[00:00] <genii> think43: If you want to have a custom set of icons you can put them in ~/.icons/    as well
[00:00] <terran4000> think43: did you try docky yet?
[00:01] <sithlord48> genii, no luck ... still got one finger ..
[00:04] <robin0800> sithlord48: its kcm-touchpad
[00:05] <sithlord48> robin0800, i don't have that...
[00:05] <sithlord48> robin0800, kde 4.3.5
[00:06] <robin0800> sithlord48: no you have to install it
[00:06] <think43> terran4000: No, let me see, i think I did a search in the package management and it was there
[00:06] <terran4000> think43: to get docky you'll have to add a new repo :-P
[00:06] <sithlord48> robin0800, do you know the package cause i am not finding kcm-trackpad
[00:06] <terran4000> I found docky to be the best dock all around
[00:06] <think43> terran4000: oh, where is the howto onthat?
[00:07] <terran4000> think43: one sec, I'll get it to you
[00:07] <think43> terran4000: thanks
[00:07] <robin0800> sithlord48: its touchpad
[00:07] <terran4000> think43: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[00:07] <terran4000> add that
[00:07] <terran4000> at least I think that's the correct repo o.o
[00:08] <terran4000> if it is, let me know so I can comment my own source list :-P
[00:08] <think43> terran4000: I never did that before, just add to /etc/apt/souces.list, and apt-get update, and then go back to kpackagemanager
[00:08] <terran4000> yeah, just add it to sources.list
[00:08] <terran4000> then apt-get update
[00:08] <terran4000> and then apt-get install docky
[00:08] <terran4000> of course sudo first :)
[00:09] <sithlord48> robin0800,i found the repo
[00:13] <robin0800> sithlord48: sudo aptitude install kcm-touchpad is easier IMHO
[00:13] <think43> How do I edit sources.list, it is write protected?
[00:13] <sithlord48> robin0800, for some reason i can't find the package after adding th repo...
[00:13] <crimsun> think43: you generally need elevated privileges, e.g., using sudo/kdesudo
[00:14] <Stoney>  /quit
[00:14] <think43> crimsun: I tried sudo emacs /etc/apt/sources, but it didn't work
[00:14] <crimsun> think43: /etc/apt/sources isn't valid (by default)
[00:14] <crimsun> think43: i.e., it doesn't exist in a default install
[00:14] <terran4000> think43: easiest way for your to add a repo
[00:14] <robin0800> sithlord48: see comment above
[00:15] <terran4000> is to do it through the add and remove software thingy
[00:15] <sithlord48> robin0800, there is no package for karmic...
[00:15] <think43> crimsun
[00:15] <think43> crimsun: not sure what you mean
[00:15] <think43> crimsun: how do I add repo, cause I wanna install docky
[00:16] <crimsun> think43: generally, use add-apt-repository
[00:16] <think43> crimsun: thanks
[00:16] <think43> crimsun: but generaly, for future reference, how do I edit system files?
[00:17] <robin0800> sithlord48: https://launchpad.net/~mishaaq/+archive/ppa/
[00:18] <crimsun> think43: see above: use sudo/kdesudo (depending whether it's a cli or gui app)
[00:19] <think43> crimsun: ok thanks
[00:20] <sithlord48> robin0800, the jaunty version seams to work for karmic as well just had to dl and install w/ dpkg thanks
[00:29] <think43> say you wanna edit /etc/apt/sources.list, on debian, I used to do su, and then emacs /etc/apt/source.list, how do I do that on kubuntu
[00:33] <_nik_> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:33] <_nik_> or just sudo nano /etc/...
[00:34] <think43> _nik_: ok, it doesn't work with emacs eh?
[00:34] <_nik_> depands on which editor you prefer
[00:34] <_nik_> have you emacs installed?
[00:35] <think43> _nik_: yeah
[00:35] <_nik_> try it with emacs
[00:35] <_nik_> it's the same syntax
[00:35] <_nik_> kdesudo for gui-programms
[00:35] <think43> _nik_: there we go, its working now, I could swear I did the same thing before, let me scroll back and see
[00:36] <think43> oh, I only did su, not sudo
[00:59] <think43> Anyone find an Ubuntu package for lqde docker?
[01:01] <werber> I've downloaded a .ko file that enables my wireless; but I have to "insmod" it after every reboot. I am new to linux, but understand basics. Can anyone guide me through loading this module at boot?
[01:02] <werber> I've tried to add an entry in /lib/modules/version/modules.order pointing to the file, but that didn't seem to work.
[01:07] <werber> Would anyone mind helping me out? I'm a Linux newb and trying to get a downloaded driver to load at startup; I could write a shell script that would do it easily enough, but I want to do things "correctly".
[01:13] <jamesey> hey people
[01:13] <jamesey> do you know good place to ask simple mysql query ?
[01:16] <claydoh> werber: what type of wireless card? maybe someone here with similar hardware can suggest the best way to get you up and running
[01:16] <werber> It'
[01:17] <werber> It's a Broadcom 4322; I actually downloaded a driver from Broadcom which works; it's just that I have to manually load the driver after every reboot, by typing "insmod wl.ko" (wl.ko is the name of the driver); I'd like to avoid that if possible.
[01:18] <werber> I mean, it's easy enough to type one line at the Konsole; but I'm a tech guy that's new to Linux...and I'd really like to learn the details, if possible.
[01:18] <werber> Jamesey: I'm not a SQL pro or anything, but maybe I can help. What's the query you have in mind?
[01:22] <werber> Kind of a dead chatroom, huh?
[01:29] <jamesey> hey
[01:29] <jamesey> I have pretty simple query
[01:29] <jamesey> that for some reason dont want to show correct ouput
[01:29] <jamesey> I have 2 tables
[01:30] <jamesey> first has field1 with timestamp in varchar(10) type field
[01:30] <jamesey> second is field2 tinyint(3)type wiwth number of days
[01:30] <jamesey> query is like:
[01:31] <jamesey> SELECT t1.field1, t2.field2, field1+field2*24*3600 as OUTPUT
[01:31] <jamesey> I need go get field1 + number of days from field2
[01:32] <jamesey> and that doesn't work...
[01:44] <teage> Is create link to applincation in kubuntu 9.10 the same as creat new launcher in ubuntu 9.10?
[01:45] <maco> teage: create link makes a symlink to the one in /usr/share/applications. so you cant edit it without sudo
[01:45] <teage> ic
[01:45] <maco> there's also "copy" i think. that's like "create new launcher" in ubuntu
[01:45] <teage> thanx
[01:45] <maco> teage: get that part too?
[01:46] <teage> yes i did
[01:53] <teage> How does this chat work? I mean, what is Operator? and are you all just ordinary users with some know how to share? or are you Official kubuntu/Ubuntu reps?
[01:53] <Daughain> teage: Yes.
[01:54] <teage> Daughain: Yes to what? which part of my question ?
[01:54] <kaddi_> teage we're users with some know how to shares. I believe that a couple of the operators are employed by ubuntu, but i'm not sure
[01:55] <kaddi_> or in my case useres with many questions to ask :p
[02:00] <teage> ok, one question that bugs me is, why is it that i have to specify the ./ in some programs. I mean take for instance, gooscan, Im in the directory and the program is called "gooscan" not ./gooscan
[02:02] <kaddi_> . is the folder you are currently in. so basically if you do ./gooscan it reads as gooscan in currentfolder. I would expect them to be identical honestly
[02:03] <teage> Yes, I would too
[02:03] <teage> But sure enough.
[02:03] <teage> they are not
[02:04] <teage> even the examples show "gooscan" and then the argument
[02:04] <teage> but if you simply type just gooscan i will get an error
[02:05] <teage> I have to specify ./
[02:05] <teage> then it works
[02:07] <kaddi_> teage:  easiest reason I can think of is, that if you use a command in konsole, then konsole will look in the folders specified in path for that command. if it does not find it in those folders, it will throw an error
[02:07] <kaddi_> when you use ./ then you give a complete path of the file and konsole needs not look at the path variable
[02:10] <lucitu> teage: because your current directory is not in your path
[02:11] <teage> ic
[02:11] <lucitu> if it is like /usr/bin, then you don't need ./
[02:12] <teage> Its not a big deal or anything, Just that it threw me for a loop till i figured out i had to add the ./
[02:13] <kaddi_> does anyone else gut flash freezing in konqueror after pausing a video?
[02:16] <teage> I only have problems when desktop effects are enabled.
[02:17] <kaddi_> teage: ah I might check that out. could be related. i have desktop effects enabled
[02:18] <lucitu> teage: ./ is a shortcut for current directory
[02:19] <teage> kaddi: For me, desktop effects run smooth under gnome, but with kde i have problems. I wish i could have wobbly windows.
[02:19] <teage> kde makes up for it though, at least for me it does
[02:20] <kaddi_> teage: i have no problems with desktop effects currently *knock on wood* I have all kind of other problems though :p
[02:20] <kaddi_> but kde rocks, i wouldn't give it up :)
[02:20] <kaddi_> i lived through intel support in jaunty, I'll survive that as well :p
[02:20] <teage> gnome gives me little freeze glitches and kde runs smooth.
[02:20] <lucitu> kaddi: no prob here with youtube
[02:20] <kaddi_> j/k
[02:21] <Daughain> I love kde, but dolphin doesnt like any of my systems.
[02:22] <kaddi_> lucitu: i watch a lot on wisevid.com and i get frequently greyed out window, after I pause the video for loading
[02:22] <lucitu> kaddi: let me try that
[02:22] <teage> kaddi: are you using konquerer
[02:22] <kaddi_> teage yes
[02:22] <teage> hmmm
[02:23] <teage> i use firefox for most of my stuff, its faster. donwquer has nice tools so i keep them both close
[02:23] <kaddi_> lucitu: actually it could also be the flash ads and not the video that cause the problem..
[02:23] <lucitu> kaddi: just tried it and no problem
[02:24] <lucitu> it's on pause right now
[02:24] <lucitu> btw i'm on lucid
[02:24] <lucitu> 64-bit
[02:24] <kaddi_> ah, I'm still on karmic and 32bit
[02:25] <kaddi_> lol, probably not the best basis to look for someone to reproduce it :p
[02:25] <teage> lucitu: can you still use all the same apps with 64?
[02:25] <lucitu> kaddi: absolutely
[02:25] <Logan_Lockwood> Hi
[02:26] <teage> lucitu: whats the main difference? graphics?
[02:26] <Logan_Lockwood> How could I make in Dolphin folders NOT show their content?
[02:26] <kaddi_> anyhow killing nspluginviewer off and reload the page usually fixes the problem. I even think the video continues to load after the flash-window is greyed out
[02:26] <lucitu> kaddi: a lot snappier..never looked back since 4yrs
[02:26] <kaddi_> lucitu: teage is asking about 64bit :p
[02:27] <lucitu> kaddi: ooo sorry
[02:27] <kaddi_> no problem ;)
[02:27] <kaddi_> just thought I'd mention it ;)
[02:27] <lucitu> teage: yes 64-bit is a lot snappier
[02:28] <lucitu> teage: never looked back since I used it 4 yrs back
[02:29] <kaddi_> flash's been getting a lot of negative publicity on 64bit the last years, no? Is it working now?
[02:29] <lucitu> kaddi: why are u using nspluginwrapper if you are using 32-bit?
[02:30] <kaddi_> lucitu: good question, I've never really used konqueror much.. just used it over the week-end (and today) cause I wanted to save my Firefox session unchanged :p
[02:31] <lucitu> kaddi: flash has been 64-bit native for quite sometime
[02:32] <lucitu> and it's very good
[02:32] <kaddi_> he, nice :)
[02:32] <teage> has anyone tried lxyde? thats like a mini kde right?
[02:32] <kaddi_> i'll probably do a reformat for lucid, wanna give grub2 and ext4 a try and i'll probably do an upgrade to 64bit as well
[02:33] <teage> I am gonna try running it on my old x-box
[02:33] <lucitu> listen to your box..if it's 64-bit cpu then go 64-bit
[02:34] <lucitu> taege: did u mean lxde?
[02:34] <teage> lucitu:yes
[02:34] <kaddi_> lucitu: it is. and it even has 4Gb of RAM in it now.. I've just been waiting for the right occasion ;)
[02:34] <teage> lucitu: how do you listen to yer box
[02:35] <lucitu> teage: i mean don't listen to fud about 64-bit
[02:36] <teage> How do you check if you have 64bit capibility?
[02:36] <lucitu> kaddi: my lap is an old compaq..2G ram ati xpress200m and composting is funtastic with plain vanilla radeon driver
[02:37] <lucitu> teage: uname -a
[02:37] <kaddi_> lucitu: yeah, very very sadly I have intel chips on my laptop and that has not been to well supported the last couple of month
[02:37] <kaddi_> it was fine back in intrepid
[02:38] <iconmefisto> teage: are you asking how to check if you have 64bit installed? or how to check if you have a 64bit processor?
[02:38] <teage> dose not say anything about 32 bit or 64 bit
[02:38] <lucitu> teage: you shud see something like x86_64
[02:38] <teage> hmmm
[02:39] <teage> here is the outcome-   teage@teage:~$ uname -a
[02:39] <teage> Linux teage 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:39] <lucitu> u have a 32-bit
[02:39] <lucitu> kernel
[02:40] <iconmefisto> teage: lshw -C cpu   will give you info about your processor. more than likely it is 64bit, unless it's really old
[02:40] <lucitu> teage: lshw will show your hardware
[02:41] <teage> there is a part that says width: 64 bits
[02:41] <teage> is what i am looking for right?
[02:41] <lucitu> teage: that's it.. you have 64-bit cpu
[02:41] <kaddi_> i has a 32bit cpu on my old laptop :p I found out when i tried to installed a 64bit OS the other day :p
[02:42] <teage> i will try the 64
[02:42] <teage> is there a way of upgrading to 64 without loosing my current install?
