| geser | Drakeson: firefox --safe-mode, disable all extensions and enable them one by one (or in groups) till you find the one | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| arand | geser: Third time mentioned ;) | 00:00 |
| Drakeson | geser: I know the ones. what to do after that? | 00:01 |
| geser | keep them disabled till they are fixed and file bugs where necessary | 00:02 |
| ZykoticK9 | i've seen a couple of people mention issues with slow networking in relation to karmic in #ubuntu, but in my lucid install eth0 (marvell gigabit onboard, lscpi http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m9e7661b ) seems to be maxing out around 150k. any thoughts? | 00:43 |
| pasjr | dose anyone know anything about ralink 2870 usb n adapters and 10.04 | 01:31 |
| pasjr | dose anyone know anything about ralink 2870 usb n adapters and 10.04 | 01:40 |
| charlie-tca | pasjr: does not appear to be anyone that does at this time. Perhaps wait a bit and see if someone who is busy right now can help later | 01:43 |
| pasjr | Thanks, this is beyond agravating | 01:43 |
| macosxtiger | hello my friends will someone please help me with something i am looking for advice on a peice of software that will work well on a beta of lucid | 02:41 |
| macosxtiger | i am looking for a screen recording software | 02:41 |
| macosxtiger | too show other people what i am going on my screen | 02:42 |
| Mage__ | i will look that up, i can't remember off the top of my head | 02:42 |
| macosxtiger | these suboxen are making me sick, sorry a little off topic | 02:43 |
| Mage__ | i see one in the repository called RecordMyDesktop | 02:44 |
| macosxtiger | gtk or the none gtk one | 02:45 |
| Mage__ | you will need that one and gtk-recordmydesktop | 02:45 |
| macosxtiger | k | 02:45 |
| Mage__ | hope that helps | 02:46 |
| macosxtiger | wow ok that seems to be exactly what i was looking for thanks | 02:48 |
| arand | recordmydesktop can also be run from the terminal | 02:48 |
| Mage__ | yes | 02:48 |
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| danbhfive | !screencast | 02:56 |
| ubottu | Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Xvidcap, pyvnc2swf. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts. | 02:56 |
| razertek | what is the name of the netowrk hardware driver in lucid? | 03:05 |
| razertek | !network hardware driver | 03:06 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 03:06 |
| un214 | Is there a post-hibernate hook somewhere? | 03:12 |
| un214 | I've got this weird problem where my network state won't come back after hibernate | 03:13 |
| razertek | what is the network hardware kenel module for modprobe in lucid? | 03:14 |
| danbhfive | razertek: Im not that knowledgeable, but your questions seems ambiguous. | 03:15 |
| razertek | yea i guess what i am reading is refering to the module of the eth0 hardware itself...iam trying to load my eth0 becuase i get ignoring unknown interface when i do a network restart or ifup eth0 | 03:17 |
| razertek | yea i guess what i am reading is refering to the module of the eth0 hardware itself...iam trying to load my eth0 becuase i get ignoring unknown interface when i do a network restart or ifup eth0 | 03:17 |
| danbhfive | razertek: Im pretty sure that everyone ethernet card use a specific module for its driver, and the name won't change between releases, just the version | 03:19 |
| razertek | hmm | 03:19 |
| danbhfive | *every | 03:20 |
| macosxtiger | can anyone make a suggestion on an ftp server with a GUI front end with many fetures? | 03:21 |
| macosxtiger | please? | 03:28 |
| macosxtiger | #ubuntu | 03:28 |
| FiremanEd | macosxtiger: Are you using Lucid Alpha 2? | 03:32 |
| macosxtiger | how do i find out witch version i am using | 03:32 |
| FiremanEd | via the gui: Administration>System Monitor>system tab | 03:33 |
| ZykoticK9 | vita the cli: "lsb_release -a" :) | 03:34 |
| FiremanEd | that too ;) | 03:34 |
| macosxtiger | english version please | 03:35 |
| macosxtiger | No LSB modules are available. | 03:36 |
| macosxtiger | Distributor ID:Ubuntu | 03:36 |
| macosxtiger | Description:Ubuntu lucid (development branch) | 03:36 |
| macosxtiger | Release:10.04 | 03:36 |
| macosxtiger | Codename:lucid | 03:36 |
| macosxtiger | does that help? | 03:41 |
| macosxtiger | firemaned i do apreciate your help so far but i do not understand how there can be what seems like 100 people in this channel and only you and i are talking on the main chat | 03:42 |
