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[00:40] <darthanubis> so, other than whites lines on either side of my screen as though the desktop is framed everything looks good
[00:41] <darthanubis> my desktop shutdown instantly once while trying to install ntp from the system menu for time update but that it about it
[00:41] <darthanubis> uptime 20mins
[00:41] <darthanubis> upgrading all my packages atm
[00:42] <darthanubis> the lines only came up after i changed the theme
[00:42] <darthanubis> nvidia card current driver
[00:42] <danbhfive> darthanubis: is this a fresh alpha2?
[00:42] <darthanubis> yes
[00:42] <danbhfive> I used to have those white lines, but they are gone now
[00:43] <darthanubis> cool
[00:45] <darthanubis> upgrades done
[00:45] <darthanubis> brb
[01:44] <macman_> hola
[01:47] <BUGabundo> adeus
[01:47]  * macman_ really speaks english
[01:48] <IngForigua> Hello everyone
[01:51] <IngForigua> someone know, When  the translations will be open for lucid?
[01:53] <danbhfive> IngForigua: maybe March 25, the DocumentationStringFreeze
[01:53] <IngForigua> March 25 ok thanks
[01:57] <IngForigua> excuse me, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule it says >>>> February 4th Translations are open in LP
[01:58] <danbhfive> IngForigua: oops, sorry
[01:59] <IngForigua> ok thanks, i like help to translate yo spanish :D
[01:59] <IngForigua> with mi local team
[02:04] <darthanubis> is the 64bit flashinstaller real 64bit this time ;)
[02:05] <darthanubis> I've already added sevenmachines ppa and have it but jsut wondering if the default one was after the fact
[03:33] <darthanubis> running great
[03:33] <darthanubis> but changing the theme will place a white frame around the workspace
[03:33] <darthanubis> until you log out and back in
[03:38] <un214> how to enable java applets again?
[03:41] <bjsnider> darthanubis, no. if you want to change that, go find asac and convince him.
[03:41] <darthanubis> and why would I ever think samba would work properly I'll never know
[03:42] <darthanubis> I can't hold down the direction keys in gnome-terminal to move instead of having to keep pressing the key
[03:42] <darthanubis> that will get old fast
[03:42] <bjsnider> samba is worse in karmic than in jaunty
[03:43] <darthanubis> I know
[03:43] <darthanubis> and it looks like it has gotten worse yet again
[03:43] <darthanubis> it is amazing
[03:43] <darthanubis> it won't accept my auth to browse my own network
[03:43] <bjsnider> there's a really annoying bug where shares don't show up unless you refresh after 5+ seconds
[03:44] <darthanubis> it keeps asking for my login info
[03:44] <darthanubis> thre is no damn login info
[03:57] <un214> ok that's bad
[03:57] <un214> I managed to fix things so hibernate doesn't work
[04:17] <switchgirl> hi youtube videos wont play, nore redtube, nor iplayer whats wrong with java for firefox?
[04:18]  * switchgirl pokes the channel
[04:21] <switchgirl> DanaG, hi
[04:22] <DanaG> hmm, anyone know how to trigger gdm-guest-session?
[04:23] <switchgirl> DanaG, youtube videos wont play, nore redtube, nor iplayer whats wrong with flash for firefox?
[04:23] <DanaG> why're you asking me, by name specifically?
[04:23] <switchgirl> cus your the only person in here alive
[04:24] <switchgirl> the others are dead/busy or busy/dead
[04:33] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: Why are you on Lucid?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> are you using it as an actsual install?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> instead of Karmic?
[04:34] <switchgirl> yea duel booting
[04:35] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: with Windows? which version, altough not that relivant
[04:35] <switchgirl> sebsebseb, i want to help, duel booting karmic and lucid
[04:35] <switchgirl> 10gb lucid 140gb karmic
[04:36] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: I have done it myself before about uhmm three times,  or something like that,  used development version of Ubuntu, as an actsual install for my useual computer useage, before the beta,  but this shoudn't really be done, since bugs etc
[04:36] <sebsebseb> why do you want to dual boot both?
[04:37] <switchgirl> sebsebseb, i duel boot em... have done since day 1
[04:37] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: ok, but you just put you wanted help dual booting them
[04:37] <sebsebseb> ?
[04:37] <switchgirl> no
[04:37] <switchgirl> flash wont work
[04:38] <switchgirl> i have the plugin from the repos
[04:38] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: Flash is a common issue with Firefox in Ubuntu
[04:38] <switchgirl> firefox cant play youtube, and i have never had this issue before
[04:38] <sebsebseb> one way to solve it useually is to try another browser that uses Flash from the repo, such as Epiphany (sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser)  or Galeon
[04:39] <DanaG> Flash is a common issue with EVERYTHING.
