[00:44] <`mOOse`> ahhh
[00:47] <`mOOse`> there's this nifty lil pgm called mountmanager that's a gui for editing fstab
[00:47] <`mOOse`> fair warning - it doesn't save a backup before it replaces your current fstab, but it does a pretty good job
[00:47] <`mOOse`> if you're a tard like me anyway
[00:48] <`mOOse`> also figured out it was something in the SCIM that was messing with my right ALT key
[00:48] <`mOOse`> not that works again
[00:48]  * `mOOse` is happy :-)
[01:54] <xonomi> Does anyone have experience using encrypted disks with Xubuntu?
[01:55] <xonomi> In Ubuntu, when I connect an encrypted disk, a window appears to ask me for my passphase, but it does not happen in Xubuntu.
[02:08] <mhall119> mr_pouit, if you could ping me when you're around, I could really use some help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfce4util/+bug/327926
[03:13] <pdg1_> hey... I figured out how to share files via SMB on Xubuntu. but is there some kind of smb client or does Thunar allow you to send files through SMB?
[06:35] <robert__> i wonder what lucid will look like
[06:42] <becker_11> I have just connected a digi camera to my xubuntu how can I find it's file system from the commandline
[06:45] <becker_11> I guess what I'm asking is how can I find unmounted filesystems that don't appear in my fstab file??
[07:01] <Balsaq> yellow T
[07:06] <psycho_oreos> becker_11, sudo fdisk -l
[07:07] <psycho_oreos> usually its mounted into /media directory if theres HAL and I think automountd in place
[07:10] <_Techie_> Balsaq, i recustomised my desktop interface... you might like it
[07:10] <Balsaq> cool lets see
[07:11] <_Techie_> uploading pic now
[07:11] <_Techie_> its not ubuntu or linux
[07:11] <_Techie_> but its nice though
[07:11] <Balsaq> i'm ttolin around with a new lapper as we speak
[07:11] <_Techie_> http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t212/xperiment62/desktop_techie.jpg
[07:12] <_Techie_> ooh, new lappy   very nice
[07:12] <Balsaq> wow 3d or something
[07:12] <_Techie_> 3d desktop on right screen
[07:12] <Balsaq> is that one of those 3d plasma desktops?
[07:12] <_Techie_> nah
[07:12] <_Techie_> its bumptop
[07:13] <Balsaq> thats really wild
[07:13] <Balsaq> compiz or something?
[07:13] <_Techie_> quite awhile back i was in the private beta
[07:13] <_Techie_> http://bumptop.com/
[07:13] <_Techie_> not sure if theres a linux version though
[07:14] <pops_> Hi, all. Got a problem with a fresh install of Xubuntu 9.10, followed by applying all updates. Had to shut down after a power sag triggered my UPS. When I rebooted, I'd lost all visible signs of XFCE other than the wallpaper. No menu bar or property bar. Vsm
[07:14] <Balsaq> got a i5 with 4gigs of ram and 32 hd
[07:14] <pops_> Vsm
[07:14] <Balsaq> 320 hd
[07:14] <pops_> Can't seem to find any information on how to restore the two bars. I'm able to run apps using Alt+F2. Any enlightened assistance appreciated.
[07:15] <_Techie_> !panel
[07:15] <_Techie_> man i love ubottu
[07:17] <Balsaq> he/she is cool
[07:17] <_Techie_> it has no gender, it is a god
[07:19] <pops_> Thanks much ubottu. That did the trick. I've bookmarked the page you linked. Looking forward to learning the ins and outs of XFCE.
[07:19] <psycho_oreos> !bot | ubottu
[07:19] <Balsaq> that is the 2nd person who had that problem lateley
[07:19] <_Techie_> it happens all the time
[07:20] <_Techie_> ive stopped counting
[07:20] <Balsaq> i know
[07:20] <Balsaq> i thought with open source stuff like that got fixed quick?
[07:20] <psycho_oreos> be thankful there's infobots for that matter, they save a hell lot of repetitive tasks or huge bookmarks, etc :)
[07:20] <_Techie_> well its not actually a problem in xfce or anything
[07:21] <_Techie_> its not constant and only happens to the occasional user for no apparant reason
[07:21] <Balsaq> i suppose my day is coming...been lucky...904 has been perfect for me.
