[00:56]  * elky reads the meeting logs and concludes that the appropriate word to use starts with "cluster" and ends with some profanity.
[08:03] <Flannel>  /wii doesn't work for whowas now
[08:06] <tsimpson> what would /wii do for /whowas?
[08:07] <Flannel>  /wii would work for whois (/whois nick nick) and if they had already disconnected, it'd automagically do whowas (I imagine it was a server feature, whois for someone who disconnected turned into a whowas)
[08:08] <tsimpson> /wii is usually a alias afaik
[08:08] <Flannel> yes, for /whois nick nick
[08:10] <tsimpson> I don't recall it ever automatically doing /whowas, maybe a client feature?
[08:10] <Flannel> Well, I've never had to manually type /whowas before.  I guess it could be a client feature.
[09:00] <Tm_T> DryGrain: hi how can we help you?
[09:01] <DryGrain> i have no idea why my clint joined this channel
[09:01] <Tm_T> you tried to join #ubuntu ?
[09:01] <DryGrain> i have #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic on my autojoin
[09:01] <Myrtti> DryGrain: you've been hopping and popping on and off from the network quite a lot
[09:01] <DryGrain> thanks for hitting my highlight and letting me know
[09:01] <DryGrain> well now manually
[09:01] <DryGrain> not*
[09:02] <Flannel> DryGrain: Actually, I forwarded you here because of your quit message
[09:02] <DryGrain> yes my isp is akin to the spawn of hell
[09:02] <DryGrain> excuse me
[09:02] <Flannel> 02:59 -!- DryGrain [~drygrain@97.73.197.201] has quit [Quit: http://www.gnaa.us]
[09:02] <DryGrain> oh?
[09:03] <DryGrain> lol i thought i had changd that
[09:05] <DryGrain> done
[09:07] <Tm_T> Flannel: ^
[09:07] <Flannel> DryGrain: Sure it's changed now?  For some reason I seem to remember doing this with you before
[09:08] <DryGrain> this is the first time youve spokn to me about this
[09:09] <Flannel> Alright.  Must've been someone else then
[09:09] <DryGrain> here you tell me
[09:10] <Flannel> He broke ubot2!
[09:11] <Tm_T> ikonia: no, CrashOverride should NOT be let to speak in #ubuntu, based on his behaviour in this channel
[09:12] <Myrtti> is wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[09:12] <elky> it's been flaky all day iirc
[09:13] <Flannel> Myrtti: It exploded, yes.
[09:16] <Myrtti> meh
[10:26]  * jussi01 grins
[10:37] <jpds> I really do not approve of all this email spammage.
[10:37]  * MenZa spams jpds.
[10:39] <jussi01> jpds: Im sorry, we wont do it again.
[10:40] <jussi01> jpds: but I can assure you, what you have is nothing compared to mine.
[10:48] <jussi01> its over, no more spam :)
[10:48] <topyli> well that was fun
[10:49] <jussi01> 229 mails, yup, was fun :)
[10:50] <Myrtti> do you  need a group icon for launchpad :-P
[10:50] <topyli> i'm still getting notifications :)
[10:51] <jussi01> hehe
[11:11] <MenZa> What is this spammage you speak of?
[11:11] <jussi01> MenZa: check your email
[11:12] <MenZa> Ah, LP :)
[11:12] <MenZa> Also, shouldn't team owners be IRC Council? :o
[11:13] <jussi01> MenZa: yeah, havent got them moved over yet
[11:13] <jussi01> happening thing
[11:13] <MenZa> ah alright
[11:14]  * MenZa hat tips
[11:14] <MenZa> did you guys postpone some items yesterday?
