[00:00] think43: If you want to have a custom set of icons you can put them in ~/.icons/ as well [00:00] think43: did you try docky yet? [00:01] genii, no luck ... still got one finger .. [00:04] sithlord48: its kcm-touchpad === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [00:05] robin0800, i don't have that... [00:05] robin0800, kde 4.3.5 [00:06] sithlord48: no you have to install it [00:06] terran4000: No, let me see, i think I did a search in the package management and it was there [00:06] think43: to get docky you'll have to add a new repo :-P [00:06] robin0800, do you know the package cause i am not finding kcm-trackpad [00:06] I found docky to be the best dock all around [00:06] terran4000: oh, where is the howto onthat? [00:07] think43: one sec, I'll get it to you [00:07] terran4000: thanks [00:07] sithlord48: its touchpad [00:07] think43: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ppa/ubuntu karmic main [00:07] add that [00:07] at least I think that's the correct repo o.o [00:08] if it is, let me know so I can comment my own source list :-P [00:08] terran4000: I never did that before, just add to /etc/apt/souces.list, and apt-get update, and then go back to kpackagemanager [00:08] yeah, just add it to sources.list [00:08] then apt-get update [00:08] and then apt-get install docky [00:08] of course sudo first :) [00:09] robin0800,i found the repo [00:13] sithlord48: sudo aptitude install kcm-touchpad is easier IMHO === tanielo is now known as Stoney [00:13] How do I edit sources.list, it is write protected? [00:13] robin0800, for some reason i can't find the package after adding th repo... [00:13] think43: you generally need elevated privileges, e.g., using sudo/kdesudo [00:14] /quit [00:14] crimsun: I tried sudo emacs /etc/apt/sources, but it didn't work [00:14] think43: /etc/apt/sources isn't valid (by default) [00:14] think43: i.e., it doesn't exist in a default install [00:14] think43: easiest way for your to add a repo [00:14] sithlord48: see comment above [00:15] is to do it through the add and remove software thingy [00:15] robin0800, there is no package for karmic... [00:15] crimsun [00:15] crimsun: not sure what you mean [00:15] crimsun: how do I add repo, cause I wanna install docky [00:16] think43: generally, use add-apt-repository [00:16] crimsun: thanks [00:16] crimsun: but generaly, for future reference, how do I edit system files? [00:17] sithlord48: https://launchpad.net/~mishaaq/+archive/ppa/ [00:18] think43: see above: use sudo/kdesudo (depending whether it's a cli or gui app) [00:19] crimsun: ok thanks [00:20] robin0800, the jaunty version seams to work for karmic as well just had to dl and install w/ dpkg thanks [00:29] say you wanna edit /etc/apt/sources.list, on debian, I used to do su, and then emacs /etc/apt/source.list, how do I do that on kubuntu [00:33] <_nik_> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list [00:33] <_nik_> or just sudo nano /etc/... [00:34] _nik_: ok, it doesn't work with emacs eh? [00:34] <_nik_> depands on which editor you prefer [00:34] <_nik_> have you emacs installed? [00:35] _nik_: yeah [00:35] <_nik_> try it with emacs [00:35] <_nik_> it's the same syntax [00:35] <_nik_> kdesudo for gui-programms [00:35] _nik_: there we go, its working now, I could swear I did the same thing before, let me scroll back and see [00:36] oh, I only did su, not sudo [00:59] Anyone find an Ubuntu package for lqde docker? [01:01] I've downloaded a .ko file that enables my wireless; but I have to "insmod" it after every reboot. I am new to linux, but understand basics. Can anyone guide me through loading this module at boot? [01:02] I've tried to add an entry in /lib/modules/version/modules.order pointing to the file, but that didn't seem to work. [01:07] Would anyone mind helping me out? I'm a Linux newb and trying to get a downloaded driver to load at startup; I could write a shell script that would do it easily enough, but I want to do things "correctly". [01:13] hey people [01:13] do you know good place to ask simple