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LimCorehi \o/10:13
LimCoremy laptop is bricked.10:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 515950 in grub "ubuntu 9.10 with encrypted LVM does not boot after upgrade: svgalib: cannot open /dev/mem" [Undecided,New]10:14
LimCoreanyon want to debug it with me?10:14
LimCoreanother fail, and I just promised someone to simply install a clean 9.10 ubuntu on a laptop where it worked before... meh10:14
LimCoreplease assign priority medium or high, as normal upgrade of system can make system not-bootable for number of users (~5 reported in the question on which bugreport was made)10:16
LimCorefor 51595010:16
ali1234why are bug watch updates for gnome disabled?11:04
ali1234well, my gnome bug was fixed upstream... do i need to do anything? LP bug has a (disabled) watch...11:05
nigel_nbbug number?11:07
ali1234bug 48592311:07
ubot4Launchpad bug 485923 in gnome-media "Probable memory leak in gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-volume-control-applet" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48592311:07
ali1234well i found half my answer: bug 50615811:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 506158 in malone "checkwatches hammers the remote server when asking for changed bugs" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50615811:13
LimCorenigel_nb: could youset a bug priority for me?  bug#51595011:14
LimCorebug #51595011:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 515950 in grub "ubuntu 9.10 with encrypted LVM does not boot after upgrade: svgalib: cannot open /dev/mem" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51595011:14
nigel_nbsorry LimCore , I'm not bug control11:14
nigel_nbali1234, well,  gnome-volume-control-applet is in main and devs need to get to it11:15
* LimCore pokes Hobbsee with a unbootable-system-allert poker11:15
nigel_nbali1234, I'm not sure if I can submit and patch and get MOTU to fix it for me11:15
HobbseeLimCore: did you defenestrate it?11:15
Hobbseenigel_nb: ubuntu-main-sponsors exists for that reason, if you have a patch11:16
LimCorehuh?  "Defenestration is the act of throwing someone or something out of a window"11:16
Hobbseeyes :)11:17
LimCoredont know what you mean11:17
LimCorethe laptop? not yet11:17
* Hobbsee pulls out her netbook to try11:17
LimCorecan you set priority of this bug, it seems to affect number of poeple11:17
nigel_nbHobbsee, I can try then :)11:17
nigel_nbHobbsee, I'm not an expert though, will you be around in case I have doubts? :)11:18
LimCoreand it bricks the damn computers, seems a rather serious bug11:18
Hobbseenigel_nb: #ubuntu-devel tends to have people around in it, who woudl be more helpful than myself, but sure11:18
LimCoreHobbsee: in last month there where few days where I did NOT found a serious bug in anything I attempted to use in ubuntu. I really hoped that today simple "install the ubuntu on this (compatible) laptop" would go well.11:19
Hobbseesurprises me you're still here then11:20
Hobbseebut you do manage to find the oddest bugs.11:20
LimCoreyes I have unique tallent to debug well11:20
LimCoreor rather, Im one of few few peole that care enought to report and to come here11:20
LimCorefor 1 bug report I bet there is 100-10000 affected people that do not report11:20
LimCorewhat better place to get the bug fixed then here Hobbsee? Thanks to me a lot of serious bug got fixed faster11:21
Hobbseedownloading, downloading...11:22
LimCorebtw even one of my ssh (tiny) patches got included to upstream :)11:22
LimCoreso... can you set prio of this bug?11:22
LimCorebtw, would it be ok if I paste a 3 line ascii art riddle11:22
LimCoreperhaps not super family friendly, but fun I guess. It summs up my last days of trying new stuff in ubuntu11:23
Hobbseepreferably not, and i figured i'd test it out before putting a prio on it11:23
LimCoreOpenPGP in kmail not working, multiply reporters. Please set prio low or medium - security bug (can't use OpenPGP), but easy workaround exists - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/29797611:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 297976 in kdepim "kmail: cannot sign emails after upgradind to intrepid ibex" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:38
LimCoreHobbsee: while waiting for download, please set prio low (I guess) to above if you can11:39