[04:39] <DanaG> =þ
[04:39] <DanaG> Flash... bleh.
[04:39] <DanaG> EVRYTHAAANG.
[04:39] <DanaG> =þ
[04:39] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: by the way regarding your partitions uhmm  140GB for Karmic seems like  well way more than is needed, what's your actsaul partition set up?
[04:40] <DanaG> In other woreds... I hate Flash.
[04:40] <DanaG> I keep my media on my windows partition.
[04:41] <sebsebseb> DanaG: right and HTML 5 <video> could start to kill  Flash being used for videos on websites, problem is  it seems Youtube want to do it, but supporting Apple's propritary thing
[04:41] <DanaG> damn software patents.
[04:41] <DanaG> Even on the DEcoder.
[04:41] <switchgirl> ok and no alsa now
[04:41] <sebsebseb> DanaG: you know about this then?
[04:41] <DanaG> /dev/sda6              22G   15G  5.6G  73% /                        /dev/sda1             148G  141G  7.4G  96% /media/Vista                           /dev/sda7              53G   40G   11G  80% /home
[04:41] <DanaG> that's my df -h
[04:41] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: Why are you doing Lucid in the first place?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> early
[04:42] <switchgirl> sebsebseb, to file the bug reports and help
[04:42] <sebsebseb> DanaG: I wanted her  partitions, but uhmm ok at yours
[04:42] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: right ok
[04:42] <sebsebseb> well  sound uhmm  not really my thing to be helping with, but Flash well I just suggested something for that
[04:43] <switchgirl> it worked sebsebseb ty
[04:43] <sebsebseb> switchgirl:  yeah it tends to just work no problem, in those two other browsers
[04:44] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: which one you installed, you did both?
[04:44] <sebsebseb> or you did both?
[04:45] <switchgirl> both
[04:45] <switchgirl> i have epihany streaming video but no sound
[04:45] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: so what's your partition set up in more detail?  it seemed a little hrm to me by what you said
[04:45] <sebsebseb> oh, what about Galeon?
[04:46] <switchgirl> there is no sound / volume applet up on the top bar
[04:46] <sebsebseb> DanaG: pulseaudio is worse than Flash really
[04:46] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: probably some sort of pulseaudio issue, since that's what Ubuntu uses now
[04:47] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: development versions tend to be good to clean install every now and again as well
[04:48] <sebsebseb> I mean from experience with starting with early alpha and then trying to keep it all up to date without problems, no it does not go liket hat
[04:48] <sebsebseb> something happens eventualley
[04:48] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: you can test Lucid in a virtual machine rather than a psyical install if you want, or you could do both
[04:48] <sebsebseb> well as long as your computer has enough RAM and such of course
[04:53] <DanaG> Pulseaudio is fine for me.
[04:54] <DanaG> Aside from my buggy USB sound card that doesn't report proper number of channels.
[04:54] <sebsebseb> ok
[05:29] <DanaG> random: http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/koala.gif
[05:52] <Viper1432> Just checking, but after system updates to my alpha2 laptop, it appears the volume control has vanished.  Just me, or ???
[07:31] <DanaG> oops, messing around with /msg to myself.
[07:31] <onetinsoldier> lol
[07:31] <DanaG> and a whole long line of '............'
[07:31] <DanaG> Oddly enough, it doesn't wrap anywhere.
[07:40]  * Killeroid is away: I can see Russia from my bottle!
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[08:40] <BUGabundo_remote> morning \o/ #vacation in 10h :D
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[10:53] <mzz> hmm, I wonder why my keyboard stopped repeating
[11:06]  * BUGabundo_remote mumbles about broken debian
[11:30] <junkY_San> hey, how can i edit the "adress" in the file browser?
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[11:51] <om26er> junkY_San, ctrl+l
[11:57] <junkY_San> thx om26er
[11:57] <ubuntujenkins> is anyone having problems with awn since this mornings updates launching from the command line i get the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/365142/
[11:58] <ubuntujenkins> i am using the awn testing ppa
[12:13] <Milos_SD> anyone else having issue with firefox 3.7 nightly build and flash? Firefox freezes everytime it needs to load flash on a page
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Milos_SD: nope, please try asking in #ubuntu-mozillateam :)
[12:55]  * gnomefreak working on something else atm but someone should still be there
[13:32] <Volkodav> is thunderbird 3,0 added to the repos yet ?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[14:10] <gnomefreak> no it has not been uploaded to servers yet. please use policy it will show you if it is or not
[14:10] <gnomefreak> i know hes gone
[14:10] <gnomefreak> hi BluesKaj
[14:12] <BluesKaj> hi gnomefreak
[14:18] <BUGabundo_remote> hey Kaj
[14:24] <BluesKaj> hey BUGabundo
[14:31] <petsounds> hi.. if kubuntu lucid alpha 2 can't read my second hard disk what's exactly the problem? thanks
[14:32] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo_remote
[14:35] <yofel> petsounds: is the hdd not recognized or can't the os read the filesystem? (sudo fdisk -l should show if the hdd is recognized)
[14:39] <petsounds> yofel, http://imagebin.org/82398 and http://pastebin.org/83928
[14:42] <BUGabundo_remote> hey charlie
[14:42] <BUGabundo_remote> petsounds: alpha2 is a bit old
[14:47] <petsounds> BUGabundo_remote,  ok i will update and see if the problem is fixed.