[11:14] <jussi01> MenZa: yes
[11:14] <MenZa> I looked at the MootBot minute, which seemed a bit lacking
[11:14] <MenZa> alright, cool
[11:19] <ikonia> Tm_T: ???? crashoverdide is the guy doding the mute in #ubuntu and Ive not seen him do anything wrong in this channel in the last few days, I'm aware of one of his past incidents, but he doesn't appear to be doing that now
[12:01] <Tm_T> ikonia: after he got muted, he wasn't so nice guy here, including "if you don't remove it, I will bandodge"
[12:02] <Tm_T> ikonia: I can pastebin logs if you're interested
[12:05]  * Myrtti facepalms at #ubuntu
[12:05] <Tm_T> ikonia: I don't mean those cannot be removed ever, but not without proper discussion
[12:08] <Myrtti> I give up on esicam
[13:24] <gnomefreak> going over email and i got one telling me i have $TIME to re-apply and it gave a link to go to for more info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements it does not tell you how to reapply. Is it the same as when we applied to start with (at least same but to IRC councel?
[13:24] <bazhang> was going to ask the same question (re: renewal within one month)
[13:25] <tsimpson> gnomefreak, bazhang: you don't need to reapply, just renew them membership
[13:25] <tsimpson> ie: click a button on the launchpad website
[13:25] <elky> gnomefreak, you'll get an email from launchpad one assumes, which similarly to regular membership you'll get to click a link and magic will happen and the bunnies will come out to play at the foot of rainbows.
[13:26] <tsimpson> just like any other team renewal
[13:26] <bazhang> tsimpson, thanks :)  was just on launchpad looking for the 'renew' button, but am guessing that does not kick in until expiry
[13:26] <bazhang> also, time to learn the workings of xubuntu :)
[13:27] <elky> a week before i suspect, so we get to be spammed in about 3 weeks or so
[13:27] <tsimpson> this is just a chance for those who are still active to say "Yes, I'm still here"
[13:27] <tsimpson> so we can remove inactive members from the access lists
[13:27] <elky> i find one month to be rather short to be honest.
[13:27] <tsimpson> elky: it's only a month for this initial import
[13:27] <bazhang> ah there is a button then. must have missed it
[13:28] <elky> tsimpson, oh ok. so not forever. that sounds a little less pesky
[13:28] <jussi01> elky: itll revert to 1 year after this
[13:29] <elky> ah ok. similarly, 1 year is a long time if you're wanting to use it to keep up to date.
[13:29]  * elky grumbles about 4am surprise meetings.
[13:29] <gnomefreak> ok so emails are sent out?
[13:29] <tsimpson> I sent an email to most people and the ubuntu-irc list
[13:29] <Pici> 1 year is a lot shorter than the time that some people have been on our access lists but inactive
[13:30] <jussi01> gnomefreak: yup
[13:30] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[13:30] <elky> Pici, since some people have been on there for 5 years inactive, *anything* would be less.
[13:30] <tsimpson> LP will send you an email, yes
[13:30] <jussi01> gnomefreak: same as ubuntu membership, when expiry comes up, 1 week before it sends a mail saying, you expire in a week, please renew.
[13:30] <Pici> elky: I know :)
[13:31] <gnomefreak> :)
[13:31] <gnomefreak> thanks guys/gal for the info
[13:32] <elky> Pici, i would have done the month for the first then 6 monthly from then on, to be honest
[13:33] <tsimpson> people can always remove them selfs from the team(s) when they become inactive in the channels
[13:35] <elky> Just like they remove themselves from the lists we already have (ie, factoids) now.
[13:37] <ikonia> Tm_T: yeah, I knew he'd had an incident in the past, thanks for the back fill, next time he dodges, I'll act quicker
[13:47] <Tm_T> hmm, I don't have any "renew" buttons, should I ?
[13:47] <bazhang> jimmybirer I suspect #xubuntu
[13:47] <bazhang> TheSheep, that's jimmybirer longtime troll
[13:47] <TheSheep> he surely looks like it
[13:48] <TheSheep> but I lost my op powers on #xubuntu for some reason
[13:48] <TheSheep> so I guess someone else will need to hanle that
[13:48] <TheSheep> thanks
[13:48] <Tm_T> TheSheep: you used to have ops there?
[13:49] <TheSheep> yes, and on #xubuntu-offtopic
[13:49] <bazhang> thought I saw you on lp just a short while ago
[13:49] <Pici> TheSheep: You still have access, you aren't identified right now
[13:49] <Tm_T> heh
[13:49] <TheSheep> ouch
[13:49] <TheSheep> thanks, missed that
[13:49] <Pici> :)
[13:50] <bazhang> xubuntu is a core channel correct?