mysql query ? [01:16] werber: what type of wireless card? maybe someone here with similar hardware can suggest the best way to get you up and running [01:16] It' [01:17] It's a Broadcom 4322; I actually downloaded a driver from Broadcom which works; it's just that I have to manually load the driver after every reboot, by typing "insmod wl.ko" (wl.ko is the name of the driver); I'd like to avoid that if possible. [01:18] I mean, it's easy enough to type one line at the Konsole; but I'm a tech guy that's new to Linux...and I'd really like to learn the details, if possible. [01:18] Jamesey: I'm not a SQL pro or anything, but maybe I can help. What's the query you have in mind? [01:22] Kind of a dead chatroom, huh? [01:29] hey [01:29] I have pretty simple query [01:29] that for some reason dont want to show correct ouput [01:29] I have 2 tables [01:30] first has field1 with timestamp in varchar(10) type field [01:30] second is field2 tinyint(3)type wiwth number of days [01:30] query is like: [01:31] SELECT t1.field1, t2.field2, field1+field2*24*3600 as OUTPUT [01:31] I need go get field1 + number of days from field2 [01:32] and that doesn't work... [01:44] Is create link to applincation in kubuntu 9.10 the same as creat new launcher in ubuntu 9.10? [01:45] teage: create link makes a symlink to the one in /usr/share/applications. so you cant edit it without sudo [01:45] ic [01:45] there's also "copy" i think. that's like "create new launcher" in ubuntu [01:45] thanx [01:45] teage: get that part too? [01:46] yes i did [01:53] How does this chat work? I mean, what is Operator? and are you all just ordinary users with some know how to share? or are you Official kubuntu/Ubuntu reps? [01:53] teage: Yes. [01:54] Daughain: Yes to what? which part of my question ? [01:54] teage we're users with some know how to shares. I believe that a couple of the operators are employed by ubuntu, but i'm not sure [01:55] or in my case useres with many questions to ask :p === Malin- is now known as Malin_ [02:00] ok, one question that bugs me is, why is it that i have to specify the ./ in some programs. I mean take for instance, gooscan, Im in the directory and the program is called "gooscan" not ./gooscan [02:02] . is the folder you are currently in. so basically if you do ./gooscan it reads as gooscan in currentfolder. I would expect them to be identical honestly [02:03] Yes, I would too [02:03] But sure enough. [02:03] they are not [02:04] even the examples show "gooscan" and then the argument [02:04] but if you simply type just gooscan i will get an error [02:05] I have to specify ./ [02:05] then it works [02:07] teage: easiest reason I can think of is, that if you use a command in konsole, then konsole will look in the folders specified in path for that command. if it does not find it in those folders, it will throw an error [02:07] when you use ./ then you give a complete path of the file and konsole needs not look at the path variable [02:10] teage: because your current directory is not in your path [02:11] ic [02:11] if it is like /usr/bin, then you don't need ./ [02:12] Its not a big deal or anything, Just that it threw me for a loop till i figured out i had to add the ./ [02:13] does anyone else gut flash freezing in konqueror after pausing a video? [02:16] I only have problems when desktop effects are enabled. [02:17] teage: ah I might check that out. could be related. i have desktop effects enabled [02:18] teage: ./ is a shortcut for current directory [02:19] kaddi: For me, desktop effects run smooth under gnome, but with kde i have problems. I wish i could have wobbly windows. [02:19] kde makes up for it though, at least for me it does [02:20] teage: i have no problems with desktop effects currently *knock on wood* I have all kind of other problems though :p [02:20] but kde rocks, i wouldn't give it up :) [02:20] i lived through intel support in jaunty, I'll survive that as well :p [02:20] gnome gives me little freeze glitches and kde runs smooth. [02:20] kaddi: no prob here with youtube [02:20] j/k [02:21] I love kde, but dolphin doesnt like any of my systems. [02:22] lucitu: i watch a lot on wisevid.com and i get frequently greyed out window, after I pause the video for loading [02:22] kaddi: let me try that [02:22] kaddi: are you using konquerer [02:22] teage yes [02:22] hmmm [02:23] i use firefox for most of my stuff, its faster. donwquer has nice tools so i keep them both close [02:23] lucitu: actually it could also be the flash ads and not the video that cause the problem.. [02:23] kaddi: just tried it and no problem [02:24] it's on pause right now [02:24] btw i'm on lucid [02:24] 64-bit [02:24] ah, I'm still on karmic and 32bit [02:25] lol, probably not the best basis to look for someone to reproduce it :p [02:25] lucitu: can you still use all the same apps with 64? [02:25] kaddi: absolutely [02:25] Hi [02:26] lucitu: whats the main difference? graphics? [02:26] How could I make in Dolphin folders NOT show their content? [02:26] anyhow killing nspluginviewer off and reload the page usually fixes the problem. I even think the video continues to load after the flash-window is greyed out [02:26] kaddi: a lot snappier..never looked back since 4yrs [02:26] lucitu: teage is asking about 64bit :p [02:27] kaddi: ooo sorry [02:27] no problem ;) [02:27] just thought I'd mention it ;) [02:27] teage: yes 64-bit is a lot snappier [02:28] teage: never looked back since I used it 4 yrs back [02:29] flash's been getting a lot of negative publicity on 64bit the last years, no? Is it working now? [02:29] kaddi: why are u using nspluginwrapper if you are using 32-bit? [02:30] lucitu: good question, I've never really used konqueror much.. just used it over the week-end (and today) cause I wanted to save my Firefox session unchanged :p [02:31] kaddi: flash has been 64-bit native for quite sometime [02:32] and it's very good [02:32] he, nice :) [02:32] has anyone tried lxyde? thats like a mini kde right? [02:32] i'll probably do a reformat for lucid, wanna give grub2 and ext4 a try and i'll probably do an upgrade to 64bit as well [02:33] I am gonna try running it on my old x-box [02:33] listen to your box..if it's 64-bit cpu then go 64-bit [02:34] taege: did u mean lxde? [02:34] lucitu:yes [02:34] lucitu: it is. and it even has 4Gb of RAM in it now.. I've just been waiting for the right occasion ;) [02:34] lucitu: how do you listen to yer box [02:35] teage: i mean don't listen to fud about 64-bit [02:36] How do you check if you have 64bit capibility? [02:36] kaddi: my lap is an old compaq..2G ram ati xpress200m and composting is funtastic with plain vanilla radeon driver [02:37] teage: uname -a [02:37] lucitu: yeah, very very sadly I have intel chips on my laptop and that has not been to well supported the last couple of month [02:37] it was fine back in intrepid [02:38] teage: are you asking how to check if you have 64bit installed? or how to check if you have a 64bit processor? [02:38] dose not say anything about 32 bit or 64 bit [02:38] teage: you shud see something like x86_64 [02:38] hmmm [02:39] here is the outcome- teage@teage:~$ uname -a [02:39] Linux teage 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux [02:39] u have a 32-bit [02:39] kernel [02:40] teage: lshw -C cpu will give you info about your processor. more than likely it is 64bit, unless it's really old [02:40] teage: lshw will show your hardware [02:41] there is a part that says width: 64 bits [02:41] is what i am looking for right? [02:41] teage: that's it.. you have 64-bit cpu [02:41] i has a 32bit cpu on my old laptop :p I found out when i tried to installed a 64bit OS the other day :p [02:42] i will try the 64 [02:42] is there a way of upgrading to 64 without loosing my current install? [02:42] teage: no [02:42] darn!! [02:43] teage: how big is your HD? [02:43] you can create a separate partition [02:43] 164 gig [02:43] lucitu: what would be the minimum size suggested for a 64bit install? [02:43] that's more than enough [02:44] 10 gig is more than enough === bobby_ is now known as xiven [02:45] k, i