[01:59] can you create a heirarchical structure of branches? [02:11] keithy: Yes, by branching in a heirarchical manner. It's not clear what you actually want to do, though. [02:12] I mean can have launchpad.net/myproject/packages/package1 [02:12] I mean can have launchpad.net/myproject/packages/package2 [02:12] nope [02:12] A super-project might be what you're after, though. [02:13] it appears all github's launchpads have a flat structure [02:13] a super project? [02:13] I think the technical term might be “project group” - https://launchpad.net/bazaar is an example. [02:14] It's a project with many subprojects - the core, plugins, GUIs, etc. [02:14] the faq says only ask if you really need it [02:14] well we have a potential of 700 loadable packages [02:14] What is the common thread to them? [02:15] Is that a core project + lots of plugins? [02:15] they load into squeak image, or our kernel image derived form squeak called cuis [02:15] so ... [02:15] looks like one project for cuis [02:15] and cuis-packages [02:16] So you're talking about packages, rather than projects? [02:16] well each package is someones project I suppose but they tend to be developed elsewhere [02:17] we are just making the cuis-loadable versions here [02:17] And the thing that you want to do is to aggregate all these projects in a single, useful place? [02:17] and structure the ordanization [02:17] It does sound like you might want a distro :) [02:17] for example the webapp seaside has 40 odd packages in its own right. [02:18] I'm not sure of the process here. You might want to describe in detail what you want to do in a mail to the launchpad mailing list; that should get you a better answer. [02:18] Most of the LP devs are currently asleep in Europe :) [02:20] now theres a good idea [02:22] I've submitted a translation template on launchpad for my project on Jan 24, and it is still in the import queue. What can I do to get this thing imported? [02:25] I can never find the create project ui in laichpad [02:26] ah the front page! [06:06] Hello, why don't karmic repos in Launchpad PPA accept 3.0 source formats ? [06:26] AnAnt: Because Karmic doesn't support v3... [06:26] Not properly, at least. [06:26] So we have not enabled it. [07:02] ok [07:29] ouch, I selected the focus of development and it renamed by branch, how do I get it back! [07:30] keithy: It didn't really rename your branch -- it just added an alias. [07:30] sure, but the original isnt visible [07:30] soooo. [07:30] keithy: lp:~user/project/branch always works. But if a branch is assigned to a project series, lp:project/series works. If that series is the development focus, lp:project works. [07:31] I have 4 repos that are the focus of development simultaneously [07:32] I set this one as an experiment, how do I undo [07:32] since my documentation has already been emailed out [07:33] Unset it in the same place you set it. [07:34] I set it when I clicked on the "set it now banner" [07:34] which is no longer present [07:35] keithy: Go to the series page, then find the edit link at the top of the middle column. [07:37] cool... now how to get rid of the banner [07:38] Set a branch as the development focus. Which is the project? [07:38] Cuis2.0 [07:39] keithy: Wouldn't 'unstable' be the focus of development? [07:39] yes [07:40] but it disappears form the repository list [07:40] and I have already sent out the documentation [07:40] It won't disappear. It will just be displayed with an alias. [07:40] All URLs and commands with the old name remain valid. [07:40] and it wont say "unstable" any more [07:40] It won't, no. [07:42] ok I renamed trunk to unstable [07:42] Ah, that could work. [10:01] I copied (not rebuilt) some packages from one PPA to another over 24hrs ago, and they are still listed as Pending. Any reason why? [10:03] tumbleweed: Which PPA? [10:04] wgrant: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ibid-core/+archive/ppa "pysilc - 0.5-1~ppa+8" et. al [10:04] wgrant: all the other packages I copied in that batch copied fine [10:05] There is something really bad going on here. [10:05] :/ [10:08] tumbleweed: OK, no, nothing going wrong. [10:09] tumbleweed: You copied a new batch approximately two minutes after you asked in here. [10:09] The previous ones were already published. [10:09] wgrant: yeah, sorry [10:10] Oh, there's still a whole unpublished lot. [10:10] tumbleweed: Not really important, but why did you copy the same version of configobj in again? That had me confused for a couple of minutes. [10:11] wgrant: copied from interpid tI can't build those packages on hardy, but the intrepid debs will work [10:12] wgrant: ok, that batch have published now, but the pysilc one is still pending [10:12] s/one/ones/ [10:12] Yes, that's