[00:00] * micahg doesn't know offhand [00:00] micahg, yes, it's for a firefor addon [00:00] but thanks to bdrung_we have an installer for addons now [00:00] directhex: Did you see the xul packgaing team mail on debian-devel@ recently? [00:01] RAOF, no. link? [00:01] Keybuk: haha, I agree but the lines are too long imho, won't you agree? :P [00:01] http://wiki.debian.org/mozilla-devscripts [00:01] hi directhex :) [00:01] evening seb128 [00:01] sebner, [00:01] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/02/msg00011.html === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:02] Keybuk: You're in a desert, walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down. You look down and see a tortoise, Scott. It's crawling toward you. You reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping. I mean ... you're not helping, Scott! Why is that? [00:02] * directhex retires mneptok [00:02] * sebner is scared [00:03] mneptok: because I crave tortoise soup [00:03] sebner: "the lines" ? [00:03] micahg, blurgh, xpi-ifying what i have is added work [00:03] mneptok: Have you stopped beating your wife? [00:03] sebner: I really don't know what about the graph you're asking me to comment on [00:03] it looks like a bootchart to me [00:03] directhex: an xpi is a zip file [00:03] of a hard-drive based machine [00:04] where on the first boot you took longer to log in than ureadahead bothered to wait [00:04] ion: Sushi. That's what my ex-wife called me - cold fish. [00:05] directhex: there's an example of building from source in the wiki page [00:06] actually, maybe it's not so bad... [00:07] bleh, not sure [00:08] Keybuk: 38 seconds are bothering me :P [00:09] sebner: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/bootcharts/tick-lucid-20100122-2.png .. [00:09] directhex: the ever shrinking rules file [00:10] micahg, for simple cases perhaps [00:10] pitti: on my bootcharts from february 1st too but I thought we are decreasing boot time instead of increasing it :P [00:10] when will be the next autosync run? [00:12] micahg, so delete all the ubufox Npp stuff? [00:13] directhex: I'm not sure what that is...which package? [00:13] directhex: i read xpi. do you work on xul extensions? [00:13] micahg, moon [00:14] ok, moon is not a xul extension - so not my field [00:15] bdrung_, so we're drawing a line between plugins & extensions? these rules are for extensions only? [00:16] yeah, this is for extensions, not plugins [00:16] directhex: yes. [00:16] * directhex has been wasting his time, then [00:16] directhex: did you read debian-devel ML? [00:16] so where should *plugins* be shoving themselves? [00:16] * micahg is looking directhex [00:18] directhex: /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins seems to be the place [00:18] micahg, firefox on karmic will load a plugin from /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins. on lucid it won't. hence the question [00:18] see above [00:19] sebner: well, part of your problem is that it's not auto-login [00:19] sebner: make it auto-login [00:19] wipe the ureadahead pack [00:19] then do two reboots [00:19] giving it about 30s to a minute after the first to settle and make the pack [00:20] is there a secure way (reasonably) to auto-login and lock the screensaver? [00:20] directhex: firefox on lucid doesn't use xulrunner [00:20] I'd love to boot and walk away and come back to a ready desktop [00:20] i see [00:20] in fact, the xulrunner-addons is explicitely denied in the apparmor profile [00:20] Keybuk: I'll give it a try. Btw, what's the goal now. 15-20 seconds right? [00:21] sebner: along those lines [00:21] oops [00:21] ignore my last statement [00:21] * micahg read it wrong [00:21] micahg: that is actually unrelated-- it is denied to prevent logging-- DAC wouldn [00:21] 't allow it anyway [00:21] and in debian, is /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins appropriate? [00:21] jdstrand_: yeah, I misread it [00:22] bdrung_: ^^ [00:22] cjwatson: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-user-dirs/+bug/516344 for your depressed edification [00:22] Ubuntu bug 516344 in xdg-user-dirs "prompt to rename homedir to subdir of homedir" [Undecided,New] [00:24] pitti: where to language pack bugs go? [scott was asking about a klingon desktop but there isn't a klingon (-tlh) langpack] [00:24] jdong: I’d like that, too. It would also be nice if the unlocking of the screensaver unlocked the Gnome keyring in the same session as well. [00:25] micahg: yes [00:26] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/ for both distros, then? right, that simplifies matters. [00:27] and what's an appropriate Depends: line to use, without the commonality of xulrunner? firefox|iceweasel|abrowser|somethingelse ? [00:27] lifeless: there needs to be a locale first; once there is, and some translations on LP, they'll be created automagically [00:28] directhex: i think we should provide tools for plugins, too. [00:28] lifeless, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam [00:29] directhex: you still need to build on xulrunner [00:29] Apparently, the colour of Klingon should be a deep purple [00:30] so technically, it still depends on xulrunner, but enhances firefox in Ubuntu [00:30] bdrung_, that could well be useful. although plugins can be somewhat unwieldy beasts, so don't go overboard in how much hand-holding you do. i'd settle for a variable signifying the system plugin dir plus a substvar for the odd thing here & there [00:30] that reminds me, I should talk to asac about that... [00:31] but ff on lucid doesn't use xulr... frankly, i'm totally lost now [00:31] bdrung_: maybe an install-plugin similar to install-xpi [00:31] isn't xulrunner being killed off for all releases? [00:32] ccheney: not entirely, just for firefox [00:32] ccheney, did i mention i was lost? ;) [00:32] micahg: ok [00:32] micahg: and dh_xul-ext needs to be adjusted on cloned to dh_xul-plugin (or something like this) [00:32] directhex: heh [00:32] ccheney: we're migrating what we can away from it [00:32] micahg: ah ok, i thought it was migrate what we can and kill everything else :) [00:32] but i am probably wrong [00:33] micahg: you are welcome tho write install-plugin [00:33] :) [00:33] bdrung_: is that an invitation for me to work on it ;) [00:33] you beat me to it bdrung_... [00:33] bdrung_: where should I file the bug? [00:34] micahg: it should go into mozilla-devscripts [00:34] i really really don't care about the specifics. i just want a symlink to usr/lib/moonlight/plugin/libmoonloader.so to be shoved in whatever location is used by mozilla-flavoured browsers, whatever they may be. that's all i want. with or without Xb-Npp-MimeType or other such nonsense, that's all i need. one symlink in the correct place. [00:34] and dependencies of some variety to make it actually work [00:35] meaning moonlight-plugin-core plus whatever else tastes good, like shlibs:depends and misc:depends and a browser of some variety [00:36] directhex: for the second part you want a equivalent to dh_xul-ext [00:36] yes, that'd be fine & dandy === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [00:37] pitti: do we have code to ask a user to install a particular package when an app runs, similar to how the codec stuff works? [00:37] pitti: i need to ask users to install java when they run OOo if they don't already have it [00:38] pitti: oh thats interesting; I'm making the locale for scott now. [00:38] ccheney, i don't know of a generic framework for that [00:38] bdrung_: it's on my list, but I don't know when I'll get to it [00:38] oops [00:39] bdrung_: bug 516350 [00:39] Launchpad bug 516350 in mozilla-devscripts "provide install-plugin similar to install-xpi" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/516350 [00:40] micahg: you may want to write a equivalent to dh_xul-ext [00:40] bdrung_: should I rename it to that [00:40] bdrung_: is it not 2 pieces of the same thing? [00:41] micahg: no. install-xpi installs the xpi file (extract + symlinks). dh_xul-ext evaluates ${xpi:*} [00:42] micahg: 2 scripts for the same thing [00:42] bdrung_: I think I'll call the bug provide plugin install assistance and explain