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BluesKajtrying to totally purge pulseaudio and it's children. what command will help me find thrm ?00:00
crimsunremoving libpulse0 should suffice00:01
crimsunit'll force deinstallation of everything else00:01
tsimpsonBluesKaj: "dpkg -l |grep pulse" should help00:01
BluesKajok, I'll try that pa doesn't play nice with this laptop's intelhda card00:02
crimsuntsimpson: that won't catch libasound2-plugins, unfortunately.00:02
tsimpsoncrimsun: I don't know all the packages pulse uses, so that was just a guess00:03
hunt@tsimpson: I do have an internet connection, great :)00:03
Mamarokcrimsun: removing libpulse0 will remove half of KDE00:03
Mamarokyou mean pluseaudio-* I guess00:03
MamarokPulseaudio-* to be precise00:04
crimsunMamarok: not really. Leaving libpulse0 has some nasties that I'm trying to fix in Lucid.00:04
Mamarokcrimsun: well, it has too many dependencies, if you remove the .kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc and restart KDE that should do the trick00:04
crimsunit's quite nasty because just about everything builds with libpulse-dev as a build-dep00:04
Mamarokcrimsun: which is silly, why would this be needed in the first place00:05
BluesKajyeah I aborted the removal of libpulse000:05
crimsunMamarok: because the backends use it, which means everything using them gets dragged in00:05
MamarokBluesKaj: try removing pulseaudio-*, then remove the phonondevicesrc should be enough in most cases00:05
crimsunBluesKaj: if you just don't want to use PA, just purge pulseaudio.00:06
crimsunif you want to scrub your system of pulseaudio entirely, you'll need to wait for my no-pulseaudio package in Lucid.00:06
Mamarokcrimsun: well, Phonon doesn't to start with, nor does KDE, so it should not even be in Kubuntu00:06
crimsunMamarok: it would need to be ripped out of xine. Have fun with that.00:06
Mamarokcrimsun: at least a fresh install of Karmic doesn't drag it in00:07
Mamarokcrimsun: I have the xine backend, no pluseaudio dependecy there, not in Karmic00:07
crimsunMamarok: yeah, I know all about that one. I'm the one who pinpointed it for the jaunty dist-upgrades.00:07
Mamarokif there is one now for Lucid this is clearly wrong00:07
crimsunMamarok: there isn't.00:07
crimsunthis is precisely why I go to great lengths to try and make sure PA /doesn't/ land in Kubuntu00:08
Mamarokcrimsun: as I said, if one sticks to the Kubuntu packages trictly there should be no pulseaudio at all00:08
Mamarokcrimsun: this is already so in Karmic, why should it be different in Lucid?00:08
crimsunMamarok: we're talking past each other00:08
Mamarokseems so :)00:09
crimsunMamarok: it's status quo in Lucid00:09
Mamarokwhat is Satus Quo?00:09
MamarokStatus*00:09
crimsunMamarok: here it means there's no difference to Karmic00:09
Mamarokgood, so no pulseaudio, so I don't see the problem?00:09
crimsunMamarok: the problem is that I'm trying to make sure that Kubuntu users have a good experience, which means no PA backend at all.00:10
crimsunMamarok: however, that [now reverted] change broke for users who clearly want to use PA with Kubuntu00:10
Mamarokand what difference is there to Karmic now? Or are you just trying to keep Pulseaudio out and stand guard against it?00:11
crimsunMamarok: right now there is no difference to Karmic.00:11
Mamarokcrimsun: good, and people should really *not* use Pulaseaudio with KDE, unless it is packaged flawlessly, with a clear possibility to disable it without hogging the sound00:11
Mamaroknormally the changes pushed by coling to trunk should prevent the hogging, no?00:12
crimsunMamarok: I don't have enough (nor am I willing to devote another 10 hours per week) time to integrate them, but I'll gladly work with someone to get them in.00:12
Mamarokbut since the Pulseaudio packages of Ubuntu are a disaster even to Pulseaudio standards, I am pretty sure it will never work  correctly for the average user, the best is to avoid it00:13
crimsunthe entire sound stack is currently an unpaid fifty-hour work week for me on top of my day job00:13
Mamarokand expect much more than 10 hours per week of work, the code is just....*shudder*00:13
crimsunthey have been pretty shoddy in the past00:13
crimsunI wouldn't call them a disaster, however00:14
Mamarokcrimsun: shoddy is an euphemism IMHO00:14
crimsunMamarok: whatever you wish to call it.00:15
crimsunif someone wants them to be better, s/he should strongly consider stepping up to help.00:15
MamarokI don't know how far one can trust Lübbking, but he was very unhappy with the Ubuntu implementation, but then his code is horrible, no wonder00:15
Mamarokcrimsun: I wouldn't touch Pulseaudio, not even if forced to00:16
crimsunthat's fine, just so you understand that whinging about them doesn't make them better.00:16
MamarokI just wish a Kubuntu experience without hours and hours of spending debugging Pulseaudio dramas in support, I am really weary of it00:16
crimsunfor every hour you spend on it, I spend an order of magnitude more.00:17
Mamarokcrimsun: I know00:17
Mamarokbut you only see the tip of the iceberg of my support in this channel, you don't see the one I do in amarok, in 4 languages + the forum, so I am really fed up with pulse00:18
SPhcTi want now more about prepering partitions for my pc and seperete for system and home folder..?00:18
Mamarokand KDE in general00:18
MamarokSPhcT: sorry, I don't understand, could you reformulate your question?00:19
crimsunMamarok: I'm really uninterested in discussing who spends more time doing support. I'm sure we both have our headaches. Just be aware that I do this for ALL distros from the hardware up through Amarok.00:19
SPhcTMamarok: so i have 320gb HD and is it good idea to make seperate partition for linux and seperate for /home folder?00:20
MamarokSPhcT: yes, the advantage is that one can easily do clean installs after it with Debian/Ubuntu based distros00:20
MamarokSPhcT: usually 30 Gb is more than enough for the / partition, so you can use the rest for the home partition00:21
SPhcTand also i have 2gb ram do i need swap more than 2gb?00:21
crimsunif you plan to suspend-to-disk, yes.00:21
