| noodles775 | Morning people | 07:30 |
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| wgrant | Morning noodles775. | 07:30 |
| jml | good morning launchpadders | 08:28 |
| mrevell | Howdy fellow travellers | 09:17 |
| jml | ahoy | 09:20 |
| jml | mrevell, hi | 10:01 |
| mrevell | howdy jml, let me check I have minutes | 10:01 |
| jml | mrevell, ok. I can call you also | 10:01 |
| mrevell | jml, that would be superb. I have no minutes allowance remaining. | 10:02 |
| * jml going offline for a while. call my mobile if needed. | 10:49 | |
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| deryck | Morning, all | 11:04 |
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| noodles775 | jml: will you have time for a call this afternoon? | 14:41 |
| jml | noodles775, sure. | 14:41 |
| jml | noodles775, whenever suits you | 14:41 |
| jml | except not 1800 UTC | 14:41 |
| noodles775 | jml: in 10mins? | 14:43 |
| jml | noodles775, great. | 14:43 |
| intellectronica | matsubara: hi, i'm back, what did you want to ask? | 14:45 |
| matsubara | intellectronica, hi | 14:45 |
| matsubara | intellectronica, I wanted to ask about https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/401724 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/401923 they're both targeted to .11. should we drop the milestone for those? retarget to another milestone? | 14:46 |
| intellectronica | matsubara: i will untarget and unassign from myself. those are no longer scheduled | 14:47 |
| matsubara | intellectronica, ok. thanks | 14:47 |
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| jml | noodles775, in case you missed it on #bzr, bzr-builder gets it from the changelog. | 15:34 |
| jml | noodles775, maybe another mistake in our data model. :\ | 15:35 |
| noodles775 | yeah, I saw. Thanks. | 15:38 |
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| allenap | abentley: Are you free to talk about TwistedJobRunner at 1700 UTC? | 16:33 |
| abentley | allenap: Sure. | 16:33 |
| allenap | abentley: Thanks. | 16:34 |
| noodles775 | Night all. | 16:53 |
| abentley | allenap: How did you want to chat? | 17:00 |
| allenap | abentley: Skype okay? | 17:00 |
| abentley | allenap: Sure. | 17:00 |
| abentley | I can hear you. | 17:01 |
| intellectronica | gary_poster: so andrea-bs has #the problem only manifests in the testsuite. trying to load many pages result in "Could not adapt" errors | 17:05 |
| intellectronica | argh | 17:05 |
| intellectronica | the same pages load just fine in the browser | 17:06 |
| intellectronica | looks, b.t.w like both myself and andrea-bs will have to go soon, so this is not urgent, but the branch in question is lp:~andrea-bs/launchpad/blueprint-comments-part3 | 17:06 |
| sinzui | bac: ping | 17:07 |
| gary_poster | intellectronica: ok. do you know what test command I can run to quickly get the failure? | 17:07 |
| intellectronica | gary_poster: bin/test -vvt stories/blueprints | 17:08 |
| gary_poster | ok | 17:08 |
| intellectronica | (it's a sequential test suite, unfortunately) | 17:08 |
| gary_poster | :-P :-) | 17:08 |
| andrea-bs | thank you intellectronica, gary_poster for your help: I have to leave now. Of course, feel free to contact me by mail if you need | 17:09 |
| jml | gary_poster, intellectronica: you both know about the '-1' option, right? | 17:09 |
| gary_poster | intellectronica, andrea-bs: my other review has a schema change, so I can't get to it ATM. I'll try to look at it today and get back to you | 17:09 |
| jml | it shows only the first failure. | 17:10 |
| intellectronica | gary_poster: thanks a bunch | 17:10 |
| jml | gary_poster, is PQM really actually open? | 17:10 |
| gary_poster | jml: -1 yeah, thank you | 17:10 |
| gary_poster | jml: yes | 17:10 |
| jml | gary_poster, wuu. | 17:10 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 17:10 |
| sinzui | bac the presentation is suggested for upstream quality for a source package does not need to change. I realise now that that the project page must be different from the source package page because the package cares more about the series info. Since a project can have many source packages, a simple graphic treatment is not possible. | 17:10 |
| jml | time to convert some inventory into VALUE! | 17:11 |
| jml | (that probably means spurious conflicts and make-work from changed APIs & intermittently failing tests, but hey) | 17:15 |
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| mrevell | nytol | 17:54 |
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| deryck | So this is what a working internet connection feels like. | 18:37 |
| jml | deryck, smooth and slightly oily! | 18:40 |
| deryck | and a bit the smell of coffee | 18:40 |
| * deryck had to find shelter in a coffee shop | 18:40 | |
| jml | ahh yes, coffee | 18:40 |
| jml | g'night all | 19:04 |
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| jml | gary_poster, while you're around... would it be possible for me to change the subunit dependency to lp:subunit? it's in a format incompatible with the one currently being used | 19:59 |
| gary_poster | jml: that's more of a policy question for mthaddon, if I understand you. (I don't understand context of "it's in a format incompatible with the one currently being used") | 20:01 |
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| jml | gary_poster, the one we've got is packs, lp:subunit is 2a | 20:02 |
| jml | gary_poster, if I change sourcedeps.conf and run the update script I get errors, I think. | 20:02 |
| jml | gary_poster, alternatively, tell me how to make an egg out of subunit :) | 20:02 |
