| Drakeson | Are many firefox 3.6 plugins (such as greasemonkey) broken in lucid 64bit? Firefox refuses to start when I install one of many such plugins. | 00:00 |
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| micahg | Drakeson: are you referring to the archive versions? | 00:01 |
| Drakeson | what do you mean by archive versions? | 00:01 |
| BUGabundo | Drakeson: WFM in 3.7 | 00:02 |
| micahg | Drakeson: versions you can apt-get vs from addons.mozilla.org? | 00:02 |
| Drakeson | no, the ones from addons.mozilla.org | 00:02 |
| micahg | Drakeson: well, does it say it's compatible with 3.6? | 00:02 |
| micahg | I think the stats were about 75% of addons were compatible with 3.6 at the time of release | 00:03 |
| micahg | asac: re the transition PPA, its name is ffox35, is that a problem, I can modify the text, but not the name | 00:04 |
| asac | micahg: i think its ok | 00:04 |
| asac | its just for us | 00:04 |
| micahg | asac: k, I was going to finish up xul192 tonight and upload a pre version to the PPA to start building against | 00:05 |
| Drakeson | micahg: an example is greasemonkey (a popular addon). it says it is compatible with firefox 3.6. | 00:06 |
| Drakeson | and after installation firefox fails to start | 00:06 |
| asac | micahg: right. | 00:06 |
| Drakeson | BUGabundo: is that a 64bit machine? | 00:06 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 00:06 |
| BUGabundo | ahhhh | 00:06 |
| BUGabundo | let me guess | 00:06 |
| micahg | asac: what suffix should I use with the ppa, I see a few in tehre | 00:06 |
| BUGabundo | process separation ? | 00:07 |
| Drakeson | BUGabundo: what is that? | 00:07 |
| Drakeson | does firefox have process separation? | 00:07 |
| asac | micahg: ~ffox36~lucid1 etc. | 00:07 |
| micahg | asac: k | 00:07 |
| asac | karmic intrepid etc. | 00:07 |
| BUGabundo | for a few days now, builds of Firefox have separate process for plugins and some addons | 00:07 |
| asac | well screw intrepid ;) | 00:07 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: only 3.7, not 3.6 | 00:07 |
| asac | jaunty hardy karmic etc. | 00:07 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: localy? cause upstream is doing 3.6 too | 00:08 |
| micahg | Drakeson: can you get a gdb backtrace? | 00:08 |
| BUGabundo | btw, since 3.6 is stable do you get 4.x branch now? | 00:08 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: only on a branch right now, not nightlies | 00:08 |
| BUGabundo | darn chromium 5-dev is soooo broken | 00:08 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: ping me once fta gets its daily up | 00:08 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: when mozilla-central branches, we'll put it up | 00:08 |
| Drakeson | micahg: only if I knew how. /usr/bin/firefox is a shell script and I don't know how to run it under gdb. | 00:09 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: chromium dailies are already at 5 | 00:09 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 00:09 |
| BUGabundo | I'm using it | 00:09 |
| micahg | Drakeson: firefox -g | 00:09 |
| BUGabundo | and filling bugs on it | 00:09 |
| fta | asac, hi | 00:09 |
| fta | asac, good to know | 00:09 |
| BUGabundo | fta: you got my bug report? | 00:10 |
| fta | BUGabundo, ch, 4am | 00:10 |
| BUGabundo | !? | 00:10 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: you asking about ff4? | 00:10 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: yes | 00:10 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: k | 00:10 |
| fta | BUGabundo, about themes? i can't reproduce | 00:11 |
| Drakeson | micahg: using firefox -g, I get this: | 00:11 |
| Drakeson | "/usr/lib/firefox-3.6/firefox": not in executable format: File format not recognized | 00:11 |
| BUGabundo | fta: :( | 00:11 |
| micahg | Drakeson: try gdb /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/firefox-bin | 00:12 |
| Drakeson | oh, it does not sigterm, it just exited with code 01 | 00:14 |
| * Drakeson looks further ... | 00:14 | |
| Drakeson | well, forgive my stupidity, is that exit code (code 01) from the shell wrapper or from the actual binary? I did "firefox -g" and then "file /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/firefox-bin" in gdb, and then "r". | 00:17 |
