[00:13] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/327172
[00:13] <BUGabundo> never fixed ?
[00:13] <BUGabundo> :(
[00:19] <asac> omg i feel like dying;)
[00:19] <asac> horror trip
[00:19] <asac> now in portland
[00:19] <recmajkemi> i installed 3.6  via ppa. how do i uninstall it?
[00:20] <asac> recmajkemi: what does uninstall mean?
[00:20] <asac> downgrade to 3.5?
[00:20] <BUGabundo> asac: wb
[00:20] <BUGabundo> what happened ?
[00:21] <asac> dont ask ;)
[00:21] <asac> well in the end all was good
[00:21] <asac> but it was like going through minefields
[00:21] <asac> first 3 hours on the runway in hamburg
[00:21] <recmajkemi> asac: yes downgrade
[00:21] <asac> because of snow
[00:21] <asac> then late in frankfurt almost missed the plane (was stnading in security still 30 minutes after the depature time)
[00:22] <BUGabundo> too late... just did
[00:22] <asac> same in seattle due to the delay ;)
[00:22] <asac> lost a bunch of things (not sure what exactly yet)
[00:22] <BUGabundo> asac: next time *shave*
[00:22] <asac> in one for the many security stuff
[00:22] <BUGabundo> so you don't look like a terrostist
[00:22] <BUGabundo> ohh that's bad :(
[00:23] <BUGabundo> that's one of the reason I don't want to set foot into USoA
[00:23] <asac> and all that with 3 hours sleep the day before and almost no sleep yesterday ;)
[00:23] <asac> so now i am bad ;)
[00:23] <asac> recmajkemi: at best uninstall all firefox packages ... then remove ppa and install them again
[00:27] <fta> BUGabundo, next auto-respin is at 5am (my time) so if they fix it quickly, it will be ok
[00:28] <BUGabundo> they _won't_
[00:28] <fta> so we're doomed
[00:28] <fta> asac, nice to see you're still alive :)
[00:28] <recmajkemi> asac: idid that but via desktop shorcut im still able to open ff 3.6 ill try to reboot
[00:29] <fta> BUGabundo, i don't understand why to pushed it in trunk if it's broken
[00:29] <fta> trunk is always supposed to work
[00:29] <BUGabundo> they didn't test lucid
[00:29] <BUGabundo> it works in 9.10
[00:31] <BUGabundo> lololol segphault is _debuging_ in identica
[00:31] <BUGabundo> FAIL
[00:33] <BUGabundo> the stuppidest thing: they are changing gwibber in the same week it finally get to work without any probs :\\\
[00:33] <BUGabundo> Murphys Law, I guess
[00:33] <BUGabundo> if it is broken its gonna get worse. if it is working, don't care, it will break
[01:02] <BUGabundo> fta: ♺ @segphault: @BUGabundo: I pushed a fix to trunk for the bug you found on 10.04. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!
[01:11] <BUGabundo> fta: it working, but mostly borked
[01:11] <BUGabundo> no qaiku, no StatusNet servers other then identica, no jaiku, no themes,
[01:53] <fta> BUGabundo, are the deb empty?
[01:54] <BUGabundo> no idea
[01:54] <BUGabundo> all I know is what I read on identica
[01:55] <fta> hm; indeed
[01:57] <fta> not my fault though
[01:58] <fta> whoever introduced gwibber-service broke it
[02:00] <BUGabundo> oh great... a one he said, she aid fight
[02:01] <fta> ?
[02:03] <ejat> fta: after upgrading gwibber .. i can open/execute it :(
[02:03] <fta> read above
[02:04] <fta> funny, when built on karmic, the debs are not empty
[02:04]  * ejat reading .. 
[02:06] <kenvandine> fta, which packaging branch is the daily head builds using?
[02:06] <kenvandine> fta, i pushed it to lp:~gwibber-team/gwibber/packaging.trunk
[02:06] <kenvandine> which has worked for several people today, that installed it from my ppa
[02:07] <kenvandine> fta, are you still seeing problems?
[02:07] <fta> when i build locally, it's fine, but in the ppa, the debs end up empty
[02:07] <kenvandine> empty!
[02:08] <fta> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38566452/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.gwibber_2.29.1~bzr502-0ubuntu2~daily1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[02:08] <fta> look close to the end
[02:08] <kenvandine> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/+archive/gwibber/+packages
[02:08] <fta> i didn't do anything special
[02:09] <kenvandine> which packaging branch is that from?
