=== dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:32] Debian maintainer of Virtuoso said that starts working on new release on next week [00:33] Can we drop qt-creator transitional package? [00:34] depends if it's needed for hardy upgrades [00:34] was qt-creator used in hardy? [00:34] It was introduced in jaunty [00:34] Is jaunty -> lucid not supported? [00:35] qt-creator it was added in Karmic I think [00:35] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/1.1.0-1ubuntu1 [00:36] Transition package was added in karmic, but there was a prior package in jaunty. [00:36] (rmadison qt-creator) [00:36] oh, right [00:46] it's not needed then, we don't support jaunty -> lucid === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:21] hmm, qt on arm finally failed after 23 hours [01:24] :( [01:32] If anyone is running lucid, there's new stuff in pbuilder-dist and mk-sbuild-lv that would allow testing that on amd64 or i386 (although it probably still takes 23 hours). [01:33] persia: thanks for da info [01:34] persia: useful, thanks. [01:40] >ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org "ls stable/4.4.0" [01:40] ls: cannot access stable/4.4.0: No such file or directory [01:40] guess dirk missed the deadline [01:43] no tag here for the moment http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/ [04:16] I'm disappointed, getting up so early just to work on KDE and I still do not see them on ktown :< [04:16] * Quintasan goes back to bed [04:17] don't fear, they'll appear as soon as you lose Internet connectivity [04:24] Quintasan: nite .. :) [07:40] * Lure notices that lucid archive is in flux, no testbuild of digikam 1.1 possible :-( [08:35] hmm [08:35] Branch'd but not tag'd [08:41] I'm trying to create a javascript plasmoid and i get the following error "Could not open the js package required for Hello ... Widget" [08:42] And im not sure which to install [08:43] crimsun: you need bindings and they won't probably work until 4.4 (few hours) [08:43] crimsun: sorr was meant for erinaceus_ [11:28] hey sorry to bother you but is there an ETA for kde4.4rc3 in the beta ppa? [11:44] RiotingPacifist: when it gets there :D (no, I dont really know, but I would guess not too far from now) [11:45] hm, wasn't RC3 more a test for the tarballs? Since 4.4.0 has been tagged I wouldn't loose too much energy on that [11:47] could someone on lucid do "apt-cache policy libqt4-dev" and tell me the version please? [11:50] is kubuntu doing anything about settings migration? Because otherwise there will be a lot of problems when people run lucid for the first time. [11:51] RiotingPacifist: they usually do for the upgrade afaik [11:51] jussi01: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libqt4-dev says 4.6.1-1ubuntu2, but I don't actually have lucid installed [12:09] !batcave [12:09] hmm [12:09] I'm definiately not seeing things [12:10] !ninjas [12:10] Help! apachelogger, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, Lex79, Quintasan, neversfelde, maco, rgreening [12:11] I belive I'm doing it wrong but to hell with it [12:13] o.O === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [12:18] !bot [12:18] Hi! I'm #kubuntu-devel's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [12:19] JontheEchidna: ping [12:21] Quintasan: about to go, actually [12:21] JontheEchidna: okay, just one question, against what version shall I build now? [12:21] KDE ofc [12:22] for what? [12:22] 4.4 is on ktown [12:23] then you should build against 4.4? [12:23] oh, wait, libs first [12:23] -_- [12:23] I just love leaving screen and forgetting about it [12:24] :D [12:24] bbl [12:38] hrm, is qt 4.6.1 going to make it into ppa (or is it already) soon? [14:07] jussi01: 4.6.1 is in lucid repositary [14:07] freeflying: yup. I want it for karmic :) === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:15] Since Kivio is discontinued in KOffice2, is there some tool to convert .flw into something usable? [16:16] Riddell: ping [16:16] dont think he'll be online for another hour or so [16:16] k, thanks [16:16] buncha canonical people went to portland so his timezone's all screwed [16:53] morning dantti [16:53] Riddell: morning [16:55] Riddell: have you tested the password capabilities in printer-applet? [16:55] cause if i want to cancel a job that is not mine my process must run as root since it does not authenticate [16:55] dantti: I have not [16:56] I'm thinking on using policykit for this [16:56] and as you have not tested that i guess this might be the only way.. [17:01] dantti: it would seem the most sensible way [17:02] Riddell: yep, but one thing is not very clear, how can it authenticate if the cups server is a remote one... [17:04] dantti: mm, well then it would have to do some cups authentication thing [17:06] Riddell: yep this is a trick part, well I think i'll focus on creating the needed functions then I'll do this.. [17:07] Riddell: yesterday I could move a job from one printer to another :D [17:09] ooh [17:11] Hoorah. Virtuoso 6.0.1 is out [17:14] and making many packagers unhappy [17:29] 6.1.0 even :) [18:01] Just did an update on lucid. QT 4.6.1 KDE Devel Platform 4.3.98, but kwin at 4.3.95? [18:03] binarylooks: are you asking a question? [18:04] Riddell: Sorry, I guess i forgot the question part: Is it known? [18:06] Probably packaging is still ongoing. I'll be patient and recheck tomorrow [18:06] it is, needs new dbusmenu to be fixed which is due in my inbox any minute [18:07] Ok, sorry for the noise [18:07] oh noise if all good, it means we can guilt trip you into helping to packaging things :) [18:07] JontheEchidna: can you upload kdenlive? https://edge.launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging/+packages [18:07] thanks [18:08] Lex79: yup, will do it in a bit [18:11] Lex79: should I be worried about the amd64 build failure in your ppa? [18:11] JontheEchidna: I don't think, dependency problem [18:11] kk [18:12] I uploaded to my ppa when kdelibs was not build yet === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [19:05] mode -t === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: 4.4 packaging in progress, ping the ninjas if you want to help | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: merges.ubuntu.com or http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html (MoM fixed) [19:05] that's better [19:41] "Xorg invoked oom-killer" hmm, that's not good is it? [19:42] Riddell: no, that clearly means that ram has run out [19:42] Riddell: and I have that by simply having browser open and launching dpkg (: [19:48] Tonio__: this looks interesting http://www.sflphone.org [19:49] * Quintasan is back [19:52] hi Quintasan, ninjas skills all set? [19:53] Riddell: yup, I have uploaded libs and runtime, neversfelde is working on workspace and we should be ready soon [19:53] Riddell: very nice indeed, thanks for the link :) [19:53] * Tonio__ is having a look [19:53] I hope we will :) [19:55] !!!!!!!!! [19:55] http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10447420-17.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 [19:55] i came [19:56] sorry, that last bit was a bit inappropriate [19:56] but seriously. SONIC 4 [19:56] JontheEchidna: ya kiddin, right? [19:56] dead fscking serious [19:56] @_@ [19:57] now that takes me back [19:57] * Quintasan borrows PS3 from his best friend [19:57] Sega Megadrives were all the rage for people who cared about computer games when I was 10 [19:57] http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/3/30010/1139490-lavareefdeathegg_super.jpg <- this was the most epic boss room of all time [19:58] nostalgia attack [19:58] :3 [19:58] Tm_T: if the browser is firefox, im not surprised [19:58] inside a volcano with the death egg lodged in the ceiling [19:58] Tm_T: apparently ubuntu karmic in a 256mb-ram vm will oom if you start firefox [19:58] the possibilities with newer hardware make me giddy [20:02] man I want a better connection [20:02] I would do all the packages but my upload speed stops me [20:04] Quintasan: you can use my home server if you want [20:05] hmm, I can sign dsc and changes and download the tarball there and it would be all good [20:06] there's ways to do remote signing [20:06] Really? How? [20:07] don't remember [20:08] debsign -r [20:08] or debrsign for the opposite way [20:11] hnrgh [20:11] disconnected :< [20:14] 20:08 < Riddell> debsign -r [20:14] 20:08 < Riddell> or debrsign for the opposite way === Quintasan1 is now known as Quintasan [20:19] Riddell: is that "Depends: libdbusmenu-qt0" correct for libdbusmenu-qt-dev in the new libdbusmenu-qt package? [20:20] should be "Depends: libdbusmenu-qt1", or not? [20:20] maco: I have only 256 MiB ram here [20:21] neversfelde: fooey [20:21] fixing [20:21] okular-dev is from kdepim? [20:21] maco: problem is, for example when installing package dpkg hogs easily 100+ MiB ram (: [20:21] Quintasan: kdegraphics [20:22] Tm_T: criminey [20:22] I think [20:22] Tm_T: see i think the little envelopes withthe cds that say 256mb minimum ram are lying. its more like 512 [20:22] heck, kubuntu jaunty or karmic on 2GiB ram is all swap-thrash-tasti [20:22] *swap-thrash-tastic [20:23] * maco <3 the 4GiB upgrade [20:23] i'm using 1.8GiB right now on firefox, kontact, quassel, and 1 terminator window [20:23] hmm it's graphics actually [20:24] maco: heh, I can run KDE4 with this just fine, as long as I avoid dpkg :p [20:24] sure swap is used, but that's not bad thing itself [20:24] Tm_T: check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/367938/ [20:25] maco: aww, nice [20:35] LOL [20:37] Riddell: funny, it's our main competitor in canada here that develops this :) [20:38] Riddell: the kde client isn't packaged though... I'm packaging this all on my ppa [20:49] Riddell: Uploaded. If I did not screw up it should be soon in PPA :) [20:55] ScottK: python-qt3 updated, your wife will have her mnemosyne back. I moved it to universe [20:55] Riddell: Thanks. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [21:25] neversfelde: kdebase-workspace still in progress? [21:25] Lex79: sure, it builds atm. 41 % [21:25] k [21:26] I had to build libdbusmenu-qt1 myself before, so sorry for the delay [21:26] no problem [21:26] Lex79: lol backporting already? :D [21:26] yes [21:27] * Quintasan hands Lex79, neversfelde and himself cookies [21:27] hmm [21:27] * Quintasan gives few cookies to Riddell as well [21:28] Lex79: python-qt{3,4} just failed [21:29] thx [21:30] and judging form buildlog kde4libs for karmic shall build fine :) [21:31] Lex79: also toys failed :( [21:31] Quintasan: don't worry about that :) [21:31] I'm uploading without the right depends [21:31] oh [21:31] just to retry when there are all depends [21:32] I won't doubt your decisions since you fixed my mistakes soo many times :P [21:33] * Quintasan damns his connection [21:34] Hmmm... any small package that needs updating for 4.4? [21:34] ryanakca: kdeplasma-addons is free :) [21:34] * ryanakca just started a new semester, so the work load hasn't really picked up yet :) [21:34] * Quintasan is going to take a quick nap [21:34] Quintasan: Could you /msg me a link to the tarball and the old DSC [21:35] ryanakca: do you have access to ktown? [21:35] I build kdebase-workspace with the updated dbusmenu.diff and against the new libdbusmenu-qt-dev, kde4libs in ninja ppa is not. Will that cause problems? [21:36] neversfelde: are there any files from libs that need patching? [21:36] Quintasan: ? [21:36] neversfelde: well I wanted to know if there are files from kdelibs to be patched [21:36] neversfelde: upload to ppa and we will know :P [21:37] we have 5 days anyways :P [21:37] Quintasan: your package is from 13:20:27 and Riddell added his changes 18:00:00 +0000, so I guess we'll need an updated package? [21:38] neversfelde: well, upload it now and then we will know for sure [21:39] Quintasan: I do not have any kde4libs package? [21:39] neversfelde: in PPA? [21:39] yes, a new package for the ppa [21:39] * Quintasan is confused [21:39] Quintasan: Not to my knowledge [21:40] Quintasan: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu [21:40] neversfelde: hmm if that's the case I guess we will need a new one [21:40] neversfelde: want to do this or I should upload? [21:41] Quintasan: I am busy with workspace [21:41] neversfelde: okay [21:42] neversfelde: I will take care of libs then [21:44] ryanakca: which tarball is needed, I can send it to my server [21:44] kdeplasma-addons? [21:45] neversfelde: hmm looking at ninja ppa makes me sick, I'll