[07:21] <psycho_oreos> ditto
[07:22] <_Techie_> 9.04 is perfect
[07:22] <_Techie_> extremely reliable
[07:22] <_Techie_> easy to manage
[07:22] <psycho_oreos> I hope the LTS version will do the same as it did for 9.04
[07:22] <_Techie_> 9.10 on the other hand is very buggy due to the fact that they tried to cram alot of unneeded stuff in
[07:22] <Balsaq> i hope someone can help me do a dual HD install on this new lapper cause i just don't get it....and i wont run 7 on the net
[07:23] <Balsaq> all my buntu stuff is normally alone on a hd...but on this new one i want to leace 7 on it...just not for the internet
[07:24] <_Techie_> why not for the internet?
[07:24] <psycho_oreos> distrust ;)
[07:24] <_Techie_> lol
[07:24] <Balsaq> just have no faith in explorer or windows on the net...except for my xp pro
[07:24] <_Techie_> firefox =)
[07:25] <Balsaq> i know but it still runs under explorer
[07:25] <`mOOse`> lame
[07:25] <`mOOse`> what - you got fbi filez or something?
[07:25] <_Techie_> also 7 has been proven to be extremely reliable when it comes to safe internet connectivity
[07:25] <Balsaq> it has?
[07:25] <_Techie_> yeah
[07:25] <_Techie_> installed a virus checker on my mates pc
[07:25] <_Techie_> he woulda been runnign 7 for over 3 months easy
[07:26] <Balsaq> hmmm
[07:26] <_Techie_> no viruses, clean as a whistle
[07:26] <Balsaq> well i have been able to keep my xp pro clean..but then again i run 3 protective programs on it
[07:27] <Balsaq> my xubuntu has zero programs and is clean as it was when it was new
[07:27] <`mOOse`> um
[07:27] <_Techie_> with 7 just run AVG scane it every few months
[07:27] <`mOOse`> xp was a rats nest of infection
[07:27] <`mOOse`> 7 is worlds better
[07:27] <Balsaq> i just uninstalled the norton trial
[07:27] <`mOOse`> norton?
[07:27] <Balsaq> havent even let it on the net yet
[07:27] <_Techie_> you let norton near your pc
[07:28] <`mOOse`> and you're worried about viri?
[07:28] <Balsaq> it was in there as freeware
[07:28] <`mOOse`> omg
[07:28] <Balsaq> it came with it
[07:28] <_Techie_> if norton was  installed, i suggest you incenerate the machine now
[07:28] <Balsaq> is gone now
[07:28] <_Techie_> you might also want to give your hands a good wash
[07:28] <Balsaq> and i havent let it on the internet yet...which is why i am about to put xubuntu on it as a dual boot
[07:29] <_Techie_> do you have the win7 dvd's?
[07:29] <Balsaq> i had to make all my own recovery disks
[07:29] <_Techie_> cool
[07:29] <Balsaq> and yes i did it
[07:29] <Balsaq> why deos everyone hate norton?
[07:30] <_Techie_> as long as your able to recover 7 if the *buntu installer fucks up
[07:30] <_Techie_> norton is a virus in itself
[07:30] <Balsaq> the trial thing wa torturing me
[07:30] <_Techie_> it will end up hijacking your system
[07:30] <Balsaq> so iwhacked it
[07:30] <Balsaq> i ams tiing here now tweaking all the junk now
[07:30] <Balsaq> has a tons of garbadge ware on it
[07:31] <_Techie_> lol, to be expected
[07:31] <Balsaq> think i killed it all
[07:31] <`mOOse`> norton has a long history of fucking plenty of machines up
[07:31] <`mOOse`> it's legion
[07:31] <Balsaq> yup
[07:31] <Balsaq> i hear it all the time'
[07:31] <`mOOse`> so why did you ask then
[07:31] <`mOOse`> it's a pos
[07:31] <Balsaq> i am gooing for either avg, avira or avast
[07:31] <_Techie_> `mOOse`, in the end, the machine isnt yours... its norton's your just using it
[07:31] <`mOOse`> avg used to viable, until rev 8
[07:31] <`mOOse`> forget it now
[07:32] <`mOOse`> avast is good but keep up with the updates on the torrents
[07:32] <Balsaq> i have avast on this computer
[07:32] <_Techie_> AVG is still ery viable as a free virus checker
[07:32] <Balsaq> it updates itself
[07:32] <`mOOse`> avg is now huge bloatware
[07:32] <`mOOse`> which is why I recommend against it
[07:32] <Balsaq> no sht?