| BluesKaj | macosxtiger, sometimes too many cooks can confuse the solution | 03:49 |
| RAOF | Most people probably don't know of any GUI ftp servers (what does that even mean?) | 03:49 |
| macosxtiger | i am sorry i am looking to run a ftp server and would like a GUI front end for configuration | 03:50 |
| macosxtiger | any suggegstions | 03:50 |
| macosxtiger | ** | 03:50 |
| BluesKaj | !ftp | 03:50 |
| ubottu | FTP clients: Nautilus (Places -> Connect to server), gFTP, FileZilla (for !GNOME); Konqueror, Kasablanca, KFTPGrabber (for !KDE); FireFTP (for Firefox); ftp, lftp (for !cli) - See also !FTPd | 03:50 |
| macosxtiger | ill try another channel | 03:51 |
| FiremanEd | well! | 03:51 |
| BluesKaj | ftpclients include a gui and server ....no patience | 03:54 |
| FiremanEd | yeah, I thought so | 03:54 |
| RAOF | I don't know of any ftp servers which have GUI configuration clients, but then I haven't really looked for one, either. | 03:56 |
| ZykoticK9 | I can't believe it! Quake4 audio isn't messed up on Lucid :) Haven't been able to play since 9.04! | 03:56 |
| BluesKaj | did you have pulseaudo installed on 9.04, ZykoticK9? | 03:58 |
| ZykoticK9 | BluesKaj, i think so - pulse was default on 9.04 wasn't it? i think so. | 03:59 |
| BluesKaj | do you still have it? | 03:59 |
| ZykoticK9 | pulse in lucid? yup. -- removing pulse from karmic caused more problems then it solved (although quake4 was almost playable without pulse on karmic) | 04:00 |
| BluesKaj | i'm trying find out what pulseaudio apps work on...depends on your audio card in most cases ...pulseaudio seems to benefit those with fancy surround and multiple didgital IOs etc | 04:02 |
| ZykoticK9 | my audio in onboard, certainly not fancy | 04:02 |
| RAOF | Or those with a server box on the home network plugged into a stereo, or who plug in USB speakers, or have a USB headset, or have a bluetooth headset, or... | 04:03 |
| BluesKaj | ZykoticK9, I have a plain jane soundcard with a surround option ...but very limited and pulseaudio doesn't sound good with it. | 04:04 |
| BluesKaj | it's an extra layer of unessary processing in my case | 04:05 |
| BluesKaj | unecessary | 04:05 |
| RAOF | Unnecessary until you want to plug in a usb headset :) | 04:06 |
| BluesKaj | RAOF, pulseaudio isn't required for streaming audio tho | 04:06 |
| RAOF | True. It just makes it much better. | 04:07 |
| BluesKaj | i use a std headset, works fine | 04:07 |
| BluesKaj | RAOF, better, how? | 04:07 |
| RAOF | Better latency reporting (ie: lip sync), easier to dynamically route audio (ie: my laptop suspends and wakes up outside my home network, and all my audio streams now play though the internal card) | 04:08 |
| BluesKaj | you need pulseaudio for better latency ...wow | 04:10 |
| RAOF | It's been designed for (a) minimum latency and (b) accurate latency reporting, yes. | 04:10 |
| BluesKaj | I just stream to the tiVo over the network, no pulseaudio required there. | 04:11 |
| BluesKaj | please expain accurate latency reporting to me | 04:12 |
| BluesKaj | er explain | 04:12 |
| RAOF | Knowing how long it takes from the client submitting a buffer full of audio until it actually gets played through the speakers. | 04:14 |
| RAOF | This is obviously useful when you're trying to synchronise audio & video. | 04:14 |
| BluesKaj | hmm well if PA needs latency control then perhaps the sync for audio and video would do better with running it thru ffmpeg | 04:16 |
| RAOF | ffmpeg isn't what you think it is. | 04:16 |
| RAOF | FFmpeg is just a client - its job ends at “submit a buffer full of audio”. It doesn't actually push that audio through to the hardware, through any hardware buffer(s), and out through the speakers. | 04:17 |
| BluesKaj | and pulseaudio isn't a sound server that's just another layer of processing which in most cases isn't required ? | 04:20 |
| RAOF | I'd dispute the “most cases”. | 04:21 |
| RAOF | In most cases your soundcard can't do hardware mixing, so you need a sound server. | 04:21 |
| BluesKaj | i'd love to stay up and debate this but it's bedtime here.. i do hope pulseaudio can be of some benefit to some, but so far it's not needed on my setup | 04:22 |
| RAOF | That may be true; it's possible that you've got extremely simple audio needs. | 04:23 |
| BluesKaj | I have simple audio needs on my pc,,my media room is adifferent...that's where most of our music and video action is | 04:24 |
| BluesKaj | so i'll bid you good night RAOF..been an interesting discussion :) | 04:25 |
