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macoRiddell: Nightrose bailed me out when non-kubuntu kde question came up00:09
macoRiddell: and then the people in -chat realised that the combination of celeste, mackenzie, and lydia = wow there's a lot of women involved in kde/kubuntu!00:14
macoand then they asked why all the girls like kde and if women like c++ ...and then pleia2 was all "hey! i use gnome!"00:14
macobut then i informed her that my desktop was prettier than hers00:14
QuintasanOh well. I'm going to bed. Good night Ladies and Gentleman00:17
Lex79Quintasan: night00:18
ryanakcamaco: But don't you use xmonad? Or have you finally switched?00:18
ryanakcaG'night Quintasan00:18
macoryanakca: i use kde with xmonad instead of kde with kwin00:18
macoQuintasan: niters00:18
ryanakcamaco: Have a link to your xmonad.hs?00:23
macoryanakca: http://pastebin.com/f3e4698c500:23
macoryanakca: so even though xprop says plasma-desktop and Plasma-desktop are both valid, only the capital P one actually works *shrug*00:24
macobe warned when making edits that you need the capitalised forms00:24
ryanakcamaco: thanks00:25
* ryanakca wonders if he can run both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook simultaneously now :)00:26
* maco hopes Riddell didn't fall asleep, else he'll miss his plane00:26
Riddellplane?00:27
Riddelloh aye, I should go to the airport shouldn't I?00:28
macoRiddell: you said you have to leave at 3. its 123000:29
macoi figured if you fell asleep now, you'd not wake up by 300:29
ScottKryanakca: You can run them both, but it has unfortunate effects on performance.00:55
ryanakcaScottK: Ah01:05
Riddellanyone having problems with knetworkmanager?01:06
Riddellit's stopped working for me?01:06
Riddells/\?//01:06
JontheEchidnanope, working fine here01:07
verbalshadowRiddell: it did for me a few days back, i just started nm-applet and re-enable network management, could to it from knm or cnetworkmanager either01:39
verbalshadowoops couldn't01:39
nixternalmmm, mexican food ftw!02:11
macoooh food? i want food02:13
daskreechfood02:19
seelemaco: how did the udw talk go?02:27
Riddellshe rocked!02:28
macohahaha02:28
macoseele: i got a bit stuck at "show a list of previous kubuntu papercuts and current ones" and so showed the lp search results within the hundredpapercuts project02:28
seeleah cool02:29
macoand when i got asked a KDE-but-not-Kubuntu question, Nightrose became my assistant02:29
seeledid you talk about the papercut you worked on too?02:29
seelewhat was the kde question?02:29
macowhy do some junior jobs look hard02:29
macoi thought maybe so there'd be some "ive coded before, but not worked on kde" tasks, but lydia said because someone didnt know what they wer doing when they tagged it02:29
macoi mentioned that a past papercut was changing scary technical terms to nicer user ones02:30
seelecool02:31
macoseele: someone asked why all the girls like kde02:33
macoya know, once lydia was pulled in02:33
macopleia2 popped up to proclaim her love of gnome02:33
daskreechFoot fetish!02:34
seelemaco: because we dont need stupid girls clubs to feel like we belong to kde02:39
macodaskreech: O_o02:40
macodaskreech: oh wait...the gnome logo?02:40
macoseele: i like u-w and linuxchix...02:40
seelei think they are counter productive and nothing more the clubs02:41
seelebut my views on women's groups are neither a secret nor popular02:41
macoi dont think im part of kde though. a little bit a part of kubuntu, but not much02:41
* daskreech hugs maco02:41
macojust that im friends with the people who actually do make up the kubuntu team02:41
macoi only know how to do not-gui-at-all or gtk programming, so... :P02:42
macobut by semester's end, i'll be able to do kde stuff!02:42
* maco circles the "learn pykde" entry on the todo list02:42
macoRiddell: if i dont have any working code for that sign language app by the time you get here, make me sit down and Just Do It02:44
maco(design is done...ish)02:45