LimCorehmm or medium... because probably fixing it is easy so why use workaround11:39
milanbvbdmurray: could you prevent my membership to Bug Control from expiring? my lp account is nalimilan11:42
LimCoreyes I was very entertained by this bugs too (untill I realize they hold back my work ;)11:52
balchdHi, is possible to remove a nomination I made on a big (#200070)?12:05
nigel_nbbug 2007012:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 20070 in workrave "workrave hangs after unlocking with input blocked" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2007012:06
nigel_nbbug 20007012:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 200070 in cheese "cheese crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20007012:06
balchdI realised that it's an old bug, and probably not as good a match to my problem as I thought.12:06
nigel_nbWell, I think only few people have rights to do that.  Don't worry, someone will get around to rejecting it12:07
balchdok, thanks.12:07
nigel_nbah well, Hobbsee was one of the "few people" ;)12:20
Hobbseei'm not sure if i should still have those rights, but there you go12:20
Hobbseeit's probably part of -quality12:20
nigel_nbHobbsee, you're core-dev?12:20
nigel_nbwow! never knew12:20
LimCoreHobbsee: can I help you to mark this bugs importance somehow?13:06
LimCorebtw, does anyone know workaround to this bug of ubuntu not booting bug #51595013:08
ubot4Launchpad bug 515950 in grub "ubuntu 9.10 with encrypted LVM does not boot after upgrade: svgalib: cannot open /dev/mem" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51595013:08
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LimCoreso can I do something to have bug #515950 fixed faster?13:58
ubot4Launchpad bug 515950 in grub "ubuntu 9.10 with encrypted LVM does not boot after upgrade: svgalib: cannot open /dev/mem" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51595013:58
LimCoreso... my ubuntu fails to boot entire day. Same happens for many users16:02
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LimCoreanyone wants to take a look?  bug #51595016:02
ubot4Launchpad bug 515950 in grub "ubuntu 9.10 with encrypted LVM does not boot after upgrade: svgalib: cannot open /dev/mem" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51595016:02
charlie-tcaLimCore: Please don't mark your own bugs confirmed16:22
charlie-tcaWhen they are marked already, many of us don't look at them again for a long time.16:23
LimCorecharlie-tca: 5 other people on LP confirmed them!16:24
LimCorein the question to which I linked, all is written there16:24
charlie-tcaThen put that in the report, but you still should not mark it confirmed in status16:24
LimCorewhy not?16:24
LimCoreother people confirmed them16:24
charlie-tcabug-squad policy is to never confirm your own bugs16:25
LimCoreits not my bug16:25
micahgcharlie-tca: first line under confirmed in the status wiki page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/28690616:25
ubot4Launchpad bug 286906 in xulrunner "provide and support a top-level library package for libmozjs (Was: Unable to use libmozjs.so in an application, because of library path problem.)" [Unknown,Confirmed]16:25
micahgAnother reporter has experienced the same bug, this can come in the form  of a duplicate bug or a bug comment16:25
micahgcharlie-tca: as i understood it, confirmed ones own bugs was on a second system16:26
micahgnot changing status based on another duplicate bug or comment16:26
LimCoreAsked by Zaki Akhmad  on on 2009-11-1016:26
LimCorehe reported that,  I just confirmed it16:26
LimCoreand converted to bug16:26
charlie-tcamicahg: did you look at the bug in question? LimCore filed it, LimCore commented on it, LimCore changed status to confirmed16:27
micahgLimCore: that does look bad...16:27
LimCoreZaki Akhmad asked it16:27
charlie-tcaI see nothing that says anyone else touched the bug16:27
micahgLimCore: I didn't say wrong...I said looks bad16:27
LimCoreLimCore converted question to bug16:27
LimCore3 other bug commented it16:28
LimCore3 other people commented it16:28
LimCorecharlie-tca: how about reading my bug report fully, and noticing a link to the question with comments from multiply reporters?16:28
charlie-tcaIf it is from a question, why wasn't the question converted back to a bug?16:29
LimCoreit was! I did it16:29
LimCoreas I written there...16:29
