[00:35] Hm, if we ever get a supybot in this channel, I bet the todo list plugin would be great for meeting agendas [00:59] Gah, I have yet to write a profile page for my account on the Ubuntu Wiki [01:11] me too. I think I started to, but never finished it [01:59] Just finished World of Goo [01:59] <_diablo> Takyoji, how was it? I've only played the demo, but I enjoyed that [02:00] The music is beautiful; the story is interesting/random (thus considerably a light laugh occasionally as well), and it's actually not too hard [02:01] <_diablo> yeah, if it weren't proprietary, I'd be all over it [02:01] There's also the alternate realm where you can just go ahead and build various things with the Goo as well [02:02] <_diablo> Takyoji, yeah, I tried that, but it didn't like my interwebs connection for sharing [02:02] ahh [02:06] <_diablo> do you know where a good place would be to learn about connecting to a wireless network via CLI would be? [02:06] <_diablo> the ones that I've tried haven't really worked [02:06] I can give you a quick primer [02:07] I don't know why there's no good CLI interface to NetworkManager, I'm gonna have to get around to writing one someday. But doing it by hand just takes a few commands, really [02:09] <_diablo> mr_steve, I tried the ifconfig, iwlist, iwconfig, dhclient approach, but it didn't work. I used the approach here: http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/ [02:09] <_diablo> I have a broadcom card and am using the STA driver in case that matters [02:11] _diablo, was there any security on the network you were trying to connect to? [02:11] <_diablo> mr_steve, yes. I tried it with wpa, and obviously I would need to figure out wpa-supplicant, so I changed it to wep, but that didn't work either [02:12] okay, yeah that article you linked to lies about wpa, but you know that already. [02:12] <_diablo> mr_steve, #fedora just recommended I use cnetworkmanager [02:12] <_diablo> mr_steve, yeah, I know :) [02:12] There is one thing missing from that guide that I seem to always have to do [02:13] <_diablo> what's that? [02:13] After doing the iwconfig wlan0 essid "whatever", I usually seem to need to do iwconfig wlan0 ap auto before it will associate [02:14] <_diablo> hmmmm [02:14] <_diablo> okay, I'll add that to my list and try it [02:14] seems at least with some drivers setting the essid just tells the card which network it should be a part of, but ap needs to be set or auto for it to actually connect to an individual ap [02:15] since although it's a rare setup, there can be more than on BSSID for a given ESSID. Like for roaming between APs [02:20] Thanks for reminding me about cnetworkmanager, too. It's not in the repos, I should try and roll up a .deb over the weekend [02:26] ah it's written in python. pythoncentral fun, yay. I'll probably have a .deb in my PPA soonish [02:27] <_diablo> it's in the fedora repos ;) [02:28] Yup. Heh, I keep forgetting you're not an ubuntuholic like I am :) [02:29] <_diablo> not at all. ubuntu annoys me more often than I enjoy it. but I still give it to people like the cig companies do with their cigarettes. [02:30] haha, nice. [02:31] <_diablo> brb, I'm gonna try ratpoison wireless [02:31] <_diablo> mr_steve, does 128 vs 64 WEP matter? [02:32] <_diablo> for iwconfig I mean [02:40] _diablo, not sure. I think iwconfig figures it out based on the key length. Are you providing the key as hexadecimal digits? [02:41] <_diablo> mr_steve, I was going to use the s: switch [02:42] <_diablo> brb, going to try this for real now [02:57] Anyone know of FreeNX? [03:14] Takyoji, I've heard of, but never used it. Supposed to be an X server for Win32, innit? [03:25] well folks if anyone's interested there's now a package for cnetworkmanager in my PPA. I'm ~smcgrath23 on launchpad. [03:25] I've been playing with it a bit and it seems to be working, and pretty decent to use [03:33] I take it that you packaged it? [03:38] Takyoji, yup. I'm gonna try to clean it up a little more and get it into the repos, since there's already a needs-packaging bug for it [03:38] ahh [03:49] Takyoji: So you're volunteering to write up minutes, right? :) [03:50] I may be willing to in fact [04:11] Is there some form of a list or a method to find projects that need a package maintainer? [04:11] <_diablo> Takyoji, not that I know of, sorry, I'd ask on #ubuntu [04:24] The better place to ask would be the MOTU mailing list. [04:24] <_diablo> or that [04:27] Mark of the Unicorn? :D [04:27] Someone should tweak the wiki page for MOTU [04:27] (on