Riddellgotcha02:45
macosebas: network issues?02:48
dhillon-v10maco: nice session today :)02:50
dhillon-v10Riddell: hi :) how's it going02:50
macodhillon-v10: thanks02:50
macodhillon-v10: seele wrote it02:50
seeledhillon-v10: i unfortunately had a last minute meeting dropped on me and i asked maco to cover for me02:50
dhillon-v10seele: it was a nice session, but I missed the first part of it, just got back from school so I was there when someone asked that question regarding papercuts being hard02:51
maconow i see why so many people do joint sessions02:51
macothen you have backup on questions you cant answer!02:52
dhillon-v10maco: that was not really a good question IMHO, you need to know how to code to solve papercuts02:52
macodhillon-v10: not necessarily!02:52
macoi did a papercut last cycle without knowing c++02:53
macoit was a crackton of string changes02:53
dhillon-v10maco: well, to some extent, it makes your life easy :)02:53
macobut that question was about junior jobs, which is something i'm not really familiar with02:53
macoi'd read lyd's blog post about them before though, so i grabbed her02:53
dhillon-v10maco: but in the end it turned out alright :)02:54
seeledhillon-v10: the point is that the project itself is small, so even if it takes a lot of work to learn how to fix the bug, as a beginner, you get a chance to learn a lot02:56
seeleso even if it would take a seasoned developer 10 minutes to fix and someone new a few days, it is still a fairly small problem to fix02:56
dhillon-v10seele: yeah, and 10 minutes is some time anyone can fin02:57
dhillon-v10*find02:57
macoi guess i could start looking at >1 day problems....02:57
macoi usually try to find bugs that i can do in a day02:58
macohalf of which is spent figuring out which file is the one to modify02:58
seelemaco: that's the learning bit. after a while you get to know where that stuff is and it isn't part of the bug fixing time02:59
seelethat's why i like things like papercuts as an introduction to kde, you learn a lot about the libs by trying to do something simple, but you can reuse that knoweldge02:59
ScottKmaco: You are definitely part of Kubuntu and part of KDE too.  You have more upstream commits than I do.03:04
macoScottK: they're string changes...03:04
ScottKmaco: Yes.  You don't need to be a C++ ubergeek to be part of KDE.03:05
dhillon-v10ScottK: that makes me feel good :) I am not too proficient at it03:05
seeleScottK: incase you didnt get one of the 5 emails about the kde release party.. it is at fudruckers in columbia03:06
macoScottK: i feel more like im a newbish developer who happens to use kde03:06
seelei figured since most of the people are from that area, that is a good place to have it03:06
macoif more people than can fit in your car want to come from dc (i can already count up me, Riddell, and crimsun), is the B30 the way to go?03:08
macoi mean, in a pinch i think people could sit on each others' laps, but i dont think the state troopers like that03:09
seelewhat are you talking about03:09
seelewhy the hell would you take the bus from dc to columbia?03:09
macobecause it's too far to walk?03:09
seelebecause there are no such thing as cars?03:09
seelei've already said i will pick up people at the metro03:10
macothats why i said "if more than can fit in your car"03:10
seeleive got more than one car, i dont think it will be a problem03:10
macooh03:10
seelethe benefits of being in comfortable upper middle class :P03:10
seeledont make things harder than they need to be :P03:10
macoseele: by the way, why no seele in #ubuntu-us-dc ?03:13
macooh its friday! metro open later tonight!03:13
seelemaco: uh.. i dunno.. i try not to lurk and only stay in channels i participate in03:16
macooh ok03:17
daskreechmaco: You have a sign language app?03:23
macodaskreech: i will....eventually03:23
macoits my senior design project03:23
daskreechmaco: Serious?03:25
daskreechHmm03:25
macodaskreech: yes03:25
daskreechI have a few people here very interested in a sign language app03:25
