seb128mvo, there?00:08
seb128mvo, when would be a good time to sit and do the compiz changes?00:13
chrisccoulsonwell, i think i might get an early night00:51
mvoseb128: we can do them now I guess00:55
mvoseb128: I just need to finish another task first00:55
seb128mvo, ok, ping me when ready00:56
seb128mvo, and tell me where you want to go00:56
seb128mvo, ie if you have space in your room, we have some there in the desktop one00:56
seb128chrisccoulson, 1am?00:56
seb128chrisccoulson, not really early!00:57
chrisccoulsonseb128 - it's quite early for me ;)00:57
seb128chrisccoulson, have a good night00:57
seb128chrisccoulson, yeah, for once I'm still working when you go to bed ;-)00:57
chrisccoulsongood night, and enjoy the rest of your day :)00:57
mvogood night chrisccoulson00:57
chrisccoulson'night mvo00:57
seb128mvo, hello?01:16
mvoseb128: hi, sorry - in a meeting01:16
seb128mvo, ok, tomorrow rather then now I guess?01:17
mvoseb128: yes, sorry01:17
seb128mvo, that's ok01:17
seb128mvo, let's say tomorrow morning then?01:17
seb128mvo, before something else book you again for meetings etc01:17
* seb128 hugs mvo01:18
seb128something -> somebody01:18
tseliotKeybuk: does "update-initramfs -u" update the latest kernel or does it update the current kernel?01:27
Keybukkernel that will be used on the next reboot01:27
tseliotok, so (usually) it should be the newest kernel01:28
seiflotfyHEY GUYS01:58
seiflotfyis there a way of installing 2 different ubuntu distros on the same pc?01:58
bryce2seiflotfy, yes, but this is the wrong channel for that question01:59
seiflotfyoops srry01:59
seiflotfywhere 2 go01:59
bryce2seiflotfy, to answer the question, just put in the other install cd and it will ofter to resize the partitions for the second install02:00
bryce2seiflotfy, go to #ubuntu or http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu02:00
bryce2seiflotfy, it's pretty easy, and if you have trouble the people there can help you02:00
seiflotfyi have a partition for it02:01
seiflotfyits just i want ot make sure i can boot karmic and lucic02:01
seb128james_w, do you still have bug #495326 on your todolist?02:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 495326 in lazr.restfulclient "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'self_link'" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49532602:24
seb128james_w, we want to get bughugger in lucid and that's sort of blocking it, do you plan to upload the change soon or is that ok I do it?02:25
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onilneed help: my application windows blacks out frequently for a minute or so leaving other processes also stalled .During this process blinking LED stops blinking and continues to glow.No work can be done during that time till the black screen is gone .PLZ help me over this issue.I m a noob, migrated from windows to ubuntu.03:30
bcurtiswxbug #462994 .  I think its right to reopen the telepathy-mission-control bug, but it will have to stay with ubuntu and I think it should be fixable (and im ok if you feel differently).. and since the empathy part has desktop-bugs subscribed.. should they be assigned to the mission control bug?03:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 462994 in telepathy-mission-control-5 "Account details unremovable." [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46299403:34
jimisrvroxhaving wireless problems would appreciate some help: http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png05:49
vishjimisrvrox: you can ask for Help/support in #ubuntu , but seems your problem might be better served in #nm05:50
jimisrvroxI wasnt even aware of the network manager chan thank you05:51
jimisrvroxglatzor: hey are you good with wireless?06:03
chrisccoulsongrrrr, somebody is supplying a version of glib2.0 somewhere in a PPA for jaunty, which is making nautilus crash10:24
chrisccoulsonusers have started reporting nautilus crashes in jaunty since a few days ago10:25