[07:32] <`mOOse`> no shit
[07:32] <Balsaq> wow
[07:32] <`mOOse`> used to be the one to use
[07:32] <Balsaq> used to everyones fav
[07:33] <`mOOse`> yep
[07:33] <`mOOse`> no longer
[07:33] <`mOOse`> avast or avira
[07:33] <`mOOse`> I use avast
[07:33] <Balsaq> again..this is why i want xubuntu on here...use it for the internet
[07:34] <Balsaq> can you imagine xubuntu on a dual caore i5 with 4g ram?
[07:34] <_Techie_> even better, can you imagine DSL
[07:34] <Balsaq> i have puppy disk....but i like xub
[07:35] <Balsaq> even ubu would run fast on this
[07:35] <_Techie_> i was trying xUbuntu on my xbox but it didnt work =(
[07:35] <_Techie_> and i do believe my Sata - Pata converter has died on me
[07:35] <Balsaq> ouch
[07:35] <_Techie_> oh well
[07:36] <psycho_oreos> they usually don't last long, don't ask me why
[07:36] <_Techie_> ordered another one for $5 NZD
[07:36] <Balsaq> gives you a valid reason to buy more....
[07:36] <psycho_oreos> heh
[07:36] <_Techie_> yay ebay
[07:37] <_Techie_> 5 New Zealand dollars = 3.5055 U.S. dollars
[07:37] <_Techie_> thats including postage from hong kong
[07:37] <Balsaq> hmmm, now how do i go on the net to install avast when i have no norton?
[07:37] <_Techie_> grab another pc
[07:37] <_Techie_> and a USB stick
[07:37] <Balsaq> ohhh i do have one
[07:37] <Balsaq> but cant i just go to a secure site and gamble?
[07:38] <_Techie_> go ahead
[07:38] <_Techie_> you wont get a virus
[07:38] <Balsaq> would you?
[07:38] <_Techie_> i run xp
[07:38] <Balsaq> i did it like that on the xp computer
[07:38] <_Techie_> i got balls of steel
[07:38] <Balsaq> i got back ups!
[07:38] <_Techie_> i dont
[07:39] <Balsaq> even made a repair dvd
[07:39] <Balsaq> and a driver dvd
[07:39] <Balsaq> well i guess its time... i tweaked herwith all of my knowledge...which aint a lot
[07:40] <_Techie_> if you really wanna have some fun with that lappy bal, start a honeypot
[07:40] <Balsaq> hey i know how to install FF without being under the guise of explorer...thru command promt!
[07:41] <Balsaq> just not in the mood...just got outta work
[07:41] <Balsaq> just tell me ie8 is secure....even if its a lie
[07:42] <_Techie_> its actually pretty secure, not fully stable... but secure
[07:42] <Balsaq> is it as secure as FF...i checked all the secure boxes i could find
[07:42] <_Techie_> its as secure as FF on default settings
[07:42] <Balsaq> default?
[07:43] <Balsaq> i changed a few of those?
[07:43] <_Techie_> youll be fine
[07:43] <Balsaq> like the one...save encrypted..da da da
[07:43] <_Techie_> honestly doesnt make a difference
[07:43] <Balsaq> and i made it like private browsing too
[07:43] <_Techie_> just download avast and firefox
[07:44] <Balsaq> brb....
[07:45] <Balsaq> when iget this done i want you to tell me how to ge tthat wild desktop
[07:45] <Balsaq> brb
[07:45] <_Techie_> lol
[07:46] <_Techie_> ive got an older version due to reasons this channel does not support
[07:46] <_Techie_> but you can just go to their site and download the non pro version for free
[07:56] <Balsaq> wow wont let me install ff in the command prompt...1st time i ever failed at that? must have something to do wit h7?