MamarokSPhcT: with 2Gb of RAM you would need 4 GB for swap space00:21
Mamarokon average00:21
SPhcTnow i have 15gb Primary Beginning ext4 /00:22
SPhcT282gb logical beginning ext4 /home00:23
SPhcTand 2gb logical end swap area00:23
MamarokSPhcT: will you only install KDE? then 15 Gb is be enough00:23
Mamarok-be00:23
MamarokSPhcT: you should have the double of your RAM for swap, else suspend to disk will not work well00:23
macoeven 10 would be enough even with both gnome and kde if you're not installing lots of development libraries00:24
SPhcThow much takes system with lot applications? is applications big for ubuntu?00:25
macowas -doc, -dev, and -dbg that set me over 1000:25
Mamarokthe advantage is to have some spare room for /opt with that00:25
Mamaroklike for Neon00:25
macoSPhcT: since they often share libraries, they tend to take up less space than windows programs00:25
macoSPhcT: in windows, if two programs (say, skype and something else) use qt, they each install a copy of qt. in linux, you get qt with the first one (well in this case with kde) then when you install skype it just installs whats remaining to be added, not a whole nother copy of qt as wel00:26
crimsunthat isn't strictly correct00:27
crimsunWindows has dlls just as others have sos00:27
macocrimsun: but statically linked binaries are pretty common in windows00:27
macois why they dont usually have dependencies00:27
macoosx moreso...00:27
maco(though gimp on windows does just plain say go install gtk+ first)00:28
Kagethis is sad: http://www.gerv.net/hacking/pay-download-tour/00:28
crimsunSPhcT: as a datum point, I have lots of GNOME and KDE dev bits installed, and /usr is just a shade over 4.5 GB00:28
SPhcTso 30gb for ubuntu will be very good?00:29
crimsunSPhcT: for /, sure00:29
crimsunSPhcT: you probably want to allocate more for /home if you want to store audio/video media in it00:29
SPhcTcrimsun: do i need make partitions for  /var /tmp?00:29
crimsunSPhcT: generally, if you're uncomfortable doing so (or unfamiliar with doing so), just use /00:30
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BluesKajsupposedly pulseaudio is purged, but why is it still listed in sys settings/multimedia?00:30
macohaving a separate /home isnt really necessary eitehr00:30
SPhcTi will tell what i make you tell is it right00:30
crimsunBluesKaj: because it was compiled with libpulse-dev00:31
SPhcTmaco seperete home to fast reinstall system..00:31
macoSPhcT: doesnt matter00:31
crimsunBluesKaj: don't worry, just make sure it's at the bottom of the priority list00:31
SPhcTwithout saving files on other hd00:31
macoSPhcT: the installer, for over 2 years, has been able to keep the contents of the /home directory without it being on a separate partition00:31
SPhcTuh realy?00:31
macoyes00:31
macoyou choose the manual partition option, tell it to reuse the same partition, and tell it not to format that partition00:32
crimsunwhich is both a blessing and a curse, as maco can attest00:32
macocrimsun: what curse?00:32
macocrimsun: ive never had a problem with it at installfests...00:32
crimsunmaco: except for ~/. and /etc/ cruft.00:32
macocrimsun: /etc/ gets overwritten00:33
macocrimsun: *my* /etc/ cruft is because i specifically backup /etc and *replace* the installed one00:33
crimsunmaco: which didn't do too well for you00:33
crimsunmaco: your specific ~/.pulse configuration is just one example00:33
macocrimsun: i explicitly overwrote the installed /etc with a backed up old version00:33
crimsunSPhcT: the short is that you can keep /home00:34
macocrimsun: ~/.pulse would be kept if /home was on a separate partition too, so how is what you're saying specific to "don't format" v. "use separate /home" ?? its not!00:34
BluesKajcrimsun, i'm not worried , but I sooner not have remnants hanging around for no reason00:34
crimsunmaco: what?00:34
SPhcTif i need acces files from windows do i need use ntfs for /home?00:34
crimsunmaco: nowhere did I imply format vs. don't format00:34
macocrimsun: SPhcT was already planning to keep /home and dotfiles00:35
macocrimsun: so what you're saying about my ~/.pulse is nothing to do with making "dont format" any worse00:35
crimsunSPhcT: not necessarily00:35
* Mamarok is off to bed, hf00:35
crimsunmaco: I didn't imply it was any worse. Stop reaching.00:35
macocrimsun: and what you said about "dont format" resulting in a broken /etc was just plain wrong, since "dont format" STILL writes a clean /etc and its just that *i* overwrite the clean one wtih my backed up one00:35
crimsunmaco: no, I said that you can attest to /home and /etc cruft because of your experience, not that every upgrade choice will experience it.00:36
maco(also ive never used "dont format" on my own system as i do have a separate /home ... ive just used it at installfests on other people's systems)00:36
BluesKajsleep well Mamarok:)\00:36
crimsunmaco: seriously, stop reaching00:36
macobut /etc cruft doesnt happen with a normal reinstall00:37
crimsunSPhcT: what fs type is your /home currently/00:37
harjot__is there a ubuntu 8.04 skype version for download anywhere?00:41
SPhcTso explain me diference if i have home folder on partition or together with system...00:41
daskreechmarcy: Hello00:41
daskreechharjot__: Did you look at Skype's website?00:42
macoSPhcT: either way you have to use the manual partitioner to say which is /  ... in one case you also specify /home and in the other you say "dont format". thats about it00:42
harjot__daskreech: yes00:42
harjot__daskreech: not there00:42
harjot__for 8.0400:42
harjot__only for interpid00:42
daskreechIt was last week00:42
harjot__can i have a link? cause under downloads  no hardy00:42
SPhcTcrimsun00:43
SPhcTmaco so it will take memory how much it needs for both sides?00:43
macoSPhcT: what do you mean?00:43
macoSPhcT: if you put everything on one partition, folders will grow as they need and you shouldnt need to repartition. if you separate / and /home, you may need to repartition if your usecase changes such that your / partition is too small00:44
crimsungenerally, if you are unsure from the onset, just use one large /00:45
SPhcTand how about acess home folder from windows do i need put it on ntfs?00:45