[02:14] <ejat> diff .. bzr496 n bzr502
[02:14] <fta> lp:~gwibber-team/gwibber/packaging.trunk
[02:14] <fta> i wanted to fix it, but i have no idea what's causing this
[02:14] <fta> and it's 3am+
[02:14] <BUGabundo> ejat: there just a few commts in to fix some bugs I found
[02:15] <ejat> owh ok
[02:16] <BUGabundo> we are now at 504
[02:16] <BUGabundo> and one more coming
[02:17] <BUGabundo> so I assume that tomorrow gona be a bad day for gwibbers daily ppa
[02:17] <BUGabundo> :P
[02:17] <ejat> BUGabundo: haa :p
[02:17] <fta> dh_link -pgwibber                                                                                       dh_link -pgwibber
[02:17] <fta> dh_installmime -pgwibber                                                                                dh_installmime -pgwibber
[02:17] <fta> dh_pycentral -pgwibber                                                                                  dh_pycentral -pgwibber
[02:17] <fta> renaming debian/gwibber/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages to debian/gwibber/usr/lib/python2.6/dist   <
[02:17] <fta> dh_installdocs -pgwibber-service ./README ./AUTHORS                                                     dh_installdocs -pgwibber-service ./README ./AUTHORS
[02:17] <fta> dh_installexamples -pgwibber-service                                                                    dh_installexamples -pgwibber-service
[02:17] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/365964/
[02:18] <fta> dh_pycentral is not doing the same thing
[02:20] <fta> in my karmic pbuilder, i see "renaming debian/gwibber/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages to debian/gwibber/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages", it's not done in the ppa
[02:20] <fta> so your *.install files don't match and the debs end up empty
[02:20] <fta> kenvandine, ^^
[02:21] <kenvandine> oh... so it is failing in karmic and not in lucid?
[02:21] <BUGabundo> I tought it was the other way around
[02:21] <BUGabundo> OOHH WAIT
[02:21] <kenvandine> or the other way around
[02:21] <BUGabundo> maybe it's the fix for lucid
[02:21] <BUGabundo> that seg added
[02:21] <kenvandine> it is building in my ppa fine for lucid
[02:21] <BUGabundo> its messing it up
[02:21] <kenvandine> that was a trivial change
[02:22] <fta> nope, it's failing everywhere
[02:22] <BUGabundo> from branchs it was running in karmic but not lucid
[02:22] <BUGabundo> and he pushed a fix
[02:22] <kenvandine> right, if the db hadn't already done it's oauth thing
[02:22] <kenvandine> but that was trivial, no impact on packaging
[02:23] <kenvandine> fta but in my ppa the debs aren't empty...
[02:23]  * kenvandine will look deeped
[02:23] <kenvandine> deeper
[02:24] <kenvandine> fta, the py_central thing must be version specific
[02:25] <kenvandine> dh_pycentral -pgwibber-service
[02:25] <kenvandine> renaming debian/gwibber-service/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages to debian/gwibber-service/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages
[02:25] <kenvandine> dh_strip -pgwibber
[02:26] <kenvandine> from the build log in my ppa
[02:26] <kenvandine> so the question is why isn't that happening in the ~gwibber-team ppa
[02:32] <fta> all the "copying build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/gwibber/..." are missing too
[02:33] <fta> hm, no, nm
[02:47] <fta> kenvandine, no idea, i give up :(
[02:47] <kenvandine> fta, i'll try to look at it more
[02:47] <kenvandine> it's bazaar
[02:48] <kenvandine> it works in my lucid pbuilder and in my ppa
[02:48] <kenvandine> crazy that it doesn't work in that ppa
[02:52] <fta> kenvandine, pycentral won't rename if pversion is ('python2.3', 'python2.4', 'python2.5')
[09:46] <gnomefreak> anyone awake? i have an issue i neeed to know source package for?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> it seems to be a known bug fixed it by changing settings in keyboard menu :)
[10:24]  * gnomefreak goes and lays down while updates and scripts are running
[12:14] <Milos_SD> Hello
[12:14] <Milos_SD> Firefox 3.7 still doesn't work!!!!
