| === kjyu|away is now known as Takutanuva | ||
| ccheney | anyone know of any major issues with lucid? i am considering upgrading to it before going to the sprint next week | 02:50 |
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| ccheney | it looks suprisingly stable for an alpha release when i booted up off a usb stick | 02:51 |
| * ccheney will upgrade and hope it works :) | 02:59 | |
| slangasek | I know of several major issues with lucid, all of which are documented ;) | 03:03 |
| ccheney | slangasek: major enough i should stick with karmic for main dev machine still? | 03:05 |
| * ccheney looks through alpha 3 bugs | 03:05 | |
| ccheney | hmm there is an intel wifi bug but those are fairly common in general, heh | 03:07 |
| ccheney | ah nm i was looking at the wrong bug list | 03:07 |
| slangasek | ccheney: nothing major enough that I'm stressing about it right now :) | 03:08 |
| slangasek | OTOH, I'm on Intel, so plymouth works for me | 03:08 |
| ccheney | slangasek: ok yea me too | 03:16 |
| ccheney | slangasek: it looks fine to me so far running off usb | 03:16 |
| jcastro | ccheney: I am having wifi issues (I think we have the same laptop) but I am also suspecting by AP (ymmv etc.) | 03:59 |
| ccheney | jcastro: ok | 04:02 |
| ccheney | jcastro: is it just occasional or constant? | 04:02 |
| ccheney | jcastro: it worked ok for the brief time i was running before i rebooted to back stuff up | 04:02 |
| jcastro | it's just real flaky, I only noticed it when I was prepping it for the sprint. | 04:02 |
| jcastro | dropped signal, long timeouts, etc. | 04:03 |
| ccheney | oh hmm :-\ | 04:05 |
| jcastro | but again, I am suspecting my AP, I'll let you know on monday. :D | 04:06 |
| ccheney | ok | 04:06 |
| ccheney | well i'll reinstall to lucid and see how it goes, heh | 04:06 |
| ccheney | we may end up in the kernel room getting them to hound intel :) | 04:06 |
| RAOF | Can someone give ndesk-dbus a rebuild prod? The sync initially failed to build (probably because one of its b-ds hadn't made it through NEW at that point); it builds fine now. | 05:57 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:07 |
| RAOF | Good morning. | 06:09 |
| pitti | asac: should I remove the firefox-3.5 source package now? | 06:17 |
| baali | I am getting this error on ubuntu 9.10 "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error", any hints? | 06:19 |
| baali | i have looked links on linuxqustion.org and ubuntu forum and not able to fix this | 06:20 |
| RAOF | Could be any number of things, and is probably not really on-topic for #ubuntu-devel - #ubuntu is the channel for support. | 06:23 |
| RAOF | One obvious thing that springs to mind is whether you've built an amd64 chroot and are trying to run it from a 32bit kernel. | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: prodded | 06:25 |
| RAOF | Ta muchly. | 06:28 |
| RAOF | Now, let's boot this new kerenl & see if cowboylaputopu will actually enter a low-power state when I tell it to suspend. | 06:28 |
| * mneptok falls asleep | 06:28 | |
| RAOF | With bonus check for xorg nouveau-autodetection patch correctness! | 06:30 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:56 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:02 |
| dholbach | pitti: do the special keys (xf86mail, xf86audioraisevolume, etc.) work for you in current lucid? | 08:14 |
| pitti | dholbach: yes, they do | 08:22 |
| pitti | dholbach: since I maintain the keymap tables, they better do :-P | 08:22 |
| dholbach | weird, for me they don't with current lucid | 08:24 |
| dholbach | Xf86HomePage brings up nautilus | 08:24 |
| === jam1 is now known as jam | ||
| pitti | dholbach: and they did work in karmic? very strange | 08:25 |
| dholbach | yes, they still worked yesterday | 08:25 |
| pitti | ! | 08:25 |
| pitti | now, udev didn't change at all | 08:25 |
| pitti | we got a new kernel, though | 08:25 |
| * dholbach has a look at apt log to find out what changed | 08:26 | |
| pitti | dholbach: I didn't test the hotkeys on my laptop today ete (it's docked); but on the mini they do work | 08:26 |
| dholbach | let me reboot with the old kernel | 08:27 |
| didrocks | dholbach: same for me, it works | 08:27 |
| pitti | s/ete/yet/, bah | 08:27 |
| dholbach | it's funny when the reboot/shutdown/logout indicator sometimes doesn't show anything :) | 08:28 |
| dholbach | ok, same with the old kernel | 08:28 |
| dholbach | weird, I have no idea what could have changed that behaviour | 08:30 |
| pitti | dholbach: you still have /lib/udev/rules.d/95-keymap.rules ? | 08:30 |
| dholbach | yep | 08:31 |
| dholbach | which gconf keys would override that somehow? | 08:32 |
| dholbach | there was a gconf update, maybe something went funny there | 08:32 |
| pitti | dholbach: you should first check that the generated keycodes are correct/wrong; /usr/share/doc/udev/README.keymap.txt | 08:33 |
| dholbach | pitti: so when I open the shortcut preferences and try to change them the Xf86Mail still shows up, when I press it | 08:33 |
| pitti | i. e. find your keyboard device (findkeyboards) and then keymap -i | 08:33 |
| pitti | dholbach: or use xev | 08:33 |
| dholbach | I guess the keycodes are fine, but yeah, let me check | 08:33 |
| pitti | dholbach: is mail correct or wrong? | 08:34 |
