[00:57] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-gnomeshell.png
[00:57] <DanaG> heh, there's gnome-shell on my netbook.
[00:57] <DanaG> Inefficient use of space.
[01:00] <penguin42> DanaG: I really dislike it
[01:01] <DanaG> So do I.
[01:01] <mstftsm> i have a problem bug 199234
[01:03] <mstftsm> wiki m4
[01:03] <yofel> mstftsm: ok, and what's the problem?
[01:04] <mstftsm> yofel, sorry that was a mistake, writing in a wrong window
[01:05] <yofel> ^^
[04:13] <rwt> Hello, I am having issues with my sound. I am running ubuntu 9.10, kernel 2.6.32.7, and am on a lenovo ideapad y550. For some reason no sound will play at all.
[04:25] <DanaG> argh, every time pulseaudio starts, it mutes all my sound cards.
[04:26] <DanaG> oh, and I do still have this issue: http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/678
[04:41] <aboSamoor> ubuntu does not read the continuous keystrokes of my keyboard !
[04:49] <DanaG> ARGH, STUPID "pyuuuu" sound every time I minimize a window!
[04:50] <DanaG> pyuu!
[04:50] <hyperstream> pie you ?
[04:56] <rr72> hey all, on bootup i get an error about kqemu NAME="%k" breaking things in udev
[04:57] <rr72> do i just simply remove name="%k" from the first line of the file /lib/udev/60-kqemu.rules?
[04:57] <rr72> or the proper file, sorry it's not perfect, doing it from memory
[05:29] <petsounds> hi guys.. any idea why sun java only work with google chrome not with firefox 3.6? i'm on kubuntu lucid. thanks.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2075532/UBUNTU/Ubuntu%20Screenshot/snapshot8.png
[05:32] <IdleOne> petsounds: #ubuntu+1
[05:32] <IdleOne> oh lol
[05:32] <IdleOne> sorry forgot where I was
[05:32] <IdleOne> :)
[05:32] <petsounds> it's ok bro :)
[05:32] <IdleOne> hehe
[05:34] <alkisg> Since 3-4 weeks a new applet is shown on the systray, which allows me to switch keyboard layouts. Unfortunately, this applet is completely blank. Is this by design? Or am I missing some flag images?
[05:58] <DanaG>  argh, stupid gtk... makes a "boomf" sound upon pressing the "open" button, and then a metallic "clunk" upon dialog actually drawing.
[05:59] <DanaG> Or rather, ctrl-o: boomf.  click cancel: "click".  dialog close: "clunk."
[07:42] <Snowboarder> d
[07:47] <Bacta> How does the Ubuntu Software Centre fit in with SPM? Will it eventually replace it?
[10:17] <Name141> !ot
[11:41] <dupondje> sabnzbdplus seems broken :(
[11:46] <jakubo> hi there
[11:46] <jakubo> i got  problem with very unstable network, and my computer keeps freezing when downloading files via firefox
[11:50] <jakubo> hello? is there anybody out there?
[11:53] <Bacta> Just nod if you can hear meeeeee
[11:53] <jakubo> hi bacta
[11:53] <Bacta> I would suggest you take it to #ubuntu if it's not about Lynx
[11:53] <jakubo> and then there were.. 2....
[11:54] <jakubo> in fact it IS about lynx
[11:54] <jakubo> i have been linked here from the #ubuntu irc
[11:57] <Bacta> Perhaps you should stay then
[12:03] <jakubo> back.....
[12:04] <jakubo> ok.. still no one here?
[12:08] <jakubo> nobody?
[12:13] <yofel> jakubo: here yes, but no idea why downloading something would freeze your pc
[12:13] <aboSamoor> can anyone help me, ubuntu now do not read continuous keystrokes
[12:15] <jakubo> ok
[12:15] <jakubo> and network problems?
[12:15] <penguin42> aboSamoor: You mean it doesn't autorepeat?