[12:14] <Milos_SD> and upstream Firefox 3.7 works
[12:14] <Milos_SD> so, it is problem with your packages
[12:14] <Milos_SD> fix it!!!
[12:16] <micahg> Milos_SD: can you be more specific?
[12:17] <Milos_SD> Firefox 3.7 freezes when needs to load flash
[12:17] <Milos_SD> it has been fixed upstream (I downloaded precompiled binary from mozilla ftp)
[12:17] <Milos_SD> and it works
[12:17] <Milos_SD> but yours from PPA still freezes
[12:18] <micahg> Milos_SD: which version upstream?
[12:19] <Milos_SD> just a sec
[12:22] <Milos_SD> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-linux64/
[12:22] <Milos_SD> from here
[12:23] <Milos_SD> even the one from 29. works
[12:25] <micahg> hmm
[12:27] <micahg> you're running the latest daily from us?
[12:27] <Milos_SD> yes
[12:27] <Milos_SD> and it freezes and loading flash on web sites
[12:27] <Milos_SD> but the one from that ftp link, doesn't
[12:27] <Milos_SD> it has some issues with youtube controls, but it doesn't freez
[12:34]  * micahg is attempting a backtrace
[12:41] <fta> kenvandine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/366164/
[13:08] <Milos_SD> micahg, any success?
[13:36] <nasam> Is icedtea java plugin incompatible with Firefox 3.6?
[14:01] <BUGabundo> humm chanserv dead?
[14:10] <fta> BUGabundo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/366169/ was it your error?
[14:11] <BUGabundo> fta: yep
[14:11] <BUGabundo> I have gwibber upgrade on hold
[14:11] <fta> so it's still broken
[14:11] <BUGabundo> and am testing a few branchs a gain
[14:11] <BUGabundo> ahahaah
[14:11] <BUGabundo> I'm on yesterday deb :D
[14:12] <BUGabundo> I hate to say it (or maybe not) but I told you so
[14:12]  * BUGabundo duck
[14:12] <fta> i thought segphault fixed it yesterday after you complained
[14:13] <BUGabundo> no
[14:13] <BUGabundo> he pushed a few things, and it worked
[14:14] <BUGabundo> but then it broke again
[14:17] <fta> i still don't understand why couchdb is needed in a microblogging client
[14:17] <BUGabundo> it syncs between PCs
[14:17] <fta> sync what?
[14:18] <BUGabundo> gwibber status
[14:18] <fta> but you need an http(s) server for that, right?
[14:19] <BUGabundo> fta if you start gwibber-service
[14:20] <BUGabundo> wait for it to pull stuff and only then start gwibber, it works
[14:20] <BUGabundo> Trunk is WFM fine
[14:20] <BUGabundo> fta: it uses UbuntuOne for sync
[14:20] <fta> damn
[14:21] <fta> i don't have an U1 account, and i don't want one
[14:21] <fta> if it's now mandatory, bye bye gwibber
[14:21] <BUGabundo> don't need one
[14:21] <BUGabundo> I don't have mine up (or even instaled) and gwibber trunk is working
[14:21] <BUGabundo> but its TOO soon to make it trunk
[14:22] <BUGabundo> no themes, no StatusNet server support, no spellchecker
[14:22] <BUGabundo> no jaiku (lost and not ported since 1.x) , no qaiku
[14:23] <BUGabundo> but I really love the new side pane :DD
[14:23] <BUGabundo> uber nice for small screens
[14:24] <fta> pfff http://paste.ubuntu.com/366231/
[14:29] <BUGabundo> trink?
[14:29] <BUGabundo> *trunk ?
[14:30] <fta> r506
[14:31] <BUGabundo> Now on revision 506.
[14:31] <BUGabundo> ./bin/gwibber-service & ; sleep 30; ./bin/gwibber
[14:34] <fta> ok, byebye gwibber, it's not usable, and they don't really know how to keep a trunk alive and attractive for testers
[14:34] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/366239/
[14:35] <BUGabundo> ehe
[15:05] <fta> BUGabundo, how do you shorten a link in the web interface?
[15:08] <BUGabundo> fta: where?
[15:08] <BUGabundo> for manual links I use punny.sl.pt
[15:09] <BUGabundo> for posting to SNs I use hellotxt and ping.fm
[15:15] <fta> i don't why there's a pref then, it doesn't do anything
[15:15] <fta> +understand
[15:16] <BUGabundo> for ?