LimCoreLimCore  wrote 6 hours ago: Confirmed in the original question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+question/8946116:29
micahgcharlie-tca: maybe Q's converted to bugs should import comments?16:29
micahglike going the other way16:30
charlie-tcaI don't know, but reading the report, I see "The original reporter had the problem after upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic." But the original reporter that I can see is the person that filed the bug, LimCore16:30
thekornnot a good idea, IMHO, because comments on Questions might contain some chatter which is not relevant to an bugreport16:31
micahgLimCore: you should have put in the description about converting from a question16:31
micahgcharlie-tca: I think it was an honest mistake16:32
charlie-tcathat may be, but it still looks like the same person reported it, commented, and confirmed it. That was my original point.16:32
LimCoremicahg: .......16:33
LimCoremicahg: I DID EXACTLY THAT16:33
LimCoreare people blind today or what ;) LimCore  wrote 6 hours ago: Confirmed in the original question: [url]16:33
* charlie-tca is half-blind everyday16:34
micahgLimCore: no, that was a comment16:34
LimCoresome other dude reported it (as a Q)16:34
LimCorethen peoople reported it too16:34
micahgit should have been in the original bug description...16:34
LimCorealso after upgrades of kernel16:34
thekorn"This bug was originally described in qustion blabla, following the discussion on this question I decided to convert it to a bugreport. Original description by boobar. <here comes the description>"16:34
thekornsomething like this would make things more readable16:35
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LimCoreif we are done with the beurocracy, how about setting importance (medium?) and figuring out how to fix that :)16:37
micahgLimCore: great, thanks16:37
thekornLimCore, why medium? just because there a four people having this issue?16:40
thekornLimCore, also: have you checked if this bug has already been reported before you created this new one?16:42
thekornLimCore, maybe bug 500884 ?16:44
ubot4Launchpad bug 500884 in grub2 "Kernel 2.6.31-16 failed to install correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50088416:44
vishanyone know where is upstream for > Bug #38681917:04
ubot4Launchpad bug 386819 in system-config-printer "cups can not delete all waiting jobs at once?" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38681917:04
vish"There is no bug supervisor for System Config Printer. This means that there is nobody upstream we can notify about this issue. " hmm??17:22
charlie-tcaBut all my xfce upstream bugs have that message, too. It isn't always true.17:38
charlie-tcaWonder if you could ping Till about it? He seems to be the one with the most knowledge about printers/etc17:39
om26erif a bug is to add an application to universe. what should be done for it?18:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 516161 in software-center "miksoft mobile media converter + easymp3gain into software center" [Undecided,New]18:13
jpdsom26er: Change to a [needs-packaging] bug.18:14
om26erjpds, and make it ubuntu task?18:15
bcurtiswx_seb128: i think Bug #516168 should be assigned to Ubuntu Desktop team since it's Ubuntu specific.. would you take care of that?18:45
ubot4Launchpad bug 516168 in empathy ""Use message indicators" is not understandable" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51616818:45
seb128bcurtiswx_, no18:45
bcurtiswx_seb128:  its not upstream..  where should it go then?18:47
seb128bcurtiswx_, where it is now seems fine18:48
bcurtiswx_seb128: alrightie, thx18:49
strycoreThis default response https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Freeze%20during%20boot%20or%20shutdown%20screen needs to be updated for Lucid users19:18
strycoreI'm going to do it, I just wanted to make sure the modifications are ok19:18
strycoreThis is the modified message I posted in a bug report : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/51602419:19
ubot4Launchpad bug 516024 in ubuntu "system does not shut down" [Undecided,New]19:19
yofelstrycore: indeed, the old response is still for grub-legacy, thanks :)19:26
yofelstrycore: bug didn't you have to hold 'Shift' pressed to get to the grub menu? (I always have the menu enabled so I'm not sure)19:27
strycoreI'll have to check that19:30
