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| * slangasek waves | 15:55 | |
| ttx | o/ | 15:55 |
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| pitti | o/ | 15:59 |
| * JFo waves at slangasek | 15:59 | |
| * marjo waves | 15:59 | |
| * JFo will do his best not to dump useless info in the middle of the meeting today :-) | 16:00 | |
| * asac waves | 16:01 | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| slangasek | robbiew, Riddell, apw, njpatel, jdstrand: ping | 16:02 |
| njpatel | hey | 16:02 |
| * apw zones in | 16:02 | |
| jdstrand | o/ | 16:02 |
| robbiew | he | 16:02 |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 16:02 |
| MootBot | slangasek, There is already a meeting in progress. | 16:02 |
| robbiew | hey | 16:02 |
| Riddell | hi | 16:02 |
| slangasek | MootBot: lies | 16:03 |
| robbiew | lol | 16:03 |
| robbiew | #endmeeting | 16:03 |
| apw | #endmeeting | 16:03 |
| ttx | now that was short | 16:03 |
| robbiew | #endthef'ingmeeting! lol | 16:03 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-01-29 | 16:03 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-01-29 | 16:03 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Actions from previous meetings | 16:04 |
| slangasek | * davidbarth to review cross-team assignments for dx specs and contact right people (DONE) | 16:04 |
| slangasek | * apw to fix up state of bug #458537 to reflect reality | 16:04 |
| slangasek | * asac and ScottK to review the plan for xulrunner demotion and present the resolution at the next meeting | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 458537 in linux-fsl-imx51 "[armel imx51] hibernate does not work" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/458537 | 16:04 |
| apw | slangasek, that one is closed, so done | 16:04 |
| slangasek | excellent | 16:04 |
| asac | slangasek: so I didnt review the xulrunner demotion with scottk yet. | 16:04 |
| slangasek | asac: ok - this coming week, then? | 16:04 |
| asac | wanted to first have the short list of suggested rdepends ready. | 16:05 |
| asac | i hope so ... but there is sprint ;) | 16:05 |
| asac | but should be doable | 16:05 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:05 | |
| slangasek | ok, now we've got a few changes in the presentation order today, because of some schedule conflicts... see the wiki page if you're easily startled by change :-) | 16:06 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Server Team | 16:06 |
| ttx | Thanks ! | 16:06 |
| ttx | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:07 |
| ttx | Alpha3-targeted bugs: | 16:07 |
| ttx | A few MIR that are well in progress now | 16:07 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:07 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:07 |
| ttx | Except one that still needs review (seabios) | 16:07 |
| ttx | bug 508870 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 508870 in qemu-kvm "[MIR] seabios" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/508870 | 16:07 |
| ttx | Progress is expected on the eucalyptus bugs, since we'll be with Dan Nurmi of Eucalyptus next week | 16:08 |
| slangasek | (is it an ill-tempered seabios?) | 16:08 |
| ttx | Specs: | 16:08 |
| ttx | Only 2 < 25% in the Essential/High area: | 16:09 |
| ttx | server-lucid-uec-testing (9%) | 16:09 |
| ttx | This one was blocked on basic infrastructure access, but now mathias has access to a working UEC there (since yesterday) | 16:09 |
| ttx | So this is unblocked and should go smooth now. | 16:09 |
| ttx | One installer bug still prevents automatic install | 16:09 |
| ttx | We'll mention it later in the buglist-from-other-teams section | 16:10 |
| ttx | server-lucid-ec2-config (0%) | 16:10 |
| ttx | This is closely linked to the boothooks spec. Considering the two, global completion rate is 50% | 16:10 |
| ttx | Bugs affecting server, in other teams: | 16:10 |
| ttx | bug 512592 | 16:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 512592 in debian-installer "[Lucid] console-setup-udeb succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512592 | 16:10 |
| ttx | This one is impacting us, no assignee last time I looked | 16:11 |