[12:15] <aboSamoor> penguin42, yeah
[12:15] <penguin42> aboSamoor: Yeh I've literally just noticed the same thing
[12:16] <jakubo> aand 2 other things.... nvidia closed driver wont install properly, and wecam doesnt work in skype
[12:18] <penguin42> aboSamoor: You can turn it back oon in keyboard prreferences - but it doesn't look like the sliders are set up right - even the slowest speed is causing me some repeats
[12:19] <yofel> jakubo: nvidia won't install right when installed from "Hardware Drivers" - known issue. Install it manually from a terminal if you need it
[12:20] <aboSamoor> penguin42, it works. It was changed automatically
[12:20] <penguin42> aboSamoor: Yeh
[12:22] <jakubo> actually i dont really need it, id probably use the nouveau driver if it was ready, but theres a whole bunch of changes if i try to install it via synaptic
[12:22] <jakubo> whcich will probably change with the releaseof the next kernel
[12:24] <penguin42> aboSamoor: I've just reported it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/515108
[12:26] <jakubo> so, there hasnt been anyone complaining about network problems right?
[12:26] <penguin42> jakubo: Since I'm connected to you, it seems OK!
[12:27] <jakubo> it happens to disconnect now and then
[12:27] <jakubo> sometimes its beter sometimes its worse
[12:27] <jakubo> and i ouldnzt probably tell you if it got worse could i?
[12:36] <jakubo> hmm... maybe its a firefox issue.....
[12:37] <jakubo> but the cam?
[12:37] <jakubo> is it because i loaded the ubuntu deb from skype.com?
[12:40] <jakubo> oh, and can you please give some kind of output on the live cd that its NOT POSSIBLE to install on raid systems
[12:44] <penguin42> I doubt your skype deb is causing you random network issues
[12:44] <jakubo> by the way.... networking: the firmware for my pci card isl 3886pci wasnt provided on the cd, fortunately i had it on stick
[12:44] <jakubo> i didnt say that
[12:45] <jakubo> i said the cam doesnt work on skype
[12:45] <penguin42> oh, sorr y- you had typed so much I lost track
[12:45] <jakubo> much?
[12:45] <jakubo> and in cheese there is only one picture
[12:46] <jakubo> well... a frozen cam so to say
[12:48] <jakubo> aaand another question: RAID: do i need to attach the hard disks to different ide cables? does it even work with ide?
[12:49] <penguin42> jakubo: What type of RAID - is this hardware RAID or software RAID?
[12:49] <jakubo> soft
[12:50] <penguin42> it works with any block device, so IDE works fine, you are best to put it on seperate IDE channels
[12:50] <jakubo> ic
[12:50] <jakubo> what do you suggest for stripe size? 4KB for root and 512KB for home partition?
[12:51] <penguin42> I normally go with the defaults - heck who knows what good values are!
[12:51] <jakubo> there s so much about it on the net....
[12:51] <jakubo> it was said that its takes much time to concaternate the things back....
[12:55] <jakubo> no suggestion for the skype thing?
[12:57] <jakubo> ok, ill try the seperate ide cable thing, maybe that was somehow connected with download of larger files..... (or esle it might be damaged hardware..)
[12:57] <jakubo> thx for the advice
[13:25] <Apacheuk> hi all, have a query regarding Testdrive and lucid is anyone able to help?