[02:42] <lucitu> teage: no
[02:42] <teage> darn!!
[02:43] <lucitu> teage: how big is your HD?
[02:43] <lucitu> you can create a separate partition
[02:43] <teage> 164 gig
[02:43] <kaddi_> lucitu: what would be the minimum size suggested for a 64bit install?
[02:43] <lucitu> that's more than enough
[02:44] <lucitu> 10 gig is more than enough
[02:45] <kaddi_> k, i should be able to find that space somewhere :p I suppose that means I should store /home on a different partition, though?
[02:45] <NikofTime> hey guys! and gals i guess
[02:45] <xiven> Hello
[02:45] <NikofTime> all the gals in the room HOLLA!!!
[02:45] <kaddi_> hi NikofTime .9
[02:46] <xiven> I was wondering if there are any KDE Linux projects that need a hand in development, or have been discontinued with an interest in revival?
[02:46] <lucitu> kaddi: if you want yes
[02:46] <NikofTime> yo kaddi_ !
[02:46] <NikofTime> hey guys
[02:46] <iconmefisto> xiven: you mean you want to volunteer?
[02:46] <NikofTime> so i have been "obtaining" some discographies on torrent
[02:47] <NikofTime> and some of the filenames contain characters like that ae together and some other symbols that make the files imposible to move/rename/delete
[02:50] <teage> thanx for all the help ppl. goin to bed. see ya.
[03:28] <tbone00> hello world
[03:39] <seraphicphenakis> w0rd
[03:48] <Daughain> Need to set up an XP VM, any suggestions where to start?
[03:48] <think43> If you run kubuntu, you cannot install gnome?
[03:48] <Daughain> think43: You can run both, yes.
[03:49] <Daughain> think43: If oyu are in kubuntu, its apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, as I recall.
[03:49] <think43> Daughain: hmm, I get an error when I try: gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: fast-user-switch-applet (>= 2.22.0) but it is not installable
[03:49] <think43> Daughain: oh, I see
[03:49] <Daughain> think43: Ya, you need to install the environ before you can run it. =z)
[03:50] <think43> Daughain: You know, I had debian on here, and then when I installed Kubuntu, it kept some of my previous kde 4 settings, but I was expecting it to be formatted
[03:51] <Daughain> think43: Couldnt tell ya. Though, I;ve seen some equaly strange things happen. =)
[03:52] <Daughain> think43: I beleive te install looks to see what is already on the system, and leaves that alone, least thats how my experience makes it look.
[03:54] <think43> Daughain: yeah, it checked and copied settings, and then formatted and installed over after that
[03:54] <think43> Daughain: I was surprised
[03:54]  * Daughain nods.
[03:54] <Daughain> SO was I. =) I was expecting to have to rebuild everything.
[03:58] <think43> it was just some settings
[03:59] <Daughain> think43: For me it was a lot more than that, but, I was also doing a reinstall.
[04:00] <think43> Daughain: it is quite awesome, but what if you re-installing cause you screwed up all the setting, and you want to go back to defaults. :(
[04:01] <Daughain> think43: No, I managed to delete something I shouldnt have. =)
[04:01] <Daughain> My settings were fine.
[04:01] <Daughain> One of the problems you can encouter in removing stuff via synaptics, if ya arent careful
[04:01] <think43> Daughain: really, in Linux systems, you should never re-install, it is supposed to outlive its hardware
[04:02] <Daughain> think43: I;ve been using linux for 2 months. :P
[04:02] <Daughain> When I delete something and all I can access is cli, I need to reinstall.
[04:02] <think43> Daughain: Things can get messy though, so I prefer re-installing
[04:03]  * Daughain nods.
[04:04] <think43> I was on debian, and then I moved to backports, then I put testing kde 4, then I said, might as well dist upgrade, but it wouldn't work.  I bet a pro could get it upgraded a lot easier than re-installing, but for me, to make pro move take 100 mistake, and two days before it works, and a re-install  is just 35mins
[04:04] <Daughain> Looking into VM right now.
[04:05] <Daughain> think43: Ya, I dont ecen have enough background right now to even try making it work, so, I have no other option, no worries though. =)
[04:05] <think43> Now I am on Kubuntu, cause I wanted kde 4 which is awesome, but I want avant-window-navigator even more, and I think it works better on gnome, so I am downloading ubuntu
[04:06] <Daughain> Actually, its just the interface that changes.......I ALWAYS install ubuntu then add kde, so, not exactly sure how to install gnome from kde. =O
[04:06] <think43> Daughain: you know one thing you will realize which wasn't so obvious to me in the beginning.  The bulk of setting up Linux, is installing.  And in Ubuntu, thats sudo apt-get install what-ever
[04:07] <think43> Daughain: I should just apt-get install gnome, but I wanna do it from a basic install for some reason
[04:07] <Daughain> think43: Ya, that much I;ve already figiured out.=) I;ve even managed to figure ut how to reove thinga too. =)
[04:08] <think43> Daughain: ya, apt-get remove, also, apt-get remove --purge, if you wanna apt-get install again for default settings
[04:08]  * Daughain nods.
[04:09] <Daughain> Right now I'd like to know why dolphin doesnt seem to like my systems.
[04:10] <Daughain> it locks up the desktop so bad I had to switch back to nautilus.
[04:12] <think43> Daughain: as soon as you open it?
[04:12] <Daughain> No, but if I try and do anything in it like moving or copying files.
[04:12] <Daughain> it crashes a decent amount on this system too, but not as badly.
[04:13] <think43> Daughain: why don't you do what I mentioned about, apt-get remove --purge, and reinstall with apt-get install
[04:13] <think43> Daughain: I think that happened to me too
[04:13] <Daughain> The desktop is a fresh install, only edits were to fstab to mount a secondary hd and a LAN share.
[04:14] <think43> Daughain: and where are the copies to?  Can you do the exact same copies on the command line fine?
[04:14] <Daughain> think43: I hAVENT MASTERED USING CLI TO COPY OR MOVE FILES YET.
[04:14] <Daughain> Sorry for the caps.
[04:16] <think43> Daughain: it is easy, you just do $cp source-file destination.  So say I have a file in /home/think43/some-file.txt, and I wanna move to another drive like /old-home/tp43/Desktop/backups, Then I would do $cp /home/think43/some-file.txt /old-home/tp43/Desktop/backups
[04:17] <Daughain> Easy for you to say. :P I still am not sure where all the files are, and, in some cases they are on the lan.
[04:17] <think43> if you are in /home/think43 already, then you can just do $cp some-file.txt /old-home/tp43/Desktop/backups
[04:17] <think43> Daughain: oh
[04:17] <think43> brb
[05:14] <torasuku_> I'm getting 0 of 0 connected peers on my torrents that have ~100 seeders, any help?
[05:58] <ilumi> torasuku_: firewall?, what torrent client?
[06:31] <mistrynitesh> hello all
[06:32] <mistrynitesh> which is the best way to get myself addressed without spamming the channel?
[06:44] <iconmefisto> mistrynitesh: what do you mean by "get myself addressed"?
[06:57] <kmh_> afd
[07:15] <hardik_> can any one tell me that how to sync. blackbarry 9530 strom in ubuntu
[07:44] <mistrynitesh> iconmefisto: i wanted someone to call out my name just as you did, but I did not want to spam the channel
[07:51] <titan_ark> has the bug in the powermanagement daemon been rwctified as yet?
[07:51] <titan_ark> *rectified
[07:52] <titan_ark> everytime my notebook wakes up after going into sleep i am told there is no battery plugged in
[08:06] <GabrielSOE> can I install ubuntu 9.10 on usb drive to boot with ?
[08:07] <tsimpson> !usb
[08:07] <tsimpson> !install
[08:07] <iconmefisto> GabrielSOE: use USB startup startup disk creator
[08:09] <GabrielSOE> iconmefisto: please elaborate i'm still a newbe
[08:09] <iconmefisto> GabrielSOE: it's a program, should already be installed. look in system submenu, or just alt-F2 and start typing "usb startup"
[08:10] <GabrielSOE> iconmefisto: not installed, I'll get it
[08:11] <iconmefisto> !info usb-creator-kde
[08:11] <iconmefisto> GabrielSOE: install that package. usb-creator-kde
[08:12] <GabrielSOE> iconmefisto: doing so now, thanks m8
[08:17] <GabrielSOE> iconmefisto: done got it (usb)
[09:08] <rethus> i search a good unpacker for kubuntu.. normaly i use ark... and on suse, ark unpack nearly all files ...like .gz, .rar and so on... now he has problems with .gz and rar..
[09:08] <rethus> what have i to install to support nealry all package-formats?
[09:11] <nicoco> hi
[09:11] <nicoco> thing and now it won't launch
[09:12] <nicoco> is there a way to start with a new clean postgresql install ? the upgrade from 8.3 to 8.4 messed up every
[09:12] <nicoco> wow
[09:17] <Kolia> you swaped your lines :)
[09:23] <turtle^s0up> hi all
[09:23] <turtle^s0up> i just wanted to say
[09:24] <turtle^s0up> damn my kubuntu karmic desktop looks and feels sexy
[09:24] <kinja-sheep> Hi folks -- What is the package/process for KDE panel?
[09:27] <turtle^s0up> kinja-sheep: i think it's part of plasma-desktop process
[09:28] <kinja-sheep> turtle^s0up: Do you know which package is that? (Ie, running KDE plasma-desktop in openbox and such).
[09:31] <turtle^s0up> kinja-sheep: just to install the kde panel, i would think it would depend on plasma-desktop, not sure
[09:32] <manolis> Good morning all!
[09:32] <papul> hi. how do i use kde panel with openbox?
[09:32] <manolis> :-) sry .. don't know!
[09:32] <soee> hi
[09:33] <manolis> Hi
[09:33] <turtle^s0up> kinja-sheep: why not use other panels
[09:34] <kinja-sheep> turtle^s0up: I'm assisting somebody in #ubuntu -- I think that was kdebase-workspace-bin
[09:34] <papul> kinja-sheep, i am here too :)
[09:35] <kinja-sheep> papul: You sly fox.
[09:35] <papul> :P
[09:35] <Zoot365> Good morning
[09:36] <turtle^s0up> papul: i think panels like lxpanel, tint, and other lightweights would fit in better than kde's panel
[09:38] <papul> turtle^s0up, some other options
[09:38] <papul> please
[09:38] <kinja-sheep> Docks!
[09:39] <jastor> im making my usbstick into a livedvd with usb-creator-kde .. i checked the persistent option. just wondering: is it just the /home and /root directories thats persistent? or any extra program you install too?
[09:42] <papul> turtle^s0up, some other options please
[09:42] <papul> for panels
[09:44] <turtle^s0up> papul: tint2, fbpanel, pypanel, bmpanel
[09:44] <turtle^s0up> papul: tint2 looks the best
[09:45] <Zoot365> is this the place to be if I'm a new user kubuntu user looking for a clue?
[09:46] <jastor> Zoot365: probably :)
[09:49] <Zoot365> I've done some simple game mod scripting, but t now I'm being asked to compile gimp-gap.  I'm over my head.
[09:50] <jastor> Zoot365: you specifically mean compile? or just install?
[09:51] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: there's a pre-compiled gimp-gap package you can install. do you need to compile it with special options or something?
[09:51] <jastor> Zoot365: sudo apt-get install gimp-gap    for the precompiled one
[09:52] <Zoot365> I couldn't find it in kpackagekit so I assune I have to compile it.
[09:52] <iconmefisto> !info gimp-gap
[09:53] <jastor> Zoot365: open a terminal and type that sudo apt-get ....  i wrote
[09:53] <Zoot365> sec
[09:54] <jastor> Zoot365: if it doesnt know the package .. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # before the deb http://.....  and deb-src http://...
[09:54] <jastor> Zoot365: and sudo apt-get update
[09:56] <teage> I started getting a message at log on, kde thinks it can remove nvidia. why would it say that.
[09:56] <teage> ?
[09:56] <Zoot365> it suggests that I have the latest version but I know its  Version 2.4.0-2ubuntu1 and that dosn't work.
[09:57] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: that is the version in ubuntu repos. which version do you need?
[09:58] <jastor> Zoot365: download ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/plug-ins/v2.6/gap .. extract somewhere .. and as root run ./configure
[09:59] <Zoot365> I have the gz for that here I'm just not sure what to do with it.
[09:59] <Zoot365> looking at it is no help.
[09:59] <Zoot365> I tried yelling too...
[09:59] <iconmefisto> lol
[09:59] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: have you unpacked it yet?
[10:00] <jastor> Zoot365: tar xvf gimp-gap-2.6.0.tar.bz2
[10:00] <Zoot365> Yep.  looked, yelled, nothing.
[10:01] <teage> Zoot365: or just right click , extract here. If you are lazy. :)
[10:02] <manolis> I hane a question ......
[10:02] <iconmefisto> !ask | manolis
[10:02] <manolis> I have an old laptop and I cannot use other kubuntu than 7.10
[10:02] <Zoot365> You say lazy like its a bad thing.
[10:03] <manolis> how to I change my repos so I can get some updates on this version!?
[10:03] <Zoot365> and heere is the folder. now what?
[10:03] <jastor> Zoot365: open a terminal .. go to the diectory (gimp-gap-2.6.0/) and: sudo ./configure
[10:03] <teage> Zoot365: If you are really lazy, you could , open terminal, right click the file, extract here , type cd in terminal , click on yer file and drag it to terminal then press enter
[10:03] <jastor> not sure if sudo is required for ./configure ;)
[10:04] <teage> Zoot365: nope its not a bad thing. How you think i know this. lol
[10:04] <jastor> havent compiled any programs in ages :)
[10:04] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: maybe you should uninstall the 2.4 version first. not sure
[10:05] <jastor> iconmefisto: doesnt it just overwrite when make install ?