| ttx | I targeted it to alpha3 | 16:11 |
| ttx | bug 510130 | 16:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 510130 in linux-ec2 "ec2 instance fails to boot if registered without ramdisk" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510130 | 16:11 |
| ttx | This one is the next-in-list for the ramdiskless support on cloud images | 16:11 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: who should take 512592, you or ev? | 16:11 |
| ttx | also targeted to alpha3, and on jjohansen's plate. | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | ev, I'll cover it in my slot anyway | 16:12 |
| ttx | In other news, I think you got bug 506297 under control | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 506297 in plymouth "Graphical Ubuntu logo enabled on servers, no more login prompt" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506297 | 16:12 |
| ttx | That's all from me... Questions ? | 16:12 |
| slangasek | yes, 506297 just blocked on sorting an unrelated plymouth issue w/ Keybuk before uploading | 16:12 |
| slangasek | no questions here; anyone else? | 16:12 |
| ttx | Ah, another thing | 16:12 |
| ttx | server-lucid-eucalyptus-merging-and-packaging is at 44%, but new work items are expected today | 16:13 |
| ttx | maybe not enough to make it fall <25%, but... | 16:13 |
| ttx | kirkland is sdoing a pass on the bug list to nominate alpha3 targets | 16:13 |
| ttx | so we should have a better view on the work left in that spec next week. | 16:14 |
| ttx | That's really all for me now :) | 16:14 |
| slangasek | ok, thanks :) | 16:14 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Foundations Team | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | Targeted bugs: | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | bug 512592 - believed to be fixed as of last night's debian-installer upload (and ev has closed this now); please report recurrences | 16:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 512592 in debian-installer "[Lucid] console-setup-udeb succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512592 | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | bug 477104 - fixed upstream, will deal with testing for karmic at sprint | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 477104 in grub2 "After 9.10 grub update can not boot into Wubi install" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/477104 | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | various plymouth-related issues to be resolved at sprint (bug 506709, bug 500198, bug 506418) | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 506709 in unattended-upgrades "Should inform user if running during shutdown/reboot process" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506709 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 500198 in casper "casper-md5check needs to be ported to plymouth" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500198 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 506418 in casper "[lucid] live cd does not shutdown" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506418 | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | Feature work: | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | foundations-lucid-gfxboot-update: still blocked on DX, on sprint agenda (cjwatson/bratsche) | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | foundations-lucid-software-center-repository-based-index/foundations-lucid-index-based-downloads-client: server/client pair between Soyuz and mvo; substantial work involved, may be difficult to land, at risk | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | foundations-lucid-boot-experience: just kdm to go; should this be tracked by desktop at this point? | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | foundations-lucid-reliable-device-id-in-grub: further along than it looks from the completion rate; code is in a branch/PPA and should be finished off at the sprint | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | foundations-lucid-supportable-binaries: ScottK said last week that our volunteer disappeared, so I've put this on our sprint agenda | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | foundations-lucid-fix-iscsi-root: having a hard time getting a response from one of the bug reporters here, but once cjwatson completes the discussion with QA it should be relatively easy to flush this out | 16:15 |
