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DanaGheh, there's gnome-shell on my netbook.00:57
DanaGInefficient use of space.00:57
penguin42DanaG: I really dislike it01:00
DanaGSo do I.01:01
mstftsmi have a problem bug 19923401:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 199234 in qtiplot "[Hardy] Integration produces nonsense results" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19923401:01
mstftsmwiki m401:03
yofelmstftsm: ok, and what's the problem?01:03
mstftsmyofel, sorry that was a mistake, writing in a wrong window01:04
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rwtHello, I am having issues with my sound. I am running ubuntu 9.10, kernel, and am on a lenovo ideapad y550. For some reason no sound will play at all.04:13
DanaGargh, every time pulseaudio starts, it mutes all my sound cards.04:25
DanaGoh, and I do still have this issue: http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/67804:26
aboSamoorubuntu does not read the continuous keystrokes of my keyboard !04:41
DanaGARGH, STUPID "pyuuuu" sound every time I minimize a window!04:49
hyperstreampie you ?04:50
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rr72hey all, on bootup i get an error about kqemu NAME="%k" breaking things in udev04:56
rr72do i just simply remove name="%k" from the first line of the file /lib/udev/60-kqemu.rules?04:57
rr72or the proper file, sorry it's not perfect, doing it from memory04:57
petsoundshi guys.. any idea why sun java only work with google chrome not with firefox 3.6? i'm on kubuntu lucid. thanks.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2075532/UBUNTU/Ubuntu%20Screenshot/snapshot8.png05:29
IdleOnepetsounds: #ubuntu+105:32
IdleOneoh lol05:32
IdleOnesorry forgot where I was05:32
petsoundsit's ok bro :)05:32
alkisgSince 3-4 weeks a new applet is shown on the systray, which allows me to switch keyboard layouts. Unfortunately, this applet is completely blank. Is this by design? Or am I missing some flag images?05:34
DanaG argh, stupid gtk... makes a "boomf" sound upon pressing the "open" button, and then a metallic "clunk" upon dialog actually drawing.05:58
DanaGOr rather, ctrl-o: boomf.  click cancel: "click".  dialog close: "clunk."05:59
BactaHow does the Ubuntu Software Centre fit in with SPM? Will it eventually replace it?07:47
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ubottu#ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu.  Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support.  Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.10:17
dupondjesabnzbdplus seems broken :(11:41
jakubohi there11:46
jakuboi got  problem with very unstable network, and my computer keeps freezing when downloading files via firefox11:46
jakubohello? is there anybody out there?11:50
BactaJust nod if you can hear meeeeee11:53
jakubohi bacta11:53
BactaI would suggest you take it to #ubuntu if it's not about Lynx11:53
jakuboand then there were.. 2....11:53
jakuboin fact it IS about lynx11:54
jakuboi have been linked here from the #ubuntu irc11:54
BactaPerhaps you should stay then11:57
jakubook.. still no one here?12:04
yofeljakubo: here yes, but no idea why downloading something would freeze your pc12:13
aboSamoorcan anyone help me, ubuntu now do not read continuous keystrokes12:13
jakuboand network problems?12:15
penguin42aboSamoor: You mean it doesn't autorepeat?12:15
aboSamoorpenguin42, yeah12:15
penguin42aboSamoor: Yeh I've literally just noticed the same thing12:15
jakuboaand 2 other things.... nvidia closed driver wont install properly, and wecam doesnt work in skype12:16
penguin42aboSamoor: You can turn it back oon in keyboard prreferences - but it doesn't look like the sliders are set up right - even the slowest speed is causing me some repeats12:18
yofeljakubo: nvidia won't install right when installed from "Hardware Drivers" - known issue. Install it manually from a terminal if you need it12:19
aboSamoorpenguin42, it works. It was changed automatically12:20
penguin42aboSamoor: Yeh12:20