should be able to find that space somewhere :p I suppose that means I should store /home on a different partition, though? [02:45] hey guys! and gals i guess [02:45] Hello [02:45] all the gals in the room HOLLA!!! [02:45] hi NikofTime .9 [02:46] I was wondering if there are any KDE Linux projects that need a hand in development, or have been discontinued with an interest in revival? [02:46] kaddi: if you want yes [02:46] yo kaddi_ ! [02:46] hey guys [02:46] xiven: you mean you want to volunteer? [02:46] so i have been "obtaining" some discographies on torrent [02:47] and some of the filenames contain characters like that ae together and some other symbols that make the files imposible to move/rename/delete [02:50] thanx for all the help ppl. goin to bed. see ya. === dimitris is now known as anypotaktos === _RaNdY is now known as RaNdY === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [03:28] hello world [03:39] w0rd [03:48] Need to set up an XP VM, any suggestions where to start? [03:48] If you run kubuntu, you cannot install gnome? [03:48] think43: You can run both, yes. [03:49] think43: If oyu are in kubuntu, its apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, as I recall. [03:49] Daughain: hmm, I get an error when I try: gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: fast-user-switch-applet (>= 2.22.0) but it is not installable [03:49] Daughain: oh, I see [03:49] think43: Ya, you need to install the environ before you can run it. =z) [03:50] Daughain: You know, I had debian on here, and then when I installed Kubuntu, it kept some of my previous kde 4 settings, but I was expecting it to be formatted [03:51] think43: Couldnt tell ya. Though, I;ve seen some equaly strange things happen. =) [03:52] think43: I beleive te install looks to see what is already on the system, and leaves that alone, least thats how my experience makes it look. [03:54] Daughain: yeah, it checked and copied settings, and then formatted and installed over after that [03:54] Daughain: I was surprised [03:54] * Daughain nods. [03:54] SO was I. =) I was expecting to have to rebuild everything. [03:58] it was just some settings [03:59] think43: For me it was a lot more than that, but, I was also doing a reinstall. [04:00] Daughain: it is quite awesome, but what if you re-installing cause you screwed up all the setting, and you want to go back to defaults. :( [04:01] think43: No, I managed to delete something I shouldnt have. =) [04:01] My settings were fine. [04:01] One of the problems you can encouter in removing stuff via synaptics, if ya arent careful [04:01] Daughain: really, in Linux systems, you should never re-install, it is supposed to outlive its hardware [04:02] think43: I;ve been using linux for 2 months. :P [04:02] When I delete something and all I can access is cli, I need to reinstall. [04:02] Daughain: Things can get messy though, so I prefer re-installing [04:03] * Daughain nods. [04:04] I was on debian, and then I moved to backports, then I put testing kde 4, then I said, might as well dist upgrade, but it wouldn't work. I bet a pro could get it upgraded a lot easier than re-installing, but for me, to make pro move take 100 mistake, and two days before it works, and a re-install is just 35mins [04:04] Looking into VM right now. [04:05] think43: Ya, I dont ecen have enough background right now to even try making it work, so, I have no other option, no worries though. =) [04:05] Now I am on Kubuntu, cause I wanted kde 4 which is awesome, but I want avant-window-navigator even more, and I think it works better on gnome, so I am downloading ubuntu [04:06] Actually, its just the interface that changes.......I ALWAYS install ubuntu then add kde, so, not exactly sure how to install gnome from kde. =O [04:06] Daughain: you know one thing you will realize which wasn't so obvious to me in the beginning. The bulk of setting up Linux, is installing. And in Ubuntu, thats sudo apt-get install what-ever [04:07] Daughain: I should just apt-get install gnome, but I wanna do it from a basic install for some reason [04:07] think43: Ya, that much I;ve already figiured out.