| * ttx suspects cjwatson of cheating, nobody types that fast. | 16:15 | |
| pitti | cjwatson: remaining foundations-lucid-boot-experience WI is on our radar | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | ttx: cheating in this way is positively encouraged in the release meeting :-) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | pitti: good, thanks | 16:16 |
| pitti | ttx: I wish there was teh reading counterpart of copy&paste :) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | (done, anyway) | 16:17 |
| * robbiew assumes (and hopes) the daily boot charting will resume once Keybuk returns next week? | 16:17 | |
| cjwatson | it might be the week after since Keybuk won't be at home - not sure | 16:18 |
| slangasek | robbiew: given that Keybuk's return next week is to Portland, not England, I'm not sure it will | 16:18 |
| pitti | in the meantime, http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/bootcharts/ has my daily measuring and experiments | 16:18 |
| slangasek | Reboots were Needful | 16:18 |
| robbiew | bah! | 16:18 |
| robbiew | okay | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | oh, and I'm going to shift 506418's milestone up to alpha-3, to go with the other similar plymouth-related bugs | 16:18 |
| pitti | it's not Scott's nicely automated one, though | 16:18 |
| pitti | setting that up is on desktop team's sprint agenda (sit down with Scott) | 16:18 |
| * ogra doesnt reboot daily but has an awesomly fast boot to report | 16:19 | |
| pitti | ogra: 10 s! | 16:19 |
| ogra | yeah ! | 16:19 |
| ogra | 3 to X | 16:19 |
| ogra | i'll show off with it at the sprint :) | 16:19 |
| * apw wants to see that | 16:19 | |
| slangasek | any questions for foundations? | 16:20 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: do mvo's at-risk specs require any follow-up at this point? | 16:20 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Kernel Team | 16:21 |
| * slangasek takes that out-of-band | 16:21 | |
| slangasek | cjwatson: thanks | 16:21 |
| slangasek | apw: hi | 16:21 |
| apw | yo | 16:22 |
| apw | Overall Kernel Team status is summarised at the first URL below, including the items called out in the agenda. The bulk of the items pushed out from Alpha-2 are now done, with one minor item for Apparmor having completed in part (and split into two items). We remain above the line on our burn-down chart dispite a number of items completing, in part this is due to the linking of bugs to blueprints bringing outstanding work to light. We will be | 16:22 |
| apw | reviewing this at the platform sprint to determine if we need to push out any items. Remaining items for Alpha-3 are at the second URL below: | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: I think there's probably no value in following up right now vs. Monday | 16:22 |
| apw | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid | 16:22 |
| apw | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid#Milestone%20lucid-alpha-3 | 16:22 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid | 16:22 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid#Milestone%20lucid-alpha-3 | 16:22 |
| apw | We now have a linux-backports-module package containing a Nouveau backport available in PPA for testing, preliminary testing is encouraging; evaluation planned for next week. Suspend-resume testing images are close to completion (planned for use at SCALE), images should be available next week for early testers. Work on the ubuntu-delta has been slow this week, but we still expect to hit alpha-3. The two bugs called out both require re-testin | 16:22 |
| apw | g (which is pending) as we have shipped major updates to those kernels. | 16:22 |
