[04:28] <sbalneav> Per this morning's discussions, re: hiding things in Nautilus...
[04:28] <sbalneav> hide-tool's in my ppa
[04:28] <sbalneav> Ahmuck: take note.
[14:57] <sbalneav> Morning all
[15:13] <highvoltage> morning sbalneav
[15:18] <sbalneav> highvoltage: Just sent an email off regarding hide-tool.
[15:24] <highvoltage> sbalneav: cool
[15:31] <sbalneav> Hopefully someone will find it useful.
[15:33] <sbalneav> We're thinking about moving to Evolution here at Legal Aid as our mail client
[15:34] <sbalneav> so I'm trying to learn to use it effectively.
[15:34] <sbalneav> Normally, I use mutt, so it's a big change.
[15:44] <mhall119|work> I use Evolution primarily, it's good to me
[15:46] <sbalneav> I'm trying, but failing, to get evoldap to pre-seed account stuff for anything but mail
[15:47] <sbalneav> calendar and address book preseeds don't seem to work :(
[22:04] <Lns> Hey, have any of you seen this? http://www.pencil-animation.org/ -- might be something to look into including in Edubuntu!
[22:06] <sbalneav> Lns: hey, did you have a quick look at hide-tool? :)
[22:06] <Lns> sbalneav: I haven't looked at it yet, no :( i did see your post though =)
[22:06] <Lns> you got a build for hardy? ;)
[22:07] <Lns> i can check it out right now
[22:08] <Lns> don't see it in your ppa.. hehe
[22:08] <sbalneav> Well, the package is just a shell script and a manual
[22:09] <sbalneav> grab the lucid one and do a dpkg -i
[22:09] <Lns> mmk
[22:11] <Lns> is this something that might be good to integrate into pessulus?
[22:13] <Lns> wow you can do user-based hiding?
[22:13] <Lns> oh nm, you're talking about root dir not user
[22:14] <Lns> you have a dir for hide-tool/ under /usr/bin..not in my path :/ hehe
[22:14] <Lns> and if != uid=0 it should error instead of lots of "perm denied" messgaes =)
[22:14] <Lns> (just taking notes)
[22:17] <Lns> sbalneav: is your "loop through the hide dirs" a recursive traversal to create .hidden files in each dir you specify?  i was able to go to /dev and see all the stuff in there after running hide-tool
[22:17] <Lns> even though /dev was hidden
[22:18] <Lns> looks nice!
[22:19] <Ahmuck> sbalneav: noted.  saw your e-mail
[22:20] <Lns> who was it that said something about keeping track of the .hidden files after applying.. that is probably needed as well
[22:26] <Ahmuck> Lns: plastic animation paper
[22:26] <Ahmuck> PAP
[22:26] <Lns> Ahmuck: ?
[22:26] <Ahmuck> http://plasticanimationpaper.dk/
[22:26] <Ahmuck> another 2d animation tool
[22:26] <Ahmuck> that works well
[22:26] <Lns> wow neat :)
[22:27] <Lns> hmm, not in the repos (just like pencil) :(
[22:27] <Lns> at least for my old dinosaur
[22:28] <Ahmuck> i've used PAP and liked it
[22:28] <Lns> I guess some things you just *have* to compile =)
[22:28] <Ahmuck> will try pencil
[22:28] <Ahmuck> heh
[22:28] <Lns> we should look into that to include in edubuntu
[22:28] <Ahmuck> i'm not sure PAP is open source
[22:28] <Lns> see, that could be something we really need to get edubuntu going...stuff you can't find in ubuntu
[22:28] <Lns> oh
[22:29] <Ahmuck> :)
[22:29] <Ahmuck> sorry.
[22:30] <Ahmuck> i use a mix
[22:35] <Ahmuck> does this make me an enemy of edubuntu ?
[22:39] <Lns> lol
[22:39] <Lns> it shouldn't... education != open source. educators use whatever tool is best for the job
[22:40] <alkisg> (or available, or affordable :))
[22:41] <Ahmuck> k, no pressure sensitivy on tablet.  simple to use.  not sure if it has a color wheel.
[22:41] <Ahmuck> would work under edubuntu, but not ltsp.  the lag appears to be to great for our systems
[22:42] <Lns> alkisg: true. we need to make the tools available and easy to use =) we already have affordable down...except for the actual work to install/maintain it
[22:42] <highvoltage> Ahmuck: heh
[22:47] <Ahmuck> paintbrush acts like an airbrush
[22:49] <Ahmuck> colors on pencil don't switch
[22:49] <Ahmuck> ah! found color wheel
[22:51] <Ahmuck> it's a good start though
[22:51] <Ahmuck> for 2d animation