=) I;ve even managed to figure ut how to reove thinga too. =) [04:08] Daughain: ya, apt-get remove, also, apt-get remove --purge, if you wanna apt-get install again for default settings [04:08] * Daughain nods. [04:09] Right now I'd like to know why dolphin doesnt seem to like my systems. [04:10] it locks up the desktop so bad I had to switch back to nautilus. [04:12] Daughain: as soon as you open it? [04:12] No, but if I try and do anything in it like moving or copying files. [04:12] it crashes a decent amount on this system too, but not as badly. [04:13] Daughain: why don't you do what I mentioned about, apt-get remove --purge, and reinstall with apt-get install [04:13] Daughain: I think that happened to me too [04:13] The desktop is a fresh install, only edits were to fstab to mount a secondary hd and a LAN share. [04:14] Daughain: and where are the copies to? Can you do the exact same copies on the command line fine? [04:14] think43: I hAVENT MASTERED USING CLI TO COPY OR MOVE FILES YET. [04:14] Sorry for the caps. [04:16] Daughain: it is easy, you just do $cp source-file destination. So say I have a file in /home/think43/some-file.txt, and I wanna move to another drive like /old-home/tp43/Desktop/backups, Then I would do $cp /home/think43/some-file.txt /old-home/tp43/Desktop/backups [04:17] Easy for you to say. :P I still am not sure where all the files are, and, in some cases they are on the lan. [04:17] if you are in /home/think43 already, then you can just do $cp some-file.txt /old-home/tp43/Desktop/backups [04:17] Daughain: oh [04:17] brb === Malin_ is now known as Malin_away === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [05:14] I'm getting 0 of 0 connected peers on my torrents that have ~100 seeders, any help? [05:58] torasuku_: firewall?, what torrent client? [06:31] hello all [06:32] which is the best way to get myself addressed without spamming the channel? [06:44] mistrynitesh: what do you mean by "get myself addressed"? [06:57] afd [07:15] can any one tell me that how to sync. blackbarry 9530 strom in ubuntu [07:44] iconmefisto: i wanted someone to call out my name just as you did, but I did not want to spam the channel [07:51] has the bug in the powermanagement daemon been rwctified as yet? [07:51] *rectified [07:52] everytime my notebook wakes up after going into sleep i am told there is no battery plugged in === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin [08:06] can I install ubuntu 9.10 on usb drive to boot with ? [08:07] !usb [08:07] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [08:07] !install [08:07] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [08:07] GabrielSOE: use USB startup startup disk creator [08:09] iconmefisto: please elaborate i'm still a newbe [08:09] GabrielSOE: it's a program, should already be installed. look in system submenu, or just alt-F2 and start typing "usb startup" [08:10] iconmefisto: not installed, I'll get it [08:11] !info usb-creator-kde [08:11] usb-creator-kde (source: usb-creator): Ubuntu USB desktop image creator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.12 (karmic), package size 17 kB, installed size 172 kB [08:11] GabrielSOE: install that package. usb-creator-kde [08:12] iconmefisto: doing so now, thanks m8 [08:17] iconmefisto: done got it (usb) === kolja_ is now known as Guest52591 [09:08] i search a good unpacker for kubuntu.. normaly i use ark... and on suse, ark unpack nearly all files ...like .gz, .rar and so on... now he has problems with .gz and rar.. [09:08] what have i to install to support nealry all package-formats? [09:11] hi [09:11] thing and now it won't launch [09:12] is there a way to start with a new clean postgresql install ? the upgrade from 8.3 to 8.4 messed up every [09:12] wow [09:17] you swaped your lines :) [09:23] hi all [09:23] i just wanted to say [09:24] damn my kubuntu karmic desktop looks and feels sexy [09:24] Hi folks -- What is the package/process for KDE