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keithycan you create a heirarchical structure of branches?01:59
RAOFkeithy: Yes, by branching in a heirarchical manner.  It's not clear what you actually want to do, though.02:11
keithyI mean can have launchpad.net/myproject/packages/package102:12
keithyI mean can have launchpad.net/myproject/packages/package202:12
james_wnope02:12
RAOFA super-project might be what you're after, though.02:12
keithyit appears all github's launchpads have a flat structure02:13
keithya super project?02:13
RAOFI think the technical term might be “project group” - https://launchpad.net/bazaar is an example.02:13
RAOFIt's a project with many subprojects - the core, plugins, GUIs, etc.02:14
keithythe faq says only ask if you really need it02:14
keithywell we have a potential of 700 loadable packages02:14
RAOFWhat is the common thread to them?02:14
RAOFIs that a core project + lots of plugins?02:15
keithythey load into squeak image, or our kernel image derived form squeak called cuis02:15
keithyso ...02:15
keithylooks like one project for cuis02:15
keithyand cuis-packages02:15
RAOFSo you're talking about packages, rather than projects?02:16
keithywell each package is someones project I suppose but they tend to be developed elsewhere02:16
keithywe are just making the cuis-loadable versions here02:17
RAOFAnd the thing that you want to do is to aggregate all these projects in a single, useful place?02:17
keithyand structure the ordanization02:17
RAOFIt does sound like you might want a distro :)02:17
keithyfor example the webapp seaside has 40 odd  packages in its own right.02:17
RAOFI'm not sure of the process here.  You might want to describe in detail what you want to do in a mail to the launchpad mailing list; that should get you a better answer.02:18
RAOFMost of the LP devs are currently asleep in Europe :)02:18
keithynow theres a good idea02:20
adamplumbI've submitted a translation template on launchpad for my project on Jan 24, and it is still in the import queue.  What can I do to get this thing imported?02:22
keithyI can never find the create project ui in laichpad02:25
keithyah the front page!02:26
AnAntHello, why don't karmic repos in Launchpad PPA accept 3.0 source formats ?06:06
wgrantAnAnt: Because Karmic doesn't support v3...06:26
wgrantNot properly, at least.06:26
wgrantSo we have not enabled it.06:26
AnAntok07:02
keithyouch, I selected the focus of development and it renamed by branch, how do I get it back!07:29
wgrantkeithy: It didn't really rename your branch -- it just added an alias.07:30
keithysure, but the original isnt visible07:30
keithysoooo.07:30
wgrantkeithy: lp:~user/project/branch always works. But if a branch is assigned to a project series, lp:project/series works. If that series is the development focus, lp:project works.07:30
keithyI have 4 repos that are the focus of development simultaneously07:31
keithyI set this one as an experiment, how do I undo07:32
keithysince my documentation has already been emailed out07:32
wgrantUnset it in the same place you set it.07:33
keithyI set it when I clicked on the "set it now banner"07:34
keithywhich is no longer present07:34
wgrantkeithy: Go to the series page, then find the edit link at the top of the middle column.07:35
keithycool... now how to get rid of the banner07:37
wgrantSet a branch as the development focus. Which is the project?07:38
keithyCuis2.007:38
wgrantkeithy: Wouldn't 'unstable' be the focus of development?07:39
keithyyes07:39
keithybut it disappears form the repository list07:40
keithyand I have already sent out the documentation07:40
wgrantIt won't disappear. It will just be displayed with an alias.07:40
wgrantAll URLs and commands with the old name remain valid.07:40
keithyand it wont say "unstable" any more07:40
wgrantIt won't, no.07:40
keithyok I renamed trunk to unstable07:42
wgrantAh, that could work.07:42
tumbleweedI copied (not rebuilt) some packages from one PPA to another over 24hrs ago, and they are still listed as Pending. Any reason why?10:01
wgranttumbleweed: Which PPA?10:03
tumbleweedwgrant: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ibid-core/+archive/ppa "pysilc - 0.5-1~ppa+8" et. al10:04