| * micahg isn't sure | 00:21 | |
| micahg | Drakeson: why not just try starting from gdb | 00:34 |
| ccheney | how do you search in chrome? | 01:06 |
| ccheney | oh duh ctrl+f | 01:07 |
| * ccheney is too used to firefox :) | 01:07 | |
| asac | ctrl+f also works in ffox fwiw ;) | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 01:13 |
| BUGabundo | that's how I do it in all browsers | 01:14 |
| * ccheney has used / forever :) | 01:39 | |
| ccheney | like vi :) | 01:39 |
| asac | ok out for today ... cu tomorrow | 03:02 |
| asac | micahg: hey .... so on tbird locales ... did you test them? | 03:59 |
| micahg | well, I don't have a version I can actually test on | 03:59 |
| asac | e.g. checking whether you get a translated UI if you use some? | 03:59 |
| asac | huh? | 04:00 |
| micahg | but the extension registered as not compatible in tb3.0.1pre | 04:00 |
| micahg | maxversion is 3.0 | 04:00 |
| asac | micahg: you dont have a 3.0 tbird? | 04:00 |
| micahg | asac: maxversion on the .xpis upstream is 1 version | 04:00 |
| micahg | I have 3.0.1pre | 04:00 |
| micahg | and the locales are 3.0 | 04:00 |
| micahg | do we need to hack that up? | 04:01 |
| asac | well ... so we definitly ned to open maxVersion up | 04:01 |
| * micahg can override to test actualy | 04:01 | |
| asac | to be 3.0.* | 04:01 |
| asac | in the packages | 04:01 |
| micahg | ok, so that means repacking the xpis... | 04:01 |
| asac | not sure that means it | 04:01 |
| * micahg can add the code back to do taht | 04:01 | |
| asac | you can sed them | 04:01 |
| asac | after dh_install | 04:01 |
| micahg | oh... | 04:01 |
| micahg | cool | 04:01 |
| * micahg never tried that | 04:01 | |
| asac | after or before the xpi-install | 04:02 |
| * micahg gets to practice :) | 04:02 | |
| asac | i think after is the right time to do that | 04:02 |
| micahg | let me override the one I have installed first to make sure it works | 04:02 |
| asac | yheah | 04:02 |
| micahg | yeah | 04:02 |
| asac | thats a good first step | 04:02 |
| asac | i am not sure if the maxVersion 3.0 furing xpi-install messes the generated xpi:recommends up | 04:03 |
| asac | but i wouldnt think it does | 04:03 |
| micahg | do I need to bump the moz-devscripts requirement to 0.20~? | 04:03 |
| asac | not sure.... depends on whether we rely on something that is only available in 0.20 | 04:04 |
| asac | do we? | 04:04 |
| micahg | asac: recommends: TB vs TB-3.0 | 04:04 |
| asac | ah ... so then yes. | 04:04 |
| micahg | still needs to be released to debian if we're going to do it | 04:04 |
| asac | not sure why ... but yes. bdrung should get that released imo | 04:05 |
| asac | then we can synch before uploading | 04:05 |
| asac | micahg: so plesae try if it works ... then sed the maxVersion after the xpi-install for each language | 04:05 |
| asac | and then we should be fine | 04:05 |
| micahg | asac: k, do we intend to update them though? | 04:06 |
| asac | unless xpi-install creates tight versioned depends/recommends (e.g. not just 'thnunderbird') | 04:06 |
| micahg | 3.0.2 is adding an old locale back | 04:06 |
| micahg | asac: no, just generic | 04:06 |
| asac | we intend to update them regularly.... but we dont want to update them for each tbird release | 04:06 |
| asac | ok if itsjust generic it sounds good ... open maxVersion up after xpi-install and all should be fine | 04:06 |
| asac | then we should be fie | 04:07 |
| asac | fine | 04:07 |
| asac | would be great to the get sedding today... then we are done and i can upload it tomorrow after poking bdrung to get the latest md up | 04:07 |
| micahg | asac: ok | 04:08 |
| asac | thx very much | 04:08 |
| asac | lets see tomorrow. .... anything else you need? | 04:08 |
| micahg | np, no, I'll try to get xul192 up if I don't collapse first | 04:09 |
| micahg | otherwise in the morning | 04:09 |
| asac | hehe | 04:09 |
| asac | tb has definitly priority ... so we get that off the list :) | 04:09 |
| asac | :) | 04:09 |
| asac | xul192 getting up soudns not that hard ... get it in your private ppa first | 04:10 |
| asac | and if its fine we can copz the packages over | 04:10 |
| micahg | k | 04:10 |
| asac | ok cool.... have to run out now ... dinner and stuff and the internet sucks here in the hotel :) | 04:10 |