| macosxtiger | anyone else having problems with wine, by it self it isnt working atall for me when i use crossover they is no sound and when i use playonlinux everything works fine but sometimes i need to use JUST wine and not mess with playonlynex | 06:34 |
| xxploit | macosxtiger, im using wine 1.37 from the ppa(karmic since lucid isnt there yet) without problems | 06:44 |
| hifi | 1.1.37 | 06:49 |
| macosxtiger | playonlinux uses wine and everything is fine, and line and shine and dine but when i rigt click and try to do an open with wine windows program loaded absolutly nothing happens | 06:50 |
| macosxtiger | its no biggie i am sure they will ficks it | 06:51 |
| bilkulbekar | whois arvind_khadri | 10:00 |
| arvind_khadri | bilkulbekar, you missed the / :P | 10:00 |
| JoshuaL | do the proprietary ati drivers work with 10.04? | 10:47 |
| BUGabundo | looking for someone willing to hack pidgin to patch an icon to show up android icon, like gtalk labs robot :D | 11:18 |
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| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_lunch | ||
| === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_afk | ||
| BluesKaj | hey folks | 13:46 |
| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_afk | ||
| macosxtiger | ping | 14:54 |
| laumonier | i try to launch ubuntu 10.04 on my usb key then i come to the live boot screen and then even if i choose try without installing or install i have a black screen next someone could help me???? | 14:55 |
| macosxtiger | is booting from a usb drive on the top of your boot order on the bios of your pc? | 14:57 |
| laumonier | yy | 14:57 |
| arand | laumonier: edit the bootline and remove the quiet and splash options. | 14:58 |
| laumonier | ok il try that | 14:58 |
| arand | laumonier: that might tell you something more about *where* the preoblem is | 14:58 |
| arand | laumonier: Also might want to try the acpi=off noapic options.. | 14:58 |
| laumonier | cause i install karmic the same way and i have no problem | 14:59 |
| laumonier | if i cant install linx i go back to 8.04 cause karmic suxx | 15:00 |
| macosxtiger | lucid is the best | 15:00 |
| macosxtiger | even the alpha | 15:00 |
| macosxtiger | 2 | 15:00 |
| laumonier | you install it? | 15:01 |
| macosxtiger | i am running it right now | 15:01 |
| macosxtiger | it works perfect | 15:01 |
| mzz | lucid's decent so far. | 15:01 |
| mzz | (although I had a few kms-related issues earlier on a radeon) | 15:01 |
| laumonier | because with karmic i have a lot of problem with my ati driver | 15:01 |
| macosxtiger | what ati card do you have how old or new is it? | 15:02 |
| laumonier | pretty old | 15:02 |
| laumonier | fglrx dont work with | 15:02 |
| laumonier | open driver radeon works a little but it still suxx | 15:03 |
| macosxtiger | i hate to say this but for some reson the newer buntu distro are not good at handing ati but an older version could very easily get your ati to work | 15:03 |
| macosxtiger | do something like old version of buntu and only update the kernel | 15:03 |
| laumonier | i have eard that lucid linx was better with ati card no? | 15:03 |
| Pici | ATI drops support for older cards in their newer drivers. | 15:03 |
| * Blues-Man always pleased to listening Inti Illimani :) | 15:04 | |
| macosxtiger | is anyone else hhaving problems with wine in lucid, for some reson wine byitself dosnt work. but when i use playonlinux it works fine | 15:12 |
| macosxtiger | but i cant allways use playon | 15:12 |
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| macosxtiger | sometimes i need the right click wine application loader | 15:12 |
| laumonier | i have just to remove splash and quiet options from my syslinux.cfg file isn't it? | 15:14 |
| macosxtiger | or costom boot option | 15:14 |
| benste | Hi, lucid will have FF 3.6 ? | 15:16 |
| benste | !firefox > benste | 15:17 |
| ubottu | benste, please see my private message | 15:17 |
| mzz | (answer is yes) | 15:17 |
| benste | thx | 15:17 |
| mzz | that is: it has it already, and I doubt that'll be rolled back | 15:17 |
| benste | mzz: I#m usre it woun't be but didn't grab the lateset build :-) | 15:18 |
| benste | mzz: buy the way you may arange that the ! firefox includes the 3.6 as version and not a note to 3.5 - possible ? | 15:19 |
| mzz | benste: packages.ubuntu.com can help you check things like this. | 15:19 |
| mzz | benste: I have no idea if I can change that. If I can, so can you :) | 15:19 |