tumbleweedwgrant: all the other packages I copied in that batch copied fine10:04
wgrantThere is something really bad going on here.10:05
tumbleweed:/10:05
wgranttumbleweed: OK, no, nothing going wrong.10:08
wgranttumbleweed: You copied a new batch approximately two minutes after you asked in here.10:09
wgrantThe previous ones were already published.10:09
tumbleweedwgrant: yeah, sorry10:09
wgrantOh, there's still a whole unpublished lot.10:10
wgranttumbleweed: Not really important, but why did you copy the same version of configobj in again? That had me confused for a couple of minutes.10:10
tumbleweedwgrant: copied from interpid tI can't build those packages on hardy, but the intrepid debs will work10:11
tumbleweedwgrant: ok, that batch have published now, but the pysilc one is still pending10:12
tumbleweeds/one/ones/10:12
wgrantYes, that's very odd.10:12
tumbleweedthey do appear in the Packages lists, though10:12
wgranttumbleweed: So you rebuild-copy the intrepid source into that PPA, wait for it to build, then copy it to hardy with binaries?10:14
tumbleweedwgrant: yeah, it's very hacky, but it saves on having to have two rules files10:14
wgranttumbleweed: The problem is that a different version of the orig.tar.gz existed in the PPA before. THe copy should never have been permitted.10:45
tumbleweedwgrant: aha, thanks10:47
tumbleweedwgrant: yes, it's a .tar.bz2 upstream and has to get repacked10:48
tumbleweedwgrant: I'll delete and recopy10:48
wgranttumbleweed: It's probably best to not do anything just yet.10:49
tumbleweedwgrant: ok :)10:49
jussi01Hey all, is there a way to send people messages through the launchpad api?11:02
jussi01ie. I own a team and I want to send everyone in the team a message through the api.11:03
wgrantjussi01: There's no API for it, but you can send up to three messages a day through the web UI.11:04
jussi01wgrant: given what we need to do, thats going to be horrible :(11:05
wgrantjussi01: You could just PM everyone...11:06
jussi01wgrant: no thank you. :)11:06
tumbleweedjussi01: isn't that what team mailing lists are for?11:09
jussi01tumbleweed: not in this case. its a once off message11:10
napsterHow to add a download tarball of my project to lp?11:12
napsterHow to add a download tarball of my project to lp?11:15
napsternoodles775, How to add a download tarball of my project to lp?11:17
noodles775napster: it's not something I've done before, but the help says this: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/FileDownloads11:18
napsternoodles775, ok tnx :)11:19
jussi01wgrant: is there any way to temporarily evade the 3 msg limit? is there someone I can bug?11:48
wgrantjussi01: Not without someone running very bad SQL every three messages.11:50
wgrantjussi01: Alternatively, find n/3 team admins, where n is the number of teams.11:50
jussi01wgrant: mrgh11:50
napsternoodles775, What is the difference between, "bzr add" and "bzr add ."  ?11:56
detlyhi, I meant to create a PPA for the rabbitvcs team, but mistakenly created it under my own name12:33
detlyis it possible to transfer it, or remove it and start over?12:33
noodles775detly: you can just create one for the rabbitvcs team right? (if you like, you can delete the packages in your personal one, and/or disable it)12:34
noodles775But no, transferring isn't an option.12:35
detlyokay12:35
detlyit's empty, so I don't care about anything being lost12:35
detlyhow do I disable it?12:35
detlyoh, wait, I see it now12:36
detlygreat12:36
noodles775detly: click on "Change details", there's an option there for enable/disable.12:36
noodles775Great :)12:36
detlyI can't create a PPA on rabbitvcs, but I think that's because I'm not an owner, so I'll contact him12:37
detlythanks for the help :)12:38
gesersinzui: re bug #514824: yes, it's still happening. I've no problem visiting the pages for other source packages. I've also asked in #ubuntu-motu before filing the bug and others had the same problem.12:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 514824 in launchpad-registry "No permissions to view https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hypre" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51482412:50