| apw | The distro kernel is now pulled up to v2.6.32.6 and is looking pretty stable in testing, the disabling of i915.powersave has improved user experience dramatically; we are expecting fixes in this area via -stable shortly. The fsl-imx51 arm branch gained a large update to the BSP from Freescale which is now in the archive. The mvl-dove updated v2.6.32 based BSP branch is now also in the archive. | 16:22 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: indeed | 16:22 |
| apw | <done> ... and thanks for bumping me up | 16:22 |
| * ttx disappears for last minute packing and traincatching | 16:23 | |
| slangasek | any questions for kernel? | 16:24 |
| pitti | apw: is nouveau still realistic for alpha-3? | 16:25 |
| pitti | apw: this is a "alpha-3 or lucid+1" kind of change, I think | 16:25 |
| apw | we have a working nouveau backport it seems, some testing etc to do next week to confirm that on more h/w | 16:25 |
| pitti | sweet | 16:26 |
| slangasek | great | 16:26 |
| apw | the plan is to evaluate and discuss next week, your input would be appreciated | 16:26 |
| slangasek | the "or lucid+1" option isn't very appealing | 16:26 |
| pitti | slangasek: well, I'm not that hot on enabling this late, like in beta-2 | 16:26 |
| marjo | pitti: +1 | 16:26 |
| apw | and any nvidia h/w you have with you could you let me and bryce know | 16:26 |
| pitti | it would be awesome to get, but we should get it early for maximum testing | 16:27 |
| marjo | slangasek: why "lucid +1" not appealing? | 16:27 |
| slangasek | pitti: I agree with you that enabling it post-alpha3 is too late | 16:27 |
| pitti | apw: too bad that most of us have intel graphics in their laptops nowadays.. | 16:27 |
| pitti | (for the sprint) | 16:27 |
| pitti | but we can try some hotel computers with an USB stick | 16:27 |
| pitti | (half serious) | 16:27 |
| apw | slangasek, i want the decision next week based on whether we can test and deliver for A-3 | 16:27 |
| slangasek | marjo: because kms support is dependent on nouveau, and the non-kms boot experience is well sub-par | 16:27 |
| pitti | apw: sounds great | 16:28 |
| slangasek | apw: understood | 16:28 |
| marjo | slangasek: ok, will follow up w/ pgraner & rickspencer3 | 16:28 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] QA Team | 16:28 |
| slangasek | apw: thanks | 16:28 |
| marjo | HW Testing | 16:28 |
| marjo | http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html | 16:28 |
| marjo | Netbooks: | 16:28 |
| marjo | Passed: 9 (69%) Failed: 3 (23%) Untested: 1 ( 8%) | 16:28 |
| marjo | Laptops: | 16:28 |
| marjo | Passed: 22 (85%) Failed: 1 ( 4%) Untested: 3 (11%) | 16:28 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html | 16:28 |
| marjo | Servers: | 16:28 |
| marjo | Passed: 52 (98%) Failed: 0 ( 0%) Untested: 1 ( 1%) | 16:28 |
| marjo | Desktops: | 16:28 |
| marjo | Passed: 12 (100%)Failed: 0 ( 0%) Untested: 0 ( 0%) | 16:28 |
| marjo | Bugs: | 16:28 |
| marjo | ----- | 16:28 |
| marjo | Open bugs: | 16:28 |
| marjo | LP: #510795 No sound when headphones plugged in on HP Mini 500 (Undecided, | 16:28 |
| marjo | New) | 16:29 |
| marjo | LP: #504315 Toshiba NB100 failed to resume from hibernate (Undecided, | 16:29 |
| marjo | Confirmed) | 16:29 |
| marjo | LP: #497546 Microphones not working on Dell Vostro 320 (Undecided, New) | 16:29 |
| slangasek | I see the same hw testing failures as before... do these bugs need escalated? | 16:30 |
| mdeslaur | hey guys, I've got nvidia hardware and will be at the sprint next week | 16:30 |
| === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl | ||
| mdeslaur | apw, pitti: ^ | 16:30 |
| apw | mdeslaur, excellent | 16:31 |
| fader_ | slangasek: I believe so -- I haven't seen any updates on them since last week | 16:31 |
| slangasek | [ACTION] slangasek to poke priorities of hw testing bugs | 16:31 |
| apw | are those three all kernel bugs? if so poke JFo to get them on our list | 16:31 |
| slangasek | marjo: anything that needs discussed about the specs? | 16:32 |
| fader_ | apw: My suspicion is yes, as they're audio/hibernate bugs | 16:32 |
| slangasek | apw: the first is assigned to the desktop, oddly | 16:32 |
| marjo | slangasek: no | 16:32 |
| * slangasek reassigns 510795 to the kernel | 16:32 | |
| pitti | that seems odd | 16:33 |
