[01:08] does anyone here know what (or how) controls the fans on a laptop in xubuntu? [01:20] Hi, all. [01:21] ...I had a quick question about Xubuntu, if anyone's around... [01:22] just ask, don't ask to ask [01:22] !question [01:22] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:22] hello [01:22] how can I become my ubuntu linux in xubuntu [01:23] my machine is so low [01:23] sorry by my english [01:23] Ok... I just installed Xubuntu from the alternate install CD, x86. It's on an older Toshiba laptop with a 1.6GHz CPU and 370M RAM... After installation, it takes about 15 minutes or more to boot up, and after booting, the processor runs at 100%. [01:24] and the version is... [01:24] The System Monitor only shows about 30-40% processor usage, and that usage is by System Monitor. [01:24] Sorry... Version 9.10. [01:24] Downloaded today, so it's the latest release available. [01:25] It should be doing the indexing and searching for updates, within a minute or two of log in. then it should settle down to 0% or so [01:26] binari0: I'm sorry, but I don't understand your question [01:27] binari0, the easiest way of converting ubuntu to xubuntu (if that was your question) is to install the xubuntu-desktop package [01:27] binari0, but that will leave you with a lot of gnome-stuff that you don't need. second easiest is clean install of xubuntu :) (at least if you ask me) [01:27] ok thank you [01:27] binari0, third option is to try to remove all the gnome-stuff after installing xubuntu-desktop [01:28] binari0, but that might eat up more time than reinstalling... [01:28] np [01:28] It's been up for about an hour and a half now, and is *very* unresponsive. (resizing the System Monitor window hasn't redrawn the window after a minute and a half or more) [01:29] What video card, awt? [01:29] Not sure... It's a Toshiba Satellite 1415... Let me look it up real quick... [01:32] NVIDIA GeForce4 420 Go graphics controller; 16MB external video memory. [01:33] You didn't install compiz? [01:34] No. It's just the base install from expert mode. Kernel parameters are: noapic nolapic acpi=off [01:40] hello, need some printer help here, anyone around? [01:45] ...Using 'top' in the terminal, it looks like 'update-apt-xapi' is using most of the CPU. Can I assume that it will stop eventually? [01:48] I would think so. It must be updating xapian-index, which is a good thing, even if it takes a while [01:49] You could stop it, but then when installing applications, some will not be found by searching for them before the install [02:01] ochosi thank you I installed === dbdii407 is now known as Guest80775 [02:38] anyone available to help me with a printer issue? [02:46] hello?? === Guest80775 is now known as dbdii407 [03:24] Quirkly, what printer, what issue [03:27] nikolam, basically here's the situation [03:27] printer connected to a windows machine [03:27] I can see the share folders on that machine, and at some point some smb command -L that I did, it showed the printer in the list, so I know it sees it at some level [03:28] but I suspect that cups is broken on my client machine, cause umm....it's just not working right at all [03:28] nikolam, basically, in the Administration -> Printing dialog, only option not greyed out is the Connect... option, so I can't add new printers....and when I try to connect, I get an httpConnectionEncrypt error [03:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#Graphical Configuration [03:32] aha.. [03:32] I will seriously mail pie and cookies if this can help me get this working [03:33] dont think so [03:33] hm [03:34] lol I saw those instructions before...I don't think they helped me lol [03:34] maybe this is somewhat better: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP [03:35] but looks much same to me [03:36] wait, it gives me some results [03:36] smbclient -L //192.168.0.109 in my case, it shows the list of stuffs [03:36] however, where it says smbclient //192.168.0.109 -U user ummm [03:36] I get error [03:36] Not enough '\' characters in service [03:40] btw, what printer is it [03:43] rhis looks also the same but says something about disabling bidirectional printin in windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter [03:44] also