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crimsunhow do you plan to install Windows?00:46
macoSPhcT: which version of windows?00:46
daskreechI wonder if there is ext4 support for windows yet00:46
macoSPhcT: and which filesystem do you want to use for linux?00:46
SPhcTif i put in other pc00:46
SPhcTlinux ext400:46
macoif you use ext3 and it's windows xp, there's a driver for windows to let it do that00:46
macowell ext2 or ext3...00:46
macodaskreech: not that i'm aware00:47
crimsun(there are multiple drivers, but none of them play well with ext4)00:47
macoand no ext* support for vista or 7 at all00:47
macocrimsun: hmm? i only knew of one that was "ext2, but can handle ext3 by ignoring journalling since on-disk format is the same"00:47
crimsunSPhcT: is "other pc" a completely separate machine, e.g., connected via LAN?00:47
crimsunmaco: yes, there are multiple.00:48
SPhcTmaybe i will need to put hard drive in other machine if something goes wrong00:48
macofs-driver.org is the one i remember00:48
macoSPhcT: you can always boot from an ubuntu livecd if you need to fix something that went wrong00:49
crimsunSPhcT: you'll want to use ext3 if that is the case.00:49
SPhcTcrimsun and what + i have if i use seperete /home00:49
crimsunSPhcT: if you have any intent to access your Linux partition(s) from Windows in the same machine, use ext300:50
SPhcTcrimsun but still i can boot live cd and copy all files to hard drive?00:50
crimsunSPhcT: yes00:50
SPhcTif ext4 is better?00:50
crimsunwell, unless you do full disk encryption (FDE) on Windows00:51
SPhcTis it?00:51
crimsunSPhcT: for many workloads, it's "better"00:51
SPhcTok so i will use ext4 because i have external hdd 1tb00:51
harjot__is there a ubuntu 8.04 skype version for download anywhere?00:52
SPhcTcrimsun and what + i have if i use seperete /home00:53
crimsunSPhcT: that's entirely up to you00:53
SPhcTwhat u sugest?00:54
SPhcTuse one partition / and /home?00:55
SPhcTmaco: what u sugest?00:55
macoyeah one partition is simplest00:56
SPhcTbut is it safe?00:56
crimsunit's quite safe00:56
SPhcTok so now i need just do it00:57
SPhcTdo i still need set space for home or root?00:57
SPhcTor i need set space only for / ?00:58
macojust for /00:58
macohowever much you want the total space used to be00:59
SPhcTi have 320070mb HDD i have 2GB RAM so 4GB goes to swap area and rest for HDD is that good?01:00
crimsunSPhcT: sounds ok01:01
SPhcTcrimsun: and wat i shold chose for / primary or logical?01:02
SPhcTbegining or end?01:02
crimsunprimary/beginning01:03
SPhcTcrimsun wierd i did some math and in size it shows 4096mb left free but in GB is shows only 3.8gb is it ok?01:04
macoi think its showing GiB not GB01:05
macoGiB are based on 1024 GiB where 1GiB = 1024 MiB  and 1 MiB = 1024 KiB and 1 KiB = 1024 B01:05
macowhile GB are based on 1GB = 1000 MB and 1MB = 1000 KB and 1KB = 1000B01:06
macohard drives are commonly measured in GB so they get bigger numbers01:06
SPhcTok how i can get 4GB in swap?01:06
maco4096 MiB \= 4GiB01:06
SPhcTi thought it is 4096MB01:06
macoer get rid of that \01:06
maconah 4GB = 4000 MB01:07
SPhcTis show me in MB and GB01:07
SPhcTthan why it dont work?01:07
macois it saying it doesnt work? i'm getting confused now01:08
macooh ok right01:08
macohrm its probably labeling wrong01:08
SPhcTin table free space 4096MB but up near line where i see how i change partition is writen 3.8GB01:08
macoim guessing inconsistent labeling. if you put 4096 it should do it right though01:09
macoi'd file a bug about that if i were you01:09
macoanyway ive been meaning to go get food the last 20 minutse01:09
SPhcTsory01:10
SPhcTwill that 4096MB will be enaught for swap?01:10
crimsunSPhcT: generally, yes.01:10
crimsunI have rather stringent requirements, so I tend to use 3x physical RAM01:11
SPhcTcrimsun have u experienced that bug?01:11
crimsunSPhcT: no01:11
SPhcTmaybe it shows me alredy formated space?01:11
macoid not be surprised if it was measuring in GiB and displaying with GB or reverse01:12
crimsunyou should be able to use units, e.g., 4.0 GB01:12
crimsunor 4.0 G01:12
crimsunremember there's block size overhead, too01:12
SPhcTswap is logical end or primary end?01:13
crimsunwhichever you wish01:13
crimsunit doesn't make any difference01:14
SPhcTbut has to be end?01:14
SPhcTand better if it is 6GB on 2GB ram?01:14
sheldon_is virtuoso available on karmic?01:16
sheldon_yep found it01:17
SPhcTomg 6481MB is 6.0 GB01:20
Lostzebraapeople01:36
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chisel_how do i uninstall wine and all the apps in it? i just used apt-get remove wine then re-installed it, and all the apps are still there.02:27
chisel_aww c'mon...purdy please?02:29
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kaddihola :)02:43
angelque tal ?02:43
kaddibien :)02:44
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Kagenight!03:16
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Kubuntu8-5Hi everyone I wanted to know if anyone has any problems with Kubuntu 8.05?03:38
Kubuntu8-5HELLO03:39
Kubuntu8-5anyone home03:39
Kubuntu8-5Hi divan03:39
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Kubuntu8-5How come no one wants to talk03:42
Kubuntu8-5someone called me a theiving Niggar yesterday :(03:43
Kubuntu8-5Hello?03:44
Kubuntu8-5Hi ugh!03:47
Kubuntu8-5wow allot of services running on 82.16.180.18 amazing!03:53
Kubuntu8-5Is that you collin?03:53
Kubuntu8-5Man he was the coolest google engineer of the bunch03:53
Kubuntu8-5he changes the search rankings all the time when they dance03:53
wizkoderhy everybody03:55
wizkodersometimes my sound stops working. but the microphone is still working. is there a way to restart it?03:56
wizkoderI guess its an application like skype that inits its sound devices and kills my other devices. Is that possible?03:57
angelcomo instalo plugin java en mi navegador ?03:58
Kubuntu8-5Oh skype you recomend it?03:59
Kubuntu8-5Works great on Windows Vista 7!03:59
Kubuntu8-5in 32 bit mode03:59
Kubuntu8-5I am waiting for android Nexus one to be available in canada04:00
Kubuntu8-5can't wait04:00