[10:05] <iconmefisto> jastor: not quite sure, but it won't hurt to remove the older one first
[10:05] <teage> Zoot365: if you do that what i said you will be in that dirrectory, then all you gotta do is type in terminal the word make. then type the two words SUDO MAKE INSTALL, thats three words hehe
[10:05] <jastor> iconmefisto: :)
[10:05] <jastor> teage: ./configure first!
[10:06] <jastor> teage: i looked it up ;)
[10:06] <teage> jastor: oh yeah
[10:06] <teage> lol
[10:06] <teage> ./configure, then make, then sudo make install
[10:07] <jastor> kubuntu has babl-0.0.0 ... ive added all the sites in sources.list and updated .. yet i dont see babl-0.1.0 :P
[10:07] <Zoot365> I'm still trying to get to the dir
[10:07] <teage> Does anyone know why kde wants to remove my nvidia? it asks me on every boot up for some reason.
[10:08] <jastor> Zoot365: youre using firefox?
[10:08] <Zoot365> Yes but not to do this.
[10:08] <jastor> Zoot365: if you havent specified where to download to .. its in /home/<yourusername>/Downloads/
[10:08] <jastor> Zoot365: or should be atleast
[10:09] <jastor> Zoot365: no i mean ;) you probably used firefox to download the .tar.bz2 file :)
[10:09] <jastor> finally :P the livedvd is finished
[10:11] <Zoot365> Yeah, found it.
[10:12] <teage> Zoot365: when you type the ./configure, be sure to add the little dot before the slash. some programs are fine without it but to be on the safe side you should just do it anyway.
[10:14] <Zoot365> going to go uninstall 2.4
[10:15] <iconmefisto> teage: without the dot, it will look in root dir for a file called configure, which probably won't do anything since that file won't normally exist in that directory
[10:15] <teage> iconmefisto: some do work without it though.
[10:16] <iconmefisto> teage: without the dot but with just /configure ?? that can't work, unless there is a file in / named configure
[10:17] <teage> iconmefisto: I often wondered what the little dot ment, you say its to specify root? I thought that is what the slash is for.
[10:17] <iconmefisto> teage: no, the / specifies root. the dot specifies current directory
[10:18] <teage> ic
[10:18] <jastor> . <-- current directory
[10:18] <jastor> .. <-- parent directory
[10:18] <teage> idk, I just know that i have had some programs work without the dot. I dont know why, Just did in some cases.
[10:19] <jastor> ;)
[10:20] <teage> iconmefisto: for example, when i run gooscan, I have to specify the dot ,/gooscan. If i run say fasttrack, i all i need to specify is /fasttrack.py with no dot.
[10:21] <jastor> is it possible to have "two" of the same directory? ie: /usr/bin   ... if the file exists in the virtual /usr/bin load that one .. if it doesnt, look for it in the real /usr/bin .. if it exists in both .. prioritize the virtual one
[10:22] <jastor> ... hmm .. could do a bunch of ln :P .. but that feels .. awkward ;)
[10:23] <jastor> now im just being stupid :P
[10:24] <jastor> just add /virtualdir/usr/bin  to the executable path before the real /usr/bin .. just dont remember what command it was ;)
[10:25] <iconmefisto> jastor: I have no idea what you're saying. :) are you asking a question? or answering one?
[10:25] <Zoot365> I tried to unzip it but it gave me No such file or directory.
[10:25] <jastor> but its not just executables .. lib/ etc/ etc
[10:25] <jastor> iconmefisto: i asked a question .. but figured out how to solve it :) but then i came up with another problem :)
[10:27] <teage> Zoot365: just right click the file. then choose extract here.
[10:27] <jastor> iconmefisto: i can "set up" virtual /usr/bin by adding them to PATH (/virtualdir/usr/bin;/usr/local/bin/;/usr/sbin etc.) .. but how would i do the same for lib/, etc/ and similiar directories?
[10:27] <jastor> iconmefisto: in thoose cases i would probably have to do ln right?
[10:27] <Zoot365> done.
[10:27] <teage> Zoot365: it will create a new file called what ever the program is called
[10:28] <Zoot365> done
[10:28] <jastor> teage: what step are we on?
[10:29] <iconmefisto> jastor: yeah, wouldn't creating symlinks be more straightforward than adding locations to PATH? maybe I don't follow what you're doing
[10:29] <teage> jastor: he was trying to extract it
[10:29] <jastor> teage: ok
[10:29] <teage> jastor: i think he got it
[10:30] <Zoot365> I'v extracted it, now what?
[10:30] <teage> type cd then hit the SPACEBAR. then drag the extracted file into terminal and hit enter
[10:31] <teage> thats the easy lazy way which i am guilty
[10:31] <jastor> iconmefisto: i got a usbstick with programs, settings etc. i mount it to /virtualdir/ if you run a program i want it to see if it exists in /virtualdir/usr/bin first .. and if it does .. run that one .. instead of the standard program in /usr/bin .. PATH seems to me be the only way to tell it in which order to look in directories for the executable
[10:32] <teage> Zoot365: did you do it
[10:33] <jastor> iconmefisto: for using ln to map the programs in virtualdir/usr/bin can generate errors since the program probably alread exists in /usr/bin
[10:33] <iconmefisto> jastor: ok, I see. yeah, adding /virtualdir/usr/bin to PATH makes sense
[10:33] <Zoot365> Wow that was nuts.  its done.
[10:34] <jastor> Zoot365: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[10:34] <Zoot365> k
[10:34] <jastor> iconmefisto: and for /virtualdir/lib/ and /virtualdir/etc/ i do a ln for thoose specific files instead (by writing a small script)
[10:37] <iconmefisto> jastor: why not add those locations to path as well?
[10:37] <jastor> iconmefisto: i thought PATH only was executables? :)
[10:37] <jastor> iconmefisto: but if thats possible that would be great
[10:37] <jastor> was for*
[10:39] <Zoot365> cd: /home/michael/Downloads/gimp-gap_2.6.0+dfsg.orig.tar.gz: Not a directory
[10:39] <jastor> the reason for all this .. is to be able to install and update programs on a system which you cant really modify .. by installing them to a usbstick instead
[10:39] <jastor> Zoot365: didnt you unpack first?
[10:40] <Zoot365> oops wrong file...
[10:40] <jastor> Zoot365: ;)
[10:40] <teage> Zoot365:lol
[10:41] <Zoot365> yeah, its configureing.
[10:41] <Zoot365> now make?
[10:41] <jastor> Zoot365: yes
[10:42] <jastor> Zoot365: and when make is done (as long as there arent any errors) do: sudo make install
[10:43] <Zoot365> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:43] <teage> Zoot365: the reason for make is you have to make the installer.
[10:43] <teage> oh
[10:43] <teage> is it a python program? what are you installing?
[10:44] <Zoot365> gimp.gap.
[10:45] <Zoot365> This had been great. I now that there are a couple of things Ihave to do...
[10:45] <teage> open up the file that you extracted and look to see if you see a file called make or anything with a .py at the end
[10:45] <teage> i dont think gimp is python is it?
[10:46] <Zoot365> unfortunately, thats a good question.
[10:46] <teage> if it is a python program , which it sounds like it is . then the install commands would be different
[10:48] <jastor> ah ok
[10:48] <jastor> Zoot365: ./autogen.sh
[10:48] <teage> Zoot365: if you open the extracted file and see anything with a .py at the end then it is indeed a python program.
[10:48] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: sounds like you are not in the directory that you just expanded from the .gz file
[10:48] <jastor> you use ./autogen.sh   for gimp-gap .. which in itself runs ./configure
[10:49] <teage> gotta go to work. hope everything works out Zoot365
[10:49] <Zoot365> Me too thanks
[10:50] <jastor> Zoot365: any luck with autogen?
[10:50] <Zoot365> sec
[10:52] <Zoot365> michael@Bob:~/Downloads/gimp-gap-2.6.0+dfsg.orig$ ./autogen.sh
[10:52] <Zoot365> bash: ./autogen.sh: No such file or directory
[10:52] <jastor> hmm
[10:53] <Zoot365> looks loke ./configure is working.
[11:04] <Zoot365> there don't seem to be any python files in the gimp-gap file.
[11:05] <Zoot365> ummm... folder
[11:11] <vlt> Hello. I get a broken package when runnning `aptitude update` on several LTS machines: "language-pack-kde-de depends on language-pack-kde-de-base (>= 1:8.04+20100117) [UNAVAILABLE]"
[11:11] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: you could install the lucid gimp-gap 2.6.0 version in .deb form http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gimp-gap
[11:12] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: that might be easier to install
[11:13] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: but you'll probably need to install this one too: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libatk1.0-0
[11:18] <Zoot365> whats the difference between the lucid and the one I have?
[11:19] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: those links point to files that are .deb which are already packaged and ready to install
[11:22] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: lucid is the next ubuntu version (after karmic) and the gimp-gap version for it is the one you are trying to install
[11:23] <Zoot365> do I want tar or 1build1?
[11:25] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: links are at the bottom of the page. choose either amd64 or i386
[11:27] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: do you know if you have 64bit or 32bit kubuntu installed
[11:27] <timo> hello can evrybody help my
[11:28] <Zoot365> 32
[11:28] <timo> help me my sound dont work i dont know why when i start my pc he plays a start melodie but when i play a song in youtube he dont play a song
[11:29] <timo> evrybody knows this problem ????
[11:29] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: then you need http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/gimp-gap/download and http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/libatk1.0-0/download
[11:30] <Zoot365> ooo self installers
[11:30] <timo> some one here to help me please???
[11:30] <Zoot365> do I install atk firat?
[11:30] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: I just installed those, but I had to install libatk1.0-0 first
[11:31] <Zoot365> k
[11:31] <_nik_> timo: have you pushed up the pcm in kmix?
[11:32] <timo> pcm i dont know i look
[11:32] <timo> pcm or pcm2
[11:33] <_nik_> pcm
[11:33] <timo> _nik_: no i do this
[11:33] <timo> and then i pushed ok ?
[11:33] <_nik_> yes
[11:34] <timo> bevor pcm was line
[11:34] <timo> what means line ??
[11:34] <_nik_> hm?
[11:34] <timo> is line a mic?
[11:35] <iconmefisto> timo: line is a line input, mic is a microphone input (more sensitive input than line)
[11:35] <timo> _nik_:  pcm is on but i dont have sound
[11:36] <timo> iconmefisto: ok
[11:36] <_nik_> on 100%?
[11:36] <timo> _nik_: yes hundret prozent
[11:37] <timo> _nik_:  but the sound dont work
[11:37] <timo> _nik_: this make me crazi
[11:37] <_nik_> just with flash?
[11:37] <timo> with all
[11:38] <timo> _nik_:  wiht all
[11:38] <_nik_> you dont have to configur pcm as standad
[11:38] <_nik_> *standard
[11:39] <timo> i dont know i klicked on pcm an then i kliked ok
[11:39] <_nik_> no
[11:39] <Zoot365> Yeahay.  that worked!!
[11:39] <_nik_> you changed the main audio channel
[11:40] <timo> yes the audio chanel thats right
[11:40] <iconmefisto> Zoot365: good news :)
[11:40] <_nik_> cancel that
[11:42] <_nik_> timo: you have to rightclick on kmix, than show volumecontrol
[11:42] <_nik_> and there put the pcm control up to 100%
[11:42] <timo> there are all 100%
[11:43] <dima> Hi, everyone. My browsers have started ignoring /etc/hosts file. It has worked before. What should I look at to make it work?
[11:43] <Zoot365> Ok, once i get my little animation of the bouncing ball, I'll post it :)
[11:44] <Zoot365> Tahnks loads.
[11:44] <timo> _nik_:there are all off 100%
[11:44] <_nik_> pcm too?
[11:44] <timo> there is not the name pcm
[11:44] <timo> _nik_:  ok pcm 100% to
[11:44] <_nik_> then you have to add it
[11:45] <_nik_> do you have sound again?
[11:45] <timo> no
[11:45] <timo> _nik_:  no sound
[11:45] <timo> _nik_: ;(
[11:46] <_nik_> just flash or no sound in e.g. amarok, too?
[11:46] <iconmefisto> _nik_: not all soundcards will have a channel called pcm
[11:47] <_nik_> iconmefisto: your right, but the most people who had problems with flashsound had pcm muted
[11:47] <_nik_> most people i kno
[11:47] <_nik_> w
[11:47] <timo> no sound flash or elsewhere
[11:48] <timo> my pcm is not mute
[11:48] <timo> what can i make knoe
[11:48] <iconmefisto> timo: in konsole, type: speaker-test
[11:48] <timo> know
[11:49] <iconmefisto> timo: see if you get any sound at all
[11:49] <timo> sudo speakertest
[11:49] <iconmefisto> timo: speaker-test
[11:49] <timo> iconmefisto:
[11:49] <timo> speaker-test 1.0.20
[11:49] <timo> Das Wiedergabegerät ist default
[11:49] <timo> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels
[11:49] <timo> Using 16 octaves of pink noise
[11:49] <FloodBotK2> timo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:49] <timo> Samplingrate auf 48000Hz gesetzt (gefordert waren 48000Hz)
[11:50] <iconmefisto> timo: did it make any sound?
[11:51] <_nik_> timo: hast du denn die einstellung von vorhin wieder rückgängig gemacht?
[11:51] <timo> yes when i start
[11:51] <_nik_> also das ändern des hauptkanals?
[11:51] <timo> _nik_:  welche einstelung denn
[11:51] <iconmefisto> timo: did you hear any sound with the speaker-test command?
[11:51] <_nik_> timo: du hast doch vorhin den hauptkanal geändert, richtig?