[15:45] <Tallken> hello!
[15:45] <BUGabundo> hey Tallken
[15:46] <Tallken> am I the only one who has been experiencing random lookups with Firefox-3.6 ? I downgraded o Karmic's Firefox to see if the lookups continue (since I didn't uninstall the plugins) but still I thought I'd ask here
[15:46] <Tallken> hey BUGabundo
[15:49] <BUGabundo> Tallken: separated processes in daily
[15:49] <BUGabundo> turn it off for a few days, until fixed
[15:49] <Tallken> hum? in 3.6 ?
[15:50] <BUGabundo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543037
[15:50] <BUGabundo> yes
[15:50] <BUGabundo> [reed]: we are doomed... your guys don't even know where to start fixing it :(
[15:51] <Tallken> but ain't that supposed to be in the firefox-3.7 package??
[15:52] <BUGabundo> no
[15:52] <BUGabundo> 3.6 also has it
[15:53] <Tallken> cool
[15:54] <Tallken> will continue with firefox-3.5 then
[15:54] <BUGabundo> why??
[15:54] <Tallken> thanks for the explanation, BUGabundo
[15:54] <BUGabundo> just turn it off
[15:54] <BUGabundo> and remember to enable it in a week
[15:54] <Tallken> BUGabundo, well, because it's slower but stable
[15:54] <BUGabundo> http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2010-01-27/multi-process-plugins-on-by-default/
[15:55] <BUGabundo> 3.7 is now stable for me again
[15:55] <BUGabundo> found the bug, reported, work around it
[15:55] <BUGabundo> world is happy
[15:56] <Tallken> BUGabundo, if I kill mozilla-runtime the browser returns from the dead?
[15:57] <BUGabundo> no idea
[15:57] <Tallken> hum... will stay with firefox-3.5
[15:57] <Tallken> if i get too pissed with its speed will go back to 3..6
[15:57] <Tallken> BUGabundo, thanks for the help & links :)
[15:58] <BUGabundo> 3.5 isssss slloowwwww
[15:58] <BUGabundo> 3.7 is faster
[15:58] <BUGabundo> and chromium is just another league
[16:45] <Tallken> BUGabundo, concerning "and chromium is just another league" http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php
[16:46] <Tallken> anyway, gotta go
[16:46] <Tallken> went
[17:06] <micahg> bdrung: should devscripts bugs be filed against the ubuntu package with a task on the m-dev project?
[17:18] <bdrung> micahg: it's up to you. either this or you can file a bug against the package in debian
[17:39] <micahg> bdrung: ok
[17:39] <micahg> bdrung: BTW, it worked great once I removed the langpacks that had a bad install.rdf
[18:16] <Milos_SD> micahg, is there hope that firefox 3.7 freez issue with flash be fixed in tomorows update? :)
[18:16] <micahg> Milos_SD: depends if I have time to debug...probably not :(
[18:16] <micahg> maybe tomorrow
[18:18] <Milos_SD> micahg, ok. But why debug? Problem is part-fixed in upstream (I think)
[18:19] <micahg> Milos_SD: well, we build upstream's version
[18:19] <micahg> so if I can figure out which function is roke
[18:19] <micahg> *broke, I can see the patch that fixed it and try to figure out why it doesn't work in our build
[18:20] <Milos_SD> is there a way I can help with backtraceing the problem? :) Or do I need programing knowledge to do that?
[18:21]  * micahg thinks he'll just ask upstream :)
[18:22] <fta> asac, i'm trying to clarify/update the d/copyright file for the codecs package, what do you think? http://paste.ubuntu.com/366321/
[18:34] <bdrung> micahg1: great
[18:38] <bdrung> micahg1: 515217 is not a bug in m-d, but in rdflib
[18:42] <micahg1> bdrung: k, sorry, i'll ,move it
[18:43] <bdrung> micahg1: i moved it
[18:43] <micahg1> bdrung: k, should I invalidate the m-dev task?
[18:44] <bdrung> micahg1: already done. ;)
[18:45]  * micahg1 is checking upstream
[19:03] <micahg1> bdrung: I filed a bug upstream
[19:04] <bdrung> micahg1: yes, i saw it
[19:17] <asac> fta: so ... maybe use the dep-5 format style instead of "Here is the text of the MIT license:"
[19:18] <asac> you can use
[19:18] <asac> License: MIT
[19:18] <asac>  License text ...
