[03:03] <Takyoji> Heh http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/protestors-ipad-is-nothing-more-than-a-golden-calf-of-drm.ars
[03:03] <_diablo> haha
[03:06] <_diablo> that protest is a little ridiculous. especially when apple just moved to the ePub format
[03:26] <Takyoji> Apparently my desktop just froze; and is now not quit bootable
[03:26] <Takyoji> Freezes at the login screen
[03:26] <Takyoji> quite*
[03:27] <mr_steve> Takyoji: that sucks
[03:27] <Takyoji> Had issues going using gksu (to do "gksu wireshark") then went to terminal and tried "sudo wireshark" and it froze from there, with the audio I had playing the background repeating in a 1 second long segment
[03:28] <mr_steve> ouch, I haven't run into anything like that in a long while now
[03:28] <Takyoji> Tried to access other terminals (Alt-F#) to no avail
[03:29] <Takyoji> and at my last attempt I was able to move the mouse, selected my username, and right as I wrote the 5th character of my password, it completely froze again
[03:29] <Takyoji> right now I'm on my laptop
[03:30] <Takyoji> Doesn't seem to be any physical issues with my RAM; memtest is at 12% right now
[03:31] <mr_steve> Hm. When it locked, was there any keyboard response at all? like could you get the capslock light to change?
[03:31] <mr_steve> Or the magic SysRq key?
[03:31] <Takyoji> I should try running a LiveCD, and if that fails as well, then it would be conclusive of being a hardware issue
[03:31] <mr_steve> indeed
[03:32] <Takyoji> Never tried SysRq
[03:40] <Takyoji> Tried Alt+SysRq+d to no avail
[03:40] <Takyoji> otherwise this time it froze at the X-based boot screen
[03:41] <mr_steve> Heat? Cleaned yer heatsink recently? I just had that problem with my server, drove me nuts for 3 weeks before I figured it out
[03:43] <Takyoji> though I believe that would cause it to shutdown/restart rather than just freeze
[03:43] <mr_steve> Mine would just lock up hard
[03:44] <mr_steve> I'd have to power cycle it myself, and each time it would take a few boots to get it running right again, since it was still cooling down
[03:45] <mr_steve> Then it'd heat up under load and do the same thing again. That's how I learned how to recover MySQL InnoDB tables :)
[03:45] <Takyoji> I have been running Folding@Home in background pretty much always; but I haven't seen the heat go up at all that much
[03:46] <Takyoji> If only the acpi command was installed by default...
[03:46] <mr_steve> Hm, well it's just a thought anyhow. Lockups are such a pain to troubleshoot. I bet it logs nothing, right?
[03:47] <Takyoji> I'm running a LiveCD right now which is acting fine
[04:22] <Takyoji> Alright; it's most likely not heat related
[04:23] <Takyoji> Just vacuumed, used canned air to blow out any dust found, and it still freezes at the same spot
[04:26] <Takyoji> Couldn't feel anything hot
[04:42] <Takyoji> I'm worrisome of it potentially being harddrive failure
[04:42] <_diablo> yup
[04:43] <Takyoji> Although it's only a year old harddrive (in terms of usage)
[04:44] <_diablo> Takyoji, that shouldn't happen... is it still under warranty?
[04:47] <Takyoji> Should be
[04:49] <Takyoji> 3 year warranty
[04:49] <Takyoji> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148230
[04:50] <_diablo> good luck :(
[21:28] <Takyoji> I want to get to the boot screen of GRUB2, but can't. I try hitting ESC to no avail
[21:32] <Takyoji> I don't dual-boot another OS on the system
[21:43] <Takyoji> Ohh, I guess it's Shift you hold for GRUB2
[21:44] <Takyoji> Yay, Shift worked
[21:56] <tonyyarusso> darnit Takyoji - stop finding out the answers yourself before I come around to tell them to you!
[21:56] <Takyoji> Well at least SOMEONE knew the answer. :P
[21:57] <Takyoji> Think I should run fsck on my system perhaps?
[21:58] <tonyyarusso> sure, why not?
[21:58] <tonyyarusso> btw, the 'touch /forcefsck' trick doesn't work on Maemo, in case anyone cares.
[21:59] <Takyoji> Although, would be sane to be running fsck on the filesystem the fsck binary is on?
[21:59] <Takyoji> (although I'm in recovery mode; a root prompt)
[22:01] <tonyyarusso> You have to remount it as read-only first.  You can run fsck on the fsck binary, since it will be loaded into memory first and not matter, but running it on a mounted filesystem is A Bad Idea (TM).
[22:10] <Takyoji> and now it mystically works after all the absurd things I've tried on it
[22:11] <Takyoji> Otherwise I have some stupid ideas.
[22:12] <Takyoji> Could do a little Linux [useful] trivia on this channel for entertainment/learning.
[22:12] <tonyyarusso> could be fun
[22:13] <Takyoji> Could also have little competitions of fixing/securing a server installation (remotely)
[22:17] <Takyoji> Ho-ly crap
[22:18] <Takyoji> Apparently I'm cleaning out my filesystem since I only have less than a GB left
[22:18] <Takyoji> So I run the disk usage analyzer; and it says my home folder is consuming 101GB
[22:19] <Takyoji> So I delete some things, virtual disks, etc. and it barely goes down. I try adding the size number for all the folders in my home folder, and it doesn
[22:19] <Takyoji> doesn't add up
[22:19] <Takyoji> So then I had it expose the hidden files in my home folder, and had it arrange by size
[22:19] <Takyoji> And APPARENTLY my ".xsession-errors.old" file is 76GB
[22:21] <Takyoji> That is beyond insanity
[22:21] <Takyoji> Error logs reaching GIGABYTES is madness
[22:21] <Takyoji> Now my home folder is only using 25GB
[22:59] <kermit> Takyoji: i think its the stderr from every single X app
[22:59] <kermit> Takyoji: everything you run in X, ever, stderr goes there
[22:59] <kermit> Takyoji: mplayer, outputting a line of text 30 times per second?  goes there..
[23:12] <Takyoji> oh fun
[23:13] <Takyoji> That is just pure insanity though
[23:13] <Takyoji> I've never heard of like 76GB of human readable text.
[23:15] <Takyoji> Just because I'm stupidly curious. Would your average work perfectly fine in these Minnesota outdoor temperatures? :P
[23:15]  * Takyoji literally envisions a server "farm" out in the cold. xP
[23:41] <Takyoji> So. Anyone have suggestions of how I could try and convince the district to consider open source solutions for some things, rather than burning thousands of something shiny that doesn't work.
[23:41] <Takyoji> Like; any specific school-oriented projects that would also be worth noting?