[00:07] <Quintasan> Zorael: almost built
[00:07] <Quintasan> waiting on i386 :P
[00:09] <Quintasan> hmm guys, did anyone manage to share a printer via samba?
[00:15] <Zorael> Quintasan: I see it, I'll give it a shot.
[00:16] <Zorael> thanks
[00:20] <Quintasan> DAMN
[00:21] <Quintasan> Zorael: damn, please wait for a second, this damned dpatch doesn't add patch to apply list @_@
[00:21] <Zorael> :3
[00:22] <Quintasan> dpatchきらい <-- am I doing it right? :P
[00:23] <Zorael> kirai, yes :3
[00:23] <Quintasan> I hate dpatch
[00:23] <Quintasan> really
[00:23] <Quintasan> quilt is sooooo much better
[00:23] <Quintasan> <3 quilt
[00:24] <Quintasan> Zorael: 嫌い　<-- that's the kanji?
[00:24]  * Quintasan was guessing, really
[00:25]  * Quintasan hands cookies to Guest44311
[00:25] <Quintasan> :<
[00:26] <Zorael> Quintasan: it's hard to see in 7pt fonts, but yes, that looks like it
[00:27] <Quintasan> 7pt? oh wow, I would die using so small fonts on my screen
[00:28] <Zorael> 1024x600 on a 10" screen makes you very screen budget-aware :)
[00:29] <Quintasan> oh
[00:29] <Quintasan> 7pt on 23" == instant death to eyes
[00:30] <Zorael> Quintasan: If you're poking about in the packages, could you copy/paste the bits in uim-xim that creates the existing 'uim-toolbar-qt' choice in im-switch, into a uim-toolbar-qt4 one? The files the choices refer to are at /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/
[00:30] <Zorael> or just change uim-toolbar-qt to start the qt4 panel, since the qt3 panel is really of dubious use at this point
[00:31] <maco> Mamarok: i found the sidebar thingy that was in the kontact screenshot! apparently there's an invisible handle you can grab one in every 5-10 tries to change the size of the sidebar from "not visible at all" to "takes up space"
[00:33] <Quintasan> Zorael: urgh I'll try, but I think this package needs more love and update in Ubuntu
[00:33] <Zorael> Quintasan: all right, no worries :)
[00:33] <Quintasan> those patches in japanese-testers could go to Ubuntu package instead of sitting somewhere in PPA
[00:33] <Quintasan> I'll look around for help and get it done
[00:35] <Quintasan> Zorael: uploaded new version with patch applied
[00:35] <Quintasan> hope it will work this time
[00:55] <ScottK> Sigh.  How many channel notifications does it take to get through a day?
[01:26] <crimsun> ScottK: none! I ignore them in my server buffer ;-)
[01:27] <ScottK> Heh.  Yeah, I think I'll set that up now.
[01:28] <ScottK> Actually I'm not sure I can.
[01:55] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[02:20] <ScottK> New design metric for a networking project: What's the combination of topology and cable reuse that results in me have to crimp the minimum number of rj45 connectors....
[02:49] <nixternal> ScottK: wifi :p
[02:50] <nixternal> you could also go back to coax
[02:53] <ScottK> Gotta get the internet to the wifi.
[02:53] <nixternal> that is only 1 cable, therefor 2 crimps
[02:58] <freinhard> hi! any plans to update pykde/sip? software properties kde doesn't work with kde 4.4rc2 installed (wrong SIP api version)
[03:24] <nixternal> quickly is making some good noise
[03:24] <nixternal> seems people are using it quite often now in the gnome side, or ubuntu side rather
[03:26] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: do you have an idea where the code for ubuntu brainstorm is? I need to fix a typo :)
[03:28] <nixternal> no idea...worry about docs and not brainstorm
[03:30] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: wait there was a typo in docs. ??
[03:30]  * nixternal heads back to date night
[03:30] <nixternal> I am sure there are plenty...need to pull in all of the docs and freeze the branch tomorrow
[03:30] <nixternal> if all the docs are done, go fix the world then
[03:30] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: okay :) will look through everything that I did again
[03:31] <nixternal> 0 active reviews or unmerged proposals
[03:31] <nixternal> means I am still waiting for docs from you and others
[03:31] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: yeah, I was going to mail you so its convinient for you to push them
[03:32] <nixternal> mailing isn't convenient though, requesting a merge is far more convenient
[03:32] <nixternal> as I can look through the diffs
[03:32] <nixternal> headin' back out for a bit
[04:11] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: the merge proposal is turning out stupid, it says like the last time I have modified 53 files and a diff over 7400 lines so I deleted the proposal, I think I made an error while pushing the branch up or something, so what should I do now??
