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neversfeldeprobably best to upload it to our beta ppa or staging?00:00
neversfeldemaco: did not know people.ubuntu.com, I will upload it there00:02
neversfeldethanks for the hint00:02
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ScottKRiddell: Yes.  Thanks.00:29
ScottKVery much so00:29
freeflyingRiddell: no01:22
Riddellmorning freeflying01:22
Riddellfreeflying: Quintasan says he can't get ibus working with qt but can get uim working, what's your experience in lucid?01:23
Zorael(Rather, neither work in kwrite/kate. I thought he got ibus running after using im-switch towards his real locale and not ja_JP.)01:26
freeflyingRiddell: I hve no problem to get it work01:26
Riddellfreeflying: have you tried it with a locale other than your usual one?01:29
freeflyingRiddell: my usual one is en_US.UTF-8 :)01:31
Riddellshtylman: kdm theme looks good01:43
RiddellI do think that K logo could be replaced with a kubuntu logo, that would keep everyone happy who wants more kubuntu artwork01:44
Riddellhave you checked with nuno about this?01:44
shtylmanRiddell: yea... and we have removed all logos altogether :) http://www.shtylman.com/stuff/kdm_latest.png01:45
shtylmanhe didn't much like the K01:46
shtylmanI was indifferent and think the new version looks nice as well01:46
shtylmanso yea01:46
shtylmanhopefully tonight I will commit that to trunk01:46
Riddellshtylman: so.. when did you turn into an artist?01:46
shtylmanstill need to do one for user list01:46
shtylmanhaha01:46
macoi wouldnt object to the kubuntu logo...01:46
shtylmanI used to do some graphics work back in the day01:46
shtylmanbut then gave that up for more hardcore development01:47
shtylmanmaco: easy to do if we (as kubuntu) decide to go that route01:47
macopretty sure i dont have voting rights on anything though01:47
shtylmanbut upstream's stance is no logo if any kind... as of today... who knows...mabye tomorrow pinheiro will change his mind :)01:47
shtylmanthats how artists are01:48
shtylmanbut yea...this kdm theme..and matching ksplash look great when you login01:48
shtylmancause it just "flows"01:48
shtylmanmakes shtylman very happy01:48
Riddellwe still need a decent image for the top of the kickoff menu01:48
Riddellshtylman: is this KDM/ksplash theme planned to go upstream?01:49
shtylmanno change to ksplash theme (cause I removed the k logo from the center) but yea01:50
shtylmanthe kdm theme is being committed as soon as I stop being lazy01:50
Riddellshtylman: to trunk but not branch presumably?01:55
freeflyingRiddell: power manager in kubuntu broken?01:56
shtylmanRiddell: not to branch as far as I know...cause it is too late01:56
Riddellyeah, so we're just backporting from trunk, that's all good01:56
shtylmancool01:56
Riddellfreeflying: it can have an issue where the battery doesn't register, remove and replace battery is a workaround01:57
freeflyingRiddell: but acpi event can't be monitored01:57
freeflyingRiddell: like lid close event was ignored01:58
RiddellI don't know about that01:58
Riddellshtylman: where are the latest files?01:59
shtylmanmy laptop01:59
Riddellshtylman: able to send to me for packaging?01:59
shtylmanRiddell: yea... lemme boot it up and tar it02:00
Riddellshtylman: and yeah, the disk space used up for multiple copies of the same wallpaper is depressing02:04
RiddellI'm tempted to remove all but the largest from /usr/share/wallpapers/Ethais/contents/images/02:04
shtylmanRiddell: the problem with that is that then on first boot up the wallpaper might "jump" when the user sees their desktop02:06
shtylmanwe may not care...but I think it will be noticeable02:06
shtylmanI think symlinks might be the solution02:06
Riddellsymlinks from /usr/share/wallpapers/Ethais/contents/images/ to /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/ethais/02:06
shtylmanto the wallpapers folder in there..but yea02:07
shtylmanI would even say symlinks for the ksplash theme as well02:07
shtylmanit has the same "problem"02:07
shtylmanRiddell: http://shtylman.com/stuff/ethais.tar.gz02:08
shtylmanthats the latest copy off my machine02:08
shtylmanno logo02:08
Riddellyes /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/*/background.png02:08
shtylmanyep02:08
Riddellalso /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen-air/1920x1200.png02:10
