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TakyojiHeh http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/protestors-ipad-is-nothing-more-than-a-golden-calf-of-drm.ars03:03
_diablohaha03:03
_diablothat protest is a little ridiculous. especially when apple just moved to the ePub format03:06
TakyojiApparently my desktop just froze; and is now not quit bootable03:26
TakyojiFreezes at the login screen03:26
Takyojiquite*03:26
mr_steveTakyoji: that sucks03:27
TakyojiHad issues going using gksu (to do "gksu wireshark") then went to terminal and tried "sudo wireshark" and it froze from there, with the audio I had playing the background repeating in a 1 second long segment03:27
mr_steveouch, I haven't run into anything like that in a long while now03:28
TakyojiTried to access other terminals (Alt-F#) to no avail03:28
Takyojiand at my last attempt I was able to move the mouse, selected my username, and right as I wrote the 5th character of my password, it completely froze again03:29
Takyojiright now I'm on my laptop03:29
TakyojiDoesn't seem to be any physical issues with my RAM; memtest is at 12% right now03:30
mr_steveHm. When it locked, was there any keyboard response at all? like could you get the capslock light to change?03:31
mr_steveOr the magic SysRq key?03:31
TakyojiI should try running a LiveCD, and if that fails as well, then it would be conclusive of being a hardware issue03:31
mr_steveindeed03:31
TakyojiNever tried SysRq03:32
TakyojiTried Alt+SysRq+d to no avail03:40
Takyojiotherwise this time it froze at the X-based boot screen03:40
mr_steveHeat? Cleaned yer heatsink recently? I just had that problem with my server, drove me nuts for 3 weeks before I figured it out03:41
Takyojithough I believe that would cause it to shutdown/restart rather than just freeze03:43
mr_steveMine would just lock up hard03:43
mr_steveI'd have to power cycle it myself, and each time it would take a few boots to get it running right again, since it was still cooling down03:44
mr_steveThen it'd heat up under load and do the same thing again. That's how I learned how to recover MySQL InnoDB tables :)03:45
TakyojiI have been running Folding@Home in background pretty much always; but I haven't seen the heat go up at all that much03:45
TakyojiIf only the acpi command was installed by default...03:46
mr_steveHm, well it's just a thought anyhow. Lockups are such a pain to troubleshoot. I bet it logs nothing, right?03:46
TakyojiI'm running a LiveCD right now which is acting fine03:47
TakyojiAlright; it's most likely not heat related04:22
TakyojiJust vacuumed, used canned air to blow out any dust found, and it still freezes at the same spot04:23
TakyojiCouldn't feel anything hot04:26
TakyojiI'm worrisome of it potentially being harddrive failure04:42
_diabloyup04:42
TakyojiAlthough it's only a year old harddrive (in terms of usage)04:43
_diabloTakyoji, that shouldn't happen... is it still under warranty?04:44
TakyojiShould be04:47
Takyoji3 year warranty04:49
Takyojihttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682214823004:49
_diablogood luck :(04:50
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TakyojiI want to get to the boot screen of GRUB2, but can't. I try hitting ESC to no avail21:28
TakyojiI don't dual-boot another OS on the system21:32
TakyojiOhh, I guess it's Shift you hold for GRUB221:43
TakyojiYay, Shift worked21:44
tonyyarussodarnit Takyoji - stop finding out the answers yourself before I come around to tell them to you!21:56
TakyojiWell at least SOMEONE knew the answer. :P21:56
TakyojiThink I should run fsck on my system perhaps?21:57
tonyyarussosure, why not?21:58
tonyyarussobtw, the 'touch /forcefsck' trick doesn't work on Maemo, in case anyone cares.21:58
TakyojiAlthough, would be sane to be running fsck on the filesystem the fsck binary is on?21:59
Takyoji(although I'm in recovery mode; a root prompt)21:59
tonyyarussoYou have to remount it as read-only first.  You can run fsck on the fsck binary, since it will be loaded into memory first and not matter, but running it on a mounted filesystem is A Bad Idea (TM).22:01
Takyojiand now it mystically works after all the absurd things I've tried on it22:10
TakyojiOtherwise I have some stupid ideas.22:11
TakyojiCould do a little Linux [useful] trivia on this channel for entertainment/learning.22:12
tonyyarussocould be fun22:12
TakyojiCould also have little competitions of fixing/securing a server installation (remotely)22:13
TakyojiHo-ly crap22:17
TakyojiApparently I'm cleaning out my filesystem since I only have less than a GB left22:18
TakyojiSo I run the disk usage analyzer; and it says my home folder is consuming 101GB22:18
TakyojiSo I delete some things, virtual disks, etc. and it barely goes down. I try adding the size number for all the folders in my home folder, and it doesn22:19
Takyojidoesn't add up22:19
TakyojiSo then I had it expose the hidden files in my home folder, and had it arrange by size22:19
TakyojiAnd APPARENTLY my ".xsession-errors.old" file is 76GB22:19
TakyojiThat is beyond insanity22:21
TakyojiError logs reaching GIGABYTES is madness22:21
TakyojiNow my home folder is only using 25GB22:21
kermitTakyoji: i think its the stderr from every single X app22:59
kermitTakyoji: everything you run in X, ever, stderr goes there22:59
kermitTakyoji: mplayer, outputting a line of text 30 times per second?  goes there..22:59
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Takyojioh fun23:12
TakyojiThat is just pure insanity though23:13
TakyojiI've never heard of like 76GB of human readable text.23:13
TakyojiJust because I'm stupidly curious. Would your average work perfectly fine in these Minnesota outdoor temperatures? :P23:15
* Takyoji literally envisions a server "farm" out in the cold. xP23:15
TakyojiSo. Anyone have suggestions of how I could try and convince the district to consider open source solutions for some things, rather than burning thousands of something shiny that doesn't work.23:41
TakyojiLike; any specific school-oriented projects that would also be worth noting?23:41

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