vishchrisccoulson: elementary nautilus?10:28
albasheershow to convert pdf to word10:45
gnomefreaki cant recall the command to use when wanting to change the login settings, if someone knows it please let me know what it is12:39
* Ng chuckles at his old X40. With an SSD the IO is so much faster that login is now CPU bound and the login sound seems to jump over itself and sounds like a weird remix12:50
chrisccoulsonhey Nafai14:22
chrisccoulsonhow are you?14:22
NafaiDoing pretty good.14:22
NafaiReally starting to click with C + Gtk.  :)  I've done C.  And I've done PyGtk.  But the intersection hasn't necessarily meant I would hit the ground running. :)14:23
NafaiHow are you?  Got all your new fun hardware yet?14:24
chrisccoulsonNafai - yeah, i'm good thanks. apparently, my new hardware has arrived at the house today14:25
chrisccoulsonso i'll get to play with it when i finish work :)14:26
NafaiWhere are you located?14:26
chrisccoulsonbirmingham, UK14:26
NafaiPleasant Grove, Utah, USA14:26
chrisccoulsonrodrigo_ - you there?14:27
chrisccoulsonNafai - what stuff are you working on at the moment? You're doing app inidicator things aren't you?14:37
NafaiRight now I'm working on porting gnome-control-center (basically the typing monitor) to app-indicators14:41
chrisccoulsonNafai - cool, that sounds quite interesting14:41
NafaiYeah, it is.14:41
chrisccoulsoni looked at porting the new tracker status icon to an application indicator, but the new system is not nearly flexible enough yet14:42
chrisccoulsonthe primary function of the new status icon for tracker is to indicate indexing progress, and it does that with a tooltip, and some progressbars in the menu14:42
chrisccoulsonneither of which is supported by the app indicators yet ;)14:43
rodrigo_chrisccoulson, yes14:46
chrisccoulsonhey rodrigo_ - some jaunty users seem to be upgrading to the glib version you have in your PPA14:47
chrisccoulsonand then reporting nautilus crashes on launchpad14:47
rodrigo_chrisccoulson, oh14:47
rodrigo_chrisccoulson, do you have any backtrace?14:47
chrisccoulsonrodrigo_ bug 516476, bug 515336 and bug 51543714:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 516476 in nautilus "desktop icons disappear on accessing the trash folder" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51647614:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 515336 in nautilus "nautilus crashes when TRASH, COMPUTER, or NETWORK clicked" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51533614:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 515437 in nautilus "after aplying update for libglib2.0 from version 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.1 to version 2.22.3-0ubuntu2-ppa2~jaunty and libsoup-gnome2.4-1 version 2.26.0-0ubuntu3 to 2.28.1-2ubuntu1-ppa1~jaunty I can not us... (dup-of: 515336)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51543714:48
chrisccoulsonnobody has provided a backtrace yet, but i closed the reports before i figured out i can view where the packages come from on launchpad14:48
rodrigo_chrisccoulson, the glib version in that PPA should be ABI compatible with the one in jaunty, so let me know when you get a backtrace, please14:50
Nafairodrigo_: You are the upstream maintainer of gnome-control-panel, correct?  I'm working on a patch for app-indicator support...I'll have a patch attached to a bug when I'm finished.14:51
rodrigo_Nafai, I am one of the maintainers, yes14:51
rodrigo_Nafai, are you attaching the patch to launchpad, or gnome's bugzilla?14:56
NafaiI'll first attach it to launchpad, and after kenvandine approves it, I'll attach it to bugzilla14:56
pittididrocks: bonjour16:06
chrisccoulsonhey pitti16:14
chrisccoulsongood morning ;)16:14
milanbvchrisccoulson: hi! do you think you'll find the time to package the g-s-t and friends soon?16:53
milanbvI think we really need more extensive testing before I release the last beta16:53
chrisccoulsonmilanbv: yes, it's still on my TODO list. but i've been busy recently :)16:54