Riddelland move /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen and /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/circles/ to kdebase-workspace-wallpapers02:10
shtylmanyep02:10
shtylmaniirc all the themes (at least some) suffer from this02:11
shtylmanits a major space waster02:11
Riddellit's also just bad coding, why can't kdm and ksplash use /usr/share/wallpapers02:11
shtylmanif the files were in the right format there...maybe we can...actually...lemme try something02:12
* claydoh wants a kubuntu logo in grub, in ksplash, in kdm, kickoff, and even the mouse cursor :)02:14
shtylmanRiddell: kdm can do it.. if the /usr/share/wallpapers images were names something like <anything>-resolution.png02:15
Riddellthey're not02:16
shtylmanright02:16
shtylmanim saying if they were named something like that.. kdm (dunno about ksplash yet) can handle it02:16
shtylmanwhat it does02:16
shtylmanI give it an image prefix02:17
shtylmanlike background.png02:17
shtylmanand it tries to find an image file with background-resolution.png (ie background-800x600.png)02:17
shtylmanif it can...it uses it02:17
shtylmanif it can't, it defaults to background.png02:17
Riddellwell why doesn't it follow the same pattern as plasma does for its wallpapers, it's just silly02:17
shtylmanthe moral of this story is... if you change the names of the wallpapers in /usr/wahtever... it can work02:18
shtylmanno idea02:18
shtylmancause it came before plasma02:18
shtylmanand noone changed it maybe?02:18
Riddellprobably02:18
shtylmanif I didn't discover this prefix thing..I would have added the ability to specify a folder to it02:18
shtylmanbut then after reading the source I discovered that it does that02:18
shtylmanand just went with that for no code change02:19
shtylmanbut realistically... specifying a folder is probly the better way to go02:19
shtylmanpart of the problem also comes down to how it lives in the repo02:21
shtylmanmaybe to not make too many assumptions about where files live on a person's computer?02:21
shtylmanbut for us...where cd space matters...its a big hit02:21
shtylmanseveral megs all said and done02:21
RiddellI'm off out now, I'll probably get this packaged tomorrow02:21
shtylmanthats alot of small libraries02:22
shtylmancool02:22
shtylmanpeace02:22
RiddellPeace in Portland02:22
shtylmannice02:22
ScottKSomeone packaging KBluetooth 0.4?02:41
JontheEchidnaScottK: already in lucid :]02:41
ScottKExcellent.02:41
\shkwwii: happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy biiiirthday dear Kenneth, happy birthday to you :) Congrats young man :)08:50
jussi01\sh: I was about to comment same thing :)08:52
jussi01kwwii: Happy Birthday!08:52
MamarokHappy Birthday Ken :)08:54
ghostcubeBirthday ? Party ?10:24
ghostcube:)10:24
QuintasanWho's brithday?10:25
* Quintasan wants a party10:25
freeflyingQuintasan: you still have problem with qt+ibus?10:26
Quintasanfreeflying: nope, solved10:26
Quintasanit was problem with im-switch setting XIM for pl_PL and ibus for jp_PL and I'm using pl_PL locale10:27
Quintasanurgh not nice10:35
freeflyingQuintasan: actually, its very easy to use ibus, just select ibus in language-selector10:36
freeflyingreboot, and it works10:36
freeflyinglike a charming10:36
Quintasanfreeflying: charming? try puting kanji or even kana in kate10:37
Quintasanwont show it10:37
Quintasanand uim doubles the output but that makes less problems that not showing it at all10:37
Quintasanbut I suppose it's a problem with Kate10:39
freeflyingQuintasan: kate?10:39
Quintasanfreeflying: text editor in KDE10:39
freeflyingQuintasan: ic, why shall you uppcase the K? :P10:40
freeflyingQuintasan: uim's architecture is very nice, but the ui is pretty sucks, not that straightforward like ibus/scim10:41
Quintasanfreeflying: Shouldn't names be written in starting captial letter :O10:43
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Zoraelibus ui is skeletal, features likewise. The kate/kwrite bug can be circumvented with uim by setting QT_IM_MODULE=xim, whereas using ibus it doesn't work at all.12:42
daskreechI"m on Lucid and I have this strange Green overlay for my windows13:15
ScottKOddly your IRC nick is green on my client.  I wonder if it's catching.13:17
daskreechIt isn't easy being green13:24
daskreechAlso my splash screen is the same one as default for Koala13:30