[14:47] <yofel> petsounds: no idea, the hdd get's recognized by the os, and I don't know how KDE get's the list
[14:48] <yofel> but updating *is* a good idea ;)
[14:54] <petsounds> yofel, ok i let you know if the problem is fixed with updating. thanks anyway
[15:01] <BUGabundo_remote> FYI
[15:01] <BUGabundo_remote> [reed]: http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2010-01-27/multi-process-plugins-on-by-default/ !Firefox OOPP was turned on. dom.ipc.plugins.enabled separated process
[15:05] <DanaG> YAHOOO!
[15:05] <DanaG> now I can get Flash to stop crashing the whole browser!
[15:10] <bjsnider> flash doesn't crash the whole browser
[15:10] <bjsnider> flash doesn't crash at all
[15:12] <BUGabundo_remote> DanaG: known
[15:14] <DanaG> well, it DOES crash on my mom's imac... right now she uses Safari because of that.  Bleh.
[15:14] <DanaG> I must say, the printing settings stuff in Linux is far, far better than in OS X.
[15:20] <BUGabundo_remote> DanaG: get chromium
[15:21] <BUGabundo_remote> and use html5
[15:30] <DanaG> I use Firefox on Linux for my own system... the one with the big issue with Flash crashing is my mom's imac.
[15:35] <petsounds> yofel, the update process was finished but dolphin still can't read my second hard disk. so i guess it's Dolphin issue because with nautilus i have no problem.
[15:36] <yofel> petsounds: I'm really no expert on this, you could ask in #kubuntu-devel, they should know more (don't forget to mention you're running lucid)
[15:38] <petsounds> yofel, http://imagebin.org/82407 ok will do that.
[15:38] <dholbach> final day of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in 22 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net (first up: "Writing Beautiful Code")
[15:40] <BluesKaj> petsounds, dolphin and konqueror aren't able to populate the dirs when called up , they "die unexpectedly" so not seeing another HDD is probly part of the same problem
[15:41] <BluesKaj>  I've been using nautilus instead as well
[15:41] <petsounds> BluesKaj, so you have the same problem like me?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> petsounds, not exactly , but i can't call up any dirs in dolphin or konq
[15:43] <BluesKaj> except/ home/user
[15:44] <petsounds> BluesKaj, ok.. let me know if you found a solution for this issue :-)
[15:46] <BluesKaj> petsounds, use nautilus until it's fixed
[15:49] <BUGabundo_remote> two questions for my fellow friendly testers
[15:49] <BUGabundo_remote> is kmail background services of pgp/mail sig work ???
[15:50] <BUGabundo_remote> *2: anyone is able to remount ext4 as ro, and fsck it in recovery??
[15:54] <Volkodav> I have gnome sound applet gone after upgrade today
[15:54] <Volkodav> what's it called anyway ? gnome sound something ?
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[16:45] <onetinsoldier> hello all
[16:47] <onetinsoldier> i have a problem ever since yesterdays updates. if i'm on the command line and i press and hold down the up-arrow key, it no longer 'scrolls' through my previous list  of commands. i have to continually press the up-arrow and it will only take make up one command at a time
[16:49] <onetinsoldier> if i try to edit a command that i have type out, by pressing the back-arrow key, it no longers take be back characters quickly if i hold it down, i have to press the back-arrow key over and over to go one character at a time
[16:50] <onetinsoldier> s/be/me
[16:58] <BUGabundo_remote> "On Linux, compiz effects and Flash don’t work together on some systems, mozilla bug 535612"
[16:58] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 535612 in Plug-ins "[OOPP][Linux] Some Flash objects (e.g. Homestar Runner, Youtube) don't receive clicks, with Compiz effects & 'dom.ipc.plugins.enabled' turned on" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535612
[16:58] <BUGabundo_remote> DanaG: ^^^^^
[16:59] <vish> onetinsoldier: there was a problem with the recent update... just reset the keyboad prefs
[16:59] <BUGabundo_remote> "On Linux with GTK+-2.18 or later, GDK assertions and a fatal XError,mozilla bug 540197"
[16:59] <vish> keyboard*
[16:59] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 540197 in Plug-ins "OOPP: "gdk_x11_colormap_foreign_new: assertion `GDK_IS_VISUAL (visual)' failed" and BadPixmap fatal XError in browser resizing plugin with GTK+-2.18" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540197
[17:05] <onetinsoldier> BUGabundo_remote: hey. sorry, i had to suddenly step away for a bit there. i'll give your solution a go right now. thanks :-)
[17:05] <BUGabundo_remote> onetinsoldier: mine?
