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* JontheEchidna wonders where ScottK is00:36
JontheEchidnaWant to show him this: http://imagebin.ca/view/fUA_BCW.html00:36
Lex79JontheEchidna: yesterday evening, jr says scottk was only in #ubuntu-women channel00:38
Lex79lol00:38
JontheEchidnalol?00:39
Lex79yeah, dunno why00:39
Lex79JontheEchidna: -*- Riddell wonders why scottk is in #ubuntu-women but not in here00:40
Lex79:)00:40
JontheEchidnahmm, seems to be only in #kde-devel and #quassel according to whois00:40
JontheEchidnamaybe he's just taking a vacation from it all00:41
RiddellJontheEchidna: yes he is00:41
JontheEchidnaand that's a good thing to do from time to time00:42
JontheEchidnaRiddell: anywayz, I fix0r3d packagekit and it's now nicely sitting in binary new :)00:42
Riddellwhat needed fix0r1ng?00:43
JontheEchidnaoh, it FTBFS'd in a few places00:43
Riddellfooey.  thakns00:45
JontheEchidnano prob00:46
neversfeldeha, Lex79, JontheEchidna and Riddell, I need your help :)01:01
neversfeldehow do I skip dh_auto_test for debehlper in debian/rules01:01
neversfeldethe manpage recommends to skip it, if it fails01:02
JontheEchidnamaybe do an override on that and set it to do nothing?01:05
neversfeldeJontheEchidna: how can I do this?01:06
JontheEchidnaI think you do something similar in your minitube package with a few other dh things01:06
JontheEchidnafor example:01:06
JontheEchidnaoverride_dh_auto_configure:01:07
JontheEchidna        qmake-qt4 PREFIX=/usr01:07
JontheEchidnamaybe try override_dh_auto_test:, but with nothing on the next line01:07
neversfeldeyes, but how do I disable it completely01:07
neversfeldeI'll try01:07
JontheEchidnaI dunno if that's the proper way, or even if it'll work01:08
JontheEchidnaworth a shot though I guess01:08
Lex79neversfelde: I found this http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/aqbanking/libgwenhywfar/trunk/debian/rules01:10
Lex79maybe dh build --after dh_auto_test01:10
neversfeldeLex79: thanks I will try it01:12
neversfeldebtw what are we doing with kmymoney in lucid?01:13
JontheEchidnaimo it'd probably be best to wait for a stable release before updating it to the KDE4 version01:13
neversfeldek01:14
neversfeldeit is a LTS release, so probably best01:14
neversfeldeon the other hand, we have to support it for 3 years, so KDE3 releases are a little bit outdated 201301:16
Lex79it's not a problem since the world will finish in 21/12/2012 lol01:20
neversfelderofl01:21
JontheEchidnaNot unless Juliet has ended it next Tuesday :D01:21
Lex79btw for me the world finish with the last episode of Lost, when I will know the answer of "What lies in the shadow of the statue?"01:23
Lex79:)01:23
neversfeldeLex79: I like Lost, too. But it got a little bit confusing. I think I have to watch al episodes again01:25
Lex79yes, that's help01:25
Lex79http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_of_the_statue01:25
JontheEchidnaI'll just have to sit down one summer and watch them all01:27
Lex79JontheEchidna: yes, I will do after the final season :) hope I can buy all seasons in blue ray, but I think it's much cost01:28
Lex79*much expensive01:29
Lex79:)01:29
JontheEchidnamy mom bought the DVD for each series each year they came out (she's a fan too)01:29
Lex79uh great :)01:29
neversfeldeJontheEchidna: a blank line after it helps, thanks01:29
JontheEchidnaneat01:29
Lex79I think  dh build --after dh_auto_test it's for old debhelper01:30
Lex79but dunno exactly01:30
neversfeldeso I have a working basket 2.0 package. I am going to ask upstream, if they want us to ship the new or the old version, now01:45
nixternalwhy do people insist on blaming everyone but themselves for not succeeding? why do people insist on staying inside the Linux/free software/open source bubble? Why? Why? Why?01:45
neversfeldenixternal: you mean your blog post about Yahoo?01:48
nixternalnot only that, but also stuff from the past...I have been quiet on all of it, piecing it all together01:49
neversfeldemhh, I agree on 100% regarding your post, I commented that, but it seems to be gone01:50
nixternalspammer :p01:50
* nixternal checks the filters01:51
neversfeldehehe01:51
nixternalok, it should be there now...you were marked as a spammer01:51
neversfeldetime to sleep gn801:51
nixternalg'nite dude01:52
nixternalor spammer01:52
JontheEchidnacould a core-dev retry the kpackagekit builds please?02:02