daskreechwhich is kinda strange since on Koala after I upgraded to KDE 4.4 I got the new snazzy splash screen13:30
Tm_T1530.09 <+Myrtti> anyone using Konversation anymore? sebsebseb reports that quiets show up on it as giving channel ownership13:31
Tm_Tcan anyone confirm?13:32
tsimpson_Tm_T: try muting me13:38
tsimpsonTm_T: http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimpson/owned.png confirmed13:39
Tm_Troger13:39
tsimpsonwith 1.2-0ubuntu313:39
Tm_Tsame in mandriva13:39
Tm_Twhops13:40
tsimpsonthanks ;)13:41
Tm_Tthanks13:41
siegiedaskreech: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3109633.msg216992#msg216992 use workarround number 2 in this post. to get the 4.4 splash screen background.13:59
daskreechsiegie: thanks14:00
claydohtsimpson: what have you gotten me into ? :)14:08
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geniithe_goat: Yup, for aggregating connections, failover, etc17:36
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JontheEchidnahttp://pastebin.com/f33ec7bdf <- About to commit that to trunk :)18:22
JontheEchidnaerm, perhaps pastebinit doesn't support images18:22
Quintasan@_@18:22
Quintasanoh wow18:22
JontheEchidnahttp://imagebin.ca/view/RcHUf7.html18:24
JontheEchidna:P18:24
JontheEchidnaKStatusNotifierItem is sexeh18:24
RiddellJontheEchidna: KDE trunk?18:24
JontheEchidnaRiddell: yeah18:25
Riddellnice18:25
Lex79how to fix that mess please? http://pastebin.ca/177601518:26
Lex79:(18:26
Riddelluse bzr break-lock lp18:26
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I had a question. The context menu for the applet has a "hide" entry, but with KStatusNotifierItem you can manually control the hidden status for all icons (hide/show/auto) from the tray plasmoid config. Can we get rid of that menu item and let the plasmoid take care of things?18:26
RiddellJontheEchidna: yeah that makes sense18:27
JontheEchidnaKStatusNotifierItem gives us a lot of lovely stuff for free. :)18:27
Lex79I have to use: bzr break-lock lp-64863248:///~kubuntu-members/kdepim-runtime/ubuntu/.bzr/branch/lock18:27
Lex79?18:27
Riddelljust "bzr break-lock lp" I thought18:28
Riddellbut I could be wrong18:28
Lex79no doesn't work :(18:29
Riddellwhat about the one you have above?18:29
Lex79doesn't work :(18:30
Lex79it says: bzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "lp-64863248:///~kubuntu-members/kdepim-runtime/ubuntu/.bzr/branch/lock"18:30
Riddelllet me try18:30
Lex79thanks18:31
Quintasanhm is the error with Python API version known?18:31
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: in karmic?18:32
QuintasanJontheEchidna: yup18:32
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: needs sip/kdebindings backport18:32
tsimpsontry using: bzr break-lock lp:~kubuntu-members/kdepim-runtime/ubuntu/.bzr/branch/lock18:32
Lex79tsimpson: works18:33
Lex79thanks :)18:33
QuintasanJontheEchidna: so sip OR bindings or BOTH? :P18:33
RiddellLex79: done18:33
JontheEchidnaboth18:33
tsimpsonbzr is a strange thing18:33
Lex79yeah18:33
QuintasanT_T18:33
* Quintasan grabs source then18:34
Quintasanhmm I think it's pointless18:34
QuintasanWe are backporting 4.4?18:34
JontheEchidnakde svn 108422118:35
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1084221&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 108422118:35
QuintasanJontheEchidna: shall I apply it to kdeutils 4.3.98?18:36
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: that'd be nice18:36
Quintasanwont be hard too I gues18:36
Quintasanurgh18:37
QuintasanS key stopped working as it should18:37
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: wait, I have an l10n fix18:37
QuintasanJontheEchidna: no worries, still grabbing the source :P18:38
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: prob. can just download rev 1084222 of printer-applet.py after quilt adding the file18:38
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1084222&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 108422218:38
QuintasanJontheEchidna: push to bzr to?18:39
Quintasantoo*18:39
JontheEchidnayeah18:39
Quintasanhurr durr18:40
Quintasandamn lp18:40
Lex79Quintasan: you forgot to bump build-deps sometimes18:41
Lex79same for neversfelde18:41
QuintasanLex79: where did I?18:41
Lex79in some packages18:41
Lex79in bzr18:41
neversfeldeLex79: where?18:41
Lex79well see my changes in bzr18:42
Quintasanthis is sooo annoying, you build, it works you go "YAY uploading" and then this @_@18:42
