baptistemm | hello | 07:45 |
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baptistemm | good morning | 07:45 |
TeTeT | asac: hi, i'm doing some research on bug 509738. Is there a bazaar repo or alike for the modemmanager builds? I consider to do a bisection to detect what causes the problem with the 3G card | 12:25 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 509738 in network-manager "ModemManager from PPA not working in Lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/509738 | 12:25 |
Nafai | Hi all; reporting for duty! :) | 13:50 |
didrocks | hey Nafai ;) | 14:09 |
didrocks | Nafai: are you in Portland? | 14:09 |
Nafai | I wish. | 14:09 |
Nafai | At home in Utah | 14:09 |
didrocks | oh ok :) | 14:10 |
Nafai | Today is the first day of my control though. :) | 14:10 |
Nafai | s/control/contract/ | 14:10 |
didrocks | Nafai: :) | 14:13 |
didrocks | Nafai: I guess dx team guys will ping you | 14:13 |
Nafai | I figured as much | 14:13 |
chrisccoulson | hey didrocks | 14:15 |
didrocks | hey chrisccoulson, you are you? :) | 14:15 |
chrisccoulson | i'm good thanks. are you in portland this week? | 14:15 |
didrocks | right :) | 14:17 |
Nafai | I have a doctor appointment, I'll be back in a couple hours | 14:25 |
TeTeT | asac: found it on Launchpad | 15:20 |
Nafai | Back | 16:40 |
Nafai | Hey rickspencer3 :) | 16:41 |
rickspencer3 | Hi Nafai | 16:42 |
pitti | hi | 17:22 |
pitti | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 17:25 |
chrisccoulson | hey pitti, i'm good thanks | 17:25 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: thanks for pointing out the gconf breakage, sorry for that | 17:25 |
chrisccoulson | how are you? | 17:25 |
pitti | I'm great, I slept suspiciously well :) | 17:26 |
chrisccoulson | i was going to fix gconf, but i can't upload it :( | 17:26 |
chrisccoulson | did you have a good day today? | 17:26 |
pitti | it only just started | 17:26 |
pitti | -9 hours | 17:26 |
chrisccoulson | ah, i didn't realise you were that many hours behind ;) | 17:27 |
pitti | we are in Portland, OR now | 17:27 |
pedro_ | seb128, I've updated the hook on bug 418156; May you have a look into it later? | 18:41 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 418156 in yelp "Yelp Apport Hook" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418156 | 18:41 |
baptistemm | hello | 18:42 |
chrisccoulson | hey baptistemm | 18:43 |
seb128 | pedro_, ok | 18:45 |
pedro_ | seb128, thank you | 18:46 |
baptistemm | heya chrisccoulson | 18:46 |
baptistemm | hello seb128 | 18:46 |
baptistemm | http://bmm80.free.fr/public/oak-lucid-20100131-4.png <-- ultra fast boot :) | 18:51 |
baptistemm | I should enable autlogin to win 1 sec or 2 | 18:52 |
chrisccoulson | baptistemm - yeah, i was just about to suggest trying with autologin | 18:52 |
chrisccoulson | baptistemm - also, it seems you need to profile ureadahead too | 18:53 |
baptistemm | ah | 18:53 |
dpm | hey pitti, I forgot to mention it when you where here - ArneGoetje tells me it is not possible to build PPAs in the new server due to a missing LP credentials file. Do you think you could copy it over? ArneGoetje knows the details | 18:54 |
seb128 | baptistemm, quite impressive | 18:55 |
pitti | dpm, ArneGoetje: it should give you an URL to open, where you can ack the authorization, and then press enter | 18:56 |
baptistemm | seb128, isn't it? :) | 18:57 |
ccheney | yipee it appears someone reverted the breakage to gweather :) | 18:58 |
* ccheney just noticed it when adding locations to his clock | 18:58 | |
dpm | thanks pitti, ArneGoetje, will that solve the problem you were telling me about and then the PPA langpacks be built again? | 18:58 |
baptistemm | the HD bandwidth is impressive, it goes to 150 MB/s | 18:58 |
baptistemm | "up to" | 18:59 |
ccheney | baptistemm: what kind of ssd? | 19:02 |
* ccheney thinks his system boots in ~ 17s but hasn't run the program to verify it | 19:02 | |
ccheney | i have a regular hd though | 19:02 |
baptistemm | ccheney, intel X25-m | 19:13 |
baptistemm | why evolution 2.29 won't be packaged for lucid? | 19:19 |
seb128 | baptistemm, because lucid is a lts | 19:20 |
seb128 | baptistemm, and getting a rewrite in a lts is not good | 19:20 |
baptistemm | a rewrite? | 19:20 |
seb128 | did you look at how much code changed? | 19:22 |