[17:05] <onetinsoldier> yes.. you're suggestion/solution.... however
[17:06]  * BUGabundo_remote is confused
[17:06] <onetinsoldier> BUGabundo_remote: i just pulled up System --> Preferences _ Keyboard
[17:06] <onetinsoldier> BUGabundo_remote: and i don't see a 'Defaults' button
[17:07] <onetinsoldier> BUGabundo_remote: arrrgh. my bad
[17:07] <Volkodav> there is no xorg.conf anymore ?
[17:07] <onetinsoldier> it's vish i should be talking at!
[17:07] <darthanubis> for at least wo releases no Volkodav
[17:07] <darthanubis> two
[17:08] <Volkodav> I have second monitor recognized ok in gnome - but not in xfce for some reason
[17:08] <vish> onetinsoldier: there is no defaults button.. but you need to set them again
[17:08] <Volkodav> I figured will copy the file - but there is nothing to copy lol
[17:09] <onetinsoldier> vish: actually, i do see a defaults button. but it's greyed out
[17:09] <darthanubis> Volkodav, what video driver you using?
[17:09] <onetinsoldier> vish: ok, what do i have to do to set them again?
[17:09] <Volkodav> intel I believe
[17:09] <Volkodav> lemme check
[17:09] <vish> onetinsoldier: not that one... from the general tab ,  activate the Repeat keys , and increase the speed and decrease the delay
[17:10] <onetinsoldier> vish: i tried that yesterday. maybe i set it wrong.. however, it didn't seem to be the same thing as i described in my problem
[17:11] <Volkodav> Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0
[17:11] <vish> onetinsoldier: the repeat not working will work when you adjust those settings[atleast it did for several others as well]  or yours might be something new
[17:11] <onetinsoldier> vish: what are you're set at on there? the sliders? what are your sliders set to?
[17:11] <Volkodav> Video Device [GFX0] (multi-head: yes  rom: no  post: no)
[17:11] <vish> onetinsoldier: just increase them at random :)
[17:11] <charlie-tca> Volkodav: you are right
[17:11] <onetinsoldier> vish: hmmm, ok
[17:11] <Volkodav> same driver why xfce will not see it ?
[17:12] <charlie-tca> I don't know if xfce can do that yet in 4.6.1
[17:12] <charlie-tca> it took a lot of work to get dual monitors to work in 9.10 with xfce
[17:12] <onetinsoldier> vish: that did the trick. thanks!
[17:13] <Volkodav> with xorg it would be easy
[17:13] <Volkodav> now i am lost
[17:13] <vish> onetinsoldier: ha.. ;)
[17:13] <vish> np..
[17:13] <Volkodav> there must be some type of config file somewhere
[17:13] <onetinsoldier> vish: thanks again. cheers :-)
[17:14] <Volkodav> it's nice and easy with nvidia though
[17:14] <Volkodav> this intel shit never works right
[17:14] <Pici> Volkodav: Please mind your language here.
[17:14] <jussi01> guntbert: got a min for a PM?
[17:14] <darthanubis> Volkodav, dpkg-reconfigure xorg or something like that
[17:15] <darthanubis> google will fix the spelling and syntax
[17:15] <Volkodav> I'll try
[17:16] <darthanubis> vish, fixed me up as well
[17:16] <darthanubis> I would not have thought to look in the obvious place
[17:16] <darthanubis> never had to touch keyboard settings ever
[17:16] <vish> darthanubis: yeah , i just lucked out with that one :D
[17:16] <darthanubis> now if I could just browse samba from my own freaking computer all would be normal
[17:17] <vish> rather got lucky*
[17:17] <darthanubis> I can browse the share from my pc and the whole network from all but my pc
[17:17] <onetinsoldier> vish: yesterday when i tried that, i think i set the delay to to short. when i tried to type 'hello' it would come out like 'hheelloo', lol
[17:17] <darthanubis> I can browse the share from my other pcs and the whole network from all but my pc
[17:18] <darthanubis> my own pc is asking me for a login which is a valid login but won't ever accept it
[17:18] <darthanubis> just over and over with the asking of the passwd
[17:18] <darthanubis> I used smbpasswd -a to add a valid user
[17:18] <darthanubis> that still did nothing
[17:18] <darthanubis> I logged out and back in
[17:18] <darthanubis> I restarted the server
[17:19] <darthanubis> I looked at the .smb folder
[17:19] <vish> Pici: hmm... do you have highlights set for when members dont mind their language? [i often find you quick to catch it ;)]
[17:19] <Pici> vish: yes :)
[17:19] <vish> lol ;)
[17:22] <Volkodav> hmm dpkg-reconfigure xorg does not do anything
[17:22] <Volkodav> weird
[17:23] <guntbert> jussi01: any time
[17:37] <om26er> when I press and hold backspace to remove text it does not work continuously
[17:37] <om26er> this happened after today's updates
[17:38] <CosmiChaos> works for me
[17:38] <Volkodav> hmm I guess I am stuck in gnome for now
[17:38] <CosmiChaos> stuck?