| micahg | yeah, I just have to diff xul191 and xul192 to make sure we're not missing anything | 04:10 |
| asac | right | 04:10 |
| asac | reviewing that would be great | 04:11 |
| asac | enjoy aznd talk to you tomorrow! | 04:11 |
| micahg | asac: k, enjoy | 04:11 |
| micahg | asac: locale worked with override :) on to sed :) | 04:16 |
| [reed] | hey guys | 04:27 |
| micahg | hi [reed] | 04:27 |
| [reed] | didn't you all run into "configure: error: System Sqlite library is not compiled with SQLITE_SECURE_DELETE." sometime | 04:27 |
| [reed] | ? | 04:27 |
| micahg | yes | 04:28 |
| micahg | when trying to use system 3.20 | 04:28 |
| micahg | when the new test failed | 04:28 |
| micahg | but I thought that was fixed when sqlite was bumped to 3.22 | 04:28 |
| [reed] | thought so, too | 04:28 |
| [reed] | but Gentoo is having issues with 3.22 | 04:28 |
| micahg | hmmm | 04:29 |
| micahg | let me check a recent build log | 04:29 |
| [reed] | k | 04:29 |
| [reed] | 3.6.22* | 04:29 |
| micahg | nm, we still have 3.6.21 in Lucid | 04:29 |
| [reed] | can you try to get .22 on lucid? | 04:29 |
| micahg | not in debian yet | 04:29 |
| micahg | let me see if there's anopen bug in BTS | 04:29 |
| [reed] | k | 04:30 |
| micahg | no open bug, but maybe I can poke | 04:31 |
| [reed] | micahg: ok, thanks | 04:31 |
| micahg | [reed]: debian 568061 | 04:52 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 568061 in sqlite3 "sqlite3: New Upstream Release 3.6.22" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/568061 | 04:52 |
| [reed] | thanks | 04:52 |
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| mahfouz | hi micahg: sorry to "bug" you, but any news on the non-existing default theme? | 05:57 |
| micahg | mahfouz: sorry, not yet, I don't see it in the final version, you see it in upstream builds? | 05:58 |
| mahfouz | I think I never had an upstream build, you want me to try? | 05:59 |
| mahfouz | I only have ppa daily build | 05:59 |
| micahg | mahfouz: well, could you check an upstream build? | 05:59 |
| mahfouz | but you don't have default theme either, do you? | 06:00 |
| mahfouz | https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Download_Mozilla_Source_Code | 06:00 |
| mahfouz | you mean this link? | 06:01 |
| micahg | mahfouz: | 06:02 |
| micahg | no, just download from firefox.com | 06:02 |
| mahfouz | I remember last time you said it's probly not compiling the default theme in the ppa | 06:02 |
| micahg | ok | 06:02 |
| micahg | let me check something | 06:02 |
| mahfouz | I'm dling firefox-3.6.tar.bz2 | 06:02 |
| mahfouz | I'll try compiling that one | 06:03 |
| micahg | mahfouz: nah, they have ones you can just unzip and run | 06:03 |
| micahg | I just need to know if it shows up in there | 06:03 |
| mahfouz | unzip and run? you mean a deb? where? | 06:04 |
| micahg | mahfouz: no, the download from firefox.com | 06:04 |
| micahg | tar -jxvf into a dir | 06:04 |
| mahfouz | yes, did that | 06:04 |
| micahg | and then ./firefox/firefox to run | 06:04 |
| mahfouz | ah right | 06:05 |
| bdrung | asac: should i release m-d 0.20? | 06:05 |
| micahg | probably better to start with -ProfileManager | 06:05 |
| micahg | mahfouz: better to have a separate profile for upstream builds | 06:05 |
| mahfouz | it starts with "new add-on installed" and that's default theme :) | 06:05 |
| micahg | k | 06:07 |
| mahfouz | micahg: but when I close it and run the other version, default theme is gone again :( | 06:10 |
| micahg | mahfouz: yes, it seems to have to do with the build | 06:10 |
| micahg | I assume you tried a new profile with our build? | 06:11 |
| mahfouz | but both builds use the same .mozilla profile it seems | 06:11 |
| mahfouz | because the new version sees all my old plugins | 06:11 |
| mahfouz | it seems the ppa version suppresses the default theme | 06:11 |
| mahfouz | btw, "Default plugin" is also missing in ppa version | 06:13 |
| mahfouz | from the plugins tab | 06:13 |
| mahfouz | new profile? no I think I didn't | 06:15 |
| mahfouz | I probly used my existing profile | 06:15 |
| micahg | mahfouz: you want to try that quick | 06:15 |
| mahfouz | firefox -ProfileManager | 06:15 |
| mahfouz | ? | 06:15 |
| mahfouz | like this | 06:15 |