very odd. [10:12] they do appear in the Packages lists, though [10:14] tumbleweed: So you rebuild-copy the intrepid source into that PPA, wait for it to build, then copy it to hardy with binaries? [10:14] wgrant: yeah, it's very hacky, but it saves on having to have two rules files [10:45] tumbleweed: The problem is that a different version of the orig.tar.gz existed in the PPA before. THe copy should never have been permitted. [10:47] wgrant: aha, thanks [10:48] wgrant: yes, it's a .tar.bz2 upstream and has to get repacked [10:48] wgrant: I'll delete and recopy [10:49] tumbleweed: It's probably best to not do anything just yet. [10:49] wgrant: ok :) [11:02] Hey all, is there a way to send people messages through the launchpad api? [11:03] ie. I own a team and I want to send everyone in the team a message through the api. [11:04] jussi01: There's no API for it, but you can send up to three messages a day through the web UI. [11:05] wgrant: given what we need to do, thats going to be horrible :( [11:06] jussi01: You could just PM everyone... [11:06] wgrant: no thank you. :) [11:09] jussi01: isn't that what team mailing lists are for? [11:10] tumbleweed: not in this case. its a once off message [11:12] How to add a download tarball of my project to lp? [11:15] How to add a download tarball of my project to lp? [11:17] noodles775, How to add a download tarball of my project to lp? [11:18] napster: it's not something I've done before, but the help says this: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/FileDownloads [11:19] noodles775, ok tnx :) [11:48] wgrant: is there any way to temporarily evade the 3 msg limit? is there someone I can bug? [11:50] jussi01: Not without someone running very bad SQL every three messages. [11:50] jussi01: Alternatively, find n/3 team admins, where n is the number of teams. [11:50] wgrant: mrgh [11:56] noodles775, What is the difference between, "bzr add" and "bzr add ." ? [12:33] hi, I meant to create a PPA for the rabbitvcs team, but mistakenly created it under my own name [12:33] is it possible to transfer it, or remove it and start over? [12:34] detly: you can just create one for the rabbitvcs team right? (if you like, you can delete the packages in your personal one, and/or disable it) [12:35] But no, transferring isn't an option. [12:35] okay [12:35] it's empty, so I don't care about anything being lost [12:35] how do I disable it? [12:36] oh, wait, I see it now [12:36] great [12:36] detly: click on "Change details", there's an option there for enable/disable. [12:36] Great :) [12:37] I can't create a PPA on rabbitvcs, but I think that's because I'm not an owner, so I'll contact him [12:38] thanks for the help :) [12:50] sinzui: re bug #514824: yes, it's still happening. I've no problem visiting the pages for other source packages. I've also asked in #ubuntu-motu before filing the bug and others had the same problem. [12:50] Launchpad bug 514824 in launchpad-registry "No permissions to view https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hypre" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514824 [12:51] geser: It is impossible to make this private. I wonder if something is private on it that break it for you. [12:51] geser: can you see it logged out? [12:53] sinzui: yes, when I logout then I can visit the page [12:53] geser: when you are logged in, can you see this page: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hypre/+changelog [12:54] geser: and what of this page: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hypre [12:55] sinzui: yes (changelog) and yes (bugs) [12:55] branches and answers too, but not overview [13:02] sinzui: after trying all possible links on this page, I found the one which I can't visit: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fenics-packages-core/+archive/fenics-ppa/ [13:03] geser: I can see it. It is disabled, but nothing odd about it [13:03] I will add this to the bug === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [14:09] Hi Launchpad. I am the help contact for the week, but I cannot currently change the channel topic to show it. Anyway, please ask me if you have issues or questions about Launchpad. [14:16] bac: /msg ChanServ op #launchpad [14:16] or /msg ChanServ topic #launchpad your new topic [14:16] tsimpson: thanks but i'm not an op [14:16] tsimpson: we're working on getting it fixed [14:17] you have a launchpad cloak, so you are an op [14:17] 3 *!