sinzuigeser: It is impossible to make this private. I wonder if something is private on it that break it for you.12:51
sinzuigeser: can you see it logged out?12:51
gesersinzui: yes, when I logout then I can visit the page12:53
sinzuigeser: when you are logged in, can you see this page: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hypre/+changelog12:53
sinzuigeser: and what of this page: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hypre12:54
gesersinzui: yes (changelog) and yes (bugs)12:55
geserbranches and answers too, but not overview12:55
gesersinzui: after trying all possible links on this page, I found the one which I can't visit: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fenics-packages-core/+archive/fenics-ppa/13:02
sinzuigeser: I can see it. It is disabled, but nothing odd about it13:03
sinzuiI will add this to the bug13:03
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bacHi Launchpad.  I am the help contact for the week, but I cannot currently change the channel topic to show it.  Anyway, please ask me if you have issues or questions about Launchpad.14:09
tsimpsonbac: /msg ChanServ op #launchpad14:16
tsimpsonor /msg ChanServ topic #launchpad your new topic14:16
bactsimpson: thanks but i'm not an op14:16
bactsimpson: we're working on getting it fixed14:16
tsimpsonyou have a launchpad cloak, so you are an op14:17
tsimpson3     *!*@canonical/launchpad/* +votiA [modified 1 year, 6 weeks, 2 days, 14:58:14 ago]14:17
tsimpsonso you can request +o from ChanServ14:17
tsimpsonmagic ;)14:17
bactsimpson: i swear i tried that 30 minutes ago14:17
falktxhi14:18
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falktxi have a question14:18
bachi falktx14:18
falktxi know I can't package non-free stuff on PPAs14:18
tsimpsonmaybe you wern't identified at the time14:18
falktxso I was thinking about net-installers14:18
falktxa dummy package that will, in postinst, download and install binaries14:19
falktxis this okay?14:19
tsimpsonlook at how the flashplugin-installer package works, but you should probably have permission from the company to do that14:20
tsimpsonand make sure the user agrees to any EULA stuff14:20
falktxhmm14:20
tsimpsonI guess #ubuntu-motu would know more about it14:21
bacfalktx: that may be a bit sketchy for a PPA.  i'll ask and find out.14:21
falktxit is mostly about steinberg VST14:21
falktxthe SDK is "non-free", can be downloaded but not shared14:21
falktxI wanted to package wineasio and other VST Synths14:21
falktxlook at: http://www.anticore.org/jucetice/?page_id=714:22
falktxthe site offers downloads14:22
falktxbut they cannot be shared among people14:22
falktxmy idea was a net-installer for all those plugins14:23
falktxsorry about disconnecting, my net is bad14:35
falktxso, can I package those plugins ?14:36
tsimpsonfalktx: I think bac is still checking for you14:36
bacfalktx: yeah, give me some time and i'll get back to you.14:36
napsterHow the PUSH from two developers coordinated in lp?14:41
maxbnapster: Your question is not very clear, could you try to rephrase?14:48
napstermaxb, Suppose two developers are there, how the source code is managed in launchpad? I'm new to lp.14:54
maxbnapster: OK... this seems like more of a general Bazaar usage question, for which you might be better off asking on #bzr directly.14:55
napstermaxb, ok tnx14:56
glenhehe, bazaar diff-er has tiny bug: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~eventum-developers/eventum/trunk/revision/4035 - "'\\ No newline at end of file'" -- that looks like part of the file, altho it's just result from diff, and why is the backslash escaped? :)14:56
tumbleweednapster: you have options: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.0/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html14:57
napstertumbleweed, tnk you :)14:57
glenin other words diff(1) reports "\ No newline at end of file" like "+ added", "- removed", which looks wrong in there14:57
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bacfalktx_: Whether your plan would work in a PPA is a question for a MOTU, perhaps wgrant. From a Launchpad policy perspective I find it a bit unseemly but would need to talk to the Soyuz team lead.15:03
noodles775falktx_: Either way, you should definitely be in contact with the company to see what *they* would prefer.15:05