| mahfouz | no | 06:16 |
| mahfouz | how do I start without a profile? | 06:16 |
| micahg | firefox -ProfileManager | 06:16 |
| micahg | asac: all fixed except 1 UTF8 issue in the control file | 06:16 |
| mahfouz | hmmm, firefox -ProfileManager starts with my old profile | 06:17 |
| micahg | mahfouz: either use --no-remote or close the browser | 06:20 |
| mahfouz | oh yeah, I had another instance | 06:20 |
| mahfouz | ok, now I have a fresh profile | 06:21 |
| mahfouz | but no default theme there | 06:21 |
| mahfouz | and no "default plugin" | 06:22 |
| micahg | mahfouz: k, I'll see about getting to that | 06:22 |
| TomJaeger | Hi, how is bug #512615 going to be addressed? | 08:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512615 | 08:16 |
| TomJaeger | By patching firefox's static version of cairo or by --enable-system-cairo? | 08:17 |
| TomJaeger | If we were to patch cairo, this might be a good opportunity to also get the patch for bug #217908 approved. Anyway, I'm off to bed. | 08:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 217908 in cairo "FFe: Pixellated Images in Firefox/Opera due to incorrect EXTEND_PAD implementation in several video drivers" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217908 | 08:29 |
| BUGabundo | fta: | 11:11 |
| BUGabundo | fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/367454/ | 11:11 |
| BUGabundo | what have they done to gwibber trunk!!?? | 11:11 |
| Milos_SD | Hi | 12:41 |
| Milos_SD | No fix for that flash issue in firefox 3.7? :( | 12:41 |
| BUGabundo | wfm | 12:44 |
| BUGabundo | what are you seeing Milos_SD | 12:44 |
| BUGabundo | freezes? | 12:44 |
| Milos_SD | yes | 12:44 |
| Milos_SD | on every page that has flash. | 12:44 |
| Milos_SD | firefox just freez | 12:45 |
| Milos_SD | As I can see, it is fixed partly on firefox build that can be downloaded from mozilla ftp | 12:47 |
| Milos_SD | it has been fixed for a few days | 12:47 |
| Milos_SD | somo youtube controls don't work, but at least it doesn't freez :) | 12:48 |
| BUGabundo | turn the process separation option off Milos_SD | 12:50 |
| BUGabundo | I've been doing that for a few days | 12:50 |
| BUGabundo | all fine now | 12:50 |
| BUGabundo | no action on my bug for that , yet | 12:50 |
| Milos_SD | how can I do that? | 12:50 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543037 | 12:51 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 543037 in Plug-ins "OOPP freeze" [Major,Unconfirmed] | 12:51 |
| BUGabundo | http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2010-01-27/multi-process-plugins-on-by-default/ | 12:51 |
| Milos_SD | great, thanks :) | 12:56 |
| Milos_SD | now it doesn't freez | 12:56 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 12:57 |
| BUGabundo | but do remember to change it back | 12:57 |
| BUGabundo | every so often to see if it is fixed | 12:57 |
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| === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_afk | ||
| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_afk | ||
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| micahg | asac: do we want the TB-locales packaging in bzr? | 16:14 |
| === _Tsk__ is now known as _Tsk_ | ||
| === _Tsk__ is now known as _Tsk_ | ||
| TomJaeger | Hi. Which route are you guys going to take for fixing bug #512615? --enable-system-cairo or patching firefox's private version of cairo? | 18:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512615 | 18:45 |
| micahg | TomJaeger: upstream wants this to get into cairo first | 18:49 |
| micahg | and that is stalled, I have to check the cairo ML to figure out why | 18:49 |
| TomJaeger | We all know this is not going to happen in the forseeable future | 18:50 |
| micahg | TomJaeger: that's why I set the milestone to make sure that we get this done before beta 1, one way or another | 18:50 |
| micahg | that's 6 weeks to solve this | 18:51 |
| TomJaeger | That's not a lot of time. I highly doubt this is going to land in cairo within this timeframe and my experience with bug #217908 tells me that the firefox developers don't care about rendering issues on linux anyway. | 18:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 217908 in cairo "FFe: Pixellated Images in Firefox/Opera due to incorrect EXTEND_PAD implementation in several video drivers" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217908 | 18:54 |
