[00:36] <_marx_> just a quick thought on UUD...if we do pull off a 24 hour schedule I believe that would be a first [00:37] _marx_: #ubuntu-classroom-backstage [00:37] <_marx_> Pendulum, roger that [00:59] pleia2: Upoading FINALLY my video on ground control [00:59] doctormo: yay! [00:59] pleia2: It's going to take 3 hours to upload :-D [01:00] hehe [01:00] how long is it? [01:03] pleia2: 9:42 [01:03] cool [01:03] It's gone down now to 35 mins to upload [01:04] so, I'm going to take one of your sysadmin classes and put it into moodle [01:04] any recommendations as to which? [01:04] I do stammer and statter my way through the entire thing though, and nautilus does crash (I paused the recording and plowed on through though) but otherwise it's a half decent look at what it does. [01:04] Now I need testers [01:04] To install it and try it out, do videos themselves etc etc [01:05] pleia2: The command line class should work, although I thought you were going to put on class into bzr first. [01:05] we still don't have finished docs for that [01:05] moodle is something I can do nowish [01:08] pleia2: What could be good is if you use the pdf export of the odf and then link that into the moodle course, that way all the extras that are required by moodle will get done and there won't be much duplication. [01:08] hmm, maybe pdf to html? [01:08] Any rewriting can go back into the odf and then hopefully we won't have diverging versions. [01:09] I know moodle is very happy with html [01:09] pleia2: I thought moodle would just eat up a pdf? any format that it needs, yes. [01:09] well, I think the preferred format for it is html [01:09] so we get the stuff into html, then we dump it into moodle [01:12] pleia2: The odf should export to html, so long as it's the odf that gets the changes, unless you want to commit the html into bzr. [01:12] oh ok [01:12] no html in bzr, I just need to get html from the asciidoc somehow [01:13] pleia2: It does that already, you just run the compile. [01:13] ooh it still does, neat [01:15] pleia2: Would you like me to get the command line section into asciidoc as a priority so you can html it? [01:15] doctormo: maybe I should do that [01:15] then I will feel the whole process [01:18] I only wish dinda was still around so she could give ground control a go. [01:18] Who else had problems with the cli for the commit workflow? [01:21] I don't know that anyone was really trying it :) [01:26] oh just a suggestion. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/UbuntuDesktopTopics could use a section on the diffrent Desktops ( Gnome,KDE,XFCE,LXDE ) [01:26] IdleOne: feel free to go ahead and add it :) [01:27] pleia2: http://blip.tv/file/get/Doctormo-GroundControlDemonstrationV106400.ogv <- can you see that? [01:27] yay it's doctormo in his hat! :) [01:27] yes [01:28] great [01:29] pleia2: added [01:30] thanks IdleOne! [01:30] * pleia2 watches [01:32] yay that's me! [01:32] hehe [01:32] huh? [01:32] watching doctormo's video about ground control [01:32] oh [01:33] Love the hat [01:33] I have a big head, hats look wierd on me lol [01:38] hrm, the video kinda dies for me at 8:12 [01:38] pleia2: Testing now [01:39] it freezes [01:39] and it's like that to the end [01:40] Maybe the FLV will be better [01:43] froze for me around 4:10 [01:46] maybe we can just blame flash sucking [01:46] fine with me [01:47] btw 3:14 is when it froze [01:47] pleia2: It's not flash is it, it's ogv [01:48] http://blip.tv/file/3141629 <- play it now from the flash player [01:48] oh, right [01:50] http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/ground-control-demonstration/ [01:52] * pleia2 can see the end now [01:55] pleia2: So what do you think? [01:57] I'm excited! ground control looks great :) [01:57] might even make the trek over to my desktop to install it and give it a spin [01:59] pleia2: That sounds great [02:00] * pleia2 does so [02:16] * pleia2 makes a mess [02:17] my brain still needs help with DVCS workflow [02:18] doctormo: have a couple minutes? [02:18] pleia2: sure [02:18] ok, so once upon a