| JontheEchidna | new k3b upload saves 0.7 mb live cd space \o/ | 00:45 |
|---|---|---|
| Lex79 | I hope this means kffmpegthumbnailer on the CD :P | 00:47 |
| neversfelde | I hoe ffmpegthumbnailer makes less problems for people out there than for me | 00:49 |
| JontheEchidna | we're still 3 MB over | 00:49 |
| Lex79 | :( | 00:50 |
| JontheEchidna | and probably need 4 MB less to make a safe iso | 00:50 |
| JontheEchidna | we were just about there until virtuoso came and added 3.5 MB more | 00:50 |
| Lex79 | is it built with lzma compression? | 00:51 |
| JontheEchidna | probably not, that'd be something to look in to | 00:52 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: it's not http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38505606/virtuoso-opensource_5.0.12-0ubuntu3.diff.gz | 00:54 |
| JontheEchidna | Lex79: Switching would help alleviate some pain, but we'd still have to find clever ways to shrink things elsewhere | 01:01 |
| Lex79 | of course | 01:11 |
| neversfelde | JontheEchidna: is this new kdm theme default for 4.4 or not? Sorry, my bad english seems to prevet me from understandig your post on the list. | 01:13 |
| JontheEchidna | neversfelde: It would have been, but it was too late for 4.4 | 01:14 |
| neversfelde | ok | 01:14 |
| Lex79 | I don't understand why not a kde theme with kubuntu logo ;( | 01:15 |
| Lex79 | *kdm | 01:15 |
| neversfelde | I think we should brand a little bit and I would love to have a theme accepted by the kde artwork team that is probably not 100% upstream | 01:16 |
| JontheEchidna | shtylman has a kubuntu logo and a kde logo version of the theme | 01:17 |
| neversfelde | but I thought that we have a policy which does not accept it for lucid | 01:17 |
| Lex79 | just break the policy | 01:17 |
| Lex79 | :P | 01:17 |
| JontheEchidna | well, the policy is that the artwork is either upstream or is approved by upstream | 01:18 |
| JontheEchidna | and it has been approved by upstream | 01:18 |
| neversfelde | ok, sound good, so use shtylman kubuntu version of kdm's theme | 01:19 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Thanks. | 01:19 |
| neversfelde | I really like it | 01:19 |
| JontheEchidna | What I like about his theme the best is that it actually has a login button :P | 01:19 |
| neversfelde | and I also like of kubuntu branding if KDE likes it too | 01:20 |
| Lex79 | yeah | 01:20 |
| neversfelde | a bit | 01:20 |
| JontheEchidna | Yeah, a little bit of branding is no problem. We're still using the default wallpaper for the background, and the dialog itself is themed to fit in with the default plasma theme | 01:21 |
| neversfelde | we need a custom color like suse :D | 01:21 |
| JontheEchidna | They let openSUSE turn their background a putrid green, so I'd hope they'd let us stick in a logo on the login screen ;P | 01:21 |
| neversfelde | I propose orange :D | 01:21 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: you know, the real problem is make a decision :P | 01:22 |
| JontheEchidna | (and my favorite color is green) | 01:22 |
| Lex79 | me too | 01:22 |
| Lex79 | I like opensuse for his green theme :P | 01:22 |
| JontheEchidna | but I find the green air wallpaper... blegh | 01:22 |
| Lex79 | I don't like that | 01:23 |
| neversfelde | Susis and KDE chose the right way, We should do branding klike they did | 01:23 |
| neversfelde | unforunatley we are blue ;) | 01:23 |
| neversfelde | so, we can only do minor changes | 01:23 |
| shtylman | JontheEchidna neversfelde: I have actually removed the kde logo altogether as per request of pinheiro: http://www.shtylman.com/stuff/kdm_latest.png ... we can put it back for kubuntu if we want... but just letting yall know the route upstream is taking | 03:37 |
| Lex79 | shtylman: why not with kubuntu logo? | 03:43 |
| shtylman | Lex79: pinheiro isn't too fond of it... and with the new wallpaper it might make the whole scene a bit more "crowded" | 03:45 |
| shtylman | i.e. another element to distract you | 03:45 |
| shtylman | this way it stays simpler | 03:45 |
| shtylman | focusing on the task at hand...and that is to login | 03:45 |
| Lex79 | ok, I understand | 03:46 |