says, reducing ptinter share name to 8 or less chars is advisable for widnows sahred printer [03:46] ummm.....well, that might do some good [03:46] but see, I can't even add a printer to begin with [03:47] nikolam, printer is a Brother M210 something or other.....yeah I'll go double check the share name [03:48] see what process printer adding window starts [03:48] and try starting it with gksu or sudo [03:49] no dice on that option nikolam [03:50] I'll keep reading that info though, see what else helps [03:50] funny thing is I could walk over to the machine and print what's needed....but umm, too easy? lol [03:51] winbindd not found....hmmm.....sounds important, lol [03:51] use vnc for now :) start vnc server on win machine :) [03:52] sounds like [03:52] lol, that would require getting off my butt lol, trying to avoid that [03:52] machine is 10 feet away ;p [03:53] hmm, there are ways of installing and starting vnc servive remotely on win macine [03:54] lol, still, the net effect is that I'm printing off of that comptuer, and might as well just go do this at that point [03:55] I wanted to print something so I could do some coding, instead I've spent the last almost 4 hours trying to connect to the remote printer lol [03:58] cupsaddsmb ? [03:58] anyway, got to go now [03:58] okies [03:59] yeah I think I just have to fix cups [03:59] take care! :) [03:59] from the looks of it [03:59] you too [05:06] Hello [05:08] ne1 talking [05:47] good morning xubuntu developers, coders and girators. [12:39] Can you install Ubuntu Software Center in Xubuntu Karmic? [12:40] yes [12:40] good, just found it in add/remove [12:40] you can install any software from ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu/etc. [12:41] Why it was not included in Xubuntu cd? [12:41] no idea [13:12] jarnos: probably because nobody tested it a the time [14:06] Okay, now let's see if this window gets burried and I miss out on all the fun... [14:14] hi [14:14] Welcome, slow-motion [14:14] hi Pres-Gas [14:40] highvoltage, what IRC client are you using? [15:12] Pres-Gas: irssi [15:13] Getting kicked out a bit, highvoltage [15:16] Pres-Gas: I had some Internet problems, seem mostly sorted out now [15:28] what up. i'm not a total newbie to linux, have some experience. i have a few questions, anyone willing to help a brother out? [15:30] !ask | og_steve :) [15:30] og_steve :): Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [15:30] ha nice thanks [15:30] :) [15:31] !ask is x/ubuntu compatible with intel pentium m processors? [15:32] og_steve, of course it is :) [15:33] og_steve, no need for the ! preceding your questions [15:33] ha ok [15:33] does anyone here run xubuntu as a dual boot OS with w7? [15:34] Not me, but it should just be possible - though installing Windows first can save a lot of headaches because it doesn't take other operating systems into account [15:34] i'm running a toshiba intel pentium m 1.4 ghz 512 mb and it seems like it's running really sluggish. is it because i only have 512 mb ram? [15:34] toshiba laptop* [15:34] Balsaq, might as well do, just need to install the proper package (currently ubuntu/win7) [15:35] og_steve, could be [15:35] It should not be extremely sluggish on 512 MB [15:35] Just not a high-end machine but should run just fine to not be annoying [15:35] that's what i thought, but it's pretty bad [15:35] (With normal activities) [15:35] like all i'm trying to do is surf the web [15:35] og_steve, is that without applications open? [15:36] og_steve, there are other options you might try to test it out, such as lubuntu-desktop, openbox or others, then see if its xfce or something else (browser or otherwise) [15:36] the only thing i have open is firefox [15:36] aha [15:36] og_steve, Firefox is known to be a memory hog at times [15:36] lots of flash and extensions? [15:36] ah really what else can i use? [15:36] Especially when using some plugins [15:36] nope [15:36] og_steve, lots of sites open? Has Firefox been open long or is it immediately after startup? [15:36] actually to be honest, even before i open firefox it's sluggish [15:37] Hmm :S [15:37] i have xubuntu on a 2.4 with 512rdram and it is lightning fast [15:37] yeah see that's what i'm sayin! [15:37] og_steve, you