seb128 | rewritting all the bonobo code to use dbus instead... | 19:22 |
seb128 | and bonoboui to gtk | 19:22 |
baptistemm | not at all, I don't know anything about changes in evo in 2.29 | 19:22 |
baptistemm | ah okay | 19:23 |
baptistemm | I'm little beyond anython currently in GNOME world | 19:23 |
ccheney | baptistemm: ah | 19:24 |
ccheney | seb128: ah so they are getting evolution ready for gnome 3.0 :) | 19:24 |
seb128 | yes | 19:24 |
baptistemm | ccheney, that's a terrific model :) | 19:30 |
ccheney | i have a seagate 7200.4 500gb drive in my laptop, pretty fast but no ssd, heh | 19:31 |
ccheney | ~ 100MB/s under hdparm but has seek time as its a hd | 19:32 |
Sarvatt | shoot, got booted when I asked a question it looks like -- <Sarvatt> is gdm's :0.log supposed to contain what ~/.xsession-errors contains? the ~/.xsession-errors output seems like it should be whats in :0.log instead of the Xorg.x.log and xserver's stderr output thats in it now? | 19:45 |
cyphermox | Riddell, asac told me there is something you want fixed in the packaging for the vpn plugins? | 19:53 |
Riddell | cyphermox: I'd like to split out the gnome bits | 19:58 |
Riddell | cyphermox: they're currently brining gnome stuff onto the kubuntu CD and we don't have the space for that | 19:58 |
Riddell | it's also how suse does it so I don't think it would be a problem | 19:58 |
cyphermox | Riddell, sure. I think I saw a bug about that too | 19:58 |
bryce2 | pitti, btw Terri and I are going out to the Widmer Pub for dinner prior to karaoke; interested in joining us? | 20:05 |
pitti | bryce2: I'd love to | 20:07 |
bryce2 | ok, we'll be meeting up in the hotel lobby at 6:30 | 20:08 |
Riddell | cyphermox: how's this look? http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/vpnc.diff | 20:19 |
cyphermox | Riddell, looks good. It's pretty much exactly what I was going to do. I plan on working on this more later tonight though :) | 20:26 |
Riddell | cyphermox: ok I'll commit to bzr and let you make any other changes you want and upload this evening | 20:36 |
Riddell | cyphermox: I'll do the same for pptp and openvpn for completeness | 20:37 |
cyphermox | Riddell, there is a slight issue with that | 20:37 |
Riddell | cyphermox: what's that? | 20:38 |
cyphermox | Riddell, do you mean that you'll upload? | 20:38 |
cyphermox | also, there is also the network-manager-openconnect plugin you may be interested in | 20:38 |
Riddell | cyphermox: I can upload if you want me to | 20:39 |
cyphermox | Riddell, that might be wise, as I don't have any upload permissions ;) | 20:40 |
Riddell | cyphermox: but you want to make more changes this evening first? | 20:40 |
cyphermox | Riddell, no. from what asac had told me, I thought I was going to do the splitting of these packages | 20:41 |
Riddell | cyphermox: I'm an impatient sort :) | 20:42 |
Riddell | I'll upload shortly then | 20:42 |
cyphermox | Riddell, that's fine. from the diff I saw it looks perfect | 20:42 |
cyphermox | the only thing is how current users will install the plugins in the future: it will mean they will have to specifically install network-manager-vpnc-gnome, not just network-manager-vpnc | 20:43 |
Riddell | cyphermox: well how do they know what to install currently? asac mentioned getting them onto the CD which seems sensible | 20:45 |
cyphermox | right know, I guess they look it up in synaptic. | 20:46 |
Riddell | cyphermox: oh and that diff wasn't perfect, the auth dialog needed moved to -gnome and DESTDIR unset in debian/rules :) | 20:46 |
cyphermox | Riddell, hard to say without looking at the full thing :) | 20:47 |
cyphermox | Riddell, what I mean is, some could still try to install network-manager-vpnc and wonder why there is still no plugin available | 20:48 |
Riddell | new installs I expect people to search and find the right package, upgrades are an issue, maybe a hook should be added to the dist upgrade tool | 20:49 |
pitti | Riddell: bzr bd-do | 21:04 |
robert_ancell | seb128, pitti, hey | 21:54 |
seb128 | hello robert_ancell | 21:54 |
seb128 | how are you? | 21:54 |
pitti | hey robert_ancell, how are you? | 21:55 |
robert_ancell | good, how is the sprint going? | 21:55 |
pitti | quite fine so far | 21:55 |
seb128 | just starting a few hours ago but good so far | 21:55 |