macoyou pick a region's sign language, and then you go through lessons, and then you get quizzed on them03:25
macothe lessons show you a video of a sign, and text telling you what the sign means and if necessary some hints like "don't sign it too high on your cheek, else instead of saying apple you'll say onion"03:26
daskreechmaco: We just did something like that here but as a web app for Sign language teachers03:26
macoand it should remember which lesson of which sign language you were on03:26
daskreechThey were asking if KDE had anything with Signlanguage when they saw parley03:27
macohopefully by may there will be then :)03:27
macoso what you're saying is, i have willing test subjects?03:27
daskreech\o/03:27
daskreechQuite a few03:27
macopossibly people willing to help build up a library of signs as well?03:27
macoi only know ASL signs03:28
daskreechI have JSL03:28
macoJ? Japanese?03:28
daskreechI'll speak to them about licensing on it03:28
ScottKseele: Fudruckers is a good choice, unfortunately I'll be in California on business.03:28
daskreechJamaican03:28
seeleScottK: waah, well i guess it is good you have business so i cant complain too much :)03:28
macoagateau said he thinks he needs to learn LSF since ASL & LSF are about 2/3 the same and i talk too fast for his ears03:28
macohe asked if i sign as fast as i talk03:29
macoi told him no, native english speakers ask me to sign while i talk to make me talk at a pace they can understand03:29
* ScottK tosses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacing_effect at maco along with http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/principles.php03:32
ScottKmaco: mnemosyne is written in pyqt.03:32
macoi think i can convince some friends to record some Auslan and NZSL signs03:32
macoScottK: oh thats like pimsleur!03:32
macowhen i started studying russian it was with the pimsleur CDs and they did the gradual spacing thing03:33
macoFor all you science geeks, Mnemosyne can be integrated with LaTeX: <--- *GIGGLE*03:34
macoyay LaTeX!03:34
ScottKmnemosyne 1 is in the archive and is pyqt3.  mnemosyne 2 is in development and is pyqt4.03:34
ScottKUnfortunately, the principle developer is about to become a father again, so release soon in unlikely.03:35
ScottKmaco: mnemosyne 2 is split into a core library and a U/I.  I'm not sure, but the lib might be useful for your project.03:35
ScottKI'm also not sure how done it is.03:36
macook. thanks!03:36
macono physics card set :(03:36
macoor algebra :(03:36
macoguess ill be learning from a book tomorrow, the old fashioned way03:36
ScottKIt's also compatible with supermemo data, so if you can find those, they'll work too.03:36
daskreechmaco: What's the structure of it?03:39
macodaskreech: of how mine's supposed to be put together? umm i have a uml somewhere around here...03:40
daskreechok can you mail it to me?03:41
macoi have it on a server...03:41
macowanna look in firefox?03:41
daskreech:-)03:41
daskreechSure03:42
macoRiddell grumped because i used Dia instead of Umbrello03:42
macohttp://student.seas.gwu.edu/~mac/uml.png03:42
macoim pretty sure i was a gnome user when the first draft of the uml happened though03:42
macoalso, i dont like qt3 :P03:43
daskreechHa ha :)03:54
daskreechHow long are these attacks on freenode going to go on?03:55
maconew server tomorrow03:55
daskreechRiddell should be suitably annoyed he's in like 60 channels03:55
macohe's on his way to the airport03:55
macohe's sprinting all next week03:55
maco(er...as in canonical sprinting, not as in running)03:56
daskreechok03:57
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daskreechBye jackass04:32
claydohwhere are all these query attempts?  zqgtsrv and nd the like?digrskd a04:35
tsimpsonpeople being annoying04:43
daskreechclaydoh: Freenode under attack again04:48
daskreechThey have been bots joing random channels and script CTCP spam attacks all day04:49
macoall day?05:15
macomore like all month05:15