wait several minutes before uploading, is that okay with you? [21:46] Quintasan: no problem for me [21:46] okay, we have 6 builds in progress, 2 waiting and 4 failed :O [21:47] neversfelde: kdeplasma-addons [21:47] so you're saying my inbox is about to go ballistic? [21:47] maco: looks like it [21:47] * Quintasan fears to launch Kontact [21:48] :S [21:48] ryanakca: http://tarballs.neversfelde.de/ [21:48] brb [21:48] let me know if you need more tarballs, but I guess Riddell can give you ktown access, too [21:50] neversfelde: got it, thanks.... and the source package? Will 4:4.3.95-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 do it? [21:50] mhh, are the tarballs secret and do we need a secret place to share them? :) [21:51] ryanakca: I think it is better to update the lucid package first [21:51] ryanakca: bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-members/kdeplasma-addons/ubuntu [21:51] ryanakca: grab from bzr [21:52] neversfelde: I don't see the hush factor, the source is freely available in the SVN :) [21:52] ok [21:52] ryanakca: you're killing the fun :P [21:53] Quintasan: :P [21:54] neversfelde: However, anonymous FTP access on ktown prevents people from accessing the 4.4.0 tarballs, so my guess is that upstream likes the hush factor :) [21:54] rofl [21:55] hush? I would call it "lolwutwtf factor" [21:55] :P [21:56] I guess there would be hundred of people who would package it for Kubuntu and publish it before release, if the tarballs are public :) [21:57] tarballs is not public yet, that is the reason of bunker exist [21:57] svn is public, but tarball doesn't :) [21:58] tarball will be public whit the KDE announce [21:58] what's the reason for that? [21:58] ask in #kde-devel [21:58] :) [21:58] :) [21:59] for me because it's not released :) [22:01] Is it worth updating policy 3.8.3->3.8.4 ? [22:02] ryanakca: afaik we do not update Standards-Version for packages that are in Debian [22:02] ryanakca: In Ubuntu you should never do that. In Debian, don't upload just for that. [22:02] Ah, ok, thanks [22:03] * Quintasan know knows where all that spam from launchpad comes [22:03] Lex79 uploads with not available depends to retry them later [22:03] :P [22:04] :) [22:05] okay time for libs with patch [22:09] Quintasan: Pushed [22:09] afternoon [22:09] Riddell: \o [22:09] Quintasan: You'll have to upload, I don't have access to the ninjas ppa [22:09] Hullo Riddell [22:10] ryanakca: we can fix that [22:11] ryanakca: :D [22:11] :) [22:11] ryanakca: write here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging if you are working on the packaging [22:11] Riddell: ping me next time you fix a patch and it's not uploaded to ppa :P [22:13] Quintasan: yeah sorry I should have done that === vorian is now known as v [22:17] hmm how to upload only diff.gz and changes? [22:18] debuild -sa -d [22:18] oi oi [22:18] v: thanks :3 [22:18] Quintasan: debuild -S without -sa [22:18] er [22:18] yeah [22:18] hi v [22:18] howdy [22:19] haloa v :) [22:19] howdy :) [22:19] lol [22:19] I just realized v is vorian [22:19] :P === v is now known as vorian [22:19] hi vorian [22:19] hullo [22:20] * ryanakca waves to vorian [22:20] * vorian waves back to ryanakca [22:20] if you don't use your nicks, there are pesky people who will try and steal them [22:21] ryanakca: I've added you to ~kubuntu-ninjas, go ahead and upload [22:21] Riddell: Thanks [22:21] ryanakca: if you tell me your ssh key I can add you to ktown access too [22:21] vorian: oooh i was one of those. i put it on my calendar "60 days from when maco last logged in" then when that day came i checked to see if they had, and they hadnt, so i begged someone to release thename [22:21] damn it still wants to upload tar.gz [22:21] :/ [22:22] maco: yikes, it's actually 84 days [22:22] vorian: hmm whatever number it is. was like umm 2 years ago [22:22] i dont think i have that old evolution calendar anymore [22:23] i think I remember helping you obtain said nick :) [22:23] Quintasan: debuild -S -sd [22:23] oh that was you i begged? [22:23] i think so, or pricey [22:24] mm yeah you two wouldve been the ops idve known from the forums [22:24] Riddell: Last line on