| ScottK | Looks good to me, but what do I know .... | 04:02 |
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| superm1 | ScottK, in fixing the ubiquity KDE frontend i had some feedback; you should only show that uBlog thing if there is enough space on the desktop. it makes it really hard to double click the install icon: http://imagebin.org/82797 | 07:37 |
| ghostcube | o/ | 08:24 |
| ScottK | superm1: Makes sense. shtylman: Can we do that? | 11:26 |
| tumaix | Ppl, I'm having a lot of issues on kubuntu 9.10 + kde4 from the ppa, | 11:27 |
| tumaix | not on crashes or anithing, but, well, My app doesn't work as expected | 11:28 |
| tumaix | but it does work in the other major distros ( tested on fedora, opensuse, mandriva and archilinux ) | 11:28 |
| tumaix | I'm not sure where the problem is, in kubuntu, but I think it's something related to QtScript. | 11:29 |
| ghostcube | tumaix: do you run Qt 4.6 as well dont know if the other distros ship 4.6 too | 11:51 |
| tumaix | ghostcube: yes, I'm on qt 4.6, the others are using 4.6 too since I need it to compile and run. | 12:00 |
| ghostcube | hmm then i dont know :) but it was just a guess i think the others in here have more ideas about | 12:00 |
| tumaix | ghostcube: what I cant* tell you is if the people that tested on the other distros are using a compiled-by-hand version of qt. | 12:00 |
| tumaix | ghostcube: the major problem for me is that I cant test my own app in my machine, because I got unexpected errors ( like a 'undefined' in the QtScript console, without saying the line error, but without doing the job too ) | 12:01 |
| ghostcube | tumaix: uh sounds not good, i think the guys doing the qt packaging arent on or afk | 12:02 |
| ghostcube | so stay in a bit i think they will tell you | 12:02 |
| tumaix | ghostcube: can you point me who they are, so I know which one to ping? =) | 12:07 |
| ghostcube | io would start with Riddell or JontheEchidna :) | 12:07 |
| ghostcube | they could tell you i think so | 12:07 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm not really knowledgable on QtScript | 12:07 |
| tumaix | JontheEchidna: but can you try to reproduce my issue? ;) | 12:11 |
| JontheEchidna | not knowledgable enough :D | 12:11 |
| JontheEchidna | If you gave me step-by-step instructions, maybe. But I also have to leave for class in a few minutes | 12:13 |
| tumaix | if you package KDE, you already have everything there. | 12:13 |
| tumaix | since it's a kde app. | 12:13 |
| tumaix | do you have kdeedu sources there? | 12:13 |
| tumaix | all that you need to do is run one app + one example. | 12:15 |
| tumaix | the expected result in kubuntu is that it will do nothing. -.-' | 12:15 |
| JontheEchidna | which app?> | 12:17 |
| tumaix | Rocs, | 12:19 |
| tumaix | click in the node tool, add a bunch of them, | 12:19 |
| tumaix | randomly connect them with edges | 12:19 |
| tumaix | then go file -> script -> open, travel to rocs sources -> src -> Scripts -> coloring.js | 12:20 |
| tumaix | and click in 'run' | 12:20 |
| JontheEchidna | will look at it later, I have to go now. | 12:20 |
| tumaix | ow, well. | 12:20 |
| tumaix | so I will poke Riddell, ping ;) | 12:23 |
| neversfelde | tumaix: I have no coloring.js on my system after installing rocs | 12:59 |
| tumaix | neversfelde: it's only in the sources. | 13:12 |
| tumaix | used for internal debugging ;) | 13:12 |
| shtylman | ScottK: I *think* there is a programatic way to hide widgets .. but im not sure... we could just disable that one altogether. | 13:14 |
| tumaix | shtylman: widget.hide(); | 13:14 |
| shtylman | tumaix: but can I do that from an external program? not the widget code itself... | 13:18 |
| neversfelde | tumaix: I cannot reproduce the bug with our current development version | 13:18 |
| shtylman | I realize I can hide it from the widget code | 13:18 |
| shtylman | ScottK: I guess the uBlog code would have to be modified to be smart about desktop size | 13:18 |
| tumaix | neversfelde: you mean that the nodes are being collored? | 13:20 |
| neversfelde | tumaix: yes, two of them turned red | 13:20 |
| tumaix | neversfelde: hm.... | 13:21 |
