[00:00] Drakeson: firefox --safe-mode, disable all extensions and enable them one by one (or in groups) till you find the one [00:00] geser: Third time mentioned ;) [00:01] geser: I know the ones. what to do after that? [00:02] keep them disabled till they are fixed and file bugs where necessary [00:43] i've seen a couple of people mention issues with slow networking in relation to karmic in #ubuntu, but in my lucid install eth0 (marvell gigabit onboard, lscpi http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m9e7661b ) seems to be maxing out around 150k. any thoughts? [01:31] dose anyone know anything about ralink 2870 usb n adapters and 10.04 [01:40] dose anyone know anything about ralink 2870 usb n adapters and 10.04 [01:43] pasjr: does not appear to be anyone that does at this time. Perhaps wait a bit and see if someone who is busy right now can help later [01:43] Thanks, this is beyond agravating [02:41] hello my friends will someone please help me with something i am looking for advice on a peice of software that will work well on a beta of lucid [02:41] i am looking for a screen recording software [02:42] too show other people what i am going on my screen [02:42] i will look that up, i can't remember off the top of my head [02:43] these suboxen are making me sick, sorry a little off topic [02:44] i see one in the repository called RecordMyDesktop [02:45] gtk or the none gtk one [02:45] you will need that one and gtk-recordmydesktop [02:45] k [02:46] hope that helps [02:48] wow ok that seems to be exactly what i was looking for thanks [02:48] recordmydesktop can also be run from the terminal [02:48] yes === jf is now known as Guest53569 [02:56] !screencast [02:56] Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Xvidcap, pyvnc2swf. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts. [03:05] what is the name of the netowrk hardware driver in lucid? [03:06] !network hardware driver [03:06] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [03:12] Is there a post-hibernate hook somewhere? [03:13] I've got this weird problem where my network state won't come back after hibernate [03:14] what is the network hardware kenel module for modprobe in lucid? [03:15] razertek: Im not that knowledgeable, but your questions seems ambiguous. [03:17] yea i guess what i am reading is refering to the module of the eth0 hardware itself...iam trying to load my eth0 becuase i get ignoring unknown interface when i do a network restart or ifup eth0 [03:17] yea i guess what i am reading is refering to the module of the eth0 hardware itself...iam trying to load my eth0 becuase i get ignoring unknown interface when i do a network restart or ifup eth0 [03:19] razertek: Im pretty sure that everyone ethernet card use a specific module for its driver, and the name won't change between releases, just the version [03:19] hmm [03:20] *every [03:21] can anyone make a suggestion on an ftp server with a GUI front end with many fetures? [03:28] please? [03:28] #ubuntu [03:32] macosxtiger: Are you using Lucid Alpha 2? [03:32] how do i find out witch version i am using [03:33] via the gui: Administration>System Monitor>system tab [03:34] vita the cli: "lsb_release -a" :) [03:34] that too ;) [03:35] english version please [03:36] No LSB modules are available. [03:36] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [03:36] Description: Ubuntu lucid (development branch) [03:36] Release: 10.04 [03:36] Codename: lucid [03:41] does that help? [03:42] firemaned i do apreciate your help so far but i do not understand how there can be what seems like 100 people in this channel and only you and i are talking on the main chat [03:49] macosxtiger, sometimes too many cooks can confuse the solution [03:49] Most people probably don't know of any GUI ftp servers (what does that even mean?) [03:50] i am sorry i am looking to run a ftp server and would like a GUI front end for configuration [03:50] any suggegstions [03:50] ** [03:50] !ftp [03:50] FTP clients: Nautilus (Places -> Connect to server), gFTP, FileZilla (for !GNOME); Konqueror, Kasablanca, KFTPGrabber (for !KDE); FireFTP (for Firefox); ftp, lftp (for !cli) - See also !FTPd [03:51] ill try another channel [03:51] well! [03:54] ftpclients include a gui and server ....no patience [03:54] yeah, I thought so [03:56] I don't know of any ftp servers which have GUI configuration clients, but then I haven't really looked for one, either. [03:56] I can't believe it! Quake4 audio isn't messed up on Lucid :) Haven't been able to play since 9.04! [03:58] did you have pulseaudo installed on 9.04, ZykoticK9? [03:59] BluesKaj, i think so - pulse was default on 9.04 wasn't it? i think so. [03:59] do you still have it? [04:00] pulse in lucid? yup. -- removing pulse from karmic caused more problems then it solved (although quake4 was