Kubuntu8-5I met one of the Reps from NewYork the other day! She says she spent over 6000 dollars promoting it with Kanoodle too bad about the falsified documents she created from the court house oh well I love this industry!04:00
kaddi_angel: hace "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras" en su terminal04:01
Kubuntu8-5Oh its konsole04:01
Kubuntu8-5not terminal04:01
angelgracias o thank you xD04:01
Kubuntu8-5xterm is available still04:01
kaddi_angel: si quieres mas ayuda debes preguntar in ingles ;)04:01
Kubuntu8-5however super console is not functioning anymore04:01
angelok04:01
albertolempirahey guys i got a question, when i download a plasma theme directly from the Desktop settings window it won't show in the themes selection menu, i only got Air and Oxygen... how do i get them to show in that menu? Thanks in advance04:02
Kubuntu8-5if you download gnome with synaptic it will work fine however04:02
angelesque el de español esta fuera de servicio parece ser no conecta...04:02
Kubuntu8-5the nvidia login with yast is available still in 8.05 build04:02
Kubuntu8-5yast will never die04:02
Kubuntu8-5my girlfriend had a yast infection with kubuntu once04:02
kaddi_!es04:02
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:02
Kubuntu8-5now everybody has it04:03
Kubuntu8-5The restricted version modulates with Nvidia was fastest in 8.0404:03
Kubuntu8-5however the kde4-bin jockey seems to still want access to the amd processor areas of your mainboard in 8.0504:03
Kubuntu8-5where you all from?04:03
Kubuntu8-5I want 1 million04:03
kaddi_angel: so no hay nadie en kubuntu-es, prueba #ubuntu-es en su lugar. Normalmente hay mas gente in el canal de ubuntu que hay en el canale de kubuntu04:04
kaddi_angel estas desconectado cuando pruebas entrar en el canal?04:06
Kubuntu8-5hsd1 in miami how many federal court cases you looking for?04:08
Kubuntu8-5Looks like your the biggest abuser I seen in some time04:08
albertolempirahey guys i got a question, when i download a plasma theme directly from the Desktop settings window it won't show in the themes selection menu, i only got Air and Oxygen... how do i get them to show in that menu? Thanks in advance04:10
Kubuntu8-5Easy theirs processors in the LCD04:10
Kubuntu8-5no problem04:10
Kubuntu8-5any other questions?04:11
Kubuntu8-5Oh you mean how to get ride of the flickr?04:11
Kubuntu8-5impossible half the time you log into a terminal console when your isp switches you to a 100mb/s lan and throttles your local bind then fakes the login half the time04:12
Kubuntu8-5most likely a office at the cia04:12
Kubuntu8-5any other questions?04:12
Kubuntu8-5Exciting.....04:12
Kubuntu8-5Hey sergi when I promoted my adsense website with adwords and spent over 7300 dollars with adwords and you cancled my check for 1200 with adsense is their any way I could get that back buddy?04:13
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Kubuntu8-5what class actions are your ips HSD1 ?04:15
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Kubuntu8-5their great04:15
Kubuntu8-5all so intelligent over their just like shaw cable04:16
Kubuntu8-5in fact their almost interchangable04:16
Kubuntu8-5I haven't seen a more intelligent group of people just ask them where their email server is located04:16
Kubuntu8-5I have so many questions!04:17
Kubuntu8-5Is anyone Familar with the 8.05 Launch?04:17
Kubuntu8-5http://pearlcompany.ca04:17
Kubuntu8-5Oh heres a intelligent gent04:18
Kubuntu8-5hows it going is that you wiley?04:18
Kubuntu8-5I am waiting for my answer on the home stove04:18
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Kubuntu8-5Whats the intelligence their at the googleplex is it over about 70 now or was their a hiring freeze04:24
Kubuntu8-5HEY another hsd1 USER!04:25
Kubuntu8-5hey buddy hows it going04:25
jc0694anybody have a problem getting kubuntu to see flash drive if you leave the flash drive in during bootup.  It only appears to see the flash drive if I put the drive in after the OS loads.04:26
Kubuntu8-5This question is in regarding the next generation of computing however it seems difficult to get some ignorant backwater developers to support simple alternate Boot sequences in start up a Western Digital Windows Xp installation comes to mine and NTLDR04:29
Kubuntu8-5Obviously the advantages of a flash memory system is obvious04:29
Kubuntu8-5the only bottleneck would be storage04:30
Kubuntu8-5and everyone wants to slow the process because well manufacturers want to sell obsolete technologies as long as possible04:30
Kubuntu8-5who really needs a faster system anyway04:30
Kubuntu8-5Who you trying to impress04:31
Kubuntu8-5Why would you give a shit if my system would by 100x faster than yours if it can only do the same things anyway be useless and make no money04:31
Kubuntu8-5so its all pointless04:31
Kubuntu8-5speaking of pointless Try Kubuntu 8.05!04:31
Kubuntu8-5Why don't you spend your entire careers building something for me since you absolutely despise me but it appears I am the only one in canada using this shit04:32
jc0694do i need to restart my pc after installing medibuntu in order to use amarok to play mp3s?04:32
Kubuntu8-5Good question, I would ask DSLREPORTS04:33
kaddi_jc0694: no04:33
Kubuntu8-5Make that guy look at that picture and listen to the recording another year thats all I have to say04:33
Kubuntu8-5Cuz anyone in the ISP industry seems to be wasting their time nowadays04:34
jc0694hmmm... it amarok still won't play music... i did the first 2 commands from here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu).  i don't think i need to do anything else, but still no music04:35
Kubuntu8-5Sometimes i seem to have a weird effect on people the harder they hide the more I LIKE EM!04:35
kaddi_jc0694: have you installed the codecs04:36
kaddi_?04:36
Kubuntu8-5No but thats a cool forum too04:37
Kubuntu8-5your starting to see why I am so dangerous now04:37
jc0694kaddi_: i thought that the first 2 commands from the tutorial installed the codecs.  no?04:37
Kubuntu8-5I suggest putting your shoes back on the stink is something aweful04:37
kaddi_jc0694: as far as I understand the firs two commands will only setup your system to allow programs from medibuntu to be installed, it doesn't actually install the programs04:38