the in description [00:42] sound good [00:42] done [00:43] pitti: langpack-locales - does that control what langpacks are made? [00:43] lifeless: indirectly [00:43] /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED has the list of available locales [00:44] right [00:44] langpack-locales ships that file, and the locales [00:44] ah [00:44] and langpack-o-matic builds packages for locales which are in SUPPORTED [00:44] pitti: thats not quite right [00:44] why not? [00:44] pitti: la_AU.UTF-8 is in my SUPPORTED file, and not in the package [00:45] /usr/share/i18n/locales/la_AU [00:45] lifeless: ^ it was you who contributed that :) [00:45] I know [00:45] but I've just done apt-get source langpack-locales [00:46] and it doesn't have la_AU in the source package so I'm checking my facts [00:46] lifeless: it's in debian/patches [00:46] (it's still not accepted upstream) [00:46] yeah [00:46] or should I rather say "refused" [00:46] so we keep it as a patch [00:46] ok, well I'll add klingon the same way [00:47] I wish I had time to do a proper orthogonal language separate from location system [00:47] Qapla' [00:48] pitti: Won't Klingon hit the "Enough isn't translated, so no langpacks for joo" [00:48] StevenK: no, we have plenty of scarcely translated langpacks [00:50] also klingon folk are insane [00:50] lifeless, they're just overly exuberant [00:59] dpm: so why did you link that wiki page to me? [01:01] lifeless, I was complementing pitti's answer to your question on Klingon translations. You need to create an Ubuntu Klingon team following that process to be able to translate Klingon in Launchpad [01:06] dpm, klingon needs more vocab first though, surely? i mean, eskimos have 50 words for snow, klingons have 50 words for "disembowel" [01:06] and whilst "disembowel" might work as a replacement for "cut", i'm not sure where else it fits [01:08] directhex: but they don't have a word for fridge! :P [01:14] dpm: I have no interest in translating it ;) [01:15] dpm: I'm doing a favour for Keybuk [01:15] np, just trying to be helpful :) [01:15] kk:) [01:16] directhex: you could translate fridge pretty easily [01:16] "be cold box" [01:17] tep bImeHwI or something [01:17] o_o [01:17] "box for the purposes of being cold" :p [01:18] nerd! [01:18] heh [01:18] Klingon has a sufficiently large vocab that entire books have been translated into it, and a fairly flexible one that it allows word creation by description [01:20] hmm, I've forgotten how to turn a locale on [01:21] Keybuk: And words invented due to cultural references [01:23] lifeless: sudo locale-gen xx_YY.UTF-8 [01:23] lifeless: and then export LANG=xx_YY.UTF-8 [01:24] cjwatson: im in the middle of writing an apport hook for openssh-server do you want to review it after can i just upload it when Im done writing it? [01:24] shame unicode doesn't formally include klingon [01:25] pitti: actuall I needed to edit /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local [01:25] pitti: so that it stays up to date when the locales package is refreshed [01:25] anyhow [01:25] tlh_GB.UTF-8... done [01:25] Keybuk: ^ [01:25] lifeless: Where GB is effectively, well, Earth? [01:26] StevenK: its for Keybuk, so I've used GB layout [01:26] lifeless: Does it work, though? :-) [01:27] StevenK: 'meh' [01:28] barring the confusing rules regarding plugin packaging in lucid, the lack of adequate support for firefox 3.6, the lack of a debian/copyright file, and a debian/rules which doesn't work twice in a row, i have a preliminary package for moonlight 2.0. i feel i should sleep now [01:29] seb128, ^^ [01:30] directhex, waouh, good work ;-) [01:31] pitti: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~lifeless/ubuntu/lucid/langpack-locales/bug-516359/+merge/18496 [01:31] seb128, upstream have promised me a new release within a couple of weeks which will resolve at least one of those issues. as well as the current need to +dfsg some of the tarballs which i've been ignoring === bryce_ is now known as bryce2 [01:39] lamont, is that normal that amd64 has only 2 buildds? [01:41] seb128: some days [01:41] and yes [01:41] i386 is the workhorse that does all, so it has more [01:41] hum, ok [01:41] I guess those changes will be for tomorrow then [01:42] it's annoying to have things blocked for over 10 hours as soon as gcc or openoffice get uploaded [01:42] lamont, thanks [01:46] seb128: yes, it is. [01:46] I know where we can find our favorite german..... [01:47] lamont, yeah, me too [01:47] seb128: yeah - but I can actually throw things at him... [01:48] oh, please do ;-) [01:49] seb128: Yes, I'm blocked for an armel CD build for 28 hours because of OO.o [01:50] StevenK, that's a different issue [01:50] StevenK, you have 7 buildds, which means it at least doesn't block everything else [01:50] seb128: Sure, but while we're complaining about OO.o and gcc :-P [01:50] ;-) [01:55] geser: do you have a magic script for these move to universe bugs or are you doing it all manually? [01:57] zulI'd like to review it [02:15] pitti: ping [02:16] lifeless: pong [02:16] hey, klingon all gtg :) - pushing the second patch in a second [02:16] been interrupted ;> [02:17] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~lifeless/ubuntu/lucid/langpack-locales/bug-516359/+merge/18496 is the langpack one [02:17] lifeless: ++territory "Great Britain" [02:17] shouldn't that be "Kronos"? :=) [02:17] pitti: no :P [02:17] pitti: its GB phone # layout etc [02:21] lifeless: no translated weekdays? :) [02:21] patches accepted :) [02:21] how many weekdays does klingon have? [02:22] no idea [02:22] anyway, uploading now :) [02:23] pitti: lp:~lifeless/ubuntu/lucid/libx11/bug-516359 is the second [02:23] pushed [02:24] lifeless: nice, it's already in langpack-o-matic's maps/languages [02:25] pitti: It's also already in Rosetta [02:29] lifeless: uploaded [02:30] DktrKranz: do you have an opinion on bug 508013 ? [02:30] Launchpad bug 508013 in gpsd "Sync gpsd 2.90.1~svn6819-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/508013 [02:41] pitti: weet, thanks [02:47] * Dante_J greets the room [02:49] Under Lucid Alpha 2 with Firefox 3.6, noscript in the repo is not compatible with Firefox, and noscript supplied via Mozilla locks everything - caps light won't even toggle. [02:49] This is on a T30 Laptop with a radeon graphics card. [02:54] IIRC noscript is waiting for xul* naming update [04:50] hi [04:55] I'm trying to install a .deb package, however it told me that I already had a package in use (because I pressed Ctrl+C on "sudo apt-get install patch"). So I gave up & just rebooted. Still getting the error when trying to install the .deb package, any ideas? [04:59] Linux-CLI: Can you give the exact error message? [05:09] I'm trying to install a .deb package, however it told me that I already had a package in use (because I pressed Ctrl+C on "sudo apt-get install patch"). So I gave up & just rebooted. Still getting the error when trying to install the .deb package, any ideas? [05:09] Do we use the Debian maintainers guide to create .deb packages for Ubuntu? [05:10] Yes. [05:10] Thanks [05:10] The answer to your first question is likely to be “get dpkg to configure the partially-installed package by calling 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'” [05:11] Yeah it was, sorry [05:11] lol [05:11] It took me 5 minutes to download fakeroot before [06:00] what sort of kernel development happens specifically for Ubuntu? [06:01] Mad_Gouki: the async population, hardware enablement (OEM), among others [06:02] async rootfs * [06:02] interesting [06:02] do most distros have kernel developers, and do the changes get folded back into the main kernel from time to time? [06:03] the corporate sponsored ones do tend to have them, yes [06:03] and at least of ubuntu, red hat, and suse.... yeah, those get submitted upstream [06:03] very cool [06:03] the merge policies tend to be governed by each team, but the general approach is to work directly in upstream as much as possible [07:00] any archive admins about? I was wondering if someone could clear ubiquity from binary new so that it can be included on the live cds for tomorrow in time? [07:17] hi folks, why