[11:51] <timo> nein das ist auf pcm jetzt vorher war es auf line
[11:52] <timo> ja das ist richtig
[11:52] <_nik_> dann stell es mal auf line zurück
[11:52] <timo> yes the speaker test play d melodie
[11:52] <timo> _nik_: ok
[11:52] <iconmefisto> guys, supposed to be english in here. maybe you could continue in the german channel?
[11:52] <timo> nik _nik_habe ich getan
[11:53] <iconmefisto> !de
[11:53] <timo> _nik_: nik  bist du auch in den deutschsprachigen kanal zu finden
[11:55] <timo> _nik_: whe i typ in konaole speaker-test  mein wieder gabe gerät ist fehlerhaft
[11:56] <timo> iconmefisto: what can i make know
[11:59] <timo> master \ master mono\ pcm \pcm2\line \cd\mic\aux\mono\mono2
[12:02] <timo> _nik_: hattest das prb auch mal mit dem souNd??? das kann ein echt ferig machen!!! gestern 3 stunden versucht und nichts ging
[12:03] <timo> when i would like to instal a paket then komes this
[12:03] <timo> Die Paketliste muss neu aufgebaut werden.
[12:03] <timo> Dies sollte normalerweise automatisch durch das Hintergrundprogramm erfolgen.
[12:05] <jussi01> !de | timo
[12:09] <timo> jussi01:  yes  i know sry
[12:10] <timo> no matter
[12:11] <jussi01> timo: yeah, was just a "for next time" :)
[12:22] <GabrielSOE> How can I change My login screen theme?
[12:24] <jussi01> GabrielSOE: system settings -> advanced -> login manager
[12:25] <jussi01> GabrielSOE: and note that its different between kdm and gdm, so make sure you are looking at instructions for the correct one
[12:44] <turtle^s0up> does anyone have a good color scheme for kate?
[12:48] <lala> hi, does flash work on kubuntu?
[12:49] <lala> or are there alternatives to recommend?
[12:50] <TheAncientGoat> lala: Flash does work
[12:50] <TheAncientGoat> !flash
[12:51] <lala> and are there any better players?
[12:51] <lala> cuz flash on mac is a fail
[12:51] <lala> and on windows too i bet
[12:51] <TheAncientGoat> Well, html5 is "better" but most websites use flash
[12:52] <lala> go on
[12:52] <TheAncientGoat> gnash is a open source implementation of flash, but it can't handle all types of flash sites...
[12:52] <TheAncientGoat> But other than that, what do you mean by a "player"?
[12:54] <lala> well, flash on mac sucks, on windows too i bet, and i heard that flash doesnt work properly on linux
[12:54] <lala> but talk about html5
[12:54] <TheAncientGoat> flash works perfectly on linux
[12:54] <TheAncientGoat> I've never had any problems with it, at least..
[12:54] <lala> and it cant suddenly suck up all ur memory?
[12:54] <TheAncientGoat> Oh, it can
[12:55] <lala> see thats annoying
[12:55] <TheAncientGoat> but its like that on mac win and linux :P
[12:55] <TheAncientGoat> html5 has the ability to play things like video and audio in your browser without any plugins.
[12:55] <lala> so i want something that can also play flashcontent, but cant suck up all ur memory
[12:56] <TheAncientGoat> lala: Well, then you can either use flash or gnash
[12:56] <TheAncientGoat> !gnash
[12:56] <lala> awesome, and does flash get used besides on the internet?
[12:56] <TheAncientGoat> But gnash cant play all forms of flash content
[12:56] <TheAncientGoat> lala: Not really, thank goodness
[12:56] <TheAncientGoat> Some games use it, but thats all that I can think of
[12:57] <lala> ok, so ill use html5 then in my browser :)
[12:57] <lala> yeah, but those games are mostly on the internet right? :p
[12:57] <TheAncientGoat> html5 cant play flash content
[12:57] <lala> aw man
[12:57] <lala> ill use gnash then
[12:58] <TheAncientGoat> But soon sites will use html 5 instead of flash..
[12:58] <lala> seriously?
[12:58] <TheAncientGoat> Well, soon as in a year or so :P
[12:58] <TheAncientGoat> Youtube has a html5 mode
[12:58] <lala> LOL? so every flashcontent will get replaced by html5? :D
[12:58] <TheAncientGoat> Most probably not, because people are stuck in their ways
[12:58] <lala> go on
[12:58] <TheAncientGoat> But hopefully most video sites will
[12:59] <TheAncientGoat> Dailymotion has had html5 support for a while
[12:59] <TheAncientGoat> But games and flash websites will most probably stay flash mainly
[13:00] <TheAncientGoat>  Just because they already know flash and dont want to learn anything new
[13:00] <lala> html5 has different coding compared to flash?
[13:01] <TheAncientGoat> Of course. Html 5 is, well HTML, the stuff you use to make webpages
[13:01] <lala> damn
[13:01] <TheAncientGoat> Flash uses its own scripting language called ActionScript, which isn't like html at all
[13:01] <lala> so there is no 100% alternative for flash
[13:02] <TheAncientGoat> Gnash attempts to be. In a while it might catch up
[13:02] <TheAncientGoat> But the thing is
[13:02] <TheAncientGoat> people should forget flash, because it's horrible by definition
[13:03] <lala> i hate it cuz of the memorysuck problem
[13:03] <TheAncientGoat> Html5 + javascript is the way to go
[13:04] <lala> ill keep using flash then on linux, until i get the news that gnash or any other alternative is 100%
[13:04] <TheAncientGoat> lala: Hate it because its an ugly proprietary format instead :P
[13:04] <lala> meh, u cant predict the future lol
[13:04] <lala> yeah, that too, its not GPL
[13:04] <TheAncientGoat> It being gpl or not doesn't matter
[13:04] <lala> but hey, skype aint GPL either, and there are a lot of linux users who use skype
[13:05] <lala> oh? :s
[13:05] <TheAncientGoat> there are lots of other licences that are as good or arguably better.. But it being an open standard is more important, and its not
[13:05] <lala> explain plz?
[13:06] <lala> whats an open std?
[13:06] <TheAncientGoat> skype is also a hog, in a similar sense to flash. But loads of linux users use both, because of their popularity
[13:06] <TheAncientGoat> lala: Well, the web has interoperability standards
[13:06] <lala> well, if u set the correct options for skype it wont be a supernode or whatever
[13:06] <lala> go on
[13:11] <TheAncientGoat> Standards are definitions of a technology made sothat multiple groups can make software that use that technology, and that those pieces of software interoperate well
[13:11] <TheAncientGoat> Like, take html for example
[13:11] <TheAncientGoat> there's a standard definition for a link
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[13:12] <TheAncientGoat> Now, if there wasnt a standard, one browser might say that <a> closes the browser while a different one might say that <a> makes something bold
[13:12] <lala> i understand
[13:13] <lala> so thats the reason why flash crashes and sucks memory and such? cuz the browsers cant handle it 100% (which isnt their fault, but the fault of adobe)?
[13:13] <TheAncientGoat> Flash crashes and sucks because adobe are lazy devs :P
[13:14] <TheAncientGoat> If flash was a standard
[13:14] <TheAncientGoat> many other people would have made their own flash plugins
[13:14] <TheAncientGoat> heck, browsers could build in flash support instead of having a plugin
[13:15] <TheAncientGoat> And the competition would have ensured that adobe stayed on their toes with features and the like
[13:15] <lala> ffs
[13:15] <lala> adobe has monopoly on the web with flashcontent like microsoft has with os's
[13:15] <lala> grrrrrrr
[13:16] <TheAncientGoat> Yup. And thats why html5 is trying to break that, by making a new standard that anyone can implement
[13:17] <lala> ok, so html5 will replace flash on popular sites like youtube, but sites which are from 1 person will still have flash cuz hes used to it
[13:19] <lala> so if u surf a lot, its best to have flash, for cases where gnash fails
[13:21] <TheAncientGoat> lala: Yes, pretty much
[13:21] <lala> k
[13:21] <lala> then some other questions about kubuntu and linux
[13:22] <lala> im gonna install kubuntu as my only OS on my pc, what do i have to do with grub and mbr and such?
[13:23] <TheAncientGoat> lala: A clean install? Because that should sort itself out automatically
[13:23] <lala> im gonna put kubuntu on my HDD
[13:23] <lala> so nothing else
[13:24] <lala> my HDD is 120GB, so ill have 1 partition of 120GB where ill install kubuntu on
[13:24] <turtle^s0up> lala: make a separate partition for /home, make that the largest
[13:25] <lala> why? :S
[13:25] <turtle^s0up> lala: that way when you have to do upgrade, reinstalls you still have your user configurations
[13:25] <lala> and what is /home btw? :s
[13:25] <daskreech> lala: leave Grub and MBR They work :)
[13:25] <turtle^s0up> lala: it's where you store you person files, settings, etc
[13:25] <daskreech> lala: you can make any file system map to any directory in UNIX
[13:26] <daskreech> So /home is the directory where all the User data lies. you are just separating it from the OS
[13:26] <lala> turtle^s0up, wtf? so ppl who have 1 partition and upgrade their kubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10 get the default settings of 9.10?
[13:26] <daskreech> If you want to blow away the OS or change it your data is preserved
[13:26] <lala> then how can my os access it?
[13:26] <daskreech> lala: It will :)
[13:26] <daskreech> it's like having a C: Drive and D: drive
[13:27] <daskreech> two different partitions but you can get to both
[13:27] <lala> ah
[13:27] <lala> i understand
[13:27] <daskreech> You won't even notice they are different
[13:27] <daskreech> it  just looks like a directory to you
[13:27] <lala> but its not user friendly from canonical that they give u the default settings of their newest version when u upgrade
[13:27] <turtle^s0up> lala: no, if the upgrades go well it's OK
[13:27] <lala> bbs, ok?
[13:27] <daskreech> lala: It's just how they work
[13:28] <lala> everybody stay here :p
[13:28] <lala> bbs
[13:28] <daskreech> Quick everyone hide!
[13:28] <turtle^s0up> lala: just go with one partition i guess, you'll understand after you've become more familiar
[13:28] <Tm_T> TheAncientGoat: lala feel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic too (:
[13:33] <turtle^s0up> is there a way to port an emacs color scheme to kate?
[13:33] <turtle^s0up> or is my best bet to go manually ?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[13:47] <daskreech> Hi BluesKaj
[13:47] <BluesKaj> hi daskreech
[13:49] <lala> im back
[13:49] <lala> how do i have to split my hard drive then? will the installer ask me for the /home thing?
[13:49] <daskreech> Yes
[13:49] <daskreech> When you get to the partitioning section just ask for help
[13:52] <lala> ... if i get to the partitioning section i cant get on the internet cuz im installing my OS...
[13:52] <TheAncientGoat> lala: Install it using the live installer
[13:52] <TheAncientGoat> you install while the os is running
[13:52] <lala> huh?
[13:52] <lala> can i do that? :o
[13:53] <TheAncientGoat> Yes, the wonders of linux :P
[13:53] <daskreech> The install is an install of the OS to a CD
[13:53] <TheAncientGoat> Just go "try out kubuntu without any change to my hardrive"
[13:53] <daskreech> so when you start it up you are already running the OS
[13:53] <daskreech> You can come here go on the net check your mail play games etc
[13:53] <TheAncientGoat> yup. and install the os
[13:53] <daskreech> So if you need help you can just open Quassel and come here and ask for help while installing
[13:54] <lala> i use xchat
[13:54] <ToxinPowe> xDD
[13:55] <daskreech> You can install xchat and use that
[13:55] <daskreech> before you install the OS
[13:55] <lala> woooooow
[13:56] <TheAncientGoat> lala: Makes you wonder why people still use windows, ey ;)
[13:56] <daskreech> I know why the do I just don't understand why so many do
[13:56] <lala> yeah TheAncientGoat
[13:56] <daskreech> But time will play all things out
[13:57] <lala> but!
[13:57] <lala> im sure not all linux users have 2 partitions, just 1 for everything. So they lose all their configuration settings when they upgrade? :O
[13:57] <lala> u must be joking
[13:58] <daskreech> There are at least 2 partitions
[13:58] <daskreech> one for / and one for swap
[13:58] <daskreech> You can make as many as you want
[13:58] <daskreech>  I have 4 on mine
[13:58] <BluesKaj> lala, only if they do a clean install
[13:58] <daskreech> lala: your personal configurations are kept in /home so you don't lose anything
[13:59] <daskreech> Your configurations are for the most part kept through all upgrades
[13:59] <daskreech> For most changes it will ask you if you want the new configs when there is an upgrade or if you would like to keep the ones you have
[14:00] <lala> aah, so the advice to make a second partition for /home is for when u install another os on the other partition, sorry for misunderstanding guys
[14:01] <timo> terran4000:  hy  i think i know why  my i have a sound problem
[14:01] <terran4000> timo: Hey timo my man!
[14:01] <terran4000> You have a sound problem? ek! What's wrong?
[14:01] <timo>  terran4000 hi
[14:01] <lala> so lets say i make /home a seperate partition, and i install windows on the other partition, then when i boot in windows, i can access my files? ^^
[14:02] <timo> the puls audi dont run
[14:02] <lala> or will it only work if the other OS is also Linux?
[14:03] <terran4000> lala: you will be access your linux files from windows only if you install the EXT3 file driver thingy ... ext3fs? or something like that ... also, it doesn't work from Windows 7
[14:03] <timo>  when i go to amerok  amerok dont play my musik because the audio puls dont run
[14:03] <terran4000> timo: Pulse Audio isn't working for you?
[14:03] <timo> thats right
[14:03] <timo>  but i dont knpw why
[14:04] <lala> ok, thank you
[14:04] <terran4000> timo: Hm, have you tried unmuting the audio in Kmix?
[14:04] <timo> yes
[14:04] <timo>  there is all ok
[14:04] <tendays> Hello everyone, quick question: There's a serious mistake in the French translation of konversation, where should I report it?