| pitti | it's certainly not a gst-python problem | 16:33 |
| apw | odd assignement of bugs is normal in launchpad | 16:33 |
| * JFo puts 510795 on the list | 16:33 | |
| slangasek | any other questions for QA? | 16:33 |
| robbiew | marjo: do you still plan to replicate Keybuks daily bootchart reporting with the hardware in the lab? I think cr3 already has the data, just need to steal his scripts for parsing and reporting, right? Maybe something worth tackling at the sprint next week. | 16:33 |
| pitti | looks like a checkbox bug | 16:33 |
| marjo | robbiew: yes, part of cr3's task list | 16:34 |
| robbiew | nice...thanks | 16:34 |
| marjo | slangasek: want update on alpha2 bugs? | 16:35 |
| apw | marjo, amitk likely would be intrested in the how part of that at sprint too | 16:35 |
| slangasek | marjo: if you have it | 16:35 |
| marjo | * alpha-2 test report update | 16:35 |
| marjo | === Critical === | 16:35 |
| marjo | LP: #505772 - system freezes sometimes after X is up for a while - Fix Released - Critical | 16:35 |
| marjo | LP: #506683 - indicator-applet doesn't show menu choices when selected - Confirmed - Critical | 16:35 |
| marjo | === High === | 16:35 |
| marjo | LP: #506297 - Graphical Ubuntu logo enabled on servers, no more login prompt - Fix Committed - High | 16:35 |
| marjo | LP: #500198 - casper-md5check needs to be ported to plymouth - Triaged - High | 16:35 |
| marjo | LP: #503180 - eucalyptus-cloud doesn't reply to requests - Confirmed - High | 16:35 |
| marjo | LP: #506717 - [Lucid] plymouth does not display when using nvidia drivers - Fix Committed - High | 16:35 |
| marjo | LP: #506805 - quassel built without ssl support - Fix Released - High | 16:35 |
| marjo | LP: #506816 - wl missing after Karmic -> Lucid upgrade - New - High | 16:35 |
| marjo | LP: #507343 - Ubiquity crashed in OEM configuration - New - High | 16:35 |
| marjo | two are "new" will follow up w/ engineers | 16:36 |
| apw | <marjo> LP: #506816 - wl missing after Karmic -> Lucid upgrade - New - High | 16:36 |
| marjo | that's all folks | 16:36 |
| apw | isn't that normal behaviour? | 16:36 |
| apw | i thought jockey disabled all binary drivers on update | 16:36 |
| marjo | apw: huh? | 16:36 |
| pitti | that moved from linux-restricted-modules to dkms? | 16:37 |
| pitti | apw: s/disable/does not automatically enable/ | 16:37 |
| apw | it was dkms in karmic too | 16:37 |
| apw | ahh hrm, then its broken, ignore me | 16:37 |
| pitti | oh, misread, sorry | 16:37 |
| pitti | that should be taken care of by dkms actually | 16:37 |
| slangasek | does that bug need reassigned, then? | 16:38 |
| slangasek | pitti: can you review if it needs reassigned to dkms? | 16:40 |
| pitti | yes, can do | 16:40 |
| marjo | pitti: thx | 16:40 |
| slangasek | [ACTION] pitti to triage bug #506816 to see if it's a dkms bug | 16:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 506816 in bcmwl "wl missing after Karmic -> Lucid upgrade" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506816 | 16:40 |
| slangasek | any other questions? | 16:40 |
| pitti | (actually it looks just fine, but will followup there) | 16:40 |
| marjo | slangasek: thx | 16:41 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Desktop Team | 16:41 |
| slangasek | marjo: thank you! | 16:41 |
| slangasek | pitti: your turn | 16:41 |
| pitti | as usual, weekly report/bug status/spec status is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:41 |
| pitti | this week's progress: | 16:41 |
| pitti | - Lots of work on desktop-lucid-startup-speed; current state of the art is 7.5 s | 16:41 |
| pitti | - Updated GNOME to 2.29.6 | 16:41 |
| pitti | - Landed simple-scan (removed xsane) | 16:42 |
| pitti | - Moved to OO.o 3.2, sorted out the MIRs around it, etc. | 16:42 |
| pitti | - Some progress on desktop-lucid-social-from-the-start | 16:42 |
| pitti | RC Bug front remains relatively calm; we did not get to much bug fixing, due to focussing on boot speed | 16:42 |
| pitti | oh, the 7.5 s is the desktopish part only, of course | 16:42 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu.. | 16:43 |
| pitti | the new UNE might be in jeopardy; depends on sabdfl decision and upstream progress, we'll settle that next week | 16:43 |