are redland-utils and raptor-utils in the default install? [07:20] sabdfl: openoffice.org-core Depends: librdf0 Depends: redland-utils; librdf0 Depends: libraptor1 Depends: raptor-utils [07:21] sorry, Recommends: for the last step in each of those chains, not Depends: [07:22] superm1: done [07:22] thanks [07:23] cjwatson: i have oo.o-core 1:3.2.0~rc4-1ubuntu1, which appears not to [07:24] * cjwatson peers [07:26] sabdfl: ah, in that case the answer is that it is no longer in the default installation :-) I've confirmed this from the current override files [07:26] doh [07:26] so much changes so quickly round here :-) [07:26] (I hadn't updated since this afternoon ...) [07:27] it may or may not fall out automatically due to apt-get autoremove; I'm not sure exactly how sensitive that is [07:27] it looks like it will stay in main for some time due to KDE bits and pieces [07:29] specifically (at least) soprano-daemon) [07:39] Riddell: I checked them manually === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:06] dang, appears to have missed the publisher cycle in time, still got the old ubiquity in the livefs :( [08:23] Hi. I would like to know if anyone is working on updating evolution-data-server in lucid. I want to upload latest version of evolution-mapi which depends on e-d-s 2.29.x. [09:03] slytherin, if I recall correctly, Lucid sticks with Evolution 2.28 [09:53] strycore: Where was this discussed? And what is the reason? [10:29] slytherin, sorry I can't find where it has been discussed but I remember seeing that on IRC [10:30] hmm, I trust a discussion on mailing list than IRC discussion about such a bug decision. [10:37] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/01/20/%23ubuntu-desktop.txt [10:37] at 20:07 [10:39] hmm, I wonder when and why was this decided. === xomas_ is now known as xomas === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === xomas is now known as xomas_ === xomas_ is now known as xomas === yofel_ is now known as yofel === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:16] hey, can anybody take a quick look into bug #514299 please? [16:16] Launchpad bug 514299 in ia32-libs "ia32-libs don't ship 32-bit libdrm_radeon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514299 === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [16:34] slangasek: Hi [16:35] slangasek: Are you aware of any source packages in Debian that have component orig tarballs at the moment, or are bz2 tarballs the main issue when syncing ? [16:36] aiui the sync script is hardcoded to expect orig.tar.gz at the minute [16:36] jelmer: wgrant was looking at it AFAIK [16:38] Laney: I'm working on the v3 support for the sync script at the moment, but the bug mainly talks about bz2 support. [16:56] james_w, it looks to me like 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu/python-boto' is out of sync with the archive, could you kick it ? [17:01] pitti: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~lifeless/ubuntu/lucid/libx11/bug-516359/+merge/18538 [17:02] bryceh: ^ may interest you too [17:12] lifeless, " * Add klingon language definition." is that a patch pulled from upstream I hope? [17:12] hahaha [17:13] superm1: You tell funny jokes ... [17:13] sounds SRU-worthy! [17:13] jelmer: bz2 tarballs are the only issue I can recall running into [17:14] slangasek, could you re-roll daily-live from today? tried to get the new ubiquity in in time, but the publisher was a little late === Nafallo is now known as 30BAAADYI [17:22] superm1: "daily-live" - mythbuntu or ubuntu? [17:22] slangasek, ubuntu [17:22] superm1: ok, running [17:23] slangasek, thanks [17:43] pitti: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~lifeless/ubuntu/lucid/libx11/bug-516359/+merge/18538 is the new patch [17:52] slangasek: do you own nvidia hardware? Would you like to see what plymouth looks like on my nvidia laptop (including freeze every second boot)? [17:53] mdeslaur: *raises hand, I get that too. [17:54] mdeslaur: Although mine is a little worse than that. Atm I can't boot the -12 kernel at all, either with plymouth