*@canonical/launchpad/* +votiA [modified 1 year, 6 weeks, 2 days, 14:58:14 ago] [14:17] so you can request +o from ChanServ [14:17] magic ;) [14:17] tsimpson: i swear i tried that 30 minutes ago [14:18] hi === bac changed the topic of #launchpad to: http://launchpad.net | Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Recent problems browsing branches should be fixed. | Help contact: bac | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev [14:18] i have a question [14:18] hi falktx [14:18] i know I can't package non-free stuff on PPAs [14:18] maybe you wern't identified at the time [14:18] so I was thinking about net-installers [14:19] a dummy package that will, in postinst, download and install binaries [14:19] is this okay? [14:20] look at how the flashplugin-installer package works, but you should probably have permission from the company to do that [14:20] and make sure the user agrees to any EULA stuff [14:20] hmm [14:21] I guess #ubuntu-motu would know more about it [14:21] falktx: that may be a bit sketchy for a PPA. i'll ask and find out. [14:21] it is mostly about steinberg VST [14:21] the SDK is "non-free", can be downloaded but not shared [14:21] I wanted to package wineasio and other VST Synths [14:22] look at: http://www.anticore.org/jucetice/?page_id=7 [14:22] the site offers downloads [14:22] but they cannot be shared among people [14:23] my idea was a net-installer for all those plugins [14:35] sorry about disconnecting, my net is bad [14:36] so, can I package those plugins ? [14:36] falktx: I think bac is still checking for you [14:36] falktx: yeah, give me some time and i'll get back to you. [14:41] How the PUSH from two developers coordinated in lp? [14:48] napster: Your question is not very clear, could you try to rephrase? [14:54] maxb, Suppose two developers are there, how the source code is managed in launchpad? I'm new to lp. [14:55] napster: OK... this seems like more of a general Bazaar usage question, for which you might be better off asking on #bzr directly. [14:56] maxb, ok tnx [14:56] hehe, bazaar diff-er has tiny bug: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~eventum-developers/eventum/trunk/revision/4035 - "'\\ No newline at end of file'" -- that looks like part of the file, altho it's just result from diff, and why is the backslash escaped? :) [14:57] napster: you have options: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.0/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html [14:57] tumbleweed, tnk you :) [14:57] in other words diff(1) reports "\ No newline at end of file" like "+ added", "- removed", which looks wrong in there === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [15:03] falktx_: Whether your plan would work in a PPA is a question for a MOTU, perhaps wgrant. From a Launchpad policy perspective I find it a bit unseemly but would need to talk to the Soyuz team lead. [15:05] falktx_: Either way, you should definitely be in contact with the company to see what *they* would prefer. [15:13] I've made a bad request! I've applied bzr branch lp:xxxx from inside the inited local xxxx directory! Now a subfolder named xxxx is inside xxxx. How can I rollback? [15:14] napster: delete the directory and start over? [15:14] mok0, yes [15:14] xxxx was already initialized! [15:14] napster: It doesn't matter. [15:15] napster: just zap it [15:15] And what I actually tried to do was bzr push lp:xxxx, but unfortunatly it was bzr branch lp:xxxx [15:15] napster: I mean, delete xxxx/xxxx [15:15] mok0, ok, tnk you... :) [15:16] mok0, xxxx/xxxx deleted, do I need "bzr add ."? [15:17] napster: is xxxx a branch? [15:17] xxxx is a branch [15:17] napster: try "bzr info" [15:17] Stand alone tree 2a [15:17] napster: then "." should already be added [15:17] mok0, ? [15:18] "bzr status" sorry [15:18] napster, if you've checked out a branch, and it contains files, there is no reason to "bzr add ." [15:18] napster: if you add a new file to the tree, you should "bzr add" just that one file [15:19] mok0, ok got it. [15:19] napster: you can always use brz status to see what's going on [15:19] mok0, How can I list all bzr tracked files in my local branch? [15:20] napster: heh. I'm still looking for that one too :-) [15:21] napster: basically, everything that's *not* shown by "bzr status" it knows about [15:21] mok0, Yes, bzr status is very helpful... If I got to know listing, I'll update you... tnx a lot mate... :) [15:21] napster: np [15:22] mok0, Got it. Its "bzr inventory"... Try it.. :) [15:23] napster: indeed it is! Thanks :-) [15:23] mok0, np :) [15:25] napster, there's a program called "bzr explorer" that might be worth looking into [15:25] http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/explorer/en/visual-tour-gnome.html [15:26] napster: if you're a gui-kind-of-person [15:27] mok0, Upto an extend, I am. I've tried olive back in last year. This one looks nice though.... [15:27] mok0, Olive was not this much feature rich : http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/Olive/ [15:28] napster: ah, yes, I