[07:56] <Balsaq> have to do it online i guess
[07:58] <_Techie_> if you wanna install it via command your gonna have to do so as admin
[07:58] <Balsaq> well i went ahead to cnet...doing avast now
[08:04] <Balsaq> maybe ill gice IE one final chance...
[08:04] <Balsaq> gice=give
[08:07] <`mOOse`> what are you a masochist?
[08:08] <Balsaq> this install is like walking thru a minefield....
[08:09] <`mOOse`> wonder why...you sound like joan rivers
[08:10] <_Techie_> ima watch POTC3
[08:10] <_Techie_> ill be on my bed with IRC on my right screen
[08:10] <_Techie_> spam my name if im needed
[08:16] <_Techie_> `mOOse`, from what land do ye' hail?
[08:17] <`mOOse`> ny
[08:18] <`mOOse`> almost canukia
[08:20] <Balsaq> is that near nutsaak?
[08:21] <`mOOse`> close enough
[08:21] <`mOOse`> just across the lake actually
[09:52] <_Techie_> why must i be so horrible with gimp
[09:53] <TheSheep> you don't love it enough
[09:56] <_Techie_> anyway, goodnight #Xubuntu
[09:56] <_Techie_> i shall see you in the glorious morrow day
[09:57] <_Techie_> hrmm
[09:57] <_Techie_> before i go
[09:57] <_Techie_> anyone here dabble in 3d modeling?
[09:59] <_Techie_> guess not, ill ask tommorow
[12:06] <Balsaq> its a long way, to the top if you wanna rock-n-roll!
[12:47] <Goliath> how can i convert a mp4 file to xvid?
[12:49] <ablomen> Goliath, dunno about gui tools, but mencoder can convert everything, its complicated though, so i would google for mp4 to xvid mencoder
[12:49] <ablomen> vlc can also do it btw, but i have not converted anything with it without loss of quality
[13:37] <xubuntuuser> hi.
[13:38] <Pres-Gas> hello
[13:38] <xubuntuuser> im playing around with xubuntu by 2 days and i cant figure out how to use it
[13:39] <xubuntuuser> i can install something like windows exploler?
[13:39] <bazhang> thunar?
[13:39] <xubuntuuser> what is thunar?
[13:39] <bazhang> !info thunar
[13:39] <Pres-Gas> !thunar
[13:39] <Pres-Gas> LOL, bazhang
[13:40] <xubuntuuser> thunar has no panel amirite?
[13:40] <xubuntuuser> i see that this sucks
[13:40] <xubuntuuser> im going back to solaris
[13:40] <Pres-Gas> xubuntuuser, the desktop environment that xubuntu is based on, xfce is modular...
[13:40] <xubuntuuser> i think it will overtake linux
[13:41] <TheSheep> sure, good luck, have fun
[13:41] <bazhang> aha
[13:41] <Pres-Gas> Good job with the patience factor, xubuntuuser
[13:41] <xubuntuuser> thesheep are you using windows?
[13:41] <TheSheep> !welcome | xubuntuuser
[13:42] <xubuntuuser> this channel is too empty to be an official one
[13:42] <xubuntuuser> i see that no one uses xubuntu
[13:43] <xubuntuuser> bazhang i added you yesterday on onionpedo
[13:43] <xubuntuuser> in my friends list
[13:44] <bazhang> xubuntuuser, did you have a xubuntu support question? chat in #xubuntu-offtopic please
[13:45] <xubuntuuser> bazhang why you so ignorant?
[13:45] <mr_pouit> xubuntuuser: which part of "If you'd like to chit-chat, please visit #xubuntu-offtopic" is not clear?
[13:46] <xubuntuuser> i dont chit-chat
[13:46] <xubuntuuser> bazhang wants to hide that he`s on onionpedo
[13:46] <xubuntuuser> good times bazhang,not?