| micahg | TomJaeger: I've made a note to check on that bug and on the first one you mentioned | 18:59 |
| micahg | TomJaeger: upstream does care, but they like us are limited on resources | 19:00 |
| TomJaeger | This is why you have a community that is willing to supply patches. | 19:01 |
| TomJaeger | It's not like it's rocket science to get this issue fixed -- it is very well-understood. | 19:02 |
| micahg | well, patches have to match the codebase standards...just like we enforce in Ubuntu | 19:03 |
| micahg | so while one fix might be easy for us, it might not be right for upstream | 19:03 |
| TomJaeger | the generally accepted solution for this is to apply distribution-specific patches -- If we can apply a patch to cairo, we can apply the same patch to firefox's copy of cairo without risking anything. | 19:05 |
| micahg | "we" can't apply it to firefox's cairo, we can either use system cairo, get firefox to apply it to their cairo, or get a patch that cairo will take | 19:06 |
| micahg | option 3 seems to be the best one | 19:06 |
| micahg | and that's what I'll push for at the moment | 19:06 |
| TomJaeger | cairo upstream has already made it very clear that they won't accept a patch in the form that it is currently in ubuntu. | 19:09 |
| micahg | TomJaeger: ok, that doesn't mean they won't take a patch, just not the one we have | 19:12 |
| TomJaeger | It means that there needs to be a consensus as to how they want it done (which there isn't at this point, iirc), it needs to implemented, tested and reviewed -- none of this is likely to happen before lucid is released | 19:15 |
| micahg | TomJaeger: all we can do is try to move the process forward | 19:16 |
| micahg | it's not my decision as to what is finally accepted in Ubuntu, but I know that we want to use a minimum of system libs and patches against firefox at this point | 19:17 |
| micahg | All I can suggest is subscribe to the bug and mark yourself as being affected | 19:18 |
| TomJaeger | re moving the process forward: this is laudable and has the potential to make our life easier in lucid+x, but it's not going to solve the problem for lucid | 19:18 |
| micahg | TomJaeger: that why the milestone is set | 19:19 |
| micahg | it needs to be solved for lucid one way or another | 19:19 |
| micahg | IMHO | 19:19 |
| TomJaeger | I was really hoping the solution would be for upstream to ack our cairo patch. | 19:20 |
| TomJaeger | Personally, I don't care if my browser is called firefox or IceWhatever as long as it provides the best user experience. | 19:21 |
| micahg | TomJaeger: right, but a lot of users do care, so we need to keep the branding intact | 19:22 |
| TomJaeger | which leads to my next question: How do I disable the branding if I want to publish a modified version of firefox in my PPA? | 19:23 |
| micahg | I believe in debian/rules, there's a variable for it | 19:25 |
| micahg | TomJaeger: between lines 42 and 50, comment out except for 44 and 45 | 19:26 |
| TomJaeger | Thanks, that's what I figured. | 19:27 |
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| fta | BUGabundo, yeah, i gave up on gwibber since the new mess landed in trunk. it's totally unusable here. | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo | aha | 20:06 |
| BUGabundo | I still have and am using the old version | 20:06 |
| BUGabundo | rocking fine | 20:06 |
| BUGabundo | testing trunk every so often | 20:06 |
| BUGabundo | have you tried µblogpurple? | 20:06 |
| BUGabundo | finally memory leaks have been fixed | 20:07 |
| BUGabundo | working great for me | 20:07 |
| BUGabundo | or you can use #identichat | 20:07 |
| BUGabundo | its a MUC | 20:07 |
| BUGabundo | server: identichat.prosody.im | 20:07 |
| BUGabundo | use your own nick | 20:08 |
| BUGabundo | then authenticate | 20:08 |
| BUGabundo | fta: that bug from sessions, seem to be changes to google websites code itself | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | they just applied more to mobile sites, like greader | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | 7-15 days sessions are now LOST without option to remain logged in | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | same for API sessions | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | and users (and devs) are being aggressive about it | 21:38 |