almost playable without pulse on karmic) [04:02] i'm trying find out what pulseaudio apps work on...depends on your audio card in most cases ...pulseaudio seems to benefit those with fancy surround and multiple didgital IOs etc [04:02] my audio in onboard, certainly not fancy [04:03] Or those with a server box on the home network plugged into a stereo, or who plug in USB speakers, or have a USB headset, or have a bluetooth headset, or... [04:04] ZykoticK9, I have a plain jane soundcard with a surround option ...but very limited and pulseaudio doesn't sound good with it. [04:05] it's an extra layer of unessary processing in my case [04:05] unecessary [04:06] Unnecessary until you want to plug in a usb headset :) [04:06] RAOF, pulseaudio isn't required for streaming audio tho [04:07] True. It just makes it much better. [04:07] i use a std headset, works fine [04:07] RAOF, better, how? [04:08] Better latency reporting (ie: lip sync), easier to dynamically route audio (ie: my laptop suspends and wakes up outside my home network, and all my audio streams now play though the internal card) [04:10] you need pulseaudio for better latency ...wow [04:10] It's been designed for (a) minimum latency and (b) accurate latency reporting, yes. [04:11] I just stream to the tiVo over the network, no pulseaudio required there. [04:12] please expain accurate latency reporting to me [04:12] er explain [04:14] Knowing how long it takes from the client submitting a buffer full of audio until it actually gets played through the speakers. [04:14] This is obviously useful when you're trying to synchronise audio & video. [04:16] hmm well if PA needs latency control then perhaps the sync for audio and video would do better with running it thru ffmpeg [04:16] ffmpeg isn't what you think it is. [04:17] FFmpeg is just a client - its job ends at “submit a buffer full of audio”. It doesn't actually push that audio through to the hardware, through any hardware buffer(s), and out through the speakers. [04:20] and pulseaudio isn't a sound server that's just another layer of processing which in most cases isn't required ? [04:21] I'd dispute the “most cases”. [04:21] In most cases your soundcard can't do hardware mixing, so you need a sound server. [04:22] i'd love to stay up and debate this but it's bedtime here.. i do hope pulseaudio can be of some benefit to some, but so far it's not needed on my setup [04:23] That may be true; it's possible that you've got extremely simple audio needs. [04:24] I have simple audio needs on my pc,,my media room is adifferent...that's where most of our music and video action is [04:25] so i'll bid you good night RAOF..been an interesting discussion :) [06:34] anyone else having problems with wine, by it self it isnt working atall for me when i use crossover they is no sound and when i use playonlinux everything works fine but sometimes i need to use JUST wine and not mess with playonlynex [06:44] macosxtiger, im using wine 1.37 from the ppa(karmic since lucid isnt there yet) without problems [06:49] 1.1.37 [06:50] playonlinux uses wine and everything is fine, and line and shine and dine but when i rigt click and try to do an open with wine windows program loaded absolutly nothing happens [06:51] its no biggie i am sure they will ficks it [10:00] whois arvind_khadri [10:00] bilkulbekar, you missed the / :P [10:47] do the proprietary ati drivers work with 10.04? [11:18] looking for someone willing to hack pidgin to patch an icon to show up android icon, like gtalk labs robot :D === tremmons is now known as iflema === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_lunch === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_afk [13:46] hey folks === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_afk [14:54] ping [14:55] i try to launch ubuntu 10.04 on my usb key then i come to the live boot screen and then even if i choose try without installing or install i have a black screen next someone could help me???? [14:57] is booting from a usb drive on the top of your boot order on the bios of your pc? [14:57] yy [14:58] laumonier: edit the bootline and remove the quiet and splash options. [14:58] ok il try that [14:58] laumonier: that might tell you something more about *where* the preoblem is [14:58] laumonier: Also might want to try the acpi=off noapic options.. [14:59] cause i install karmic the same way and i have no problem [15:00] if i cant install linx i go back to 8.04 cause karmic suxx [15:00] lucid is the best [15:00] even the alpha [15:00] 2 [15:01] you install it? [15:01] i am running it right now [15:01] it works perfect [15:01] lucid's decent so far. [15:01] (although I had a few kms-related issues earlier on a radeon) [15:01] because with karmic i have a lot of problem with my ati driver [15:02] what ati card do you have how old or