=== rberger_ is now known as rberger [14:20] I am trying to make an upstart script in Ubuntu Karmic for Virtualbos-OSE 3. Basically I want it to start up some virtual machines on boot, respawn them if they die, and save their state / shut them down if the box shuts down. My current script is http://pastebin.com/m8e8fd79. [14:21] Can anyone help out? Its not working when I boot the box. [21:08] Keybuk: going to FOSDEM ? [21:28] he's probably in the US now, not sure he will be back in time [21:29] although he's very welcome of course ☺ [21:30] He did a talk last year so I guessed he might [21:32] they are at a sprint in Portland AFAIK [21:36] where in the US is he? [21:36] I did not do so much upstart work in the last year. [21:36] Even I've not done all that much [21:36] Washington, it seems. [21:37] graduation, $dayjob, life's been interesting [21:37] ion: as in DC? [21:39] A GeoIP lookup puts his IP address at 45.9420,-122.6720 with no guarantee of accuracy of any kind, of course. [21:40] ion: smart money puts him in Portland [21:41] Indeed, a whois lookup on the IP address says the block is owned by a company in Portland, Oregon. [21:42] ion: you're a good stalker [21:42] I know there is a sprint with lots of Canonical people in Portland, so I supposed he was there ;) [21:43] sadmac: On the Internet, perhaps. :-P [21:43] anyway, I'm not sure exactly when it ends [21:44] I will be at FOSDEM, but I guess that's less important for keesj... ;-) [21:44] I don't really know :p [21:45] Meanwhile, /me is amazed of how easy failover between computers is in Erlang: http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/erlang/doc/design_principles/distributed_applications.html [21:45] ion: well, that's what Erlang was designed for [21:47] Obviously, but it could have been made much more difficult by worse designers. [21:47] true [21:48] * sadmac2 tries to think of actual relevant products coming out of Ericcson proper. [21:49] non-pure functional languages kind of worry me. Its an opportunity to not really "get" functional programming. [21:49] sadmac2: their mobile phones & TV sets have a pretty good reputation AFAIK ;) [21:49] last years FOSDEM I really had fun with ADA. I wonder what this year will bring , JanC is that TOR related to the tor proxy? [21:49] JanC: the mobile phones are Sony-Ericcson, which is a very different animal [21:49] JanC: not sure about the TVs [21:50] * sadmac2 knew a Sony-Ericcson employee [21:50] sadmac2: now yes, my brother had an Ericsson mobile phone for years, and they don't make any like that anymore ;) [21:50] keesj: ADA? as in the programming language? (I'd think not) [21:51] JanC: brick-o-phone? [21:51] it wasn't too big, but you could throw it against a brick wall and it would still work :P [21:52] I think they still use Erlang for (mobile) telephony switches though? [21:53] I’m sure Erlang’s telephony infrastructure stuff has a good reputation. They boast 99.9999999 % (“nine nines”) reliability for some products. And having learned about the workings of Erlang, i can see how such reliability can be achieved. [21:53] thats' why they designed it after all [21:53] My dad used to work on that stuff at Alcatel [21:54] I mean, Nokia telephony switches ran on Windows in the past (not sure if that's still true) [21:54] or was it their SMS software or whatever [21:54] I always found that weird ;-) [21:55] don't hear much from them these days actually. There's the n900, but I don't encounter it often. [21:55] (1 − 99.9999999 %) years = 30 milliseconds, btw. :-) [21:55] keesj: unlikely ;) [21:56] I am, indeed, in Portland, OR [21:56] Keybuk: if you were in DC I'd tell you to move your departure to RDU and come take a bus and see me. [21:57] no, the better coast [22:00] Keybuk: you're not even a citizen yet and you're already a regional snob? :) [22:00] "yet" ? [22:01] so, who else outside of keesj & me comes to FOSDEM? ☺ [22:01] Keybuk: yet! [22:01] sadmac2: I don't think there's any way for me to *become* a citizen [22:01] Keybuk: don't you know? after about your 25th trip in we just shanghai you. [22:02] Keybuk: going to Japan has me feeling nice and rosy about the US immigration process. There's 10th generation Koreans over there who aren't citizens. [22:03] Keybuk: its impossible in the literal sense. If your parents aren't Japanese, neither are you. Period. Forever. [22:09] huh? [22:09] I was referring to the US [22:13] sadmac2: that's weird, as at least 50% of the people in Japan are actually Korean ((pre-)historically speaking) ;) [22:23] the n900 is rly great (and runs upstart) [22:25] 0.3.8 that is [22:44] Keybuk: yes. I conducted a massive segue. [22:45] right [23:07] * Keybuk has no degree, no phd, etc. [23:07] means no immigration [23:08] no visa [23:12] Keybuk: there is always the lottery IIRC ? ;) [23:12] or was that in Canada [23:12] that's Canada I think [23:12] US uses a points system, and I have zarro points [23:13] ah, well, who cares ;)