[04:21] <ScottK> dhillon-v10: My advice is he can better answer that question if he can see the branch, so push it again.
[04:22] <dhillon-v10> ScottK: I just pushed it like a few minutes ago and then deleted it so should i do that again
[04:23] <dhillon-v10> ScottK: I guess I answered my own question :)
[04:23] <ScottK> OK
[04:26] <dhillon-v10> ScottK: its done: https://code.launchpad.net/~dhillon-v10/kubuntu-docs/dhillon-v10/+merge/18329 thanks :)
[04:41] <nixternal> dhillon-v10: something isn't right, 53 files...actually everything...don't know what you are doing on your end that is different
[04:48] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: probably some problem in creating the branch, yeah I think that should be it, sorry for that but I did check some docs. and no typos so far, still looking over 2 more docs. for typos
[04:53] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: do you think I should create a new branch and push my stuff again, if that fixes the stuff
[04:59] <Tm_T> nixternal: so it did hit planets, excellent
[07:56] <shtylman> Riddell ScottK JontheEchidna: are we gonna package the kdm theme? also... how are we gonna handle the wallpaper mess? I would think you guys want the package size smaller?
[08:09] <fabo> Riddell: how have you created kubuntu_07_phonon_4.3.80.diff patch ?
[14:19] <schmidtm> i just filed bugreport #515138 regarding a problem with kded4
[14:28] <Zorael> Does the Amarok in the beta ppa work for anyone? It insta-crashes upon start here, even after having wiped its settings. (Thought I'd ask before submitting a bug report.)
[14:57] <vishalrao> just a quick "thank you" for the folks who did "ubuntu developer week" from a random-joe-user-turning-drive-by-patcher :)
[15:10] <JontheEchidna> anybody up for a quick revu? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-smooth-tasks
[15:11] <JontheEchidna> hmm, the orig didn't make the upload somehow
[15:15] <JontheEchidna> fixed in new upload
[15:26] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: and you probably would need to request removal for plasma-widget-stasks
[15:26] <Quintasan> a) broken
[15:26] <Quintasan> b) unmaintained
[15:26] <JontheEchidna> yeah, that's the plan
[15:26] <JontheEchidna> I actually did this packaging because another stasks bug got filed today :P
[15:27] <Quintasan> well I got the input issue solved out
[15:27] <Quintasan> it will work when your locale is set to jp_JP
[15:27] <JontheEchidna> neat
[15:27] <Quintasan> but if you have another one
[15:28] <Quintasan> like pl_PL here
[15:28] <Quintasan> you need to do im-switch -z pl_PL -s ibus <or uim>
[15:28] <Quintasan> then ibus will be default one and you don't need to change it by hand
[15:29] <Quintasan> I wonder how do we implement it :/
[16:01] <ryanakca> Hmmm... could somebody tell me if a new "feauture" of KTimeTracker is a regression? Previously, KTimeTracker allowed me to modify the total time. Fo example, say I started working on X at 1:00, but at 1:30 realized that I forgot to start it, I used to be able to add 30 minutes. Now, I have to change the times between which I was timing, and to add say 15 minutes, (unintuitively), I'd have to start then stop the timer for a task, then ...
[16:01] <ryanakca> ... manually modify the start / stop times...
[16:02] <ryanakca> It's much more complicated and much less pleasant...
[16:20] <ari-tczew> is there any sponsor for main?
[17:04] <ScottK> shtylman: I'm leaving that for Riddell to figure out.
[17:07] <yuriy> is kdebindings broken in Lucid? looking at bug 514796
[17:09] <yuriy> it's failing on parsing the UI file
[17:13] <ScottK> We just had our first 4.4 kdebindings upload, so it wouldn't suprise me if it has issues.
[17:13] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Be sure to put that acpi fix on your core-dev application.
[17:13] <ScottK> I can verify it fixed the problem for me.  Thanks.
[17:18] <JontheEchidna> Not really my fix; I just made a debdiff out yofel's patch. I suppose in retrospect I should have made that more clear in debian/changelog
[17:56] <Riddell> shtylman: what wallpaper mess?
[17:56] <hunger> Lex79: I read that nepomuk is supposed to work now? I still have some issues with it, are you the right person to ask about it?
[17:59] <Lex79> what's the problem? btw I don't think it's yet ready to work
[17:59] <hunger> Would it be possible to have strigi not index svn, cvs, git, hg, bzr, etc. directories by default in kubuntu? My index size went down from 1.1GiB to 25MiB after excluding that...
[17:59] <hunger> Lex79: Is it supposed to work? I think it does for me, but the config dialog claims that strigi never started.
[18:00] <hunger> Lex79: No. of files indexed is always "Calculating", too, so I am a bit confused.