| * mzz is just a regular user. | 15:19 | |
| * benste me too :-) | 15:19 | |
| IdleOne | !firefox > IdleOne | 15:37 |
| ubottu | IdleOne, please see my private message | 15:37 |
| om26er | fedora had btrfs support in 12 so will lucid have it? | 15:38 |
| macosxtiger | what is btrfs? | 15:52 |
| jpds | !btrfs | 15:52 |
| yofel | macosxtiger: a filesystem (in development) | 15:52 |
| yofel | macosxtiger: http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/ | 15:53 |
| macosxtiger | that seems like something for terabytedrives and server computers | 15:54 |
| macosxtiger | no? | 15:54 |
| ripps | Is gwibber 2.29 from the the daily-ppa gonna get into Lucid main? | 15:57 |
| macosxtiger | i use XFS and i think its awesome i can format a 80gig partition in a few seconds and it seems way faster than ext3 or ext4 but no i cannt grub boot from a XFS partition | 16:01 |
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| chris| | btrfs in lucif would be awesome, but I seriously doubt it. LTS and so on... | 16:05 |
| yofel | well, it could be an option, but it's way too early as a default | 16:06 |
| mzz | waaaay too early | 16:06 |
| Volkodav | macosxtiger: just create /boot partiton with ext2/3/4 - that's all | 16:06 |
| chris| | it could be, but canonical is pretty conservative when it's coming to Lucid | 16:06 |
| mzz | " is under heavy development, and is not suitable for any uses other than benchmarking and review" says the btrfs homepage. In bold, in a very visible red box. | 16:07 |
| chris| | btrfs is awesome on partitions where stability is not that big a deal, like / | 16:07 |
| mzz | "The Btrfs disk format is not yet finalized", too | 16:07 |
| mzz | (although it's unlikely it'll actually change, iirc) | 16:07 |
| mzz | I'd be bothered if btrfs was more than an option *with* a noisy warning at install time | 16:08 |
| chris| | doesn't really matter if you don't build vanilla kernels on a weekly basis | 16:08 |
| chris| | I'd really like to give btrfs some serious trys, but I'm affraid I've to ditch Ubuntu to do that | 16:12 |
| chris| | ext4 is getting slower by the minute | 16:13 |
| Volkodav | I have the sound volume applet gone in gnome ? Anybody else with this issue ? | 16:21 |
| mzz | nope, but my lucid install is several hours ancient. | 16:21 |
| * mzz updates and upgrades | 16:22 | |
| mzz | ah, lots of sound stuff in this one | 16:23 |
| Volkodav | Anybody configured dual heads in xfce with intel video driver ? | 16:28 |
| macosxtiger | ping | 16:40 |
| chris| | pong? | 16:41 |
| dupondje | PANG ! | 16:41 |
| dupondje | ahaha :D you die :) | 16:41 |
| chris| | again? | 16:41 |
| macosxtiger | iv noticed flash HD porn videos are running SOO smoothly in lucid, props canoical | 16:52 |
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| alex_mayorga | anyone with both bluetooth mouse and headphones? | 17:22 |
| ZykoticK9 | Commercial games I have running under 64bit Lucid: Quake 3 (points release), Quake 4, Prey (demo), ET:Quake Wars (demo), Serious Sam: the First Encounter, UT2004 (32bit version), UT (1999). FAILS: UT2004 (64bit), Medal of Honor, Loki Demos | 17:26 |
| ZykoticK9 | Volkodav, re-volume applet, did you try removing Pulseaudio from your system? | 17:30 |
| alex_mayorga | dunno if it's the bluetooth chip on any of my devices, but if I move the mouse, the audio would start crackling and eventually be shut off entirely | 17:35 |
| Volkodav | ZykoticK9: what do you mean remove pulseaudio and just leave alsa or re-volume ? | 17:39 |
| ZykoticK9 | Volkodav, "if" you remove Pulse the first sign is the missing volume control - that's why I asked. | 17:41 |
| Volkodav | well - I just checked - it is installed but the applet is missing | 17:42 |
| mzz | ZykoticK9: I'm seeing some recent changes to pulseaudio in updates having to do with the volume control applet | 17:42 |
| mzz | err, that may have been the wrong nick | 17:42 |
| mzz | Volkodav: ^^^ | 17:42 |
| Volkodav | yeah | 17:42 |
| Volkodav | well I figured maybe somebody else has the same issue | 17:43 |
| Volkodav | and I have it on 2 machines | 17:43 |
| Volkodav | 32 and 64 bit | 17:43 |
| Volkodav | I'll give it some for now | 17:43 |
| Volkodav | installed gnome-alsa mixer - that takes care of it | 17:44 |
| Volkodav | for now | 17:45 |
| mzz | I'd just give it some time, but I'm lazy like that. | 17:45 |
| Volkodav | So am I | 17:46 |
| alex_mayorga | is there a channel for Bluetooth stuff? | 17:49 |
| dsfdsfee | !ops | 18:04 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! | 18:04 |