panel? [09:27] kinja-sheep: i think it's part of plasma-desktop process [09:28] turtle^s0up: Do you know which package is that? (Ie, running KDE plasma-desktop in openbox and such). [09:31] kinja-sheep: just to install the kde panel, i would think it would depend on plasma-desktop, not sure [09:32] Good morning all! [09:32] hi. how do i use kde panel with openbox? [09:32] :-) sry .. don't know! [09:32] hi [09:33] Hi [09:33] kinja-sheep: why not use other panels === yadda_ is now known as Zoot365 [09:34] turtle^s0up: I'm assisting somebody in #ubuntu -- I think that was kdebase-workspace-bin [09:34] kinja-sheep, i am here too :) [09:35] papul: You sly fox. [09:35] :P [09:35] Good morning [09:36] papul: i think panels like lxpanel, tint, and other lightweights would fit in better than kde's panel [09:38] turtle^s0up, some other options [09:38] please [09:38] Docks! [09:39] im making my usbstick into a livedvd with usb-creator-kde .. i checked the persistent option. just wondering: is it just the /home and /root directories thats persistent? or any extra program you install too? [09:42] turtle^s0up, some other options please [09:42] for panels [09:44] papul: tint2, fbpanel, pypanel, bmpanel [09:44] papul: tint2 looks the best [09:45] is this the place to be if I'm a new user kubuntu user looking for a clue? [09:46] Zoot365: probably :) [09:49] I've done some simple game mod scripting, but t now I'm being asked to compile gimp-gap. I'm over my head. [09:50] Zoot365: you specifically mean compile? or just install? [09:51] Zoot365: there's a pre-compiled gimp-gap package you can install. do you need to compile it with special options or something? [09:51] Zoot365: sudo apt-get install gimp-gap for the precompiled one [09:52] I couldn't find it in kpackagekit so I assune I have to compile it. [09:52] !info gimp-gap [09:52] gimp-gap (source: gimp-gap): The GIMP Animation Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2526 kB, installed size 7896 kB [09:53] Zoot365: open a terminal and type that sudo apt-get .... i wrote [09:53] sec [09:54] Zoot365: if it doesnt know the package .. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # before the deb http://..... and deb-src http://... [09:54] Zoot365: and sudo apt-get update [09:56] I started getting a message at log on, kde thinks it can remove nvidia. why would it say that. [09:56] ? [09:56] it suggests that I have the latest version but I know its Version 2.4.0-2ubuntu1 and that dosn't work. [09:57] Zoot365: that is the version in ubuntu repos. which version do you need? [09:58] Zoot365: download ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/plug-ins/v2.6/gap .. extract somewhere .. and as root run ./configure [09:59] I have the gz for that here I'm just not sure what to do with it. [09:59] looking at it is no help. [09:59] I tried yelling too... [09:59] lol [09:59] Zoot365: have you unpacked it yet? [10:00] Zoot365: tar xvf gimp-gap-2.6.0.tar.bz2 [10:00] Yep. looked, yelled, nothing. [10:01] Zoot365: or just right click , extract here. If you are lazy. :) [10:02] I hane a question ...... [10:02] !ask | manolis [10:02] manolis: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [10:02] I have an old laptop and I cannot use other kubuntu than 7.10 [10:02] You say lazy like its a bad thing. [10:03] how to I change my repos so I can get some updates on this version!? [10:03] and heere is the folder. now what? [10:03] Zoot365: open a terminal .. go to the diectory (gimp-gap-2.6.0/) and: sudo ./configure [10:03] Zoot365: If you are really lazy, you could , open terminal, right click the file, extract here , type cd in terminal , click on yer file and drag it to terminal then press enter [10:03] not sure if sudo is required for ./configure ;) [10:04] Zoot365: nope its not a bad thing. How you think i know this. lol [10:04] havent compiled any programs in ages :) [10:04] Zoot365: maybe you should uninstall the 2.4 version first. not sure [10:05] iconmefisto: doesnt it just overwrite when make install ? [10:05] jastor: not quite sure, but