[02:52] <ubuntu_traveler> I'm having trouble accessing ubuntuone from the web. I keep getting OpenID authentication failed: Nonce already used or out of range
[03:57] <duanedesign> anyone know of any bugs using the web ui with Internet Explorer?
[05:45] <mikedep333> hey are other people able to access ubuntu one?
[05:48] <mikedep333> I ran into this bug
[05:48] <mikedep333> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/510866
[05:49] <mikedep333> but there is an easy workaround
[08:07] <magatz> hi, is there a summary of the activity/decisions amda during the yersteday Ubuntuone biug day?
[08:10] <magatz> sorry for the mispelling ...
[12:58] <duanedesign> darn spammers. 'Be Gone Already'! :)
[13:17] <duanedesign> i came across a bug report and forum post in regards to Internet Explorrer and the Ubuntu One WebUI. Is this a known issue?
[13:19] <rtgz> duanedesign, depends on what the bug is
[13:19] <rtgz> duanedesign, if that is IE, then that is WONTFIX :)
[13:20] <duanedesign> rtgz: ;)
[13:20] <duanedesign> rtgz: Internet working better today?
[13:21] <duanedesign> rtgz: we had an ice storm where i am. Crossing fingers that internet and power stay on
[13:22] <rtgz> duanedesign, i had a pretty strange day yesterday. When I needed the internet most, in the evening, the ISP's ppp responded 'Access denied'. Will connect a backup one on Tuesday...
[13:25] <rtgz> duanedesign, here, in Ukraine we don't need ice storms for the internet or power outages to occur. It is a value-added feature.
[13:30] <rtgz> why do we use IRC these days if XMPP prevents ^ from happening by requiring valid users...
[14:06]  * rtgz hates local laws
[14:08] <rtgz> with banks still forced to live in 196x, where facsimile transactions are not trusted but no replacement is provided...
[14:10] <jblount> rtgz: Banks are the worst.
[14:11] <rtgz> jblount, nope, banks are all "yes, sir, sure, we will cooperate..."
[14:13] <rtgz> jblount, but then there are various government-related requirements that force the remote party to rewrite the agreement so that it can be accepted by the local authorities...
[14:13] <rtgz> grrrr
[14:14] <rtgz> so, abstracting from local laws... Has anybody checked whether couchdb is able to replicate via http proxy?
[14:15] <rtgz> i made syncdaemon work with the proxy, as I already said earlier; but this is only a part of ubuntuone. The other part is couchdb which either has it as a native capability or the same hack will be required.
[14:17]  * dobey hates stupid CTCP bombs
[14:18]  * rtgz thinks about routing PPP via IRC...
[14:19] <rtgz> hm, this seems unrelated
[14:19] <rtgz> so
[14:19] <rtgz> nobody from couchdb/desktopcouch here?
[14:19] <dobey> have you tried to see if it Just Works (TM)?
[14:21] <dobey> i really don't understand the bot attacks on #ubuntuone
[14:33] <aquarius> rtgz, hey
[14:33] <aquarius> I don't know if couch supports proxies...I'll check.
[14:33] <rtgz> aquarius, hey
[14:34]  * aquarius asks #couchdb
[14:46] <jcastro> aquarius: happy birthday!
[14:46] <aquarius> jcastro, not until tomorrow, pal :)
[14:46] <jcastro> yeah but I won't see you tomorrow
[14:46] <aquarius> ha!
[14:46] <aquarius> cheers :)
[14:46] <aquarius> shall see you the day after, though!
[14:47] <jcastro> \m/
[14:47] <jcastro> I am getting in early
[14:48] <aquarius> I won't be there until 9pm or so
[14:49] <urbanape> good morning, everyone!