jjessehaving fun nixternal?02:04
nixternaloh yes02:05
nixternalJontheEchidna: link me sweetheart02:05
JontheEchidnanixternal: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpackagekit/0.5.4-0ubuntu1 Don't bother with ia64 or sparc yet, the build-deps aren't there.02:06
JontheEchidnabut the new packagekit is published at least on i386, so it should build02:06
nixternalI want to break choqok over my knee02:07
nixternalis there a freakin' twitter/identi.ca app that doesn't crash everytime I post something?02:07
nixternalJontheEchidna: powerpc is good to go?02:08
nixternaldoesn't matter, all but ia64 and sparc have been done :)02:08
JontheEchidna\o/02:09
nixternalok, I need to eat, I am about to die I think02:09
JontheEchidnaClosing 9 bugs in one upload is satisfying :)03:47
JontheEchidnanot as epic as crimsun's PA upload though03:47
shtylmanRiddell maco: sorry to hear about the chaos. Yea, I know about that bug. Its a long standing one that I have been unable to fix without breaking other things. Hopefully inspiration will come to me one day and I will resolve it... :/03:54
macoshtylman: the person claims that it works properly in openSUSE and Arch04:48
shtylmanmaco: I doubt that cause the same bug is in the bugzilla for go-oo/openoffice04:59
macoheh alrighty04:59
shtylman:)04:59
nixternalfyi, I got ScottK back...i tried to not do threats, but i had no choice...he will be happy that I am allowing him to keep his walker06:06
ScottKJust so I'll have something to beat you with.06:07
nixternalto heavy for your old ass to pick up :p06:07
apacheloggersalut mes amis!07:20
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: kdeutils all triaged out, fixed a bug in printer-applet on the way08:13
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JontheEchidnaapachelogger: neato12:03
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: the bug was super ludicrous though ;)12:03
apacheloggerKMessageBox.warning()12:04
* JontheEchidna has to look through the bugmail now ;)12:06
ghostcubeo{}o12:09
jussi01JontheEchidna: have fun with my bug reports from last night :)12:18
JontheEchidnajussi01: which one is that?12:20
jussi01JontheEchidna: bug 513912 Im guessing is the one youll be interested in:12:21
ubottuBug 513912 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/513912 is private12:21
QuintasanWTF is with those CTCP requests coming from different channels?12:24
jussi01Quintasan: evilness.. hoping they are fixed with the new ircd tomorrow12:24
QuintasanHow do I request a sync from Debian?12:26
JontheEchidnawith requestsync :P12:26
JontheEchidnagotta go, no time to not be cheeky12:26
Quintasan:P12:27
jussi01!sync | Quintasan12:28
ubottuQuintasan: Helpful information for filing a sync request can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess12:28
Quintasanjussi01: nvm, I forgot I'm running karmic :P12:28
ghostcubeQuintasan you can try an +C mode for your nick if single requests or the ops woukld need an +R for this channel but sux a bit12:29
Quintasan+C does what?12:30
Quintasanhmm look like I will team up with Johnatan on bug tiriaging12:32
Quintasan:/12:43
Quintasanbug #513435 <--- how should I deal with this? file a bug on kde bugzilla or it's probably a problem with our packages?12:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 513435 in kdebase "kmenuedit makes app. icons disappear after move" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51343512:44
QuintasanI am able to reproduce on both Karmic and Lucid 4.3.95 packages12:44
ryanakca\sh: Offtopic, but, what happened to Leonov?12:55
\shryanakca: it's not dead...I'm lacking time right now for this project...but this will change in the next couple of weeks/months12:58
ryanakca\sh: ah, ok12:59
\shif I had money, I would pay people to do implementations of my software ideas...;)13:00
jussi01ryanakca: no13:05
jussi01ryanakca: re -ops13:05
ryanakcajussi01: ok13:10
ghostcubeQuintasan +C stops direct ctcp to you not through channels13:17
ghostcube:)13:17
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ScottKSetting CTCP ignore rule on your Quassel also stops it.13:39
seeletxwikinger: ping13:40
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Riddelltxwikinger: ping14:00
txwikingerRiddell: pon14:32
txwikingerRiddell: pong14:32
txwikingerseele: pong14:32
geniiDoes bugs.kde.org use same login as LP?14:52