[19:18] <asac>  line 2
[19:18] <asac> etc.
[19:18] <fta> how do you add comments?
[19:18] <asac> comments?
[19:19] <fta> descriptions
[19:19] <asac> what is a description in what you pasted?
[19:19] <asac> i see license texts
[19:20] <asac> those would be one-char indented
[19:20] <asac> so you can refer in a files: block to MIT .... and then you would have one License: MIT block at the end with the license text
[19:20] <asac> but i guess thats not what yo umean
[19:21] <fta> l4-10, 30, 68-70..
[19:22] <fta> imho, l30-65 is just confusing
[19:23] <asac> so instead of "most files under balbalbla/ are licensed under LGPL..." you just say
[19:23] <asac> Files: balbalbla/*
[19:23] <asac> License: LGPL-2.1+
[19:24] <asac> and then you name specific files with different license
[19:24] <asac> Files: ffmpeg-mt.tar.gz!/ffmpeg-mt/libavcodec/x86/h264_deblock_sse2.asm
[19:24] <asac> License: MIT
[19:24] <asac> etc.
[19:25] <asac> the license 4-10 belong to README.sources
[19:25] <asac> not copyright
[19:25] <asac> README.source
[19:25] <asac> line 1-2 can be scratched
[19:25] <asac> instead  use debian/*
[19:25] <asac> Copyright Fabien Tassin...
[19:26] <asac> and then
[19:26] <asac> debian/patches/*
[19:26] <asac> like you did just below
[19:28] <fta> well, i only checked in details the files that are build (those listed in the gyp file), for the rest, i just pasted the LICENSE file
[19:28] <fta> built
[19:33] <micahg1> asac: I think tb-locales is ready
[19:33]  * micahg1 should probably test build on Lucid though...
[19:44] <asac> micahg: does it work on karmic?
[19:44] <asac> can you put that stuff up somewhere and send me a link?
[19:44] <asac> i am probably not in that much longer
[19:45] <micahg> asac: https://edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test/+packages
[19:45] <micahg> just need to rename .orig.tar.gz and changelog entry
[19:45] <micahg> it shows up in my shredder install, but not as compatible since I'm running 3.0.1pre
[19:46] <asac> micahg: does the ${xpi:recommends} etc. work?
[19:46] <micahg> hmm
[19:46] <micahg> no
[19:46] <micahg> :(
[19:46] <asac> (iassume so ... just wonder if you checked it)
[19:46] <asac> no?
[19:46] <asac> so it inserts "thunderbird-3.0" rather than thunderbird?
[19:46]  * micahg forgot to ask bdrung about that
[19:46] <micahg> no
[19:47] <bdrung> micahg: what do you want to know?
[19:47] <micahg> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/366381/
[19:47] <micahg> asac: shredder picks it up properly in thunderbird
[19:47] <bdrung> micahg: gimme the source, please
[19:48] <micahg> bdrung: https://edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test/+files/thunderbird-locales_3.0~micahg+try2-0ubuntu1~karmic~ppa3.diff.gz
[19:48] <micahg> asac: should we make a bzr branch for TB localeS?
[19:48] <bdrung> micahg: dsc or bzr branch?
[19:48] <micahg> bdrung: https://edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test/+files/thunderbird-locales_3.0~micahg+try2-0ubuntu1~karmic~ppa3.dsc
[19:49] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test/+files/thunderbird-locales_3.0~micahg+try2-0ubuntu1~lucid~ppa1.dsc
[19:49] <asac> yeah
[19:49] <micahg> asac: I filed 3 locale bugs upstream and cc'd you
[19:52] <bdrung> micahg: it's your fault :P
[19:52] <micahg> bdrung: k, please enlighten me
[19:53] <bdrung> micahg: you use "%:	dh --with xul-ext $@", but % is never called, because you define the other targets
[19:53] <micahg> ah
[19:53] <bdrung> micahg: you either use the override_* targets or you call dh_xul-ext manually
[19:54] <micahg> ah, so do I just add % to the install target?
[19:54] <micahg> or build?