think I've tried that once [15:28] mok0, ok... [15:28] napster: generally, I don't need a gui for bzr [15:29] napster: with git, I like gitk because it gives you a graphical view of how the branches are related. I don't think there's a similar tool for bzr [15:30] mok0, I've never used git :( [15:30] napster: In bzr, the branches are generally oblivious of each other, except their parent. In git, all branches exist side-by-side in the same tree [15:31] mok0, Much intelligent merging right? [15:31] napster: yes [15:32] git is the king of DVCS'es in my opinion. [15:32] mok0, :) === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [15:32] mok0, It should be... Thats why our kernel hosted there... [15:32] bzr is nice in the way that it lets you define the workflow more [15:32] ;) [15:33] napster: right, but it is designed around the workflow that Linus likes to use and nothing else [15:33] napster: ... which means it is designed to be strictly distributed [15:34] napster: bzr can function in a "server-client" sort of way too [15:34] mok0, ok [15:35] napster: anyway, it is a strength that Ubuntu only has *one* VCS to worry about. In Debian, for example, they use svn, git, arch, bzr, etc. [15:35] napster: which means you have to know them all :-) [15:35] napster: And LP is totally brilliant for code hosting [15:36] mok0, I see... Really user friendly too... [15:36] napster: Indeed, although the user interface takes getting used to :-) [15:37] mok0, I'm learning it... ;-) [15:37] napster: cool. Then this is a great place to hang out [15:38] mok0, Exactly :) [15:38] mok0: there is the bzr-gtk plugin, (after installing, try bzr visualize) [15:38] noodles775, For firefox? [15:38] gtk [15:39] noodles775: oh yes! I actually had it installed, but I've only used it once... [15:39] napster: no a plugin for bzr [15:39] napster: you can add functions to bzr by installing plugins [15:40] napster: They are in your ~/.bazaar/plugins dir [15:40] noodles775, Where I could get that plugin? [15:41] napster: and they're usually hosted on LP, so all you need to do is to go into that dir and brz branch lp:xxxx [15:41] napster: the bzr-gtk plugin I believe you can get via apt-get [15:42] yep, apt-get install bzr-gtk [15:42] mok0, noodles775 OK... [15:43] noodles775: AFAICS bzr-gtk only deals with the current branch [15:43] noodles775: gitk deals with all branches, and display how one derives from another etc. [15:44] mok0, But git is purely centralized right? [15:44] napster: yes [15:44] napster: uhm well it depends on what you mean [15:44] napster: git has "stacked branches" [15:44] mok0, I mean the workflow... :) [15:45] napster: ah, no git is purely distributed [15:45] mok0, ok [15:45] napster: bzr can be used both distributed and centralized [15:45] napster: one reason is that Linux despises the svn workflow [15:45] s/Linux/Linus [15:46] ;) [15:47] http://buytaert.net/linus-torvalds-on-git if you have 70 minutes to spare :) [15:47] intellectronica: try now [15:47] 1 2 3 test [15:47] \o/ [15:47] intellectronica: was it only here? [15:47] mok0, qbzr is able to display all branches [15:48] asabil: ah! I will check it out [15:48] bac: unregistered users are still muted here [15:48] gah [15:48] bac: also #launchpad-dev and #launchpad-reviews [15:48] /mode #launchpad -q $~a [15:48] * asabil wishes that launchpad could be easily installed on a private server [15:50] asabil: huh? I installed it but it's not working [15:50] mok0, that's the issue [15:50] it is such a pain to deploy [15:51] asabil: oh [15:51] asabil: I need to edit config files? [15:51] yes [15:52] asabil: ah, I thought it was a matter of installing and then do "bzr qbzr" [15:52] mok0, we are not talking about the same thing :) [15:52] for qbzr it is very easy [15:52] install and run bzr qlog [15:52] I was talking about launchpad itself [15:53] asabil: kk :-) [15:54] asabil: why "qlog"? That's completely un-intuitive! [15:54] mok0, well, because it is the same as bzr log [15:54] asabil: very nice tool otherwise. I can see different branches allright [15:56] asabil: no, it's not. If I do bzr log in the same directory, I get and error message [15:56] s/and/an [15:56] asabil: so it's actually more confusing that it's called qlog and not qbzr ;-) [15:56] mok0, I meant to say, it is the visual equivalent to bzr log [15:57] asabil: yeah I can see that. But still [15:57] mok0, well not really, there are other commands like bzr qcommit, bzr qpull ... [15:58] asabil: I am trying it out in a shared repo. Can't remember if I have a "not shared" one to test on [15:59] Hmm, qbzr, very nice indeed. /me is impressed [16:00] ... and it doen't go into full screen mode when you invoke it like brz-gtk :-) [16:01] asabil: will bzr qlog in any way block the