[13:27]  * penguin42 doesn't know testdrive
[13:28] <Apacheuk> https://launchpad.net/testdrive
[13:29] <penguin42> oh neat
[13:30]  * penguin42 tries
[13:31] <Apacheuk> Now I could be wrong about this next bit, but I was under the impression that it only downloaded the new/changed packages each time you ran it
[13:31] <Apacheuk> but I don't see that, it downloads the complete iso each time which is a pain
[13:31] <penguin42> yeh I don't see any mention of it being clever like that in the man page
[13:32] <coz_> Apacheuk,  actually  I am not familiar enough with this to comment
[13:33] <Apacheuk> Hmmm I heard about it on a uupc podcast I think.... will have to go back and re listen to the episode
[13:33] <Apacheuk> cheers anyway.... thought I would ask, you never know
[13:33] <coz_> Apacheuk,  I am sure someone at some point is familiar with it :)
[13:34] <Apacheuk> its season 2 episode 19
[13:34] <coz_> Apacheuk,  on that link you posed is a get involved section.... you may be able to contact someone from that link
[13:35] <Apacheuk> yeah I might do that after I re listen, jsut to make sure I didn't dream it
[13:35] <coz_> Apacheuk,  sounds like a plan :)
[13:36] <penguin42> Apacheuk: I've just had a read through it - it's just a shell script, it's not got anything smart like that
[13:37] <Apacheuk> yeah... seems that way... must have dreamt it :)
[13:37] <Apacheuk> wishful thinking
[13:37] <Apacheuk> would be really useful
[13:37] <penguin42> it's a bit difficult if they're working on an iso, because the whole iso tends to change on a rebuild
[13:38] <penguin42> Apacheuk: What you can do is install into a vm and keep that vm updated just updating the packages
[13:38] <penguin42> (I say that, although my last attempt to install lucid in a vm didn't work)
[13:42] <Apacheuk> OK, so am listening to the episode where the Developer talks about Testdrive, and he definitely  says it's an incremental download, so it should download the full iso each day
[13:42] <Apacheuk> If you listen to http://uupc.tonywhitmore.co.uk/uupc/s02/e19/uupc_s02e19_high.ogg at position 9.10 or there abouts
[13:49] <Apacheuk> OK, so am listening to the episode where the Developer talks about Testdrive, and he definitely  says it's an incremental download, so it should'nt download the full iso each day
[13:50] <penguin42> hmm odd, I can see it's using an rsync
[13:51] <penguin42> I guess it's possible if the isos are actually fairly consistent, rsync cna do some stuff - but I wouldn't think it could cope with an iso rebuild
[13:52] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:52] <penguin42> Hi BluesKaj
[13:52] <penguin42> Apacheuk: Out of interest, did you find it worked?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> hi penguin42
[13:54]  * penguin42 just tried the netbook one and it had horrible rendering issues
[13:55] <Apacheuk> yeah, as far as downloading and getting the vm up and running its brilliant
[13:55] <Apacheuk> works everytime
[13:55] <penguin42> Apacheuk: I actually use virt-manager for fiddling with kvm
[13:58] <Apacheuk> I usually just use virtual-box
[13:58]  * penguin42 is using kvm these days
[14:04] <BluesKaj> you guys running windows inside linux or ..?
[14:04] <penguin42> no, linux inside linux in my case
[14:04] <BluesKaj> why ??
[14:05] <penguin42> trying things like the install images, and kubuntu inside my ubuntu
[14:05] <Apacheuk> mainly for testing the daily builds of lucid in my case
[14:07] <BluesKaj> do you access data and media files etc from one to the other?
[14:07] <Apacheuk> you can do yes
[14:07] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:08] <BUGabundo> VB shared folders
[14:08] <BluesKaj> yeah
[14:08] <BUGabundo> oh guud afternoon everyone
[14:08] <BUGabundo> how is the Freenode upgrade treating you all?
[14:08] <BUGabundo> got mine via SSL :D
[14:09] <penguin42> I haven't noticed any difference
[14:13] <om26er> its cool as now your name don't remain in use
[14:15] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, connected via SSL ?
[14:15] <BUGabundo> yep
[14:15] <BUGabundo> whois me
[14:15] <BUGabundo> om26er: ??
[14:15] <BluesKaj> aha
[14:16] <BluesKaj> gonna reconnect ,brb
[14:16] <om26er> BUGabundo, yes
[14:16] <BUGabundo> I wonder if he knows he got to use port 7000
[14:17] <BUGabundo> om26er: I don't get what you said
[14:17] <om26er> BUGabundo, as of today if I get disconnected unintentionally my name dont stay in use at freenode it awesome
[14:17] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[14:18] <BUGabundo> no more ghosts :D
[14:18] <om26er> ya
[14:18] <BUGabundo> but chanserv is dead on many #s
[14:20] <BluesKaj> hmm BUGabundo , I get errors and unable to connect messages, which servers are SSL enabled ?