| * lupine_85 spots a bunch of packages going past with versions like 4.5.3really-4.5.2 | 18:23 | |
| lupine_85 | WTF? | 18:23 |
| tsimpson | people don't like to use epochs | 18:26 |
| yofel | wasn't that the last-minute downgrade of qt for karmic? | 18:26 |
| macosxtiger | dont worry | 18:44 |
| Ian_Corne | be happy? | 18:45 |
| rtgz | Here I go again - is there any rationale behind icon removal by default in Lucid Lynx and the absence of UI to revert this change? | 19:01 |
| rtgz | Hi :) | 19:01 |
| ZykoticK9 | interesting, game audio is Doom 3 is crappy in Lucid, but Quake 4's is not. This is the first game under Lucid that has had audio issues, almost everything in Karmic did! So it's a HUGE improvement. | 19:05 |
| rtgz | http://www.osnews.com/story/21935/GNOME_To_Drop_Icons_in_Buttons_Menus | 19:08 |
| rtgz | awesome | 19:08 |
| mzz | I thought there was ui somewhere. Lemme try to find it again | 19:17 |
| mzz | huh, must be confused. | 19:18 |
| rtgz | mzz, there was UI for that and now it is missing. All we have now is a gconf entry ;) | 19:19 |
| mzz | I thought there was a prefwindow that let you configure things like whether alt needs to be pressed before keyboard shortcuts are displayed, and that it included a checkbox for those icons | 19:19 |
| mzz | I can't find that entire prefpanel right now | 19:19 |
| rtgz | mzz, yes, it is no longer in the Appearance dialog | 19:20 |
| mzz | ah, yes, interface tab in appearance dialog, still there in karmic. | 19:20 |
| mzz | and it does have a "Show icons in menus" checkbox. | 19:20 |
| * mzz checks changelog | 19:20 | |
| mzz | gnome bug 592756 | 19:21 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 592756 in Appearance "remove interface tab" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592756 | 19:21 |
| mzz | mmm, usual thing where I completely agree with removing preferences except where there's one where I disagree with the default :) | 19:22 |
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| rtgz | so far the best 'tweak app' is "gconftool -s /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons -t bool true" | 19:36 |
| rtgz | :) | 19:36 |
| rtgz | but this will create a lot of bug reports from people who reinstall ubuntu from scratch.. i.e. "Where are all my icons?" Even the System/Preferences/Administration menu looks scary with icons disabled | 19:41 |
| mzz | rtgz: I think there's actually a gtweakui, but I haven't used it recently | 19:57 |
| mzz | I'd expect it to cover this, assuming it still exists | 19:57 |
| rtgz | mzz, apps look really scary w/o icons in the menus. I am ok with no icons on buttons, but menu item selection suddenly start to require twice as much time to be located :( | 20:00 |
| mzz | I just like the pretty pictures. | 20:01 |
| mzz | but I can find my way around in gconf if I have to, so this isn't the kind of thing I normally complain about. | 20:01 |
| rtgz | mzz, I am afraid that people who expect X icon near "close" menu entry will complain... | 20:02 |
| rtgz | heh | 20:02 |
| rtgz | let's remove minimize, maximize and close icons from metacity replacing them with the text only. | 20:03 |
| rtgz | grrr | 20:03 |
| Ian_Corne | what's the idea behind removing the icons? | 20:44 |
| arand | Ian_Corne: supposed to look cleaner... | 20:46 |
| switchgirl | hi anyone got a list of additional repo's to add to the sources? | 21:02 |
| ChogyDan | for what? | 21:02 |
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| switchgirl | anything | 21:03 |
| duffydack | rsync -av --delete . /media/usbdrive/home/duffydack is the command I always issue, but I have just deleted a folder from the source and its not deleting it from the backup folder? how come? | 21:06 |
| ChogyDan | switchgirl: I usually just install repos that give me what I want, like chromium | 21:07 |
| charlie-tca | medibuntu for audio/video | 21:08 |
| Raydiation | when will be the official feature freeze | 21:12 |
| yofel | !schedule | Raydiation | 21:12 |
| ubottu | Raydiation: A schedule of Lucid Lynx (10.04) release milestones can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule | 21:12 |
| Raydiation | ty | 21:12 |
| Raydiation | hm the new django 1.2 comes out at 9th of march :/ | 21:13 |
| BUGabundo | ahhhh the lovely smell of trolling in the devel-discuss ML :p | 21:18 |
| charlie-tca | BUGabundo: you have been missed there | 21:24 |
| BUGabundo | thanks | 21:24 |
| BUGabundo | it will be only this week | 21:24 |