Kubuntu8-5Yeah wrong linda but shes better looking than the last one I talked to04:38
kaddi_Kubuntu8-5: please stop it, at least as long as someone is asking for help04:38
jc0694kaddi_: i just want to use amarok which is already installed... i still need the codecs to be downloaded i guess huh?04:39
kaddi_jc0694: what are you trying to play mp3, wma files?04:39
jc0694just mp3 files04:39
Kubuntu8-5just go to adept and download synaptic and use that as your package installer kpackage and adebt are a bit useless try gnome with the gdm interface its much faster04:39
Kubuntu8-5apt -get gdm works as well from konsole04:40
Kubuntu8-5if you build it they will come04:40
kaddi_jc0694: scroll down to the "playing non-native media formats" and isntall the codecs mentioned there, that should install the codecs you need04:40
kaddi_Kubuntu8-5: and installing gnome will solve a codec problem, how?04:40
jc0694i think this is the command i need (i have amd64)...04:41
Kubuntu8-5Good question! NHL.COM was caged last night to one ip with good reason04:41
jc0694wget -c http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/w/w64codecs/w64codecs_20071007-0medibuntu1_amd64.deb04:41
jc0694sudo dpkg -i w64codecs_20071007-0medibuntu1_amd64.deb04:41
jc0694copy that into console right?04:41
kaddi_!ops04:41
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, tsimpson, jpds, seth_k, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, trappist, crimsun, seth, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici, jussi01, ikonia, Mamarok, ryanakca or maco04:41
Kubuntu8-5the dpkg installer is useful in aquireing the latest flash plugins04:41
Kubuntu8-5or why don't you just ask me04:41
kaddi_jc0694: what kind of system do you have, 64bit?04:42
jc0694yes04:42
Kubuntu8-5sorry I deserve the job more any anyone in this room04:42
Kubuntu8-5I just am plain smarter04:42
Kubuntu8-5about anything you have done04:42
Kubuntu8-5its just that way my friend04:43
Kubuntu8-5its just that way04:43
kaddi_jc0694: you added the medibuntu repository if you followed the first two commands from the guide. So you can simply do !sudo apt-get install w64codecs"04:43
Kubuntu8-5I suggest that india rebuild the shrine in my honour however its wrong to worship false gods04:43
Kubuntu8-5but isn't that the foundation of google04:43
Kubuntu8-5I need to be apreciated more04:44
Kubuntu8-5I don't think anyone deserves to work their honestly04:44
bazhangKubuntu8-5, please take random chat elsewhere04:44
jc0694i already ran the last command (amarok still doesn't work)... should i undo that command or just run the new command u said?04:44
Kubuntu8-5Do you want to live your life bankrupt too bazhang?04:44
Kubuntu8-5I suggest catching the next payment I made its a good wage for someone outside Canada or USA04:45
Kubuntu8-5but here it wont buy much04:45
bazhangKubuntu8-5, this is Kubuntu support only04:45
bazhangKubuntu8-5, offtopic chat in #kubuntu-offtopic04:45
kaddi_thx04:45
jc0694what undoes an aptget command?04:46
bazhangjc0694, which command04:46
Kubuntu8-5http://noizeystatic.blogspot.com/04:46
Kubuntu8-5how is that off topic04:46
Kubuntu8-5I bet most of you don't even know the cache size on a intel from 1970 around here04:47
jc0694i messed up and accidentally ran the command for installing an individual package.  how do i undo this command:  wget -c http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/w/w64codecs/w64codecs_20071007-0medibuntu1_amd64.deb04:47
jc0694sudo dpkg -i w64codecs_20071007-0medibuntu1_amd64.deb04:47
Kubuntu8-5If your not more intelligent than me how can you expect to even pretend to be working on something I know more about?04:48
Kubuntu8-5I really wish my knowledge was power04:48
Kubuntu8-5Unfortunately it isn't04:48
kaddi_jc0694:  it should not be a problem04:49
jc0694should i just go ahead and run the new command u saidd? (sudo apt-get install w64codecs)04:49
Kubuntu8-5really wow I thought I was the only one that would do that for money04:49
kaddi_jc0694: can you try if you can play your mp3 now, you need to restart amarok for it to work04:50
Kubuntu8-5Why don't you use kaffeine its much faster04:51
Kubuntu8-5amaroke will comprimise your integrety04:51
Kubuntu8-5I know this04:51
Kubuntu8-5any codec will04:52
kaddi_bazhang: you have an idea how to get a hold of an op if noone reacts to the !ops command?04:52
Kubuntu8-5almost04:52
bazhangkaddi_, no one around right now apparently04:52
Kubuntu8-5I think remote desktops should never have been invented04:52
kaddi_no, not for the last hour...04:52
Kubuntu8-5204:52
Kubuntu8-5any suggestions at a career for me?04:53
bazhangKubuntu8-5, please take chat elsewhere04:53
Kubuntu8-5I am quite intelligent however rude04:53
Kubuntu8-5maybe teaching is my calling04:53
Kubuntu8-5why arn't you learning valuable information?04:53
Kubuntu8-5isn't that was this game is all about buddy04:53
Kubuntu8-5Reading peoples shit all day with no respect to their privacy04:54
jc0694kaddi_: no it still doesn't work... is there a way to test to see if i have actually installed the mp3 codec?04:54
mneptok!language | Kubuntu8-504:54
ubottuKubuntu8-5: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.04:54
bazhangKubuntu8-5, you have been asked numerous times to remain on topic04:54
Kubuntu8-5hiding behind technology wasting your life rotting away behind a screen living a life with low moral standers spying on people all day long04:54
kaddi_what does "apt-cache policy w64codecs" in konsole say?04:54
Kubuntu8-5I thought that is the foundation of linux04:54
Kubuntu8-5transparency04:54
Kubuntu8-5wanting to share04:55
Kubuntu8-5however is seems no one here wants to share04:55
Kubuntu8-5just help themselfs04:55
kaddi_thx04:56
jc0694kaddi_: saays installed:  (none)04:56
jc0694... on the first line04:56
jc0694Installed: (none)04:56
jc0694  Candidate: 20071007-0medibuntu204:56
jc0694  Version table:04:56
jc0694     20071007-0medibuntu2 004:56
jc0694        500 http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty/non-free Packages04:56
FloodBotK2jc0694: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:56