| pitti | dholbach: start with xev then | 08:34 |
| dholbach | it's what was in there before | 08:34 |
| dholbach | but it doesn't start thunderbird for me | 08:34 |
| dholbach | same goes for raise volume | 08:34 |
| pitti | ah, then I blame seb128 | 08:34 |
| dholbach | it just doesn't do anything | 08:34 |
| pitti | dholbach: try in a guest session? | 08:35 |
| dholbach | pitti: you are a clever man | 08:35 |
| dholbach | I'll do that | 08:35 |
| dholbach | pitti: nope, they don't work at all there | 08:36 |
| dholbach | oh, the guest session is completely busticated | 08:36 |
| dholbach | I can't click anything in there | 08:36 |
| dholbach | the mouse pointer moves, but that's it | 08:36 |
| pitti | hm; FTR it doesn't work for me either; I just get a VT with a mouse cursor, and then I have to reboot | 08:38 |
| pitti | some weird plymouth/KMS/xorg problem | 08:38 |
| dholbach | wow | 08:38 |
| dholbach | ** (gnome-settings-daemon:2833): WARNING **: /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-2.0/libmedia-keys.so: undefined symbol: notify_notification_show | 08:38 |
| dholbach | ** (gnome-settings-daemon:2833): WARNING **: Cannot load plugin 'Medientasten' since file '/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-2.0/libmedia-keys.so' | 08:38 |
| dholbach | cannot be read. | 08:38 |
| dholbach | ** (gnome-settings-daemon:2833): WARNING **: Error activating plugin 'Medientasten' | 08:38 |
| dholbach | (gnome-settings-daemon:2833): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed | 08:39 |
| dholbach | (gnome-settings-daemon:2833): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed | 08:39 |
| dholbach | (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:2843): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type `_PolkitError' | 08:39 |
| dholbach | (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:2843): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed | 08:39 |
| dholbach | that's /tmp/guest-home.feqBK3/.xsession-errors | 08:39 |
| pitti | oh, libmedia-keys.so? that seems relevant | 08:39 |
| dholbach | undefined symbol | 08:39 |
| pitti | dholbach: ah, confirmed here | 08:39 |
| * dholbach hears alarm bells ringing | 08:39 | |
| pitti | dholbach: just finished a dist-upgrade on the mini | 08:39 |
| pitti | itz gnome bug | 08:40 |
| dholbach | itz ugly | 08:40 |
| dholbach | didrocks: ^ fix it! | 08:40 |
| * dholbach hugs didrocks | 08:40 | |
| didrocks | rohhhh ^^ | 08:40 |
| * didrocks hugs dholbach | 08:40 | |
| * dholbach gets another cup of coffee while didrocks fixes it | 08:41 | |
| dholbach | ;-) | 08:41 |
| didrocks | dholbach: I'm sure you can live without it :p | 08:42 |
| * didrocks just notices he didn't touch g-s-d contrary to other desktopers ;) | 08:42 | |
| pitti | ah, so that's why the key repetition is broken | 08:44 |
| dholbach | pitti: "I'm sure you can live without it :p" | 08:44 |
| pitti | I just reenabled them in the keyboard settings this morning | 08:48 |
| asac | pitti: sure. thanks! | 08:54 |
| asac | (ffox 3.5 removal) | 08:54 |
| geser | could an archive admin please promote van.pydeb (python-van.pydeb) once again to main? it fell once again of it (see also bug #494104 for the last occurance) | 09:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 494104 in van.pydeb "[MIR] Promote "van.pydeb" back to main" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494104 | 09:01 |
| pitti | asac: removed then | 09:02 |
| asac | thx | 09:04 |
| pitti | geser: sure, doing | 09:05 |
| ogra | hrm, so the karmic->lucid upgrade stole my nodeadkeys setting | 09:41 |
| ogra | hrm, even though according to the keyboard settings it is set to nodeadkeys | 09:42 |
| ogra | aha, deleting the US layout (that wasnt there in karmic and i didnt select it) seems to fix my german setting | 09:43 |
| ogra | very weird and unintuitive | 09:43 |
| vish | ogra: kernel 32-12 ? | 09:43 |
| ogra | -11 | 09:44 |
| ogra | i dont think its anyhow related to the kernel but rather to gnome-settings-daemon or whatever handles the kbd settings atm | 09:44 |
| vish | k.. , i just noticed something weird with 32-12 update too , it turned off the keypress repeat settings :s | 09:44 |
| vish | ah , maybe the gsd update did it | 09:45 |
| ogra | works here with -11 ... i'm just running an upgrade | 09:45 |
| ogra | lets see if i still have it after thats done :) | 09:45 |
| ogra | aarrgghh | 10:16 |
| ogra | mmyy kkbbdd ddoouubblleess eevveerryy lleetttteerr ii ttyyppee nnooww | 10:16 |
| ogra | sseeeemmss ttoo bbee rreessttrriicctteedd ttoo XX | 10:17 |
| ogra | ah, better | 10:18 |
| ogra | so the key repetition sliders in the kbd settings both were completely moved to the left | 10:19 |
| ogra | seb128, do you have a bug for that ? its scary ! | 10:19 |
| Tm_T | ogra: I was about to ask if you did wear thick gloves (: | 10:19 |
| ogra | heh | 10:19 |
| seb128 | ogra, dholbach reported an issue with the keybinding code not loading yes | 10:19 |
| seb128 | ogra, but it just disable the gnome settings | 10:20 |
| ogra | no, its the repetitionm | 10:20 |
| seb128 | it doesn't double anything | 10:20 |
| seb128 | you get what xorg do by default | 10:20 |
| ogra | take your kbd settings and move both sliders to the very left :) | 10:20 |
| ogra | thats what i just had | 10:20 |