milanbvyeah, I guess you have ;-)16:54
hyperairchrisccoulson: hey, got a minute for a PM?16:54
chrisccoulsonhyperair: possibly16:54
didrockshey pitti17:02
didrockspitti: I was connected lately but I had my breakfast :)17:03
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popeyis there any chance someone can look at bug 420999? asac ?17:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 420999 in network-manager "[karmic] Network manager add DNS servers only once for mobile broadband" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42099917:27
popeythis is happening on a stock Ubuntu install 9.10, with a 3G dongle. No DNS entries are in /etc/resolv.conf, making net connection unusable, adding a nameserver entry manually sorts it, but it's messy.17:28
popeynote: the bug says nm ppa, but the install I have here is from a shipit cd, no PPAs17:29
pittirickspencer3: do you need me up there? I'm with Kees, debugging pm-utils (one of my sprint TODOs)17:59
rickspencer3pitti, heh18:00
rickspencer3I'm in the conference call room18:00
rickspencer3seb128, could you please take over whip cracking responsibilities?18:00
rickspencer3kenvandine, stop talking and get to work!18:00
seb128rickspencer3, yes? ;-)18:01
* seb128 whip cracking noises18:01
* Nafai is glad he is out of reach of the whip18:05
TheMusoOuch, that hurt. :p18:06
NafaiSomeone needs to tell tedg that the API docs for libindicator on his site are broken.  The internal links don't work. :)18:06
didrocksrickspencer3: hum, I saw you have embedded quidgets tree in bughugger. Is that intentional? (and no rename to quickly-widget too)18:15
djsiegelAmaranth: ping18:29
djsiegeljcastro: hey18:31
djsiegeljcastro: think you could blog about some paper cuts today?18:32
djsiegeljust mention 5 or 10 of them with links?18:32
jcastrodjsiegel: Sure18:42
vishseb128: hi.. fix for Bug #487208  , just enables the theming support for the tooltips right?19:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 487208 in gtk+2.0 "Make tooltips consistent with Ubuntu's look and feel" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48720819:03
seb128vish, hi, what do you mean, what else do you want from gtk?19:04
vishseb128: nah , om26er marked the papercut task as fixed , i wanted to change it ..19:04
* vish was just double checking19:05
seb128vish, the theme has not been updated yet if that's what you are asking for there19:06
seb128vish, but kwwii is on it19:06
vishseb128: yeah , kwwii was mentioning , but the bug was prematurely closed...  , I was just making sure:D19:07
seb128to be clear the gtk task is fixed19:07
seb128please don't reopen this one19:07
seb128you can open a theme one though19:07
vishseb128: yup , i understood that :) , was about to open the theme task ;)19:07
seb128pochu, hi19:35
seb128pochu, you should drop gir1.0-webkit-1.0 from the gir-introspection source19:35
seb128pochu, it's built by webkit nowadays19:35
chrisccoulsonhey seb12820:04
seb128hey chrisccoulson20:04
seb128how are you?20:04
chrisccoulsonyeah, good thanks. just playing around on my new hardware20:04
seb128what did you get?20:05
seb128your laptop is arrived?20:05
chrisccoulsonseb128 - yeah, my laptop arrived today20:05
seb128which one did you take?20:05
seb128ssd drive?20:05
chrisccoulsoni didn't get a ssd in the end (i've already spent quite a lot of money ;))20:06
chrisccoulsoni just tried putting lucid on it20:06
seb128hum, "tried"20:06
chrisccoulsonyeah, karmic works fine, and everything is supported20:07
chrisccoulsonbut lucid is completely unusable on it20:07
chrisccoulsonit freezes before i've even had a chance to log in20:07
seb128what dell is that?20:07
chrisccoulsonand GDM doesn't show until i switch to a different VT and then switch back to the one that GDM is on20:07
chrisccoulsonit's a E550020:07
seb128did you try without splash?20:08
chrisccoulsonseb128 - i'll try that in a second20:08
chrisccoulsonright, without splash, it seems to boot ok20:10