| BUGabundo | vacations | 21:24 |
| BUGabundo | so putting some order in emails | 21:24 |
| kklimonda | Raydiation: does it? | 21:24 |
| BUGabundo | 2.5K in devel/devel-discuss :( | 21:24 |
| kklimonda | Raydiation: aren't they already behind the schedule? | 21:24 |
| * BUGabundo must learn speed reading, and not half reading | 21:25 | |
| BUGabundo | charlie-tca: you know whats funny? | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | what? | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | picking up the ML after over one year away | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | Most of what is in discussion there? | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | and its just the same stuff going on | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | darn cycles | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | new ppl | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | more trolss | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | and same things | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, yeah, that too. I noticed that when I missed about 6 months | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | guess ill just delete a bunch of threads | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | they come new, fresh, full of idealism | 21:27 |
| BUGabundo | fight everyone | 21:27 |
| BUGabundo | get turned down by the establishment | 21:27 |
| BUGabundo | and either go quiet or away | 21:27 |
| BUGabundo | mew | 21:27 |
| BUGabundo | darn top posting :(((( | 21:27 |
| charlie-tca | That gets worse every month | 21:28 |
| * BUGabundo wishes for a mailman plugin to reorder gmail emails | 21:28 | |
| * BUGabundo snaps an user : "Please avoid Top-Posting, and use and abuse of Snipping. Thanks in advance. Reply below:" | 21:34 | |
| BUGabundo | I wonder if that will teach a single user how to use MLs | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | man, don't this ppl start in ubuntu-users ML? | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | that's a great place to be sanded and formated.... and learn, learn a LOT | 21:34 |
| lupine_86 | heee, dumped to terminal on reboot. that's what I like | 21:36 |
| lupine_86 | on the bright side, it's a 1920x1080 terminal | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | Not all of them, no. There are some now that don't seem to know there is a users mailing list | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | no wonder devs leave that list :( | 21:37 |
| alex_mayorga | feed reader suggestions anyone? | 21:40 |
| alex_mayorga | is there one shipped with Lucid? | 21:40 |
| Volkodav | I use TB | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | chromium and greader ? | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | add better greader plugin to either chromium or Firefox | 21:41 |
| alex_mayorga | Volkodav, TB? | 21:41 |
| Volkodav | Thunderbird-3,0 | 21:42 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo, kind of looking for an offline kind of thing | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | then you are using the wrong tool | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | RSS is for news | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | for real time | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | not archive | 21:43 |
| alex_mayorga | I might, you're right | 21:43 |
| BUGabundo | and those are not my words | 21:43 |
| BUGabundo | but from the creator of RSS | 21:44 |
| alex_mayorga | I guess the whole "synching and going offline" paradigm is now death | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | no | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | google gears allows you that | 21:44 |
| alex_mayorga | what does one uses for that then? | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | there are many apps to pull RSS | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | or sync with online feed readers | 21:45 |
| Volkodav | too many | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | but that's the wrong way of doing it | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | alex_mayorga: I like liferea for feeds | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | its subverting the tool | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | to something it was not designed to | 21:45 |
| lupine_86 | happens all the time | 21:45 |
| lupine_86 | like this "linux" thing | 21:45 |
