=== joerg_ is now known as joerg [04:28] Per this morning's discussions, re: hiding things in Nautilus... [04:28] hide-tool's in my ppa [04:28] Ahmuck: take note. [14:57] Morning all [15:13] morning sbalneav [15:18] highvoltage: Just sent an email off regarding hide-tool. [15:24] sbalneav: cool [15:31] Hopefully someone will find it useful. [15:33] We're thinking about moving to Evolution here at Legal Aid as our mail client [15:34] so I'm trying to learn to use it effectively. [15:34] Normally, I use mutt, so it's a big change. [15:44] I use Evolution primarily, it's good to me [15:46] I'm trying, but failing, to get evoldap to pre-seed account stuff for anything but mail [15:47] calendar and address book preseeds don't seem to work :( === etyack is now known as ftw_twf_pwn [22:04] Hey, have any of you seen this? http://www.pencil-animation.org/ -- might be something to look into including in Edubuntu! [22:06] Lns: hey, did you have a quick look at hide-tool? :) [22:06] sbalneav: I haven't looked at it yet, no :( i did see your post though =) [22:06] you got a build for hardy? ;) [22:07] i can check it out right now [22:08] don't see it in your ppa.. hehe [22:08] Well, the package is just a shell script and a manual [22:09] grab the lucid one and do a dpkg -i [22:09] mmk [22:11] is this something that might be good to integrate into pessulus? [22:13] wow you can do user-based hiding? [22:13] oh nm, you're talking about root dir not user [22:14] you have a dir for hide-tool/ under /usr/bin..not in my path :/ hehe [22:14] and if != uid=0 it should error instead of lots of "perm denied" messgaes =) [22:14] (just taking notes) [22:17] sbalneav: is your "loop through the hide dirs" a recursive traversal to create .hidden files in each dir you specify? i was able to go to /dev and see all the stuff in there after running hide-tool [22:17] even though /dev was hidden [22:18] looks nice! [22:19] sbalneav: noted. saw your e-mail [22:20] who was it that said something about keeping track of the .hidden files after applying.. that is probably needed as well [22:26] Lns: plastic animation paper [22:26] PAP [22:26] Ahmuck: ? [22:26] http://plasticanimationpaper.dk/ [22:26] another 2d animation tool [22:26] that works well [22:26] wow neat :) [22:27] hmm, not in the repos (just like pencil) :( [22:27] at least for my old dinosaur [22:28] i've used PAP and liked it [22:28] I guess some things you just *have* to compile =) [22:28] will try pencil [22:28] heh [22:28] we should look into that to include in edubuntu [22:28] i'm not sure PAP is open source [22:28] see, that could be something we really need to get edubuntu going...stuff you can't find in ubuntu [22:28] oh [22:29] :) [22:29] sorry. [22:30] i use a mix [22:35] does this make me an enemy of edubuntu ? [22:39] lol [22:39] it shouldn't... education != open source. educators use whatever tool is best for the job [22:40] (or available, or affordable :)) [22:41] k, no pressure sensitivy on tablet. simple to use. not sure if it has a color wheel. [22:41] would work under edubuntu, but not ltsp. the lag appears to be to great for our systems [22:42] alkisg: true. we need to make the tools available and easy to use =) we already have affordable down...except for the actual work to install/maintain it [22:42] Ahmuck: heh [22:47] paintbrush acts like an airbrush [22:49] colors on pencil don't switch [22:49] ah! found color wheel [22:51] it's a good start though [22:51] for 2d animation