jakuboactually i dont really need it, id probably use the nouveau driver if it was ready, but theres a whole bunch of changes if i try to install it via synaptic12:22
jakubowhcich will probably change with the releaseof the next kernel12:22
penguin42aboSamoor: I've just reported it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/51510812:24
ubottuUbuntu bug 515108 in gnome-control-center "auto-repeat stopped, and slider is too sensitive" [Undecided,New]12:24
jakuboso, there hasnt been anyone complaining about network problems right?12:26
penguin42jakubo: Since I'm connected to you, it seems OK!12:26
jakuboit happens to disconnect now and then12:27
jakubosometimes its beter sometimes its worse12:27
jakuboand i ouldnzt probably tell you if it got worse could i?12:27
jakubohmm... maybe its a firefox issue.....12:36
jakubobut the cam?12:37
jakubois it because i loaded the ubuntu deb from skype.com?12:37
jakubooh, and can you please give some kind of output on the live cd that its NOT POSSIBLE to install on raid systems12:40
penguin42I doubt your skype deb is causing you random network issues12:44
jakuboby the way.... networking: the firmware for my pci card isl 3886pci wasnt provided on the cd, fortunately i had it on stick12:44
jakuboi didnt say that12:44
jakuboi said the cam doesnt work on skype12:45
penguin42oh, sorr y- you had typed so much I lost track12:45
jakuboand in cheese there is only one picture12:45
jakubowell... a frozen cam so to say12:46
jakuboaaand another question: RAID: do i need to attach the hard disks to different ide cables? does it even work with ide?12:48
penguin42jakubo: What type of RAID - is this hardware RAID or software RAID?12:49
penguin42it works with any block device, so IDE works fine, you are best to put it on seperate IDE channels12:50
jakubowhat do you suggest for stripe size? 4KB for root and 512KB for home partition?12:50
penguin42I normally go with the defaults - heck who knows what good values are!12:51
jakubothere s so much about it on the net....12:51
jakuboit was said that its takes much time to concaternate the things back....12:51
jakubono suggestion for the skype thing?12:55
jakubook, ill try the seperate ide cable thing, maybe that was somehow connected with download of larger files..... (or esle it might be damaged hardware..)12:57
jakubothx for the advice12:57
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Apacheukhi all, have a query regarding Testdrive and lucid is anyone able to help?13:25
* penguin42 doesn't know testdrive13:27
penguin42oh neat13:29
* penguin42 tries13:30
ApacheukNow I could be wrong about this next bit, but I was under the impression that it only downloaded the new/changed packages each time you ran it13:31
Apacheukbut I don't see that, it downloads the complete iso each time which is a pain13:31
penguin42yeh I don't see any mention of it being clever like that in the man page13:31
coz_Apacheuk,  actually  I am not familiar enough with this to comment13:32
ApacheukHmmm I heard about it on a uupc podcast I think.... will have to go back and re listen to the episode13:33
Apacheukcheers anyway.... thought I would ask, you never know13:33
coz_Apacheuk,  I am sure someone at some point is familiar with it :)13:33
Apacheukits season 2 episode 1913:34
coz_Apacheuk,  on that link you posed is a get involved section.... you may be able to contact someone from that link13:34
Apacheukyeah I might do that after I re listen, jsut to make sure I didn't dream it13:35
coz_Apacheuk,  sounds like a plan :)13:35
penguin42Apacheuk: I've just had a read through it - it's just a shell script, it's not got anything smart like that13:36
Apacheukyeah... seems that way... must have dreamt it :)13:37
Apacheukwishful thinking13:37
Apacheukwould be really useful13:37
penguin42it's a bit difficult if they're working on an iso, because the whole iso tends to change on a rebuild13:37
penguin42Apacheuk: What you can do is install into a vm and keep that vm updated just updating the packages13:38
penguin42(I say that, although my last attempt to install lucid in a vm didn't work)13:38