[13:47] <xubuntuuser> bazhang,99chan admins told me that they banned you
[13:47] <xubuntuuser> because you posted delicious loli
[13:48] <Pres-Gas> *sigh*
[13:48]  * Pres-Gas drinks more coffee
[15:57] <zerothis> karmic is freezing. details <http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8758423#post8758423>
[15:58] <zerothis> i'm using ircII in console at the moment
[16:00] <TheSheep> zerothis: anything in dmesg or /var/log/xorg.log ?
[16:02] <zerothis> checking log now
[16:06] <zerothis> what am i looking for in the logs (Xorg.#.log) there's 24 of them
[16:07] <TheSheep> the one with the lowest number is from the most recent attempt to run X
[16:08] <TheSheep> pick one where it hung and look at the end
[16:12] <zerothis> well I do not see any error messages in logs. dmesg has a lot of "requested width/height is greater that fb i see no error messages in the logs. dmesg has alot of "requested width/height is greater than current fb (#### > 1024)
[16:15] <TheSheep> not sure if it's important, looks harmless
[16:16] <zerothis> i guess i'll mention that the log on screen is up right now. i can switch to and from it with freezing
[16:18] <zerothis> wait, those Xorg logs are all from last year anyway. so no new logs
[16:18] <TheSheep> O.o
[16:21] <zerothis> oh, there is an error with alacarte in demsg. [3538] segfalt at blah blah blah
[16:22] <TheSheep> isn't that a menu editor?
[16:22] <TheSheep> for gnome?
[16:22] <TheSheep> !info alacarte
[16:23] <zerothis> optional eh? apt-get wants to remove ubuntu-desktop along with it
[16:25] <TheSheep> anyways, I don't think it's related
[16:25] <zerothis> perhaps i can just delete the alacarte config/settings files?
[16:26] <TheSheep> it doesn't matter, I don't think it's what causes the trouble
[16:28] <`mOOse`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/366932/   Anybody care to look this over and tell me if it looks ok for Xbuntu? I stole it from my Suse install because I accidentally nuked the one I had in Xbuntu. I'm running Xbuntu on a USB flashdrive on my laptop, and those XP and Win7 entries are my hd - I'm mostly concerned about the boot and and root portion of the fstab. Thanks
[16:30] <charlie-tca> Is it normal for usb to force fs check to run each time it restarts?
[16:32] <`mOOse`> that was how Yast set it
[16:32] <`mOOse`> the debug stuff is ok you think?
[16:33] <zerothis> demsg "render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010" "[drm:i915_handle_error] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x00000010, masking" then render error repeats
[16:38] <TheSheep> i915
[16:38] <TheSheep> ouch
[16:38] <TheSheep> I hate Intel
[16:39] <TheSheep> zerothis: I suppose now you google for that error :/
[16:39]  * charlie-tca was thinking that, too
[16:39] <TheSheep> zerothis: and see if somebody has any workaround
[16:39] <TheSheep> also,
[16:39] <TheSheep> !bugs | zerothis
[16:42] <zerothis> so what package does the i915 error apply to? X ?
[16:43] <Carnophage> zerothis: xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[16:45] <zerothis> I actually have an 82845G/GL, perhaps the i915 'drivers' are no longer useful in karmic?
[16:46]  * zerothis is sad that intel drivers are fully opensource yet everybody likes ATI and NVIDIA which are not as open
[16:47] <highvoltage> ATI and Nvidia cards are getting there though. the radeon cards have nice open source drivers
[16:47] <highvoltage> nvidia is getting there
[16:48] <charlie-tca> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#No%20Xv%20support%20for%20Intel%2082852/855GM%20video%20chips%20with%20KMS
[16:48] <charlie-tca> If you have the 82845G/GL, there are known issues with it. Might check launchpad for already filed bugs
[16:49] <zerothis> yes, but it sends a bad message. thanks but no thanks for bing opensource and open hardware, we are dropping you from our distro. we need to concentrait all our efforts on the proprietary companies and hardware
[16:50] <zerothis> so, my grub menu dissapeared. how do I boot to jaunty again?