napsterI've made a bad request! I've applied bzr branch lp:xxxx from inside the inited local xxxx directory! Now a subfolder named xxxx is inside xxxx. How can I rollback?15:13
mok0napster: delete the directory and start over?15:14
napstermok0, yes15:14
napsterxxxx was already initialized!15:14
mok0napster: It doesn't matter.15:14
mok0napster: just zap it15:15
napsterAnd what I actually tried to do was bzr push lp:xxxx, but unfortunatly it was bzr branch lp:xxxx15:15
mok0napster: I mean, delete xxxx/xxxx15:15
napstermok0, ok, tnk you... :)15:15
napstermok0, xxxx/xxxx deleted, do I need "bzr add ."?15:16
mok0napster: is xxxx a branch?15:17
napsterxxxx is a branch15:17
mok0napster: try "bzr info"15:17
napsterStand alone tree 2a15:17
mok0napster: then "." should already be added15:17
napstermok0, ?15:17
mok0"bzr status" sorry15:18
mok0napster, if you've checked out a branch, and it contains files, there is no reason to "bzr add ."15:18
mok0napster: if you add a new file to the tree, you should "bzr add" just that one file15:18
napstermok0, ok got it.15:19
mok0napster: you can always use brz status to see what's going on15:19
napstermok0, How can I list all bzr tracked files in my local branch?15:19
mok0napster: heh. I'm still looking for that one too :-)15:20
mok0napster: basically, everything that's *not* shown by "bzr status" it knows about15:21
napstermok0, Yes, bzr status is very helpful... If I got to know listing, I'll update you... tnx a lot mate... :)15:21
mok0napster: np15:21
napstermok0, Got it. Its "bzr inventory"... Try it.. :)15:22
mok0napster: indeed it is! Thanks :-)15:23
napstermok0, np :)15:23
mok0napster, there's a program called "bzr explorer" that might be worth looking into15:25
mok0http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/explorer/en/visual-tour-gnome.html15:25
mok0napster: if you're a gui-kind-of-person15:26
napstermok0, Upto an extend, I am. I've tried olive back in last year. This one looks nice though....15:27
napstermok0, Olive was not this much feature rich : http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/Olive/15:27
mok0napster: ah, yes, I think I've tried that once15:28
napstermok0, ok...15:28
mok0napster: generally, I don't need a gui for bzr15:28
mok0napster: with git, I like gitk because it gives you a graphical view of how the branches are related. I don't think there's a similar tool for bzr15:29
napstermok0, I've never used git :(15:30
mok0napster: In bzr, the branches are generally oblivious of each other, except their parent. In git, all branches exist side-by-side in the same tree15:30
napstermok0, Much intelligent merging right?15:31
mok0napster: yes15:31
mok0git is the king of DVCS'es in my opinion.15:32
napstermok0, :)15:32
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napstermok0, It should be... Thats why our kernel hosted there...15:32
mok0bzr is nice in the way that it lets you define the workflow more15:32
napster;)15:32
mok0napster: right, but it is designed around the workflow that Linus likes to use and nothing else15:33
mok0napster: ... which means it is designed to be strictly distributed15:33
mok0napster: bzr can function in a "server-client" sort of way too15:34
napstermok0, ok15:34
mok0napster: anyway, it is a strength that Ubuntu only has *one* VCS to worry about. In Debian, for example, they use svn, git, arch, bzr, etc.15:35
mok0napster: which means you have to know them all :-)15:35
mok0napster: And LP is totally brilliant for code hosting15:35
napstermok0, I see... Really user friendly too...15:36
mok0napster: Indeed, although the user interface takes getting used to :-)15:36
napstermok0, I'm learning it... ;-)15:37
mok0napster: cool. Then this is a great place to hang out15:37
napstermok0, Exactly :)15:38
noodles775mok0: there is the bzr-gtk plugin, (after installing, try bzr visualize)15:38
napsternoodles775, For firefox?15:38
noodles775gtk15:38
mok0noodles775: oh yes! I actually had it installed, but I've only used it once...15:39
mok0napster: no a plugin for bzr15:39
mok0napster: you can add functions to bzr by installing plugins15:39
mok0napster: They are in your ~/.bazaar/plugins dir15:40
napsternoodles775, Where I could get that plugin?15:40
mok0napster: and they're usually hosted on LP, so all you need to do is to go into that dir and brz branch lp:xxxx15:41
mok0napster: the bzr-gtk plugin I believe you can get via apt-get15:41
noodles775yep, apt-get install bzr-gtk15:42
napstermok0, noodles775 OK...15:42
mok0noodles775: AFAICS bzr-gtk only deals with the current branch15:43
mok0noodles775: gitk deals with all branches, and display how one derives from another etc.15:43
napstermok0, But git is purely centralized right?15:44
mok0napster: yes15:44
mok0napster: uhm well it depends on what you mean15:44
mok0napster: git has "stacked branches"15:44
napstermok0, I mean the workflow... :)15:44
mok0napster: ah, no git is purely distributed15:45
napstermok0, ok15:45
mok0napster: bzr can be used both distributed and centralized15:45
mok0napster: one reason is that Linux despises the svn workflow15:45
mok0s/Linux/Linus15:45
napster;)15:46
mok0http://buytaert.net/linus-torvalds-on-git if you have 70 minutes to spare :)15:47
bacintellectronica: try now15:47
intellectronica1 2 3 test15:47
intellectronica\o/15:47
bacintellectronica: was it only here?15:47
asabilmok0, qbzr is able to display all branches15:47
mok0asabil: ah! I will check it out15:48
tsimpsonbac: unregistered users are still muted here15:48
bacgah15:48
intellectronicabac: also #launchpad-dev and #launchpad-reviews15:48
tsimpson/mode #launchpad -q $~a15:48
* asabil wishes that launchpad could be easily installed on a private server15:48
mok0asabil: huh? I installed it but it's not working15:50
asabilmok0, that's the issue15:50
asabilit is such a pain to deploy15:50
mok0asabil: oh15:51
mok0asabil: I need to edit config files?15:51
asabilyes15:51
mok0asabil: ah, I thought it was a matter of installing and then do "bzr qbzr"15:52
asabilmok0, we are not talking about the same thing :)15:52
asabilfor qbzr it is very easy15:52
asabilinstall and run bzr qlog15:52
asabilI was talking about launchpad itself15:52
mok0asabil: kk :-)15:53
mok0asabil: why "qlog"? That's completely un-intuitive!15:54
asabilmok0, well, because it is the same as bzr log15:54
mok0asabil: very nice tool otherwise. I can see different branches allright15:54
mok0asabil: no, it's not. If I do bzr log in the same directory, I get and error message15:56
mok0s/and/an15:56
mok0asabil: so it's actually more confusing that it's called qlog and not qbzr ;-)15:56
asabilmok0, I meant to say, it is the visual equivalent to bzr log15:56
mok0asabil: yeah I can see that. But still15:57
asabilmok0, well not really, there are other commands like bzr qcommit, bzr qpull ...15:57
mok0asabil: I am trying it out in a shared repo. Can't remember if I have a "not shared" one to test on15:58
mok0Hmm, qbzr, very nice indeed. /me is impressed15:59
mok0... and it doen't go into full screen mode when you invoke it like brz-gtk :-)16:00
mok0asabil: will bzr qlog in any way block the repo? Can you background it so it just sits there, updating the status of the repo?16:01
asabilmok0, I am not sure16:02
asabilmok0, I think what you want is bzr-explorer16:03
mok0asabil: Yeah, I will check that out sometime16:03
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kikommm16:28
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glenhey, could somebody explain me why the launcpad translation (https://translations.launchpad.net/eventum/trunk/+pots/eventum/lv/714/+translate) does not appear in automatic export (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~glen666/eventum/po/annotate/head:/localization/lv.po#L3271), yes the project is configured to export translations to that branch17:33
glenperhaps i overwrote it when i bzr merge the po branch from trunk?17:37
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maxbjames_w: Hi! Can you tell me what happened to the bzr branches at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/subversion/+branches  ?  They were there, but have gone!17:59
james_whi maxb17:59
james_wI'm not sure I'm afraid18:00
maxbOh. I though you'd have been one of the few with permission to delete those :-)18:00
james_wmaxb: yes, it was probably me :-)18:05
james_wI'm just not sure why I did that18:05
james_wI think it was a bulk operation I did to clear out some broken branches, but I'm not sure why subversion was included18:06
No`hi all18:15
No`quick question about rosetta: If I have a template with "needs review"-marked items, how do I spot them - except by browsing the strings?18:16
henningeNo`: you can click on the number, can't you?18:17
No`no, I can't. Maybe it's because I'm on edge?18:18
henningeNo`: which template? Please give me the link.18:19
No`https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/pyroom/ - The french one18:20
No`(and all the others)18:20
No`sorry, gotta go... I'll try to catch you later18:22
henningeNo`: You will have to drill down to the specific template to get clickable numbers, like so:18:25
henningehttps://translations.edge.launchpad.net/pyroom/trunk/+pots/pyroom18:25
dpmhenninge, <glen> hey, could somebody explain me why the launcpad translation (https://translations.launchpad.net/eventum/trunk/+pots/eventum/lv/714/+translate) does not appear in automatic export (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~glen666/eventum/po/annotate/head:/localization/lv.po#L3271), yes the project is configured to export translations to that branch18:42
spweltonanybody here ever upload to a ppa using ubuntu's "quickly" tool? I can't seem to get it to work18:42
No`henninge: cheers, it worked. pretty cool!18:52
henningeglen, dpm: I have no idea tbh. Maybe jtv-eat has a better idea?18:54
henningeNo`: glad I could help18:54
glenabentley: recall you suggested me to bzr merge in both branches? now imho merge on po-export branch discarded some launchpad translations18:56
glenrelevant chat log: http://pld.pastebin.com/f5b15e71d18:56
abentleyglen, you merged po into trunk, then you merged trunk into po, and Launchpad translations were deleted?18:59
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\u03b5problems submitting bugs? « Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. »19:12
jtv-eatal-maisan: in line 409, getEstimatedJobStartTime reads builder_stats[platform], where builder_stats comes out of get_builder_data.  Is it absolutely certain that that entry exists in the dict?19:13
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jtvhmm, there's a better channel for this, sorry :)19:13
glenabentley: seems so, at least the back merge seems had deleted that translation entry i mentioned19:34
glenabentley: from r3993.1.1 says annotate came empty msgstr19:35
glenas seems to me the point where merge was made, ie inital lv.po import did not had it translated, but it came translated in latter launchpad push to po-branch19:36
abentleyglen, once you had done the merge from trunk into po, what did you do next?  Did you push --overwrite it into Launchpad?19:52
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james_whas somebody broken lp_save on bugs, or is an appserver out of date?20:12
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thekornjames_w, is it on staging?20:15
james_wedge20:15
thekornI've a lot of problems on staging today20:16
james_wI'm seeing it on production too20:19
james_wI can't see where it's getting the etag for the if-match it is sending from20:23
glenabentley: i just did push from both of the branches, i.e merge+commit+push from trunk, merge+commit+push from po-branch, did not had to do any --overwrite, it merged without conflicts on the po-branch20:23
thekornjames_w, I get a precondition failed error on edge and production too20:26
james_wthekorn: just changing something simple?20:26
thekornjames_w, changing the status of a task20:26
geserwould that explain the current occurances of bug #336866?20:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 336866 in lazr.restful "When adding tag or updating description, lp_save() gives "HTTP Error 412: Precondition Failed"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33686620:27
james_wyeah, that's what I'm doing too20:27
james_wgeser: could well do20:27
james_wso, is it specific to status?20:27
geserI've seen requestsync fail with that error too, and requestsync only sets the importance and status20:29
glenabentley: however the trunk:merge+push and po-branch:merge+push thing helped, no more conflicts when i merge on trunk from po-branch, just now i'm not sure where some translations go or why20:30