[19:55] <micahg> bdrung: ^^
[19:57] <bdrung> micahg: either drop configure, install, binary, clean rules (and use the override_* targets), or you drop the % target and call dh_xul-ext in binary-indep target
[19:57] <bdrung> micahg: man dh
[20:01]  * micahg is at a loss
[20:02] <micahg> bdrung: do I get rid of the install and buidl targets then?
[20:03] <bdrung> micahg: yes
[20:03] <micahg> bdrung: k
[20:04] <bdrung> micahg: dh calls all these dh_* commands
[20:07] <micahg> bdrung: still doesn't work
[20:07]  * micahg is sure he's missing something simple
[20:08] <bdrung> micahg: your rules file should look like http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xmms2/abraca.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=d42a2ee134247c9d487b71fa523da6e64f4a7d01;hb=HEAD after the cleanup
[20:12]  * micahg is testing
[20:13] <micahg> \o/
[20:13] <micahg> uh oh
[20:13] <micahg> I missed something
[20:13] <micahg> I'm getting copyright errors
[20:14] <micahg> or rather warning
[20:15] <bdrung> micahg: you may run install-xpi with -r
[20:16] <micahg> what does that do?
[20:16] <micahg> nm
[20:16] <bdrung> micahg: man install-xpi :P
[20:16] <micahg> no, but it was installed before
[20:17] <bdrung> micahg: installed before?
[20:17] <micahg> yes, in the previous version
[20:24] <micahg> bdrung: nm
[20:24] <micahg> needed a full rebuild
[20:25] <bdrung> nm?
[20:25] <micahg> nevermind
[20:25] <bdrung> k
[20:30] <micahg> bdrung: if I think I can bump to compat 7, should I?
[20:30] <bdrung> micahg: if you use dh, then you have to.
[20:30] <micahg> k
[20:34] <micahg> bdrung: thanks for your help, I'm still learning debhelper
[20:34] <bdrung> np
[20:34] <bdrung> it takes some time
[20:34]  * micahg found lintian.debian.org which is nice
[20:35] <micahg> dh is really amazing
[20:36] <micahg> bdrung: I've got one weird character issue
[20:36] <bdrung> micahg: which?
[20:36] <micahg> on the nb-no locale, is there some way to make sure the shell is using UTF8?
[20:37] <micahg> when building the file?
[20:37] <micahg> if you take a look at the control file...
[20:37] <bdrung> micahg: isn't utf-8 the default?
[20:37]  * micahg would think so
[20:38] <micahg> but for some reason, that locale when generated from the system locales gets mangled
[20:38] <micahg> it's fine in the original xml file
[20:38] <micahg> it's getting mangled somehow in here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/366409/
[20:39] <bdrung> micahg: gedit opened the control file as iso-8859-15
[20:40] <micahg> yeah
[20:40] <micahg> but it should be UTF8
[20:40] <bdrung> micahg: you should remove the last line ( .) in package.template
[20:40] <micahg> but for some reason, it's generated like that
[20:41] <micahg> k
[20:41]  * micahg didn't know if it did anything
[20:43] <bdrung> dunno how to fix the utf-8 issue
[20:43] <micahg> k
[20:45] <micahg> bdrung: ok, here's an issue maybe you can help with...as asac pointed out, it seems to Enhance TB3.0 instead of just TB..is there anything I can do?
[20:46] <bdrung> micahg: does it support thunderbird 3?
[20:46] <micahg> yes, but the package will be thunderbird
[20:46] <bdrung> micahg: so no versioned thunderbird package?
[20:47] <micahg> bdrung: in archive
[20:47] <bdrung> i meant: no versioned source tb package?
[20:47] <micahg> bdrung: in archive
[20:47] <bdrung> where else?
[20:47] <micahg> in PPA yes, but in archive no
[20:49] <bdrung> micahg: will tb 3 land in lucid?
[20:49] <micahg> bdrung: yes, I think as soon as this package is done :)
[20:49] <bdrung> and the source and binary package will be called thunderbird?
[20:50] <micahg> bdrung: yes
[20:50] <bdrung> micahg: ok, then we have to update m-d to the new package name.
[20:50] <micahg> heh
[20:50] <micahg> ok
[20:50] <micahg> should I make a merge proposal?
[20:51] <bdrung> asac: are there other renaming which m-d should be aware of?
[20:51] <bdrung> micahg: merge proposal?