[16:50] <TheSheep> zerothis: hold down shift
[16:51]  * zerothis proceeds to cry and reboot
[16:52] <charlie-tca> hit the shift key when you see grub ..., it should bring up the grub menu
[17:44] <ingebrigt> hi, I'm having problems with firefox crashing on xubuntu 9.10
[17:46] <TheSheep> !welcome | ingebrigt
[17:48] <`mOOse`> what version ingebrigt
[17:49] <ingebrigt> of firefox? 3.5.7
[17:49] <`mOOse`> dunno then - 3.6 has been problematic for a lot of ppl
[17:49] <`mOOse`> was thinking maybe you had upgraded to it
[17:50] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: without more details it's really hard to help you
[17:51] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: maybe try running it from a terminal and see if it prints any errors when crashing
[17:51] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: also, does it happen when you do something specififc or randomly
[17:51] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: can you reliably reproduce it, or is it unexpected
[17:51] <ingebrigt> the browser will hang, maybe once or twice a day, system monitor claims that process is 'uninterruptible' or 'sleeping'
[17:51] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: did you do something just before that started happening?
[17:52] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: so it doesn't crash, it hangs, ok
[17:52] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: anything related in your ~/.xsessionerrors file?
[17:52] <ingebrigt> seems totally random and semi-hangs down the system,
[17:53] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: it would be great if you could get it to hang and then examine a copule of things
[17:54] <ingebrigt> you would have to give me instructions in advance, I really cant predict the hangs :-)
[17:54] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: like if it uses up all available memory, or if there is space left in your home directory, and what files it has open, and what extensions you have installed
[17:55] <ingebrigt> does not eat memory, brand new system, noew hardware
[17:55] <TheSheep> you can check the memory in the system monitor, free space with the 'df -h' command, open files with 'lsof | grep firefox'
[17:55] <ingebrigt> I have innstaled restricted extras and tree-tab
[17:56] <TheSheep> have you looked into .xsessionerrors file?
[17:56] <TheSheep> that's where the messages from applications run from menu are logged
[17:58] <ingebrigt> can't seem to find it, bear with me. quite inexperienced with linux
[17:59] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: in thuner, select 'view' from menu and enable 'show hidden files'
[17:59] <TheSheep> thunar*
[17:59] <TheSheep> sorry
[18:00] <TheSheep> all files and directories with the name starting with a period are hidden on linux by default
[18:00] <ingebrigt> yes, I tried in terminal and missed the - in the middle of the filename
[18:01] <TheSheep> ah, sorry
[18:01] <TheSheep> forgot about it
[18:02] <ingebrigt> (firefox:1849): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times
[18:02] <TheSheep> that's just a warning
[18:02] <ingebrigt> is the only reference to firefox I can see
[18:03] <TheSheep> do you have the flashplugin installed?
[18:03] <ingebrigt> yes,
[18:04] <TheSheep> maybe consider using flashblock to not run zillions of flash banners on every page
[18:04] <TheSheep> you'd be able to isolate the crash more easily if it's related to flash then too -- you'd get the crash only when enabling a flash animation
[18:05] <ingebrigt> ok, I'll try that, thanks
[18:05] <TheSheep> with anything else I guess we need to wait until it hangs again
[18:06] <ingebrigt> I'll check back with you
[18:08] <ingebrigt> thanks for your patience
[19:46] <skrite> ello all
[19:47] <eXpl0i7> hello
[19:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> hello
[19:47] <Hezy_> Hi
[20:01] <skrite> does xubuntu-desktop install a different kernel than i would get from ubuntu-server?
[20:02] <Pres-Gas> skrite, yes, but so would ubuntu-desktop.
[20:04] <Pres-Gas> skrite, here is the different kernels available for just 9.10: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/linux-image
[20:26] <skrite> Pres-Gas, thanks
[20:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> Has Xubuntu something silimar to the "hardware manager" in Windows XP?
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> any program which shows you your hardware?
[20:42] <TheSheep> Sachse_Siechtum: lshw
[20:42] <TheSheep> Sachse_Siechtum: in terminal
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> terminal command?
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah
[20:42] <TheSheep> it's pretty detailed
[20:42] <TheSheep> run it with sudo for better results
[20:43] <TheSheep> sudo lshw | less
[20:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah I guessed...