[14:50] <jblount> Morning 'ape
[14:54] <dobey> yeah
[14:54] <dobey> tomorrow man
[14:55] <dobey> i get to PDX at 10, assuming midwestern storms don't f that up
[14:55] <urbanape> gotta rebootie. I'll be right back (though I won't disappear from here)
[14:55] <dobey> sigh
[14:56] <rtgz> bug. evolution.GGGGRRRRR
[14:56] <dobey> jcastro: clearly you don't understand the significance of tomorrow :)
[14:59] <jcastro> dobey: what happens tomorrow?
[15:01] <dobey> jcastro: well it's not only aquarius's birthday
[15:01] <dobey> but also mine
[15:02] <aquarius> omg
[15:02] <jblount> Woo!
[15:02] <aquarius> u1 birthday day
[15:02] <jcastro> dobey: fill it in on facebook
[15:02] <jcastro> it's also evand's bday
[15:03] <jblount> Desktop+ MEETING BEGINS
[15:03] <jblount> Say "me" if you want to wish aq and dopey a happy birthday (or if you want to take part in the meeting)
[15:03] <aquarius> me
[15:03] <jblount> me
[15:03] <aquarius> happy birthday dobey for tomorrow :)
[15:03] <dobey> jcastro: it is on facebook
[15:03] <dobey> hrmm
[15:04] <dobey> me
[15:04] <aquarius> also, dopey. harsh by jblount
[15:05] <jblount> aquarius: I'm not good with tab completion ;)
[15:05] <jblount> I need to jump on a phone call, so I'll start it off and let everyone catch up:
[15:05] <jblount> DONE: Some code review, some work on start page stuff
[15:05] <jblount> TODO: Get start pages jiving with translations, get that up so people can review it, figure out yahoo's search stuff.
[15:06] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:06] <aquarius> vds is afk at the moment and will fill in his stuff when he gets back
[15:06] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE:
[15:06] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO: test suite for music downloader design; cry about twisted; split library page into three, write tests, and commit;  have music library page send message to downloader daemon; make tomboy first-sync experience nicer
[15:06] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED:
[15:06] <aquarius> go go gadget dobey
[15:07] <dobey> ☺ DONE: Blocked on libubuntuone mess. Got libubuntuone packages built in beta PPA, Landed branches, Fixed Makefile to allow running make test without make check
[15:07] <dobey> ☹ TODO: Fix some bugs I filed (#510351, #510353, #510348, #510355)
[15:07] <dobey> ☹ BLCK: None.
[15:07] <dobey> vds, urbanape, CardinalFang, etc... FIGHT!
[15:09] <urbanape> me!
[15:10] <urbanape> DONE: Mostly fixed the subsequent-client branch, what remains, I believe are bugs that can be filled against Bindwood in general (which I will do). Started on migration branch.
[15:10] <urbanape> TODO: Finish migration branch, write up some testing strategies, possibly some scripts to automate these tests.
[15:10] <urbanape> BLOCK: None, thank the maker.
[15:47] <Urda> is anybody having Ubuntu One connection issues this morning?
[15:48] <mhall119|work> i don't think so
[15:48] <dobey> what sort of issue?
[15:49] <Urda> well for one, one the web I get random "OpenID cannot auth" issues
[15:50] <Urda> and two of my three ubuntu clients keep prompting to be added to my account, even though they are already added
[15:51] <dobey> Urda: for the web issue, just go to one.ubuntu.com again after you get that error. there's a weird openid issue that people are looking at
[15:54] <dobey> Urda: i'm not sure why it would be reprompting you to add your account repeatedly though, what version of the client are you running on those?
[15:54] <Urda> dobey: I should be running the latest standard client, I check for aptitude updates a lot
[15:54] <Urda> dobey: seems to be behaving now that I am in IRC, must know I'm here lol
[16:21] <feutete> hello--today I have started getting a browser window popping up about every 5-10 minutes asking me if I want to add my computer to my ubuntuone account
[16:21] <feutete> the thing is that this computer has been on the account for months now
[16:22] <feutete> I see this in the syncdaemon log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/365254/
[16:22] <feutete> is there some sort of system issue on the u1 servers that is causing this?