| tumaix | I'm using 9.10 + 4.4 ppa | 13:21 |
| neversfelde | probably a problem with the ppa packages | 13:21 |
| neversfelde | sorry, I cannot test, because I have no Karmic here at the moment | 13:21 |
| tumaix | well, if it's a problem with the ppa packages, it's a great relief. | 13:21 |
| tumaix | I was worried =) | 13:21 |
| tumaix | thanks for your time | 13:21 |
| Quintasan | hmm anyone can suggest me a DAMN GOOD wireless set (mouse and keyboard)? | 13:35 |
| neversfelde | Quintasan: I have a cherry g260 set, it is very good | 13:38 |
| Quintasan | neversfelde: how much did you pay? | 13:40 |
| neversfelde | Quintasan: I can't remember, it is an older one, so it shouldn't be that expensive anymore | 13:41 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192&cl=us,en | 14:02 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, a wireless keyboard with touchpad :-) | 14:03 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: my wrists hurt, just a little more and they will sue me to European Court for violating human laws | 14:04 |
| Quintasan | :P | 14:04 |
| rbelem | eheheh | 14:04 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: besides I have a tablet so no need for a touchpad | 14:10 |
| Zorael | Amarok in the beta ppa crashes upon startup, and I'm not sure it's Amarok's fault or if some library update from another ppa is causing it. Would anyone mind taking a look at the kcrash at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/366861 ? | 14:16 |
| Tm_T | Zorael: does reinstall of phonon help? | 14:16 |
| Zorael | Tm_T: I reinstalled phonon-backend-xine, haven't tried the main phonon package yet, one moment | 14:17 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, it is nice to think the fact I don't need to move my entire arm, just need to move my fingers, and i don't need to carry a mouse | 14:18 |
| rbelem | :-) | 14:18 |
| rbelem | i would like to have one :-) | 14:18 |
| Zorael | Tm_T: Still crashes. It draws the entire UI (sans playlist and file entries), and then closes and DrKonqi pops up | 14:19 |
| Zorael | The tail of the output from amarok -d looks like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/366868. | 14:25 |
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| jussi01 | could someone test if its just me, or does tremulous really not work in lucid? | 15:17 |
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| Riddell | morning | 16:50 |
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| Riddell | gosh, it's late in europe | 16:51 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: \o | 16:51 |
| Quintasan | 5 pm ain't so late :) | 16:51 |
| Riddell | no but it's only early o'clock in the US | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | well, I don't have sleeping included in my plans for next 3 days or so :P | 16:53 |
| Quintasan | 4.4 tags on 4th Feb, right? | 16:53 |
| Riddell | yes indeed | 16:53 |
| neversfelde | I guess we are not planning to backport the rc3? | 16:54 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: I don't think it's a priority | 16:56 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: did you look into changing input method for qt? | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: yes, it is not a problem if you have installed with japanese locale | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | locale is jp_JP and uim automatically picks that | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | if you want to use japanese output and you have different locale (like me) you need to install for eg. uim and uim-anthy then do im-switch -v -z pl_PL -c and select uim | 17:00 |
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| Riddell | ubottu: what is uim? | 17:01 |
| ubottu | I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 17:01 |
| Riddell | huh? | 17:01 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what is uim? | 17:01 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: it's a input method system | 17:02 |
| Quintasan | like IBus or SKIM | 17:03 |
| Quintasan | actually ibus-anthy fails at kanji, as soon as you press enter to accept (with space you switch kanjis) they disappear | 17:03 |