| seb128 | well this code fails to load | 10:20 |
| ogra | its g-s-d or whatever manages the kdb settings loosing its defaults | 10:21 |
| seb128 | so the setting should not be revelant | 10:21 |
| ogra | it surely didnt for me right now | 10:21 |
| seb128 | well the gnome code crashes | 10:21 |
| seb128 | so it's not setting anything | 10:21 |
| ogra | moving the sliders fixed it | 10:21 |
| ogra | so it sets it at least *at some point* | 10:21 |
| seb128 | weird | 10:21 |
| ogra | try it | 10:21 |
| seb128 | anyway I'm off to test the fix for that | 10:21 |
| seb128 | brb | 10:21 |
| ogra | i can reproduce it by moving both sliders back | 10:22 |
| seb128 | that will be quicker than discussing how the breakage break it for you | 10:22 |
| seb128 | as said the code is crashing and I've a fix ready to test | 10:22 |
| ogra | ok | 10:22 |
| seb128 | I don't think discussing what side effect the crash has it useful | 10:22 |
| seb128 | let's just fix it | 10:22 |
| seb128 | brb | 10:22 |
| ogra | no, go ahead, i'll test the fix if its up+ | 10:22 |
| ogra | weird, i now have a "jack control" tool in my media menu ... and it has no close button on the wiondow | 10:33 |
| EtienneG | pitti, I suffer from bug #454487, and gnome-settings-daemon 2.28.1-0ubuntu3 has been uploaded to karmic-proposed to fix it. Except, it's not there and I can't find it! Have it been pulled? | 10:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 454487 in gnome-desktop "The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error. During on a FreeNX server suring a session. The crash does not happen when xrandr plugin is disabled." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454487 | 10:39 |
| EtienneG | seb128, maybe you would know about the above ... ? | 10:45 |
| seb128 | EtienneG, let me look | 10:45 |
| EtienneG | seb128, I can see it at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/1:2.28.1-0ubuntu3, but it is neither in karmic-updates nor -proposed | 10:46 |
| seb128 | EtienneG, it is in karmic-updates | 10:47 |
| seb128 | EtienneG, apt-cache policy libgnome-desktop2-11? | 10:47 |
| seb128 | EtienneG, apt-cache policy libgnome-desktop-2-11 rather | 10:48 |
| EtienneG | seb128, ok, I must have been confused, lemme check | 10:48 |
| EtienneG | seb128, ah, ok, got it, however, gnome-settings-daemon is still at 2.28.1-0ubuntu2 | 10:50 |
| seb128 | right | 10:50 |
| seb128 | that's a different source | 10:50 |
| EtienneG | and g-s-d is what I actually need :( | 10:50 |
| seb128 | no reason for it to change version | 10:50 |
| EtienneG | ah, ok | 10:50 |
| seb128 | no | 10:50 |
| seb128 | the bug was in gnome-desktop there | 10:50 |
| seb128 | g-s-d uses the gnome-desktop library | 10:50 |
| EtienneG | I see | 10:50 |
| EtienneG | seb128, sorry for the confusion, and thanks a bunch for the help. i think I am all set. | 10:51 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 10:51 |
| seb128 | EtienneG, let me know if the update works for you or not | 10:51 |
| seb128 | ie if it fixes your issue | 10:51 |
| EtienneG | seb128, yes, i will, although I will not be able to test for a while | 10:51 |
| EtienneG | seb128, the affected system is in a walled network, complicating update | 10:52 |
| EtienneG | seb128, I am waiting for the mirror and update infrastructure to get setup | 10:52 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:52 |
| seb128 | in any case let us know if that's still an issue with the update when you get it | 10:53 |
| EtienneG | I was actually checking the status of all the bug i had to handle, and investigating that one. Seems like the solution is just an update, which is good! | 10:53 |
| EtienneG | seb128, I sure will | 10:53 |
| EtienneG | seb128, and thanks again for the prompt response, much appreciated | 10:54 |
| EtienneG | especially considering you guys must be insanely busy these days | 10:54 |
| EtienneG | with travelling and stuff | 10:54 |
| seb128 | travelling is tomorrow ;-) | 10:55 |
| EtienneG | I know, but packing and catch-up has to be today! | 10:55 |
| EtienneG | I am actually in Europe this week | 10:55 |
| dupondje | when get packages accepted that are in the lucid queue ? :) | 11:34 |
| === Knightlust is now known as Igorots | ||
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| doko_ | ccheney: updated the OOo patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.4/+bug/506358 again, please apply before the next try to build. Is the gsi export supposed to work? Afaicr we wanted to make this work for lucid | 12:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 506358 in gcc-4.4 "[armel] unable to find a register to spill in class 'GENERAL_REGS'" [High,Confirmed] | 12:39 |
| doko_ | asac: ^^^ one chunk missed, hope that the only one | 12:39 |
| asac | thanks | 12:40 |
| asac | doko_: btw, the dove hang on pybootchartgui import in python wasnt fixed by updating python ... but by recreating the .pycs afterwards ... any clue why that could be? | 12:42 |
| asac | thought the .pycs dont have native information | 12:42 |
| doko_ | no clue | 12:43 |
| pitti | doko_: should I just remove sun-java6 now? or file a bug about it? | 12:48 |
| pitti | s/file/filed/ | 12:48 |
| doko_ | pitti: from my point of view, yes. | 12:49 |