shadeslayergenii: nope14:52
shadeslayergenii: unfourtunately, bugs.kde.org , techbase and userbase all have different login methods... i have 3 accounts myself :(14:53
ScottKPut slightly differently, fortunately bugs.kde.org does not use the man-in-the-middle protocol.14:55
shadeslayerhehe...14:55
shadeslayeryou could say that :)14:56
* ScottK always thought it was odd people liked a protocol which had as it's fundamental design principle a security attack.14:58
* apachelogger is tha uber perl haxx0r14:59
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apacheloggerScottK: btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/karmic-backports/+bug/51332915:17
ubottuUbuntu bug 513329 in karmic-backports "Please backport kmess 2.0.2" [Undecided,New]15:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: :D15:18
apacheloggerScottK: do you still have a KDE 3 setup around?15:18
shadeslayerill brb..15:18
apacheloggerScottK: oh and while we are at it https://bugs.launchpad.net/karmic-backports/+bug/513825 :D15:18
ubottuUbuntu bug 513825 in karmic-backports "Please backport kopete-facebook" [Undecided,New]15:18
ScottKapachelogger: No.  You shoud have asked last month.  I still had a Dapper box then.15:19
apacheloggeroh well, I suppose I'll just download dapper and vbox it15:19
apacheloggerdoes one even get that thing for download still :D15:19
Tm_Tapachelogger: 8.04.4 ?15:20
Tm_Tor what it was15:21
ScottKapachelogger: Yeah, you'd want Hardy.15:21
apacheloggerTm_T: 6.0615:21
ScottKTm_T: Actually 8.04.2 was the last update for Kubuntu.15:21
apacheloggerScottK: one could still get dapper from oldreleases.u.c :D15:21
ScottKapachelogger: First one approved, second one needs more info15:22
Tm_TScottK: ah, true, .4 is only Ubuntu15:22
ScottKapachelogger: I'm not sure if they moved the images or not.15:22
apachelogger*shrug*15:22
apacheloggerdownloading hardy now15:22
apacheloggerRiddell: please backport kmess 2.0.2-1 to karmic as per bug 51332915:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 513329 in karmic-backports "Please backport kmess 2.0.2" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51332915:23
apacheloggerScottK: thanks for the quick response :)15:24
dholbachhiya15:43
dholbachif seele turns up later on, can somebody tell her to show up in #ubuntu-classroom? thanks :)15:43
ScottKWe can ask.15:44
dholbachsuper, thanks15:44
seeletxwikinger: ping15:46
txwikingerseele: pong15:46
dholbachhiya seele!15:46
txwikingerhi dholbach15:46
dholbachhey txwikinger15:46
seeledholbach: yo15:46
dholbachhow are you all doing?15:46
txwikingernot very well15:46
dholbachseele: if you can show up in #ubuntu-classroom I can op you there so you can speak later on15:46
dholbachtxwikinger: still busy with the lawyers and everything?15:47
txwikingeryes15:47
dholbachthat sucks :-(15:47
dholbachseele: muchas gracias!15:47
txwikingeryeah.. in particula because the other site cannot even abide by court orders15:47
dholbachurgh15:47
seeledholbach: 3 hours right? want to make sure i get the time zone conversion correct :P15:47
* txwikinger thinks he is on the verge of a heart attack15:48
apacheloggerseele: set your kde clock to alternate between local and UTC upon scrolling :P15:48
seeleapachelogger: i can do that?15:48
apacheloggersure15:48
dholbachseele: sounds about right15:48
dholbachdate; date -u   should give you the answer to15:48
apacheloggerright click -> settings -> timeszones -> select utc15:48
apacheloggerthen when you scroll on your clock you swtich between local and utc15:49
txwikingeryou can move over it and use the mouse wheel15:49
apacheloggeror any other selected timezone15:49
seeleapachelogger: oooh ho ho sweet15:49
apacheloggerdholbach: you know, in the KDE world we barely pay the terminal a visit :P15:56
dholbachapachelogger: that explains the quality of packages15:57
dholbachapachelogger: just kidding ;-)15:57
apacheloggerunless of course there is a terminal widget on the desktop where one can run a make on the Qt source, so one looks super busy ;)15:57
apacheloggerweeh, vbox crash16:00
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apacheloggerone of the few things I like about KDE 3: the login sound we had was very smooth16:02
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geniiHow to show Qt4 version?17:48
Lex79moc-qt4 -v17:50
nixternalqmake --version17:50