[18:00] <Lex79> I don't know exactly, maybe it's a virtuoso issue
[18:01] <Lex79> we need to wait the new upstream release of virtuoso to see what happens
[18:01] <hunger> Lex79: Virtuoso is installed and index size does give some values.
[18:01] <hunger> Lex79: OK. I was just wondering since I saw your name after "Done" in some wiki page yesterday:-)
[18:02] <Lex79> well, same here but I can't find my files via dolphin for example
[18:02] <hunger> Lex79: Something else that is annoying: I can do Alt-F2, do nepomuksearch:/something and get a dolphin with lots of files.
[18:03] <hunger> Lex79: But I can not open any one of them. That makes the whole thing kind of useless:-)
[18:04] <Lex79> yes, I hope all issues will be fixed with new soprano and new virtuoso :)
[18:04] <hunger> Lex79: Trying to open anything gets me "File or folder strange-nepomuk-name-with-some-hash does not exist.
[18:05] <hunger> Lex79: Great. Poke me if you need testers or something.
[18:05] <ejat> Lex79: when it will be release ? soon ?
[18:05] <Lex79> for soprano I think yes, for virtuoso nobody knows
[18:32] <shtylman> Riddell: there are (including the kdm theme) 3 copies of the same wallpaper
[18:32] <shtylman> there is one for /usr/share/wallpapers
[18:32] <shtylman> one for the ksplash
[18:32] <shtylman> and one for kfm
[18:32] <shtylman> *kdm
[18:32] <shtylman> and in each case there are multiple resolution versions
[18:32] <shtylman> so we have lots of duplicate files and wasted space
[18:33] <shtylman> (I talked a bit about it in my kubuntu-devel mailing list post)
[18:45] <neversfelde> I got an answer from upstream about basket in Lucid. They expect a release before FF and wants us to ship the new version. I also prepared a package, so that we can update once it is there.
[18:46] <neversfelde> guess it is best to send a mail to the list to prevent doubled work on this
[18:46] <Lex79> neversfelde: yes
[18:47] <neversfelde> Lex79: was rc3 delayed?
[18:48] <Lex79> it's not tagged yet http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/
[18:49] <Lex79> I'm wondering about the reasons to release a RC3 when the final release will be tagged on 3 February
[18:49] <neversfelde> +1
[18:50] <neversfelde> they want to check the tarballs, but they should have already done it
[18:51] <Lex79> If RC3 will be tagged, I think we don't want release that (I hope), since after 3-4 days we have to packaging the final
[18:52] <Lex79> it seems for me a  doubled work
[18:52] <Lex79> and no make sense
[19:25] <ScottK> I'd say it shoulnd't be that hard to do and if it does uncover something, so much the better.
[19:30] <neversfelde> I have plenty of time the next days, so I can help :)
[19:35] <sheytan> Hey guys ;)
[19:36] <sheytan> Maybe someone here will answer my question: Why sun-java6-plugin depens on firefox?
[19:38] <rbelem> sheytan, maybe because of npapi
[19:38] <rbelem> just a guess
[19:38] <rbelem> :-)
[19:38] <sheytan> rbelem what is it,  and how can i install java plugin when i onnly use chrome? :P
[19:40] <rbelem> sheytan, it is the netscape plugin api
[19:41] <ScottK> Neither Firefox, Sun-java6, nor Chrome are Kubuntu apps, so this is almost certainly not the best place to ask.
[19:41] <sheytan> rbelem  is there a way to install java plugin anyway?
[19:41] <sheytan> ScottK but these are kubuntu packages.  Someone did make them ;]
[19:42] <tsimpson> it depends on firefox or xulrunner
[19:42] <ScottK> sheytan: Kubuntu and Ubuntu share the same repository
[19:42] <rbelem> sheytan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/366378/
[19:42] <ScottK> There's nothing Kubuntu specific about them.
[19:42] <rbelem> sheytan, it depend on one of these browsers
[19:42] <rbelem> s/browsers/packages
[19:43] <sheytan> rbelem ScottK so there's no way to install java plugin only?
[19:44] <rbelem> sheytan, nope
[19:44] <ScottK> sheytan: I don't know.  All I'm saying is this isn't the right place to be asking
[19:44] <ScottK> Probably #ubuntu-mozillateam would be better.
[19:44] <sheytan> ok, guys, thanks ;)
[20:20] <Quintasan> Anyone knows how can I make all "make" jobs to be run with -j6 ?
[20:21] <shtylman> export MAKEFLAGS=-j6
[20:21] <shtylman> Quintasan: ^
[20:21] <Quintasan> shtylman: thanks
[20:26] <Quintasan> yay, magnet support in new KTorrent
[20:26] <Quintasan> can't waint
[20:26] <Quintasan> wait*
[20:43] <Quintasan> this is just great, I launch kvm machine from command line - I have network inside kvm, I run it from virt-manage == no network :/
[20:45] <neversfelde> Quintasan: what is magnet support?