Wikipedia) [04:30] otherwise I know what you mean; Masters of the Universe [04:59] Leaving for the night [05:00] <_diablo> nn === jenkinbr is now known as Guest84172 [18:00] tonyyarusso, is it possible for us to get a project cloak on freenode? Dunno if freenode actually considers us a project? [19:15] * mr_steve is updating the netbook to lucid... [20:05] i think freenode would be happy to do that [20:06] mr_steve: [20:07] yeah, they probably would. There's not really too much point to it, but hey, why not? [21:38] I think I just had an Ubuntu Hour with my barber. [21:40] <_diablo> haha, really? were you convincing? [21:55] _diablo: I...think so, yeah [21:55] I wasn't really trying to convince, I just asked him questions he had about it [21:55] "why is it safer," things like that [21:56] <_diablo> that's good [21:56] <_diablo> and those kinds of relaxed conversations are what we need [21:56] <_diablo> often just saying the word is 50% of the battle. get it in their heads so when they hear it again, they're more receptive [22:01] he asked my major, and it sort of went from there [22:01] we covered a broad range of topics [22:01] from mobile phones and their trends, how silly the ipad is, [22:02] <_diablo> lol [22:05] bah, what was the last message? [22:06] I'm trying to fix my irssi [22:06] <_diablo> he asked my major, and it sort of went from there [22:06] <_diablo> we covered a broad range of topics [22:06] <_diablo> from mobile phones and their trends, how silly the ipad is, [22:06] <_diablo> <_diablo> lol [22:06] <_diablo> * h00k has quit (Quit: breaking things) [22:06] <_diablo> * h00k (~anthonyrh@unaffiliated/h00k) has joined #ubuntu-us-mn [22:06] <_diablo> bah, what was the last message? [22:06] <_diablo> I'm trying to fix my irssi [22:06] <_diablo> brb [22:07] hah, okay., [22:09] Woo, nobody's acknowledging my existence on #ubuntu-motu [22:09] With a total of 216 users [22:12] (I asked a question and got no answer on that channel; while others are blabbing) [22:12] <_diablo> back [22:13] <_diablo> Takyoji, can you repeat? I didn't see your question [22:15] Someone just answered it now; I was asking of reasonable materials for getting involved with packaging [22:15] <_diablo> ah [22:17] Otherwise I'm glad to see conversation going on in this channel [22:35] Hey h00k, do you happen to have any idea why my 'unaffiliated' cloak has a bunch of crap at the end and yours doesn't? [22:35] 16:35 mr_steve [22:35] good question [22:35] I have no idea, actually [22:35] check #freenode [22:36] yeah I'll have to bug the staff again I guess. Would you mind checking my WHOIS and seeing if it's at least hiding my hostname? It still shows when I WHOIS myself [22:37] <_diablo> * [mr_steve] (steve@unaffiliated/mr-steve/x-2535065): Steve McGrath [22:37] <_diablo> * [mr_steve] #ubuntu-us-mn [22:37] <_diablo> * [mr_steve] hubbard.freenode.net :Pittsburgh, PA, US [22:38] ah thanks _diablo [22:38] 16:35 mr_steve [22:38] 16:35 ircname : Steve McGrath [22:38] 16:35 channels : #ubuntu-us-mn [22:38] 16:35 server : hubbard.freenode.net [Pittsburgh, PA, US] [22:38] 16:35 account : mr_steve [22:38] 16:35 End of WHOIS [22:38] yeah, that's what I have [22:41] Well I'm glad the cloak's working, even if it looks a little funky [22:41] I was notcing a correlation between snort alerts on my firewall and the times spent hanging out in certain channels... [22:55] aha. my cloak has the random numbers at the end because of the underscore in my nick. Guess I either gotta live with it or change my account name. Meh. [23:09] Didn't know there was an Ubuntu Pastebin [23:15] pastebin.ubuntu.com [23:17] :/ i cant find my #ubuntu tab, someone say my nick in there [23:19] n/m i got it [23:26] That's right; I have yet to install Lucid Lynx yet [23:26] of which I'll hopefully get done tonight [23:26] I just finished setting up a dualboot on my lappy today [23:27] NYou going to install that on a production box or a devel machine? [23:28] My primary desktop [23:28] I'll be sure that my work and so forth is properly backed up and so forth; in case if anything goes wrong [23:30] Dang, Id never install Alpha or B eta on a primary box. [23:31] Yeah, Remastersys works well for that. [23:39] :( apt-get remove doestn actuallly remove the files for me [23:39] and trying again it says the pacakges are removed, but they're still htere.. gigs in /usr/share/games [23:39] i guess i can manually remove them, but i'm pretty sure apt-get was supposed to [23:40] Which game(s)? [23:41] --purge [23:41] autoremove [23:41] one of thse should do the trick