[13:50] <Pici> Yessir
[13:50] <bazhang> err #xubuntu
[13:50] <TheSheep> that better :)
[14:02] <Tm_T> so core-ops team is not open for applications?
[14:02] <Tm_T> +yet
[14:04] <tsimpson> not yet, we need a way to decide who should be a core-op
[14:05] <Pici> Obstacle course
[14:06]  * gnomefreak wonders what the difference is between core-ops and ops in core channels
[14:06] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: core-ops are ops in every core channel
[14:06] <Tm_T> +will be used as mentors for new ops
[14:07] <Tm_T> tsimpson: sounds reasonable (:
[14:08] <gnomefreak> :( core channels == all #ubuntu-* including -devel -women ect..
[14:08] <tsimpson> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/Scope
[14:09] <gnomefreak> tsimpson: thanks looking
[14:09] <tsimpson> plus, core-ops may even get a special cloak ;)
[14:09] <Tm_T> tsimpson: don't tell me I lose my combination ):
[14:09] <tsimpson> all the channels listed there (+ the devel channels) are core-channels
[14:09] <bazhang> ah, thanks for clearing that up; thought it was two or more core channels operator privileges meant mentoring duties
[14:17] <gnomefreak> does anyone else see the nm.pl warnings?
[14:18]  * gnomefreak has to fix but it printed out on this window
[14:18] <Pici> nm?
[14:19] <gnomefreak> .:09:17:58:. ==> Irssi: nm.pl: Warning, broken line in saved_colors file,  skipping 'sshc:'
[14:19] <gnomefreak> one of my scripts (not mine but im useing them) when updated
[14:20] <Pici> ah, right-aligned nicks
[14:20] <gnomefreak> i guess it outputs to whatever window im in
[14:21] <gnomefreak> Pici: yep
[14:26] <gnomefreak> is the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda  still standing or have they been gone over?
[14:26] <jussi01> gnomefreak: thats current
[14:27] <gnomefreak> jussi01: thanks
[14:27]  * gnomefreak really needs to keep up
[14:27] <jussi01> gnomefreak: by clicking the "info" button at the the top you can see the revision history
[14:28]  * jussi01 giggles at: http://i.imgur.com/kjj6P.gif
[14:29] <Pici> That reminds me of charlie and the chocolate factory
[14:31]  * Tm_T huggles jussi01
[14:34] <jpds> Erm, where's ubot3?
[15:01] <Amaranth> 30 days?!?!?!
[15:02] <Amaranth> I'm guaranteed to forget and lose membership at least once
[15:02] <bazhang> then there'll be an email and you can click renew
[15:02] <tsimpson> LP will email you about them all
[15:02] <Amaranth> Not that that'll help
[15:02] <Amaranth> I get a crap load of mail from launchpad :P
[15:03] <Pici> I had over 200 emails this morning about people being added to LP groups.
[15:03]  * tsimpson to
[15:04] <Flannel> 30 days is a regular thing?
[15:04] <Pici> Flannel: Only the first time.
[15:04] <bazhang> just the once then a year
[15:04] <Flannel> Ah.  So we haven't totally lost our minds
[15:08] <Pici> Not totally
[15:12] <topyli> Pici, i watched the mail arrive as it happened. osd-notify was still osd-notifying 15min after the mail stopped :)
[15:13]  * jussi01 laughs manically
[15:14] <genii> Bleh.  I'm gonna have to peek in here at least once now over the weekends just to delete the random-name CTCP messages. I had about 60 this morning and it makes the Quassel backlog horrible
[15:15] <genii> Meh. Too early in the morning and not enough caffeine to deal with those #u trolls
[15:15] <bazhang> ha
[15:15] <genii> Pici: I'll lend moral support!
[15:15] <Pici> Can't be as bad as all the hilight spam that I had because of idling in #freenode
[15:16] <jussi01> Pici: +1
[15:16] <jussi01> I dont idle in freenode anymore
[15:16] <jussi01> #freenode I mean
[15:16] <jussi01> :D
[15:16] <bazhang> hehe
[15:17] <Pici> I find it helpful at times.  I have a hilight on '#ubuntu' in there.