or without/recovery mode. [17:56] Most of us have to use the Alt+SysRq+k to get a gdm screen in the -12 kernel [17:57] * TheMuso can never remember what sysrk is... Please remind me. :) as in what key it is. [17:57] printscreen [17:57] ah ok thanks. [18:19] I have a question about this bug: [18:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/groundcontrol/+bug/516651 [18:19] Ubuntu bug 516651 in groundcontrol "necessary to translate debug output ?" [Low,Confirmed] [18:19] I want to know what the best thing to do about translating debug messages === doctormo_ is now known as doctormo [18:20] cjwatson: Should we remove the lpia kernel section in the platform.lucid installer seed? [18:27] StevenK: feel free === doctormo_ is now known as doctormo [18:37] is lock screen broken for anyone else today? [18:38] ccheney: I've heard a couple reports. `gnome-screensaver -l` seems to be the workaround. Go chase dbus. [18:38] somebody mentioned gnome-screensaver? [18:38] kees: Just curious, is the fortification stuff in our toolchain upstream? [18:38] heh, i bet the new autostart delay causes it to race with the indicator-session applet [18:38] ccheney - can you not lock the screen from there? [18:38] chrisccoulson: Seems to be a bug in how the notification applet calls it right now. g-s itself seems fine. [18:39] StevenK: the glibc goo that responds to setting -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 is in upstream glibc, yes. [18:39] persia - right, i've noticed this before. if the indicator starts before gnome-screensaver, then it doesn't work [18:39] StevenK: our compiler sets -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 by default. that is not in the upstream compiler. [18:39] and we just changed gnome-screensaver to not start for 5 seconds [18:39] so, that's an indicator bug [18:39] ah ok [18:40] i tried locking by the power button in the top right of the screen in lucid [18:40] it does nothing though :-\ [18:40] chrisccoulson: so i think that is the applet you are talking about? [18:40] ccheney - yeah, it's broken because of my change to gnome-screensaver to delay starting it [18:40] yeah, thats the applet i'm talking about [18:40] * ccheney larts chrisccoulson for breaking stuff ;-) [18:41] heh, yeah, that's my fault :P === cr3_ is now known as cr3 [18:43] kenvandine: did you guys see a bug about the indicators that rhythmbox is not shown although it's running (up-to-date lucid)? [18:45] dholbach, i haven't seen that [18:46] kenvandine: which source package should I report a bug on and what kind of info do you need? [18:46] rhythmbox [18:47] the patch is to a plugin that is included [18:47] charlie-tca: sorry, who's "most of us"? The two folks who have laptops I've looked at haven't needed to Alt+SysRq+K anything [18:47] Heyo, anyone around that works with plymouth? Got a patch for it to work with the linux-backports-modules-nouveau kernel module that is being worked on now and is not really upstream material -- http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/0001-src-plugins-renderers-drm-plugin.c-Add-check-for-lbm.patch [18:47] Sorry, I had two or three in #ubuntu+1 with this issue [18:48] It seems to be the way around the garbled gdm screen that appears after update to the -12 kernel in lucid [18:53] kenvandine: awesome, will do [18:53] dholbach, thx [19:01] kenvandine: bug 516685 [19:01] Launchpad bug 516685 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox is running, but no indicator is shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/516685 [19:02] james_w: around? [19:04] cjwatson: I'm going to try a sync of a package that is quilt 3.0 and orig.tar.bz2, I'll let you know if it goes bang [19:05] cjwatson: Looks fine ... [19:05] dholbach, thx [19:05] no worries [19:18] pitti: ping :P [19:20] lifeless: hi; will get to the merge, still debugging pm-utils [19:21] kk [19:21] I can get someone else to do it if you like [19:22] sure, go ahead [19:25] DktrKranz, hi [19:26] DktrKranz, do you think you could get the change from bug #495326 in debian? [19:26] Launchpad bug 495326 