kaddi_jc0694: are you using jaunty?04:57
bazhangjc0694, you have the repo installed? did you sudo apt-get update after that?04:57
jc0694no... i'm on 9.0404:57
bazhangjc0694, that is jaunty04:57
jc0694ok04:58
kaddi_jc0694: try running "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get install w64codecs" then04:58
jc0694what does sudo apt-get update do?  i want my version to stay at 9.04 if possible04:59
bazhangjc0694, simply updates your sources.list04:59
kaddi_jc0694: dont worry we wouldn't ask you to do such major changes without letting you know first. ;)04:59
jc0694its showing as installed now...05:01
kaddi_it will update the list of packages available and thereby add the packages from medibuntu to that list05:01
kaddi_k, restart amarok, is it working now?05:01
jc0694kaddi_: no, still won't play mp3.  i'm not familiar with amarok though.  i just clicked on mp3 file in amarok window and nothing.  i know sound is working in general because i hear tune on OS startup05:03
bazhangjc0694, have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras05:04
jc0694bazhang: i don't think so05:04
bazhangjc0694, good idea to install that package05:04
jc0694bazhang: u think that will fix the problem?05:05
bazhangjc0694, of not being able to play mp3? most certainly, unless it is only a single mp3 that is giving you trouble (corrupted)05:05
jc0694can u give me command to install the package please?05:06
bazhangjc0694, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras05:07
Bannedfunny they keep telling me people get killed for doing this05:08
BannedI spend most my day watching muchmusic05:09
Banneddon't you trust me?05:09
bazhang!ot | Banned05:09
ubottuBanned: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:09
jc0694never seen a screen like that... it popped a new console screen up titled "configuring sun-java6-jre"... not sure what to do here... there's an "ok" at the bottom.  is this some type of licensing agreement?05:10
bazhangjc0694, tab to ok and hit enter05:10
jc0694ok... ya05:11
jc0694this may do it... it's a pretty hefty file.  keep fingers crossed05:12
bazhangjc0694, it is a very large download05:13
jc0694it's amazing that computers and software even work... i have no idea what this is doing or how it really even works...05:14
jc0694it's done... should i restart my computer?05:16
bazhangjc0694, did you it prompt you to do so?05:16
bazhangerr -you05:17
jc0694no05:17
bazhangthen no05:17
jc0694i've been using windows too long i guess05:17
jc0694try amarok again?05:18
bazhangnormally only kernel upgrades and certain security fixes require restarts05:18
bazhangyep05:18
jc0694well i'm getting sound now but no music... when i play a file i hear a crackling sound05:19
bazhangjc0694, try lowering the sound a tad05:20
jc0694bazhang: the crackling has a lower volume...05:20
Planetarymy off board sound card is only playing system sounds. i Have it as prefered in the media settings. Im looking on how to make it default for my programs05:20
jc0694it's an improvement over nothing before...05:22
Planetaryasoundconfig doesnt work05:26
Planetarysudo asoundconfig list  says command not found05:26
jc0694are there any conflicts with the packages we just installed and xmms2?05:27
bazhangjc0694, shouldn't be, though not sure why you would want xmms2 as opposed to audacious, the replacement for xmms05:28
jc0694it works now... the restart did it!!!!05:28
Planetaryoh yay it works05:29
bazhangjc0694, good to hear05:29
jc0694is audacious a standalone app or is it a client/server thing like xmms2?05:30
bazhangstandalone05:30
bazhangjc0694, you want a streaming server type app?05:30
jc0694i really want something as close to winamp as possible.  any ideas?05:31
bazhangthat would be audacious05:31
jc0694i need to remove xmms2 from synaptic... there's should be any type of conflict when uninstalling with the codecs we installed right?05:33
bazhangjc0694, nope05:33
jc0694bazhang: what's the difference from "remove" and "completely remove" when uninstalling using syanptic?05:34
bazhangjc0694, the configs as well05:34
jc0694should i just do a remove or a completely remove of xmms2?05:35
jc0694just figured it out... disregard05:37
jc0694bazhang: it's just the package called "audacious" in synaptic right?  it's gonna download a bunch of other packages to install.  that sounds right?05:39
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bazhangjc0694, yep05:40
titan_arkpower management issues :(05:47
titan_arkanyone with ideas to solve the bug?05:48
jc0694are there any known conflict problems between audacious and amarok.  i can play music in amarok but can't play music in audacious05:59
YamikoHey, little bit of an emergency here. My computer stopped booting up properly; startx was saying no screens found. I renamed my xorg.conf and got it to load kde but now I get "kwin has become unstable" and, well, with kwin constantly crashing I can't do much of anything. Help?06:07
titan_arkno one seems to be active06:12
YamikoNot at all, with 240 users? U__U I need this comp running in 10 hours, and shy of reinstalling kubuntu I seem to be out of options.06:13
YamikoThe weirdest bit is I havn't changed anything. It was low on battery and went into suspend, so it probably died mid-suspend, but when I booted it up again, "No screens found". The only way I managed to get it to start (as opposed to changing to "No devices found" or "No drivers found") was to remove xorg.conf (via rename) and let it use the defaults (not even "ati" or "radeon" drivers worked). <c>06:16
YamikoWhen that happens, kwin flips out and crashes repeatedly.06:16
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ubuntu107:33
ogr3Hi! I'm installing kubuntu 9.10 on a desktop with rt2800usb wireless driver on 2wire with standard wep passkey. I have "wep"selected in the box the key entered correctly, wep index 1, authentication = shared key. no luck getting a connection. any ideas?07:43
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Duskaohey guys, which firewall/if any do you use on Kubuntu?07:54
kaddi_i don't use one07:55
kaddi_but i believe you can set up iptables as a firewall07:56
kaddi_!firewall07:56