Lex79apt-cache policy libqt4-core17:50
nixternallol17:50
nixternaldpkg -l libqt4-dev17:50
nixternaldpkg -l libqt4\* | grep \^ii17:50
Lex79others way?17:50
nixternal;)17:50
Lex79lol17:50
geniiLex79: the apt-cache shows no version installed for -core or -gui17:50
nixternalqmake --version works well17:51
nixternal<<< nixternal@ShakaDoobie :: ~ :: 11:49.44 Fri Jan 29 201017:51
nixternal>>> [1008] qmake --version17:51
nixternalQMake version 2.01a17:51
nixternalUsing Qt version 4.6.0 in /usr/lib17:51
geniiHm. apparently i have no Qt installed17:51
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nixternali love how i never get these ctcp spams on oftc18:20
ScottKAlmost never get netsplits either.18:20
crimsunthen again, oftc doesn't seem to be as significant a target18:21
ScottKCould be.18:21
nixternalcrimsun: that is because they are ran a little cleaner...maybe not as big as freenode, but they never have been controlled by people who shouldn't have been in control in the first place18:22
nixternalthis all started in 2005 with lilo and it hasn't gone away since then18:22
crimsunnixternal: I don't doubt that there is an eighth layer involved, but scalability has always been an issue (even back in my dalnet/undernet/efnet days)18:23
nixternalefnet, man i used to be a huge troll on there18:23
nixternalwe used to go in and bomb all political channels, all racist channels, all windows channels...it was so fun back then18:24
Quintasanhiho18:42
daskreechHello18:44
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macoi feel like i'm talking to the wall in -classroom19:13
nixternalyou are :)19:13
Quintasanwell, I'm there at least :P19:15
ScottKKubuntu?  What is this "K" you spea of?19:15
ScottKspea/speak19:15
macoQuintasan: *flailing*19:29
macoQuintasan: i wish Riddell was online :(19:41
macoor nixternal19:41
macono not him19:41
macoNightrose:19:41
Quintasan:DD19:41
ScottKmaco: If you need me to make up an answer to something, let me know.19:41
Mamarokmaco: btw most of the KDE projects have channels on Freenode, too, so if questions arise in JJ, they can ask in the channels or in #kde-devel19:53
macopeople in #kde-devel will likely direct them to the right place though, i think19:53
MamarokI guess so, yes, devel is just sometimes very quite, especially during nighttime in Europe19:53
Mamarokelse #kde is an alternative19:54
Mamarokalso, Qt/C++ allows to do shorter code, the Qt framework is very powerful19:56
macoheheh20:00
macopleia2 is all amused that seele passed it off to me and i got help from Nightrose20:01
macosomeone in -chat asked if women like C++20:01
Nightrosewell i definitely like it more than C20:02
Nightrose:D20:02
macoi dont know C++20:03
macoC is soooo much better with GLib than on its own though20:03
Quintasanwell, time to get that icon bug reported20:03
macooh blah. my list of things to learn this weekend is horribly long: algebra, trig, calculus, physics, pykde20:04
Quintasan@_@20:04
ScottKRight, rework the sequence20:04
macowell i'm taking calc-based physics this semester. i learned calculus 5yr ago, trig 6yr ago, and algebra never20:05
macoand i have to have a slightly working demo of my sign language program by 10 feb, and thats happening in pykde20:05
Quintasanhow do I add link to this same bug tracked in KDE's bugzilla in LP?20:27
QuintasanI can't find that option :/20:27
ScottKalso affects project20:28
geniiHm. When apport itself is crashing, what to do?20:37
QuintasanScottK: urgh, what I'm supposed to put there? KDE doesn't work and the project search yields http://www.kde.org which doesnt' work too20:37
ScottKQuintasan: Source pacakge name.20:37
ScottKIf that doesn't work, just feed it the url of the bug.  IIRC there's a spot for that.20:37
QuintasanScottK: thanks :)20:38
wind-riderhi20:40
wind-ridertoday or yesterday the soprano-daemon package was changed to recommend the virtuoso-server20:41
wind-riderthis was done to 'fix' https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/50565320:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 505653 in soprano "make soprano depending on virtuoso-opensource" [Undecided,Fix released]20:41
wind-riderbut i think it is not fixed by only recommending - it should be made depending because KDE will complain about it until virtuoso is installed20:42
ScottKVirtuoso is optional for soprano.20:42