[14:21] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: I said it just after you left
[14:21] <BUGabundo> port 7000 or 7010
[14:21] <BUGabundo> not _standard_ 6667 and 6669
[14:22] <popey> Apacheuk: yes, it will only download changes
[14:22] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: go it now?
[14:23] <Apacheuk> popey: seems to download the whole iso each day
[14:24] <BluesKaj> ok BUGabundo , changed ports
[14:25] <BluesKaj> ok done !
[14:25] <popey> Apacheuk: I'm not surprised tbh, its a compressed image, its _going_ to change almost completely every day
[14:25] <BluesKaj> fast
[14:25] <om26er> any indicator applet plugin for xchat (that dont close on minimize)?
[14:26] <om26er> *on close
[14:26] <BUGabundo> popey: Apacheuk: zsync for daily isos?
[14:26] <BUGabundo> i use that, and download about 30% of the image weekly
[14:26] <popey> i think testdrive defaults to rsync
[14:27] <Apacheuk> popey: I did wonder about that, like Penguin42 said earlier
[14:27] <BUGabundo> let me run it just now
[14:27] <BluesKaj> hmm, it's giving away my ip...dunno if I like that
[14:27] <BUGabundo> zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[14:27] <BUGabundo> Username: ~kaj@unaffiliated/blueskaj
[14:27] <BUGabundo> no IP here
[14:28] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:28] <BUGabundo> Read lucid-desktop-amd64.iso. Target 77.3% complete.
[14:28] <BUGabundo> popey: Apacheuk ^^^^^^
[14:28] <popey> BUGabundo: yeah, i know about zsync, Apacheuk is talking about testdrive
[14:28] <BUGabundo> -rw------- 1 bugabundo bugabundo 693M 2010-01-27 22:42 lucid-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:28] <popey> and that it uses rsync by default
[14:28] <BUGabundo> from 4 days ago
[14:28] <BUGabundo> ahhhh sorry
[14:28] <BUGabundo> lost that part :(
[14:31] <Apacheuk> so it's probably not a bug on Testdrives part then
[14:31] <penguin42> the world really needs a shared bookmark thing for firefox/chrome
[14:34] <BUGabundo> penguin42: +100
[14:40] <aboSamoor> can anyone help me with their hotmail configuration on empthy, it gives me a network error ?
[14:41] <BUGabundo> humm
[14:41] <BUGabundo> those don't compute
[14:41] <BUGabundo> hotmail and IM app ?!?
[14:41] <BUGabundo> do you mean MSN ?
[14:43] <chiggavelli> is there made any fix for fqdlr
[14:44] <chiggavelli> There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.
[14:44] <chiggavelli> No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly.
[14:44] <chiggavelli> Please install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig.
[14:44] <chiggavelli> installed that one ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run
[14:45] <chiggavelli> but still ignores it
[14:45] <chiggavelli> after reboot im getting low level but all colours showing nrml
[14:51] <om26er> aboSamoor, see if  the port number zero
[14:51] <aboSamoor> om26er, it is not
[14:52] <om26er> aboSamoor, is it 1863?
[14:53] <om26er> aboSamoor, and whats the server address
[14:54] <aboSamoor> om26er, messenger.hotmail.com:1863
[14:54] <om26er> aboSamoor, quit empathy and then type this in terminal and start empathy again sudo pkill telepathy
[14:55] <BUGabundo> sudo pkill ?
[14:55] <BUGabundo> aggressive are we ?
[14:55] <om26er> it will kill mission-control and telepathy-butterfly
[14:56] <aboSamoor> om26er, did not work
[14:57] <om26er> aboSamoor, are you putting @hotmail  ?
[14:57] <aboSamoor> om26er, no
[14:57] <om26er> aboSamoor, lol do it
[14:58] <aboSamoor> om26er, this is why people are using gmail ;) :). thanks
[14:58] <om26er> aboSamoor, btw gtalk in empathy also require @
[14:58] <aboSamoor> om26er, lol
[14:59] <om26er> aboSamoor, :)
[15:51] <BUGabundo> I'm trolling.... sorry... feld pissed https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/509079/comments/7
[15:54] <yofel> o.O
[15:56] <yofel> this is somewhat... basic funtionality
[15:56] <yofel> more like, everybody's used to it...
