| === IdleOne_ is now known as IdleOne | ||
| doctormo | pleia2: what's that website you use to choose dates and time for meetings? | 01:10 |
|---|---|---|
| pleia2 | doodle.com | 01:10 |
| doctormo | pleia2: I can't figure out how to use the website | 01:12 |
| pleia2 | hang on, on a call | 01:13 |
| doctormo | sos | 01:14 |
| cprofitt | pleia2: | 02:10 |
| cprofitt | doctormo: you there? | 02:13 |
| * pleia2 on marathon conference call | 02:17 | |
| cprofitt | pleia2: -- when off just hollar | 02:19 |
| pleia2 | will do :) | 02:22 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: yes | 02:28 |
| cprofitt | hey doctormo I am looking for a suggestion | 02:28 |
| cprofitt | which course, of yours, would transfer well to Moodle? | 02:28 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: The command line basics or the computer hardware would go well. | 02:29 |
| cprofitt | do you have links so I can check them out? | 02:29 |
| doctormo | Ubuntu Wiki | 02:33 |
| doctormo | Search: | 02:33 |
| doctormo | * Logged in as doctormo | 02:33 |
| doctormo | * Log Out | 02:33 |
| doctormo | * Ubuntu | 02:33 |
| doctormo | * Community | 02:33 |
| doctormo | * Support | 02:33 |
| doctormo | * Partners | 02:33 |
| doctormo | * Wiki | 02:33 |
| doctormo | * Planet | 02:34 |
| doctormo | * Ubuntu Team Wiki | 02:34 |
| doctormo | * Lernid/Session Leaders | 02:34 |
| doctormo | * humphreybc | 02:34 |
| doctormo | * Marketing | 02:34 |
| cprofitt | ? | 02:34 |
| doctormo | * SystemAdminTopics | 02:34 |
| doctormo | * User Preferences | 02:34 |
| doctormo | * Find Page | 02:34 |
| doctormo | * Edit | 02:34 |
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| doctormo | * Learning/SystemAdminTopics | 02:34 |
| doctormo | systems-admin.png | 02:34 |
| doctormo | damn sorry | 02:34 |
| doctormo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/SystemAdminTopics | 02:34 |
| doctormo | I tried to paste a link and instead it pasted the entire header of the page | 02:34 |
| cprofitt | http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/ubuntu-system-admin-class-command-line-basics/ | 02:35 |
| cprofitt | is that one? | 02:35 |
| doctormo | yep | 02:35 |
| doctormo | ans the "local computer" one | 02:35 |
| pleia2 | I am putting the local computer one into bzr | 02:36 |
| pleia2 | then I think moodle | 02:36 |
| cprofitt | ok... I will take a look at the command line then | 02:36 |
| doctormo | pleia2: great | 02:36 |
| pleia2 | ran the script to create the structure in bzr last night, started filling in the easy bits to my branch | 02:37 |
| doctormo | pleia2: That's fantastic, let me know how you get on. | 02:58 |
| pleia2 | ok, finally off the phone! | 03:12 |
| pleia2 | I'm writing a CourseAssignment page to describe how people select courses for assignment | 03:39 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/CourseAssignment | 03:55 |
| pleia2 | now hopefully I won't need to explain it again :) | 03:55 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Your a command line goddess right? I need to somehow check if a PROJECTS= exists in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults and then add a line to it if it doesn't. | 13:31 |
| pleia2 | I'd just use grep | 13:32 |
| pleia2 | then perl | 13:32 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Doesn't it require the use of a bash if statement? | 13:32 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 13:32 |
| cprofitt | doc -- what development environment do you use? | 13:32 |
| doctormo | I'll be honest, I'm not very good with bash if statements | 13:33 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: gnome-terminal + vim | 13:33 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: I'm on the phone with a client, give me 10min and I'll have something for you :) | 13:33 |
| cprofitt | so how do you make your GUI elements? | 13:33 |
| cprofitt | doctormo: how do you make your GUI elements? | 13:43 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: | 13:43 |
| pleia2 | if ! grep -q '^PROJECTS=' /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults; then echo 'PROJECTS=blahblah' >> /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults | 13:43 |
| pleia2 | fi | 13:43 |
| pleia2 | I'd do a line break between "then" and "echo" | 13:44 |
| pleia2 | silly irssi paste | 13:44 |