| Riddell | * new {k,gnome,}packagekit 0.5 uploaded | 16:43 |
| Riddell | * KDE SC 4.4 tagging due next week | 16:43 |
| Riddell | * MIRs outstanding for KOffice: plotutils, opengtl, libspnav, getfem++, pstoedit, libqtgtl | 16:43 |
| Riddell | * python-qt/kde in (unblocks jockey and others) but having problems compiling on ARM | 16:43 |
| Riddell | * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo | 16:43 |
| slangasek | not much movement on the two low-completion specs from last week; sprint, I guess? | 16:43 |
| pitti | slangasek: right, that or defer parts | 16:43 |
| pitti | slangasek: the important bits are on the sprint agenda | 16:44 |
| slangasek | pitti: what does that mean, "the new UNE"? | 16:44 |
| slangasek | I'm not thinking you mean it's questionable whether we'll ship UNE w/ 10.04 | 16:44 |
| pitti | slangasek: no, in the worst case we'll just ship with the current netbook-launcher | 16:44 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:45 |
| pitti | for now, all I can say that it might not land in a3 | 16:45 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:45 | |
| pitti | (as mentioned in "intrusive chagnes for A3") | 16:45 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:46 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:46 |
| slangasek | any questions for desktop? | 16:47 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] DX Team | 16:48 |
| njpatel | Hi -- I'm standing in for dbarth, as he's in training today | 16:48 |
| slangasek | pitti, Riddell: thanks | 16:48 |
| slangasek | njpatel: thought you might be :) | 16:48 |
| njpatel | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/LucidReleaseStatus | 16:48 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/LucidReleaseStatus | 16:48 |
| njpatel | Burn down chart: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-dx-team-lucid-alpha-3.html | 16:48 |
| njpatel | Desktop | 16:48 |
| njpatel | No releases this week | 16:48 |
| njpatel | Blueprints tracked for alpha-3: | 16:48 |
| njpatel | dx-lucid-application-indicator | 16:48 |
| njpatel | dbusmenu performance analysis completed; performance on track with requirements | 16:48 |
| njpatel | slight improvements to the protocol (cross-compatibility & performance) | 16:48 |
| njpatel | dx-lucid-gtk-improvements | 16:48 |
| njpatel | support for indicator object display for dbusmenu: slider & text entry | 16:48 |
| njpatel | cs-deco support progressing well | 16:48 |
| njpatel | dx-lucid-sound-indicator | 16:48 |
| njpatel | UI mostly implemented; integration with PA progressing (volume control signal) | 16:48 |
| njpatel | Netbook (UNR) | 16:48 |
| njpatel | Blueprints tracked for alpha-2: | 16:48 |
| njpatel | dx-lucid-netbook-launcher-startup-speed | 16:48 |
| njpatel | wncksync performance improvements landed on trunk | 16:48 |
| njpatel | and echo what pitti said about UNE | 16:49 |
| njpatel | slangasek, go easy on me -- I know nothing ;-) | 16:49 |
| slangasek | heh :) | 16:49 |
| pitti | njpatel: will you be at the sprint? would like to sit down with you wrt. launcher-startup-speed | 16:49 |
| njpatel | pitti, yep will be | 16:50 |
| njpatel | pitti, sounds good | 16:50 |
| slangasek | no questions here - anyone else? | 16:51 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Mobile Team | 16:51 |
| slangasek | njpatel: thanks | 16:51 |
| asac | hi | 16:52 |
| asac | summary for mobile: | 16:52 |
| asac | * uboot postponed | 16:52 |
| asac | -> too many bugs, so we stoped investing efforts and use redboot for imx51 | 16:52 |
| slangasek | "postponed" - post-lucid? | 16:52 |
| asac | opportunity ... but not for long anymore ... we basically handed a couple of essential bugs upstream | 16:53 |
| asac | if they fix that in time we will reconsider ... the debian-cd work etc. is already done | 16:53 |
| asac | but realistically i dont think that it will happen anymore | 16:53 |
| ogra | slangasek, probably not even post lucid | 16:53 |
| slangasek | how are you defining "in time"? | 16:53 |
| ogra | it stands and falls with a driver for USB which nobody is working on upstrem | 16:54 |