hggdhpedro_: please count me in in helping on the bugsquad revamp19:55
bcurtiswx_pedro_: same here19:56
qensepedro_: in case the mail wasn't enough: same here19:56
pedro_hggdh, bcurtiswx awesome folks! thank you19:56
pedro_qense, yeah we got it, thanks ;-)19:56
pedro_the more hands we have the better19:56
pedro_we're supposed to set the expiration date to ~half of the team19:57
hggdhI agree, this is going to be, er, exciting19:57
pedro_so if only 30% of those re apply , it's going to be well... like hell19:57
qenseexciting indeed19:57
bcurtiswx_it will be the "most fun we can have with our pants on" :P19:58
qenseI already get way too much e-mail everyday19:58
micahgpedro_: you can add me too, but I can't promise how much I can help19:58
pedro_there's not too much to check though so shouldn't be hard19:58
Picier, thats not the command I wanted.19:58
qenseyeah, fortunately the requirements are small and easy to check19:58
pedro_micahg, awesome ! thanks19:58
pedro_I was really surprised to see that ~half of the team didn't even signed the CoC19:59
* hggdh was not *that* surprised. But a bit disapointed, though.19:59
yofelI was more surprised on how many joined the team and never did anything...19:59
pedro_would be nice to do the same exercise with teams like ubuntu-testing20:00
qenseit's disappointing to see how few people actually read and follow the documentation.20:00
pedro_yeah like ~48 % with 0 karma is pretty disappointing20:00
micahgpedro_: if you could also prepare a stock reply for people that apply but shouldn't be accepted, that would be great20:00
yofelpedro_: a question: *how exactly* can we help here?20:01
pedro_micahg, i'll do that and put it on the wiki page20:01
micahgpedro_: thanks20:01
pedro_yofel, it's basically: check if the members who apply for renewal fit all the new requirements , if they do approve the membership and if they don't well don't do it20:02
pedro_yofel, nothing more complex than that20:02
yofelok, easy enough :)20:02
pedro_indeed ;-)20:03
qense:P Since I joined the papercutters and subscribed to the Nautilus package I'm flooded with bug mail.20:03
bcurtiswx_we can reject them if they don't meet requirements.. but we'd try to inform them of what needs to be met..20:03
qenseStock reply, anyone?20:03
bcurtiswx_how are we proving they've read How To Triage?20:04
yofelqense: didn't micahg propose that just now?20:04
pedro_bcurtiswx, that's tricky to check, but if they say so that's enough20:04
micahgyofel: yep :)20:04
yofelgood :)20:04
bcurtiswx_pedro_: if only the world worked on word of mouth alone :P will do :D20:04
micahgpedro_: is there a way to comment when petitioning?20:04
qenseI'd say: karma > 0 and if so, reasonable triaging results20:05
pedro_remember that we have the ubuntu bugcontrol team for asking complex questions regarding triague ;-)20:05
hggdhyes. The idea is *not* to replace bug-control20:05
pedro_oops i was missing the "all new members/renewals need to send an email to the bugsquad list"20:06
bcurtiswx_qense: can we search through bug comments easily for the specific launchpad members requesting membership?20:06
micahgdoes this help with the mentorship as well, or are these people unmentored?20:06
qensebcurtiswx_: bugs.launchpad.net/~username ?20:06
bcurtiswx_qense: yes DUH20:06
* bcurtiswx_ walks in shame20:06
BlackZhi pedro_ ;)20:06
bcurtiswx_aww i made him shame quit20:07
hggdhmicahg: the bugsquad is not required to be mentored20:07
pedro_micahg, well if they plan to join the bugcontrol team, for sure ;-)20:07
pedro_hola BlackZ!20:08
hggdhqense: it is time, is it not?20:08
micahgk, so the new bugsquad is supposed to be a more qualified version of bugsquad, but still at your own pace, unmentored20:08
qensehggdh: yes, the time has come20:08
hggdhqense: I am there20:09
micahgpedro_: are we setting expiring membership as well for the new bugsquad after reapplying or is it forever?20:09
bcurtiswx_ok, going home.. see me on bcurtiswx when i get there20:09
hggdhfolks -- whoever would like to cheer for qense, he is applying for membership now on -meetings20:09
bcurtiswx_hggdh: aww, is he early on?20:09
qensenah, probably not20:10
hggdhbcurtiswx_: difficult to say, depends on who else is there. He may jump20:10
bcurtiswx_maybe i'll make it home b4.. and i'll give ya a cheer20:10
bcurtiswx_gonna drive like a maniac.. ok j/k.. bbs20:10