| lupine_86 | can you believe I got it working on amd64? | 21:45 |
| lupine_86 | crazy stuff ;) | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | plus, and this is my POV, the world of information is not meant to be dealt offline | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | lupine_86: been running on amd64 for over a year now | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | I'm not saying you can't. just that you shouldn't, and better look at it from outside of the box | 21:46 |
| lupine_86 | erm, yes, me too. it was a witty quip | 21:47 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo, out of curiosity, what would you say is the right tool for download and read latter | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | I don't do it | 21:47 |
| alex_mayorga | kind of like miro for text? | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | other then on my android | 21:47 |
| kklimonda | google reader with google gears extension :) | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | and that's just because 3G is expensive | 21:47 |
| kklimonda | that's how I've done it before I got my android | 21:47 |
| alex_mayorga | forgot that part there, no google if possible :) | 21:49 |
| Volkodav | TB has offlime mode too | 21:49 |
| Volkodav | off ine* | 21:50 |
| alex_mayorga | RSSOwl looks interesting | 21:50 |
| alex_mayorga | thanks for chipping in | 21:50 |
| alex_mayorga | !chromium | 21:52 |
| ubottu | You can get testing builds for Chromium at https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa | 21:52 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo, how much is expensive for 3G? | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | alex_mayorga: not that chromium *is* all about google, but it does suffer much influence :D | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | but also does from Apple :D | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | alex_mayorga: something along 1€ /day, 7.5€ / month for 250MBs, 15€ for 500MBs | 21:54 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo, ouch that's expensive | 21:55 |
| alex_mayorga | I got 3GB a month for ~MXN$230 | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | hence me caching it as possible when over wifi | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | for 3G ? mobile and voice? | 21:55 |
| alex_mayorga | just data | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | not those usb dongle modem, local plans | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | those are diff | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | but still expensive | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | sec | 21:56 |
| alex_mayorga | but I can get voice with prepaid cards | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | ok minute... seems my mouse died | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | http://www.tmn.pt/portal/site/tmn/menuitem.0204b1bea2d53c6dd205fb10751056a0/?vgnextoid=7a6867177bbd1110VgnVCM1000005401650aRCRD | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | here for data | 21:57 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo. http://www.movistar.com.mx/servicios/internet.html click "Planes" I hate my carrier for Flash abuse | 21:59 |
| UbuntuUser | will thunderbird3 be included in lucid? | 22:10 |
| kklimonda | UbuntuUser: bug 314668 | 22:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 314668 in baltix "[needs-packaging] Thunderbird 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314668 | 22:11 |
| UbuntuUser | ty for answering my question :) | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | ahah | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | I miss those times where I would be faster then the bot it self :((( | 22:14 |
| dupondje- | E: Couldn't configure pre-depend openoffice.org-core for openoffice.org-filter-binfilter, probably a dependency cycle. | 22:32 |
| dupondje- | mm :P | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | another one? | 22:32 |
| arand | Are →LTS upgrades only possible from LTS? | 23:34 |
| mzz | arand: iirc: you can upgrade to an LTS release from the previous LTS or regular release. | 23:35 |
| mzz | but I might be wrong. | 23:35 |
| RAOF | That's right. | 23:35 |
| mzz | (so for lucid that'll be karmic and hardy) | 23:35 |
| arand | Ok, the upgrade wiki is horribly out-of-date... | 23:35 |
| arand | I thought that was the case, but unsure. | 23:36 |
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