[20:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> thanks :-) a friend of mine asked me this
[20:44] <TheSheep> you can also do 'less /proc/cpuinfo' and '/proc/meminfo'
[20:44] <Sysi-> you shouldn't need less with graphical terminal
[20:45] <Sysi-> on local machine i mean
[20:45] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah
[20:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> so there is only text output on hardware?
[20:48] <TheSheep> there are some gui programs that do pretty much the same thing, but you don't need them
[20:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> well...its not for me. *g*
[20:48] <TheSheep> http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/173-GUI-Thursday-lshw-gui-Browse-hardware-info.html
[20:57] <ingebrigt> TheSheep, I've just had firefox hang again, no new information that seems relevant in .xsession-errors, installed karma blocker and blocked all flashes except those I actively use, only flash driven site open were rockauto.com (at least I think its flash) which were just sitting in the background
[20:58] <jarnos> Anybody knows good converter for audio files?
[20:59] <jarnos> It should retain audio tags.
[21:00] <TheSheep> jarnos: I use soundconverter, but no idea about tags
[21:00] <TheSheep> jarnos: it just worked for me
[21:01] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: can you pastebin those relevant logs?
[21:02] <ingebrigt> pardon me for being thick, pastebin?
[21:02] <TheSheep> !pastebin
[21:02] <ingebrigt> !pastebin .xsession-errors1
[21:02] <anom01y> is there anyway to have scheduled tasks in Xubuntu ?  I would like to kill my email client every 10 minutes
[21:03] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: you have to go to that website, copy-and paste the text and give us the url
[21:03] <anom01y> maybe compiz..
[21:03] <mr_pouit> anom01y: with 'orage' maybe?
[21:03] <TheSheep> anom01y: cron, but why would you do that?
[21:03] <charlie-tca> anom01y: why not just turn it off?
[21:03] <jarnos> TheSheep: I have used it too, and it is easy to use, but I have found that gstreamer based converters produce flac files that you can not random access by alsaplayer.
[21:04] <TheSheep> jarnos: maybe you can add the index to them later
[21:04] <jarnos> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1395895
[21:04] <jarnos> TheSheep: I wish so.
[21:04] <ingebrigt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/367074/
[21:05] <charlie-tca> jarnos: I used ripperx, but I don't know if it retains tags
[21:06] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: looks like output from some java plugin from your bank
[21:06] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: probably not an error
[21:06] <ingebrigt> thats what I tought
[21:07] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: how about memory and/or open filesw?
[21:07] <TheSheep> ingebrigt: do you have it still hanging?
[21:07] <jarnos> charlie-tca: asunder does, but I don't want to rip cds again, I just want to convert them from flac to flac by a proper converter or to add an index.
[21:07] <ingebrigt> no, had to restart computer to get on IRC, most of the system hangs with firefox
[21:08] <TheSheep> maybe something in /var/log/messages.1
[21:08] <TheSheep> sorry
[21:09] <TheSheep>  /var/log/syslog.1
[21:13] <ingebrigt> what exsactly would I be looking for there??
[21:14] <TheSheep> look at the end
[21:15] <TheSheep> disk corruption messages, memory corruption?
[21:15] <TheSheep> anything that looks alarming
[21:18] <dunnagur101> anybody know anything about kernal errors?
[21:18] <ingebrigt> nope, cant find any corruption
[21:20] <ingebrigt> TheSheep last entries in syslog before forced restart seems to be wifi related
[21:21] <TheSheep> so that's not it
[21:21] <TheSheep> you do have free space on your disk?
[21:22] <TheSheep> and there is nothing non-standard in your setup, like a network-mounted home directory?
[21:23] <ingebrigt> yes, free space aplenty, virgin xubuntu 9.10 form live-usb, brand new hardware, I did however just find som general protection errors in the syslog
[21:24] <TheSheep> general protection error means that some application tried to access memory outside of its alocated area
[21:24] <TheSheep> usually
[21:25] <ingebrigt> could that semi-freeze the system?
[21:25] <TheSheep> it often means an error in the application or corrupted binaries
[21:26] <ingebrigt> last sysfs file: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0A:00/power_supply/BAT1/present
[21:27] <ingebrigt> or something similar follows each protection error
[21:53] <samuraicrow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot doesn't seem to work on Xubuntu 9.10.  Can somebody tell me how to get a text-based login prompt?