| Quintasan | props to Zorael go for that | 17:03 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: I'm confused. doesn't kimpanel support ibus now and that's what we want to use? | 17:04 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I don't know if we can solve it on software-level. I can write a page on wiki for this if neccessary | 17:05 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I've tried with ibus, didn't work :( | 17:05 |
| Riddell | freeflying: you're not in portland are you? | 17:05 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: I don't have uim listed in the right click menu for line edits | 17:05 |
| Quintasan | I tried selecting different IM in im-switch but the panel itself doesn't offer any option for anthy | 17:05 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: you will need to install it | 17:06 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: sudo aptitude install uim uim-qt uim-anthy anthy | 17:06 |
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| Lex79 | bah :( phonon stuff | 18:34 |
| Lex79 | in kdelibs, FindPhonon.cmake | 18:35 |
| Lex79 | find_path(PHONON_INCLUDE_DIR NAMES phonon/phonon_export.h | 18:35 |
| Lex79 | in kdebase-runtime: | 18:35 |
| Lex79 | #include <Phonon/ObjectDescription> | 18:35 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 18:36 |
| Lex79 | it's a hell | 18:36 |
| Lex79 | I'm thinking someone is stupid rickspencer3 | 18:36 |
| * Quintasan <3 case sensitiveness sometimes | 18:36 | |
| Lex79 | ops | 18:36 |
| Lex79 | I mean....Riddell | 18:36 |
| Quintasan | :O | 18:36 |
| Quintasan | the good think is that bindings are building | 18:36 |
| Quintasan | thing | 18:36 |
| * Lex79 tries to patch kdelibs | 18:37 | |
| * Quintasan hands an energy drink to Lex79 | 18:38 | |
| * Lex79 is becoming crazy | 18:38 | |
| Lex79 | thanks :) | 18:38 |
| Quintasan | I have a strange premotion that I don't want even to look at the code | 18:38 |
| Lex79 | don't look ! | 18:39 |
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| Riddell | Lex79: are you calling rick stupid?! | 18:41 |
| Lex79 | nope | 18:41 |
| Riddell | good good :) | 18:41 |
| Lex79 | someone in KDE is stupid | 18:42 |
| Lex79 | I'm thinking | 18:42 |
| Riddell | or Qt is | 18:42 |
| Lex79 | ehhh, right | 18:42 |
| Lex79 | did you see Riddell ^^ | 18:42 |
| Quintasan | Trolltech was trolling and nokia is maintaining the troll | 18:42 |
| Quintasan | :P | 18:42 |
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| Lex79 | phonon/phonon_export.h in kdelibs | 18:43 |
| Lex79 | #include <Phonon/ObjectDescription> in runtime | 18:43 |
| Lex79 | lol | 18:43 |
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| Lex79 | kdelibs's cmake is happy now | 18:54 |
| * ryanakca sighs, I clicked "Hide automatically" for «tableau de bord» (bar at top/bottom of screen that used to be known as kicker) and now I can't get it to show up :/ | 19:00 | |
| Riddell | ryanakca: website ping, what's the current status? | 19:02 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: you can call it just panel like rest of us do (; and, does relogin help? | 19:07 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Waiting for the sysadmins to pull. Ofir's theme is approaching completion I believe | 19:10 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: who's the likely sysadmin? Ng? | 19:11 |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: Ah, yes, that's what it's called (I've been using KDE in French for the past few months, so the English terminology has faded a bit) | 19:11 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Most likely. | 19:11 |
| Riddell | hmm, I don't think here's here this week, maybe I can get elmo to poke him though | 19:12 |
| Riddell | s/here's/he's/ | 19:12 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Ah, OK. | 19:13 |
| Quintasan | Urgh, anyone wants to sponsor me a new keyboard? | 19:23 |
| Lex79 | nope | 19:23 |
| Quintasan | :< | 19:23 |
| * Quintasan is broke | 19:24 | |
| ryanakca | Quintasan: Some local (as in, not brand name) computer stores have cheap keyboards for 2-3$ | 19:37 |