it won't hurt to remove the older one first [10:05] Zoot365: if you do that what i said you will be in that dirrectory, then all you gotta do is type in terminal the word make. then type the two words SUDO MAKE INSTALL, thats three words hehe [10:05] iconmefisto: :) [10:05] teage: ./configure first! [10:06] teage: i looked it up ;) [10:06] jastor: oh yeah [10:06] lol [10:06] ./configure, then make, then sudo make install [10:07] kubuntu has babl-0.0.0 ... ive added all the sites in sources.list and updated .. yet i dont see babl-0.1.0 :P [10:07] I'm still trying to get to the dir [10:07] Does anyone know why kde wants to remove my nvidia? it asks me on every boot up for some reason. [10:08] Zoot365: youre using firefox? [10:08] Yes but not to do this. [10:08] Zoot365: if you havent specified where to download to .. its in /home//Downloads/ [10:08] Zoot365: or should be atleast [10:09] Zoot365: no i mean ;) you probably used firefox to download the .tar.bz2 file :) [10:09] finally :P the livedvd is finished === Malin_away is now known as Malin_ === orion_ is now known as Guest85233 [10:11] Yeah, found it. [10:12] Zoot365: when you type the ./configure, be sure to add the little dot before the slash. some programs are fine without it but to be on the safe side you should just do it anyway. [10:14] going to go uninstall 2.4 [10:15] teage: without the dot, it will look in root dir for a file called configure, which probably won't do anything since that file won't normally exist in that directory [10:15] iconmefisto: some do work without it though. [10:16] teage: without the dot but with just /configure ?? that can't work, unless there is a file in / named configure [10:17] iconmefisto: I often wondered what the little dot ment, you say its to specify root? I thought that is what the slash is for. [10:17] teage: no, the / specifies root. the dot specifies current directory [10:18] ic [10:18] . <-- current directory [10:18] .. <-- parent directory [10:18] idk, I just know that i have had some programs work without the dot. I dont know why, Just did in some cases. [10:19] ;) [10:20] iconmefisto: for example, when i run gooscan, I have to specify the dot ,/gooscan. If i run say fasttrack, i all i need to specify is /fasttrack.py with no dot. [10:21] is it possible to have "two" of the same directory? ie: /usr/bin ... if the file exists in the virtual /usr/bin load that one .. if it doesnt, look for it in the real /usr/bin .. if it exists in both .. prioritize the virtual one [10:22] ... hmm .. could do a bunch of ln :P .. but that feels .. awkward ;) [10:23] now im just being stupid :P [10:24] just add /virtualdir/usr/bin to the executable path before the real /usr/bin .. just dont remember what command it was ;) [10:25] jastor: I have no idea what you're saying. :) are you asking a question? or answering one? [10:25] I tried to unzip it but it gave me No such file or directory. [10:25] but its not just executables .. lib/ etc/ etc [10:25] iconmefisto: i asked a question .. but figured out how to solve it :) but then i came up with another problem :) [10:27] Zoot365: just right click the file. then choose extract here. [10:27] iconmefisto: i can "set up" virtual /usr/bin by adding them to PATH (/virtualdir/usr/bin;/usr/local/bin/;/usr/sbin etc.) .. but how would i do the same for lib/, etc/ and similiar directories? === makc is now known as Guest77164 [10:27] iconmefisto: in thoose cases i would probably have to do ln right? [10:27] done. [10:27] Zoot365: it will create a new file called what ever the program is called [10:28] done [10:28] teage: what step are we on? [10:29] jastor: yeah, wouldn't creating symlinks be more straightforward than adding locations to PATH? maybe I don't follow what you're doing [10:29] jastor: he was trying to extract it [10:29] teage: ok [10:29] jastor: i think he got it [10:30] I'v extracted it, now what? [10:30] type cd then hit the SPACEBAR. then drag the extracted file into terminal and hit enter [10:31] thats the easy lazy way which i am guilty [10:31]