[14:05] <terran4000> lala: there are a few solutions ... I also think even in Vista it 'might' not work. You'll have to search for one that works for you
[14:05] <terran4000> timo: hmm, lets see
[14:05] <lala> alright terran4000
[14:05] <tendays> the "translate this application" menu item sends me to launchpad, and following the links I find a document telling me not to change in launchpad because it will get overidden/ignored
[14:05] <terran4000> timo: did you install pavucontrol?
[14:07] <lala> another question before i start, what if i have installed kubuntu, and it cant find my internet? :/
[14:07] <tendays> (I guess I'll just file a bug in bugs.kde.org...)
[14:08] <chuckf> lala: do you have a wire to plug into for your internet?
[14:08] <terran4000> lala: best bet, plug in your computer via a cable (if you use wifi right now)
[14:09] <lala> chuckf, terran4000, i can access my modem with a cable yes
[14:09] <lala> and also without
[14:09] <lala> go on please :p
[14:09] <terran4000> lala: I'm pretty sure wifi won't work out of the box, so make sure you got a cable handy
[14:09] <chuckf> lala: unless there is something real special about your nic you'll be able to get to the internet via that and then update drivers for the wireless
[14:09] <terran4000> timo: did you install "pavucontrol"? It will allow you to control Pulse Audio
[14:10] <timo> terran4000:  no
[14:10] <terran4000> k, lets try something first
[14:10] <timo> where instal this
[14:10] <timo> terran4000:  where instal this
[14:10] <terran4000> timo: if you open System Settings then click on Multimedia
[14:11] <terran4000> what is the first device listed on the right side?
[14:11] <terran4000> timo: you can install 'pavucontrol' from the command line or from kpackageit
[14:11] <timo> ensoniq
[14:11] <timo> is the first one
[14:11] <terran4000> aha
[14:12] <terran4000> timo: so that means that you are not using Pulse Audio
[14:12] <timo> he means the wiedergabegerät dont work
[14:12] <timo> i dont know wiedergabegerät in englisch
[14:13] <lala> chuckf, my modem is secured, will that make it harder?
[14:13] <terran4000> I don't know what "wiedergabegerät" is either, sorry.
[14:14] <timo> terran4000:  when i go to kpackageit
[14:14] <timo> commes this
[14:14] <timo> terran4000: A package dependency could not be found.
[14:14] <timo> More information is available in the detailed report.
[14:14] <slow-motion> hi
[14:14] <timo> hi
[14:14] <terran4000> timo: ek! that's not good. Hmmm
[14:14] <terran4000> ok, lets avoid that for now :-P
[14:15] <terran4000> timo: in System Setting -> Multimedia ... what other devices are listed on the right side?
[14:17] <timo> audio games komunikation
[14:17] <timo> benachrichigungen
[14:17] <terran4000> timo: that's on the left, how about on the right side?
[14:18] <chuckf> lala what do you mean secured? with wpa/wep? if so it shouldn't be harder
[14:18] <lala> its the highest security available
[14:18] <lala> WPA 2PSK or something like that
[14:19] <timo> ensoniq audio pci
[14:19] <timo> and audio pulse driver
[14:19] <lala> and the modem has a firewall installed too
[14:19] <chuckf> I've yet to find a wireless network I can't log on to
[14:19] <lala> u can get on any network? :o
[14:19] <terran4000> timo: ooo, cool. I have an idea
[14:19] <chuckf> I can get on any network I get the keys for:)
[14:19] <Vishesh> Hi. I was trying to get my Laserjet 1000 printer to work. And I can't seem to find any /dev/usb directory. Has that been removed or what?
[14:20] <terran4000> timo: for fun, try clicking once on "pulse" and then click test on the bottom of the window
[14:20] <timo> terran4000:
[14:20] <lala> ah like that chuckf, i thought u could crack em all :D
[14:20] <timo> ok
[14:20] <chuckf> just some.....
[14:20] <chuckf> ;)
[14:21]  * chuckf works in IT security so it is part of the job
[14:22] <timo> he say i dont run he to avoid to ensoniq audio pci
[14:22] <lala> nice chuckf, and how do u crack them? with backtrack?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Vishesh, what brand is that ?
[14:23] <terran4000> timo: hmm, that is troublesome ...
[14:23] <timo> terran4000:  yes i think so to
[14:23] <Vishesh> BluesKaj: HP. It's really old (7 years + atleast)
[14:23] <chuckf> most of the tools are in there, yets
[14:24] <chuckf> s/yets/yes
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Vishesh, try the hpilp package
[14:24] <timo> what can we do
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Vishesh, you're lucky to have a printer last that long :)
[14:24] <terran4000> timo: I'm sorry, I don't know what else we can do. Without seeing your computer I can't help you much more than this.
[14:25] <timo> ok
[14:25] <timo> ter terran4000thanks
[14:25] <lala> so chuckf, lets say ive installed kubuntu, and it cant find my internet, what then? i plug in the cable in my laptop and the modem, what then?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> timo , pulseaudio is not a driver , it's a sound server
[14:25] <Vishesh> BluesKaj: Tried it. No luck. I was trying to follow some instructions given on varios guides, but there just isn't any /dev/usb/lp0. Yea, this printer rocks! :-D
[14:27] <BluesKaj> timo , alsa-base and alsa-utils are the kernel source drivers you need
[14:28] <chuckf> when you plub in wired you'll run a package update to get the latest packages. You'll probably pull down a new kernel and have ot reboot afterwards. Then run the restricted hardware wizard (forget the name at the moment) and then you're wireless card should be detected with the new driver. Search for your wireless and you should connect with your keys
[14:29] <terran4000> kJockey
[14:30] <terran4000> or was it 'kjocky'
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Vishesh, did you actually try the HPILP package or just some HP tutorial ?
[14:30] <terran4000> hm, something like that
[14:30] <iconmefisto> jockey-kde ??
[14:30] <lala> ok chuckf ... sounds like a lot of work
[14:34] <Vishesh> BluesKaj: I tried the HPLIP. It didn't really work - The printer just doesn't print. Then I tried to go through random tutorials .. haven't really done anything though.
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Vishesh, maybe a legacy HP-Linux driver will work ..dunno what else to do :P
[14:39] <Vishesh> BluesKaj: Yeah. I'm trying to compile it directly from the source. Lets see. Thanks for trying though.
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Vishesh, goodluck , let us know if you succeed , it would be a good to put that in my help database:)
[14:45] <Vishesh> BluesKaj: Compiling from the source didn't really help. I removed it and re-installed the hplib toolkit. Cleared up from cups.conf file, and went through the hp-setup again. This time it worked :-)
[14:46] <Vishesh> So, you were kinda right. I wonder why it didn't work the first time. Oh well, it's working now!
[14:48] <BluesKaj> Vishesh, cool ! :)
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Vishesh, yeah , those darn conf files are handy but sometimes they interfere
[14:54] <Vishesh> On digging in. I've realized the foomatic/foo2zjs (What a name!) driver, which is the recommended one, doesn't really work, but the hpijs does.
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Vishesh, yes the hpijs is the std driver for a lot of HP printers
[15:01] <trasher> yes
[15:01] <trasher> all all
[15:04] <trasher> grizzleys
[15:05] <trasher> beer grizzley
[15:05] <chisel_> i've lost audio in firefox under kubuntu....what gives?
[15:05] <trasher> chisel_ hello
[15:06] <chisel_> hi trasher
[15:06] <trasher> where are you from?
[15:06] <chisel_> oregon
[15:06] <trasher> usa?
[15:06] <trasher> what is oregon
[15:06] <chisel_> oregon is a state in usa, yes
[15:06] <trasher> ))
[15:06] <trasher> arizona
[15:07] <trasher> yes   I found it on map
[15:07] <chisel_> didn't they teach you about US states in skool?
[15:07] <trasher> chisel_  support bill gayts  and use wind
[15:07] <chisel_> fuck windows
[15:08] <trasher> chisel_  ok ))
[15:08] <Pici> chisel_: Please mind your language here and stay on topic.
[15:08] <Pici> This is the Kubuntu support channel.
[15:08] <trasher> chisel_  didn't they teach you about US states in skool?     no
[15:08] <chisel_> besides, bill gates doesn't work there anymore
[15:08] <trasher> chisel_ i know
[15:08] <Pici> !ot
[15:09] <chisel_> yes pici, i'm aware of the topic. just making conversation until i get an intelligible response.
[15:09] <PolyC> is there is good and intuitive solution for backupping you home under linux
[15:10] <PolyC> something any similar to apple's time machine?
[15:10] <trasher> chisel_   put your quastion one more
[15:10] <Pici> !backup
[15:11] <PolyC> thanks
[15:11] <chisel_> how do i get sound back for online videos in firefox under kubuntu?
[15:11] <PolyC> anything that's cleary "better" than others
[15:11] <chisel_> i lost sound over night
[15:12] <trasher> chisel_  get sound back?    It is misterious!     sound back )))   You are crazy!
[15:13] <trasher> chisel_  sorry   but I think that it is bad idea
[15:13] <chisel_> my google searches have come up empty
[15:14] <chisel_> !nick chisel
[15:15] <trasher> chisel_ man I have to go to supermarket     I want to eat
[15:15] <trasher> chisel_  ok?
[15:15] <trasher> chisel_  have you some questions more?
[15:16] <Rav3nSw0rd> for some reason my xorg.conf is incorrect... can someone help check it please? http://paste.linuxassist.net/215146
[15:16] <chisel_> how do i get sound for video playback for online videos? (such as youtube)
[15:16] <Rav3nSw0rd> I can't find what's wrong with my xorg.conf settings
[15:16] <chisel_> i have all the restricted extras etc
[15:16] <trasher> chisel_ install sound apparatuer
[15:17] <trasher> chisel_   have you music columns ?
[15:18] <trasher> chisel_  girl   how are you old?
[15:23] <kaddi__> hi, for some reasons konqueror is using nspluginviewer for flash which is frequently crashing on me. How can I get konqueror to use the normal flashplugin that is also used in FF for example?
[15:33] <iconmefisto> kaddi__: konqueror does use the same flash plugin as firefox. in konqeror settings, plugins, I have /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[15:34] <kaddi__> iconmefisto: yes, I found the path, but why does it use nspluginviewer then? Shouldn't it just use the flash plugin?
[15:35] <iconmefisto> I think that's just a wrapper, so konq can use any netscape plugin
[15:35] <kaddi__> i use ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[15:37] <iconmefisto> kaddi__: did you install flashplayer manually?
[15:38] <kaddi__> iconmefisto: not itentionally, I thought I was using the version from apt-get
[15:39] <iconmefisto> kaddi__: I don't even have a ~/.mozilla/plugins/ folder, that's why I ask
[15:39] <kaddi__> i'm moving the /usr/lib folders above the /.mozilla/plugin folder for now, gonna check if that improves anything
[15:40] <kaddi__> iconmefisto: there's only libflashplayer.so in the .mozilla/plugin folder, so it may well be a leftover
[15:41] <iconmefisto> kaddi__: that plugin listed in my konq settings is a symlink that eventually points to /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so  so that's the actual plugin that firefox and konqueror are using on my install
[15:41] <daskreech> Does anyone know a server that's live on the net that drops ICMP requests?
[15:44] <MarcoPau> hello, just upgraded to firefox 3.6.0 with ubuntuzilla but youtube is mute... any hint?
[15:45] <kaddi__> iconmefisto: it's now loading the flashplugin from /usr/lib/firefox and that one is working much better already. :) It's pointing to /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so for me too
[15:54] <ubuntu_mad> Hello
[16:02] <tony32> i was booted off x somehow, anyone know how to get back in? i did "startx -- :1" to get in this x session
[16:15] <ubuntu_mad> my system volume is very low even with volume at full?
[16:15] <Kolia> ubuntu_mad: you turned every volume at full?
[16:15] <Kolia> ubuntu_mad: in the mixer table?
[16:15] <ubuntu_mad> Kolia: was just trying to find it
[16:16] <Kolia> ubuntu_mad: right click on the systray icon ?
[16:16] <ubuntu_mad> Kolia: master is up full
[16:16] <greyhat> or terminal > # alsamixer
[16:17] <greyhat> Is it just your sound at youtube ?
[16:17] <ubuntu_mad> Kolia: PCM at zero
[16:17] <Kolia> ubuntu_mad: that must be it
[16:17] <ubuntu_mad> >:o sorted lol
[16:17] <ubuntu_mad> sorry..noob alert
[16:17] <Kolia> i hate this mixer
[16:17] <Kolia> ubuntu_mad: don't be sorry , this is a usual trap
[16:18] <ubuntu_mad> when i put it up full i could here a buzz from the speakers lol
[16:19] <ubuntu_mad> any good places to see bout customizing my KDE?
[16:19] <greyhat> Kde-look.org
[16:19] <ubuntu_mad> ok
[16:19] <ubuntu_mad> thanks
[16:20] <ubuntu_mad> another thing,I keep getting a message on log in 'can not run screenlets or something
[16:20] <ubuntu_mad> i did have screen lets installed but its removed now
[16:22] <courtney> I'm trying to run Cisco AnyConnect VPN client, but when I try connecting to a VPN server it just says the host is unreachable. Any suggestions?
[16:23] <Kolia> ubuntu_mad: looks like there is still an autostart entry for it
[16:29] <ubuntu_mad> Kolia: i remember setting it up but dont remember how lol
[16:30] <Kolia> ubuntu_mad: check system settings > advanced tab > automatic start (translating from french)
[16:36] <jtholmes> anyone had good experience with the linksys WPC54G wireless pcmcia card on 9.10
[16:40] <rampage_> hey guys does anybody knows how to activate desktop sphere and desktop cylinder?
[16:40] <rampage_> desktop cube works just fine
[16:42] <lnx4ver> rampage_ its in the cube settings
[16:45] <rampage_> yeah i put a key combination and it is  not working
[16:55] <genii> Usually ctrl-F11 for cube, ctrl-F12 for sphere
[16:59] <torasuku_> Any torrents I am downloading aren't actually starting, any help?