repo? Can you background it so it just sits there, updating the status of the repo? [16:02] mok0, I am not sure [16:03] mok0, I think what you want is bzr-explorer [16:03] asabil: Yeah, I will check that out sometime === Joey is now known as Guest83189 === Guest83189 is now known as Rinchen === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [16:28] mmm === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === jamalta is now known as jamalta-afk === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta [17:33] hey, could somebody explain me why the launcpad translation (https://translations.launchpad.net/eventum/trunk/+pots/eventum/lv/714/+translate) does not appear in automatic export (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~glen666/eventum/po/annotate/head:/localization/lv.po#L3271), yes the project is configured to export translations to that branch [17:37] perhaps i overwrote it when i bzr merge the po branch from trunk? === jtv is now known as jtv-eat [17:59] james_w: Hi! Can you tell me what happened to the bzr branches at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/subversion/+branches ? They were there, but have gone! [17:59] hi maxb [18:00] I'm not sure I'm afraid [18:00] Oh. I though you'd have been one of the few with permission to delete those :-) [18:05] maxb: yes, it was probably me :-) [18:05] I'm just not sure why I did that [18:06] I think it was a bulk operation I did to clear out some broken branches, but I'm not sure why subversion was included [18:15] hi all [18:16] quick question about rosetta: If I have a template with "needs review"-marked items, how do I spot them - except by browsing the strings? [18:17] No`: you can click on the number, can't you? [18:18] no, I can't. Maybe it's because I'm on edge? [18:19] No`: which template? Please give me the link. [18:20] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/pyroom/ - The french one [18:20] (and all the others) [18:22] sorry, gotta go... I'll try to catch you later [18:25] No`: You will have to drill down to the specific template to get clickable numbers, like so: [18:25] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/pyroom/trunk/+pots/pyroom [18:42] henninge, hey, could somebody explain me why the launcpad translation (https://translations.launchpad.net/eventum/trunk/+pots/eventum/lv/714/+translate) does not appear in automatic export (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~glen666/eventum/po/annotate/head:/localization/lv.po#L3271), yes the project is configured to export translations to that branch [18:42] anybody here ever upload to a ppa using ubuntu's "quickly" tool? I can't seem to get it to work [18:52] henninge: cheers, it worked. pretty cool! [18:54] glen, dpm: I have no idea tbh. Maybe jtv-eat has a better idea? [18:54] No`: glad I could help [18:56] abentley: recall you suggested me to bzr merge in both branches? now imho merge on po-export branch discarded some launchpad translations [18:56] relevant chat log: http://pld.pastebin.com/f5b15e71d [18:59] glen, you merged po into trunk, then you merged trunk into po, and Launchpad translations were deleted? === EdwinGrubbs is now known as Edwin-lunch [19:12] <\u03b5> problems submitting bugs? « Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. » [19:13] al-maisan: in line 409, getEstimatedJobStartTime reads builder_stats[platform], where builder_stats comes out of get_builder_data. Is it absolutely certain that that entry exists in the dict? === jtv-eat is now known as jtv [19:13] hmm, there's a better channel for this, sorry :) [19:34] abentley: seems so, at least the back merge seems had deleted that translation entry i mentioned [19:35] abentley: from r3993.1.1 says annotate came empty msgstr [19:36] as seems to me the point where merge was made, ie inital lv.po import did not had it translated, but it came translated in latter launchpad push to po-branch [19:52] glen, once you had done the merge from trunk into po, what did you do next? Did you push --overwrite it into Launchpad? === Edwin-lunch is now known as EdwinGrubbs === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [20:12] has somebody broken lp_save on bugs, or is an appserver out of date? === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [20:15] james_w, is it on staging? [20:15] edge [20:16] I've a lot of problems on staging today [20:19] I'm seeing it on production too [20:23] I can't see where it's getting the etag for the if-match it is sending from [20:23] abentley: i just did push from both of the branches, i.e merge+commit+push from trunk, merge+commit+push from po-branch, did not had to do any --overwrite, it merged without conflicts on the po-branch [20:26] james_w, I get a precondition failed error on