time back in 2009, I created my branch [02:19] which is horrible and outdated now - how do I... um, "svn up" to make it grab all the changes from the trunk? [02:20] pleia2: create a new branch, delete the old one... I don't have a good solution for merging back into another branch yet. [02:20] pleia2: Possibly a good candidate for a bug report [02:20] ok, but what about in general? [02:20] even from the command line is fine [02:21] nigel and I are hacking away at a course together, he merges his changes, I want to pull them into my branch so I can edit a typo [02:21] pointing me to documentation on this is an acceptable response :) [02:25] * pleia2 wanders around some bzr documentation [02:25] pleia2: Ah sorry [02:25] pleia2: bzr merge lp:foo/blah/d [02:26] pleia2: Although the best way is to pull his branch, fix the error and merge request back to him... althought he overhead is quite high for a spelling error. [02:26] ERROR: Branches have no common ancestor [02:26] * pleia2 chuckles [02:26] well, mine IS quite old! [02:27] ok, maybe my old one dies tonight and I just back up the odt files elsewhere [02:29] what is this "name" of the branch supposed to represent? [02:38] pleia2: It's a unique name which gets used for the directory name and the push location name. [02:39] pleia2: Your the only person so far to have given it a try though, not a peep out of anyone else. === doctormo is now known as h === h is now known as Guest91976 === Guest91976 is now known as doctormo [02:41] ok, another stupid question [02:42] nevermind, I figured this one out :) [02:42] it's great how writing out a question sometimes makes your brain start working [02:42] heh [02:46] is there a way to make groundcontrol/nautilus forget your lp credentials? [02:46] I think I have a bug, but I'd rather make sure I can duplicate it before submitting :) [02:48] pleia2: Sure, go to Applications > Accessories > Launchpad Account Configuration [02:48] logoff! excellent [02:49] yep, it freezes at "looking up secure shell keys" [02:49] so I never get to see my pretty face [02:50] but it does actually log me in [03:06] there you go doctormo, two bug reports :) [03:06] do I get a cookie? [03:40] * doctormo gives pleia2 one of his chinese fortune cookies he just got [03:41] ty [03:41] Can you run the program via the command line and see what happens? [03:41] pleia2: `nautilus --quit; nautilus --no-desktop` [04:11] doctormo_: http://princessleia.com/temp/gc.txt [04:13] that's what pops up when I do the login [04:18] pleia2: Could you check for the existance of bzr.svg ? [04:19] doctormo_, watching Ground Control demo now. Looks nifty [04:20] doctormo_: on my system? [04:20] pleia2: yes, it seems to be saying that bzr.svg exists, but that it's a 0 length file (I think) [04:22] doctormo_: no, but I did have a bzr directory! [04:23] if you have a ~/bzr this is what happens, oops :) [04:23] pleia2: Oh, how interesting, that's the real bug then I guess. [04:24] bzr is something I created [04:25] * pleia2 has ~/git ~/svn etc for revision control [04:30] I've commited a fix [05:16] pleia2, got a question about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/AdvocateTopics [05:17] sure [05:17] I remember Saj007 had that idea for the education FG in Beginners [05:17] but was only the idea [05:18] I propose to him that i was offering to help [05:18] but also, i was going to help in making the translation [05:18] cool [05:18] meaning that if spanish people enter the channel to ask for help [05:18] oh, great [05:18] there was going to be some link to go on spansih [05:18] but it was just the idea [05:19] I think it's a good one [05:19] eventually we do want to better support translations [05:19] and i am reading it right now and wondering [05:19] with who i have that for that [05:20] i have a little more experience with loco that with other topic in ubuntu community [05:20] so currently our process for "claiming" a topic is simply editing the wiki and putting your name next to it [05:21] |o| [05:21] well i was this name Organizer: Martin Owens Drafter: None [05:21] so if you wanted to write the, say, "Organising Events" class, you edit the wiki page and put your nick next to it, saying you're working on writing it [05:21] I'm talking about down in the "Classroom Topics" part of the page [05:22] yes i am seeing it right now [05:22] so if you look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/UbuntuDesktopTopics [05:22] you will see: Ubuntu Desktop Introduction -- Log of this course outline from doctormo, pleia2 developing [05:24] doing it rught now [05:24] \o/ [05:24] i should add my name to the team also [05:24] sure [05:24] be sure to link to your wiki page or something, so if someone wants to help they can contact you :) [05:25] If you are interested, simply introduce yourself on our IRC channel (#ubuntu-learning on irc.freenode.net) or Mailing List and one of the administrators will add you to the team! [05:25] i supposed you are one of the administrator [05:25] yep [05:26] what's your lp name again? [05:26] so no need to send email :p [05:26] * pleia2 could look it up, but is lazy [05:26] https://edge.launchpad.net/~diegoturcios [05:26] added :) [05:27] so when developing courses we leverage existing documentation heavily [05:28] so be sure to use the existing wiki documentation lots (and contribute back to it if you can!) [05:28] oh and this is how our courses are divided: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/CourseLayout [05:29] eek, I need to get some sleep [05:29] pleia2, i know english but don't know the meaning of this phrase we leverage existing documentation heavily [05:29] sorry, we use a lot of existing documentation [05:29] np, I learn a new word :D [05:30] well i add my name https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/AdvocateTopics [05:30] great! [05:31] I know there is a lot of documentation on how to form the Loco Team [05:31] so I should work with it on english [05:31] and went i have a chance i will make the translation [05:32] yes, if can :) [05:32] well I am leaving [05:32] me too, need sleep [05:32] have to study calculus and wake up early to go to work [05:33] ah fun :) [05:33] sometimes i feel i am old [05:33] and only have 18 :p [05:33] * pleia2 is a decade older [05:34] hahah [05:34] thanks for making me feel REALLLY old ;) [05:34] haha sorry [05:34] ok, bedtime! [05:34] night :) [05:34] Good Night :D [12:26] mornin [15:45] doctormo, ping [15:46] ola [15:47] hello [15:47] aqui no puedes hablar español. ve a #ubuntu-es. escribe " /j #ubuntu-es " sin las comillas y dale a enter [15:47] ok [15:47] gracias [15:50] my name is paul [15:50] a you [15:50] Welcome Paul, I am IdleOne :) [15:51] nigel_nb: did you see doctormo's groundcontrol video? :) [15:51] I live in cordoba [15:52] pleia2, yep [15:52] Now I guess I have to rewrite ;) [15:52] I'd keep both [15:53] give bzr instructions, and introduce ground control [15:53] pleia2, ok. I need to talk to doctormo about it anyway soon :) [15:53] I have 12 years [15:54] Iyou [15:54] later folks, work calls :) [15:55] hola [15:55] soy [15:55] pola [15:55] djhbfinsdf [15:55] sdfksdnjkgnsf+d [15:55] g [15:55] dfgh [15:55] fdh [15:55] df [15:56] zhbsf [15:56] hx [15:56] g [15:56] ad [15:56] fgadg [15:56] pleia2, ....^^ [15:56] ad [15:56] g [15:56] ad [15:56] ER [15:56] pirata: stop [15:56] g [15:56] a [15:56] dg [15:56] adf [15:56] ah :) [15:56] later nigel_nb :) [15:56] maybe their cat was walking on the kb ;) [15:56] doctormo, will you be around 2nite? [15:57] doctormo, need your help with integrating ground control with my course :) [15:57] dinda, oh yeah, with one paw at enter key ? ;) [15:57] nigel_nb: sure [15:58] nigel_nb: heh - my cat manages to do all sorts of magic on my kb [15:58] doctormo, okay, we'll get that course done by first week of feb (determined) [15:58] dinda, hehe [15:58] she somehow managed to turn my brigtness down to 0 while I stepped away [15:58] 0_0 [15:58] thought my machine was dead when I returned! [15:58] resourceful cat [15:58] lol [15:59] when my boyfriend was visiting he kept leaving his old, dying macbook open [15:59] hey dinda! just the person I wanted to see [15:59] my siamese decided it was her favorite place to nap, and each time he'd come back it would be off [15:59] (probably overheated) [16:00] * pleia2 said "stop leaving it open!" [16:00] my had a 'cat butt proof' macbook cover made for hers to keep her kitty from sleeping there [16:00] that is my friend [16:00] hehe [16:00] haha [16:00] Our cat "Barnaby" loves the laptops as beds [16:00] * dinda goes to look for photo of said 'cat butt proof' item [16:01] acryllic kb cover - was kind of neat [16:01] dinda and nigel_nb: http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/ground-control-demonstration/ [16:01] doctormo, already saw it yday nite [16:01] right when you posted it :) [16:02] um, rather 2day morning [16:02] and bug squad got a mail about it too! everyone loves it :) [16:03] doctormo: nice! how did you make the video? [16:03] dinda: gtk-recordmydesktop + cheese [16:04] dinda: But I figured you should see the fruit of your gripe with getting involved with lp+bzr [16:04] doctormo: MagicFab was giving you props for this project :) [16:04] doctormo: :) schweet - always good to see griping helps make the world better in some cases [16:05] doctormo: can you fix the weather now, please? [16:05] dinda: Hopefully I'll get you to test it. [16:06] doctormo: if you can magically add about 10 hours to each day, then yeah I'll have time in 2011 - maybe ;) [16:06] controlling the time and the weather? dinda is hard to please! [16:06] btw- I have an intern working with on just community learning projects! [16:06] :) [16:06] wow, that's great [16:07] dinda: Maybe we can get your community learning minion to play with it. [16:07] she's not associated with canonical so I'm doing it all on my own time and we decided to help with this team [16:07] she'll be showing up next week [16:07] hooray! [16:07] Fantabydozy [16:07] her nick is: pwsquare [16:08] she has 20+ years in training development and has been running ubuntu for a few weeks now [16:08] doctormo: have time to take a look at a blog entry I'm playing with for -learning? [16:08] pleia2: sure [16:09] she's also taking Moodle course as part of her Master's degree so that will really be helpful [16:09] doctormo: link in pm [16:10] doctormo: I'll also add a bit about ground control now... [16:10] I also want to document how we're currently assigning/people signing up for doing sections, since I explain it in irc a couple times a week [16:11] dinda: That will be useful, part two of this development push is to get moodle intergration etc. [16:56] cprofitt! have you seen groundcontrol? [17:00] err.. that a person or an application? [17:00] I have heard of ground control as an app... but not seen it. [17:03] the application [17:03] http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/ground-control-demonstration/ [17:04] the one I heard of is similar to cacti from my understanding [17:04] so this appears to be same name - different thing [17:05] I think you're thinking of groundwork [17:05] perhaps... [17:05] I just started playing with cacti [17:05] ground control is a naultilus interface for bzr :) [17:05] handles checkouts, commits, merge requests [17:05] all using your launchpad account [17:06] yeah, doc talked about that [17:06] it's in testing now, looking good [17:35] ground control looks really cool [17:35] yeah, I'm excited! :) [18:19] DiegoTc: you rock! thanks for linking the resources :) [18:20] pleia2: you won me [18:20] i was going to said you that [18:20] right now [18:20] lol [18:20] pleia2: but i have a question [18:21] sure [18:21] which is the real objective of the How to spread Ubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/AdvocateTopics)] [18:22] on the wiki there is a lot of info about the topic [18:22] but what i should write about it? [18:23] * DiegoTc wonders if pleia2 understood DiegoTc [18:23] what you write is the course itself, so it can be taught by a teacher in a classroom [18:23] ohh [18:23] i understand now [18:24] this is the