ApacheukOK, so am listening to the episode where the Developer talks about Testdrive, and he definitely  says it's an incremental download, so it should download the full iso each day13:42
ApacheukIf you listen to http://uupc.tonywhitmore.co.uk/uupc/s02/e19/uupc_s02e19_high.ogg at position 9.10 or there abouts13:42
ApacheukOK, so am listening to the episode where the Developer talks about Testdrive, and he definitely  says it's an incremental download, so it should'nt download the full iso each day13:49
penguin42hmm odd, I can see it's using an rsync13:50
penguin42I guess it's possible if the isos are actually fairly consistent, rsync cna do some stuff - but I wouldn't think it could cope with an iso rebuild13:51
penguin42Hi BluesKaj13:52
penguin42Apacheuk: Out of interest, did you find it worked?13:52
BluesKajhi penguin4213:52
* penguin42 just tried the netbook one and it had horrible rendering issues13:54
Apacheukyeah, as far as downloading and getting the vm up and running its brilliant13:55
Apacheukworks everytime13:55
penguin42Apacheuk: I actually use virt-manager for fiddling with kvm13:55
ApacheukI usually just use virtual-box13:58
* penguin42 is using kvm these days13:58
BluesKajyou guys running windows inside linux or ..?14:04
penguin42no, linux inside linux in my case14:04
BluesKajwhy ??14:04
penguin42trying things like the install images, and kubuntu inside my ubuntu14:05
Apacheukmainly for testing the daily builds of lucid in my case14:05
BluesKajdo you access data and media files etc from one to the other?14:07
Apacheukyou can do yes14:07
BUGabundoVB shared folders14:08
BUGabundooh guud afternoon everyone14:08
BUGabundohow is the Freenode upgrade treating you all?14:08
BUGabundogot mine via SSL :D14:08
penguin42I haven't noticed any difference14:09
om26erits cool as now your name don't remain in use14:13
BluesKajBUGabundo, connected via SSL ?14:15
BUGabundowhois me14:15
BUGabundoom26er: ??14:15
BluesKajgonna reconnect ,brb14:16
om26erBUGabundo, yes14:16
BUGabundoI wonder if he knows he got to use port 700014:16
BUGabundoom26er: I don't get what you said14:17
om26erBUGabundo, as of today if I get disconnected unintentionally my name dont stay in use at freenode it awesome14:17
BUGabundono more ghosts :D14:18
BUGabundobut chanserv is dead on many #s14:18
BluesKajhmm BUGabundo , I get errors and unable to connect messages, which servers are SSL enabled ?14:20
BUGabundoBluesKaj: I said it just after you left14:21
BUGabundoport 7000 or 701014:21
BUGabundonot _standard_ 6667 and 666914:21
popeyApacheuk: yes, it will only download changes14:22
BUGabundoBluesKaj: go it now?14:22
Apacheukpopey: seems to download the whole iso each day14:23
BluesKajok BUGabundo , changed ports14:24
BluesKajok done !14:25
popeyApacheuk: I'm not surprised tbh, its a compressed image, its _going_ to change almost completely every day14:25
om26erany indicator applet plugin for xchat (that dont close on minimize)?14:25
om26er*on close14:26
BUGabundopopey: Apacheuk: zsync for daily isos?14:26
BUGabundoi use that, and download about 30% of the image weekly14:26
popeyi think testdrive defaults to rsync14:26
Apacheukpopey: I did wonder about that, like Penguin42 said earlier14:27
BUGabundolet me run it just now14:27
BluesKajhmm, it's giving away my ip...dunno if I like that14:27
BUGabundozsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync14:27
BUGabundoUsername: ~kaj@unaffiliated/blueskaj14:27
BUGabundono IP here14:27
BUGabundoRead lucid-desktop-amd64.iso. Target 77.3% complete.14:28
BUGabundopopey: Apacheuk ^^^^^^14:28
popeyBUGabundo: yeah, i know about zsync, Apacheuk is talking about testdrive14:28
BUGabundo-rw------- 1 bugabundo bugabundo 693M 2010-01-27 22:42 lucid-desktop-amd64.iso14:28
popeyand that it uses rsync by default14:28
BUGabundofrom 4 days ago14:28
BUGabundoahhhh sorry14:28
BUGabundolost that part :(14:28
Apacheukso it's probably not a bug on Testdrives part then14:31
penguin42the world really needs a shared bookmark thing for firefox/chrome14:31
