[10:08] <thorwil> vish: how do you feel about humphreybc's request for a alpha release title page?
[10:10]  * vish checks mail
[10:13] <vish> thorwil: hmm? so the name needs to be changed? in the existing title page?
[10:14] <thorwil> vish: that would be the quick solution. plus dropping the to right corner, as the version number is in the title now
[10:15] <vish> thorwil: we could just leave it as "Getting started with Ubuntu" ;)  if we drop the top corner , then the right side would be empty :(
[10:16] <thorwil> vish: aside of things already mentioned, another argument against the lynx is that we don't know what will come next. we can't rely on reasonable animals to create a series of covers instead of one-shots
[10:17] <vish> thorwil: IMO , the page would need to be redesigned to the new title , which we can take up for later.. for now we just shorten the name
[10:17] <thorwil> the jackalope would have been unacceptable given our desired tone and message
[10:18] <vish> thorwil: yes , i agree with you about the animal.. i have been saying this from day one , but _they_ insist on using the lynx , this time we have a good lynx , next time another animal are we sure we would be around for that? , then the whole page needs to be redone...  workaround can be using the COC if animal isnt ready ;p
[10:19] <thorwil> vish: having the lynx for the alpha version might make it harder to argue against keeping it later on
[10:20] <vish> i didnt understand ^ ?
[10:20] <vish> thorwil: you recommend , we dont use the lynx? , but we cant get away with that ;p
[10:21] <thorwil> vish: i'm not sure we can't. proposing something for alpha release without might help with getting people used to the idea
[10:22] <vish> thorwil: one thing we can say is we already used the lynx for alpha , we can use a better design for the final release ;)
[10:24] <thorwil> vish: ok then, so will you prepare a quick edit of your design with the new title? i will not care about any specifics there, unless you ask me
[10:25] <godbyk> Do you want to replace the existing svg or create a new one?
[10:25] <godbyk> If it's under a different file name, we can update the Makefile to generate the new cover page in the PDF.
[10:25] <vish> hmm , sure
[10:25] <vish> godbyk: I'd just , add a new file
[10:25] <godbyk> (otherwise, replacing the existing filename will cause the cover page to be automatically regenerated)
[10:25] <vish> godbyk: or , how do you prefer it?
[10:25] <godbyk> Makes no difference to me.
[10:26] <godbyk> It's an easy one-line fix in the Makefile if you want me to point at a new cover page file.
[10:26] <vish> godbyk: ok.. I'll rename the current one as -Old and update the new one
[10:26] <godbyk> k
[10:28] <vish> thorwil: so the first Line would be "Getting Started" and second line "With Ubuntu" ? and there is no need for subtitle , right?
[10:28] <godbyk> vish: That sounds right, yeah.
[10:28] <vish> k..
[10:28] <godbyk> I think the version number follows "Ubuntu", though.
[10:28] <thorwil> yes
[10:29] <vish> godbyk: if we do the version number there  , then the top corner is a problem... so for the alpha we leave the version number at the top , and for the final release we do it right
[10:29] <thorwil> later, for the real design, we should try to get it on one line
[10:29] <vish> agreed
[10:30] <godbyk> fair enough.
[10:30] <thorwil> vish: i really don't think your design needs the corner for balance, but it's your call
[10:30] <godbyk> if the corner stays in the final design, we may have to add some more padding around the words to make sure it stays within whatever the standard printer margins are.
[10:30] <vish> godbyk: corner will not stay for final :)
[10:30] <godbyk> gotcha
[10:33] <godbyk> at some point we'll have to figure out how to best handle translations for the cover page, too.
[10:33] <vish> thorwil: i'm more inclined to leave it there , since it pisses you off so much :p
[10:33] <godbyk> I s'pose that since we've select a title, the text on the cover will be pretty static, and we can manually adjust/create each language's cover page.
[10:35] <thorwil> vish: this can't touch me. it's a wart on your design, not mine ;)
[10:35] <vish> hehe ;
[10:36] <thorwil> godbyk: we will have to
[10:36] <thorwil> godbyk: but not for alpha, i hope
[10:37] <godbyk> thorwil: I wouldn't worry about it for alpha.
[10:37] <godbyk> I've still got some work to do with the translations.
[10:37] <godbyk> I'm trying to find good typefaces to cover all the scripts that all these languages use.
[10:38] <godbyk> (I'll be honest: I hadn't even heard of some of these languages before I started looking into this translation stuff!)