could check Applications->System->System Monitor, then enable the Writable Memory column in preferences [15:37] i just switched over from XP and XP ran smoother than this [15:37] That would allow you to check what application is using a lot of memory [15:37] and i have ubuntu in 1.7 with 512 and it is also very fast [15:38] i have found that a clean install of xp rpo (with no bloatware) boot in exactly the same time as xubuntu...40 secinds from off to the internet [15:38] if all else is good [15:39] Balsaq, yeah, the main problem with XP is that it very quickly becomes slow once you start actually using it, with virus scan et al [15:39] i dunno... it almost seems like it might be a display problem [15:39] my system resources are pretty low [15:40] og_steve, hmm, you could check whether you have enabled the restricted (in license) hardware drivers [15:40] like the windows and stuff lag when you minimize and open and close them [15:40] Do this through Applications->System->Hardware Drivers [15:40] yeah i have the nVidia drivers enabled [15:40] Ah OK [15:40] i dunno thanks for your help... i was planning on upgrading the memory anyways so i'll try that [15:41] cause this laptop has an oboard GPU [15:41] so adding more memory will probably help everything [15:41] Oh that's nice anyway :) [15:41] what was that writeable memory column thing? i couldn't find it [15:42] ah ok i got it, what does that do? [15:42] That lists how much RAM applications are using [15:43] ah ok [15:43] You can click it in the columns list to sort the list on it so you can see the evil guy ;-) [15:43] i dont think adding memeory will help og_steve....1st look at the system monitor and see if you are even using the memory that you have....i have never been able to use all of the 512 that i have with xubuntu [15:43] Fx is using 155.1MB for me now, which is normal :S [15:44] ya i'm only using 115 MB [15:44] damn [15:44] i'll bet it's the gpu [15:45] only thing i don't like about this laptop [15:45] And there's nothing using even more? [15:45] 115 mb in use for the total system [15:45] Then it's probably not RAM :) [15:46] gahh [15:46] even my w7 computer hasen't gone over 384 ram yet.... [15:46] really huh [15:46] oppps...i mena about a gig [15:46] opps [15:46] ha [15:46] hmm [15:46] it hovers around a gig now that i looked [15:46] it's gotta be a display problem then [15:47] ok wait here's something [15:47] my CPU load is at 99% [15:47] whoah [15:47] and all i have open is XChat, system monitor and firefox [15:47] That sounds like a bottleneck :) Is that constantly the case [15:47] *? [15:47] system monitor causes that [15:47] its the biggest pig i ever saw [15:47] ha [15:47] yup [15:48] is there any other program i can use to monitor system performance that isn't a hog? [15:48] It's 36% for me [15:48] You can install xfce4-taskmanager [15:48] where can i get that? [15:48] But you can check the %CPU column to see if System Monitor is really the problem [15:48] og_steve, Applications->Add/Remove... :) [15:48] from the console [15:49] on older processors it take all the juice [15:49] ya it's system monitor it's using 90% [15:50] wow [15:50] yup [15:50] :S [15:50] but it is a nice feature, just use it for a inute and close it out [15:50] yeah [15:50] minute [15:51] steve...were you runnung it all the time when you said the computer was sluggish? [15:51] i mean og)steve [15:51] nope [15:51] og_steve :) [15:51] so its still slow? [15:51] it's still running sluggish even when system monitor is closed [15:51] yeah [15:51] no bull a 1.4 with 512 will run xubuntu fast....hmmmmmm [15:52] i know right [15:52] that's why i installed it [15:53] i just wanna use this machine to surf the web so i figured i'd go light with linux [15:54] i suppose if you cant make it fast you can try puppylinux, i have that on 400mgz machines and it surfs real fast even on those [15:55] og_steve, is it karmic 9.10? [15:55] ah hah! [15:55] huh? [15:56] og_steve, he means if you installed Xubuntu 9.10 (karmic was the development codename) [15:56] 9.04 is the lightning fast one! [15:56] ah [15:56] yeah it is 9.10 [15:56] good job bazhang! [15:56] 9.10 should run fast as well [15:57] lubuntu-desktop is an option then if you