BUGabundopenguin42: +10014:34
aboSamoorcan anyone help me with their hotmail configuration on empthy, it gives me a network error ?14:40
BUGabundothose don't compute14:41
BUGabundohotmail and IM app ?!?14:41
BUGabundodo you mean MSN ?14:41
chiggavelliis there made any fix for fqdlr14:43
chiggavelliThere was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.14:44
chiggavelliNo ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly.14:44
chiggavelliPlease install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig.14:44
chiggavelliinstalled that one ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run14:44
chiggavellibut still ignores it14:45
chiggavelliafter reboot im getting low level but all colours showing nrml14:45
om26eraboSamoor, see if  the port number zero14:51
aboSamoorom26er, it is not14:51
om26eraboSamoor, is it 1863?14:52
om26eraboSamoor, and whats the server address14:53
aboSamoorom26er, messenger.hotmail.com:186314:54
om26eraboSamoor, quit empathy and then type this in terminal and start empathy again sudo pkill telepathy14:54
BUGabundosudo pkill ?14:55
BUGabundoaggressive are we ?14:55
om26erit will kill mission-control and telepathy-butterfly14:55
aboSamoorom26er, did not work14:56
om26eraboSamoor, are you putting @hotmail  ?14:57
aboSamoorom26er, no14:57
om26eraboSamoor, lol do it14:57
aboSamoorom26er, this is why people are using gmail ;) :). thanks14:58
om26eraboSamoor, btw gtalk in empathy also require @14:58
aboSamoorom26er, lol14:58
om26eraboSamoor, :)14:59
BUGabundoI'm trolling.... sorry... feld pissed https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/509079/comments/715:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 509079 in nautilus "nautilus has tabs on bottom" [Low,Triaged]15:51
yofelthis is somewhat... basic funtionality15:56
yofelmore like, everybody's used to it...15:56
BUGabundoI don't care15:57
BUGabundothey can stuff it15:57
penguin42It's a bit weird that thre is so little standardisation in tab behaviour16:00
BUGabundodon't even get me started on that16:05
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BUGabundoanyone suggesting a filemanager to replace Nautilus?16:05
BUGabundoor wants to hack around and fork upstream ?16:06
penguin42moving it should be easy16:07
aboSamoorhow can I ask for packaging sagemath for the latest version 3.4.1, while the one available is 3.0.5dfsg-4ubuntu116:07
penguin42BUGabundo: The file manager in xubuntu is incredibly quick16:07
yofelaboSamoor: maybe check what happened to the debian maintainer?16:08
BUGabundopenguin42: and funtions worth?16:08
yofelaboSamoor: and the folks in -motu should be able to help you better for this16:08
penguin42BUGabundo: Not sure, I don't use it much16:09
penguin42BUGabundo: The thing that's annoying me on nautilus is bad integration with workspaces, so if you open a folder in one workkspace and then click on it to open in another it doesn't do anything at all - I want the directory to appear one way or another16:10
BUGabundodon't follow16:11
penguin42BUGabundo: Double click on documents, move workspace, now what happens if you double click on documents?16:11
BUGabundoopens a new wind16:11
BUGabundoso ?16:12
BUGabundoits what I expect16:12
BUGabundoFYI http://boot.kernel.org/16:12
penguin42hmm, why isn't this the same as the behaviour I get at work16:12
penguin42BUGabundo: It's the case if I click 'open directories in their own new window' in the behaviour16:13
BUGabundocan some one check the usb md5 for me ? http://www.netboot.me/help16:22
penguin42BUGabundo: Just want me to download and md5 it?16:24
penguin42Yep, doesn't match - I get 2f2e02....16:24
BUGabundome neither16:24
BUGabundowe will email them16:25
thopiekarrazertek: I just "fixed" my problem by doing a clean install with a daily lucid build cd..16:32
thopiekarbut I'm definitly sure that there was a issue with loading a service but somehow the name wasn't shown..16:33
thopiekarbut after testing lucid a day I can definitly say that its stable enough for a alpha.. there are just some preformace problems on kde4 but gnome works well :P16:34