robert_ancell | any big plans? | 21:55 |
didrocks | hey robert_ancell :) | 21:55 |
robert_ancell | didrocks, hey | 21:55 |
pitti | boot speed, and some stragglers | 21:55 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, out of booting in 10 seconds? | 21:55 |
robert_ancell | well, you'll have that done by the end of today right? ;) | 21:56 |
seb128 | I was on my road to that | 21:56 |
seb128 | and the mini decided to break | 21:56 |
robert_ancell | ug | 21:56 |
seb128 | I still have my laptop though | 21:56 |
seb128 | but no reference platform for testing anymore | 21:56 |
robert_ancell | damn | 21:56 |
robert_ancell | I'm currently battling plymouth+upstart. Both seem hard to debug | 21:57 |
seb128 | it froze and since beep an error code on power on | 21:57 |
seb128 | oh? | 21:57 |
robert_ancell | no spare ones there? Have one shipped over | 21:57 |
seb128 | what issue do you have with it | 21:57 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, rick asked one for me, not sure when that will arrive though | 21:58 |
robert_ancell | Is there a good log you can get from upstart after boot showing what events occurred, and what scripts were run (and the results of the scripts) | 21:58 |
seb128 | shame it broke at the start of the sprint; but I can work on my laptop and enough people have some of those to do testing | 21:58 |
robert_ancell | It feels a bit like dpkg in that a script can fail but the best debug you get is an error code | 21:58 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, I've no clue about upstart but I guess you can try asking Keybuk... | 21:59 |
robert_ancell | yes | 21:59 |
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seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey | 22:00 |
chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 22:00 |
chrisccoulson | how are you? | 22:00 |
seb128 | good! | 22:01 |
seb128 | you? | 22:01 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, not bad thanks | 22:01 |
chrisccoulson | how was your travelling at the weekend? | 22:01 |
seb128 | uneventfull which I guess is good ;-) | 22:01 |
seb128 | weather was ok on the road to the aiport, I had plenty of time for changing plane and we got almost no delay | 22:02 |
seb128 | spending 10 hours in a plane is no fun but otherwise it was ok | 22:02 |
robert_ancell | Keybuk, any upstart debugging hints? | 22:03 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i don't particularly enjoy long flights ;) | 22:05 |
chrisccoulson | especially when driving on arrival at the destination | 22:05 |
seb128 | no driving required there at least ;-) | 22:06 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh, boot question, did you work on those gnome-session delay change? | 22:07 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - the autostart delay stuff? | 22:07 |
seb128 | yes | 22:07 |
chrisccoulson | i wrote a patch which works, but vuntz had some review comments on it | 22:07 |
chrisccoulson | i've not addressed all of those comments yet though | 22:07 |
seb128 | can we get the change in lucid? | 22:07 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i think so | 22:08 |
seb128 | ok, nice | 22:08 |
seb128 | do you want to do the package update? | 22:08 |
seb128 | or should I do it | 22:08 |
seb128 | that would clean a bit our charts | 22:08 |
seb128 | ie make those easier to read | 22:08 |
seb128 | so I would like to get it in today | 22:08 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - i can push the changes in to bzr, but i can't upload it | 22:08 |
seb128 | I can sponsor it no problem | 22:08 |
chrisccoulson | cool, i'll work on that in a second | 22:09 |
seb128 | thanks! | 22:09 |
chrisccoulson | my machine has ground to a halt now - i've just turned tracker on! | 22:09 |
seb128 | yeah, io load is not handled fine under linux | 22:10 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, it definately doesn't like it very much | 22:10 |
seb128 | is that 0.7? | 22:12 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i'm running 0.7.18. i've got packages here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~tracker-team | 22:13 |
seb128 | nice | 22:14 |
seb128 | Laney, do you have a clue about bug #515306? | 22:28 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 515306 in tomboy "New dep on libnunit2.4-cil pulls 10Mb of dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/515306 | 22:28 |