https://edge.launchpad.net/~ryanakca/+sshkeys is the one I use most [22:24] double contractions should totally be valid [22:24] i'd've [22:24] haha [22:24] and you'ren't [22:25] (It has 'ryan@lambda' as comment) [22:25] and he'sn't [22:25] * vorian must return to werk [22:26] * Riddell wonders why ryanakca's ssh key is twice as long as anyone else's [22:26] ryanakca: ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org should work [22:27] ryanakca has hax :) [22:27] I probably had fun with the -b ssh-keygen option when I created my key :) [22:27] Riddell: Thanks :) [22:28] Lex79: I hope your karmic build contains Riddell's patch [22:28] :P [22:29] Quintasan: which patch? [22:29] dbus menu stuff? [22:30] Lex79: yup [22:30] no need for karmic [22:30] So, although having 4:4.4.0-0ubuntu1 commited to the bzr branch, the package for -ninjas should be 4:4.4.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1, correct? [22:30] yes [22:30] oh well, I just wondered how to avoid uploading tgz once again :P [22:30] Lex79: I'll remove it then in kdebase-workspace for a backport. [22:31] Lex79: so if you want me to backport it myself? === instructor_ is now known as daskreech [22:31] neversfelde: ok thanks [22:32] neversfelde: see the changes in beta backports ppa [22:32] Lex79: ok [22:32] build will finish soon, so I hope I can upload within the next half hour [22:32] Lex79: you want to kill me with those fail reports? Kontact just hung after seeing all those mail [22:32] lol [22:33] :P [22:33] kde4libs - 4:4.4.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1 [22:33] can I delete it after I sent ~ppa2? [22:33] no need [22:34] okay [22:34] I guess it will build fine on PPA (testbuild went fine here) [22:34] means we're almost done [22:34] for lucid :P [22:37] http://imagebin.org/83406 [22:37] sounds like fun [22:37] :d [22:39] * Quintasan is out for 30 mins [22:39] ping me if hell appears somewhere :P [22:47] Quintasan: kdelibs ~ppa2 ftbs [22:48] HNRGH [22:48] :S [22:48] maybe poke Riddell :) [22:48] moi? [22:48] oui [22:48] vamos? [22:49] si [22:49] lol [22:49] dunno what language we are speaking but sounds fun [22:49] :P [22:49] esperanto [22:50] and LP is slow as ?!*/? once again [22:50] :/ [22:50] si -> italian, oui -> french, vamos -> spanish [22:51] lp is slow, no news.... :) [22:51] c'est la fault de agateau [22:51] * Riddell trouve le gateau [22:51] lol [22:51] :DDD [22:52] :/ [22:52] * Quintasan is unable to deal with this [22:52] Ah, Riddell parle maintenant le français? [22:52] Riddell: can you tell what's with libs now? [22:53] <= kein Wort Französisch [22:53] neversfelde: ja, ja Volkswagen [22:53] :P [22:53] Quintasan: I guess, the dependencies are no available, yet? [22:53] :) [22:54] neversfelde: beats me, the errors are little bit off [22:56] 何してるの？ [22:56] :P [22:57] neversfelde: drop dbus stuff for karmic and change kubuntu_71_default_plasma_layout.diff with the right patch for karmic: [22:57] http://paste.ubuntu.com/369166/ [22:57] Lex79: ok, had to update an install file, so still not ready with the Lucid package [22:58] ok no prob [23:00] Quintasan: agateau missed a file in the patch, he's fixing it [23:00] ryanakca: je peut essayer [23:00] Riddell: hmm, I'm going to take a nap since it's midnight and I'm bit tired [23:01] Riddell: C'est bon :) [23:01] Quintasan: Have you had any luck with kimpanel and ibus? The buttons don't seem to do anything. (Or are you using UIM?) [23:01] Quintasan: push kdebase to bzr [23:01] Quintasan: I'll fix in bzr and PPAs [23:01] Riddell: okay, thanks [23:02] before the nap I meant :) [23:02] Lex79: okay [23:02] ogay [23:02] lol [23:04] bah timeout error in lp [23:05] damn you lp [23:05] * Quintasan want's to push damn commit [23:05] Lex79: well, I'm going to commit what I tested. It was working :P [23:06] ok, thanks [23:07] if LP allows me to do so :/ [23:14] Lex79: pushed [23:15] thx [23:23] brb [23:37] * JontheEchidna goes off to go to a Yes concert [23:38] they sound like a positive lot [23:39] * ryanakca wonders why neither approx nor apt-cache-ng accept https repositories [23:39] s/cache/cacher/ === Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates