[01:59] <keithy> can you create a heirarchical structure of branches?
[02:11] <RAOF> keithy: Yes, by branching in a heirarchical manner.  It's not clear what you actually want to do, though.
[02:12] <keithy> I mean can have launchpad.net/myproject/packages/package1
[02:12] <keithy> I mean can have launchpad.net/myproject/packages/package2
[02:12] <james_w> nope
[02:12] <RAOF> A super-project might be what you're after, though.
[02:13] <keithy> it appears all github's launchpads have a flat structure
[02:13] <keithy> a super project?
[02:13] <RAOF> I think the technical term might be “project group” - https://launchpad.net/bazaar is an example.
[02:14] <RAOF> It's a project with many subprojects - the core, plugins, GUIs, etc.
[02:14] <keithy> the faq says only ask if you really need it
[02:14] <keithy> well we have a potential of 700 loadable packages
[02:14] <RAOF> What is the common thread to them?
[02:15] <RAOF> Is that a core project + lots of plugins?
[02:15] <keithy> they load into squeak image, or our kernel image derived form squeak called cuis
[02:15] <keithy> so ...
[02:15] <keithy> looks like one project for cuis
[02:15] <keithy> and cuis-packages
[02:16] <RAOF> So you're talking about packages, rather than projects?
[02:16] <keithy> well each package is someones project I suppose but they tend to be developed elsewhere
[02:17] <keithy> we are just making the cuis-loadable versions here
[02:17] <RAOF> And the thing that you want to do is to aggregate all these projects in a single, useful place?
[02:17] <keithy> and structure the ordanization
[02:17] <RAOF> It does sound like you might want a distro :)
[02:17] <keithy> for example the webapp seaside has 40 odd  packages in its own right.
[02:18] <RAOF> I'm not sure of the process here.  You might want to describe in detail what you want to do in a mail to the launchpad mailing list; that should get you a better answer.
[02:18] <RAOF> Most of the LP devs are currently asleep in Europe :)
[02:20] <keithy> now theres a good idea
[02:22] <adamplumb> I've submitted a translation template on launchpad for my project on Jan 24, and it is still in the import queue.  What can I do to get this thing imported?
[02:25] <keithy> I can never find the create project ui in laichpad
[02:26] <keithy> ah the front page!
[06:06] <AnAnt> Hello, why don't karmic repos in Launchpad PPA accept 3.0 source formats ?
[06:26] <wgrant> AnAnt: Because Karmic doesn't support v3...
[06:26] <wgrant> Not properly, at least.
[06:26] <wgrant> So we have not enabled it.
[07:02] <AnAnt> ok
[07:29] <keithy> ouch, I selected the focus of development and it renamed by branch, how do I get it back!
[07:30] <wgrant> keithy: It didn't really rename your branch -- it just added an alias.
[07:30] <keithy> sure, but the original isnt visible
[07:30] <keithy> soooo.
[07:30] <wgrant> keithy: lp:~user/project/branch always works. But if a branch is assigned to a project series, lp:project/series works. If that series is the development focus, lp:project works.
[07:31] <keithy> I have 4 repos that are the focus of development simultaneously
[07:32] <keithy> I set this one as an experiment, how do I undo
[07:32] <keithy> since my documentation has already been emailed out
[07:33] <wgrant> Unset it in the same place you set it.
[07:34] <keithy> I set it when I clicked on the "set it now banner"
[07:34] <keithy> which is no longer present
[07:35] <wgrant> keithy: Go to the series page, then find the edit link at the top of the middle column.
[07:37] <keithy> cool... now how to get rid of the banner
[07:38] <wgrant> Set a branch as the development focus. Which is the project?
[07:38] <keithy> Cuis2.0
[07:39] <wgrant> keithy: Wouldn't 'unstable' be the focus of development?
[07:39] <keithy> yes
[07:40] <keithy> but it disappears form the repository list
[07:40] <keithy> and I have already sent out the documentation
[07:40] <wgrant> It won't disappear. It will just be displayed with an alias.
[07:40] <wgrant> All URLs and commands with the old name remain valid.
[07:40] <keithy> and it wont say "unstable" any more
[07:40] <wgrant> It won't, no.
[07:42] <keithy> ok I renamed trunk to unstable
[07:42] <wgrant> Ah, that could work.
[10:01] <tumbleweed> I copied (not rebuilt) some packages from one PPA to another over 24hrs ago, and they are still listed as Pending. Any reason why?
[10:03] <wgrant> tumbleweed: Which PPA?
[10:04] <tumbleweed> wgrant: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ibid-core/+archive/ppa "pysilc - 0.5-1~ppa+8" et. al
[10:04] <tumbleweed> wgrant: all the other packages I copied in that batch copied fine
[10:05] <wgrant> There is something really bad going on here.
[10:05] <tumbleweed> :/
[10:08] <wgrant> tumbleweed: OK, no, nothing going wrong.
[10:09] <wgrant> tumbleweed: You copied a new batch approximately two minutes after you asked in here.
[10:09] <wgrant> The previous ones were already published.
[10:09] <tumbleweed> wgrant: yeah, sorry
[10:10] <wgrant> Oh, there's still a whole unpublished lot.
[10:10] <wgrant> tumbleweed: Not really important, but why did you copy the same version of configobj in again? That had me confused for a couple of minutes.
[10:11] <tumbleweed> wgrant: copied from interpid tI can't build those packages on hardy, but the intrepid debs will work
[10:12] <tumbleweed> wgrant: ok, that batch have published now, but the pysilc one is still pending
[10:12] <tumbleweed> s/one/ones/
[10:12] <wgrant> Yes, that's very odd.
[10:12] <tumbleweed> they do appear in the Packages lists, though
[10:14] <wgrant> tumbleweed: So you rebuild-copy the intrepid source into that PPA, wait for it to build, then copy it to hardy with binaries?
[10:14] <tumbleweed> wgrant: yeah, it's very hacky, but it saves on having to have two rules files
[10:45] <wgrant> tumbleweed: The problem is that a different version of the orig.tar.gz existed in the PPA before. THe copy should never have been permitted.
[10:47] <tumbleweed> wgrant: aha, thanks
[10:48] <tumbleweed> wgrant: yes, it's a .tar.bz2 upstream and has to get repacked
[10:48] <tumbleweed> wgrant: I'll delete and recopy
[10:49] <wgrant> tumbleweed: It's probably best to not do anything just yet.
[10:49] <tumbleweed> wgrant: ok :)
[11:02] <jussi01> Hey all, is there a way to send people messages through the launchpad api?
[11:03] <jussi01> ie. I own a team and I want to send everyone in the team a message through the api.
[11:04] <wgrant> jussi01: There's no API for it, but you can send up to three messages a day through the web UI.
[11:05] <jussi01> wgrant: given what we need to do, thats going to be horrible :(
[11:06] <wgrant> jussi01: You could just PM everyone...
[11:06] <jussi01> wgrant: no thank you. :)
[11:09] <tumbleweed> jussi01: isn't that what team mailing lists are for?
[11:10] <jussi01> tumbleweed: not in this case. its a once off message
[11:12] <napster> How to add a download tarball of my project to lp?
[11:15] <napster> How to add a download tarball of my project to lp?
[11:17] <napster> noodles775, How to add a download tarball of my project to lp?
[11:18] <noodles775> napster: it's not something I've done before, but the help says this: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/FileDownloads
[11:19] <napster> noodles775, ok tnx :)
[11:48] <jussi01> wgrant: is there any way to temporarily evade the 3 msg limit? is there someone I can bug?
[11:50] <wgrant> jussi01: Not without someone running very bad SQL every three messages.
[11:50] <wgrant> jussi01: Alternatively, find n/3 team admins, where n is the number of teams.
[11:50] <jussi01> wgrant: mrgh
[11:56] <napster> noodles775, What is the difference between, "bzr add" and "bzr add ."  ?
[12:33] <detly> hi, I meant to create a PPA for the rabbitvcs team, but mistakenly created it under my own name
[12:33] <detly> is it possible to transfer it, or remove it and start over?
[12:34] <noodles775> detly: you can just create one for the rabbitvcs team right? (if you like, you can delete the packages in your personal one, and/or disable it)
[12:35] <noodles775> But no, transferring isn't an option.
[12:35] <detly> okay
[12:35] <detly> it's empty, so I don't care about anything being lost
[12:35] <detly> how do I disable it?
[12:36] <detly> oh, wait, I see it now
[12:36] <detly> great
[12:36] <noodles775> detly: click on "Change details", there's an option there for enable/disable.
[12:36] <noodles775> Great :)
[12:37] <detly> I can't create a PPA on rabbitvcs, but I think that's because I'm not an owner, so I'll contact him
[12:38] <detly> thanks for the help :)
[12:50] <geser> sinzui: re bug #514824: yes, it's still happening. I've no problem visiting the pages for other source packages. I've also asked in #ubuntu-motu before filing the bug and others had the same problem.
[12:51] <sinzui> geser: It is impossible to make this private. I wonder if something is private on it that break it for you.
[12:51] <sinzui> geser: can you see it logged out?
[12:53] <geser> sinzui: yes, when I logout then I can visit the page
[12:53] <sinzui> geser: when you are logged in, can you see this page: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hypre/+changelog
[12:54] <sinzui> geser: and what of this page: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hypre
[12:55] <geser> sinzui: yes (changelog) and yes (bugs)
[12:55] <geser> branches and answers too, but not overview
[13:02] <geser> sinzui: after trying all possible links on this page, I found the one which I can't visit: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fenics-packages-core/+archive/fenics-ppa/
[13:03] <sinzui> geser: I can see it. It is disabled, but nothing odd about it
[13:03] <sinzui> I will add this to the bug
[14:09] <bac> Hi Launchpad.  I am the help contact for the week, but I cannot currently change the channel topic to show it.  Anyway, please ask me if you have issues or questions about Launchpad.
[14:16] <tsimpson> bac: /msg ChanServ op #launchpad
[14:16] <tsimpson> or /msg ChanServ topic #launchpad your new topic
[14:16] <bac> tsimpson: thanks but i'm not an op
[14:16] <bac> tsimpson: we're working on getting it fixed
[14:17] <tsimpson> you have a launchpad cloak, so you are an op
[14:17] <tsimpson> 3     *!*@canonical/launchpad/* +votiA [modified 1 year, 6 weeks, 2 days, 14:58:14 ago]
[14:17] <tsimpson> so you can request +o from ChanServ
[14:17] <tsimpson> magic ;)
[14:17] <bac> tsimpson: i swear i tried that 30 minutes ago
[14:18] <falktx> hi
[14:18] <falktx> i have a question
[14:18] <bac> hi falktx
[14:18] <falktx> i know I can't package non-free stuff on PPAs
[14:18] <tsimpson> maybe you wern't identified at the time
[14:18] <falktx> so I was thinking about net-installers
[14:19] <falktx> a dummy package that will, in postinst, download and install binaries
[14:19] <falktx> is this okay?
[14:20] <tsimpson> look at how the flashplugin-installer package works, but you should probably have permission from the company to do that
[14:20] <tsimpson> and make sure the user agrees to any EULA stuff
[14:20] <falktx> hmm
[14:21] <tsimpson> I guess #ubuntu-motu would know more about it
[14:21] <bac> falktx: that may be a bit sketchy for a PPA.  i'll ask and find out.
[14:21] <falktx> it is mostly about steinberg VST
[14:21] <falktx> the SDK is "non-free", can be downloaded but not shared
[14:21] <falktx> I wanted to package wineasio and other VST Synths
[14:22] <falktx> look at: http://www.anticore.org/jucetice/?page_id=7
[14:22] <falktx> the site offers downloads
[14:22] <falktx> but they cannot be shared among people
[14:23] <falktx> my idea was a net-installer for all those plugins
[14:35] <falktx> sorry about disconnecting, my net is bad
[14:36] <falktx> so, can I package those plugins ?
[14:36] <tsimpson> falktx: I think bac is still checking for you
[14:36] <bac> falktx: yeah, give me some time and i'll get back to you.
[14:41] <napster> How the PUSH from two developers coordinated in lp?
[14:48] <maxb> napster: Your question is not very clear, could you try to rephrase?
[14:54] <napster> maxb, Suppose two developers are there, how the source code is managed in launchpad? I'm new to lp.
[14:55] <maxb> napster: OK... this seems like more of a general Bazaar usage question, for which you might be better off asking on #bzr directly.
[14:56] <napster> maxb, ok tnx
[14:56] <glen> hehe, bazaar diff-er has tiny bug: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~eventum-developers/eventum/trunk/revision/4035 - "'\\ No newline at end of file'" -- that looks like part of the file, altho it's just result from diff, and why is the backslash escaped? :)
[14:57] <tumbleweed> napster: you have options: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.0/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html
[14:57] <napster> tumbleweed, tnk you :)
[14:57] <glen> in other words diff(1) reports "\ No newline at end of file" like "+ added", "- removed", which looks wrong in there
[15:03] <bac> falktx_: Whether your plan would work in a PPA is a question for a MOTU, perhaps wgrant. From a Launchpad policy perspective I find it a bit unseemly but would need to talk to the Soyuz team lead.
[15:05] <noodles775> falktx_: Either way, you should definitely be in contact with the company to see what *they* would prefer.
[15:13] <napster> I've made a bad request! I've applied bzr branch lp:xxxx from inside the inited local xxxx directory! Now a subfolder named xxxx is inside xxxx. How can I rollback?
[15:14] <mok0> napster: delete the directory and start over?
[15:14] <napster> mok0, yes
[15:14] <napster> xxxx was already initialized!
[15:14] <mok0> napster: It doesn't matter.
[15:15] <mok0> napster: just zap it
[15:15] <napster> And what I actually tried to do was bzr push lp:xxxx, but unfortunatly it was bzr branch lp:xxxx
[15:15] <mok0> napster: I mean, delete xxxx/xxxx
[15:15] <napster> mok0, ok, tnk you... :)
[15:16] <napster> mok0, xxxx/xxxx deleted, do I need "bzr add ."?
[15:17] <mok0> napster: is xxxx a branch?
[15:17] <napster> xxxx is a branch
[15:17] <mok0> napster: try "bzr info"
[15:17] <napster> Stand alone tree 2a
[15:17] <mok0> napster: then "." should already be added
[15:17] <napster> mok0, ?
[15:18] <mok0> "bzr status" sorry
[15:18] <mok0> napster, if you've checked out a branch, and it contains files, there is no reason to "bzr add ."
[15:18] <mok0> napster: if you add a new file to the tree, you should "bzr add" just that one file
[15:19] <napster> mok0, ok got it.
[15:19] <mok0> napster: you can always use brz status to see what's going on
[15:19] <napster> mok0, How can I list all bzr tracked files in my local branch?
[15:20] <mok0> napster: heh. I'm still looking for that one too :-)
[15:21] <mok0> napster: basically, everything that's *not* shown by "bzr status" it knows about
[15:21] <napster> mok0, Yes, bzr status is very helpful... If I got to know listing, I'll update you... tnx a lot mate... :)
[15:21] <mok0> napster: np
[15:22] <napster> mok0, Got it. Its "bzr inventory"... Try it.. :)
[15:23] <mok0> napster: indeed it is! Thanks :-)
[15:23] <napster> mok0, np :)
[15:25] <mok0> napster, there's a program called "bzr explorer" that might be worth looking into
[15:25] <mok0> http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/explorer/en/visual-tour-gnome.html
[15:26] <mok0> napster: if you're a gui-kind-of-person
[15:27] <napster> mok0, Upto an extend, I am. I've tried olive back in last year. This one looks nice though....
[15:27] <napster> mok0, Olive was not this much feature rich : http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/Olive/
[15:28] <mok0> napster: ah, yes, I think I've tried that once
[15:28] <napster> mok0, ok...
[15:28] <mok0> napster: generally, I don't need a gui for bzr
[15:29] <mok0> napster: with git, I like gitk because it gives you a graphical view of how the branches are related. I don't think there's a similar tool for bzr
[15:30] <napster> mok0, I've never used git :(
[15:30] <mok0> napster: In bzr, the branches are generally oblivious of each other, except their parent. In git, all branches exist side-by-side in the same tree
[15:31] <napster> mok0, Much intelligent merging right?
[15:31] <mok0> napster: yes
[15:32] <mok0> git is the king of DVCS'es in my opinion.
[15:32] <napster> mok0, :)
[15:32] <napster> mok0, It should be... Thats why our kernel hosted there...
[15:32] <mok0> bzr is nice in the way that it lets you define the workflow more
[15:32] <napster> ;)
[15:33] <mok0> napster: right, but it is designed around the workflow that Linus likes to use and nothing else
[15:33] <mok0> napster: ... which means it is designed to be strictly distributed
[15:34] <mok0> napster: bzr can function in a "server-client" sort of way too
[15:34] <napster> mok0, ok
[15:35] <mok0> napster: anyway, it is a strength that Ubuntu only has *one* VCS to worry about. In Debian, for example, they use svn, git, arch, bzr, etc.
[15:35] <mok0> napster: which means you have to know them all :-)
[15:35] <mok0> napster: And LP is totally brilliant for code hosting
[15:36] <napster> mok0, I see... Really user friendly too...
[15:36] <mok0> napster: Indeed, although the user interface takes getting used to :-)
[15:37] <napster> mok0, I'm learning it... ;-)
[15:37] <mok0> napster: cool. Then this is a great place to hang out
[15:38] <napster> mok0, Exactly :)
[15:38] <noodles775> mok0: there is the bzr-gtk plugin, (after installing, try bzr visualize)
[15:38] <napster> noodles775, For firefox?
[15:38] <noodles775> gtk
[15:39] <mok0> noodles775: oh yes! I actually had it installed, but I've only used it once...
[15:39] <mok0> napster: no a plugin for bzr
[15:39] <mok0> napster: you can add functions to bzr by installing plugins
[15:40] <mok0> napster: They are in your ~/.bazaar/plugins dir
[15:40] <napster> noodles775, Where I could get that plugin?
[15:41] <mok0> napster: and they're usually hosted on LP, so all you need to do is to go into that dir and brz branch lp:xxxx
[15:41] <mok0> napster: the bzr-gtk plugin I believe you can get via apt-get
[15:42] <noodles775> yep, apt-get install bzr-gtk
[15:42] <napster> mok0, noodles775 OK...
[15:43] <mok0> noodles775: AFAICS bzr-gtk only deals with the current branch
[15:43] <mok0> noodles775: gitk deals with all branches, and display how one derives from another etc.
[15:44] <napster> mok0, But git is purely centralized right?
[15:44] <mok0> napster: yes
[15:44] <mok0> napster: uhm well it depends on what you mean
[15:44] <mok0> napster: git has "stacked branches"
[15:44] <napster> mok0, I mean the workflow... :)
[15:45] <mok0> napster: ah, no git is purely distributed
[15:45] <napster> mok0, ok
[15:45] <mok0> napster: bzr can be used both distributed and centralized
[15:45] <mok0> napster: one reason is that Linux despises the svn workflow
[15:45] <mok0> s/Linux/Linus
[15:46] <napster> ;)
[15:47] <mok0> http://buytaert.net/linus-torvalds-on-git if you have 70 minutes to spare :)
[15:47] <bac> intellectronica: try now
[15:47] <intellectronica> 1 2 3 test
[15:47] <intellectronica> \o/
[15:47] <bac> intellectronica: was it only here?
[15:47] <asabil> mok0, qbzr is able to display all branches
[15:48] <mok0> asabil: ah! I will check it out
[15:48] <tsimpson> bac: unregistered users are still muted here
[15:48] <bac> gah
[15:48] <intellectronica> bac: also #launchpad-dev and #launchpad-reviews
[15:48] <tsimpson> /mode #launchpad -q $~a
[15:48]  * asabil wishes that launchpad could be easily installed on a private server
[15:50] <mok0> asabil: huh? I installed it but it's not working
[15:50] <asabil> mok0, that's the issue
[15:50] <asabil> it is such a pain to deploy
[15:51] <mok0> asabil: oh
[15:51] <mok0> asabil: I need to edit config files?
[15:51] <asabil> yes
[15:52] <mok0> asabil: ah, I thought it was a matter of installing and then do "bzr qbzr"
[15:52] <asabil> mok0, we are not talking about the same thing :)
[15:52] <asabil> for qbzr it is very easy
[15:52] <asabil> install and run bzr qlog
[15:52] <asabil> I was talking about launchpad itself
[15:53] <mok0> asabil: kk :-)
[15:54] <mok0> asabil: why "qlog"? That's completely un-intuitive!
[15:54] <asabil> mok0, well, because it is the same as bzr log
[15:54] <mok0> asabil: very nice tool otherwise. I can see different branches allright
[15:56] <mok0> asabil: no, it's not. If I do bzr log in the same directory, I get and error message
[15:56] <mok0> s/and/an
[15:56] <mok0> asabil: so it's actually more confusing that it's called qlog and not qbzr ;-)
[15:56] <asabil> mok0, I meant to say, it is the visual equivalent to bzr log
[15:57] <mok0> asabil: yeah I can see that. But still
[15:57] <asabil> mok0, well not really, there are other commands like bzr qcommit, bzr qpull ...
[15:58] <mok0> asabil: I am trying it out in a shared repo. Can't remember if I have a "not shared" one to test on
[15:59] <mok0> Hmm, qbzr, very nice indeed. /me is impressed
[16:00] <mok0> ... and it doen't go into full screen mode when you invoke it like brz-gtk :-)
[16:01] <mok0> asabil: will bzr qlog in any way block the repo? Can you background it so it just sits there, updating the status of the repo?
[16:02] <asabil> mok0, I am not sure
[16:03] <asabil> mok0, I think what you want is bzr-explorer
[16:03] <mok0> asabil: Yeah, I will check that out sometime
[16:28] <kiko> mmm
[17:33] <glen> hey, could somebody explain me why the launcpad translation (https://translations.launchpad.net/eventum/trunk/+pots/eventum/lv/714/+translate) does not appear in automatic export (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~glen666/eventum/po/annotate/head:/localization/lv.po#L3271), yes the project is configured to export translations to that branch
[17:37] <glen> perhaps i overwrote it when i bzr merge the po branch from trunk?
[17:59] <maxb> james_w: Hi! Can you tell me what happened to the bzr branches at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/subversion/+branches  ?  They were there, but have gone!
[17:59] <james_w> hi maxb
[18:00] <james_w> I'm not sure I'm afraid
[18:00] <maxb> Oh. I though you'd have been one of the few with permission to delete those :-)
[18:05] <james_w> maxb: yes, it was probably me :-)
[18:05] <james_w> I'm just not sure why I did that
[18:06] <james_w> I think it was a bulk operation I did to clear out some broken branches, but I'm not sure why subversion was included
[18:15] <No`> hi all
[18:16] <No`> quick question about rosetta: If I have a template with "needs review"-marked items, how do I spot them - except by browsing the strings?
[18:17] <henninge> No`: you can click on the number, can't you?
[18:18] <No`> no, I can't. Maybe it's because I'm on edge?
[18:19] <henninge> No`: which template? Please give me the link.
[18:20] <No`> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/pyroom/ - The french one
[18:20] <No`> (and all the others)
[18:22] <No`> sorry, gotta go... I'll try to catch you later
[18:25] <henninge> No`: You will have to drill down to the specific template to get clickable numbers, like so:
[18:25] <henninge> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/pyroom/trunk/+pots/pyroom
[18:42] <dpm> henninge, <glen> hey, could somebody explain me why the launcpad translation (https://translations.launchpad.net/eventum/trunk/+pots/eventum/lv/714/+translate) does not appear in automatic export (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~glen666/eventum/po/annotate/head:/localization/lv.po#L3271), yes the project is configured to export translations to that branch
[18:42] <spwelton> anybody here ever upload to a ppa using ubuntu's "quickly" tool? I can't seem to get it to work
[18:52] <No`> henninge: cheers, it worked. pretty cool!
[18:54] <henninge> glen, dpm: I have no idea tbh. Maybe jtv-eat has a better idea?
[18:54] <henninge> No`: glad I could help
[18:56] <glen> abentley: recall you suggested me to bzr merge in both branches? now imho merge on po-export branch discarded some launchpad translations
[18:56] <glen> relevant chat log: http://pld.pastebin.com/f5b15e71d
[18:59] <abentley> glen, you merged po into trunk, then you merged trunk into po, and Launchpad translations were deleted?
[19:12] <\u03b5> problems submitting bugs? « Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. »
[19:13] <jtv-eat> al-maisan: in line 409, getEstimatedJobStartTime reads builder_stats[platform], where builder_stats comes out of get_builder_data.  Is it absolutely certain that that entry exists in the dict?
[19:13] <jtv> hmm, there's a better channel for this, sorry :)
[19:34] <glen> abentley: seems so, at least the back merge seems had deleted that translation entry i mentioned
[19:35] <glen> abentley: from r3993.1.1 says annotate came empty msgstr
[19:36] <glen> as seems to me the point where merge was made, ie inital lv.po import did not had it translated, but it came translated in latter launchpad push to po-branch
[19:52] <abentley> glen, once you had done the merge from trunk into po, what did you do next?  Did you push --overwrite it into Launchpad?
[20:12] <james_w> has somebody broken lp_save on bugs, or is an appserver out of date?
[20:15] <thekorn> james_w, is it on staging?
[20:15] <james_w> edge
[20:16] <thekorn> I've a lot of problems on staging today
[20:19] <james_w> I'm seeing it on production too
[20:23] <james_w> I can't see where it's getting the etag for the if-match it is sending from
[20:23] <glen> abentley: i just did push from both of the branches, i.e merge+commit+push from trunk, merge+commit+push from po-branch, did not had to do any --overwrite, it merged without conflicts on the po-branch
[20:26] <thekorn> james_w, I get a precondition failed error on edge and production too
[20:26] <james_w> thekorn: just changing something simple?
[20:26] <thekorn> james_w, changing the status of a task
[20:27] <geser> would that explain the current occurances of bug #336866?
[20:27] <james_w> yeah, that's what I'm doing too
[20:27] <james_w> geser: could well do
[20:27] <james_w> so, is it specific to status?
[20:29] <geser> I've seen requestsync fail with that error too, and requestsync only sets the importance and status
[20:30] <glen> abentley: however the trunk:merge+push and po-branch:merge+push thing helped, no more conflicts when i merge on trunk from po-branch, just now i'm not sure where some translations go or why
[20:33] <abentley> glen, I'm not sure either.  Probably someone from Translations should take a look at the issue, but I don't think any of them are working at the moment.
[20:33] <abentley> glen, so maybe the best thing to do is to ask a Question.
[20:35] <james_w> no, title fails as well
[20:35] <glen> as the translation seems to be present on launchpad, i edit the lv.po and then next launchpad automatic export should push all translations to the branch, right?
[20:44] <james_w> ok, it seems that it's changing the etag on every request
[20:44] <james_w> could a losa check if all the appservers are on the same revision please?
[20:47] <Chex> james_w: yes sure, checking
[20:54] <statik> hi bac
[20:54] <bac> hi statik
[20:54] <statik> I want to make 3 new teams, ubuntuone-foundations+ ubuntuone-desktop+, and ubuntuone-ops+. launchpad says that the launchpad administrators have blocked the name
[20:55] <bac> statik: for your protection.  don't you feel safer?
[20:55] <statik> bac, is it possible to get these made manually and make me admin, or should I choose another name? What I'm doing is splitting ~ubuntuone-hackers into 3 smaller groups for organizing our work
[20:55] <statik> bac: every time i go to launchpad I feel safer, it's true :)
[20:56] <bac> statik: form them using non-blacklist names
[20:56] <bac> statik: and then we can get them manually unlisted for you
[20:56] <statik> bac: ah, so set up the teams the way I want and then submit a question asking for them to be renamed to the final name I want to use?
[20:56] <bac> indeed
[20:56] <Chex> statik: abbreviate the ubuntuone to 'uone' or something, and send in a LP answers requesting the change, we will rename them to the proper name you require
[20:57] <bac> thanks chex
[20:57] <statik> cool! thanks guys
[20:58] <Chex> bac: statik: sure no problem.. just did a couple of those on Friday, so on the tip of my brain, so to speak..
[21:00] <Chex> james_w: all the lpnet app servers are coming back with revno: 8940
[21:00] <james_w> Chex: thanks for checking
[21:00] <Chex> james_w: sure np
[21:00] <james_w> leonardr: do you have other suggestions for infrastructure things that could cause this, or should we be talking to the bugs team for implementation things?
[21:06] <leonardr> james_w: there was a similar problem a few months back. i think it had something to do with internal launchpad modification events
[21:10] <leonardr> james_w, i would ask the bugs team if they recently added any events
[21:17] <leonardr> james_w: here is the other bug
[21:17] <leonardr> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/lazr.restful/+bug/336866
[21:17] <leonardr> that also was a problem with launchpad bugs
[21:18] <leonardr> it looks like people still have that problem occasionally, so there's probably another bug causing the same problem
[21:38] <statik> hi chex, rename request filed here. I even included links :) thanks for your help
[21:38] <statik> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/99543
[23:30] <Some_Person> I want to upload a package to launchpad from a different machine than usual
[23:30] <geser> as long as it's signed with your key, it doesn't matter from where you upload
[23:30] <Some_Person> Do I need to make a new GPG key for this machine?
[23:31] <geser> no
[23:31] <geser> if you trust the other machine, you could copy your gpg key over and sign there
[23:32] <Some_Person> But the other machine is temporarily unusable
[23:32] <geser> other machine == the one with your gpg key?
[23:32] <Some_Person> yes
[23:33] <Some_Person> Its power adaptor broke and its battery isn't charged, so I can't use it
[23:34] <geser> so you don't have currently any access to your gpg key?
[23:34] <intellectronica> Some_Person: take the HD out?
[23:34] <Some_Person> no
[23:35] <Some_Person> intellectronica: Won't work
[23:35] <geser> so without access to your gpg key is to either wait till you have access again or make a new key
[23:36] <Some_Person> I'll make a new key then
[23:42] <Some_Person> Uhmm, I'm using AT&T webmail on this machine, and I can't read the encrypted part of the email