qensethat would be great, but please drive careful! :D20:10
qenseI'm not worth it!20:11
pedro_micahg, the subscription period is set to 1 year on the team, but we can change it to be something like 3 months and after that 1 year20:11
pedro_what do you guys think about that?20:11
pedro_we have a similar setup for the bugcontrol team20:11
qenseI agree with a short first period. A lot of people leave the first month and this makes sure we don't keep too many of those ghosts in the team.20:12
pedro_ok cool ;-)20:13
qensedarn! unstable themes are dangerous!20:15
vishqense: nice karma you got goin ;)  "9999" next up 10000 :)20:16
qenseyes, maybe I should take a screenshot of that20:16
qenseAppropriate for a Membership request, don't you think?20:17
* micahg doesn't remember anyone else's karma being mentioned in applications, but mine...20:18
micahgit was a little joke in my approval blurb20:18
qenseThey just check if your karma isn't very low.20:19
bcurtiswxqense: went yet?20:31
qenseno, I think I'm up next20:31
hggdhyes. the EMEA is always fast20:33
qenseAre other boards slower?20:34
hggdhyes, some are. Quite more so.20:35
* bcurtiswx ROFL @ -meeting20:36
* bcurtiswx congrats qense20:38
qensethank you guys20:38
hggdhyou see. *Very* fast...20:38
micahgcongrata qense20:38
hggdhwelcome in20:38
qenseI'm happy20:38
bcurtiswxwelcome in20:38
bcurtiswxwe all were when we wer ein your shoes20:39
bcurtiswxwere in*20:39
qenseyou were there to support me, but it wasn't needed20:39
cjohnstoncongrats qense20:39
qensethank you all20:39
pedro_congrats qense!!20:39
hggdhmy pleasure, qense20:39
pedro_just saw the email ;-)20:39
bcurtiswxwe need an initiation.....20:39
bcurtiswxok maybe not20:39
qensethat was a lot quicker than I expected20:40
bcurtiswxyou slid through there faster than the bobsledders will in a week or two :P20:40
hggdhand now, a question for all: anyone used weechat *and* Lucid? I am packaging weechat GIT on my PPA20:40
bcurtiswxwhat is weechat?20:41
hggdh(and coreutils GIT, also)20:41
hggdha command-line IRC client/server20:41
qenseI have not20:41
qenseIsn't IRSSI the hardcore IRC client?20:42
hggdhyes irssi is considered the hardcore IRC client. But I (personally) do not like it, and found weechat to be easier20:43
bcurtiswxi never used it.. thats why im using xchat-gnome20:43
qenseso am I20:44
qenseI also use gedit, no vim or emacs20:44
hggdhoooohhhh, no vi or emacs, ooooohhhh20:44
hggdheverytime I try gedit, I end up CTRL/something, and messing the text20:44
qenseI know, I'm one of those bad youngsters. The new generation doesn  use CLI!20:44
* hggdh has just been reminded of age ...20:45
* hggdh spits the denture while ROFL, and has to get it cleaned before reuse20:45
qenseI hope I didn't hurt your feelings too much!20:46
* micahg feels old after looking at qense's age on the wiki20:46
qenseI got sent the job description for the GNOME contractor Canonical was looking for. That was funny.20:47
hggdhmy sons are older...20:47
qenseI don't have the time20:48
charlie-tcahggdh: you do know weechat in lucid is up to date?20:50
charlie-tcaI have used it with no issues yet20:51
charlie-tcaIs that going to be a newer version?20:51
charlie-tcaCongrats, qense20:52
hggdhcharlie-tca: yes, this is the next version. Lucid has 0.3.0, and the GIT is at 0.3.220:52
qensecharlie-tca: thanks20:53
charlie-tcahggdh: Great! Let me know when it is ready, okay?20:53
hggdhcharlie-tca: will do. I have been using it with no issues so far, but it is still under development20:54
charlie-tcaI been bouncing back and forth between weechat and xchat. Xchat don't work right in lucid, though20:54
hggdhI tried xchat for quite some time, but it was breaking on encrypted conversations20:54
charlie-tcaI can use it with ssl, at least20:56
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qenseI'm off, bye guys!21:10
LimCore_some meeting today?21:38
LimCore_about people leaving21:39
LimCore_Im reporting serious bugs for like 2 years now (3+ outside ubuntu) how can I be on bug controll to faster process some reports21:39
hggdhLimCore_: see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/21:40
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vishhggdh: which ML has this discussion been going on?21:51
vishregarding bug squad21:52
thekornvish, ubuntu-bugsquad21:52
* vish scratches head... searches lp for bug squad ml21:53
hggdhbrbb, reboot21:53