| kaddi_ | hi, i was wondering if one of you could help me with FF 3.6. I'm using karmic and did the sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable part, plus an update and a successfull (at least I got no error message) install of FF 3.6, but I can't figure out how to launch Ff-3.6. The command firefox runs firefox 3.5.7 and there is no firefox-3.6 command available | 22:40 |
| kaddi_ | how do i run FF 3.6 after installing it? | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | kaddi_: just upgrade | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | it will replace your current firefox | 22:41 |
| micahg | kaddi_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 22:42 |
| micahg | like he said :) | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: really? dist upgrade? | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade; sudo aptitude full-upgrade | 22:42 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: dist-upgrade is deprecated in favor of safe-upgrade | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | err | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | not for apt-get | 22:42 |
| micahg | no full-upgrade | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | you are mixing your cows | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | :D | 22:42 |
| micahg | hmmm | 22:43 |
| kaddi_ | so there is no way of having both installed like it was possible for FF 3.0 and 3.5 in jaunty? | 22:43 |
| micahg | kaddi_: no | 22:43 |
| micahg | that was a disaster for multiple reasons | 22:43 |
| micahg | you can have 3.6 and 3.7 :) | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | ahahaahahaha | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | he wants uber stable and you give him cutting edge :D | 22:43 |
| kaddi_ | really it was a disaster? I never had trouble with it (once i figured out firefox pointed to the last updated version :p ) | 22:44 |
| micahg | 3.6 is stable | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | is daily ppa using firefox and not firefox-3.6 ? | 22:44 |
| micahg | kaddi_: maintenance + complaints about branding | 22:44 |
| kaddi_ | he's a she btw | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | sorry | 22:44 |
| kaddi_ | what does the package ubufox do? | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | no intention to offend in any way | 22:44 |
| micahg | kaddi_: adds menu options to make firefox do stuff like report bugs | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | just a form of speech, and habbit of head count :\ | 22:45 |
| kaddi_ | non taken. just FYI ;) | 22:45 |
| micahg | and install extensiosn from teh ubuntu repo | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | unfortunatly the female population is not as much as desired :\\\ | 22:45 |
| micahg | ? | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | would love to see 50/50 | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | not that it does matter a single bit | 22:45 |
| kaddi_ | brb | 22:46 |
| fta | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kwwii/4323419643/sizes/l/ | 23:00 |
| fta | asac, had a haircut? | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | I don't know half of those | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | need to look better | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | where should I be looking? | 23:03 |
| fta | green jacket | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | ohhh tooooo far | 23:05 |
| fta | rick is there too | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | looks younger then on his identica pick | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | *pic | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | I do know most of the first 2 rows on the botom right | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | KDE ppl i met at | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | KII | 23:07 |
| fta | 2nd row is definitely not kde people | 23:09 |
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