[20:51] <micahg> bdrung: firefox will be unversioned in lucid
[20:51] <micahg> for m-dev
[20:51] <bdrung> micahg: why merge? we have to release it to sid first and then sync it
[20:52] <micahg> to .head?
[20:52] <micahg> idk
[20:52] <micahg> if you
[20:52] <micahg> 're doing it that's fine
[20:52] <bdrung> i can do it.
[20:52] <micahg> k
[20:52] <bdrung> micahg: aha, you meant a bzr merge proposal?
[20:52] <micahg> yes :)
[20:52] <bdrung> micahg: then go ahead. :)
[20:52] <micahg> is head at lp:mozilla-devscripts?
[20:52] <bdrung> micahg: yes
[20:56] <micahg> bdrung: just this file: xul-app-data.csv.Ubuntu
[20:56] <micahg> also, will this break the PPAs?
[20:57] <bdrung> micahg: no, because it is in recommends
[20:59] <micahg> so these versions are just for archive then
[21:00] <bdrung> micahg: yes
[21:04] <asac> bdrung: thunderbird-3.0 -> thunderb ird ... firefox-3.6 -> firefox ... thats it for now
[21:05] <asac> we are not yet sure what to do about future branches and the packag ename
[21:05] <asac> most likely firefox-dev firefox-next firefox-beta or something
[21:05] <bdrung> wow, asac is alive.
[21:05] <bdrung> :)
[21:06] <micahg> bdrung: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/mozilla-devscripts/ff-tb-unversioned
[21:07] <micahg> asac: we fixed xpi:recommends and such
[21:07] <micahg> last hiccup is it recommends tb-3.0 instead of tb
[21:08] <bdrung> micahg: you shouldn't have thunderbird twice
[21:08] <micahg> k
[21:11] <micahg> asac: should I make the unversion firefox and abrowser be * for EOL or leave it 3.6.* fo rnow?
[21:12] <bdrung> i would assume *
[21:13] <fta> BUGabundo, what (gnome/gtk) alternative do we have to gwibber?
[21:13] <BUGabundo> XMPP?
[21:13] <fta> BUGabundo, btw, did you file a bug for ch loosing passwords?
[21:13] <BUGabundo> µblog purple plugin?
[21:13] <BUGabundo> rss
[21:13] <BUGabundo> fta: only in mozilla
[21:13] <BUGabundo> I'm tempted to file one, but need to look deeper
[21:13] <BUGabundo> since it began happening in my android
[21:14] <BUGabundo> so it may be on google side, if I can't reproduce in other sites
[21:17] <micahg> bdrung: updated
[21:20] <asac> micahg: good question.
[21:20] <asac> i would also think * ... but not sure about all the consequences atm
[21:21] <asac> so test use *
[21:21] <asac> lets
[21:21] <micahg> ok
[21:22]  * micahg supposes he could push a version now to test...
[21:30]  * micahg is testing
[21:42] <bdrung> asac: what will happend to xulrunner?
[21:42] <bdrung> micahg: i integrated your changes
[21:42] <micahg> yay!
[21:42] <micahg> bdrung: move to universe
[21:43] <bdrung> micahg: but what how will the name scheme be?
[21:43] <micahg> bdrung: versioned I think still since it has to do with build-deps
[21:43] <micahg> but firefox will not be using it
[21:43] <bdrung> micahg: will there be a xulrunner 1.9.2 in lucid?
[21:43] <micahg> bdrung: yes
[21:43]  * micahg was working on that last week
[21:44] <bdrung> micahg: so i have to add it, too
[21:44]  * micahg just had to diff xul191 and xul192 to see if anything is missing
[21:44] <bdrung> micahg: will there be other new package?
[21:46] <micahg> bdrung: not that I know of at the moment
[21:48] <micahg> bbiab
[21:49] <asac> bdrung: yeah. xul = versioned ... ffox = unverseioned/release channel named
[21:49] <asac> ok off for lunch and some shopping in the land without sales tax ;=)
[21:50] <bdrung> asac: are you aware of this: http://www.cywhale.de/firefox-3-6-font-rendering/ ?
[22:51] <fta> kenvandine_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/366164/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/366169/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/366231/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/366239/
[22:55] <LLStarks> asac, will dailies by getting cairo again?
[22:55] <LLStarks> *br
[22:55] <LLStarks> **be