[15:57] <BUGabundo> I don't care
[15:57] <BUGabundo> they can stuff it
[15:57] <BUGabundo> :(
[16:00] <penguin42> It's a bit weird that thre is so little standardisation in tab behaviour
[16:05] <BUGabundo> don't even get me started on that
[16:05] <BUGabundo> anyone suggesting a filemanager to replace Nautilus?
[16:06] <BUGabundo> or wants to hack around and fork upstream ?
[16:07] <penguin42> moving it should be easy
[16:07] <aboSamoor> how can I ask for packaging sagemath for the latest version 3.4.1, while the one available is 3.0.5dfsg-4ubuntu1
[16:07] <penguin42> BUGabundo: The file manager in xubuntu is incredibly quick
[16:08] <yofel> aboSamoor: maybe check what happened to the debian maintainer?
[16:08] <BUGabundo> penguin42: and funtions worth?
[16:08] <yofel> aboSamoor: and the folks in -motu should be able to help you better for this
[16:09] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Not sure, I don't use it much
[16:10] <BUGabundo> ahah
[16:10] <penguin42> BUGabundo: The thing that's annoying me on nautilus is bad integration with workspaces, so if you open a folder in one workkspace and then click on it to open in another it doesn't do anything at all - I want the directory to appear one way or another
[16:11] <BUGabundo> hen?
[16:11] <BUGabundo> don't follow
[16:11] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Double click on documents, move workspace, now what happens if you double click on documents?
[16:11] <BUGabundo> checking
[16:11] <BUGabundo> opens a new wind
[16:12] <BUGabundo> so ?
[16:12] <BUGabundo> its what I expect
[16:12] <BUGabundo> FYI http://boot.kernel.org/
[16:12] <penguin42> hmm, why isn't this the same as the behaviour I get at work
[16:13] <penguin42> BUGabundo: It's the case if I click 'open directories in their own new window' in the behaviour
[16:22] <BUGabundo> can some one check the usb md5 for me ? http://www.netboot.me/help
[16:24] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Just want me to download and md5 it?
[16:24] <penguin42> Yep, doesn't match - I get 2f2e02....
[16:24] <BUGabundo> thanks
[16:24] <BUGabundo> me neither
[16:25] <BUGabundo> we will email them
[16:28] <BUGabundo> http://github.com/Arachnid/netboot.me/issues/issue/21
[16:31] <thopiekar> hi
[16:32] <thopiekar> razertek: I just "fixed" my problem by doing a clean install with a daily lucid build cd..
[16:33] <thopiekar> but I'm definitly sure that there was a issue with loading a service but somehow the name wasn't shown..
[16:34] <thopiekar> but after testing lucid a day I can definitly say that its stable enough for a alpha.. there are just some preformace problems on kde4 but gnome works well :P
[16:34] <thopiekar> GREAT JOB!
[16:52] <penguin42> yeh it seems pretty good
[16:54] <Volkodav> thunar is pretty quick
[16:54] <penguin42> ah yeh that's what I was thinking of
[19:11] <seren> is nepomuk/strigi supposed to work at the moment on lucid ?
[19:11] <seren> because while I haved indexec my whole hdd, I can't find anything
[19:11] <seren> neither through krunner nor dolpin search bar
[19:24] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: do you get any records of ppl booting xubuntu on old powerpcs?
[19:25] <charlie-tca> I don't keep records, but yes, there are several people using xubuntu on powerpcs. There are ports available for that
[19:25] <BUGabundo> link please?
[19:25] <guest_89> how can i upgrade to lucid α x64 from karmic x64 ?
[19:26] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/
[19:26] <BUGabundo> guest_89: $ update-manager -d
[19:27] <charlie-tca> guest_89: when I tried yesterday, it was broken. You should be able to use update-manager -d as the release notes state.