QuintasanLex79: thanks, sorry for trouble18:42
neversfeldei checked everything with bzr diff and in theory it should be ok :)18:42
Quintasantheory18:43
Quintasanalmost nerver == practice :P18:43
QuintasanIt's just me or LP is down?18:45
Lex79JontheEchidna: this file usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.kde.kcontrol.kcmremotewidgets.policy can go in kdelibs5-data ?18:54
JontheEchidnaLex79: yes18:54
Lex79neversfelde: ^^ forgot...I'll add18:54
neversfeldeso why did list missing not show this file?18:56
Lex79yes it did here18:57
Lex79also in ppa's buildlog18:59
Lex79-- Installing: /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.3.98/debian/tmp/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.kde.kcontrol.kcmremotewidgets.policy18:59
Lex79btw it's not a serious problem, don't worry :)19:00
Lex79JontheEchidna: seven hours to season premiere in US this night right? I want come in your home !!!!  :(19:02
JontheEchidna:D19:02
Lex79uff19:02
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JontheEchidnathey're doing a review show of the past seasons too19:03
JontheEchidna1 hour before19:03
JontheEchidnaSo I get 3 hours of lost in 8 hours19:03
Lex79I know19:03
Lex79same here but it starts 10th february :(19:03
JontheEchidna:(19:03
JontheEchidnaSo it's an Italian dub?19:04
Lex79no, Italian language19:04
Lex79they are very fast19:04
Lex79same for Flash Forward19:04
* JontheEchidna wonders what and Italian Jack would sound like19:04
JontheEchidna*an19:04
Lex79eheh :)19:04
Lex79only with Fox on Sky19:05
* Quintasan hands cookies to JontheEchidna19:07
JontheEchidnaom nom19:07
QuintasanSeems to build fine, now to check if it was even applied :P19:07
Lex79JontheEchidna: I updated the phonon patch, phonon-backends needs rebuild?19:10
JontheEchidnaLex79: I don't think it does19:11
Lex79ok19:11
Lex79Riddell: Qt 4.6.1 in bzr and I bumped all build-deps for that19:11
RiddellLex79: groovy19:12
RiddellLex79: I'm working on getting RC 3 uploaded, I thought I'd write a script for the job so it's taking a bit longer than usual19:12
Lex79Riddell: also, grab soprano from ninja ppa, it's ftbs due to missing Qt 4.6.1 in ninja19:13
RiddellLex79: I'd like to set qt's input method to ibus so I'll add a patch for that and upload 4.6.1 sometime today19:13
RiddellLex79: ok19:13
Lex79ok19:13
Quintasanawsome19:13
QuintasanJontheEchidna: uploading19:13
Riddellhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/367764/ what am I doing wrong?19:17
Riddellwhy does that end up with 'kdemultimedi' ?19:17
Riddellit's missing the last letter19:17
Lex79maybe you forgot to add an "19:19
Lex79ah no19:19
Quintasanargh19:19
Riddelloh, strip isn't doing what I thought it was doing19:21
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tsimpsonRiddell: foo.replace("-"+version+".tar.gz", '') should work19:27
geniiSo it was also stripping off the leading " as well as the a19:29
tsimpsonstrip removes leading and trailing characters19:31
tsimpsonit's usually used to remove white-space19:31
tsimpson" hello world \n".strip(" \n") == "hello world"19:32
Quintasanruby?19:33
tsimpsonpython19:33
Quintasanoh19:34
Quintasanfinally19:36
QuintasanJontheEchidna: ppa'd and bzr'd19:36
Lex79Quintasan: fix the changelog please19:39
Lex79in bzr I mean19:40
QuintasanLex79: ... don't tell me I uploaded wrong one19:41
* Quintasan is frustrated19:41
QuintasanI'd better not touch anything else today19:41
QuintasanLex79: It's alright to leave the version as is or I shall merge them?19:42
Lex79should be 0ubuntu1 UNRELEASED19:43
Lex79so drop 0ubuntu219:43
Lex79and put your changes in 0ubuntu119:43
Lex79"under 0ubuntu1" I mean19:44
QuintasanLex79: http://pastebin.ca/177612019:44
QuintasanLex79: just to make sure :]19:44
Lex79and add "add quilt to builddepends"19:45
Lex79but it's fine19:45
Lex79:)19:45
Quintasanokay19:46
Quintasanpushed19:46
Quintasanif it's still wrong then throw stones at me19:46
Lex79nooo :)19:46
neversfeldehow to install a docbook manpage when using dh --with kde $@? Or do I have to convert it in another format?19:52
Riddelloverride_dh_installman:19:52
Riddell  docbook command19:52
Riddell  dh_installman19:52
Riddellsomething like that19:52
neversfeldethanks19:53
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RiddellJontheEchidna: s/jr@jriddle.org/jr@jriddell.org/ :)20:37