new is it? [15:02] pretty old [15:02] fglrx dont work with [15:03] open driver radeon works a little but it still suxx [15:03] i hate to say this but for some reson the newer buntu distro are not good at handing ati but an older version could very easily get your ati to work [15:03] do something like old version of buntu and only update the kernel [15:03] i have eard that lucid linx was better with ati card no? [15:03] ATI drops support for older cards in their newer drivers. [15:04] * Blues-Man always pleased to listening Inti Illimani :) [15:12] is anyone else hhaving problems with wine in lucid, for some reson wine byitself dosnt work. but when i use playonlinux it works fine [15:12] but i cant allways use playon === FEDE31C0 is now known as mescalinum [15:12] sometimes i need the right click wine application loader [15:14] i have just to remove splash and quiet options from my syslinux.cfg file isn't it? [15:14] or costom boot option [15:16] Hi, lucid will have FF 3.6 ? [15:17] !firefox > benste [15:17] benste, please see my private message [15:17] (answer is yes) [15:17] thx [15:17] that is: it has it already, and I doubt that'll be rolled back [15:18] mzz: I#m usre it woun't be but didn't grab the lateset build :-) [15:19] mzz: buy the way you may arange that the ! firefox includes the 3.6 as version and not a note to 3.5 - possible ? [15:19] benste: packages.ubuntu.com can help you check things like this. [15:19] benste: I have no idea if I can change that. If I can, so can you :) [15:19] * mzz is just a regular user. [15:19] * benste me too :-) [15:37] !firefox > IdleOne [15:37] IdleOne, please see my private message [15:38] fedora had btrfs support in 12 so will lucid have it? [15:52] what is btrfs? [15:52] !btrfs [15:52] macosxtiger: a filesystem (in development) [15:53] macosxtiger: http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/ [15:54] that seems like something for terabytedrives and server computers [15:54] no? [15:57] Is gwibber 2.29 from the the daily-ppa gonna get into Lucid main? [16:01] i use XFS and i think its awesome i can format a 80gig partition in a few seconds and it seems way faster than ext3 or ext4 but no i cannt grub boot from a XFS partition === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:05] btrfs in lucif would be awesome, but I seriously doubt it. LTS and so on... [16:06] well, it could be an option, but it's way too early as a default [16:06] waaaay too early [16:06] macosxtiger: just create /boot partiton with ext2/3/4 - that's all [16:06] it could be, but canonical is pretty conservative when it's coming to Lucid [16:07] " is under heavy development, and is not suitable for any uses other than benchmarking and review" says the btrfs homepage. In bold, in a very visible red box. [16:07] btrfs is awesome on partitions where stability is not that big a deal, like / [16:07] "The Btrfs disk format is not yet finalized", too [16:07] (although it's unlikely it'll actually change, iirc) [16:08] I'd be bothered if btrfs was more than an option *with* a noisy warning at install time [16:08] doesn't really matter if you don't build vanilla kernels on a weekly basis [16:12] I'd really like to give btrfs some serious trys, but I'm affraid I've to ditch Ubuntu to do that [16:13] ext4 is getting slower by the minute [16:21] I have the sound volume applet gone in gnome ? Anybody else with this issue ? [16:21] nope, but my lucid install is several hours ancient. [16:22] * mzz updates and upgrades [16:23] ah, lots of sound stuff in this one [16:28] Anybody configured dual heads in xfce with intel video driver ? [16:40] ping [16:41] pong? [16:41] PANG ! [16:41] ahaha :D you die :) [16:41] again? [16:52] iv noticed flash HD porn videos are running SOO smoothly in lucid, props canoical === CardinalXiminez_ is now known as CardinalFang [17:22] anyone with both bluetooth mouse and headphones? [17:26] Commercial games I have running under 64bit Lucid: Quake 3 (points release), Quake 4, Prey (demo), ET:Quake Wars (demo), Serious Sam: the First Encounter, UT2004 (32bit version), UT (1999). FAILS: UT2004 (64bit), Medal of Honor, Loki Demos [17:30] Volkodav, re-volume applet, did you try removing Pulseaudio from your system? [17:35] dunno if it's the bluetooth chip on any of my devices, but if I move the mouse, the audio would start crackling and eventually be shut off entirely [17:39] ZykoticK9: what do you mean remove pulseaudio and just leave alsa or re-volume ? [17:41] Volkodav, "if" you remove Pulse the first sign is the missing volume control - that's why I asked. [17:42] well - I just checked - it is installed but the applet is missing [17:42] ZykoticK9: I'm seeing some recent changes to pulseaudio in updates having to do with the volume control applet [17:42] err, that may have been the wrong nick [17:42] Volkodav: ^^^ [17:42] yeah [17:43] well I figured maybe somebody else has the same issue [17:43] and I have it on 2 machines [17:43] 32 and 64 bit [17:43] I'll give it some for now [17:44] installed gnome-alsa mixer - that takes care of it [17:45] for now [17:45] I'd just give it some time, but I'm lazy like that. [17:46] So am I [17:49] is there a channel for Bluetooth stuff? [18:04] !ops [18:04] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [18:23] * lupine_85 spots a bunch of packages going past with versions like 4.5.3really-4.5.2 [18:23] WTF? [18:26] people don't like to use epochs [18:26] wasn't that the last-minute downgrade of qt for karmic? [18:44] dont worry [18:45] be happy? [19:01] Here I go again - is there any rationale behind icon removal by default in Lucid Lynx and the absence of UI to revert this change? [19:01] Hi :) [19:05] interesting, game audio is Doom 3 is crappy in Lucid, but Quake 4's is not. This is the first game under Lucid that has had audio issues, almost everything in Karmic did! So it's a HUGE improvement. [19:08] http://www.osnews.com/story/21935/GNOME_To_Drop_Icons_in_Buttons_Menus [19:08] awesome [19:17] I thought there was ui somewhere. Lemme try to find it again [19:18] huh, must be confused. [19:19] mzz, there was UI for that and now it is missing. All we have now is a gconf entry ;) [19:19] I thought there was a prefwindow that let you configure things like whether alt needs to be pressed before keyboard shortcuts are displayed, and that it included a checkbox for those icons [19:19] I can't find that entire prefpanel right now [19:20] mzz, yes, it is no longer in the Appearance dialog [19:20] ah, yes, interface tab in appearance dialog, still there in karmic. [19:20] and it does have a "Show icons in menus" checkbox. [19:20] * mzz checks changelog [19:21] gnome bug 592756 [19:21] Gnome bug 592756 in Appearance "remove interface tab" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592756 [19:22] mmm, usual thing where I completely agree with removing preferences except where there's one where I disagree with the default :) === BUGabundo_afk is now known as BUGabundo [19:36] so far the best 'tweak app' is "gconftool -s /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons -t bool true" [19:36] :) [19:41] but this will create a lot of bug reports from people who reinstall ubuntu from scratch.. i.e. "Where are all my icons?" Even the System/Preferences/Administration menu looks scary with icons disabled [19:57] rtgz: I think there's actually a gtweakui, but I haven't used it recently [19:57] I'd expect it to cover this, assuming it still exists [20:00] mzz, apps look really scary w/o icons in the menus. I am ok with no icons on buttons, but menu item selection suddenly start to require twice as much time to be located :( [20:01] I just like the pretty pictures. [20:01] but I can find my way around in gconf if I have to, so this isn't the kind of thing I normally complain about. [20:02] mzz, I am afraid that people who expect X icon near "close" menu entry will complain... [20:02] heh [20:03] let's remove minimize, maximize and close icons from metacity replacing them with the text only. [20:03] grrr [20:44] what's the idea behind removing the icons? [20:46] Ian_Corne: supposed to look cleaner... [21:02] hi anyone got a list of additional repo's to add to the sources? [21:02] for what? === emma_ is now known as emma [21:03] anything [21:06] rsync -av --delete . /media/usbdrive/home/duffydack is the command I always issue, but I have just deleted a folder from the source and its not deleting it from the backup folder? how come? [21:07] switchgirl: I usually just install repos that give me what I want, like chromium [21:08] medibuntu for audio/video [21:12] when will be the official feature freeze [21:12] !schedule | Raydiation [21:12] Raydiation: A schedule of Lucid Lynx (10.04) release milestones can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [21:12] ty [21:13] hm the new django 1.2 comes out at 9th of march :/ [21:18] ahhhh the lovely smell of trolling in the devel-discuss ML :p [21:24] BUGabundo: you have been missed there [21:24] thanks [21:24] it will be only this week [21:24] vacations [21:24] so putting some order in emails [21:24] Raydiation: does it? [21:24] 2.5K in devel/devel-discuss :( [21:24] Raydiation: aren't they already behind the schedule? [21:25] * BUGabundo must learn speed reading, and not half reading [21:26] charlie-tca: you know whats funny? [21:26] what? [21:26] picking up the ML after over one year away [21:26] Most of what is in discussion there? [21:26] and its just the same stuff going on [21:26] darn cycles [21:26] new ppl [21:26] more trolss [21:26] and same things [21:26] Oh, yeah, that too. I noticed that when I missed about 6 months [21:26] guess ill just delete a