| pleia2 | so - if a line starting with "PROJECTS=" doesn't exist, it appends a "PROJECTS=blahblah" line to the end of the file | 13:44 |
| doctormo | Wow it's laundry mountin time today. | 13:49 |
| doctormo | Thanks pleia2! | 13:49 |
| pleia2 | sure thing | 13:49 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: Oh I use glade-3 with gtkBuilder | 13:49 |
| cprofitt | thanks... I finally trying to get started with programming | 13:50 |
| cprofitt | but figuring out which tools I want to use has been frustrating | 13:50 |
| cprofitt | it is not as 'easy' as using Visual Studio ... though I suspect when I finally get everything set I will be more rewarded (personal) | 13:51 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: I've used Vidual Studio, so I can give you a comparison, I've also used Eclipse. | 13:52 |
| cprofitt | a comparison would be great. | 13:52 |
| cprofitt | Eclipse seemed FUBAR in Ubuntu | 13:52 |
| cprofitt | unless I wanted to do Java | 13:52 |
| doctormo | Eclipse has no maintainer in Ubuntu, so yes, fairly craptastic, it's also slow, buggy and not designed for python, perl or C | 13:54 |
| doctormo | Although I did manage to get the python and bzr plugins working | 13:54 |
| doctormo | Visual Studio is a fairly good all contained system, but it seemed to block or naturally make invisible external functionality. | 13:54 |
| doctormo | It also sets a fairly strict path that leads to windows only results, so people develing in VS end up with windows only applications. | 13:55 |
| doctormo | Even if they program in C or iron python. | 13:55 |
| doctormo | What you might be interested in, is Quickly, it's about getting all the tools together to start a project the right way and then lets you develop it how ever you want. | 13:56 |
| doctormo | Best practices, but not forcing you into things. | 13:56 |
| cprofitt | Yeah... that would help | 14:06 |
| cprofitt | I am planning to learn Python, Lisp (J) and C | 14:06 |
| cprofitt | so getting up to speed on how to create a GUI and then connect code to it would be a big help | 14:06 |
| cprofitt | MS Visual Studio obsfucates that process | 14:06 |
| mhall119|work | Quickly is definitely something to look into then | 14:08 |
| === doctormo_ is now known as doctormo | ||
| paultag | pleia2, poke :) | 17:02 |
| paultag | pleia2, did you hear about nigel ? | 17:02 |
| pleia2 | paultag: morning | 17:02 |
| doctormo | paultag: poky | 17:03 |
| paultag | 's idea* | 17:03 |
| paultag | pleia2, Morning! | 17:03 |
| paultag | Hey there doctormo | 17:03 |
| pleia2 | paultag: classroom stuff? | 17:03 |
| doctormo | paultag: I didn't, tell me | 17:03 |
| paultag | pleia2, aye, Python + -dev | 17:03 |
| paultag | doctormo, nigel wanted to start a python series from the dev team | 17:03 |
| pleia2 | paultag: yeah it's great, feel free to pick any time, as I told nigel this morning the only thing we have on the schdeule at the moment is the motu things on thursdays https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training | 17:03 |
| paultag | and he asked me to talk with you pleia2 about scheduling it | 17:03 |
| paultag | pleia2, Cool. I'll get some members to prepare, then we can work a few in | 17:04 |
| pleia2 | great :) | 17:04 |
| IdleOne | is ubuntu-desktop still recommended to be installed when upgrading to newer version of Ubuntu? I remember it used to cause issues if not installed | 17:04 |
| paultag | doctormo, I watched your video demo, I mentioned it the other day. Looks rad | 17:04 |
| doctormo | paultag: It's good all the positive responses it's gotten, I'm glad people can see it being useful outside of this project. | 17:08 |
| paultag | doctormo, aye | 17:09 |
| pleia2 | paultag: also, you're welcome to join us over in #ubuntu-classroom-backstage where we're doing all the -classroom planning | 17:13 |
| pleia2 | since, you know, you're not in enough channels already | 17:14 |
| paultag | hahaha | 17:17 |
| paultag | I've been maxing out lately | 17:17 |
| cprofitt | woot, RMS will be coming to Rochester | 17:18 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: What for? | 17:19 |
| paultag | cprofitt, my buddy is there | 17:21 |
| paultag | doctormo, RIT | 17:21 |
| paultag | he is talking to the school | 17:21 |
| doctormo | cool | 17:21 |
| paultag | I'm jealous | 17:21 |
| cprofitt | Yes... he will be at RIT | 17:21 |