ScottKFor KDE 4.4, IIRC, the only KDE component that requires it is kmail.20:43
ScottKkmail/kdepim20:43
macothere's a new kmail coming right?20:43
macohmm i should upgrade so i can play with it!20:43
wind-riderScottK: Strigi also complains about it20:43
macowait... hrm... will kdepim lose my calendar and contacts if i upgrade? *suspicious*20:43
wind-riderScottK: Nepomuk depends on it20:44
wind-riderScottK: and akonadi depends on nepomuk for part of its functionality20:44
ScottKwind-rider: Yes and the only part of KDE 4.4 that it's needed for is the akonadi/kdepim stuff.20:44
ScottKHaving it required for soprano would be wrong.20:44
QuintasanJontheEchidna: \o20:45
wind-riderScottK: no, Strigi requires it too20:45
ScottKOK.  That's still not soprano20:45
Mamarokmaco: not unlikely, you should export those20:45
wind-riderScottK: every time I boot my laptop KDE complains about not having virtuoso20:45
macomeep!20:45
ScottKIt may be that there should be some other component with a depends relationship, but not soprano.20:45
Lex79ScottK: soprano is build to depends on virtuoso. Soprano needs virtuoso backend to work20:45
Mamarokand the kaddressbook in the new KDEpim is a bit... strange20:45
macoMamarok: i hope by release time there will be some conversion thingy so it doesnt get lost for everyone who upgrades?20:46
ScottKLex79: It does?20:46
wind-riderScottK: what would you propose, then?20:46
wind-riderScottK: I would say soprano as virtuoso is a backend of soprano20:46
* maco looks for screenshots20:46
ScottKI would propose Lex79 figure it out since he seems to understand it better than me.20:46
Lex79ScottK: if virtuoso is recommends, this means is on the CD ?20:47
macoMamarok: why does it look like Outlook/Evolution? :( http://userbase.kde.org/File:Kontact_presentation_small.jpg20:47
ScottKLex79: Yes.20:47
wind-riderLex79, ScottK: why is it only 'recommending' it, then20:48
Mamarokmaco: it always did, long before there was Evolution20:48
Lex79wind-rider: we need to investigate a bit20:48
ScottKSo it can be removed if you don't want it.20:48
wind-riderit will only annoy the user if it is not there20:48
Mamarokmaco: and that's how PIM software looks :)20:48
wind-ridersoprano is useless without it20:48
macoMamarok: but that calendar now looks much more evolution-y with that sidebar thingy20:49
* ScottK goes out on a limb and predicts it's changeable.20:49
wind-riderLex79: what does the choice depend on?20:50
QuintasanScottK: hmm my friend is working on liblo and he filled a sync request, synces are made automatically or we have to do it by hand?20:50
Mamarokmaco: there has been a sidebar before20:50
* Quintasan can't find policy on syncing20:51
macoMamarok: the bit with the todos and such? i never saw that before...do you mean in the kde3 version or something?20:51
Lex79wind-rider: maybe it's right that soprano depends on virtuoso, but we need to investigate before, ok?20:51
wind-riderLex79: sure20:52
Lex79wind-rider: we have time to do that :)20:52
Lex79it's an easy change to do, if it needs20:52
Mamarokmaco: I don't recall exactly, but there was a sidebar, maybe just not in all elements20:52
wind-riderLex79: I was only wondering why it was chosen the way it is now - and if looks obvious to have it depending, why not?20:52
Mamarokremember*20:52
Lex79wind-rider: that changes is made by Riddell, maybe just forgot to do that20:54
wind-riderLex79: ok, i'll add something to the bug report20:54
Lex79ok thanks20:54
QuintasanScottK: urgh nvm, I found something20:55
Quintasangosh this is though, can anyone clear something for me? I'm trying to do a sync, I file a bug at Launchpad, I have downloaded the source from Debian Experimental and confirmed it builds in Ubuntu, shall I mark it on LP and subscribe ubuntu-archive?21:08
Quintasantough*21:08
QuintasanDAMN IT21:16
Quintasanwhy the hell they had to break heating once again21:16
nixternalheh, my niece took a pic of me and told me to pose, so I did...I don't smile for pics I don't think and I don't know why21:24
JontheEchidnacould a core-dev sponsor bug 508073?21:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 508073 in acpid "pressing power button in kde shuts down computer immediately" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50807321:27
* ScottK looks21:39
JontheEchidnathanks21:45
JontheEchidnaScottK: I also wanted to show you this: http://imagebin.ca/view/fUA_BCW.html21:45