[16:31] <dobey> feutete: what version of ubuntuone-client do you have please?
[16:33] <feutete> dobey: what's the best way to find that out?
[16:33] <dobey> dpkg -l ubuntuone-client-gnome
[16:33] <dobey> run that in a terminal
[16:34] <feutete> dobey: /msg 1.0.2-0ubuntu2
[16:34] <feutete> er... 1.0.2-0ubuntu2
[16:34] <feutete> dunno how /msg got in there :s
[16:34] <feutete> this just started this morning...I've  been running fine for months
[16:35] <dobey> feutete: ok, can you open System->Administration->Software Sources, and under the Updates tab there, enable "Proposed updates", then close the dialog, let it refresh, and update the ubuntuone packages from there?
[16:38] <feutete> dobey: done. now I'm on 1.0.3-0ubuntu1
[16:42] <dobey> feutete: ok, if you right click on the applet and choose "Quit", and then wait a few seconds, and then run Ubuntu One again from the Internet menu, and let me know if you still have the same issues please
[16:50] <feutete> dobey: will do...
[16:53] <dobey> thanks
[16:53] <dobey> i must go now. bbiab
[16:53] <feutete> thanks dobey
[17:34] <feutete> dobey: when you come back, ping me please...the original problem has cleared up, but now I have problems staying connected
[17:51] <statik> hi artir
[17:51] <statik> gah freenode
[17:51] <duanedesign> :(
[17:52] <duanedesign> darn script kiddies need to do something productive
[17:54] <dobey> feutete: hi
[17:54] <feutete> dobey: hi
[17:55] <dobey> feutete: i imagine you're still getting the errors from the server, causing the disconnect. not sure why you're getting the errors. let me poke someone
[17:55] <feutete> so, now I'll stay connected for a while, and then the applet icon will show a red X and I get this in syncdaemon.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/365293/
[17:55] <feutete> thanks
[17:58] <dobey> feutete: ok, there should be some logs on the server about why it's doing that, so hopefully someone can figure it out soon and make it better. i doubt you're the only person that's seeing it :)
[18:03] <rtgz> okay
[18:04] <rtgz> dc replication stops on any avahi error
[18:04] <feutete> dobey: thanks
[18:08] <dobey> this is getting annoying
[18:08] <rtgz> openid failed
[18:09] <rtgz> STILL???
[19:10] <rtgz> woo-hoo, backup ISP arrives on Sunday :)
[19:12] <dobey> yay more spam
[19:13] <rtgz> ubuntu needs to provide @ubuntuone.com XMPP accounts and/or email forwarding. To get rid from IRC :)
[19:17] <dobey> ubuntu.com jabber server would be neat, i do agree
[19:20] <dobey> hrmm
[19:21]  * dobey wonders how to make irssi ignore CTCP VERSION
[19:24] <beuno> dobey, I think /IGNORE * CTCPS
[19:24] <beuno> will do it
[19:25] <dobey> beuno: yeah, but i think that ignores ALL CTCP, not ONLY VERSION :)
[19:25] <beuno> that's ok   :)
[19:26] <dobey> oh well
[19:27] <rtgz> dobey, desktopcouch does not bear "Just Works with Proxy(TM) Logo"
[19:29] <dobey> blah
[19:29] <dobey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/365361/
[19:29] <dobey> not fun
[19:30] <mandel> CardinalFang ping
[19:31] <CardinalFang> mandel, hi!
[19:32] <mandel> CardinalFang hello!
[19:32] <mandel> CardinalFang one stupid question, on a MergeableList, why dont we have a remove method?
[19:33] <CardinalFang> mandel, No idea.  I'll go look. ...
[19:34] <mandel> CardinalFang thx :D
[19:37] <CardinalFang> mandel, It's an oversight, it seems.