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux  distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist07:56
DuskaoYeah, I know they all use iptables, but I was just hoping for an easy user interface.07:57
jussi01Duskao: guarddog is supposed to be pretty good, but thats hearsay only.07:57
DuskaoI just downloaded this kmyfirewall out of the repos, checking it out.07:57
Duskaowell, they are all the same, but the gui would be different. Plus I don't want to spend lots of time with it, nor am I a power user when it comes to firewalls so....07:58
erinaceus_Morning, anyone alive?08:11
erinaceus_Guess not :D08:13
erinaceus_Lass ma zum beamer gehen, mehr platz08:13
jussi01erinaceus_: just ask you question. :)08:17
erinaceus_I'm trying to create a javascript plasmoid and i get the following error "Could not open the js package required for Hello ... Widget"08:18
erinaceus_But i dont know which package is meant08:18
titan_arkpower management trouble :(08:19
titan_arkand no one seems to have the solution here08:19
jussi01erinaceus_: maybe better to ask that one in #kde or #kubuntu-devel08:21
jussi01erinaceus_: Im sorry we cant help you further08:22
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jussi01titan_ark: tell the issue and lets see?08:23
titan_arkjussi01: thx :)08:23
titan_arkjussi01: well everytime my notebbok recovers from sleep mode power management says there is no battery08:24
titan_arkbut once i reboot its perfectly fine08:24
jussi01ahh, yes. sleep/hibernate can be an issue.08:24
jussi01titan_ark: please report a bug about it and hopefully then it will get fixed08:25
jussi01!bug | titan_ark08:25
ubottutitan_ark: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots08:25
titan_arkjussi01: thx08:25
titan_arkjussi01: what is the package name for the powermanagement?08:28
jussi01titan_ark: mrgh, Im not actually sure.08:30
titan_ark:) oki08:30
titan_arki am quite  a noob :P08:30
jussi01titan_ark: dont stress, Ive been around a good while and I actually dont know.08:30
titan_arklol08:31
titan_arkokay08:31
titan_ark:)08:31
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pulaskiHi, I run kubuntu 9.10 and just grabbed firefox v 3.6.2pre from mozilla.org. It seems to run fine but no java or flash. I used apt-get to install the sun-java6-plugin and dpkg to install install_flash_player_10_linux.deb. I'm still unable to watch video clips. Will I have to wait for firefox 3.6 package to appear in the repositiories? Any other suggetions?09:10
titan_arkpulaski: i just did a flash update in konqueror browser and it set it right in firefox too09:20
titan_arkdoes flash work in konqueror for you?09:20
titan_arkcould someone help me add this patch to my kernel? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/45396309:28
keuxalguém que fale português?09:31
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Koliadoes someone here can run nepomuk with KDE4.4 rc2 ?11:25
DeeJay1hello11:36
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MamarokKolia: it runs fine, you need to install the virtuoso server and client packages11:42
MamarokKolia: have a look at this: http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/virtuoso-once-more-with-feeling/11:42
qamultowwhat is the best wat to install kubuntu ti he hard drive with windows so the the 2 operate independently on one another with no conflicts?11:53
qamultowwhen i run kubuntu live it changes the windows clock11:59
RiotingPacifistMamarok & Kolia: 4.4rc2 has virtuoso packaged and working no need for compiling your own11:59
RiotingPacifistqamultow: install windows then kubuntu, grub *should* detect windows and let you boot to it, the clock problem is fixable12:05
qamultowwindow came in it12:05
qamultowwill the 2 operate independently? riotingpacifist12:07
RiotingPacifistqamultow: to fix the time problem sudo nano /etc/default/rcS, then Change "UTC=yes" to "UTC=no".12:07
RiotingPacifistqamultow: apart from changing the bootloader to grub, windows will be unafected12:08
qamultowso does that mean windows will now boot from grub?12:08
RiotingPacifistyes, thats the only change windows will get, other than that windows will run normally it wont even know ubuntu is installed12:12
qamultowhhmmmm....thanks riotingpacifist12:13
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KoliaMamarok: it works fine here under 4.3.513:02
Koliaon my 4.4rc2 it doesn't work anymore13:03
Koliaaccording to this : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4-rc-2 i installed virtuoso-server and virtuoso-drivers13:03
Koliabut strigi still fails to start13:03
tumaixKolia: I have 4.4rc2 from ppa13:03
tumaixand it works13:03
Koliai wonder why strigi doesn't start :/13:04
Koliatumaix: any idea how i could troubleshoot it?13:04
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tumaixI just installed virtuoso server and drivers, and it worked13:05
Koliatumaix: i just installed too, but still the strigi error. I will check again tonight :/13:06
tumaixKolia: sorry I cant help any further =/13:10
paradoxuncreatedEnabling HPET in BIOS = recognized in linux?13:18
weiszdircnet13:31
badrHi13:34
badrHi every one13:35
ramanKHi there13:45
ramanKI installed The Kubuntu 9.10 on a Thinkpad notebook13:45
ramanKbut when I turn on the notebook the battery monitor shows it's charging13:46
ramanKand the performance profile selected13:46
ramanKis selected*13:47
ramanKhow can I solve this problem?13:47
mark__ramanK, consider trying Ubuntu 9.10 as a LiveCD.13:49
mark__If the problem is the same then you can search more broadly for help.13:49
mark__I can't offer any specific help on that.13:49
ramanKThe Ubuntu works correctly , but the problem only occures in kubuntu13:50
mark__Interesting.13:50
mark__Sorry, perhaps someone else can give better advice. :)13:51
ramanKmark_ , thanks for attention :)13:52
mark__no prob. )13:52
KoliaramanK: i don't understand your problem13:52
ramanKThe problem is battery monitor shows battery charging , alghough the AC adapter is not plug in!13:53
ramanKalthough*13:54
KoliaramanK: have you updated recently?13:55
Koliaor is it a fesh install?13:55
ramanKfresh install13:55
KoliaramanK: what says:  kde4-config --version  in a console?13:55