| pitti | sweet | 12:49 |
| seb128 | dholbach, ogra: bug #514281 btw | 13:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 514281 in gconf "lost gconf schema defaults" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514281 | 13:24 |
| seb128 | dholbach, ogra: that's your keyboard issue | 13:24 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| pitti | fix uploaded now | 13:43 |
| zul | pitti: the fix for pastedeploy has been uploaded as well | 13:51 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| ogra | seb128, bah, pitti broke the really funny description :P ... yeah looks identical | 14:22 |
| === Igorots is now known as Knightlust | ||
| pitti | zul: ah, sweet | 14:34 |
| pitti | ogra: it wasn't quite -- searchable | 14:34 |
| zul | pitti: ill go seed it if thats ok | 14:35 |
| pitti | zul: sure | 14:35 |
| ogra | pitti, but funny ! | 14:35 |
| pitti | zul: promoted | 14:36 |
| zul | pitti: thanks | 14:36 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|errand | ||
| lool | Hmm firefox doesn't start anymore for me | 14:43 |
| lool | is this a message that I should try chromium? | 14:44 |
| lool | Starts in safe mode though | 14:45 |
| asac | lool: greasemonkey package? | 14:46 |
| asac | remove that and install the .xpi from amo in profile | 14:47 |
| asac | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 | 14:49 |
| sebner | dholbach: you sure the ice won't break in the near future? :P | 15:02 |
| dholbach | sebner: we'll see | 15:04 |
| sebner | dholbach: heh, in elementary school we had a small pond and it was fun to slide over it .. until one broke in and was wet up until the hip :D | 15:05 |
| dholbach | yeah, I can imagine :) | 15:06 |
| lool | asac: Yup, I had greasemonkey installed; thanks | 15:09 |
| dholbach | pitti, seb128: thanks for working on those fixes! | 15:15 |
| pitti | dholbach: does it work for you now? | 15:15 |
| dholbach | yep | 15:15 |
| dholbach | all good and happy again | 15:15 |
| seb128 | dholbach, credit goes to pitti there | 15:16 |
| seb128 | I just pointed him to the bug | 15:16 |
| pitti | well, the blame goes to me as well, so that's only fair :) | 15:16 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 15:16 | |
| pitti | I just didn't want mvo to poke me all the way to Seattle tomorrow; it's hard to escape in a plane :) | 15:16 |
| mvo | indeed! | 15:17 |
| * mvo tries his best evil grin | 15:17 | |
| dholbach | final day of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in 22 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net (first up: "Writing Beautiful Code") | 15:39 |
| geser | dholbach: do you know if the source for http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html is available somewhere? | 15:39 |
| dholbach | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dholbach/+junk/new-sponsoring | 15:40 |
| dholbach | geser: ^ | 15:40 |
| geser | thanks, I want to try to add merge proposals to this list | 15:41 |
| dholbach | geser: not sure that's going to work | 15:44 |
| dholbach | geser: there's an open bug, let me find it | 15:44 |
| dholbach | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/411357 | 15:45 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 411357 in launchpad-code "Please expose a method to get all merge proposals that a person has been asked to review in the API" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:45 |
| dholbach | geser: that was the reason why I ported it from lpbugs to lplib in the first place :) | 15:45 |
| dholbach | but if you know something I don't and can fix it, that'd be cool :-D | 15:45 |
| * dholbach hugs geser | 15:45 | |
| geser | dholbach: https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/#team lists a getMergeProposals() method | 15:45 |
| dholbach | geser: I think that's merge proposals made by the team or somtehing else which doesn'T make sense | 15:46 |
| geser | ah, the other way around :( | 15:46 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| ogra | apw, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/osiris-lucid-20100128-2.png desktop is up when IO stops (not at the falsely set red line) | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: BTW, re bug 506717 and your comment there about vga= - vga= is implemented by the 16-bit boot protocol in Linux, and since 9.10 grub2 bypasses that and uses the 32-bit boot protocol by default, so this stuff only works with gfxpayload instead | 16:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 506717 in plymouth "[Lucid] plymouth does not display when using nvidia drivers" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506717 | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: however gfxpayload requires something in the kernel to actually deal with displaying text when video starts up (from its POV) in a non-VGA mode ... | 16:21 |
| slangasek | oh, hmm | 16:22 |
| slangasek | interesting | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | you *can* force grub2 to use the 16-bit bp by editing /etc/grub.d/10_linux to use linux16/initrd16 commands instead of linux/initrd | 16:23 |
| === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl | ||
| robbiew | pitti: can we use "DROPPED" as a work item status yet? /me hasn't been keeping up...apologies. | 16:56 |