chrisccoulsonand it's gone for 30 seconds so far without freezing20:10
chrisccoulsoni've even got to a usable desktop now20:10
chrisccoulsonseb128 - so, booting without splash seems to fix it ;)20:11
baptistemm_chrisccoulson, I seen you're the latest who touched gnome-terminal, and I wanted to work to update to 2.29.6, how can i update the patch 99_autoconf20:11
chrisccoulsonbaptistemm_ - you can just run "autoreconf"20:12
chrisccoulsoni think that is all that is in that patch20:12
chrisccoulsoni only touched it recently to fix one of our patches20:12
seb128chrisccoulson, good20:17
seb128chrisccoulson, usually "autoconf" is enough for those20:17
seb128baptistemm_, ^20:17
seb128if there is no makefile change20:17
chrisccoulsonhey pitti20:17
baptistemm_should it be updated for each new release? or rather, how can I know when I should update such patch?20:18
baptistemm_seb128, okay20:18
seb128when it doesn't apply update it20:18
seb128which is usually on every new version20:18
chrisccoulsonbah, it froze again20:25
chrisccoulsonseb128 - it seems that my freeze is Xorg crashing20:35
chrisccoulsonand it only happens when i hit the enter key20:35
seb128is that an intel card?20:36
chrisccoulsonseb128 - yeah, it's intel20:36
chrisccoulsoni just installed sshd on it now, so I can make sure it's still alive when it happens next20:36
TheMusochrisccoulson: Where does this happen?20:41
chrisccoulsonTheMuso, on my dell latitude e5500. it appears to lock up after hitting the enter key a few times20:42
chrisccoulsonbut /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old would suggest that Xorg is crashing20:42
geserseb128: I'm having issues in using evince (lucid) in presentation mode on my dual-screen setup (http://www.bienia.de/tmp/evince-screenshot.png, the visible wallpaper is my smaller left monitor, the black part and the cutoff presentation the "main" monitor where evince is running in presentation mode). Is this a problem of evince or some library?20:47
seb128I don't know20:48
seb128I would say open a bug on evince20:48
geserok, thanks20:48
seb128the multi screen configs are not that common and not well tested I guess20:48
woozychrisccoulson: it probably also crashes if you have "blank display" set for lid-close and you actually close the lid ;)21:45
chrisccoulsonwoozy - i've not tried that yet21:45
woozyat least that's what the e6400/6500 does on intel21:45
chrisccoulsonlooks like i've got some serious debugging to do then21:45
woozyI also had problems logging in here, I think plymouth and X were fighting with each other21:46
woozyI got console messages and a cursor on top of it21:46
woozyand then it crashed21:46
chrisccoulsonyeah, i just boot without splash now21:47
pochuseb128: oh I didn't notice it21:57
pochuseb128: will do, thanks21:58
pochuseb128: how's it going?21:58
baptistemm_seb128, hi! vte + gnome-terminal update sponsor request when you have time :)22:12
baptistemm_time to sleep, bye, good night for those living in my timezone22:17
seb128pochu, good thanks, what about you? we are in portland for a distro sprint this week22:24
pochuseb128: busy with exams but fine otherwise :)22:27
seb128pochu, oh, good luck with those ;-)22:29
pochuthank you!22:30
crimsunpitti: no sense in me pursuing the offlining of cpus: purportedly doing it consumes more power22:52
crimsunand really, linux would know to do the right thing with idle states22:52
rickspencer3oh didrocks ....23:09
didrocksyes rickspencer3?23:09
rickspencer3installing quickly-widgets doesn;t quite work23:09
didrockshum? let me try now that it's built23:09
rickspencer3because the quickly/__init__.py file conflicts with the existing one23:09
pitticrimsun: hm, interesting; thanks for the update23:10
didrocksoh __init__.py in quickly/ directory, right23:10
didrocksrickspencer3: one sec, fixing it23:10
bryce2pitti, here is our old patch:  http://pastebin.com/f484fa08923:47
pittibryce2: ah, thanks23:47

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