[17:12] <ToxinPowe> any ppa for RC3 on Karmic?
[17:28] <tew88> Was wondering if anyone could point me to the setting (if it exists) to make taskbars independent of one another in the case of multiple, virtual desktops
[17:36] <guilhermeblanco> Hi guys... I'm on a mac trying to burn DVD of kubuntu image (sorry, I don't have CDs avail here). Whatever I do, checksum is ok, but after I write it to disk and check CD, it always give me 2 files are broken. Any ideas? Is there a network install option?
[17:37] <Zorba_> Do you know what files are broken?
[17:38] <guilhermeblanco> Zorba_: no... the Verify CD only gives me "Check finished: errors found in 2 files!"
[17:40] <Zorba_> Some months ago I had the same problem, and I solved it burning another disc... maybe the DVD disc is damaged.
[17:40] <guilhermeblanco> Zorba_: already lost 4 DVDs
[17:40] <guilhermeblanco> =(
[17:40] <guilhermeblanco> all of them same issue
[17:41] <guilhermeblanco> first was without checksum, second after checksum, third in slow speed, fourth with data integrity check
[17:41] <guilhermeblanco> all the same issue
[17:42] <kubian> tew88: i guess in 4.4 there is a desktop different activities?
[17:42] <Zorba_> really strange... maybe it is a problem of the image...
[17:43] <kubian> cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot
[17:44] <kubian> guilher* try that link
[17:45] <guilhermeblanco> kubian: ok... thanks!
[17:45] <guilhermeblanco> just reading some Facebook announcement regarding php
[17:45] <guilhermeblanco> =)
[17:46] <guilhermeblanco> then I'll be back to attempt install it
[17:48] <daskreech> tew88: Independent taskbars?
[17:56] <jtholmes> anyone had good experience with the linksys WPC54G wireless pcmcia card on 9.10
[18:01] <BluesKaj> !linksys
[18:01] <BluesKaj> !info linksys
[18:04] <dsfdsfee> Fuck u motherfuckers
[18:04] <dsfdsfee> !ops
[18:05] <jtholmes> boy he needed to go what an attitude
[18:05] <maco> funny they called the ops on themself
[18:10] <Linux> ciao
[18:10] <Linux> !list
[18:10] <genii> !it | Linux
[18:10] <genii> Claviceps: No advertising here
[18:12] <Linux> ciao
[18:12] <Linux> !list
[18:14] <Linux> !list
[18:14] <tsimpson> Linux: /join #ubuntu-it
[18:14] <alexbobp> Good news, I finally fixed my knetworkmanager and konsole issues
[18:15] <alexbobp> knetworkmanager wasn't connecting to secure wifi and konsole wasn't recognizing page up and page down keys
[18:16] <alexbobp> I also fixed the issue where the pager would only let me have two rows
[18:16] <alexbobp> all in one software configuration change
[18:17] <alexbobp> oh, and also the system is much more responsive now.  Doesn't randomly hang.
[18:19] <alexbobp> Yep, I found the ultimate bug fix for KDE, and it's at http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/
[18:24] <Claviceps> Mr Hudson ft Kanye West - Supernova lyrics
[18:25] <Claviceps> www.norml.org -- "this is normal... this is normal..." SCHOOL - EDUCATION
[19:21] <MarcoPau> hello, just upgraded to firefox 3.6.0 with ubuntuzilla but youtube is mute... any hint?
[19:27] <asraniel> hi there, i just installed kubuntu 9.10 on the laptop of my dad and plasma displays mostly garbage. anybody has a idea? how can i change graphic driver to vesa (i can't find the xorg config file)
[19:31] <iconmefisto> asraniel: X doesn't use xorg.conf anymore unless you create one
[19:37] <asraniel> iconmefisto: ok.. but looks like i have bigger problems anyway. didn't expect so many problems with a laptop of that age
[19:39] <iconmefisto> asraniel: what video card? ati? nvidia?
[19:40] <genii> !laptop
[19:40] <genii> The LaptopTestingTeam has good resources for workarounds for some common models, etc
[19:42] <asraniel> iconmefisto: intel 845M
[19:42] <asraniel> iconmefisto: first time i run into such problems, basicaly the panel and all popups are garbage
[19:43] <asraniel> iconmefisto: i can run blindly krunner and launch konsole to get some stuff done
[19:43] <asraniel> genii: ah thx, going to check that out
[19:45] <asraniel> iconmefisto: never mind, hehe, that is the chipset, it is actually a old ati card
[19:46] <genii> The 845 chipset always had some weird problems under linux
[19:46] <asraniel> iconmefisto: either a Radeon 7500C or a Radeon M6P (not sure yet, no clue how to find out)
[19:46] <Benkinooby> hi, i try to make embedded divx videos with firefox working. i followed the 2nd ( use extension from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446 ) and 3rd advice from this website (use mozilla-mplayer ) , without luck http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491592
[19:46] <Benkinooby> !divx
[19:47] <Benkinooby> !xvid
[19:47] <iconmefisto> asraniel: lshw -c display
[19:49] <iconmefisto> asraniel: jockey-text -C   will tell you if there is a proprietary driver that may give you better results
[19:50] <asraniel> iconmefisto: thx, now i know the card and that there is no proprietary driver
[19:50] <asraniel> iconmefisto: pretty bad, because the open source does not seem to work
[19:50] <asraniel> lets see if i get a workaround somewhere (there is none in the wiki), or last solution, vesa..
[19:52] <tcalzolari> IRSeekLog@irseek/log-bot/IRSeekBot
[19:55] <asraniel> iconmefisto: ok, it's a known problem it seems with that card
[20:00] <iconmefisto> asraniel: do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe  with vesa driver? if so, you could copy that to xorg.conf to use vesa
[20:00] <Benkinooby> i checked serveral websites with howtos and instructions for making divx in firefox working, but i didn't manage. can some1 help me? to see waht i did, check my post at 20:46:07
[20:01] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: we're all in different timezones, so 20:46:07 doesn't help much
[20:02] <genii> Benkinooby: timestamp doesn't help much for us to find it, since we could all be in different zones and the IRC client puts local time usually, etc
[20:02] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: sorry... thought, this would be same time for us all... but to fix the problem : about 16 minutes ago :)
[20:03] <Benkinooby> hi, i try to make embedded divx videos with firefox working. i followed the 2nd ( use extension from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446 ) and 3rd advice from this website (use mozilla-mplayer ) , without luck http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491592
[20:03] <asraniel> iconmefisto: i found out that i have to set RenderAccel "off" to make it work, testing now. the other solution would be to use exa
[20:03] <asraniel> iconmefisto: the first one seems to work
[20:03] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: i was afraid i get kicked, when i repeat my posts
[20:05] <Tm_T> Benkinooby: naah, you can repeat when asked or when it's otherwise reasonable
[20:06] <Benkinooby> Tm_T: ah ok... i was expecting that there is a bot or something, that checks if i repeat within a certain time :P
[20:07] <Tm_T> Benkinooby: well, if you flood your repeat... (:
[20:09] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: so you manually downloaded and installed mozilla-mplayer ??
[20:10] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: aptitude
[20:12] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: the point is, i'am running out of ideas. all the websites i havn't tried now are coming up with the same advices (mediaplayerconnectivity plugin, installing mozilla-mplayer, installing all kinds of codecs) seems that i miss something :(
[20:14] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: do you have a link to a page with divx content. I have mozilla-player plugin and want to test it
[20:16] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: http://speedload.to/FILE4B66908379D51
[20:19] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: http://theawaremind.com/videos/VincentDivX.htm this one is working :/
[20:22] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: is it working for you?
[20:22] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: the first one works for me too, if I ignore that warning message and just click the play button it loads the video in the mplayer plugin
[20:22] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: yes, both work
[20:23] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: the first one is black for me :(
[20:25] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: it's black after you click the play button?
[20:26] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: y, i upload a screenshot
[20:26] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: 1 sec
[20:27] <isai> hola
[20:28] <genii> !es | isai
[20:28] <isai> hello
[20:28] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: http://tinypic.com/r/18f90p/6
[20:29] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: http://tinypic.com/r/29f9umc/6
[20:30] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: on the second picture, i get the impressione, that the mplayer is there, but it stays black, no matter ifi click play or soemthing
[20:38] <rob0917> hello
[20:40] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: lots of buffering here before the first one begins to play, and it starts from a black screen, then more buffering. sometimes it stops and I have to start it again with the plugin's play button. so maybe you're seeing the first few frames of video but it's having trouble downloading the stream
[20:41] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: ok, i'll be patient and give u feedback
[20:42] <torasuku> Can anyone help me with torrents? I'm downloading torrents using KTorrent in Kubuntu, I've also tried Transmission. The torrent has ~400 seeders, but I'm still "Stalled", and it never starts.
[20:42] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: i just understood the (big) difference between divx and xvid. until now i was thinking on is the player and one the codec -.-
[20:43] <nascentmind>  hi. In kde konsole the fonts look horrible when it is colored. how can i fix this?
[20:43] <nascentmind> when i do a ls -l the directories when colored blue look different than the non colored fonts.
[20:43] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: if you right-click on the player do you get a menu with play, pause, etc? there is also configure in that menu
[20:45] <kyubutsu> changed my kdm theme. problem: old theme login screen still flashes before displaying new theme.  need a hint as to where that image might be stored at.  (i removed all other themes so the default location isnt it)
[20:45] <Benkinooby> hmmm.. nope... when i rightclick and the choose "about" i get "totem browser plugin 2.28.2" maybe i have to remove that
[20:46] <nascentmind> any chance of some help?
[20:46] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: do you have totem on your system?
[20:48] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: no
[20:48] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: let me reomve totem.. maybe it "blocks" mplayer
[20:48] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: yeah I think having 2 plugins would be a problem
[20:49] <kyubutsu> nascentmind: the default font color i got here is all white;  you can look into Settings>edit current profile  and choose/change the options in there to your liking
[20:50] <nascentmind> kyubutsu, that is fine the only problem is when the color changes say for eg syntax highlighting in vim etc. the fonts don't look right
[20:51] <nascentmind> only if i zoom the konsole to a very big size will the fonts show all nice.
[20:51] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: better i restart firefox
[20:51] <kyubutsu> nascentmind: check your antialiasing option in system settings
[20:51] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: yes restart firefox after removing totem-mozilla
[20:52] <nascentmind> kyubutsu, in system settings -> appearance -> fonts right?
[20:53] <kyubutsu> yes
[20:53] <kyubutsu> that should apply antialiasing to fonts globally
[20:53] <nascentmind> kyubutsu, tried that. not much difference. should i restart X?
[20:54] <kyubutsu> anyhow, i dont use vim.. i thought your issue was with konsole
[20:54] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: now i am closer http://tinypic.com/r/9vleog/6
[20:54] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: whoop whoop, it works :)
[20:54] <nascentmind> kyubutsu, anything on the konsole which has colored fonts .. like directory blue color in ls -l etc.
[20:54] <kyubutsu> nascentmind: wouldnt hurt to restart
[20:54] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: sometimes, less is more :D
[20:54] <nascentmind> kyubutsu, ok will do
[20:55] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: thx for support
[20:56] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: the mplayer plugin is quite capable. sometimes it doesn't work without playing around with its settings. sometimes it doesn't work at all on some pages
[20:57] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: i just found out, that there is a package called mozilla-plugin-vlc. i will replace the mplayer plugin with it... maybe performance is better. from my expereince vlc is the best player and when it comes to streaming vlc gets even better :D
[20:57] <nascentmind> kyubutsu, rebooted. still looks weird
[20:58] <kyubutsu> nascentmind: unfortunately, i dont know anything about vim so i cant provide any more help about that
[20:59] <nascentmind> kyubutsu, no its not vim. its everything. even if i do a ls -l list directories the color highlighting looks different
[20:59] <kyubutsu> perhaps someone else might know .. but you'll have to wait around
[21:00] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: ok, let me know how it works. last time I tried it (over a year ago) it wasn't too good
[21:00] <nascentmind> i had checked out in gnome and used konsole there. the font looks so nice there.
[21:01] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: fail... stick with mplayer... with vlc there is just written "waiting for video"
[21:01] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: i will wait a lil' bit
[21:01] <nascentmind>  WaltzingAlong , i am not talking about syntax highlighting. i just gave an eg. even if i do a simple directory listing the font looks bad.
[21:02] <WaltzingAlong> yeah what looks bad about it? wrong size? color? parts of it appear missing? any difference with changing the font size in konsole? changing the konsole colors?
[21:03] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: maybe you upload a screenshot to tyniurl
[21:03] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: sorry, tinypic
[21:03] <nascentmind> ok. will do
[21:04] <Benkinooby> iconmefisto: so, fazit: mplayer is the one and only truth for divx in firefox. :) thx for help again
[21:07] <nascentmind> is there a ubuntu pastie for pics?
[21:08] <genii> imagebin.org
[21:08] <genii> !paste
[21:08] <genii> eg second link in the above
[21:09] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: i am using kubuntu. when u use the kubuntu screenshot tool, it offers you to host it on ZimageZ. all the other websites like imagebin, tinypic and co are independent form the OS
[21:09] <iconmefisto> nascentmind: there's a handy little drag and drop pastebin widget for kde
[21:10] <nascentmind> i am using ksnapshot
[21:10] <Benkinooby> omg, i lllllllllllloooooooooooovvvvvvvvvveeeeeeee *buntu soooooooooo much for all these small nice things (and problems ;) )
[21:11] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: press Alt+F2 and then type screenshot
[21:11] <nascentmind> i get none
[21:12] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: this is the one with the zimagez. if you don't have, don't mind and use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin :)
[21:12] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: if you like you can go for it in the softwaremanager, or check out the widget (this is what i am doing right now ;) )
[21:13] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: but upload the pic anyhow, to get back to you original prob
[21:17] <nascentmind> http://imagebin.org/83055
[21:19] <nascentmind> can you notice the difference?