daskreechmaco: Fun isn't it?05:51
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markeyhey all10:50
markeyis it possible (on Karmic) to upgrade to Qt 4.6.1, but keeping KDE 4.3.5?10:51
markeyI don't want to upgrade KDE at this point (not yet)10:51
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refreshFSNhello! just one quick question...planning to upgrade amarok 2.2.0 to amarok 2.2.2 on ubuntu (gnome). do i need to purge v2.2.0 before installing 2.2.2 or do i leave everything as it was?12:05
MamarokrefreshFSN: sorry, markey did mislead you, support is in #kubuntu12:12
Mamarokand see my answer in #amarok12:12
markeyah sorry12:13
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* ryanakca debates dist-upgrading to lucid15:21
redIagowhere can i get some good info on programming with qt?16:12
QuintasanJontheEchidna: well if you have some time to spare I'd like you to help me with icecc if you can16:33
_Groo_hi/2 all16:51
_Groo_anyone working in qt 4.6.1 already16:51
Tm_T_Groo_: I thought we are were using it16:54
_Groo_Tm_T: really? cause i just did an update in lucid and its still 4.6.016:55
Tm_Tah, then I have no idea16:56
_Groo_Tm_T: are you on karmic?16:56
_Groo_Tm_T: maybe a ppa?16:56
Tm_TIntrepid16:56
_Groo_Tm_T: a ppa then16:57
Tm_Tnope, no ppa for Intrepid (:16:57
_Groo_Tm_T: own packages?16:57
Tm_Tno, I'm ugly and just build and run KDE trunk & stuff for myself ):16:58
Sputwho doesn't :)17:01
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lubyouare there new python-kde4 packages in the works, because those released with kde 4.4 rc2 are broken (RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v7.0 but the PyKDE4.kdeui module requires API v6.0) ?17:32
Lex79not yet in karmic17:33
lubyoutoo bad because it pretty much breaks all the pykde apps incl. the system setting's printer applet17:35
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dhillon-v10nixternal: ping regarding docs freeze19:59
nixternalyo20:07
nixternaldhillon-v10: yo20:08
dhillon-v10nixternal: sorry irssi doesn't inform when someone pings me back, but anyways I finished my docs. and they were all reviewed so would you like for me to send you an email of all my docs. and pictures that I completed so you can check if you have included all of them in the branch20:32
Tm_Tdhillon-v10: how it doesn't inform?20:33
dhillon-v10Tm_T: hi there, you know like in xchat when someone pings you back you someone ping you, xchat window start blinking irssi in terminator doesn't do that20:34
crimsunthat's because irssi has this "feature" where nick-highlight is only triggered at the beginning of the line20:35
dhillon-v10* someone pings you back sorry about repeating the text20:35
Tm_Tdhillon-v10: ah, you can make Konsole atleast to bling and yell at you20:35
Tm_Tcrimsun: not true20:35
Tm_Tcrimsun: it's totally up to your hilight rules20:36
crimsunTm_T: well, certainly, it's perl20:36
dhillon-v10Tm_T: wait then let me switch to konsole :)20:36
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Tm_Tdhillon-v10: I'm sure you can do similar with Terminator too, just need configuration, and in Terminators case it typically is done by editing the config file20:37
dhillon-v10_Tm_T: probably I haven't looked into it, but will do20:38
dhillon-v10_dhillon-v10: ping20:38
Tm_Tdhillon-v10: also it's up to how you configure your shell and screen if you use that20:38
Tm_Taudible bell or visible bell, up to your taste20:38
dhillon-v10_Tm_T: yup you are right, konsole blinks :)20:38
nixternaldhillon-v10_: just mark your changes for a merge on LP, or I will just manually copy them over later...I am getting ready to head out for the day20:38
dhillon-v10_nixternal: alright :) that works too20:39
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ScottKnhandler: Could there please be some way to opt out of all these freenode notification PMs?  I find them far more annoying than the stuff they are warning me about.20:52
Sputmode +w is supposed to enable wallops21:15