[19:37] <CardinalFang> mandel, I'll hack one up in a few minutes.  Want to review it?
[19:37] <mandel> sure, I'll be more than happy
[19:39] <rtgz> aquarius, dc replication while proxy in place http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/365369/
[19:39] <aquarius> rtgz, yeah. I am told by the Couch people that couch doesn't support it yet (well, the underlying erlang http thing doesn't)
[19:40] <aquarius> I need to file a ticket with CouchDB upstream about it
[19:40] <rtgz> aquarius, and 80/443 ports are not accessible for applications...
[19:40] <aquarius> feel free to do that instead of me if you get there first ;-)
[19:40] <rtgz> aquarius, so making UbuntuOne work behind proxy is making syncdaemon work with proxy then couchdb and then desktopcouch.
[19:41] <aquarius> yes, although desktopcouch shouldn't need to do anything new, assuming that python's urllib library supports proxies, which I'm pretty sure it does
[19:43] <dobey> aquarius: HAHAHAHA
[19:43] <dobey> aquarius: you assume too much
[19:43] <rtgz> The urlopen() function works transparently with proxies which do not require authentication
[19:43] <rtgz> Proxies which require authentication for use are not currently supported; this is considered an implementation limitation.
[19:43] <rtgz> sweet
[19:43]  * aquarius puts on his depressed-and-hard-done-by look.
[19:43] <dobey> yeah, using authed or socks proxy with urllib is a no-go
[19:44] <dobey> unless you write some funky magic, like for doing ssl validation
[19:45] <rtgz> so this leaves people in the universities w/o UbuntuOne...
[19:46] <rtgz> okay, this limitation can be worked around by running local tunnel through the proxy and have syncdaemon and couchdb connect to localhost... but it looks like it will create even more problems... I feel that it will create them
[19:47] <rtgz> first of all this is a hack
[19:47] <rtgz> second: this is a hack
[19:47] <dobey> hrmm
[19:47] <dobey> i wonder if it's just ubuntuone-client that breaks
[19:49] <rtgz> dobey, hm... basically... proxy support seems to be left as an exercise to the user...
[19:51] <dobey> rtgz: unfortunately :(
[19:51] <CardinalFang> mandel, until .remove()  is implemented for a time, I think the best way to handle deletion is to use "del foo[N]".
[19:53] <mandel> CardinalFang, thx I'll do that I noticed the problem is that I have the value and not the key, that is why I was asking and finding the key will add an overhead to the operation
[19:53] <dobey> rtgz: i'm not sure what to do about that
[19:53] <dobey> rtgz: clearly the python std libraries need to be fixed
[19:54] <dobey> and why does desktopcouch try to access *MY* keyring in the tests?
[19:57] <mandel> CardinalFang, I really do not know how would be a good implementation, maybe a double two way hash would do the trick
[20:09] <mandel> CardinalFang, a would implement the MergeableList as a modified HashBiMap by using buckets for the value->key map but not for the key->value that will allow to perform the operations as expected
[20:10] <mandel> an O(n) in both directions... I think :P
[20:29] <mandel> CardinalFang, actually I got the O(n) bad... it would be O(1) with a possible large constant in both dirs including adding and removing since if you have a bucket when removing you dont care and just remove the first element in it
[20:31] <CardinalFang> mandel, right!  This is a good idea.
[21:47] <rtgz> *WALL* Currently urllib2 does not support fetching of https locations through a proxy. This can be a problem.
[21:47] <rtgz> IT IS!
[21:47] <rtgz> grrr
[21:50] <dobey> yes  it is
[21:53]  * jblount sets fire to thunderbird
[21:58] <dobey> e-mail is so passe.
[22:15] <rtgz> Okay, happy birthday to everyone celebrating. Have great parties and have a lot of fun!
[22:16]  * rtgz is shutting down for sleeep now!
[22:29] <dobey> later