[17:38] <Volkodav> what if I create xorg.conf ?
[17:38] <CosmiChaos> gnome doesnt stuck
[17:38] <Volkodav> yeah - second monitor is not recognized by xfce
[17:39] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, open your /etc/hosts.allow file and make sure the IPs on your network are listed  for examaple :All 192.168.x.x
[17:42] <CosmiChaos> any flaws on 2.6.32-12 known yet?
[17:42] <onetinsoldier> none here that i know of yet
[17:43] <CosmiChaos> ok thanks
[17:43] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[17:43] <onetinsoldier> om26er: hello
[17:44] <om26er> yes
[17:44] <onetinsoldier> om26er: i had the same problem. vish helped me. i can tell you how he had me fix it
[17:44] <om26er> sorry
[17:44] <om26er> onetinsoldier, yes please tell me the fix
[17:44] <onetinsoldier> go to System --> Preferences --> Keyboard
[17:45] <om26er> ok
[17:45] <onetinsoldier> you need to make sure that you check the 'Key presses repeat...' checkbox
[17:46] <onetinsoldier> om26er: then, you need to figure out where you want the sliders set
[17:46] <onetinsoldier> om26er: what happened is some update unchecked that checkbox and all the sliders are over to the far right
[17:47] <onetinsoldier> om26er: so you have to set the sliders yourself
[17:48] <om26er> onetinsoldier, thanx alot man
[17:48] <onetinsoldier> om26er: same thing i said to vish :-) i hear you, you're welcome :)
[17:49] <CosmiChaos> well now i have the backspace bug too
[17:49] <onetinsoldier> that was driving me nuts. i was going to go back to karmic only ;-)
[17:49] <onetinsoldier> but, these are the kinds of things that are to be expected when using a beta version of ubuntu
[18:10] <onetinsoldier> CosmiChaos: hello. you fix it?
[18:16] <CosmiChaos> what?
[18:19] <CosmiChaos> it is not backspace, its just keyboard-press repeating at all
[18:19] <CosmiChaos> yeah samba 2.4.5
[18:21] <CosmiChaos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSB3sos3pME
[18:26] <darthanubis> BluesKaj, that has nothign to do with the issue
[18:26] <darthanubis> I don't need an allow rule
[18:29] <darthanubis> CosmiChaos, goto keyboard settings in the system menu
[18:33] <kaddi> Hi, how far along is lucid? Can you use it as a desktop system yet or is it still rather unstable?
[18:33] <kaddi> (it's not a productive system and I don't store important data on it.. but I'm not really interested in only fixing bugs on it either ;)
[18:34] <charlie-tca> xubuntu lucid only breaks bad once a week or so right now
[18:34] <crimsun> far too infrequently for my comfort
[18:35] <kaddi> it breaks to infrequently for your comfort?
[18:35] <darthanubis> kaddi, you ask @alpha2 level this question?
[18:35] <onetinsoldier> works fine for me so far. i've only had it installed for about 10 days though. i installed it right when the Alpha2 was released
[18:35] <kaddi> watch me ;)
[18:35] <kaddi> @ darthanubis
[18:36] <darthanubis> your going to ask every two weeks this question aren't you?;)
[18:36] <kaddi> but to be totally honest, I asked first and checked then which release lucid currently is
[18:36] <kaddi> naa... I'll come by more often ;)
[18:36] <darthanubis> I know:-P
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[18:36] <onetinsoldier> kaddi: you're thinking you want to install lucid but aren't sure?
[18:36] <darthanubis> kaddi, get back to #kubuntu
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[18:37] <onetinsoldier> kaddi: you use kubuntu?
[18:37] <kaddi> onetinsoldier: yeah, i switched to karmic when it was alpha3 and that went REALLY smooth, I believe it only realy broke once to the final release
[18:38]  * charlie-tca thinks it seems like something is wrong if the changes don't break it enough
[18:38] <onetinsoldier> kaddi: roger. how long have you been a linux/ubuntu user? do you consider yourself to be a power user?