edge and production too [20:26] thekorn: just changing something simple? [20:26] james_w, changing the status of a task [20:27] would that explain the current occurances of bug #336866? [20:27] Launchpad bug 336866 in lazr.restful "When adding tag or updating description, lp_save() gives "HTTP Error 412: Precondition Failed"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336866 [20:27] yeah, that's what I'm doing too [20:27] geser: could well do [20:27] so, is it specific to status? [20:29] I've seen requestsync fail with that error too, and requestsync only sets the importance and status [20:30] abentley: however the trunk:merge+push and po-branch:merge+push thing helped, no more conflicts when i merge on trunk from po-branch, just now i'm not sure where some translations go or why [20:33] glen, I'm not sure either. Probably someone from Translations should take a look at the issue, but I don't think any of them are working at the moment. [20:33] glen, so maybe the best thing to do is to ask a Question. [20:35] no, title fails as well [20:35] as the translation seems to be present on launchpad, i edit the lv.po and then next launchpad automatic export should push all translations to the branch, right? [20:44] ok, it seems that it's changing the etag on every request [20:44] could a losa check if all the appservers are on the same revision please? [20:47] james_w: yes sure, checking [20:54] hi bac [20:54] hi statik [20:54] I want to make 3 new teams, ubuntuone-foundations+ ubuntuone-desktop+, and ubuntuone-ops+. launchpad says that the launchpad administrators have blocked the name [20:55] statik: for your protection. don't you feel safer? [20:55] bac, is it possible to get these made manually and make me admin, or should I choose another name? What I'm doing is splitting ~ubuntuone-hackers into 3 smaller groups for organizing our work [20:55] bac: every time i go to launchpad I feel safer, it's true :) [20:56] statik: form them using non-blacklist names [20:56] statik: and then we can get them manually unlisted for you [20:56] bac: ah, so set up the teams the way I want and then submit a question asking for them to be renamed to the final name I want to use? [20:56] indeed [20:56] statik: abbreviate the ubuntuone to 'uone' or something, and send in a LP answers requesting the change, we will rename them to the proper name you require [20:57] thanks chex [20:57] cool! thanks guys [20:58] bac: statik: sure no problem.. just did a couple of those on Friday, so on the tip of my brain, so to speak.. [21:00] james_w: all the lpnet app servers are coming back with revno: 8940 [21:00] Chex: thanks for checking [21:00] james_w: sure np [21:00] leonardr: do you have other suggestions for infrastructure things that could cause this, or should we be talking to the bugs team for implementation things? [21:06] james_w: there was a similar problem a few months back. i think it had something to do with internal launchpad modification events [21:10] james_w, i would ask the bugs team if they recently added any events [21:17] james_w: here is the other bug [21:17] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/lazr.restful/+bug/336866 [21:17] Ubuntu bug 336866 in lazr.restful "When adding tag or updating description, lp_save() gives "HTTP Error 412: Precondition Failed"" [High,Confirmed] [21:17] that also was a problem with launchpad bugs [21:18] it looks like people still have that problem occasionally, so there's probably another bug causing the same problem === sale_ is now known as sale === huayra_ is now known as hubuntu === hubuntu is now known as huayra [21:38] hi chex, rename request filed here. I even included links :) thanks for your help [21:38] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/99543 === sale_ is now known as sale === jamalta is now known as jamalta-afk [23:30] I want to upload a package to launchpad from a different machine than usual [23:30] as long as it's signed with your key, it doesn't matter from where you upload [23:30] Do I need to make a new GPG key for this machine? [23:31] no [23:31] if you trust the other machine, you could copy your gpg key over and sign there [23:32] But the other machine is temporarily unusable [23:32] other machine == the one with your gpg key? [23:32] yes [23:33] Its power adaptor broke and its battery isn't charged, so I can't use it [23:34] so you don't have currently any access to your gpg key? [23:34] Some_Person: take the HD out? [23:34] no [23:35] intellectronica: Won't work [23:35] so without access to your gpg key is to either wait till you have access again or make a new key [23:36] I'll make a new key then [23:42] Uhmm, I'm using AT&T webmail on this machine, and I can't read the encrypted part of the email