| cprofitt | the only real issue is that it will be during the day | 17:22 |
| cprofitt | so... parking will be an issue and I have to take the day off | 17:23 |
| cprofitt | I got asked about speaking at FOSSVT too... | 17:23 |
| cprofitt | I need to get the details, but I may do that. | 17:23 |
| jcastro | can someone op maco in #classroom? She's taking over seele's class | 18:05 |
| paultag | jcastro, what do you need? | 18:17 |
| paultag | jcastro, the flags for ubuntu/member/* are +o, you should be able to op | 18:17 |
| jcastro | oh | 18:17 |
| paultag | jcastro, :) | 18:17 |
| paultag | jcastro, well done :) | 18:17 |
| jcastro | whoo! | 18:17 |
| jcastro | I did it! | 18:18 |
| paultag | jcastro, w00t! :) 'grats :) | 18:18 |
| cprofitt | he jcastro | 18:37 |
| jcastro | howdy cprofitt | 18:40 |
| cprofitt | jcastro: has anyone from #fosscon contacted you yet? | 18:45 |
| jcastro | yeah I have the mail sitting in my inbox | 18:45 |
| cprofitt | Nice. | 18:45 |
| * jcastro will reply today | 18:45 | |
| cprofitt | I got invited to speak at FOSSVT... | 18:45 |
| jcastro | I am on the cusp of inbox zero! | 18:45 |
| cprofitt | I have to look in to the specifics... but I am going to try to make it | 18:46 |
| cprofitt | woah... inbox 0 | 18:46 |
| cprofitt | I have not seen that myself since day 0 of email | 18:46 |
| cprofitt | jcastro: are you familiar with FOSSVT? | 18:46 |
| jcastro | nope | 18:46 |
| jcastro | I've been to vermont to talk about oss before with matt oquist and another guy | 18:48 |
| jcastro | they run an .edu style oss conference up there | 18:48 |
| cprofitt | http://www.ncose.org/node/47 | 18:48 |
| doctormo | jcastro: Interesting, I go up there quite often | 18:48 |
| jcastro | oh dude, FOSSED | 18:48 |
| cprofitt | its part of NCOSE | 18:48 |
| jcastro | I've been to that one | 18:48 |
| cprofitt | yeh... FOSSED is another one | 18:48 |
| cprofitt | I am going to try to go to that one | 18:48 |
| cprofitt | FOSSVT is another one of theirs. | 18:49 |
| cprofitt | FOSSED is in Main - so it is a bit futher away | 18:49 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: Is it worth going to FOSSVT? | 18:49 |
| cprofitt | doctormo: not sure... not seen much on it... | 18:49 |
| cprofitt | the Excutive director of NCOSE asked if I was interested in presenting | 18:50 |
| cprofitt | Bryant Patten | 18:50 |
| cprofitt | He spoke at OSSCON this past year | 18:50 |
| cprofitt | and Open Edge | 18:51 |
| cprofitt | Open Edge is in Australia | 18:51 |
| cprofitt | I am trying to decide if I want to keep my domain name charlesprofitt.com or go to a new one | 18:52 |
| cprofitt | jcastro: how many events do you attend a year? | 18:53 |
| jcastro | cprofitt: usually ohio linuxfest, ontario linuxfest and penguicon | 18:53 |
| cprofitt | penguincon -- where is that? | 18:54 |
| jcastro | detroit | 18:54 |
| cprofitt | are you close to use jcastro ? | 18:54 |
| jcastro | I am in detroit | 18:54 |
| cprofitt | Nice. | 18:54 |
| cprofitt | I mentored a guy who dropped out of HS and ended up being a sports writer covering the Lions | 18:55 |
| cprofitt | I forget what his name is.... | 18:55 |
| cprofitt | that is bad... forgetting his name. | 18:56 |
| cprofitt | doctormo: would you be interested in going to either FOSSVT or FOSSED? | 18:58 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: I would | 19:00 |
| doctormo | VT is very near by, also near in heart. | 19:00 |
| cprofitt | Cool... when I get more information I will pass it on to you. | 19:00 |
| cprofitt | Perhaps we could both present... | 19:00 |
| cprofitt | and wear the FOSS/Ubuntu colors | 19:00 |
| doctormo | Sounds good, I have lots to talk about. | 19:04 |
| nigel_nb | hello :) | 19:20 |
| doctormo | hey nigel_nb | 19:21 |
| nigel_nb | hey doctormo | 19:21 |
| nigel_nb | sorry I couldn't talk yday | 19:21 |
| doctormo | np | 19:21 |
| nigel_nb | got back from work really late | 19:21 |
| nigel_nb | ground control is great, now i have to factor it in to my course | 19:22 |
| nigel_nb | doctormo: I have something else that might interest you | 19:22 |
| cprofitt | hey dinda | 19:22 |
| nigel_nb | doctormo: arent you in boston? | 19:23 |
| doctormo | nigel_nb: I am | 19:24 |
| nigel_nb | doctormo: http://mairin.wordpress.com/category/inkscape-class/ | 19:25 |
| nigel_nb | doctormo: its an inkscape class taken by a fedora art member in some boston area school.. the training is sponsered by red hat | 19:25 |
| cprofitt | nigel_nb: you making use of the existing inkscape course in Moodle? | 19:25 |
| nigel_nb | cprofitt: didnt check yet, but we have now a partly written course for inkscape in terms of text, which may be rewritten | 19:26 |
| cprofitt | http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=6 | 19:26 |
| cprofitt | we already have a Moodle cours (have for months) that covers Inkscape, Gimp and Scribus | 19:27 |
| nigel_nb | oh, great :) | 19:27 |
| cprofitt | it just needs to be x-fered to the asciidoc format | 19:27 |
| nigel_nb | ah | 19:27 |
| nigel_nb | my bzr course is due | 19:27 |
| nigel_nb | I have to finish it by end of next week | 19:27 |
| sonny | I'm not learning much! | 22:17 |
| cjohnston | lol | 22:22 |
| cjohnston | wow.. 3 minutes | 22:22 |
| Pendulum | not even. he expected to learn in 1 ;) | 22:24 |
| cjohnston | i want to learn something | 22:24 |
| cjohnston | like more about the back of my eyelids | 22:24 |
| Pendulum | heh | 22:25 |
| pleia2 | btw, blogged about the project: http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=2481 | 22:29 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Fantasdtic! | 22:39 |
| doctormo | *hugs* you've been doing a brilliant job of powering on with some documentation for the project, much needed. | 22:40 |
| pleia2 | *hugs*! :) | 22:40 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 22:40 |
| doctormo | pleia2: How would I loop through 3 set strings in bash? | 23:19 |
| doctormo | Ah I found it | 23:22 |
| Edgar1 | Hello anyone and everyone | 23:38 |
| Edgar1 | I would like to join in the Ubuntu Learning Course. | 23:38 |
| pleia2 | welcome Edgar1 :) | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | interested in writing a course? | 23:47 |
| Edgar1 | not sure of what I can write of. I could be a translator but more than english may not be something important yet | 23:48 |
| Edgar1 | Im a web developer and have sometime using ubuntu(almost a year) | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | cool, we will need translations eventually | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | do you think you could do some review work? | 23:49 |
| Edgar1 | thats cool, yes i think :) | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | great :) | 23:49 |
| Edgar1 | how and when can I start? | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | well, there are a couple of folks writing classes now that will need to be reviewed soon | 23:50 |
| Edgar1 | ok i see | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | right at this moment... mostly we're looking for people to write things | 23:51 |
| pleia2 | once we have something for review, we'll post it to our mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-learning | 23:52 |
| Edgar1 | mmm well, i dont know if its needed but i can write about web development in Ubuntu, anyway there are some pages that contain that information | 23:52 |
| pleia2 | like programs you can use for web development, or? | 23:52 |
| Edgar1 | yeah programs that have some relation for use in php and apache, programs written in C and can be used in php | 23:53 |
| Edgar1 | stuff like that | 23:53 |
| Edgar1 | also configurating MySQL could be something | 23:53 |
| pleia2 | hmm, trying to think of where this would fit | 23:54 |
| pleia2 | the configuring mysql and apache things would probably be under maintaining: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/SystemAdminTopics | 23:55 |
| pleia2 | programming stuff would be under development: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/DeveloperTopics | 23:55 |
| pleia2 | if you check out the SystemAdminTopics page there is a section we need covered called: "Web Hosting, apache, php, MySQL, .." | 23:56 |
| pleia2 | what you'd probably want to do for something like that is take https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP and put it into our CourseLayout format | 23:57 |
| Edgar1 | ok, i'll see that now. I have suscribed to the mailing-list | 23:57 |
| pleia2 | great :) | 23:58 |
| pleia2 | feel free to take your time, it's a big project so it can be a bit overwhelming at first | 23:58 |
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