[21:20] <WaltzingAlong> nascentmind: looks fine here.
[21:20] <nascentmind> huh?
[21:21] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: looks also fine to me
[21:21] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: maybe related to your monitor?
[21:21] <nascentmind> just compare the green font and the white font with similar names.
[21:22] <nascentmind> for eg friendclass and friendclass.cc
[21:22] <WaltzingAlong> yeah the green appears bold, so a bit fatter
[21:22] <nascentmind> yes and its smaller.
[21:22] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: let me upload apic from me to compare
[21:22] <nascentmind> it becomes worse when i look at it on vim etc.
[21:22] <WaltzingAlong> nascentmind: increase the font size? change the font konsole uses?
[21:23] <WaltzingAlong> nascentmind: i have mine currently set to use "Green on Black", Monospace, size 9 and yes to smooth fonts
[21:23] <nascentmind> why do i need to increase the font size? i need it at this font size itself. its a saner one.
[21:24] <nascentmind> mine too is on monospace 9 and smooth fonts
[21:24] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: http://imagebin.ca/view/qL3zm9.html
[21:24] <nascentmind> but on linux colors.
[21:25] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: i tought you were complaining about quality...
[21:25] <nascentmind> ok that too is not good.
[21:25] <nascentmind> for some reason the bold ones literally mess up
[21:25] <nascentmind> same problem
[21:25] <iconmefisto> I've got DejaVu Sans Mono, size 8 for my font
[21:26] <genii> I find mono spaced ones are generally easier on the eyes, no matter their colour
[21:26] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: i have the same like icon... with green on black
[21:28] <WaltzingAlong> nascentmind: you do not need to increase the font size. it was just a suggestion, something to try out to see if it made a difference. maybe it would look bad bigger as well.
[21:28] <nascentmind> WaltzingAlong, it looks proper when i increase it to insane size.
[21:28] <nascentmind> if i go to 8 it looks fine but becomes too small.
[21:28] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: what happens, if you use the same fomt settings in a non-konsole window, like kate, openoffice or so?
[21:28] <nascentmind> 10 becomes too big
[21:29] <iconmefisto> actually, I think I prefer Andale Mono
[21:29] <brandon_> Is it okay to download kubuntu and burn it to a disk for use on my personal computer?
[21:30] <WaltzingAlong> brandon_: please do :)
[21:30] <Benkinooby> brandon_: yes
[21:30] <Benkinooby> brandon_: also burn one for a friend :)
[21:30] <WaltzingAlong> brandon_: not only OK but encouraged!
[21:30] <kyubutsu> !free | brandon_
[21:30] <brandon_> WaltzingAlong: was just wondering y they have different versions such as shipit and and some you pay for?
[21:31] <Benkinooby> brandon_: usually u pay for support, but never for linux itself
[21:32] <nascentmind> its the same problem. if it is bold it becomes smaller.
[21:32] <brandon_> Benkinooby: on kubuntu.org it has some that you buy what is the difference?
[21:32] <nascentmind> i checked in kate.
[21:32] <Benkinooby> brandon_: give me one sec to check it
[21:32] <genii> brandon_: Canonical generally makes some money off supporting the server version, also with some other services like Soyuz on LaunchPad, etc
[21:33] <kyubutsu> that has nothing to do with downloading and/or burning a copy of any ubuntu flavor .. enough said
[21:33] <brandon_> Benkinooby: so its safe to download fromm canonical and just burn to disk?
[21:34] <WaltzingAlong> Benkinooby: brandon_ http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase                         packs of 20, 100, or 200 discs
[21:34] <Benkinooby> brandon_: yes, totally
[21:34] <brandon_> Benkinooby: cool
[21:35] <phoenixz> Can anybody please please help me with this.. Using KDE, I did an apt-get upgrade like 1 hour ago, and ever since my xorg is not working anymore.. first, what happened in the crappiest release ever, 9.10 that was already plagued with problems?? how come that an upgrade within the same release causes my keyboard and mouse not to work anymore? Anyway, I literraly tried everything, Install the 2.4 intel driver (since the 9.10 default intel driver is crap
[21:35] <phoenixz> anyway). doesnt even start anymore (did work last week). tried the latest intel driver, same thing, X doesnt start.. now Im trying to burn a lucid ISO, to see if 10.04 may relieve some páin but guess what? On 3 different computers I can not burn a friggin CD ISO!! All somehow don't recognize the empty CD in the drive.. so what can I do now??
[21:35] <Benkinooby> brandon_: if you look at the prices you will notice that this are more or less the costs for the CDs
[21:35] <brandon_> Benkinooby: one more question it has a popup saying that there r proprietary drivers available like for graphics card is ok to use those?
[21:35] <Benkinooby> brandon_: there are 3 options, downlaod & burn yourself, buy and request a free cd
[21:35] <WaltzingAlong> phoenixz: kde does not provide apt-get
[21:36] <kyubutsu> WaltzingAlong: wrong
[21:36] <phoenixz> WaltzingAlong: Using Kubuntu, duh...
[21:37] <nascentmind> iconmefisto, andale mono looks all faded and washed out around the curves.
[21:37] <Benkinooby> brandon_: depends. if you want 100% opensource system then avoid them, but this includes that you will also have probs with some audio codecs. if you want a system that works, and you don't have too much idea about the whole linux-thnig use them
[21:37] <nascentmind> otherwise it looks fine actually.
[21:37] <kyubutsu> phoenixz: just reinstall 9.10 .. upgrading generally causes troubles
[21:37] <Benkinooby> brandon_: it is possible to change back and forth as you like any time you like
[21:37] <phoenixz> WaltzingAlong:  and last time I checked, Kubuntu does.. if you can help, please do, because I just ran out of the last minute of patience for linux.. its just CRAP that I can not even burn a CD, that Im already for a year stuck with crappy intel drivers that make me wait 5 seconds for every 10 characters that I type..
[21:38] <phoenixz> kyubutsu: Hell will freeze over before I reinstall the crappiest every release of kubuntu.. 9.10 is the worst of all, really
[21:38] <brandon_> Benkinooby: but it is ok to use the nvidia drivers
[21:38] <WaltzingAlong> phoenixz: yeah this time kubuntu. last time it was kde. no worries. any help i would provide would go to those who ask in ways i would wish to reinforce
[21:38] <phoenixz> 8.10 never had problems, it was fast and cool... I have no idea why I ever thought I wanted to go to the 9.Xx versions..
[21:38] <Benkinooby> brandon_: yes, i use them too
[21:38] <kyubutsu> fresh install and upgrading are not the same thing, phoenixz
[21:38] <brandon_> Benkinooby: awsome thx for your help
[21:39] <phoenixz> kyubutsu: Im talking about a fresh install.. I have no idea how else to get my computer to work again..
[21:39] <brandon_> Benkinooby: Linux rules!
[21:39] <kyubutsu> you said you upgraded
[21:39] <WaltzingAlong> also typed kde when he meant kubuntu, apparently
[21:39] <Benkinooby> brandon_: the point with proprietary drivers is, that they were made by the manufacturer (nvidia). so they don't tell you how the dirvers work, which makes it difficult to support
[21:40] <phoenixz> WaltzingAlong: well excuse my not-so-much-in-for-jokes mood.. Ive been stuck for over a year with a bad ubuntu installation thanks to intel drivers, and now since the last upgrade, X wont even start anymore.. Now, sorry for mislabeling Kubuntu with KDE, my bad.. Do you have some sort of solution here?
[21:40] <titan_ark> anyone successfully fixed the power management bug?
[21:40] <brandon_> Benkinooby: Oh ok but nvidia better than ati on linux ?
[21:40] <nascentmind> phoenixz, use gnome?
[21:40] <nascentmind> :)
[21:41] <chuchin> HI
[21:41] <WaltzingAlong> phoenixz: read the x log for errors relating to x       less /var/log/Xorg.0.log                   grep -i "(EE)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log                     reconfigure it, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[21:41] <chuchin> WHER'RE YOU FROM?
[21:41] <phoenixz> kyubutsu: I changed the intel driver to 2.4 (some used-to-be solution about the current crap intel driver), no effect.. also "upgraded" to some ppa intel 2.10 driver, didnt work either
[21:41] <Benkinooby> brandon_: there are 10000 websites discussing this topic. afaik nvidia is the better one
[21:41] <phoenixz> nascentmind: how is gnome going to work if X doesnt?
[21:41] <kyubutsu> phoenixz: you answered your own question when you said you never had a problem when using 8.10 ..
[21:41] <brandon_> Benkinooby: lol
[21:41] <chuchin> I'CANT STAND HOW TO USE THIS
[21:42] <brandon_> Benkinooby: thx ill do some googleing
[21:42] <WaltzingAlong> kyubutsu: some people seek out problems
[21:42] <WaltzingAlong> kyubutsu: looking for ways to make things more difficult
[21:42] <Benkinooby> brandon_: good idea...  are u new to linux or *buntu?
[21:42] <chuchin> OK. ARE YOU FEMALE OR MALE?
[21:42] <nascentmind> phoenixz, in one of the machines my kde screwed up when i upgraded from hardy to karmic. gets to the splash screen crashes and lands back to kdm. either its bugs in X or kde not sure but gnome works fine.
[21:42] <phoenixz> kyubutsu: that I have no idea why I every upgraded yeah, I know.. if I'd have an 8.10 disc around, trust me, Id be back there happily working.. I just don't understand how a new version can crap up basic things so badly..
[21:42] <WaltzingAlong> chuchin: on here? neither or both
[21:43] <brandon_> Benkinooby: NOT NEW TO LINUX JUST KUBUNTU
[21:43] <maco> criminey yelling!
[21:43] <brandon_> Benkinooby: sry caps
[21:43] <maco> calm down folks, have a cup o' tea
[21:43] <brandon_> lol
[21:43] <brandon_> sounds good maybe the green kind
[21:44] <nascentmind> phoenixz, 9.10 kde release is the trashiest ever as you said. sadly i really liked kde.
[21:44] <brandon_> Anyways kudos to all on this channel and thx for the help!
[21:44] <maco> nascentmind: worse than 8.04?
[21:44] <phoenixz> Anyway, anybody who may have an idea why I cant burn a CD in 3 different kubuntu computers? I insert the CD, new device notifier nicely says "new empty CD" but then k3b says there is no empty medium.. The burn command has the same problem
[21:45] <maco> i like 9.10. i shoudve started running 10.04 unstable months ago, but 9.10 is so good...
[21:45] <nascentmind> hardy had 3.5 i think. atleast it did not have this many problems
[21:45] <WaltzingAlong> 8.04 was probably what is was for the switch from kde3 to kde4, no?
[21:45] <Benkinooby> phoenixz: something like this happened to me to... when you have kde and an other DE like gnome or xfce, the loginmanager for gnome kills the one for kde
[21:45] <phoenixz> nascentmind: I love KDE, and will stick with it.. the problems in the 9.10 release are, from what Ive seen, mostly not KDE, but other systems
[21:45] <titan_ark> anyone been able to fix the bug in power management?
[21:45] <titan_ark> :(
[21:45] <Benkinooby> phoenixz: i blocked the gnomeloginloader, reinstalled the kde one and finish :)
[21:46] <phoenixz> Benkinooby: I have only KDE.. I avoid gnome stuff whenever possible.. not that I hate it,. I just like everything to be kde
[21:46] <phoenixz> Benkinooby: anyway, the problem is that the login screen simply is not responding to mouse or keyboard
[21:46] <phoenixz> Benkinooby: cant even CTRL ALT F1
[21:47] <Benkinooby> titan_ark: what bug?
[21:47] <nascentmind> phoenixz, login screen is kdm or gdm?
[21:47] <phoenixz> nascentmind: kubuntu, so kdm
[21:48] <titan_ark> Benkinooby: everytime notebook goes to sleep and then recovers it says no battery plugged in
[21:48] <Benkinooby> phoenixz: same symptoms for me... kann you tell me what loginmanager you are using?
[21:48] <nascentmind> phoenixz, you can check by installing gdm.
[21:48] <Benkinooby> phoenixz: maybe you give gdm a try...
[21:48] <phoenixz> Okay, this drives me crazy, is this a K3B problem?? I insert empty CD, K3B says Emtpy CD.-R medium, so I select BURN ISO, and then it gives me "Please insert an empty medium"... What is this about?
[21:48] <Benkinooby> nascentmind: sees you are always a sec faster than me ;)
[21:49] <nascentmind> :)
[21:49] <phoenixz> Can't get X to work, can't burn disk.. checkmate!
[21:49] <nascentmind> so any chance with kde guys improving the font.
[21:49] <nascentmind> ?
[21:49] <Zoot365> Hi out there.  I'm using kubuntu 9 10 and I don't have a usb/imput folder.  I want to install the settings thingy for wacom but I have nowhere to put the bug fix.
[21:49] <kyubutsu> titan_ark: couple of suggestions; check launchpad for similar issues; ask in #kubuntu-bugs
[21:49] <kyubutsu> or
[21:49] <kyubutsu> !bug
[21:49] <nascentmind> phoenixz, also try to regenerate the xorg.conf file
[21:49] <WaltzingAlong> phoenixz: could learn a few keyboard tricks to try using the tools k3b uses
[21:50] <phoenixz> nascentmind: AFAIK, this version of X works without xorg.conf file..
[21:50] <nascentmind> phoenixz, hmm.
[21:50] <Benkinooby> titan_ark: are u using 9.10?
[21:50] <phoenixz> WaltzingAlong: I tried the "burn" program which gives me the same thing.. cdr gives me the same too.. on 2 different machines..