[20:52] <Quintasan> neversfelde: torrents without trackers
[20:54] <neversfelde> ok, I don't know anything about it, so I cannot imagine what they are for. Was only curious.
[20:54] <neversfelde> thanks
[21:04] <neversfelde> ScottK: you told me once not to mention a new maintainer in debian/changelog. Do I have to say someting about a new homepage?
[21:06] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: just got your email from the merge, so what do you say, should I create a new branch and then push all my work in there ? then you can easily merge it in
[21:21] <Quintasan> Lex79: \o
[21:21] <Lex79> o/
[21:23] <Quintasan> yay
[21:23] <Quintasan> approved to kde-l18n-pl
[21:23] <Quintasan> :3
[21:27] <ari-tczew> kaffeine 1.0 pre3 released, I'm on it, will done @ weekend
[21:46] <neversfelde> so to the batcave? :)
[22:13] <nixternal> dhillon-v10: bzr branch lp:kubuntu-docs
[22:13] <nixternal> make your changes, bzr commit them
[22:14] <nixternal> then bzr push them, it should push them to a personal directory of yours for kubuntu-docs
[22:14] <nixternal> creating a new branch and pushing everything in it, is what is causing it to want to overwrite everything
[22:30] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: yeah I'll do that, another question: while packaging pbuilder tells me Score is -9850 what is that ??
[22:32] <nixternal> depends on which packages aren't being satisfied in the depends
[22:32] <nixternal> i never pay attention to that score, as its meaning is useless to me
[22:32] <dhillon-v10> Aptitude couldn't satisfy the build dependencies
[22:32] <dhillon-v10> E: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed.
[22:32] <dhillon-v10> that's what I get in the end of the build
[22:32] <nixternal> failed on what
[22:33] <nixternal> which package(s) is it failing on
[22:34] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: I am building this one package for a merge called: xserver-xorg-video-vmware do you want me to pastebin the output its not long
[22:37] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/366470/
[22:55] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: what is the Debian channel in OFTC? I don't remmeber :(
[22:56] <Lex79> *remember
[22:56] <JontheEchidna> Lex79: debian-qt-kde
[22:59] <Lex79> thanks
[22:59] <Quintasan> night
[23:02] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: I talked with fabo about the issue, I'm happy that they talked on it...can you paste their conversation?
[23:03] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: SUCCESS :) 6 files modified
[23:05] <JontheEchidna> Lex79: I'll just give you the whole backlog :D
[23:05] <JontheEchidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/366487/
[23:05] <Lex79> ok :)
[23:07] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: This might interest you; notification design for 4.5: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/design/notifications?view=markup
[23:08] <Lex79> oh, I looked for 23.00-00.00 pm but you're still on ~18.00 :)
[23:08] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[23:14] <Lex79> uhm no decision, doesn't help :(
[23:15] <Lex79> btw I tried to building Qt without phonon stuff in the control file, and I've this issue
[23:15] <Lex79> http://pastebin.ca/1772117
[23:16] <Lex79> since webkit needs libphonon shared library which is not present anymore in the packages
[23:23] <neversfelde> ah notifiactions
[23:24] <neversfelde> Lex79: I tried a build of colibri that fixed the issue, you remember?
[23:24] <Lex79> yes
[23:24] <neversfelde> it does not work :(
[23:25] <Lex79> uhm :( did you disable plasma notification? iirc you sholud disable it and enable colibri in system settings
[23:26] <neversfelde> as I have to talk to agateau about these new tray menus and you are busy with phonon, shall I talk to him aboti it, too?
[23:26] <neversfelde> Lex79: I restarted and there is no colibri in systemsettings
[23:26] <neversfelde> and I did dot disable it
[23:27] <Lex79> yes take my package please :)
[23:27] <neversfelde> I'll have a look at it
[23:27] <Lex79> no colibri in notifications in system settings neversfelde?
[23:27] <neversfelde> Lex79: nope
[23:27] <Lex79> read the readme file in the sources
[23:29] <Lex79> neversfelde: Colibri installs a configuration module in
[23:29] <Lex79> the "Appearance" category.
[23:29] <Lex79> from the readme file
[23:29] <neversfelde> Lex79: yep, I know, but could not find it
[23:30] <Lex79> ok it's broke then lol
[23:30] <neversfelde> I'll have a look, it is important for us to ship it with lucid, because it was a standard feature in karmic. So it sould be available in 10.04 in my opinion
[23:31] <Lex79> agree
[23:31] <neversfelde> also I like it :)
[23:31] <Lex79> :)