layout: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/CourseLayout [18:24] so, for example.... [18:24] you want to write "Forming a LoCo group" [18:24] in the "Overview" section you describe what a loco is [18:24] pleia2: is there any course finish to get an idea [18:25] in the "Demonstration" section you give the students a tour of what an existing loco looks like [18:26] in the "Practical" section you tell the students to pretend they are setting up a loco, or something [18:26] okay [18:26] I understand now [18:26] it's a bit tricky with advocate topics [18:26] we're focused on tech stuff for now, it's easy to do practical stuff with tech stuff :) [18:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/SystemAdminTopics links to some of doctormo's completed classes [18:26] so like: http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/ubuntu-system-admin-class-command-line-basics/ [18:28] okay [18:29] i will write about the topic next week [18:29] had to finish exams at college first [18:30] great :) [18:30] let us know if you have any questions, once you have a draft I can look it over for you [21:14] IdleOne: stop getting me in trouble [21:14] hehe [21:17] errr, umm, what did I do? [21:17] uh oh [21:18] She doesn't scare me, she talks tough is all :P [21:18] ok fine I'm lying [21:18] She scares the bejeezus out of me :/ [21:20] me too [21:20] I just assume it's your survey which says I forced you to join UUD [21:20] what did you do that [21:20] hehe [21:20] tho [21:20] ahh [21:20] hahahaha [21:20] lmao [21:20] see!! [21:20] hehe [21:21] I knew I shouldn't of mentioned the channel [21:21] :P [21:21] lol [21:21] two people actually mention pleia2 in their responses [21:22] just can't help tease pleia2, she handles it so well [21:22] hehe [21:22] your not in the other channel we are in together IdleOne [21:23] not kissing up or anything but you seem to have the ability to read people better then most on irc. [21:23] that's because I've been on irc for like 12 years :( [21:23] 11 here [21:23] hehe [21:24] * pleia2 is a bit of a junkie [21:24] just think in 20 years there are going to be kids twittering about IRC and we can tweet back yeah I was there when it was cool :P [21:24] I don't think it was ever cool :\ [21:24] haha [21:24] IRC is always cool ;) [21:24] yeah but they won't kow that lol [21:25] lol [21:25] know* [21:25] holy crap this is a long email [21:26] cjohnston: is there another channel I can join where I can tease pleia2 more? [21:26] hehe [21:26] #ubuntu-classroom-backstage [21:27] #ubuntu-classroom-backstage-chat #ubuntu-classroom-backstage-chat-offtopic #ubuntu-classroom-backstage-chat-offtopic-logged...WHAT'S NEXT!? [21:27] I used to have 1 network 2 channels [21:27] #ubuntu-classroom-backstage is in window number 70 [21:28] you have 70 pleia2 ? [21:28] i have 56 right now [21:28] well, if you don't count the status window... [21:28] it's not a problem until you reach 100 [21:28] I got 12. small potatoes [21:28] 45 if I dont count status [21:28] see you people are just crazy [21:29] you don't even like 75% of the people in those channels [21:29] * cjohnston goes to look at what other channels he can bug pleia2 in [21:29] lol [21:29] several networks [21:29] at home I think I have 18 channels (I'm at work so I specific to what I think are most important for me to be in during the day ;) ) [21:29] but I am in a whole bunch on freenode [21:30] clearly [21:30] hehe [21:30] * cjohnston likes, "you dont even like 75% of the people" [21:35] does that mean she doesn't like us? :( [21:35] probably [21:35] but............. [21:35] Pendulum: thats how i took it [21:35] we like her enough to compensate [21:40] that survey, that was anonymous right? [21:53] nope.. i know exactly who you are [21:54] IdleOne: don't worry he also knows where you are and what you had for lunch. he's psychic, that's all ;) [21:55] I can send a picture of myself [21:56] cjohnston: dont bother sending me your home address. [21:56] * IdleOne is psycho also [21:56] :-) [21:56] oh, psychic, hehe never mind [21:58] hehe [22:13] paultag: ping