JontheEchidnadoh20:37
JontheEchidnaremind me to do all this hacking before feature/string/final freeze next time :P20:38
Lex79Uploading qt4-x11_4.6.1.orig.tar.gz: 156442k/156443k[Errno 104] Connection reset by peer20:38
Lex79;(20:38
JontheEchidnaD:20:38
Quintasanohshi-20:43
* Quintasan pats Lex7920:43
Quintasanpoor Lex7920:43
Lex79sigh :(20:43
Quintasanthat's why I dont do kdegames20:44
Quintasan:P20:44
Quintasanpoor connection of mine + big uploads == no good20:44
Lex79eheheh yes20:44
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neversfeldeRiddell: would you have a look at the new choqok packaging http://people.ubuntu.com/~neversfelde/ ? It is also in bzr, unforunately I used debcommit and the description there is a little bit confusing now :).21:44
Riddellneversfelde: you gave up on docbook manpage then?21:58
neversfeldeRiddell: I could not figure out, how to do it and the old manpage was very old21:58
neversfeldeit was the one from our first package21:58
Riddellneversfelde: doesn't need the build-dep on docbook2x I guess22:03
neversfeldeah yes, forgot it22:03
Riddellneversfelde: ug, splash screen22:07
Riddellhmm, "do you want to add an account?" OK takes me to Behaviour22:08
debfxRiddell: this is the meta bug for the firefox kde integration from opensuse: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52851022:08
ubottuMozilla bug 528510 in General "[Tracking] Port OpenSUSE KDE Integration for Firefox" [Normal,New]22:08
Riddellneversfelde: no identica support?22:10
neversfeldeRiddell: same problem here22:10
Riddellhmm, twitter has locked me out for 60 minutes22:10
neversfeldeRiddell: it is called StatusNet now22:10
Riddellaah22:11
macoidenti.ca is still identi.ca22:11
macolaconi.ca is now status.net though22:11
neversfeldemaco: you can connect to any StatusNet server, not only identi.ca with this option22:11
neversfeldeso I guess the name is correct22:11
macooooooh shiny22:11
Sputwasn't it alwas called StatusNet?22:12
Sputthe software, I mean22:12
Riddellnope was laconi.ca22:12
Sputmy cell phone client has had the StatusNet option for half a year at least :)22:12
Riddellchoqok has an overuse of notifications, I know I just posted an update I don't need to be notified about an action I did22:12
Riddellneversfelde: anyway, I'll upload?22:13
macohehe22:13
macoi like the "combine updates into one bubble" option for the notifications22:13
macothen its 1 bubble per account22:13
debfxRiddell: it has been broken down into bugs addressing the individual integration features, but the patch is still one blob22:13
neversfeldeRiddell: this version is more complete then the one from debian, so I am for it22:13
Riddellthanks debfx22:14
neversfeldeSput: no, it was laconica before, it was renamed some month ago22:14
neversfeldeI will ask mtux to disable the splash screen by default22:15
Riddellit also suffers from pointless systray icon syndrone but maybe that's just my prejudice22:16
daskreechI wonder if it can become a icon if it's closed and not be one otherwise22:17
daskreechI says like I care since I don't have a systray22:18
neversfeldeI think the use of systray icons is matter of taste. Some people love it, some hate it :)22:20
SputRiddell: I like the tray icon, but it still renders the number of unread messages wrongly22:20
ryanakcaHurray, bangarang got sync'd22:20
Sputso right now I see a giant "3" which has nothing to do with the actual unread count :)22:21
Riddellnot yet ryanakca, it's still sitting in the to-be-syned directory22:21
ryanakcaRiddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/bangarang/1.0-1 ? Or is a package not successfully sync'd until it gets built?22:22
Riddellryanakca: hmm, spooky22:25
daskreechIs konversation supposed to be using 97% of my CPU ?22:27
Riddellyes, it's a feature intended to keep your lap warm through the cold winter months22:28
JontheEchidnadaskreech: Qt bug22:29
* daskreech looks out at his Caribbean skies and considers a localization patch22:29
JontheEchidnahttp://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-628122:29
daskreechMan22:30
* daskreech grovels back to irssi22:30
JontheEchidnaQt 4.6.0 is the buggiest Qt release evar22:30
nixternalevah?22:31
nixternalyou don't remember Qt 2 do you? :)22:31
nixternalthough, the bugs in 4.6.0 I will call one of the most annoying times for sure22:32
JontheEchidnahttp://evar.urbanup.com/365874622:32