Sputbut freenode staff likes to ignore that :P21:16
crimsuni.e., try setting -w21:16
tsimpsonScottK: you could probably ignore notices from *!*@freenode/staff/* (if your client supports ignoring notices)21:18
Tm_TScottK: Sput: in this case, I doubt all who should receive the message does have +w (:21:18
tsimpsonbut global notices are supposed to be ... global :)21:19
Tm_Tindeed21:19
Tm_TI never had problems with those21:20
Tm_TI have way more messages from spammers and alike21:20
ScottKSince I got CTCP ignore, I've been untroubled by spammers/bad guys21:20
macowhere'd you get it?21:20
macoi am confused21:20
macodid you just recompile locally or something?21:20
Tm_Tmaco: ?21:21
macoTm_T: at ScottK21:21
Tm_Troger21:21
ScottKmaco: For quassel you get it in lucid, karmic-updates, and karmic-backports.21:22
Sputit shouldn't be necessary anymore though21:22
macook where in teh settings is it then? because i have karmic-updates, and i havent noticed any changes to quassel...21:23
Sputlooks like spamming has stopped, also there's a user mode now to ignore channel CTCPs21:23
macono new checkboxes or anything in the "ignore" section21:23
tsimpsonthe new IRCd blocs the HTTP POST exploit they used21:23
tsimpsonand the channel mode +C blocks all CTCPs to a channel21:23
macoim still wondering where this mysterious new option in quassel is though21:24
macosupposedly its been there for a few days right, so i wouldve been able to not get these ctcps for the last few days? only i havent been able to find the setting21:24
ScottKmaco: In the rule type for new ignore list rules21:29
nhandlerScottK: The only way to block the global notices is with the /ignore option that tsimpson mentioned. Although, these announcements are generally intended to be seen/read by everyone, so do this at your own risk21:33
Sputnhandler: I'm not sure if every netsplit needs to be commented as a global message, and if such information couldn't be enabled for +w users only21:35
Sputnetsplits by themselves are spammy enough, having 1-2 staffers during and/or afterwards writing a lengthy text telling me that a server went down doesn't strike me as particularly important :)21:36
ScottKAgreed21:37
Sputthat just makes users take measure to blanket-ignore staff messages, and they'll miss the real important ones21:37
QuintasanZorael: can you do echo $QT_IM_MODULE in konsole?22:27
ZoraelQuintasan: $QT_IM_MODULE is ibus, $XMODIFIERS is @im=ibus22:27
Quintasandamn22:28
Quintasansame here22:28
QuintasanZorael: using Konversation or Kopete ATM?22:28
ZoraelKonversation for IRC, Kopete for the rest. :322:28
Quintasanwhen you right click on input field and go to Select Input Method I can guess you have ibus selected22:29
Quintasanright?22:29
ZoraelIn Kopete and Konversation yes, in Konsole no22:29
QuintasanDo you have XIM there?22:29
ZoraelXIM, scim-bridge, ibus (ja) and uim - since I have all those installed to see if b.k.o #222620 was prevalent in each22:31
Quintasandamn, what's wrong now :/22:31
ZoraelLet me restart X just incase, this machine has been running for a while now22:33
Quintasanhmm in Kate I can't even enable Anthy with ctrl+alt+comma22:35
ZoraelQuintasan: Looking closer, I see I get ibus from a ppa, so we're likely not running the same version22:35
ZoraelCtrl+alt+comma is my own setting; I have comma for enable, dot for hiragana, dash for katakana etc (on a Swedish keyboard)22:36
QuintasanZorael:  1.2.0.200922:36
Quintasanwhat version do you have?22:36
ZoraelQuintasan: 1.2.0.20091215-1~ppa2, from ppa:ibus-dev/ibus-1.2-karmic22:37
Quintasanlet me test that22:38
Quintasanaint ctrl+alt+comma giving you a comma in input window even with keybind?22:38
Zoraelnope22:38
ZoraelIn ibus preferences; "Enable or disable: Control+space; Control+Alt+comma"22:39
Quintasanokay22:40
Quintasanbrb22:40
QuintasanZorael: :/22:43
Quintasanstill XIM22:43
QuintasanI can use ibus if I switch to it manually22:43
Quintasanhngh22:43