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Laney | seb128: yes, you have to patch out the tests | 22:29 |
Laney | or add a build-conflicts | 22:29 |
seb128 | are the tests installed in the binary | 22:29 |
Laney | I guess so, as the dep comes from dh_clideps | 22:30 |
Laney | but they were never enabled before, and only happen now because mono-devel pulls in everything | 22:30 |
Laney | I might add a configure flag in future | 22:33 |
asac | pitti: whats the gnome bug number for the mm stuff? | 22:35 |
Nafai | Hey djsiegel | 22:37 |
seb128 | kenvandine, hum, seems you didn't commit your tomboy changes to bzr which made me revert those | 22:39 |
seb128 | kenvandine, I'm fixing that now | 22:39 |
seb128 | Laney, do you plan to keep the depends in debian? | 22:39 |
Laney | seb128: we already patched it | 22:40 |
seb128 | Laney, ok thanks | 22:40 |
seb128 | looking to what you did there | 22:40 |
Laney | this was one of the changes I wanted you to take :) | 22:40 |
seb128 | is there any other one? | 22:40 |
seb128 | we can't sync since we are on a newer serie | 22:40 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: This week I do have time to do some a11y webkit testing. What do you want tested, given that webkit was updated in lucid only last week. | 22:41 |
Laney | seb128: the gmime2.4 switch, removing the requires from tomboy-addins and the build-dep cleanups | 22:42 |
seb128 | ok thanks | 22:42 |
Laney | dunno which you alreayd have | 22:42 |
seb128 | I will have a look now | 22:42 |
TheMuso | ;/c | 22:43 |
Laney | tomboy-addins.pc.in, that is | 22:43 |
kenvandine | seb128, i didn't? | 22:44 |
seb128 | kenvandine, apparently not | 22:44 |
kenvandine | seb128, oh i pushed a new version of xchat-indicator | 22:44 |
kenvandine | think you can look at it and upload again? | 22:44 |
seb128 | sure | 22:45 |
kenvandine | thx | 22:46 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: I'd like you to test webkit themes in empathy (kenvandine) | 22:53 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: What themes use webkit? | 22:55 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: all of them | 22:55 |
djsiegel | we have a guy working on one based on Renkoo | 22:55 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: ok I'll test them out. | 22:56 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: I have a bug for you | 22:56 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/392488 | 22:56 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 392488 in hundredpapercuts "Empathy could use an Ubuntu-specific Adium theme" [Low,Triaged] | 22:56 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: ok | 22:58 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - you've experienced the missing menus from the session indicator haven't you? | 23:01 |
chrisccoulson | do you know what causes it yet? | 23:01 |
seb128 | not really | 23:01 |
seb128 | it's due to the services not being running | 23:01 |
seb128 | the bootchart show that sometime they start and exit after less than a second | 23:02 |
seb128 | but there is nothing in the log | 23:02 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - i experience it quite regularly, but the services are all running here | 23:02 |
seb128 | and no apport crash report | 23:02 |
seb128 | which menus are missing? | 23:02 |
chrisccoulson | i just logged out of my session, and it left some stale indicator-* processes | 23:02 |
chrisccoulson | when i logged in, both menus aren't displayed, but the processes from my previous session are still running | 23:02 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: Well I enabled the blue theme, and if that uses webkit, then nothing gets read, i.e my conversation text is not spoken. | 23:04 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: Sorry, the conversation text is spoken, but not the title which displays the user's nick. | 23:05 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: ok | 23:06 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: that sounds fixable | 23:07 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, interesting, I think it's a different issue | 23:08 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, try talking to ted about it maybe | 23:08 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, that might be a coincidence | 23:08 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - i've pushed gnome-session to bzr now | 23:09 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, I was just looking at right now, good timing | 23:09 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: The renku theme does not read at all. All I get is "section" whenever I review the window. | 23:15 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: ok, so, how do we fix it? | 23:15 |