| pitti | robbiew: I apologize likewise; sorry, no time to work on that yet | 16:56 |
| robbiew | no worries | 16:56 |
| robbiew | I understand ;) | 16:56 |
| pitti | robbiew: well, I can add the alias really quickly | 16:56 |
| robbiew | it's no real rush | 16:57 |
| pitti | robbiew: but the "postponed to lucid-3" magic will need more time | 16:57 |
| robbiew | pitti: ack | 16:58 |
| pitti | robbiew: done | 16:58 |
| robbiew | heh...thanks | 16:58 |
| pitti | robbiew: i. e. you can use "dropped" now, with same behaviour as "postponed" | 16:58 |
| pitti | but it might look nicer in the charts | 16:58 |
| pitti | s/charts/whiteboards/ | 16:58 |
| robbiew | ;) | 16:58 |
| === MacSlow|errand is now known as MacSlow | ||
| ScottK | asac: Bug #514404 | 17:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 514404 in python-qt4 "python-qt4 FTBFS on armel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514404 | 17:09 |
| asac | thx | 17:10 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| ccheney | doko_: yea, it seems to have broken between 3.1.1 and 3.2.0 | 17:42 |
| === jml is now known as joneaux | ||
| === joneaux is now known as jml | ||
| crimsun | hmm, we can't pass uids to su, correct? (e.g., sudo -u #foo) | 18:38 |
| crimsun | the man page at least implies that, but I could have sworn su allowed that. I guess it's my cruddy memory. | 18:39 |
| alkisg | crimsun: `su -c whoami username` ? | 18:44 |
| crimsun | whoami returns the username, though | 18:45 |
| slangasek | that's what you want | 18:45 |
| slangasek | you want something that /takes/ the uid and /returns/ the username, that you can pass to su :) | 18:46 |
| slangasek | (which whoami doesn't do, since it also only takes names as argumenst) | 18:46 |
| alkisg | su -c 'cd ~; pwd' angelos | 18:46 |
| alkisg | Just an example... | 18:46 |
| tlyu | grep :$targetuid: /etc/passwd | 18:46 |
| slangasek | alkisg: no | 18:46 |
| * alkisg didn't see all the convo... | 18:47 | |
| slangasek | crimsun: you want su $(getent passwd $uid | cut -f1 -d:) | 18:47 |
| slangasek | tlyu: also no; fails badly for other NSS backends | 18:47 |
| crimsun | slangasek: excellent, thanks. (BTW, this is to fix #498980) | 18:48 |
| slangasek | crimsun: I'm aware ;) | 18:49 |
| jpds | I wonder why 'sudo -u 1000 whoami' doesn't work. | 18:50 |
| crimsun | jpds: you need to use -u #1000 | 18:51 |
| slangasek | jpds: because a) using sudo for this is wrong, b) the entire point of the question is that you have a uid and you want to convert it to an argument you can pass to su | 18:51 |
| slangasek | so doing sudo to get the argument to pass to su would be doubly wrong ;) | 18:52 |
| jpds | crimsun: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/365332/ | 18:53 |
| jpds | slangasek: Just reading what the manpage says. :) | 18:53 |
| tlyu | jpds: try quoting the "#"? | 18:53 |
| jpds | Ah. | 18:53 |
| ari-tczew | wrrrrrr, any sponsor will work on merges for main before FFe? | 19:18 |
| asac | directhex: mono expert? any idea about: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38535766/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-armel.mono_2.4.3%2Bdfsg-1ubuntu1~asac1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ? | 19:24 |
| directhex | asac, fails on arm only? | 19:26 |
| asac | directhex: yes. i fixed the real build failure ... now i am getting this kind of crack ;) | 19:27 |
| asac | can i run make VERBOSE=1 or something to give a more verbose command line for the MSC? | 19:28 |
| asac | MCS | 19:28 |
| directhex | asac, erm... odd. 2.4.3+dfsg-1 built okay on arm on sid. | 19:28 |
| directhex | asac, well, it's claiming a bunch of source files are missing. that's about as verbose as it gets really | 19:29 |
| ogra | directhex, arm on sid is in no way optimized for anything :) | 19:29 |
| asac | yes. the build failure we got in archive is really because we are building for armv7 ... but that fixed (and i doubt that this is causing this) | 19:29 |
| asac | where are those .cs things supposed to come from? | 19:29 |
| asac | SerializationCallbacks.cs etc.? | 19:29 |
| asac | directhex: ? | 19:29 |
| ogra | directhex, we build ARMv7 with Thumb2 and NEON (where possible) thats far advanced beyond what debian does ... but narrows the supported HW | 19:29 |
| asac | thats more info than he needs ;) | 19:30 |
| ogra | directhex, sadly it exposes code problems where things are hardcoded that shouldnt be, like the issue asac initially fixed | 19:30 |
| ogra | asac, i just get tired to hear "but it built on sid" form people ... so i like to explain there is a big difference :) | 19:31 |
| asac | so i have | 19:31 |
| asac | ogra: yeah. ok | 19:31 |
| asac | mono-2.4.3+dfsg/mcs/class/corlib/System.Runtime.Serialization/SerializationCallbacks.cs | 19:31 |
| directhex | asac, the list of files to build is in /mcs/class/corlib/corlib.dll.sources | 19:31 |
| asac | thats in the source | 19:31 |
| asac | thats in there | 19:32 |
| directhex | asac, is there a porter box running the same hardware platform i can tinker with? | 19:32 |
| ogra | directhex, yes | 19:32 |
| asac | directhex: i can run commands for you | 19:32 |
| directhex | or an easy way to build a qemu environment | 19:32 |
| ogra | directhex, sadly mono is the one thing that doesnt work in qemu :( | 19:33 |