[21:50] <nascentmind> phoenixz, btw what does the error log say?
[21:51] <phoenixz> nascentmind: I could try deleting any existing xorg.conf file, now that I thinkg about t..
[21:51] <nascentmind> phoenixz, you can always boot up in single user mode and check the logs.
[21:51] <tweakedeh> I'm some what new to this but Installed a older Kubuntu and I could add a widget that allowed me to share files in /home/user/public to anyone, now I'm on 9.10 and I cant find this any more, Any ideas?
[21:51] <WaltzingAlong> phoenixz: read the x log for errors relating to x       less /var/log/Xorg.0.log                   grep -i "(EE)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log                     reconfigure it, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[21:51] <phoenixz> nascentmind: there is no xorg.conf file to start with.. let me check xorg.0.lgo
[21:53] <phoenixz> WaltzingAlong: first gotta dump the experimental xorg 2.10 intel driver
[21:53] <Benkinooby> titan_ark: are there any websites about this bug?
[21:53] <WaltzingAlong> unfortunate that you know enough to break it but not enough to fix it ;)
[21:54] <phoenixz> WaltzingAlong: like I said, I ran out of humor about 2 hours ago..
[21:54] <mudassar> Hello linux genius people, can some body solve my issue while compile a opencv file for video manipulation, I get the following errors
[21:54] <mudassar> /usr/local/lib/libcxcore.so: undefined reference to `gzopen'
[21:54] <mudassar> there are many others too like this
[21:55] <phoenixz> WaltzingAlong: And anyway, Im not doing anything "weird" here, just what the ubuntu wiki has documented as "the solution" to the crappy intel driver problem of 9.10
[21:56] <mudassar> I guess it is looking for some so file for lsb in kubuntu
[21:56] <WaltzingAlong> phoenixz: tis ok. i understand you just need to type here a bit, release a bit of frustration...enough to let yourself calm back down, then you can approach the problem anew and get it figured out
[21:56] <mudassar> can somebody tell me how to configure that ?
[21:59] <Benkinooby> ok guys, thanks to all who helped me and good luck to all who are searching for help.
[21:59] <phoenixz> This is the output of my Xorg log file http://pastebin.com/f4e55ac65
[22:02] <slow-motion> n8
[22:06] <titan_ark> damn, got busy
[22:06] <titan_ark> no one using kubuntu on a notebook facing trouble with power management?
[22:06] <mudassar> hello how to get rid of the error /usr/local/lib/libcxcore.so: undefined reference to `gzeof' while compiling opencv file ?
[22:09] <mcollin> hi i use kubuntu 8.04, i try to use sun java jdk instead of openjdk
[22:09] <mcollin> i done: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[22:09] <phoenixz> mcollin: and whats the problem?
[22:10] <mudassar> /usr/local/lib/libcxcore.so: undefined reference to `gzeof'
[22:10] <mcollin> when i start eclipse, the runtime jre continue to be openjdrk
[22:11] <mcollin> i started adept, removed openjdk... seem still there
[22:11] <teage> mudassar: do you have all dependents installed
[22:11] <mudassar> i guess all of them are installed
[22:11] <mudassar> i just installed lsb as well
[22:11] <teage> mudassar: look at this websit: http://n2.nabble.com/Compiling-error-with-OpenCV-2-0-0-td3968857.html
[22:11] <Zoot365> Hi out there.  I'm using kubuntu 9 10 and I don't have a usb/imput folder.  I want to install the settings thingy for wacom but I have nowhere to put the bug fix.
[22:12] <teage> mudassar: I think its right up yer alley.
[22:14] <mudassar> I have aleady visited this post .. but no positive result
[22:15] <mudassar> and followed the post
[22:15] <teage> whats the program OpenCV right?
[22:16] <mudassar> still getting the same error :(
[22:16] <mudassar> please help
[22:16] <mudassar> yes
[22:16] <mudassar> trying to build some opencv file
[22:17] <teage> i will try installing this
[22:17] <teage> hang on
[22:17] <mudassar> I have used the following command to build
[22:17] <mudassar> g++ -ggdb  -I/usr/local/include/opencv   -lhighgui -lcxcore -lcv -L/usr/local/lib mat.c -o outfile
[22:17] <teage> mudassar: what version are you trying to install?
[22:18] <mudassar> it is already installed ... but trying to build mat.c file
[22:18] <mudassar> opencv was installed
[22:19] <teage> Then whats the problem? Is it not running er something?
[22:19] <MarcoPau> hello, just upgraded to firefox 3.6.0 with ubuntuzilla but youtube is mute... any hint?
[22:20] <kaddi_> MarcoPau: maybe try to install the flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound package, in case it isn't installed
[22:21] <mudassar> I guess lsb is not linked correctly, how to do that ?
[22:23] <MarcoPau> kaddi_: tried, without any result
[22:25] <mudassar> any solution for opencv lsb problem ?
[22:25] <kaddi_> MarcoPau: how do you start FF 3.6? I just installed it, but firefox is still opening FF 3.5.7 and the command firefox-3.6 doesn't exist
[22:26] <MarcoPau> kaddi_: you have to run /usr/bin/firefox
[22:27] <kaddi_> MarcoPau: /usr/bin/firefox is pointing to firefox-3.5 for me
[22:27] <MarcoPau> for me not, it's a binary itself
[22:27] <MarcoPau> sorry kaddi_: /opt/firefox/firefox
[22:28] <MarcoPau> that's where ubuntuzilla put it
[22:28] <kaddi_> MarcoPau: hmm i guess something went wrong for me then, i don't have a firefox folder in /opt/
[22:30] <MarcoPau> kaddi_: did you install it with ubuntuzilla? I had to exit firefox 3.5.7 for a successful installation
[22:31] <kaddi_> MarcoPau: no, i installed from the mozilla ppa with  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable and update and install firefox-3.6 afterwards
[22:33] <MarcoPau> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/apt/pool/main/u/ubuntuzilla/ubuntuzilla_4.8.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[22:38] <aleksandar> hi all
[22:39] <aleksandar> help?
[22:39] <dramkit> nope?
[22:40] <kaddi_> !ask
[22:51] <righteous> hi, is the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu the kdelibs package and gnomelibs stuff?
[22:51] <righteous> the rest of the packages are the same?
[22:52] <kaddi> righteous: yes, the difference is only in the displaymanager used. But that also means different applications. eg Kubuntu uses dolphin as filebrowser, gnome uses nautilus
[22:53] <righteous> ohhh
[22:53] <righteous> ok
[22:53] <righteous> cool
[22:53] <righteous> anyone gotten a radeon hd 5770 using fglrx successfully in 9.10?
[22:57] <MarcoPau> kaddi: tried 3.6.0?
[22:58] <kaddi> MarcoPau: yes, turns out i needed to do a dist-upgrade for it to work
[22:58] <MarcoPau> kaddi: so are flash videos mute there also?
[22:58] <kaddi> checking right now, one sec
[22:59] <kaddi> i have sound marco
[23:03] <lavin> can any1 help me install hydra it says libssh2 wrong pointer i got libssh v0.11 file but theres no info on installing it
[23:04] <Zoot365> problem solved. this scripting stuff is fun.
[23:08] <GinoMan> anyone know how to make it so that my computer screen doesn't dim every two seconds despite fooling with the power management settings
[23:09] <righteous> ikonia: howdy ;)
[23:10] <ikonia> yes ?
[23:10] <righteous> still trying to troubleshoot that hd5770 on any linux distro.
[23:11] <ikonia> righteous: this channel is for kubuntu discussion only, keep on that topic and there is no problem
[23:11] <righteous> i read quite a bit saying that the 10.1 catalyst was working on 9.10, but the automatic download tool that came with gnome reproduced the error.
[23:11] <righteous> erm error/hardlock
[23:12] <righteous> ikonia: i never deviated from the topic, he was an abrasive op :P  but yeah, same issue-- hardlock before a sync can happen so nothing is being written to Xorg.0.log
[23:12] <ikonia> righteous: I'm sure someone will chose to help you
[23:12] <righteous> if i type in all caps will that help? ;)
[23:13] <ikonia> no
[23:13] <righteous> oh, by the way, I'm 22, blonde, about 4'11" and am a dallas cheerleader.  does that help?
[23:14] <ikonia> righteous: please keep to the topic
[23:14] <righteous> ikonia: yes my topic is getting the hd5770 to work on 9.10
[23:14] <righteous> with the fglrx driver.
[23:14] <ikonia> righteous: right - don't need the other comments then
[23:15] <righteous> ikonia: but its true!
[23:15] <righteous> anyway, got any ideas?
[23:16] <ikonia> righteous: I won't ask again - don't need the other conversation, please stick to the support topic
[23:16] <Draggor> Where is the equivalent of qtparted in kubuntu 9.10?
[23:16] <ikonia> Draggor: can you not install qtparted
[23:16] <righteous> ikonia: ok then can you help, or are you not concerned about the topic?
[23:16] <ikonia> righteous: I don't wish to help at this time
[23:16] <Draggor> qtparted is not in the repo
[23:16] <ikonia> really ? when did that get removed
[23:16] <righteous> because the topic isn't policy enforcement (which isnt the issue) it's #kubuntu only, so you stating that you dont wish to help is offtopic; please stay on topic.
[23:16] <Draggor> I'm actually on the live cd right now, I know a gui partitioner is there
[23:17] <Draggor> but I don't know how to access it outside of the installer
[23:17] <ikonia> righteous: stop now - this will be your only warning
[23:17] <ikonia> !info qtparted
[23:17] <ikonia> Draggor: I'm shocked by that, hang on
[23:17] <righteous> your warning is offtopic, this is a kubuntu-only channel.  so can you help?
[23:17] <ubuntu> hi
[23:18] <Draggor> qtparted has not been in 9.04 either I believe
[23:18] <ikonia> !info kparted
[23:18] <ikonia> wow, kparteds not ther etoo
[23:18] <kaddi> ikonia: Draggor isn't it know callled partition-manager?
[23:19] <kaddi> !partitionmanager
[23:19] <ikonia> kaddi: I'm hoping you can tell me
[23:19] <Draggor> Not in my livecd repo
[23:19] <Draggor> and that program is not available to me to run via terminal
[23:19] <kaddi> i think there was a name switch for 9.04. partitionmanager is the equivalent of gparted
[23:19] <Draggor> nor in th ekmenu anywhere
[23:19] <kaddi> i believe
[23:20] <ikonia> kaddi: well spotted, thank you
[23:20] <ikonia> Draggor: you can install on the livecd
[23:20] <ubuntu> I have a major issue.  I burnt an Ubuntu CD, and then proceeded to install it.  But unfortunately, the cd had a spec on it, and was defective, so the install failed near the end.  But Ubuntu didn't quit, and booted into Live CD mode.  Now, I have the cd in the rom, and another blank cd, so I would like to burn it, but I can't eject the current cd.  I can mount the iso on hard drive no problem, but I can't burn it, cause the live cd
[23:20] <ubuntu>  is using the cdrom. So, what I am wondering, is there a way to autoplay the iso on my hdd.  Cause when I mount it, I see the content, but the installer doesn't begin
[23:20] <Draggor> As I just said, partitionmanager is not in my repo
[23:21] <Draggor> is it in universe or multiverse?
[23:21] <kaddi> Draggor: universe
[23:21] <Draggor> My confusion still remains:  The installer clearly has a partition manager in it, yet I cannot access it?
[23:22] <Draggor> aaaaaaaaand getting update errors?  Joy
[23:22] <Draggor> Error occurred during signature verification
[23:22] <think43> How do you autoplay a mounted ubuntoCD1.iso CD
[23:23] <ikonia> Draggor: I've not looked what partition tools the #kubuntu current installed uses, what livecd are you using
[23:23] <Draggor> kubuntu 9.10 x64
[23:28] <enrique> hola
[23:29] <Draggor> It seems like it has its own gui in python/qt for the partitioner (it being ubiquity)
[23:29] <kaddi> !hi | enrique
[23:31] <Draggor> I suppose I'll try a restart and grab gparted
[23:32] <ikonia> Draggor: that's frustrating.......
[23:32] <Draggor> ikonia: Tell me about it
[23:33] <Draggor> If I could make a suggestion, it owuld to be to include a standalone partitioner on the livecd
[23:33] <Draggor> be it gparted, partionmanager, or somehow expose ubiquity's partitioner (though that one isn't anywhere near as powerful as the others)
[23:33] <ikonia> Draggor: I'm surprised there is not
[23:34] <Draggor> I know it used to be that way
[23:37] <phoenixz> And wohoo!!! Lucid alpha 2 seems to have fixed like 99% of my problems!!
[23:38] <phoenixz> If it keeps up like this, I can finally forget the nightmare the 9.xx line was
[23:38] <Draggor> ugh, and now I get a size mismatch on trying to install gparted
[23:38] <Draggor> Hate to say it, going to have to go with another livecd here
[23:40] <kaddi> hehe, nice to hear phoenixz :O)
[23:40] <Draggor> unless someone knows how to work parted at the command line to resize
[23:40] <phoenixz> WaltzingAlong: lucid ROCKS!
[23:40] <phoenixz> WaltzingAlong: fixed all graph problems.. my lap is now FAAAAAAAAAAAST! :)
[23:40] <Mamarok> phoenixz: please do not shout
[23:41] <Draggor> what is lucid?
[23:42] <kaddi> the next release of ubuntu
[23:42] <phoenixz> Mamarok: oh come on! Let me have my 2 seconds of fun! :)
[23:42] <Draggor> Oh, nm, <---dumb
[23:42] <phoenixz> Draggor: 10.04....
[23:42] <Draggor> It's been a long work day
[23:50] <nico__> does anyone know how to get games like conquer 2.0 to run in  play on linux?
[23:55] <mudassar> Hello, please some opencv expert, help me with this error buffer underflow i=0
[23:59] <mudassar> anyone ?