[18:38] <kaddi> onetinsoldier: yes I'm on kubuntu
[18:38] <onetinsoldier> kaddi: roger. i like kde :-)
[18:39] <kaddi> onetinsoldier: it's kubuntu only for 5 years now, although the whole intel issue really is testing me :p
[18:40] <kaddi> onetinsoldier: i
[18:40] <darthanubis> http://www.apple.com/ipad/#video
[18:40] <darthanubis> who can play this video, and what plugins for your browser are installed if you can?
[18:40] <onetinsoldier> kaddi: when lucid becomes final i will install ubuntu, and i will install kubuntu on the partition i'm currently using
[18:40] <onetinsoldier> kaddi: what's the 'intel issue'?
[18:41] <darthanubis> kaddi, what do you do in KDE for antialiased fonts in gtk apps for 5yrs
[18:41] <darthanubis> what do you do for quicktime video ie apple trailers
[18:43] <kaddi> onetinsoldier: the regression for intel support in jaunty. I've had kernel freezes (and x freezes) when I tried to switch windows or watch a movie or anything really. I switched to a newer kernel and experimental drivers for jaunty and upgraded to karmic as soon as possible.
[18:43] <onetinsoldier> kaddi: oh, hmmm.
[18:44] <kaddi> darthanubis: well.. yesterday afternoon I watched that movie with the mplayer-mozilla plugin. Today I'm watching it with the the gnome-stuff you suggested to test yesterday.
[18:44] <kaddi> that movie was playing fine, it really only were the trailers that wouldn't run (and I wans't even aware of that until you asked about it, since I simply don't visit that site. :p )
[18:45] <darthanubis> i c
[18:45] <darthanubis> and the fonts?
[18:47] <kaddi> not really sure what you mean, I use kde fonts in gtk applications and the qt-curve theme to make them look like they're kde applications :p
[18:48] <kaddi> i used this gtk-qt-engine for some time, but that prevented my FF from closing correctly, so that I always had to kill it off. I don't think it actually exists anymore
[18:55] <BluesKaj> well darthanubis , if you think it's not relavent then good luck
[21:12] <zniavre> good evening
[21:12] <onetinsoldier> hello there
[21:12] <zniavre> does nvidia 173xxxx is running well on lucid please ?
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> i have no idea. i use ATI here... but, i think there is someting i can say
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> in Lucid.. the Xorg version is 7.5.. it is still considered quite new i believe
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> i do not think that either ATI or Nvidia 'proprietary' Linux 3D drivers work for either of them yet
[21:15] <onetinsoldier> i think you have to use the builtin open source drivers that come with Lucid for now
[21:16] <onetinsoldier> they're what i'm using. and i tried a couple of times to get the ATI FGLRX driver working. one time, i got them installed, but they don't work
[21:17] <zniavre> ok thank you
[21:17] <zniavre> im trying it only with virtualbox atm
[21:27] <BUGabundo> crimsun: very strange. I had audio muted, all day, came home, umuted, but sound didn't work until I increase the sound (one touch) and it was already at MAX, and sound began working
[21:28] <onetinsoldier> BUGabundo: strange
[21:28] <onetinsoldier> indeed
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[21:40] <DanaG> hmm, what's the best app for screen-recording under Compiz>
[21:40] <DanaG> ?
[21:41] <onetinsoldier> no idea
[21:42] <arand> recordmydesktop is ok. also see !best ;)
[21:46] <DanaG> well, that app is also slow.
[21:46] <DanaG> I need something that can capture at low quality, but at 60 fps.
[21:48] <DanaG> I'm trying to record how my touchpad spazzes out sometimes, on resume from suspend.
[21:56] <arand> DanaG: I think it has a bunch cli options, otherwise I know there's "istanbul"
[21:57] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/308191
[21:57] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 308191 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Multi fingers touch doesn't be correctly recognized" [Medium,Triaged]
[21:57] <DanaG> check my out-1.ogv video.
[22:00] <arand> DanaG: True, that snippet doesn't say much, video chop >> mouse chop
[22:01] <DanaG> Oooh, a better way to document it: annotate,
[22:01] <DanaG> .
[22:03] <crimsun> BUGabundo: do you have a log from that symptom?
[22:05] <BUGabundo> crimsun: only user usage. is this logged only with PA in debug mode?
[22:05] <BUGabundo> I could try to reproduce it
[22:06] <DanaG> oh yeah, my cm106 card I got for 70 bucks.... now there's a generic one available for like 25 bucks.