thekornvish, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2010-February/thread.html21:53
vishthekorn: thanks :)  i was looking for it here > https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad21:54
thekornright, the team is still using the old(ish) list.ubuntu.com ML, maybe we should consider moving the ML to launchpad as part of this reorganisation process21:56
vishyeah , mailing kinda eats/delays mails sometimes21:57
yofelthekorn: indeed, wasn't there some discussion about this on UDS too? (Or maybe I'm mixing something up...)22:00
yofelit would make it easier to check if someone is subscribed to the ML too...22:00
yofelhm, pedro isn't here :/22:02
charlie-tcayofel: this gives the details - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Specs/SpecialisationWithinBugcontrol22:04
vishhmm , I'd be glad to help too ,22:05
* vish doesnt see pedro around :(22:05
vishah , he's back22:05
yofelyep, at the bottom22:06
vishpedro_: i can help with the renewals too :)22:06
yofelpedro_: do you know if someone has thought some more about moving the bugsquad ML to launchpad?22:06
pedro_hello vish!, cool thanks22:06
pedro_yofel, we did thought about that during UDS, i'm waiting for the response of some launchpad folks so the movement can be smoothly22:07
pedro_but yes, that'd be nice22:08
yofelit would make checking if someone is subscribed to it much easier...22:08
vishDan_E: hi.. need help filing bugs ? or want to triage bugs22:11
pedro_where where? :-)22:11
Dan_Ejust seeing if i could send to the channel. some are having trouble22:12
vishDan_E: you can use !test factoid22:13
charlie-tcaMight need to have a registered nick now?22:13
hggdhare we +r?22:13
charlie-tcaI don't know22:14
yofelhm, we're +Ccntz22:14
charlie-tcanot it then22:14
* yofel goes checking what that means for ircd-seven22:14
hggdhwell, there is that, also, we are now -seven22:14
yofelhm, you can't send messages to the channel from the outside, but should be fine otherwise. If ircd-seven isn't acting up22:17
chrisccoulsoncharlie-tca - generally, we don't set desktop bugs (ie, those in https://edge.launchpad.net/~desktop-bugs/+packagebugs) to triaged until they've been forwarded upstream, if they're an upstream issue. otherwise, they will just sit around in launchpad for years until somebody looks at them again22:56
* charlie-tca slaps head; he knew that, but screwed up22:57
chrisccoulson(i just noticed you set bug 498366 to triaged)22:57
ubot4Launchpad bug 498366 in gnome-screensaver "built-in X.Org screensaver always activates in Xubuntu after 10 minutes" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49836622:57
chrisccoulsoncharlie-tca - no worries ;)22:57
charlie-tcaWhy is that a package bug?22:57
charlie-tcathat is an issue in xubuntu 9.10, what does packaging have to do with it?22:58
chrisccoulsoncharlie-tca - did i say anything about packaging? gnome-screensaver is one of the packages we look after on the desktop team. so, we wouldn't set it to triaged until it's been forwarded upstream22:59
chrisccoulsonalthough, in this case, it's not clear what the issue is yet (or if there is a bug at all)22:59
charlie-tcaIt hasn't worked in xubuntu since karmic 222:59
kklimondahmm, no idea where to ask so here it goes: I've created files !a !b !_j and j - then I've listed files sorted by name - why is !_j after j and not after !a and !b?23:01
bcurtiswxso how do I reply to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/462994 ??23:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 462994 in telepathy-mission-control-5 "Account details unremovable." [Low,Invalid]23:29
kklimondaI don't understand how would someone expect removing package to remove his own configuration but I guess I'm just too used to Linux and not used to Windows..23:34
kklimondabcurtiswx: is the bug that if mission control is running when files in home directory are deleted it recreates them at shutdown?23:35
kklimondabcurtiswx: or that --purge doesn't remove files from home directory?23:35
bcurtiswxi am not 100% sure, but it appears that way... actually both may happen and i think were commented on23:36
kklimondabcurtiswx: removing ~/.mission-control/ was enough for me to remove accounts - after I've logged out and logged in I had to create new account in empathy23:45
kklimondaoh well23:45

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