| * ogra would love to solve that but doesnt knoe how | 19:33 | |
| ogra | *know | 19:33 |
| asac | directhex: can i enable verbose biulding somehow? i would really like to see what the MCS line is | 19:33 |
| directhex | asac, i'll ask | 19:33 |
| asac | make VERBOSE=1 or something | 19:34 |
| ogra | could it be that there is just missing a path entry ? | 19:34 |
| asac | tanks | 19:34 |
| asac | thanks | 19:34 |
| asac | right. i assume there is something missing/wrong on the MCS command line | 19:34 |
| asac | but we dont see that ;) | 19:34 |
| ogra | yeah | 19:34 |
| directhex | ogra, i don't see what would differ on ARM on ubuntu compared to the rest, as far as that's concerned | 19:35 |
| ogra | directhex, you mean wrt qemu ? | 19:35 |
| ogra | or wrt our build flags | 19:35 |
| directhex | ogra, i mean causing the MCS error asac is seeing | 19:35 |
| directhex | CS2001 is a very odd thing to see | 19:36 |
| ogra | well, he changed the code to not use some embedded assmebler and use gcc atomics instead | 19:36 |
| asac | directhex: this is a second build run ... what is that about? | 19:36 |
| ogra | that could indeed change behavior and need further changes | 19:36 |
| asac | having VERBOSE would be nice ;) | 19:37 |
| directhex | asac, the second run is to run the full test suite. we brought that change in to, um, spot errors on arm | 19:37 |
| directhex | <rolf|bbl> directhex: make V=1 | 19:37 |
| directhex | <rolf|bbl> I think ;-) | 19:37 |
| asac | ogra: i doub tit ... either i did it wrong or right | 19:37 |
| asac | DreamThief: thx | 19:37 |
| asac | directhex: ^ | 19:37 |
| * asac runsit | 19:37 | |
| * directhex steals some dreams | 19:37 | |
| ogra | heh | 19:37 |
| directhex | build/rules.make:Q_MCS=$(if $(V),,@echo "MCS [$(PROFILE)] $(notdir $(@))";) | 19:38 |
| directhex | yes, i think V is it | 19:38 |
| directhex | (ARGH AUTOMAKE) | 19:39 |
| directhex | asac, can i see your arm fix btw? might upstream be interested? | 19:39 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/365373/ | 19:39 |
| asac | directhex: yes. upstream might want that... but first it needs to work ;) | 19:39 |
| asac | directhex: its in my armel1 ppa | 19:40 |
| asac | but i can give you the patch cat debian/patches/mono-arm-thumb2-ftbfs.dpatch | pastebinit | 19:40 |
| asac | cat debian/patches/mono-arm-thumb2-ftbfs.dpatch | pastebinit | 19:40 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f7fbe75c6 | 19:40 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f7fbe75c6 | 19:40 |
| asac | oops | 19:40 |
| asac | its not a perfect fix... would require configure.in patching and check | 19:40 |
| asac | for gcc atomics | 19:40 |
| asac | directhex: do you see that the comment properly specifies the search path somewhere? | 19:42 |
| asac | command | 19:42 |
| asac | sorry | 19:42 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/365373/ <- here | 19:42 |
| ogra | asac, did you check corlib.dll.sources proably there is a path variable in front of the files thats not set ? | 19:42 |
| asac | no | 19:43 |
| asac | all relative it seems | 19:43 |
| directhex | all relative | 19:43 |
| asac | questinon is to what ;) | 19:43 |
| directhex | @filename is used instead of a big list of crap on the command line | 19:43 |
| asac | to MONO_PATH? | 19:43 |
| asac | yeah | 19:44 |
| directhex | what's interesting here is there are 433 "missing" files but it's passed a list of 1453 | 19:46 |
| asac | maybe it just stops after X files complaining? | 19:46 |
| asac | or are there leaps? | 19:46 |
| directhex | it's stopping after 1020 lines | 19:47 |
| directhex | anything after System.Runtime.Serialization/SerializationBinder.cs | 19:47 |
| directhex | i find that interesting | 19:48 |
| asac | -d:BOOTSTRAP_WITH_OLDLIB | 19:50 |
| asac | what does that mean? | 19:50 |
| directhex | i think it's for bootstrapping a new version of a lib with an old version of itself | 19:51 |
| asac | hmm | 19:52 |
| asac | so specifying one of those files manually doesnt complain about it missing | 19:52 |
| directhex | in general though, i think people in gimpnet #monodev are likely to be far more knowledgeable than me | 19:52 |
| asac | yeah | 19:53 |
| asac | dont think will get to it today ... should go to bed for a strong travel date tomorrow | 19:53 |
| asac | thx | 19:57 |
| directhex | <vargaz> the problem with armv7 is that I can't even test it, cause qemu doesn't support it. | 20:02 |
| ogra | directhex, our qemu does | 20:04 |
| ogra | directhex, at least in usermode | 20:04 |
| directhex | ogra, but not for mono? | 20:04 |
| ogra | directhex, right | 20:05 |
| ogra | directhex, it angs hard when isntalling the assmeblies | 20:05 |
| ogra | *hangs | 20:05 |
| directhex | ogra, well, that could be a bug too? | 20:05 |
| directhex | ogra, is armv7 support patched into ubuntu? | 20:06 |
| ogra | more likely in qemu though | 20:06 |
| directhex | or is it in upstream qemu>? | 20:06 |
| ogra | mono works fine on real HW | 20:06 |
| ogra | directhex, apt-get install qemu-arm-static; sudo build-arm-chroot ... | 20:06 |
| directhex | hm | 20:06 |
| ogra | ogra@osiris:/var/build$ LANG=C sudo chroot lucid-test/ | 20:06 |
| ogra | root@osiris:/# uname -m | 20:06 |
| ogra | armv7l | 20:06 |
| ogra | directhex, feel free to play with it | 20:07 |