[21:54] <TheSheep> samuraicrow: press alt+ctrl+f1
[21:54] <p0a> Hello I booted to xubuntu today and the top bar is missing
[21:54] <TheSheep> !panel
[21:55] <p0a> the bottom thing also disappeared
[21:55] <p0a> is it the same issue?
[21:55] <TheSheep> yes
[21:55] <p0a> thanks sheep :-]
[21:55] <Sysi-> that's too common :/
[21:55] <samuraicrow> @TheSheep:  I meant without starting X server at all.
[21:56] <TheSheep> samuraicrow: then I don't know
[21:59] <ochosi> samuraicrow, remove gdm?
[21:59] <samuraicrow> I'm trying to, yes.
[22:06] <samuraicrow> The idea is that I have to pass some custom parameters to startx when I first boot.
[22:11] <samuraicrow> ochosi:  What do you suggest?
[22:11] <ochosi> well, what happened after removing gdm?
[22:11] <samuraicrow> I rebooted...  and it booted the X server as normal.
[22:11] <ochosi> that's somewhat surprising
[22:12] <samuraicrow> I don't know if the script failed or what the deal was.
[22:12] <ochosi> without gdm (or any alternative desktop-manager) you should land at the login prompt at some tty
[22:13] <samuraicrow> The fact that I'm running it under VirtualBox shouldn't matter, should it?
[22:15] <ochosi> good question, never tried that
[22:15] <ochosi> so do you have some startup script that runs startx already in place or did you just remove gdm?
[22:16] <samuraicrow> I just removed gdm.  I'll try again in case I mistyped something.
[22:20] <samuraicrow> Same thing.  After typing the script entry from option 3, sudo init 6 just rebooted into the X server as normal.
[22:23] <samuraicrow> typing "sudo pkill Xorg" just logged me out and took me back to the graphical login.
[22:25] <ochosi> you still have a graphical login *after* uninstalling gdm?
[22:25] <samuraicrow> Yes.
[22:25] <knome> maybe you have kdm, or some other graphical login manager
[22:26] <ochosi> are you possibly using a ro environment like a live-cd/usbstick?
[22:26] <samuraicrow> I installed it to an emulated hard drive.
[22:27] <samuraicrow> I've got no USB stick in the slots.
[22:29] <samuraicrow> I'm just using Xubuntu 9.10 as installed to the emulated hard drive under VirtualBox from the liveCD ISO image.  The ISO image is no longer mounted.
[22:36] <samuraicrow> The XServer simply refuses to die!  I'm typing from the ctrl-alt-f1 console and I keep typing sudo pkill XOrg and it simply takes me back to the graphical login again.
[22:37] <samuraicrow> Using ps to find the pid reveals that the XServer is simply restarting all of its own accord.
[22:46] <samuraicrow> After physically removing gdm with the package manager, I can now do what I intended.
[22:48] <jarnos> TheSheep: I can use flac to re-encode with tags :)
[22:51] <samuraicrow> Ok.  Thanks for your help, everybody!
[23:09] <aberhow> is there a way I can run a program and tell it to spawn in a certain workspace on my second monitor
[23:09] <charlie-tca> devilspie works great for me
[23:10] <aberhow> heh
[23:10] <aberhow> any way of doing it with what's available on a default xubuntu install?
[23:11] <charlie-tca> not that I know of, although sometimes saving the session will allow applications to start in the workspace they were in when the last session ended.
[23:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> How can I change my default file manager? right now I have thunar as default, but just discovered nautilus much better fitting my needs.
[23:11] <charlie-tca> It depends on the application itself. Not all of them behave that way
[23:16] <aberhow> ok thanks charlie-tca
[23:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> problem solved
[23:38] <xubuntu> hello
[23:38] <xubuntu> anybody there?
[23:38] <knome> !anybody
[23:39] <xubuntu> Does anybody know how to stop xubuntu from asking me for a password every time i start the machine up so it can connect to the internet?
[23:40] <knome> the magic three minutes.
[23:45] <charlie-tca> Seems more like one there