abentleyglen, I'm not sure either.  Probably someone from Translations should take a look at the issue, but I don't think any of them are working at the moment.20:33
abentleyglen, so maybe the best thing to do is to ask a Question.20:33
james_wno, title fails as well20:35
glenas the translation seems to be present on launchpad, i edit the lv.po and then next launchpad automatic export should push all translations to the branch, right?20:35
james_wok, it seems that it's changing the etag on every request20:44
james_wcould a losa check if all the appservers are on the same revision please?20:44
Chexjames_w: yes sure, checking20:47
statikhi bac20:54
bachi statik20:54
statikI want to make 3 new teams, ubuntuone-foundations+ ubuntuone-desktop+, and ubuntuone-ops+. launchpad says that the launchpad administrators have blocked the name20:54
bacstatik: for your protection.  don't you feel safer?20:55
statikbac, is it possible to get these made manually and make me admin, or should I choose another name? What I'm doing is splitting ~ubuntuone-hackers into 3 smaller groups for organizing our work20:55
statikbac: every time i go to launchpad I feel safer, it's true :)20:55
bacstatik: form them using non-blacklist names20:56
bacstatik: and then we can get them manually unlisted for you20:56
statikbac: ah, so set up the teams the way I want and then submit a question asking for them to be renamed to the final name I want to use?20:56
bacindeed20:56
Chexstatik: abbreviate the ubuntuone to 'uone' or something, and send in a LP answers requesting the change, we will rename them to the proper name you require20:56
bacthanks chex20:57
statikcool! thanks guys20:57
Chexbac: statik: sure no problem.. just did a couple of those on Friday, so on the tip of my brain, so to speak..20:58
Chexjames_w: all the lpnet app servers are coming back with revno: 894021:00
james_wChex: thanks for checking21:00
Chexjames_w: sure np21:00
james_wleonardr: do you have other suggestions for infrastructure things that could cause this, or should we be talking to the bugs team for implementation things?21:00
leonardrjames_w: there was a similar problem a few months back. i think it had something to do with internal launchpad modification events21:06
leonardrjames_w, i would ask the bugs team if they recently added any events21:10
leonardrjames_w: here is the other bug21:17
leonardrhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/lazr.restful/+bug/33686621:17
ubottuUbuntu bug 336866 in lazr.restful "When adding tag or updating description, lp_save() gives "HTTP Error 412: Precondition Failed"" [High,Confirmed]21:17
leonardrthat also was a problem with launchpad bugs21:17
leonardrit looks like people still have that problem occasionally, so there's probably another bug causing the same problem21:18
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statikhi chex, rename request filed here. I even included links :) thanks for your help21:38
statikhttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/9954321:38
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Some_PersonI want to upload a package to launchpad from a different machine than usual23:30
geseras long as it's signed with your key, it doesn't matter from where you upload23:30
Some_PersonDo I need to make a new GPG key for this machine?23:30
geserno23:31
geserif you trust the other machine, you could copy your gpg key over and sign there23:31
Some_PersonBut the other machine is temporarily unusable23:32
geserother machine == the one with your gpg key?23:32
Some_Personyes23:32
Some_PersonIts power adaptor broke and its battery isn't charged, so I can't use it23:33
geserso you don't have currently any access to your gpg key?23:34
intellectronicaSome_Person: take the HD out?23:34
Some_Personno23:34
Some_Personintellectronica: Won't work23:35
geserso without access to your gpg key is to either wait till you have access again or make a new key23:35
Some_PersonI'll make a new key then23:36
Some_PersonUhmm, I'm using AT&T webmail on this machine, and I can't read the encrypted part of the email23:42

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