[19:27] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: AFAIK those don't boot directly
[19:27] <charlie-tca> why not?
[19:27] <BUGabundo> plus port work seem to have stall
[19:27] <charlie-tca> Are you sure it doesn't have an intel chip?
[19:27] <BUGabundo> ahah
[19:28] <guest_89> has an amd64 k10
[19:28] <BUGabundo> I'm talking in the 3rd person
[19:28] <charlie-tca> Those do work, at least 8.10 and 0.04
[19:28] <charlie-tca> 9.04
[19:29] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: I'll pass it along
[19:29] <BUGabundo> thanks
[19:29] <BUGabundo> will try to report back
[19:30] <charlie-tca> they are running on several systems.
[19:30] <charlie-tca> Might send them to #ubuntu-ppc on freenode
[19:32] <charlie-tca> guest_89: your chip shouldn't matter, the upgrade procedure should be the same.
[19:35] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: seems the prob is with X, it always fails to get a proper resolution
[19:37] <guest_89> BUGabundo, will i have to reinstall the drivers or anything after upgrading to 10.04α ?
[19:37] <BUGabundo> of course
[19:38] <guest_89> is it cleaing my /home ?
[19:38] <BUGabundo> of course not
[19:38] <BUGabundo> but backups are *always* adviced
[19:38] <guest_89> lol thanks
[19:38] <guest_89> yea yea of course
[19:39] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: not the ports fault, you can get the same issue with any of the installs
[19:39] <BUGabundo> hum
[19:39] <guest_89> whens 10.04β coming?
[19:40] <BUGabundo> guest_89: see /topic
[19:40] <BUGabundo> !shedule > guest_89
[19:40] <guest_89> !schedule > guest_89
[19:40] <guest_89> :P
[19:40] <BUGabundo> thanks
[19:41] <BUGabundo> !ytpos
[19:41] <guest_89> ROFL
[19:41] <guest_89> !typos
[19:56] <half-buntu> have troubled #ubuntu enough
[19:56] <half-buntu> :D
[20:02] <BUGabundo> half-buntu: if you are not running lucid, no need to idle around
[21:10] <BUGabundo> welcome EddieRingle
[21:11] <EddieRingle> hey BUGabundo
[21:11] <BUGabundo> feel free to ask and help around
[21:11] <EddieRingle> sure thing
[21:11] <BUGabundo> btw, tell us a bit about yourself, and expertises
[21:11] <EddieRingle> i get to be interviewed? goodie.
[21:12] <BUGabundo> eheh
[21:12] <EddieRingle> well, I program
[21:12] <BUGabundo> that's more the ubuntu-news team job :D
[21:12] <EddieRingle> heh
[21:37] <Mage__> Hey all.
[22:37] <dupondje> Lucid is rocking stable for alpha 2 imo :)
[22:40] <Mage__> yes it is, just had a small problem with getting my video driver installed but after 5 minutes and a restart it was fixed:P
[22:43] <BUGabundo> bonnie and bonnie++ lost in manpages?
[22:43] <BUGabundo> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man8/bonnie++.8.html
[22:43] <BUGabundo> only up to hardy
[22:43] <BUGabundo> and even that empty ?
[22:45] <BluesKaj> dupondje, not here
[22:47] <dupondje> BluesKaj: why ? :)
[22:47] <BluesKaj> the kde file managers dolphin and konq  both die unexpectedly , so i've been using nautilus.
[22:48] <BluesKaj> dolphin works when calling up /home/usr only
[22:48] <BluesKaj> err /home/user
[22:49] <dupondje> well only use Gnome here, so don't have those probs
[22:49] <dupondje> only thing is that menu is like dutch and english together :p
[22:58] <ripps> Does anybody here know how to right click via control+left click? The side button on my wacom pen is failing, and until I can get a replacement pen, I was hoping I could just use right clicks like a mac does.
[23:16] <kunze> Is there anything that one should be familiar with concerning Ubuntu 10.04 Alpha 2 that would effect wi-fi networking?