daskreechYeah that was like KDE 4.0 all over again22:32
JontheEchidnainexcusable, imo. They even congratulated themselves for releasing early22:33
nixternallol22:33
JontheEchidnahrmhrm, this openoffice update frees 9 MB disk space, even after installing a new lib...22:34
JontheEchidnanot that I'm complaining22:34
RiddellI might spin new CDs to see how that and the network-manager change helps22:34
JontheEchidnaWill ktorrent get back on the CD at least for i386 if we can manage the space?22:35
nixternalI think it needs to be on there...I did a presentation this week, and everyone, no matter what desktop environment they were using, said KTorrent is by far the best client there is...that was pretty cool22:36
JontheEchidnaespecially since torrent is the preferred method of getting *buntu isos22:37
nixternaljust for a couple of days unfortunately...I noticed this just the other day, I decided to grab ISOs via torrent for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, Arch (which didn't work at all), and I think Mandriva....dude, I could have walked to each server, copied the ISOs over to 30 floppy discs much quicker22:38
JontheEchidnabtw, merging and uploading this branch will free another 20 kb in space on the livecd, and potentially fix a bug: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/apport/packagefix22:39
JontheEchidnasince I can't imagine 2x notifications for things will be good22:41
JontheEchidnahow will the update-notifier-kde -> kubuntu-notification-helper upgrade be handled? does update-manager have magic for that?22:42
Riddellkubuntu-notification-helper is part of the meta package so that'll get installed by the dist upgrade tool22:44
Riddelland for its last step it should ask if you want to remove old packages like update-notifier-kde22:44
* JontheEchidna fakesyncs kopete-facebook and polkit-qt22:52
JontheEchidnapolkit-qt-1 too22:54
Lex79bah, again22:56
Lex79Uploading qt4-x11_4.6.1.orig.tar.gz: 156442k/156443k[Errno 104] Connection reset by peer22:56
Lex79I'll wait the Riddell's upload then22:56
JontheEchidnagrr, I can't upload to polkit-qt-* since they're in main...23:01
RiddellJontheEchidna: what happened to your main application?23:03
JontheEchidnaRiddell: should be ready to send actually. I just got caught up with school (not a bad thing, surprisingly)23:04
nixternalhaha, a head hunter emailed me about a job one of his clients has...so I called him, and he described a job at Canonical, and I asked, is this for Canonical? He said he couldn't tell me who the client was...He read some more, which was read word-for-word from the Career page for Ubuntu...so I told him the job, the title and everything, and he was like, "Oh, you have already heard of it?" seriously I hate head hunters23:05
* JontheEchidna searches for what to do next for his core-dev app23:08
nixternalJontheEchidna: you could always pay me to give you a good vote :p23:08
RiddellJontheEchidna: add it to the tech board agenda?23:19
JontheEchidnaRiddell: is it too late to make changes to kdeutils before the 4.3.98 upload?23:27
RiddellJontheEchidna: dunno my upload is progressing but very slowly23:28
JontheEchidnakde svn 108437323:28
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1084373&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1084373 | Fix hiding/showing of the statusnotifieritem, I had forgotten to port a few things23:28
JontheEchidnafixes a crash with the --show option, and makes running it without that option work as expected23:29
RiddellJontheEchidna: go for it23:29
JontheEchidnaI would, but LP is molasses and I can't get the tar. I suppose I'll get it off of ktown23:29
JontheEchidnaslow as treacle ;-)23:30
JontheEchidnaRiddell: ok, pushed23:34
JontheEchidnaRiddell: do you have any hints on how to go about making the printer-applet gui not load before it is needed?23:41
JontheEchidnahmm, might not be too hard to figure out23:50
RiddellJontheEchidna: look at the code for the gtk one, but there's a cups signal that it waits for before it loads the gtk stuff23:53
Riddellso it starts with just a glib mainloop23:53
Riddellroar, bzr-buildpackage decided not to include the .orig in the .changes file for qt23:55
Lex79JontheEchidna: are you working on kaffeine-pre3 ?23:56
JontheEchidnaLex79: nope23:57
Lex79ok I'll do23:57

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