=== ogra changed the topic of #ubuntu-arm to: Ubuntu ARM Discussion & Development | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM | Want to Submit a Bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | Debian ARMel TODO: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiTodo | <suihkulokki> is there gym excersizes to make ARMs faster? | Build a rootfs from scratch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch | build probs with your packages in lucid ? see https://wiki.ub
=== ogra changed the topic of #ubuntu-arm to: Ubuntu ARM Discussion & Development | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM | Want to Submit a Bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | Debian ARMel TODO: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiTodo | Build a rootfs from scratch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch | build probs with your packages in lucid ? see https://wiki.ub
=== ogra changed the topic of #ubuntu-arm to: Ubuntu ARM Discussion & Development | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM | Want to Submit a Bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | Debian ARMel TODO: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiTodo | Build a rootfs from scratch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch | build probs with your packages in lucid ? see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2
[00:16] <ogra> sorry for the noise
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[01:43] <asac> armin76: there?
[01:43] <NCommander> armin76, ping?
[01:43] <asac> ok ;)
[01:43] <NCommander> armin76, mind if I PM you?
[01:46] <asac> dyfet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PackageReviewList#High/Medium Prority Packages
[01:49] <asac> dyfet: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36400628/glib2.0_2.23.0-1ubuntu1_2.23.0-1ubuntu2.diff.gz
[01:49] <NCommander> ugh
[01:49]  * NCommander grumbles
[01:49] <NCommander> xchat ates its configuration :-/
[01:49] <NCommander> *ate
[01:49] <asac> dyfet: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gcc/Atomic-Builtins.html
[01:50] <asac> dyfet: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38628422/mono_2.4.3%2Bdfsg-1_2.4.3%2Bdfsg-1ubuntu1.diff.gz
[02:08] <Donno> Is it possible to mount the 9.10 image for dove board? If so how, i tried loop but requires a file system
[02:08] <eggonlea> hi, NCommander. Karmic seems costs more memory than Jaunty because of larger library dependencies and more daemons. Do you have any analysis on the memory footprint, especially for the coming Lucid?
[02:09] <NCommander> eggonlea, no, sorry :-/
[02:09] <eggonlea> Donno, I don't know how to deal with livecd, but you could do that with alternative image absolutely.
[02:09] <Donno> ah, thought it was a hdd image or something
[02:10] <eggonlea> NCommander, thanks! do you have any suggestion on that if we have to start optimizing the memory footprint?
[02:11] <eggonlea> Donno, it's just a image which could be written to USB disk, SD card or HDD.
[02:11] <Donno> ah
[02:12] <eggonlea> "dd if=the.image of=/dev/sdx" should work fine
[02:12] <Donno> ah thanks
[06:16] <armin76> asac: pong, but i'm leaving soon for work
[13:05] <armin76> asac: i'm here
[13:24] <persia> I've not seen traffic from asac for nearly 12 hours, and have a suspicion it may be 4-5 more before he's responding.  I suspect he'll get the pings in backscroll :)
[14:39] <armin76> persia: he hides from me :P
[14:55] <persia> armin76: Quite possibly :)
[16:54] <ogra> davidm, http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=profile&u=robertcnelson-6877-27588-28309
[16:58] <ogra> dmart, ^^^ seen that ?
[16:58] <asac> armin76: hi ... did ncommander get in touch with you?=
[16:59] <asac> persia: ffox 36 for jaunty/karmic here: https://launchpad.net/~asac/+archive/armel1/
[17:00] <dmart> ogra, looks interesting
[17:01] <dmart> lucid performance looks very similar to Karmic (the differences are small enough that they may not be statistically significant, but it depends on the workings of the benchmark)
[17:02] <dmart> The sheevaplug comparison looks interesting... maybe differences in cache configuration and memory system are causing some of the performance differences.
[17:04] <dmart> These benchmarks don't look like they necessarily tell us much about how the system performs when thrashing (which dominates boot and app launch times)
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[17:45] <ogra> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/367714/
[17:58] <armin76> asac: nope, he didn't
[17:59] <armin76> NCommander: pong, no need to ask for pm :)
[18:37] <ogra> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/367714/
[19:07] <armin76> asac: fyi -fno-tree-sink fixed my failures on gcc-4.3 as well
[19:07] <armin76> on armv7a, that is, haven't tried armv5te but i guess it still fails
[19:08] <asac_> armin76: nice
[19:11] <armin76> btw, not sure if you guys know, but qualcomm snapdragon(the one in the nexus one) has vfp
[20:32] <ogra> lool, did you find a solution to the versatile vs qemu probs in lucid ?
[20:33] <ogra> i just noticed i see the same issue you mentioned, no output at all
[20:47] <ogra> lool, [    1.773302] CLCD: unknown LCD panel ID 0x00001000, using VGA
[20:47] <ogra> [    1.778543] CLCD: Versatile hardware, VGA display
[20:47] <ogra> here it hangs for me
[21:14] <lool> ogra: I didn't look further
[21:41] <ogra> lool, well, i just gave apw my config i used for the rotstock image, that should at least boot but might miss stuff
[21:41] <ogra> so we should have a starting point
[21:44] <lool> ogra: But it's another version, right?
[21:44] <ogra> its .31, yes
[21:44] <ogra> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/arm/qemu/vmlinuz-2.6.31-rc3versatile1-cortex-a8.config
[21:45] <lool> Mine is 2.6.31 too and works, but lucid versatile is .32
[21:45] <lool> I intended to rebase it, but didn't have the time
[21:45] <ogra> yes, but has a ton of options enabled
[21:45] <ogra> options the .31 versions didnt have
[21:45] <ogra> specificaly framebuffer stuff and the like
[21:46] <ogra> i suspect the issue lies there somewhere
[21:46] <ogra> since it at least starts for me if i use -nographic ...
[21:46] <ogra> but then hangs at the CLCD step
[21:47] <ogra> without -nographic there is no output at all
[21:47] <ogra> its a bit sad since i just wrote a function for rootstock to make use of the deb from ports.u.c
[21:47] <ogra> just to find it hangs :P