[19:20] <rbelem> hi asac 
[19:20] <rbelem> r u there?
[19:20] <rbelem> :-)
[19:20] <asac> hi rbelem 
[19:20] <asac> whats up?
[19:21] <rbelem> asac, plasma mobile is almost ok, i just have some doubts about licensing
[19:21] <rbelem> asac, the upstream author added some files
[19:22] <rbelem> asac, and did not insert the copyright
[19:23] <rbelem> and i want to discuss an idea about kdm
[19:23] <rbelem> :-)
[19:24] <rbelem> asac, can you take a look at the plasma-mobile package?
[19:26] <asac> do you have te link at hand?
[19:27] <rbelem> asac, http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-mobile
[19:27] <rbelem> :-)
[19:42] <asac> persia: already in portland?
[19:43] <asac> rbelem: usually files added without copyright are assumed to be governed by the same license as the full source (subtree)
[19:43] <asac> so thats ok
[19:43] <rbelem> asac, cool!
[19:43] <rbelem> :-)
[19:43] <asac> its only problematic if it explicitly says: "all rights reserved" witout a license
[19:44] <asac> but if there is no info about copyright etc. then its usually fine
[19:46] <rbelem> asac, i think tomorrow i will talk to the maintainer and i will ask to him update the copyright or just clarify the situation with him
[19:46] <asac> right. thats best
[19:46] <asac> oterwise its usually ok
[19:46] <asac> as i said
[19:47] <rbelem> asac, about kdm now :-)
[19:47] <asac> but perfect would be to have full license info in the files themselve
[19:47] <rbelem> cool
[19:47] <rbelem> :-)
[19:48] <rbelem> i'm having some problems with kdm
[19:49] <rbelem> i was currently trying to build it outside kdebase-workspace
[19:49] <rbelem> i get almost 90% of the code compiled
[19:51] <rbelem> asac, just a second - someones at the door
[19:55] <rbelem> the problem is a dependency in kcontrol inside the kdebase-workspace
[19:57] <rbelem> the kcontrol builds a .so that is installed in the kdm package
[19:59] <rbelem> so probably i need to take out this code to build it
[20:01] <rbelem> this is what is missing to get it ready
[20:01] <rbelem> but
[20:01] <rbelem> i was thinking about some features that would be nice to have on kdm-mobile
[20:02] <rbelem> first
[20:02] <rbelem> create something like an initial setup
[20:03] <rbelem> to do what oem-config does today or something like it
[20:04] <rbelem> second
[20:05] <rbelem> create an alternative method to authenticate and login
[20:05] <rbelem> like a pin code on mobile phones
[20:06] <rbelem> or a lock screen like android's
[20:07] <rbelem> this shouldn't be too difficult to hack
[20:07] <rbelem> what do you think about these ideas?
[21:16] <rbelem> asac, http://identi.ca/attachment/8072583 plasma-mobile screenshot :-)
[21:18] <ogra> rbelem, cute 
[21:19] <asac> nice
[21:19] <asac> what is that number pad?
[21:20] <rbelem> asac, i don't know :-)
[21:20]  * rbelem kicks keypad
[21:21] <rbelem> ogra, it think it will get more attractive as time goes by
[21:21] <rbelem> :-)
[21:21] <ogra> well, it looks quite good already :)
[21:24] <rbelem> ogra, one nice thing about plasma-mobile is that it will use qml, so the look n' feel can be changed completely by changing a template
[21:25] <asac> rbelem: do you know if something like the PIN auth already exists?
[21:27] <rbelem> asac, well i think we can do this via ofono http://ofono.org/
[21:28] <rbelem> asac, i used this before :-)
[21:29] <ian_brasil> rbelem, i will update the blueprint/burndown if this is packaged 
[21:30] <rbelem> ian_brasil, ok :-)
[21:30] <rbelem> ian_brasil, but i just discovered a bug
[21:32] <ian_brasil> rbelem, we need to get moving for FF with the kwin & kdm stuff also
[21:34] <rbelem> ian_brasil, ok, i think for kdm we don't need to bother about kdebase-workspace packaging changes
[21:35] <rbelem> ian_brasil, this week we will work on kwin
[21:36] <ian_brasil> what will you do and is it a lot of work?
[21:36] <ian_brasil> oh and unless you can do the PIN stuff quickly i suggest leaving it until after lucid
[21:42] <rbelem> ian_brasil, i don't know yet :-(
[21:42] <rbelem> at least it is not very clear
[21:43] <rbelem> ian_brasil, maybe we should go back to the virtual keyboard integrated with kwin
[21:44] <rbelem> ian_brasil, the plasmaboard plasmoid is not enough for mobile needs
[21:45] <ian_brasil> rbelem, damn..shame that did not work out
[21:47] <rbelem> ian_brasil, it is just a plasmoid it is not gonna save the world :-P
[21:48] <asac> rbelem: ok yeah ... we could also use modemmanager probably ... i think we have no ofono in the archive yet. do you know if thats completely free software?