[15:26] <gnomefreak> before you read your email remember "dont yell at the gnomefreak" ;)
[15:27] <GP40MC> Linux likes it up the ass.
[15:28] <GP40MC> haha im a big shot
[15:29] <tsimpson> sooo, should we make -ops more open? ;)
[15:29] <TheSheep> and friendly
[15:30] <Tm_T> tsimpson: even more open? you mean we should remove last walls?
[15:30] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: good point :)
[15:30] <tsimpson> we should set flags +vVoO on *!*@*
[15:30] <tsimpson> then run
[15:30] <F40PH> HA HA
[15:30] <F40PH> Linux sucks cock
[15:31] <gnomefreak> well my thoughts are in your email
[15:31] <gnomefreak> you are way too fast
[15:31] <Tm_T> F40PH: hi and welcome
[15:32] <EMD60> Fuck you motherfuckers
[15:33] <tsimpson> *sigh
[15:33] <tsimpson> +*
[15:33] <Tm_T> tsimpson: he doesn't have same ident all the time
[15:34] <tsimpson> Tm_T: I know, was just fixing :)
[15:34] <Tm_T> (:
[15:34] <Tm_T> good
[15:34] <Pici> I thought ~ was for negating
[15:34] <tsimpson> Pici: only for the extended bans, starting with $
[15:34] <gnomefreak> i guess k-line wont work so well :(
[15:34] <tsimpson> otherwise it's just a non-ident'd user
[15:35] <Pici> Same realname
[15:35] <tsimpson> java user
[15:35] <tsimpson> ohh
[15:36] <Tm_T> interesting, -!- ops-students is "Server Operations Student Workers"
[15:36] <genii> The range he's on is a direct assignment of NetRange:   166.128.0.0 - 166.255.255.255 according to whois
[15:37] <Pici> Looks like hes bothering #freenode too now,
[15:37] <tsimpson> he always seems to have 166.186.* as far as I can see
[15:38] <bazhang> and ##linux
[15:39] <tsimpson> maybe he gave up now
[15:41]  * gnomefreak thought foward him to ##ubuntu-space but with different idents or ip ranges it wont work
[15:41] <gnomefreak> ##ubuntu-space == anyname
[15:41] <tsimpson> forwards work differently now
[15:41] <tsimpson> you need +o in both channels
[15:42] <tsimpson> or the dest needs to be +F
[15:42] <gnomefreak> oh
[15:42] <gnomefreak> grrrr
[15:47] <gnomefreak> has the new auto_bleh script been done?
[15:48] <ikonia> I failed a few times
[16:00] <Tm_T> tsimpson: what was on those?
[16:01] <tsimpson> Tm_T: the youtube one was "invalid", the .gif was a frog-thing
[16:02] <tsimpson> no response from /msg, so /remove'd
[16:08] <Tm_T> roger
[16:08] <Pici> jpds: The bots have always done that for webchat users
[16:09] <tsimpson> the +rq $~a was a little much maybe
[16:09] <Pici> I missed that
[16:20] <Dominian> holy crap
[16:20] <Dominian> ##fix_your_connection is open for business ;)
[16:20] <Dominian> hehe
[16:20] <Dominian> kudos Pici !
[18:07] <Myrtti> jussi01: wb
[18:09] <jussi01> grumble
[18:09] <jussi01> whole of oulu DNA went down
[18:32] <Myrtti> !md5sum
[18:56] <genii-around> jussi01: Is it safe yet to use the core?
