=== Ddorda1 is now known as Ddorda [09:53] Just a heads up, CTCP versions & http spam have reappeared in ubuntu-ukm only one so far, but possibly a sign of more to come [10:07] DJones: The cat is on fire. [14:32] i'm here to discuss a ban made against me concerning -women, and would like to see it lifted [14:34] markie-: you will have to contact some women op [14:35] markie-: dunno if it has a ops channel if not try contactin via query [14:35] that would be hypa7ia [14:35] would -ops be good place for discussion? [14:36] Tm_T: ops is only for #ubuntu afaik [14:36] erUSUL: not true [14:36] it's for core channels [14:36] which is a bit more than just #u (: [14:37] is #ubuntu-women a core channel? [14:37] I am not sure, that's why I'm asking [14:37] how can i get in touch with hypa7ia? [14:37] !seen hypa7ia [14:37] I have no seen command [14:37] erUSUL: I have not seen hypa7ia. [14:38] one moment. [14:38] why uBOTu-fr is here? [14:38] Tm_T: all the bots are here [14:38] oh, then it shouldn't talk the same time with ubottu, I'd say (: [14:39] Tm_T: Many of them use -irc as their relay channel for ! ops messages. [14:39] aye [14:39] I have no issues those being here, just not multiple bots answering same call [14:39] ♥ [14:40] pleia2: do you happen to be awake/present/available? [14:40] markie-: there have been several complaints that you made people uncomfortable there, and reports that you ban evaded to get around the ban [14:40] ♥ ♥ ♥ [14:40] * hypa7ia is here too, and supports keeping the ban [14:40] I am not comfortable removing it at this time [14:41] do you know when you will be comfortable about removing it? [14:42] when you show any indication of doing useful work to get women involved in the ubuntu project, rather than just being a troll. [14:42] markie-: you've been banned and kicked from multiple channels *recently* - perhaps when you learn to behave in a manner that is more acceptable to the wider ubuntu community we can give you a chance in #ubuntu-women again too [14:43] seems reasonable to me, pleia2 [14:44] yes [14:48] hypa7ia, pleia2: thanks for looking at this :) [14:48] welcome :) [14:48] no problemo, Pici :) [14:48] i have helped women to get involved in the ubuntu community [14:49] Tm_T called the ops in #ubuntu-locoteams () [14:49] markie-: that doesn't matter if you don't behave in IRC-channels [14:50] pleia2: are you a op too? [14:51] heads up, there's spambots doing a round again [14:51] markie-: I'm the channel founder [14:51] Myrtti: ty [14:52] and pici is? [14:53] markie-: I wonder why you ask this [14:53] markie-: Pici is an Ubuntu operator and I have a seat on the IRC Council. [14:54] alright, yea that's fine, i just get confused with which op i have to speak to thesedays [14:55] markie-: I'm not involved in this matter (yet), just was trying to get the people who were involved to take a look. [14:55] would it help if i bring a woman in to tell you how i help her with ubuntu all the time? [14:56] markie-: no, as long as you cannot behave in IRC-channels [14:56] Tm_T: who are you again? [14:56] Tm_T: pm? [14:56] Pici: sure [14:56] markie-: the ubuntu women project is about encouraging women in general to contribute, you have shown thus far to make many of the members of our channel uncomfortable [14:56] one woman saying you helped her won't change this [14:57] my comment stands [14:57] what if i bring two in? [14:57] I am not going to play this game with you, please stop [14:58] it's not a game, i do actaully help people, despite the fact i have a fairly bad rep [14:58] which i'm _trying_ to clean up, hence me being here [14:58] the problem is your "fairly bad rep" - it hurts our channel, makes us uncomfortable and causes women to leave [14:59] if you do learn to clean up, you're welcome to come back and ask again, but I see no evidence of this in the past week [14:59] it's been quite awhile since that ban [14:59] and it's been only a few days since the latest report of your poor behavior in the community [15:00] yea but there are different types of poor bahavior, some of which are not related [15:01] * hypa7ia is rapidly locing interest in this discussion [15:01] *losing [15:01] yeah, I've said what I'm going to say [15:01] markie-: I do hope you learn to improve your behavior, for yourself and the community [15:02] true, me too. and that's what i've set out to do [15:02] today [15:02] well, over the past few days [15:02] making a clean start, trying to clean up the image of -cym aswell [15:03] markie-: why don't you work on that for a while and then ask again in say two months? [15:03] as a show of good faith, don't bother us until then. [15:04] two months, really? what about one? [15:04] and yes i'm actually serious about this [15:04] markie-: two months. it's going to take some time to undo the harm you've done. [15:05] two months it is then [15:06] much appreciated. we'll touch base then, ok? [15:06] yep [15:07] it was nice speaking to you all, have a very wonderful day [15:07] good stuff, you too. [15:07] :) [15:09] it goes pretty much unsaid that bans elsewhere reset that 2 month marker [15:09] i think [15:10] who knows (: [15:10] anywhoo, back to vegging out :) === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:39] so what is the deal with these repeated CTCP VERSION messages in a bunch of channels. Pigeon give me annoying popups for them "no such nick or channel". Is it just spam? probing for security vulnerabilities? Anything I should worry about (I'm on hardy, should be patched up-to-date) Are folks that do that quickly automatically booted by freenode? By the channel? [15:39] s/give/gives [15:39] spam, they are booted, currently several channels are either +r, +R or both [15:39] nealmcb: http://blog.freenode.net/2010/01/javascript-spam/ [15:43] Myrtti, jpds - Thanks! [16:15] FYI, #mer got just hit [17:08] nixternal called the ops in #ubuntu-locoteams () [19:40] m4v, erUSUL: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/guadalinex/+bug/513915 [19:40] Ubuntu bug 513915 in guadalinex "IRC Clients join Ubuntu channels by default" [Undecided,New] [19:40] m4v, erUSUL: "This bug affects me too". [19:43] to be fair it affects #ubuntu channels. #ubuntu ops are more affected then me ;) [19:43] anyway; +1 from me [22:11] erUSUL: We do get some users in #ubuntu-es asking for support, I wonder how different is that distro from Ubuntu [22:13] should we try to help them, or just plainly direct them to #guadalinex? [22:49] m4v, what does #guadalinex look like? are there enough helpers, or would it be full of newbies if you directed everyone there? [22:50] need to consider the support too. some basic things are probably similar enough [22:50] ideally they should have a sustainable support channel of course, but who knows [22:59] their channel seems empty [23:01] and maybe abandoned, freenode-staff is the founder.. [23:06] if guadalinex is just a rebranded Ubuntu then I wouldn't mind getting them in #ubuntu-es, maybe we can even win a regular helper [23:10] well if we're lucky, it's not that different [23:11] i don't know guadalinex very well, but i'm inclined to assume that it just has a slightly different default set of applications, and localization [23:11] i might be horribly wrong just as well [23:15] also, not all of them are likely to be newbies at all