[22:06] <BUGabundo> FYI I add two Sessions from same user, enabled, which might complicate this stuff
[22:07] <crimsun> BUGabundo: well, yes, two sessions from the same user aren't well-supported currently
[22:07] <crimsun> BUGabundo: namely, console-kit lists both sessions as active, so any change to the mixer is validated and acted upon
[22:10] <BUGabundo> crimsun: IIMM I muted and unmuted on TTY 7
[22:11] <DanaG> okay, new video.
[22:14] <arand> DanaG: That is indeed very.. Illustrative :)
[22:14] <DanaG> =þ
[22:14] <DanaG> It's at once highly amusing, and highly frustrating. þ
[22:17] <arand> Hehe, bugs will be bugs.. Just had a complete filesystem fail myself, less amusing, more frustrating :/
[22:45] <howling> lucyd lurk uses 2.6.33?
[22:46] <DanaG> nope.
[22:46] <arand> Lucid Lynx, last time it was on 2.6.32-11, think it's still
[22:50] <mzz> 2.6.32-12 now, but yes, I'm pretty sure it's not going to jump to .33
[22:51] <crimsun> it will not.
[22:52] <neurre> hi
[22:52] <neurre> is it better to upgrade 9.10 to 10.4 or reinstall 10.4?
[22:53] <crimsun> the latter almost certainly
[22:53] <neurre> is there mini install iso for 10.4?
[22:53] <DanaG> Depends how much you've tweaked it.
[22:53] <neurre> i just installed 9.10 to vmware :D
[22:53] <crimsun> you mean 10.04, really ;)
[22:53] <neurre> probably
[22:54] <neurre> so.. what would be the smallest image to setup?
[22:54] <BUGabundo> neurre: minimal image 12MBs
[22:55] <neurre> where is it?
[22:56] <arand> But there are no minimal dailies right?
[22:56] <neurre> i looked at alpha 2 at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 but i didnt see mini image there either
[22:57] <neurre> i guess i could use upgrade path
[22:57] <crimsun> which arch?
[22:57] <neurre> x86
[22:58] <neurre> im running this on vmware on windows xp :-P
[22:58] <arand> Nope doesn't seem to be a mini there.. hm, wonder if they only do it for releases then...
[22:58] <crimsun> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[22:59] <neurre> is that for lucid?
[22:59] <neurre> silly me
[22:59] <neurre> cant even read the url :D
[22:59] <crimsun> nah, it's for Windows 7
[22:59] <neurre> cool
[23:00] <arand> I'm not sure if "sudo do-release-upgrade" yet...
[23:01] <neurre> brb
[23:08] <prefrontal> ever since I upgraded to lucid I have to run 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0' to get dns name resolution
[23:08] <prefrontal> how do I fix this?
[23:09] <crimsun> extraordinarily lacking in detail ;)
[23:09] <crimsun> first, are you using network-manager/wicd?
[23:09] <prefrontal> i don't think so. i can say that i have an ip address, i am connected to the internet, nfs and nis continue to work
[23:09] <prefrontal> early in the boot process i get a dns error from nfs saying it can't find the name of our nfs server, but i presume it uses the ip since it ends up working
[23:10] <prefrontal> i can get to google using the ip address before ifdown/ifup
[23:10] <jpds> prefrontal: Are you using NM or manually setting your DNS?
[23:10] <prefrontal> my resolv.conf contains  nameserver 128.138.130.30 search Colorado.EDU if that answers your question
[23:11] <prefrontal> we have a dozen identically configured jaunty/karmic workstations that all work
[23:11] <crimsun> is that all?
[23:11] <prefrontal> yeah
[23:11] <crimsun> then it doesn't appear to be generated by network-manager
[23:12] <crimsun> if it were managed by n-m, the first line in the file is always "# Generated by NetworkManager"
[23:12] <cebalrai> sooo I just saw that the sun-java6 packages have been removed from the repositories. Is Lucid exclusively switching to openJdk?
[23:12] <prefrontal> right, i think there is such a file in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:12] <crimsun> prefrontal: now look in interfaces(5)
[23:12] <jpds> cebalrai: I hope so.
[23:13] <prefrontal> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/raw/1771372
[23:14] <prefrontal> it would be much less confusing if it just plain didn't work. but instead it fails early in boot, and then works after boot
[23:15] <cebalrai> why hope? Because suns jdk is redundant?
[23:18] <crimsun> prefrontal: are you sure resolvconf isn't to blame?
[23:19] <neurrre> ha
[23:19] <neurrre> is 10.4 known to work with vmware?
[23:19] <neurrre> i installed from mini and it doesnt seem to even boot :-P
[23:20] <prefrontal> crimsun, do you know how i might go about debugging/testing resolvconf
[23:20] <prefrontal> i've tried running dhclient when the dns is down but that doesn't work
[23:22] <prefrontal> based on the man page my config files are good. i wonder if it's an out of order problem during the boot process. perhaps resolvconf doesn't find the config files?