bunch of threads [21:27] they come new, fresh, full of idealism [21:27] fight everyone [21:27] get turned down by the establishment [21:27] and either go quiet or away [21:27] mew [21:27] darn top posting :(((( [21:28] That gets worse every month [21:28] * BUGabundo wishes for a mailman plugin to reorder gmail emails [21:34] * BUGabundo snaps an user : "Please avoid Top-Posting, and use and abuse of Snipping. Thanks in advance. Reply below:" [21:34] I wonder if that will teach a single user how to use MLs [21:34] man, don't this ppl start in ubuntu-users ML? [21:34] that's a great place to be sanded and formated.... and learn, learn a LOT [21:36] heee, dumped to terminal on reboot. that's what I like [21:36] on the bright side, it's a 1920x1080 terminal [21:36] Not all of them, no. There are some now that don't seem to know there is a users mailing list [21:37] eheh [21:37] no wonder devs leave that list :( [21:40] feed reader suggestions anyone? [21:40] is there one shipped with Lucid? [21:41] I use TB [21:41] chromium and greader ? [21:41] add better greader plugin to either chromium or Firefox [21:41] Volkodav, TB? [21:42] Thunderbird-3,0 [21:42] BUGabundo, kind of looking for an offline kind of thing [21:42] then you are using the wrong tool [21:42] RSS is for news [21:42] for real time [21:43] not archive [21:43] I might, you're right [21:43] and those are not my words [21:44] but from the creator of RSS [21:44] I guess the whole "synching and going offline" paradigm is now death [21:44] no [21:44] google gears allows you that [21:44] what does one uses for that then? [21:44] there are many apps to pull RSS [21:45] or sync with online feed readers [21:45] too many [21:45] but that's the wrong way of doing it [21:45] alex_mayorga: I like liferea for feeds [21:45] its subverting the tool [21:45] to something it was not designed to [21:45] happens all the time [21:45] like this "linux" thing [21:45] can you believe I got it working on amd64? [21:45] crazy stuff ;) [21:45] plus, and this is my POV, the world of information is not meant to be dealt offline [21:46] lupine_86: been running on amd64 for over a year now [21:46] I'm not saying you can't. just that you shouldn't, and better look at it from outside of the box [21:47] erm, yes, me too. it was a witty quip [21:47] BUGabundo, out of curiosity, what would you say is the right tool for download and read latter [21:47] I don't do it [21:47] kind of like miro for text? [21:47] other then on my android [21:47] google reader with google gears extension :) [21:47] and that's just because 3G is expensive [21:47] that's how I've done it before I got my android [21:49] forgot that part there, no google if possible :) [21:49] TB has offlime mode too [21:50] off ine* [21:50] RSSOwl looks interesting [21:50] thanks for chipping in [21:52] !chromium [21:52] You can get testing builds for Chromium at https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa [21:53] BUGabundo, how much is expensive for 3G? [21:53] alex_mayorga: not that chromium *is* all about google, but it does suffer much influence :D [21:53] but also does from Apple :D [21:54] alex_mayorga: something along 1€ /day, 7.5€ / month for 250MBs, 15€ for 500MBs [21:55] BUGabundo, ouch that's expensive [21:55] I got 3GB a month for ~MXN$230 [21:55] hence me caching it as possible when over wifi [21:55] for 3G ? mobile and voice? [21:55] just data [21:55] not those usb dongle modem, local plans [21:55] ahh [21:55] those are diff [21:56] but still expensive [21:56] sec [21:56] but I can get voice with prepaid cards [21:56] ok minute... seems my mouse died [21:57] http://www.tmn.pt/portal/site/tmn/menuitem.0204b1bea2d53c6dd205fb10751056a0/?vgnextoid=7a6867177bbd1110VgnVCM1000005401650aRCRD [21:57] here for data [21:59] BUGabundo. http://www.movistar.com.mx/servicios/internet.html click "Planes" I hate my carrier for Flash abuse [22:10] will thunderbird3 be included in lucid? [22:11] UbuntuUser: bug 314668 [22:11] Launchpad bug 314668 in baltix "[needs-packaging] Thunderbird 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314668 [22:13] ty for answering my question :) [22:14] ahah [22:14] I miss those times where I would be faster then the bot it self :((( [22:32] E: Couldn't configure pre-depend openoffice.org-core for openoffice.org-filter-binfilter, probably a dependency cycle. [22:32] mm :P [22:32] eheh [22:32] another one? [23:34] Are →LTS upgrades only possible from LTS? [23:35] arand: iirc: you can upgrade to an LTS release from the previous LTS or regular release. [23:35] but I might be wrong. [23:35] That's right. [23:35] (so for lucid that'll be karmic and hardy) [23:35] Ok, the upgrade wiki is horribly out-of-date... [23:36] I thought that was the case, but unsure. === skydrome is now known as TeLe === TeLe is now known as skydrome