thopiekarGREAT JOB!16:34
penguin42yeh it seems pretty good16:52
Volkodavthunar is pretty quick16:54
penguin42ah yeh that's what I was thinking of16:54
serenis nepomuk/strigi supposed to work at the moment on lucid ?19:11
serenbecause while I haved indexec my whole hdd, I can't find anything19:11
serenneither through krunner nor dolpin search bar19:11
BUGabundocharlie-tca: do you get any records of ppl booting xubuntu on old powerpcs?19:24
charlie-tcaI don't keep records, but yes, there are several people using xubuntu on powerpcs. There are ports available for that19:25
BUGabundolink please?19:25
guest_89how can i upgrade to lucid α x64 from karmic x64 ?19:25
charlie-tcaBUGabundo: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/19:26
BUGabundoguest_89: $ update-manager -d19:26
charlie-tcaguest_89: when I tried yesterday, it was broken. You should be able to use update-manager -d as the release notes state.19:27
BUGabundocharlie-tca: AFAIK those don't boot directly19:27
charlie-tcawhy not?19:27
BUGabundoplus port work seem to have stall19:27
charlie-tcaAre you sure it doesn't have an intel chip?19:27
guest_89has an amd64 k1019:28
BUGabundoI'm talking in the 3rd person19:28
charlie-tcaThose do work, at least 8.10 and 0.0419:28
BUGabundocharlie-tca: I'll pass it along19:29
BUGabundowill try to report back19:29
charlie-tcathey are running on several systems.19:30
charlie-tcaMight send them to #ubuntu-ppc on freenode19:30
charlie-tcaguest_89: your chip shouldn't matter, the upgrade procedure should be the same.19:32
BUGabundocharlie-tca: seems the prob is with X, it always fails to get a proper resolution19:35
guest_89BUGabundo, will i have to reinstall the drivers or anything after upgrading to 10.04α ?19:37
BUGabundoof course19:37
guest_89is it cleaing my /home ?19:38
BUGabundoof course not19:38
BUGabundobut backups are *always* adviced19:38
guest_89lol thanks19:38
guest_89yea yea of course19:38
charlie-tcaBUGabundo: not the ports fault, you can get the same issue with any of the installs19:39
guest_89whens 10.04β coming?19:39
BUGabundoguest_89: see /topic19:40
BUGabundo!shedule > guest_8919:40
guest_89!schedule > guest_8919:40
ubottuguest_89, please see my private message19:40
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half-buntuhave troubled #ubuntu enough19:56
BUGabundohalf-buntu: if you are not running lucid, no need to idle around20:02
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BUGabundowelcome EddieRingle21:10
EddieRinglehey BUGabundo21:11
BUGabundofeel free to ask and help around21:11
EddieRinglesure thing21:11
BUGabundobtw, tell us a bit about yourself, and expertises21:11
EddieRinglei get to be interviewed? goodie.21:11
EddieRinglewell, I program21:12
BUGabundothat's more the ubuntu-news team job :D21:12
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Mage__Hey all.21:37
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dupondjeLucid is rocking stable for alpha 2 imo :)22:37
Mage__yes it is, just had a small problem with getting my video driver installed but after 5 minutes and a restart it was fixed:P22:40
BUGabundobonnie and bonnie++ lost in manpages?22:43
BUGabundoonly up to hardy22:43
BUGabundoand even that empty ?22:43
BluesKajdupondje, not here22:45
dupondjeBluesKaj: why ? :)22:47
BluesKajthe kde file managers dolphin and konq  both die unexpectedly , so i've been using nautilus.22:47
BluesKajdolphin works when calling up /home/usr only22:48
BluesKajerr /home/user22:48
dupondjewell only use Gnome here, so don't have those probs22:49
dupondjeonly thing is that menu is like dutch and english together :p22:49
rippsDoes anybody here know how to right click via control+left click? The side button on my wacom pen is failing, and until I can get a replacement pen, I was hoping I could just use right clicks like a mac does.22:58
kunzeIs there anything that one should be familiar with concerning Ubuntu 10.04 Alpha 2 that would effect wi-fi networking?23:16

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