| ogra | build-arm-chroot takes exactly all argument debootstrap takes and creates you an arm chroot you can just use (thanks to binfmt) | 20:07 |
| asac | yes | 20:07 |
| asac | mono might take a bit to build there though | 20:08 |
| asac | (at least as long as native) | 20:08 |
| ogra | longer i guess | 20:08 |
| asac | for chromium it was smilar slow ... both took forever | 20:08 |
| asac | ;) | 20:08 |
| ogra | heh | 20:08 |
| ogra | ok, if the criteria is "forever" then it might be faster even :P | 20:08 |
| directhex | asac still exists? i thoguht you went to bed | 20:08 |
| * ogra bets he will meet a very tired asac on the plane tomorrow ... because he cant manage to sleep before he fixed that | 20:09 | |
| directhex | asac, basically, vargaz is eager to help, and he's the high overfiend of the runtime... so it's down to getting a testable encironment | 20:09 |
| directhex | ogra, is qemu-arm-static from lucid needed? | 20:10 |
| asac | directhex: most likely. but maybe it works in a lucid chroot (ogra knows) | 20:10 |
| ogra | try the karmic one, but i think thats only v6 | 20:10 |
| asac | ogra: haha. you are wrong. i cant sleep because i have to get up when i usually get to bed ;) | 20:10 |
| ogra | lol | 20:10 |
| ogra | i still havent packed ... i should probably start at some point :) | 20:11 |
| ogra | though my train only goes at 6:15 | 20:11 |
| asac | lucky you | 20:11 |
| asac | in wonder if i relaly need to be at airport earlier than 2h ahead ... i really doubt that | 20:11 |
| ogra | surely not for the inner german flight | 20:12 |
| asac | its the same security in hamburg | 20:12 |
| ogra | you will have to be in FFM 2h early | 20:12 |
| asac | and usually even 1.5h ahead was far too early | 20:12 |
| asac | on sat morning ;) | 20:13 |
| ogra | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ! | 20:18 |
| ogra | god that freenode stuff makes me mad | 20:18 |
| asac | does that mean anything else? | 20:18 |
| asac | the +r ? | 20:18 |
| directhex | asac, is there any way to get access to an ubuntuish arm box with the same odd cpu for someone at novell to look at? afaik he's using a sheevaplug usually to test linux/arm | 20:18 |
| * ogra has to manually log in to each and every channel ... and to log out from half of them to even change nick | 20:19 | |
| asac | directhex: someone from the team might be able to provide access | 20:19 |
| directhex | ogra, AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! is a fun game | 20:19 |
| asac | not on the porter boxes | 20:19 |
| asac | the qemu thing mentioned by ogra is good | 20:19 |
| ogra | yeah, if only mono would work :( | 20:19 |
| directhex | asac, the qemu thing emulates the same type of cpu? | 20:20 |
| asac | oh | 20:20 |
| asac | [pid 13649] open("System.Collections.Generic/Comparer.cs", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 EMFILE (Too many open files) | 20:20 |
| asac | [pid 13649] getcwd("/home/asac/mono/mono-2.4.3+dfsg/mcs/class/corlib", 261) = 49 | 20:20 |
| asac | [pid 13649] write(2, "error CS2001: Source file `Syste"..., 85error CS2001: Source file `System.Collections.Generic/Comparer.cs' could not be found) = 85 | 20:20 |
| directhex | asac, i wondered | 20:20 |
| asac | [pid 13649] write(2, "\n", 1 | 20:20 |
| asac | ) = 1 | 20:21 |
| asac | too many open files ;) | 20:21 |
| asac | hmm | 20:21 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/365390/ | 20:21 |
| asac | that explains it | 20:21 |
| asac | 1024 | 20:21 |
| directhex | i knew 1020 was a significant number | 20:21 |
| asac | ;) | 20:21 |
| directhex | oh for fecks sake... ulimit? | 20:21 |
| directhex | jeebus, man! fix0r that! | 20:21 |
| asac | right | 20:21 |
| asac | hehe | 20:21 |
| * asac is on it | 20:22 | |
| asac | ogra: ^^ | 20:22 |
| asac | see #is | 20:23 |
| ogra | yes, i see it | 20:23 |
| ogra | cant, i'm not in #is atm | 20:23 |
| asac | ok | 20:23 |
| asac | ;) | 20:23 |
| ogra | i thought the open files value would be raised automatically by the kernel | 20:23 |
| asac | on pegatron? | 20:23 |
| asac | ;) | 20:23 |
| ogra | well | 20:24 |
| ogra | heh | 20:24 |
| asac | its some kernel we dont know anything about ... so even if your theory is right, i wouldnt be shocked if it didnt work there | 20:24 |
| ogra | yeah | 20:24 |
| asac | where are my root powers :( | 20:25 |
| asac | directhex: anyway to do that in two chunks? | 20:25 |
| asac | ;) | 20:25 |
| asac | like catting all files together ;) | 20:26 |
| ogra | isnt lamont around to raise the ulimit ? | 20:26 |
| asac | ogra: lagger ;) | 20:29 |
| asac | no answer yet | 20:29 |
| ogra | heh | 20:30 |
| asac | too bad that it failed in my native ppa too | 20:30 |
| asac | otherwise there would have been hope :) | 20:30 |
| ogra | he might be in travel prepartion too | 20:31 |
| ogra | or even in the air | 20:31 |
| asac | i doubt it | 20:32 |
| asac | ogra: you are right . arrival= today | 20:32 |
| ogra | he is supposed to arrive toda | 20:32 |
| ogra | y | 20:32 |
| ogra | indeed, i looked before speaking ;) | 20:32 |
| asac | is there any backup for him? | 20:32 |
| ogra | no idea | 20:33 |
| wind-rider | hi | 20:33 |
| ogra | ping the channel | 20:33 |
| ogra | and hope for a reply ;) | 20:33 |