[18:56] <jussi01> genii-around: it is
[18:57] <genii-around> jussi01: OK, thanks. I'll be back then
[18:58] <jussi01> wb genii
[18:59] <genii> jussi01: Thanks :)
[19:02] <maco2> jussi01: i just connected to the core and its telling me "host not found" on all the servers its trying to connect to
[19:04] <maco2> oh wait no. it apparently gave up on trying to connect to them and i was seeing old messages aboutthat
[19:04]  * jussi01 hugs maco2
[19:04] <Pici> internet just came back at work too
[19:05] <jussi01> Pici: \o/
[19:06] <Myrtti> oh man, I saw the italian guy doing !lista on #ubuntu and I lol'd
[19:06] <jussi01> wb maco
[19:07] <maco> hiya
[19:07] <Myrtti> I don't want to know what he asked now, I'm afraid I'll spurt my tea out my nose
[19:09] <Pici> Myrtti: "Hello you know how to download? I put !lista but he says nothing"
[19:09] <Tm_T> awww
[19:09]  * Pici hands Myrtti a napkin
[19:09] <Myrtti> *chuckles*
[19:09] <Myrtti> seriously
[19:11] <Myrtti> Pici: you're mean
[19:11] <Myrtti> and I like you
[19:11] <Pici> :)
[19:12] <Tm_T> you know what I would like? network stable enough so scrolling in irssi wouldn't take 10-60 seconds per screen
[19:17] <Myrtti> Pici: did he answer to you?
[19:17] <Pici> Myrtti: No :(
[19:17] <Myrtti> awwww
[19:18] <jussi01> Im off, at least for a bit. head is hurting lots.
[19:19]  * Tm_T huggles jussi01
[19:25] <Myrtti> ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[19:25]  * Myrtti stares #ubuntu-fi, flees
[19:26] <Tm_T> uhm...
[19:26] <Pici> Do I want to know?
[19:26] <Myrtti> no, you don't
[19:27] <Myrtti> someone pasted a link to a very NSFW comic strip
[19:27] <gnomefreak> NSFW?
[19:27] <Myrtti> not safe for work
[19:27] <gnomefreak> ah thanks
[19:28] <Myrtti> Tm_T: pm him rather than raising a calamity on the channel
[19:29] <Tm_T> roger, I just have very crappy connection so frustrations high (;
[19:34] <Tm_T> took me 3 minutes to write msg (:)
[19:34] <Myrtti> oof
[19:34] <Tm_T> roughly 30 % packet loss
[20:23] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[20:23] <Myrtti> nnnggghhghghghghghghghg
[20:23] <Pici> aagain?
[20:24] <Tm_T> hola espana
[20:24] <Pici> olaaaaaaa
[20:24] <Tm_T> ciao a tutti!
[20:24] <Myrtti> can I please but Spain under a blanket ban?
[20:24]  * Tm_T hides
[20:24] <Myrtti> pleasepleaseplease?
[20:24] <Myrtti> >____<
[20:25] <Tm_T> Myrtti: no, but we should have some nice way to force people to other channel ):
[20:26] <Pici> Tm_T: Like a factoid that tells them to join a channel?
[20:26] <Pici> It could even be in their native language
[20:26] <Myrtti> Pici: you make me cry
[20:26] <Pici> Sometimes Myrtti cries?
[20:29] <Tm_T> Pici: I said force
[20:29] <Tm_T> Pici: and yes we all do cry at times
[20:30] <Tm_T> s/we/you/
[20:30]  * Tm_T hides
[21:05] <Myrtti> jrib: have you told her how to install from adobe's site yet?
[21:05] <jrib> Myrtti: she says she has done that twice already?
[21:05] <Myrtti> jrib: with the deb package? wow.
[21:05] <Myrtti> oh well
[21:06] <Myrtti> painkillers aren't working, so I'm just giving in and hoping my tiredness will knock me out nevertheless
[21:06] <Myrtti> niteynite
[21:06] <jrib> Myrtti: does flashplugin-nonfree not work?
[21:07] <Tm_T> Myrtti: hope you get well soon
[21:20] <Tm_T> can someone see if crashoverride is still muted/banned somewhere? I cannot get browsers working reliably
[21:20] <Tm_T> and also I have to go anyway, brrrh ->
[21:51] <Mamarok> can somebody have an eye on #kubuntu please, I need a rest, not really fit for support
[22:03] <Tm_T> count me out, I'm just passing by
[23:52] <MenZa> alteregoa is a bot, I think
[23:52] <Pici> no, just annoying
[23:52] <MenZa> Ah.