ScottKJontheEchidna: Nice.  I saw that bugmail yesterday.  Very important improvement.21:47
nixternalwtf does choqok crash 99.9% of the time after sending an update?21:48
jjesse-netbookno idea, i use the web pages more and more21:48
jjesse-netbookas it is a big piece of #%#%21:48
nixternalyes, yes it is21:49
nixternalgonna switch to gwibber I think21:49
JontheEchidnacould be qt 4.6 crappiness, if this sort of thing didn't happen in 9.1021:49
nixternalit happens in everything21:50
nixternal9.10, 10.10, 9.04, keep going21:50
nixternalopenSUSE, Fedora, Arch, Debian, and Kubuntu21:50
nixternalit is like jjesse-netbook said, a big steaming pile of #%#%21:50
nixternalwe got this little box thing right that does TV ratings, so I researched it a bit...blown away by the US' tv ratings21:51
nixternalSara "I'm a dumb ass" Palin drew in more people for her debut on Fox News, than the Vikings and the State of the Union did...that is just insane...I want to cheat this box though, and make Playboy #121:52
neversfeldea happy Kubuntu user and dev http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube-is-in-ubuntu-repositories :)21:52
jjesse-netbooki thought playboy was your #1 channel21:53
jjesse-netbookor skinamax21:53
Quintasanlol21:53
ScottKJontheEchidna: slangasek is going to sponsor it.22:14
QuintasanScottK and JontheEchidna: got a second?22:22
Sputhmmm, my chokoq works fine22:26
macoswap your q and k22:26
Sputyeah, I tend to misspell that22:26
macochoqok works fine for me, mostly22:26
macoit crashes maybe once every couple days22:26
Sputanyway, I'm using development versions of everything, so whatever was buggy, it seems to be fixed meanwhile :)22:26
macowhich is about how often quassel crashes...22:27
Quintasanurgh22:31
QuintasanScottK, JontheEchidna or maco: mind checking http://pastebin.com/f523a1621 for any errors?22:31
macoQuintasan: did you intentionally lose all that documentation?22:32
Quintasanmaco: it's a diff from debian probably22:33
Quintasangrr22:33
Quintasanthis is giving me a headache22:33
Quintasanyes22:33
Quintasanthis doc/ is dropped in debian and doc/html comes instead22:34
macook22:35
macoyeah reading merge diffs is like *stabby*22:35
macosure, ooks fine to me22:35
maco*looks22:35
macodoes it build? ;-)22:36
crimsunoh no, not /that/ package22:36
crimsunupstream already has official python bindings22:36
crimsunalso, if the debdiff corrects the capitalisation of "API", why doesn't it correct the semantics in the summary? It's "Python bindings for ALSA".22:37
macoso youre saying "package unnecessary! EXTERMINATE!" ?22:37
crimsunit needs to die already, yes.22:37
maco(it's "be exterminated" not "die" where's the dalek in you?)22:37
crimsunno, I don't care to actively exterminate it22:37
crimsunI just want it to go away.  Big difference.22:38
macointo the void?22:38
Quintasanurgh22:39
Quintasanwhat the hell I'm doing22:39
Quintasancrimsun: mind clearing this? I don't know how to exacly deal with it22:39
ari-tczewso pyalsaaudio have to remove from archive?22:40
Quintasancrimsun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyalsaaudio/+bug/51445322:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 514453 in pyalsaaudio "Merge pyalsaaudio 0.5+svn36-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,In progress]22:41
Quintasancrimsun: shall I mark it as invalid and file a archive removal request?22:41
crimsunQuintasan: no, you shouldn't file such a request. It's legitimate FOSS, but my opinion (and upstream's) is that it is deprecated in favor of the official bindings.22:43
Quintasancrimsun: anything against updating it?22:44
* Quintasan is seriously confused now22:44
Riddellmaco: how was the talk?22:46
crimsunQuintasan: I have absolutely nothing against updating it as an Ubuntu maintainer.22:47
crimsunQuintasan: from an upstream developer point of view, I don't like it.22:47
Quintasancrimsun: okay, but I think you should consider asking for removal if it's deprecated22:48
crimsunQuintasan: I'll look at the bug report in 20 minutes, but I don't plan to merge it myself unless you're specifically requesting that I do so.22:48
Quintasancrimsun: well I'm not going to impose any work on you22:49
Lex79JontheEchidna: mail sent23:33
Riddellwhat a mess23:50
QuintasanRiddell: I can only agree23:52

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