| wind-rider | can i ask a question about how packages depend on each other here? | 20:33 |
| ogra | wind-rider, #ubuntu-motu would probably be better for that | 20:33 |
| wind-rider | ogra: ok | 20:34 |
| directhex | asac, the build system is already freaky enough... raising ulimit is the sensible thing to do | 20:36 |
| ogra | asac, tesbuil on your babbage ? | 20:36 |
| ogra | Ütestbuild | 20:36 |
| asac | directhex: was that done in a different way before? | 20:44 |
| asac | wonder why it built in karmic | 20:44 |
| asac | ogra: packed up ... and sd card isnt ready ;) ... | 20:44 |
| asac | i am quite sure its only this | 20:45 |
| ogra | ah | 20:45 |
| ogra | well, mine is packed up as well ... | 20:45 |
| asac | heh | 20:45 |
| directhex | asac, there are very very few differences from karmic. mono in lucid is a bugfix release in the same branch | 20:45 |
| ogra | my HW is the only stuff i have readily packed .... | 20:45 |
| ogra | who needs undrewear | 20:45 |
| asac | directhex: right. but that compile line? maybe it was broken in multiple files? | 20:46 |
| directhex | asac, doubtful. change in the buildd's limits.conf ? | 20:46 |
| directhex | wait, 1024 is what i have here? @_@ | 20:47 |
| directhex | oddness | 20:47 |
| asac | or mcs now keeps files open longer for speed up etc? | 20:47 |
| directhex | 1453 mono-2.4.2.3+dfsg/mcs/class/corlib/corlib.dll.sources | 20:47 |
| directhex | yeah, maybe resource leakage | 20:48 |
| ogra | as i said, usually the limit is automatically raised by the kernel | 20:49 |
| ogra | but that kernel on the arm buildds is odd | 20:49 |
| directhex | oh... kernel weirdness then? | 20:49 |
| ogra | not sure | 20:50 |
| ogra | i guess we need to verify on a proper lucid system | 20:50 |
| ogra | which we currently all have teared down | 20:50 |
| ogra | for traveling | 20:50 |
| asac | well. we know that it happens on jocote and on one native arm builder | 20:56 |
| ogra | oh, did you upload already ? | 20:59 |
| ogra | ah, p3a | 20:59 |
| asac | p1a? | 21:02 |
| asac | yes. maybe i will upload and drop a line to lamont asking to give it back when he is done | 21:03 |
| === arand_ is now known as arand | ||
| ScottK | slangasek: Would you have a moment to look at the proposed fix in bug 508073 . It's an important fix for Kubuntu, but I'm totally unfamiliar with the package. | 21:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 508073 in acpid "pressing power button in kde shuts down computer immediately" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/508073 | 21:50 |
| slangasek | ScottK: oh, yes; have looked at the fix, it's correct, apologies for the broken upload | 22:14 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Cool. Will you please sponsor. I'm just running out the door. | 22:14 |
| slangasek | yes, will do | 22:14 |
| ScottK | Thanks | 22:14 |
| === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl | ||
| mr_pouit | mathiaz: mmh, you mean, completely delete server & server-ship? | 22:36 |
| mathiaz | mr_pouit: yes | 22:36 |
| mr_pouit | I only dropped 'nis' from both | 22:36 |
| mr_pouit | ah ok | 22:36 |
| mr_pouit | I'll do this then | 22:36 |
| mathiaz | mr_pouit: IIUC these files are there because xubuntu seeds were branched from the ubuntu.seeds | 22:36 |
| mathiaz | mr_pouit: and thus server and server-ship have been around since then | 22:37 |
| mathiaz | mr_pouit: I don't think that there is a xubuntu server version? | 22:37 |
| mr_pouit | no | 22:37 |
| mr_pouit | but Im' not sure. Isn't ship used for the alternate iso? | 22:38 |
| mathiaz | mr_pouit: well - is there an alternate xubuntu image? | 22:38 |
| mathiaz | mr_pouit: I'm refering to *server* and *server-ship* | 22:39 |
| mr_pouit | ah, ok. There's no 'server' file, that's why I was confused ^^ | 22:39 |
| mr_pouit | okay, only server-ship | 22:39 |
| mr_pouit | I'll drop it | 22:39 |
| mathiaz | mr_pouit: great thanks | 22:40 |
| mr_pouit | I guess all the *-server can go as well? | 22:40 |
| crimsun | mathiaz: do you plan to push your alsa-driver changes to bzr? | 22:41 |
| mathiaz | crimsun: hm - I thought I did | 22:41 |
| mathiaz | crimsun: arghh - different rich root support | 22:42 |
| mathiaz | crimsun: that's why I can push back to lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/alsa-driver/ubuntu.new/ | 22:43 |
| mathiaz | crimsun: *cannot* | 22:43 |
| crimsun | mathiaz: hmm, okay | 22:44 |
| mathiaz | crimsun: let me fix that | 22:44 |
| mr_pouit | bzr is so inefficient with its 2343874638746 formats :} | 22:44 |
| mathiaz | crimsun: there - done | 22:48 |
| crimsun | mathiaz: thanks! | 22:49 |
| Incubuss | anyone willing to test a bug for me? I'm running Alpha 2 and tried to log into a guest session but it didn't work and left me with a blank screen (thats not the bug though) | 22:57 |
| Incubuss | so I hit atrl + alt + F1 and logged in and restarted X | 22:57 |
| Incubuss | when I came back found that everything I had typed had been sent over pidgin to the last person I was talking to... | 22:58 |
| ccheney | fsck it appears win7 ate my system | 23:59 |
| ccheney | it messed with the partition table and now i can't boot the system properly | 23:59 |
| ccheney | er into lucid at all really it appears to just hang | 23:59 |
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