ZoraelI just switch input methods via im-switch and it ends up being the default22:44
Quintasanim-switch -z ja_JP -s ibus ?22:46
ZoraelI don't use a Japanese locale, so just -s ibus22:46
ZoraelI end up as all_ALL for some reason22:46
Quintasanoh wow22:46
QuintasanI have ibus and ibus-kde22:46
Quintasan:O22:46
Zoraelwait, what? From where?22:47
Zoraelgive!22:47
Quintasanim-switch -c22:47
ZoraelCurious, I only have ibus22:47
Quintasanplasam-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus22:47
Quintasando you have this package?22:47
Quintasandamn HURRDURR22:48
ZoraelNope, I'll try it out22:48
ZoraelI largely prefer UIM over ibus, due to ibus' (and Anthy under ibus) general lack of configurability and hitherto no Qt4 frontend22:48
Quintasanbrb22:50
Quintasantesting testing and testing22:50
QuintasanYEAH22:51
QuintasanZorael: I know what's wrong22:51
QuintasanIt's a problem with different locale22:52
ZoraelAh, you were setting the IM for ja_JP when you were using e.g. en_US?22:52
QuintasanI had set ibus for jp_JP but my locale is pl_PL and it used default (XIM)22:52
Quintasan:DD22:52
Quintasanand what did you say about UIM?22:52
ZoraelWell, install it and try it out; compare. :3 It has input prediction, segment separators, and other Anthy options that ibus just doesn't seem to offer22:54
Quintasan東京23:00
Quintasan23:00
Zoraelyep :)23:00
Quintasanso Ibus works pretty fine23:00
ZoraelWell23:00
QuintasanI type in toukyou and press space and it changes into kanji23:00
Zoraeltry opening up kate and enter something in there23:00
Quintasanworks23:01
ZoraelYes, that's how it's supposed to work; you enter stuff, hit space and get a suggestion, then hit space again and get candidates23:01
ZoraelJapanese does?23:01
ZoraelYou don't get https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=222620?23:01
ubottuKDE bug 222620 in general "[4 4rc1 regression] cannot enter text in languages requiring commit (Japanese) using input methods through their Qt4 modules" [Normal,Unconfirmed]23:01
QuintasanCandidates work23:01
QuintasanIBus + this gtk thingy in tray23:01
ZoraelWith ibus, as soon as I hit enter to commit, the text disappears23:02
ZoraelWith UIM, it sticks to the cursor23:02
ZoraelAlso, try entering something (using Anthy) in Konqueror. Is input really slow?23:03
Quintasanoh shit23:03
Quintasanit actually disappears23:03
Quintasanyeah konq's very slow23:03
Zoraelsomething with either Qt4 or KDE is acting up, with nice input in some apps (Kopete, Konsole, etc), slow input in some (Konqueror, I think Amarok), and non-working in Kate/KWrite23:04
QuintasanZorael: and UIM works in both?23:04
ZoraelNo, UIM exhibits the same behavior, albeit in Kate/KWrite the text doesn't immediately disappear (it sticks to the cursor, see screencast attached to the bug report), and you can circumvent it by exporting QT_IM_MODULE=xim before starting the app itself23:05
dhillon-v10Quintasan: hi there, what's up23:05
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Quintasandhillon-v10: toying with input methods23:06
dhillon-v10Quintasan: nice :)23:06
ZoraelQuintasan: I'd still try UIM if I were you though, unless you're really gunning for ibus23:07
Quintasanwell I'm just playing with ibus to check if kimpanel works23:07
Quintasanbut it doesnt23:07
ZoraelAh, okay23:08
Zoraelno, instant plasma crash :323:08
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QuintasanZorael: no, just doing it until it stays in panel :D23:08
ZoraelAt least it's good to see that 222620 happens to more than me (for awareness). The other guy I mention in the description was running Arch, and for him it worked in 4.3.4 but not in 4.4rc1.23:10
QuintasanZorael: so you are not using ibus right? anthy + uim?23:11
ZoraelQuintasan: I'd say I use UIM, but currently trying out ibus. Both use an Anthy backend23:12
QuintasanZorael: uim-anthy, uim-qt, uim and uim-applet-kde should do the trick?23:14
ZoraelQuintasan: I think so, yeah. I'm not sure the repo uim-qt has the Qt4 panel, though. Mine's from ppa:japanese-testers/ppa23:14