djsiegel | there must be some way to enable reading in the theme | 23:15 |
djsiegel | e.g. use the proper html elements | 23:15 |
djsiegel | or add attributes | 23:15 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: If its using webkit, then I'd say we can't do anything atm. | 23:15 |
TheMuso | My guess is that not enough webkt a11y is enabled to even read text. | 23:16 |
djsiegel | hmm | 23:16 |
TheMuso | Does empathy use gconf? If so, I will set the theme for empathy to classic for accessibility installs. | 23:16 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: I am sure it does. | 23:16 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: that sounds like an excellent approach | 23:16 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: Ok thanks. | 23:16 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: we have the Renkoo theme ready to use with Empathy but we are just waiting to make sure we don't damage experience for users requiring a11y | 23:17 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: if you make the change of theme for accessibility installs, then kenvandine can package and enable the renkoo theme for other installs | 23:17 |
djsiegel | kenvandine: ^ !!! | 23:17 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: Yep, I can do that. | 23:18 |
TheMuso | I think thats the best approach atm. | 23:18 |
djsiegel | TheMuso: awesome | 23:18 |
djsiegel | yes | 23:18 |
TheMuso | tedg: is it known that the indicator applet icon is not accessible in the panel hirarchy with keybard commands? | 23:19 |
TheMuso | gah typing | 23:19 |
TheMuso | hyrarchy even | 23:19 |
tedg | TheMuso: Yes. | 23:19 |
tedg | TheMuso: We have a bug open on that. | 23:19 |
tedg | TheMuso: One of the biggest thing that it's waiting on is someone deciding what key should actually open the menus. | 23:20 |
TheMuso | tedg: Ok | 23:20 |
seb128 | tedg, alt-f3? | 23:20 |
tedg | TheMuso: We'd like it to be the Alt+F1, but there's no way to get from the Application menus over. | 23:20 |
TheMuso | tedg: I would think that simply tabbing to it on the panel and pressing enter should also work, as that is how I access network-manager, audio, blueetooth, etc. | 23:20 |
tedg | Alt+F3 for the messaging, application one or the session/me one? | 23:21 |
TheMuso | seb128: I'd agree with that. | 23:21 |
tedg | TheMuso: I'm not sure why it'd work differently. What WM are you using? Most don't allow the panel to have focus enough to select stuff in the panel. | 23:22 |
seb128 | tedg, any, you can do left-right to change then no? | 23:22 |
TheMuso | tedg: I am using metacity, and when the top panel has focus, I can tab between the menu bar, launchers, icons in the notification area, and the clock. | 23:22 |
TheMuso | tedg: I was expecting that accessing the indicator icon would work the same way. | 23:23 |
chrisccoulson | pitti - did you want to delay gnome-screensaver for 5 seconds? | 23:24 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: yes, it's a work item of mine | 23:24 |
chrisccoulson | pitti - i can do that now | 23:24 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: but I'm waiting for the X-Autostart-Delay: feature to land | 23:24 |
tedg | TheMuso: Hmm, at least under Compiz I can't recreate that. | 23:24 |
chrisccoulson | pitti - it's just been uploaded | 23:24 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: so that we can convert the existing ones and add that one easily | 23:24 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: \o/ | 23:24 |
tedg | seb128: The problem is that the panel applets are basically islands. So it's hard to go between them. | 23:24 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: thanks muchly | 23:24 |
chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, can do. i can do gnome-screensaver now | 23:24 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: that'd be lovely, if you have some time? | 23:24 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, that's not a problem :) | 23:25 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: FYI, I settled modemmanager CPU usage now, and discussed the rsyslog/dd debacle; that will be a bit harder to fix, but I hope we can get it | 23:25 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: I'll upload system-config-printer and indicator-applet | 23:25 |
chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, i saw the work items you added today | 23:25 |
TheMuso | tedg: Well I can't do the same under compiz, since by default, accessing the panel with keyboard shortcuts is not enabled. I'll enable locally, and test myself. | 23:26 |
pitti | ok, so seb128 will do indicator-applet and eds | 23:26 |
pitti | so I'll fix s-c-p | 23:26 |
pitti | sweeet | 23:26 |
seb128 | mvo, there? | 23:26 |
mvo | seb128: yes | 23:27 |
mvo | seb128: in a mini-sprint | 23:27 |
mvo | but here | 23:27 |
seb128 | mvo, any objection to drop the delay option from update-notifier? | 23:27 |
seb128 | mvo, and to use an autostart X-GNOME-Autostart-Delay key instead | 23:28 |
mvo | why? is it so fast now? | 23:28 |
mvo | oh, ok | 23:28 |
mvo | well, just remove it then | 23:28 |
seb128 | mvo, no, but your --delay delays the icon creation only | 23:28 |
seb128 | mvo, it still goes through gtk init, etc | 23:28 |
pitti | also, this is now a canonical way to defer startup | 23:28 |
seb128 | mvo, will work on the change now and ping you for review and merge in a few minutes | 23:29 |
mvo | sure, fine with me, just commit it to trunk or I do it | 23:29 |
seb128 | pitti, btw it's "X-GNOME-Autostart-Delay" | 23:29 |
seb128 | don't forget the -GNOME | 23:29 |
pitti | yep | 23:29 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: X-GNOME-Autostart-Delay=30 | 23:32 |
pitti | ^ like that? | 23:32 |
chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, that's right | 23:33 |
pitti | s-c-p uploaded | 23:35 |
pitti | I'll do jockey as well now | 23:35 |
chrisccoulson | gnome-screensaver uploaded :) | 23:37 |
crimsun | bjf: ping, there are a slew of core (kernelspace) pcm fixes that Would Be Really Good to test soon; shall I push those to my branch on zinc? | 23:37 |
crimsun | bjf: reports from other distros (Fedora 13, Mandriva, openSUSE) are that they fix a number of audio anomalies | 23:38 |
seb128 | mvo, lp:~seb128/update-notifier/delay | 23:40 |
seb128 | mvo, want to review it? | 23:40 |
chrisccoulson | right, i must go and do some tidying up for a bit | 23:41 |
bjf | crimsun, are those fixes upstream (would they be in takashi's tree?) | 23:42 |
crimsun | bjf: they are as of last night, so they're in today's snapshot | 23:42 |
bjf | crimsun, so are you asking for them to be put into lucid? | 23:43 |
crimsun | bjf: I'm working on a bug report, and yes, it would be great to have them in lucid | 23:43 |
bjf | crimsun, the lucid lbm is close to being ready | 23:43 |
mvo | seb128: looking | 23:44 |
bjf | crimsun, please feel free to post them to the kernel team mailing list | 23:44 |
seb128 | mvo, danke | 23:44 |
bjf | crimsun, an request a pull | 23:44 |
crimsun | bjf: surely, thanks | 23:44 |
mvo | seb128: I wonder if it is still useful for say xubuntu, so ripping out the code is probably a bit much | 23:51 |
mvo | but removing it from the desktop file is fine with me | 23:51 |
seb128 | mvo, as you want | 23:51 |
seb128 | mvo, chart show that the delay is sort of lame though, it's still busy since you don't really delay init but only the notification area icon there | 23:52 |
seb128 | mvo, let me do a version update which changes the desktop only | 23:53 |
TheMuso | djsiegel: Ok the empathy theme change will be set when casper is next uploaded. | 23:53 |
seb128 | mvo, if I drop the update-notifier.c change can I upload? ;-) | 23:54 |
seb128 | mvo, xfce probably use the same .desktop though | 23:54 |
asac | pitti: fyi, dcbw had some questions on the bug | 23:58 |
pitti | asac: yep, saw them; will follow up | 23:58 |
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