in lazr.restfulclient "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'self_link'" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/495326 [19:26] DktrKranz, we need it in lucid and since the package is in sync right now... [19:26] seb128: That looks like the wrong number ... [19:27] StevenK, why? [19:28] seb128: There's no Debian task, and I didn't think lazr.restfulclient was in Debian [19:29] StevenK, well the fix is upstream now so there is no real reason to add a debian task there [19:29] and it is in debian and in sync right now [19:34] StevenK: oh, did somebody fix soyuz? [19:35] cjwatson: It seems so, it got synced correctly, and went through source and binary NEW easily [19:35] But let's see if the publisher goes BANG [19:36] seb128: hi! I think I can easily cherrypick and upload it. I don't have main upload privileges, may I ping you so you can eventually sync it? [19:37] DktrKranz, yes, I was going to upload to lucid but I figured it would be better to get it in debian [19:37] DktrKranz, thanks [19:37] DktrKranz, I will sync when it's uploaded to debian [19:38] seb128: I don't think I beat dinstall, so you have to sync from incoming. Is that still possible? [19:38] DktrKranz, yes [19:38] thanks [19:38] ok then [19:45] cjwatson: ping [19:46] kees: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pm-utils/tree/src/import-fdi-quirkdb.in#n75 [19:47] zul: yes? (please include content with pings :-) ) [19:47] pitti, can you help Stew Ellis on bug 447961? He has problems installing CUPS from -proposed. [19:47] Launchpad bug 447961 in ttf-freefont "Printer autoconfigured, but LPR prints with to wide font/cpi setting" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/447961 [19:48] cjwatson: sorry im going to adding an apport hook to openssh do you want to review it first or should I just upload it [19:48] zul: I answered yesterday - I'd like to review it, please [19:48] cjwatson: ah ok i didnt see it yesterday ;) [19:49] slangasek: Is yada still trying to enter main? I have this feeling I got 70% through a yada-repackage [19:49] zul: feel free to commit it to lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/lucid/openssh/lucid though [19:49] zul: is there some urgent need for it? :-) openssh doesn't get many crash reports [19:49] cjwatson: no urgency its just apart of the server-lucid-apport-hooks spec [19:50] zul: ah, ok [19:50] the spec is missing /etc/ssh/ssh_config, which is useful for client bugs [19:51] I imagine the hook should be binary-package-specific if possible [19:51] cjwatson: will do [19:53] StevenK: see components-mismatches? I don't know if it's still trying to get back [19:57] zul: Hi, in case you didn't notice: your php5 upload depwaits on libmcrypt-dev, looks like it slipped though in the merge [19:58] geser: thanks ill take a look [20:09] slangasek: No yada, so I guess we are safe :-) [20:09] Riddell: what's happening with koffice-l10n? It's removed in Debian, and ISTR hearing that was specific to old koffice and should also eventually be removed for us - or should it be sync-blacklisted instead? [20:11] slangasek: we probably want to sync it from debian experimental [20:11] our koffice update is blocked on MIRs currently [20:12] hmm, when is koffice-l10n going to re-enter unstable then? [20:12] I don't know I'm afraid [20:12] doh [20:12] Riddell: How many MIRs? [20:12] Piles [20:13] StevenK: 6 [20:13] 6 is not piles [20:13] * ScottK thought he'd take longer to answer so the phear would build. [20:14] * StevenK has submitted and argued for a large number of MIRs [20:14] it's enough to stop it progressing anyway [20:15] we could really do with more main inclusion reviewers [20:19] StevenK: I know the feeling. IIRC I had to do 22 or some similar number to get spamassassin in Main. [20:24] asac, lool: got any MIR time schedule in the near future for those koffices ones you have assigned? [20:28] pitti: james_w is uploading it [20:34] ccheney, doko, would you have a few minutes after lunch to discuss OO.o translations? [20:35] keybuk: Please see my last comment in LP #506727. [20:35]