| Quintasan | ryanakca: I have that cheap keyboard, and few keys already don't work, don't even mention my wrists condition | 19:39 |
| * Quintasan brought this upon himself | 19:39 | |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: Nope, login/out doesn't work, I'll hunt in ~/.kde for an option ... can you reproduce it? | 19:40 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: no sorry, but then again my pc is in Intrepid running KDE trunk... | 19:40 |
| Tm_T | I should try if this PPC laptop would run Lucid well | 19:41 |
| Zorael | How is Lucid at the moment? No more mesa woes? (About to take the plunge since I can't figure out these Amarok crashes.) | 20:35 |
| Riddell | mesa got sorted a while ago | 20:36 |
| Tm_T | Mamarok: lovely (:) | 20:54 |
| Mamarok | Tm_T: who is that guy? | 20:55 |
| Tm_T | no idea, but I watched like you stepped into some kind of landmine | 20:55 |
| Mamarok | seems so, no way I am going to do a screenshot for that guy, he can Google for heaven's sake | 20:57 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: mind doing quick review for new fancytask? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7564 | 21:13 |
| a|wen | Quintasan: is the package in universe? if you haven't got a sponsor in an hour then ping me and i should have time to take a look | 21:34 |
| Riddell | the .po generation in fancytask is weird | 22:05 |
| Riddell | but universe, so not an issue | 22:05 |
| ubuntu | Daily live installer crashes upon start; http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/367130/ | 22:25 |
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| JontheEchidna | Zorael: just got fixed today. The fix should arrive in tomorrow's spin | 22:26 |
| Zorael | JontheEchidna: Okay, thanks | 22:27 |
| ejat | any kde 4.4 sc rc3 available ? | 22:33 |
| neversfelde | ejat: no | 22:33 |
| neversfelde | new kbluetooth release :) | 23:15 |
| neversfelde | that's good | 23:15 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: ooh that is good | 23:23 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: and the blog post mentions, that many bugs are fixed | 23:23 |
| neversfelde | kbluetooth, k3b xmas in February :D | 23:24 |
| Riddell | k3b? | 23:25 |
| neversfelde | beta1 | 23:26 |
| neversfelde | http://www.afiestas.org/kbluetooth-0-4-is-here/ | 23:26 |
| Sput | apachelogger: around? | 23:40 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I added back the plasma-netbook.desktop file, it's set to hidden=true, casper is set to enable it for kubuntu netbook | 23:41 |
| Riddell | neversfelde thought you would like to know :) | 23:41 |
| neversfelde | :) | 23:42 |
| JontheEchidna | (kdebluetooth 0.4 in lucid, btw) | 23:43 |
| neversfelde | that was fast | 23:43 |
| JontheEchidna | :D | 23:44 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: could you push k3b through new queue please? | 23:44 |
| Riddell | I wonder what k3b-extratheme is | 23:49 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: 700 kb less on the livecd :) | 23:50 |
| JontheEchidna | sheds some of the extra themes that k3b ships | 23:50 |
| neversfelde | we should update choqok to a newer git snaphsot, many features are added there. How can I do it? Create a bug report like the ones for new upstream releases? | 23:53 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: are you asking how to request that someone does it, or how to do it yourself? | 23:55 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: doing it myself | 23:56 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: no bug needed then | 23:56 |
| neversfelde | I tested some newer packages in my ppa for some time now | 23:56 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: where shall I put the orig.tar, diff.gz and dsc then, so that a core dev can upload it? | 23:59 |
| maco | people.ubuntu.com? | 23:59 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: anywhere, bug report is fine indeed, or revu, or a web server | 23:59 |
| Riddell | or a PPA for that matter | 23:59 |
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