| gary_poster | jml, per option 2: we don't have to make it an egg, but something that plays with distutils alone. We prefer source distributions, actually. If we had a bit of time next week I'd be happy to look at it. | 20:04 |
| gary_poster | jml, per option 1: "if I change sourcedeps.conf and run the update script I get errors, I think." Even if you delete the old branch? I'd be surprised | 20:04 |
| jml | gary_poster, sure, not if I delete the old branch :) | 20:05 |
| jml | gary_poster, but I guess if I have to do that then it's a special rollout thing | 20:05 |
| jml | gary_poster, which means "ask tom" | 20:06 |
| gary_poster | jml: well, actually it's messier than that ATM | 20:06 |
| jml | :( :( | 20:06 |
| gary_poster | jml: right now we have sourcecode.conf and config manager duplicating each other | 20:06 |
| gary_poster | sourcecode.conf is supposed to become canonical for the losas, hopefully this cycle (I *think* it is just their work from here on out, but Tom and I need to confer( | 20:07 |
| gary_poster | jml: the big question right now (for tom and maybe flacoste) is whether we want a non PQM-managed branch. In an abstract sense, I don't see why it would make a big difference for us, but sometimes people see things differently than I for some strange reason. :-) And I'd prefer to see a Python distribution of subunit myself, anyway, so that would be my preferred solution, which would make all of this other discussion irrele | 20:08 |
| jml | gary_poster, well, subunit isn't strictly-speaking a Python project | 20:09 |
| gary_poster | ah right | 20:09 |
| jml | gary_poster, it's built with autotools. | 20:09 |
| gary_poster | I forgot | 20:09 |
| gary_poster | If we are ok with a non-PQM managed branch and we don't want to/can't make a standard Python distro then we could make the sourcecode.conf script a bit more careful | 20:10 |
| jml | gary_poster, given that changing the revision of the branch that we use requires passing the test suite, I don't see why there'd be a problem | 20:10 |
| gary_poster | jml: right, that's my take | 20:10 |
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| jml | gary_poster, also, lifeless is the project maintainer. when it's broken it won't be because of a failing test :) | 20:11 |
| gary_poster | script more careful: if the branch already exists locally, and the parent is different than what is supposed to be branched, then blow the local one away | 20:12 |
| gary_poster | jml: ^^ That would be easy enough to do if necessary | 20:12 |
| * gary_poster said, waving his hands | 20:12 | |
| jml | gary_poster, yeah, I've thought of making that change myself | 20:12 |
| jml | gary_poster, but there's not much point if I can't do my thing on production :) | 20:13 |
| gary_poster | jml: yup, that's why I said it after I said, talk to flacoste and mthaddon :-) | 20:13 |
| gary_poster | I don't think getting it on prod will be a big deal mechanically | 20:13 |
| jml | cool. | 20:14 |
| jml | gary_poster, thanks for the help. | 20:14 |
| gary_poster | np, jml | 20:14 |
| gary_poster | sinzui: do you know the bug for the fact that the "close bugs when creating a release" feature implementation had performance problems? (I know the feature itself is bug 341687) | 20:22 |
| sinzui | gary_poster: do you mean the bug that I closed on the 10.01 milestone today? | 20:23 |
| gary_poster | sinzui: Maybe. I mean the bug for the branch that I approved for a reroll or CP, and that Tom instated as a CP today, which backed out your feature. | 20:25 |
| sinzui | gary_poster: bug 513321 | 20:25 |
| abentley | wgrant: Have you landed your buildd-generalization branch, or were you expecting me to land those changes as part of my branch? | 20:26 |
| gary_poster | sinzui: thank you, yes | 20:26 |
| jamalta | is there a list of launchpad dev's and what teams they are in? | 21:30 |
| jamalta | bac's article mentions reviewing with someone from a specific team, but there's too many of you to keep track! :) | 21:30 |
| wgrant | abentley: I think you should just go ahead and land yours. | 21:31 |
| jamalta | i'm only kidding of course, i just don't know who is on what team for the most part | 21:31 |
| wgrant | There's little point in landingmine separately. | 21:31 |
| abentley | wgrant: Okay. I got 4 test failures, but 3 looked spurious, so hopefully, it'll just work. | 21:31 |
| wgrant | abentley: What were the failures? | 21:32 |
| abentley | wgrant: They're hard to retrieve because they were run under VNC. | 21:33 |
| wgrant | Oh, I see your email now. | 21:36 |
| wgrant | I didn't know that stuff was actually tested. | 21:36 |
| Edwin-lunch | mars: ping | 21:43 |
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| mars | hi EdwinGrubbs | 21:44 |
| EdwinGrubbs | mars: I got smartsprites working and generating all the sprite files, but I am wondering why we don't just use PIL. I was able to take a super simple script someone wrote for sprites and recreate most of smartsprites in 100 lines. | 21:46 |
| mars | :) | 21:46 |
| mars | EdwinGrubbs, ok, why not? If it is just a simple script, and the configuration is obvious, then I don't see a problem. | 21:47 |
| EdwinGrubbs | mars: if you have some time, I'd like to bounce off some of the design/workflow decisions with integrating this fully. | 21:48 |
| mars | EdwinGrubbs, I think it is a bit close to my EoD here. Could we talk on Monday perhaps? Before the AJAX call maybe? | 21:50 |
| EdwinGrubbs | mars: sure | 21:50 |
| mars | thanks | 21:51 |
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