| asac | slangasek: they have code drop mid february | 16:54 |
| asac | if thats not in there, then there is no way imo | 16:54 |
| robbiew | so perhaps "* uboot dropped" as it pertains to Lucid | 16:54 |
| ogra | yes | 16:54 |
| asac | yes | 16:54 |
| ogra | unless you like to see us hacking debian-cd to produce three partition based liveimages and other awful hacks :) | 16:55 |
| asac | * marvel dove + thumb2 hangs -> no progress ... we will have the latest hardware at sprint - and will take a decision on this | 16:55 |
| asac | based on what we find there | 16:55 |
| asac | * lightweight browser: chromium-browser and firefox 3.6 in the archive! | 16:55 |
| ogra | \o/ | 16:55 |
| asac | we already have a first round of benchmarks | 16:55 |
| robbiew | nice | 16:56 |
| asac | which yield interesting results ... so we are verifying | 16:56 |
| asac | for now ffox36 on arm seems to be faster for spidermonkey | 16:56 |
| slangasek | "interesting results" - firefox also takes < 10s to boot? :-) | 16:56 |
| asac | hehe | 16:56 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:56 |
| ogra | *g* | 16:56 |
| asac | the other dromaeo bench is in favor of chromium | 16:57 |
| cjwatson | ogra: well, if we can ever manage to get some hardware to ship out, there's a standing offer from a grub2 developer ... | 16:57 |
| ogra | yeah | 16:57 |
| asac | both are javascript benchmarks | 16:57 |
| ogra | cjwatson, its high on my list at my office wall ... | 16:57 |
| ogra | :) | 16:57 |
| asac | we will also do startup benchmarking ... unfortnuately we wont have real rendering benchmarks ... | 16:57 |
| asac | but will use user perception | 16:57 |
| asac | for that part | 16:57 |
| asac | * first lsb lib-test run; raw results available on wiki page | 16:57 |
| asac | so thats good news, but we have a few bugs so we will fix those and redo the tests | 16:58 |
| asac | during sprint | 16:58 |
| asac | * thumb2 review finished and outstanding porting bugs filed. | 16:58 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PackageReviewList#High/Medium Prority Packages | 16:58 |
| ogra | mono sadly makes our images break atm | 16:58 |
| asac | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PackageReviewList#High/Medium Prority Packages | 16:58 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PackageReviewList#High/Medium Prority Packages | 16:58 |
| * ogra thinks that should be noted | 16:58 | |
| asac | so ... | 16:58 |
| asac | image status: | 16:58 |
| ogra | whoops, sorry i was to fast | 16:59 |
| asac | * general: image production broken by mono (514215) and crashes by gvfs (512959) | 16:59 |
| asac | i am fixing mono right now ... and gvfs has a tight regression window, so should be fixable too | 16:59 |
| asac | * imx51: in good shape. | 16:59 |
| ogra | yeah, we'll get that done next week | 16:59 |
| asac | * dove: not in good shape (thumb2 board hangs - 504880 and 505772) | 16:59 |
| asac | as already explained above :/ | 16:59 |
| asac | on work item front things look ok ... | 17:00 |
| asac | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile.html | 17:00 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile.html | 17:00 |
| asac | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile-lucid-alpha-3.html | 17:00 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile-lucid-alpha-3.html | 17:00 |
| asac | and RC Bugs does not show anything scary on top of what i already mentioned wrt dove | 17:01 |
| slangasek | asac: what's going on with liquid? I don't see any cronjob changes yet; are we going to have this in place for A3? | 17:01 |
| asac | slangasek: thats a community effort that we embrace and help with. | 17:01 |
| asac | i think for A3 all the packages ar realistic ... whether we will build an image or not is not sure | 17:01 |
| ogra | i think there were about two or three packages missing that are in review atm | 17:02 |
| asac | REVU | 17:02 |
| slangasek | ah | 17:02 |
| asac | yes. | 17:02 |
| asac | questions? | 17:02 |
| slangasek | no other questions here | 17:02 |
| slangasek | anyone else? | 17:02 |