[23:22] <crimsun> prefrontal: purge it and modify interfaces(5) as appropriate
[23:23] <prefrontal> ok. thanks for the advice
[23:24] <crimsun> after that, you can debug resolvconf's place in the upstart world
[23:26] <Incubuss> Anyone else not able to log into a guest session with Lucid (just left with a blank screen)?
[23:27] <Incubuss>  More importantly, anyone else find that if they switch to a virtual terminal to kill X that everything you typed also went into wherever you last had focus? Such as pidign in my case...
[23:31] <BUGabundo> I may be going crazy
[23:31] <BUGabundo> but I can't do multi keys press anymore
[23:31] <BUGabundo> ie, keeping a key pressed only enters ONE key
[23:31] <BUGabundo> not repeat
[23:31] <BUGabundo> anyone can confirm deny ?
[23:32] <IdleOne> I confirm you are crazy
[23:32] <IdleOne> :)
[23:34] <mzz> BUGabundo: I lost repeat here too
[23:34] <BUGabundo> thanks
[23:34] <mzz> BUGabundo: I also lost my multimedia keys (browser key, etc)
[23:34] <BUGabundo> IdleOne: SU :P
[23:34] <mzz> BUGabundo: I haven't checked where those went
[23:34] <BUGabundo> any idea of responsible package?
[23:34] <mzz> good question!
[23:35]  * BUGabundo checks update logs
[23:35] <mzz> it'd be convenient if there was an xf86-input-evdev upgrade at around the same time
[23:35] <BUGabundo> [UPGRADE] gnome-settings-daemon 2.29.6-0ubuntu1 -> 2.29.6-0ubuntu2
[23:36] <BUGabundo> don't have that mzz
[23:36] <mzz> oh, you're quite right
[23:36] <mzz> I have relevant messages in .xsession-errors from gnome-settings-daemon
[23:37] <mzz> libkeybindings.so isn't loading
[23:37] <mzz> that covers my media keys, I bet
[23:37] <BUGabundo> X updates wher on Tue, Jan 26 2010 08:39:57 +0000
[23:38] <mzz> oh well, I'll dig later
[23:38] <BUGabundo> I don't have those :\
[23:38] <BUGabundo> mzz: if/when you file a bug, sub me to it
[23:38] <BUGabundo> thanks
[23:39] <mzz> BUGabundo: actually I'm not sure anymore the media keys thing and the lack of autorepeat are the same bug
[23:39] <BUGabundo> :(
[23:40] <BUGabundo> ill open one for me
[23:40] <mzz> since (a) I'm not at all sure they started happening at the same time, and (b) those gnome-settings-daemon plugin load failures I have in .xsession-errors almost certainly explain the media keys, but not the autorepeat
[23:40] <BUGabundo> ill file one in GSD
[23:41] <BUGabundo> let it be triage latter
[23:41] <crimsun> fresh login?
[23:43] <crimsun> I can confirm the behavior of non-repeat, but I haven't rebooted
[23:44] <BUGabundo> crimsun: I've rebooted this morning
[23:44] <BUGabundo> updated 3 times today
[23:44] <Viper1432> got the same issue here for "repeat" keys.
[23:44] <Viper1432> and I have rebooted.  alpha2 latest updates on lappie.
[23:45] <BUGabundo> crimsun: mzz https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/514562
[23:45] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 514562 in gnome-settings-daemon "keyboard no longer repeats" [Undecided,New]
[23:45] <mzz> assuming that's actually in g-s-d, of course.
[23:46] <crimsun> I highly recommend using which-pkg-broke(1) in the future
[23:46] <crimsun> (in the debian-goodies binary package)
[23:46] <BUGabundo> crimsun: ?
[23:47] <BUGabundo> I need an example
[23:54] <onetinsoldier> BUGabundo: hello. are you wanting an example for that 'which-pkg-broke' command?
[23:54] <BUGabundo> YES :p
[23:54] <onetinsoldier> which-pkg-broke gnome-settings-daemon
[23:55] <onetinsoldier> then it looks like it show when it's various dependency packages were installed
[23:55] <BUGabundo> The program 'which-pkg-broke' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[23:55] <onetinsoldier> sudo aptitude install debian-goodies
[23:56] <BUGabundo>  /usr/bin/which-pkg-broke:7: DeprecationWarning: The popen2 module is deprecated.  Use the subprocess module.
[23:56] <onetinsoldier> yeah.. i get that too
[23:56] <mzz> that's completely ignorable, just means it's a little crufty.
[23:57] <BUGabundo> that's an HUGE LIST