QuintasanZorael: btw. you are from Japan?23:15
Zoraeluim-applet-kde is just a panel widget that doesn't really work23:15
Quintasanah okay23:15
ZoraelNo, I'm Swedish, but I've studied Japanese for some two years23:15
Quintasanokay, got uim from repo23:19
Guest47478seriously, Guest4747823:19
Guest47478freenode sucks23:19
Sputyeah, 47474 would've been way cooler!23:20
QuintasanZorael: mind telling me what uim backend you have selected?23:20
Quintasanuim, uim-systray or uim-toolbar-qt?23:20
QuintasanGuest47478: who the hell are you anyways? :P23:20
Guest47478this is my new nick, screw freenode23:20
QuintasanQuintasan:23:20
Quintasanno highlight for me :<23:21
QuintasanQuintasan23:21
ZoraelQuintasan: Well, since I have packages with the Qt4 panel/toolbar, I just use 'uim' and put a script in .kde/autostart to run uim-toolbar-qt4 upon login23:22
ZoraelQuintasan: pick uim-toolbar-qt or uim-systray, I'd say, if you don't have /usr/bin/uim-toolbar-qt4. Any gtk panel will be uglier than sin, obviously, since it's started before the QtCurve gtkrc thing gets exported23:22
Quintasanokay I have uim-toolbar-qt423:23
Quintasanseriously, Asian input is such a mess now that it makes me want to puke23:23
Quintasan:/23:23
Quintasanbrb23:24
nixternalthere23:25
QuintasanZorael: awesome23:28
QuintasanZorael:23:28
Quintasanurgh23:28
ZoraelQuintasan: Regarding Asian input, uim-qt should be packaged so that there's a proper uim-toolbar-qt4 im-switch option, but as it happens it isn't. - ibus isn't installing any ibus im-switch options for the all_ALL locale, so I need to manually edit /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/xinput-all_ALL. Skim (whilst now defunct-ish) installation is broken as per launchpad bug 40300423:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 403004 in skim "Skim doesn't work after installation, XIM_PROGRAM variable unset" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40300423:28
ZoraelQuintasan: uim-pref-qt4 for configuration, uim-toolbar-qt4 for the panel. It won't hide when using direct input, though. I reported it as a feature request to the uim bugzilla.23:30
QuintasanZorael: どもありがとう <-- No Kanji since I'm too new to japanese :P23:31
Zorael:323:31
Zoraelどういたしまして。23:31
ZoraelFWIW, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2569523:32
ubottuFreedesktop bug 25695 in libuim "Hide toolbar on direct input" [Enhancement,New]23:32
Quintasandouitashimashite?23:32
QuintasanZorael: already patched I see23:33
Zorael"You're welcome"23:33
QuintasanI will build package with that patch if you want :P23:33
ZoraelAh, that'd be lovely actually23:34
Quintasanuim-qt is the package?23:34
Zoraelyes, or so dpkg -S says23:35
ZoraelI think the other bug he mentions is https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13910, which shoots it in the foot by resetting the panel upon focus change, even if you minimize it by doubleclicking the panel edge as he describes. (unless I'm misinterpreting)23:37
ubottuFreedesktop bug 13910 in bridge: Qt "Unwanted IM reset on focus-out of Qt4 immodule" [Major,New]23:37
ZoraelKonqueror IME input slowdown bug at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2626523:42
ubottuFreedesktop bug 26265 in libuim "Slowness using uim in QT applications" [Normal,New]23:42
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Quintasanhuh23:46
Quintasanwtf23:46
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Guest72088dude, freenode sucks ass...they have shit docs, they change my nick before i can auth23:47
QuintasanZorael: uploading to ppa23:49
Quintasanshould be quick and painless23:49
Tm_Tone can auth when connecting, or auth no matter what nick in use23:49
QuintasanI wonder why guys maintaining the repo won't submit the patches to main repo23:49
Quintasanfirst "repo" should be PPA :P23:50
ZoraelQuintasan: ppa:quintasan/ppa?23:52
Quintasanyeah, wait before I test it :P23:52
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