| ScottK | asac: Could we get some help with python-qt4 on armel? | 17:03 |
| asac | ScottK: is that on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PackageReviewList#High/Medium Prority Packages list? | 17:03 |
| ogra | i thought NCommander is already on it | 17:03 |
| ScottK | He may be. | 17:03 |
| asac | i would hope it is there if there are issues atm | 17:03 |
| asac | ScottK: there is qt4-x11 | 17:03 |
| asac | is that the source? | 17:03 |
| ScottK | No, it's python-qt4 | 17:04 |
| ogra | its likely not thumb related | 17:04 |
| asac | hmm. ok. if there is a bug and ncommander is assigned it should be ok | 17:04 |
| ogra | we have issues with it every release | 17:04 |
| ScottK | OK. | 17:04 |
| ScottK | New dh_sip coming that should help | 17:04 |
| asac | ok | 17:05 |
| ScottK | (in general, not this one build failure) | 17:05 |
| asac | ScottK: ensure that there is a bug and is targetted/milestoned please | 17:05 |
| ScottK | Will do. | 17:05 |
| asac | ok anything else? | 17:05 |
| ScottK | Not from me | 17:05 |
| asac | thx | 17:05 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Security Team | 17:06 |
| slangasek | asac, ogra: thanks | 17:06 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: hi | 17:06 |
| ogra | thanks | 17:06 |
| asac | thx | 17:06 |
| jdstrand | o/ | 17:06 |
| jdstrand | as always: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid | 17:06 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid | 17:07 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid | 17:07 |
| jdstrand | no big issues this week | 17:07 |
| jdstrand | I do want to point out that security-lucid-libvirt-apparmor-devel is now Slow Progress | 17:07 |
| jdstrand | to better reflect reality | 17:08 |
| slangasek | what was it previously? | 17:08 |
| jdstrand | Good Progress | 17:08 |
| * slangasek nods | 17:08 | |
| jdstrand | it is a time thing, not any technical issues | 17:08 |
| jdstrand | also, our burndown still looks good, but we are touching the line the week | 17:08 |
| jdstrand | there are some things that will be marked DONE likely by the end of the day today, so we should be under it | 17:09 |
| jdstrand | (otherwise early next week) | 17:09 |
| slangasek | great :) | 17:10 |
| jdstrand | that's pretty much it unless people have questions | 17:10 |
| slangasek | no questions here; others? | 17:10 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] MOTU | 17:11 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: thanks | 17:11 |
| slangasek | ScottK: hello | 17:11 |
| jdstrand | sure! :) | 17:11 |
| ScottK | Hello | 17:11 |
| ScottK | I got confirmation that the person who was working on the supportable binaries analysis can't do it due to health issues. | 17:11 |
| * slangasek nods | 17:11 | |
| ScottK | Need a volunteer, but didn't have time to deal with asking for one. | 17:11 |
| slangasek | cjwatson said he was putting the spec on the sprint agenda | 17:12 |
| ScottK | Same thing with the action with asac on xulrunner. | 17:12 |
| ScottK | Ah, excellent. | 17:12 |
| slangasek | you have the data set for that, right? Can you get it to cjwatson or myself over the weekend? | 17:12 |
| ScottK | I've got a start of a python script that he had done if anyone wants it. I haven't even opened it to look at it. | 17:12 |
| ScottK | I do have the data. | 17:13 |
| ScottK | I'll send it to you both. | 17:13 |
| ScottK | Do to declining time available for Ubuntu stuff I'm probably going to ask someone else to start reporting on MOTU in the release meetings. | 17:14 |
| ScottK | Do/Due | 17:14 |
| ScottK | That's all I have. | 17:14 |
| slangasek | alright | 17:14 |
| slangasek | thanks for your efforts keeping us up-to-date until now! | 17:14 |
| slangasek | anyone have questions regarding MOTU? | 17:15 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 17:15 |
| slangasek | anything else before we wrap? | 17:15 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
| slangasek | done | 17:16 |
| pitti | thanks everyone | 17:16 |
| slangasek | thanks, all - safe travels if you're traveling this weekend! | 17:16 |
| ogra | yay | 17:16 |
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