feel xfce is not up to the task, I still think it is firefox and not xfce though [15:57] can he run seamonkey on xubuntu? [15:57] do you think downgrading to 9.04 will help though? [15:57] i mean, like i said it's sluggish even wo firefox [15:58] It's not so much Xubuntu as is that's a problem, it's that your either running into a hardware (driver) problem or a software bug [15:58] It might be that the bug was not present yet in 9.04 but it might also be less work to fix this than to reinstall Xubuntu [15:59] ah yeah [15:59] gotcha [16:00] i found some nVidia X.Org drivers [16:00] Where? [16:00] gonna try those [16:00] Be careful with that [16:00] in the add/remove [16:00] Where did you find it? [16:00] the add/remove applications thing [16:01] og_steve, didn't Applications->System->Hardware Drivers present them? Otherwise they might not be meant for your graphics card specifically [16:01] well there's newer versions [16:01] Hardware isn't really my thing, so I daren't advise on whether or not to install this, but if you do, it's your risk ;-) [16:02] gah nevermind [16:02] they're not for my gpu [16:02] Too bad [16:02] ah well [16:02] it's not too bad i mean i can live with it [16:02] i just thought i'd see if y'all knew of anything [16:02] like issues [16:03] There must be a reason, you might also try the xubuntu-users mailinglist [16:03] It might be that people that can solve this just aren't online now ;-) [16:03] does linux support the speedstep technology? [16:04] how do i get to the mailinglist? [16:04] I don't know what that is :) But Wikipedia tells me it's Intel which is generally good with Linuxes :) [16:04] Here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users [16:04] Hmm, does ubottu know of that? [16:04] !xubuntu-users [16:05] Too bad :S [16:05] awesome thanks [16:06] think it is !lists [16:07] !lists [16:07] Mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailing lists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com [16:07] Hmm, I want Xubuntu's lists :S [16:07] http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users [16:08] from that link ^^ [16:08] Yeah but I want ubottu to know that :) [16:42] I'm trying to run pm-suspend and pm-hibernate without password. I added with visudo : username ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate, /usr/sbin/pm-suspend [16:42] but still I get asked for the password [16:43] what can it be I do wrong? [16:44] did you log out and log in again or restart the system after the changes? [16:44] yes [16:44] btw [16:45] perhaps I should change it to: [16:45] username = NOPASSWD: ... [16:47] no that was not allowed [16:51] * charlie-tca exhausted all his knowledge about such things already [16:51] Oh, what about in the screensaver preferences, uncheck "lock screen on suspend"? [16:52] I'm using dwm and not xfce4 [16:52] so that is why I want to run the commands without password [16:52] going to reboot now to test new setup [16:55] no, didn't work either [16:55] must find some documentation on the sudo thingy [16:56] man sudo ? [17:02] An application is preventing me from suspending by the power manager in karmic. What to do? [17:04] jarnos, fix it [17:08] worked! [17:09] one must put the username ALL=NOPASSWD ... at the end of the file, not in the section it says in the file. If not it is overridden [17:09] by the %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL [17:09] jarnos: remove/uninstall that application [17:34] Does anyone know about linux conf?? [17:35] !ask | becker_11 [17:35] becker_11: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [17:36] linux conf is a year conf about linux I was thinking of going to the 2011 conf in brisbane but the web site only talks about delegates and I'm just a user [17:37] so does anyone know if I can go or is it only open to people working in the community??? [17:37] Oh, sorry :P [17:47] becker_11: considering that they even have a hobbyist ticket rate [17:47] becker_11: but why don't you contact the organizers? [17:47] becker_11: it's their fault that they didn't explain it on their site [17:48] TheSheep, yeah will do, was already logged in here so thought I would just ask the question [17:48] I'm not sure we have anyone from au here [17:48] * becker_11 anyone have a link for linux anon?? This damn penguin bug has hit me fair between the eyes [17:49] TheSheep, yeah you do, Me I'm in Perth [17:49] linux anon? [17:50] charlie-tca: I don't know which application it is. [17:50] charlie-tca: And I need the power manager,. [17:51] TheSheep, like AA was just a bit of humor sorry [17:54] with what progran can i record voice over the microphone? [17:55] TheSheep, thanks for checking I have finally found the hobbyiest info you mentioned [18:05] slow-motion, sound recorder [18:06] i have already found a solution [18:07] slow-motion, okay [18:07] did it with arecord [18:10] beginner question To update your computer you can use synaptic, apt-get in a shell or (I've never used it so I might be wrong) add/remove applications do you have to pick one method and stick to it or doesn't it matter if you chop and change between them ?? [18:11] I don't know about add/remove applications, but you can switch as often as you like between synaptic, apt-get, and aptitude [18:12] hey charlie-tca that's good because I most often use apt-get but still occasionally open synaptic [18:13] Yeah, me too. It depends on what I am doing at the moment [18:13] exactly [19:56] anyone issuing troubles with the replay of 2 audio files simultaneously using alsa 1.0.22 on xubuntu 9.10? [19:58] goblin: let me guess, your audio card only has a single channel? [19:58] goblin: enable software mixing in alsa [19:59] i tried this via config file .asoundrc enabling dmix plugin in it, but some kind a way it's not working [20:00] sound card is from asus mb btw, intel-hda [20:18] hi i'm trying to use the hardware drivers utility, and whenever i try to add a new driver a dialog box comes up that says "you are not authorized to perform this action." i am logged in as an admin === emma_ is now known as emma [21:16] Linux noob question: I have an 802.11 driver that I downloaded, unzipped and did "make" on. What do I do with the resulting files to install the driver? [21:25] whatram, what do you mean? [21:28] man depmod [21:28] Do I need to put them in a folder so the driver shows up in the "hardware drivers" window? [21:28] hey guys [21:29] I am wondering I restarted my computer and the top taskbar and the bottom I guess another taskbar lol is missing? [21:30] whatram, which driver is it? It is not supported in the kernel? [21:31] !panels | JulieJulie [21:31] JulieJulie: Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [21:31] charlie-tca, Merci! [21:32] You are welcome [21:33] It's a broadcom SDA? I don't have access to a wired connection so I put the tar.gz on my flash drive. [21:37] whatram, ok, but you have tried the kernel and found that it doesn't support your device ? [21:37] whatram, things are must easier if you do not need to compile yourself [21:39] whatram, download these packages [21:40] bcmwl-kernel-source bcmwl-modaliases [21:47] I was mistaken, the driver is Broadcom STA not SDA [22:02] n8 [22:58] is lubuntu replacing xubuntu? [22:59] no [23:01] can any1 help me install hydra it says libssh2 wrong pointer i got libssh v0.11 file but theres no info on installing it [23:02] Hi... how I can make Xubuntu don't save sessions (neither ask me if I want to) when I log out? Also, it would be great if the exit button simply turned off my PC. I don't want it to ask if I want to logout, turn off, reboot, etc... [23:03] I tried using xfce4-session-manager but couldn't manage.. [23:03] can any1 help me install hydra it says libssh2 wrong pointer i got libssh v0.11 file but theres no info on installing it [23:04] lavin, please do not repeat [23:04] sorry [23:04] knome: any ideas [23:05] lavin, libssh should be in the repositories. are you trying to install hydra from *source* ? [23:05] knome: no .tar.gz, the repo for offensive-security seems to be down [23:06] .tar.gz suggests it is source files [23:06] sorry i knew to linux :P [23:07] you probably should wait until you can install it from repositories then [23:07] would b easier dont know if its me but i followed tut on adding repos correctly so ????? [23:08] i'm sorry, i'm just going to bed [23:08] maybe somebody else will be able to help you [23:08] good luck [23:09] no worrys good idea i think m8