ramanKQt: 4.5.213:56
ramanKKDE: 4.3.2 (KDE 4.3.2)13:56
ramanKkde4-config: 1.013:56
FloodBotK3ramanK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:56
KoliaramanK: i don't know if it's a bug in the battery applet, but if it is, you can try to update to a more recent KDE version13:57
KoliaramanK: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.3.513:58
ramanKKolia: I'll do , but if it occers again after that , should I report a bug ? ( I mean , is it a bug?)13:59
KoliaramanK: it doesn't work as expected, so this is a bug13:59
ramanKKolia: thanks14:00
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ramanKanother question , Is it effective to enable the laptop mode in kubuntu karmic?14:02
ramanKthe kubuntu dies half an hour before Window$ 714:02
KoliaramanK: i don't know.. i also notice worse autonomy under Linux14:10
Kolianot specific to kubuntu i think14:10
Koliajussio1: it's KDE 4.3.5 in backport no?14:11
terran4000ramanK: sadly yeah, Linux in general has worse battery performance than proprietary OS's14:11
terran4000(not by much though)14:12
howlymowlyhi guys.. short question:  i put the "swallower" applet in my gnome panel.. but I can not remove it anymore.. it keeps asking me for a window to swallow on every log in..  any idea how to remove that applet?  I am not able to click on it in the panel, since for some reason its invisible...14:17
howlymowlyoops .. sorry.. wanted to ask this ib #ubuntu...  nevermind :()14:17
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hyqI write a simple C program http://paste.ubuntu.com/368905/. it should print "BAA", but it prints "BAAA".could you help me?  email:hyqhyq_3@163.com14:45
vbgunzmy weather forecast settings widget in my lower taskbar no longer shows a pretty image of the weather. anyone know why?14:49
vbgunzits now a white square with a black no smoking symobl14:49
Wolfcastlehello14:56
WolfcastleI just upgraded to kde 4.414:58
Wolfcastleand it's not working...any idea how to downgrade to 4.3?14:59
wizkoderhy everybody15:04
RiotingPacifistWolfcastle: try running "mv ~/.kde{,~}" settings don't seam to migrate well in kde15:05
RiotingPacifistWolfcastle: as for howto downgrade, you can either change apt's policy settings to make apt-get dist-update downgrade all the packages or use remove the ppa from your sources and then use a gui/tui tool (i know aptitude can) to downgrade a few select programs and the rest should follow.15:08
Wolfcastleok thanx RiotingPacifist15:14
yesitisjustmei have a sprint wireless card and baud rate is 9600 is this to low or is it correct?15:18
genii9600 doesn't sound right at all for a wireless card.15:20
genii(unless maybe for some kind of serial management interface on it)15:21
yesitisjustmeon terminal it said something like it was the maximum safe speed or something15:22
yesitisjustmeif i try a higher speed could i damage the wireless card15:23
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geniiyesitisjustme: I know that if you use some command like "screeen" without sudo and specifying the speed, it will usually default to that setting (9600)15:25
yesitisjustmeoh15:26
ct529what is the extension .flw?15:30
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geniict529: Kivio flowchart file15:31
ubuntu_giantHello.  I've done some googling (okay, start-paging) for this problem, and I can15:33
ubuntu_giant't find a solution:15:33
ct529genii: thanks15:33
ubuntu_giantWhen I hibernate my computer in KDE, my screen doesn't lock.  I even have the settings set to lock on hibernate/suspend.  Is this a known bug?15:34
ubuntu_giantOr is there something I might be doing wrong?15:34
ct529genii: strange I cannot install kivio because I have koffice 2.0 installed .... and cannot open anymore the old flw files with koffice 215:34
ubuntu_giantThanks.15:34
ct529genii: what a mess15:34
gorgonizerct529: iirc, Kivio was part of Koffice, but dropped from koffice 2 due to the lack of a maintainer.  You would need to install koffice to be able to install kivio (I believe)15:36
ubuntu_giantAnyone know why my screen isn't locking when I resume from suspend/hibernate?  I have it set to do that in the settings.15:39
ct529gorgonizer: this is what I did: uninstalled koffice 210, reinstalled koffice 163, so that kivio may be installed ....15:39
ct529gorgonizer: I frankly do not udnerstand removing it .... it was working, leave the old version15:39
gorgonizerct529: I agree, I really liked Kivio as a flowchart program.  According to the Kivio homepage, it is to come into Koffice2, but they are looking for volunteers to assist in getting it ready for release.15:41
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ct529gorgonizer: I like it very much .... umbrello and dia are good but not as good for flow charts for presentations ....15:50
gorgonizerct529: totally agree, glad to find out that a Koffice2 version will be released...15:52
elcucois it possible to install the webkit kpart in 9.10?15:55
ct529gorgonizer: what is the difference between koffice 2 and koffice215:56
lynx_rhi all, i need to disable sata hdd at boot time to load directly from external usb hdd does it possible do?15:57
gorgonizerct529: nothing, as far as I am aware, I think Koffice2 refers to the new series of technology used, whereas Koffice 2.x would refer to the release..15:59
gorgonizerct529: it would be like the difference between KDE4 and KDE SC 4.x15:59
daskreechwotan: Got your downgrade options?16:00
daskreechvbgunz: You have no net?16:00
ct529gorgonizer: thanks16:03
ct529gorgonizer: I had koffice 2.1 installed .... had to remove it to reinstall kivio16:03
vbgunzdaskreech: sorry?16:05
gorgonizerct529: I would have to do the same to get kivio back, currently testing Koffice2 to see what improvements have been made..16:07
ct529gorgonizer: how is it going?16:21
kaddianyone using kde 4.4 on karmic? How do you like it?16:29
chisel_can someone take me by the hand and give me the terminal commands to install a tar.gz without analyzing my childhood?16:36
chisel_all the google searches say is "type ./configure make sudo make install" and guess what? that dont work16:36
kaddichisel_: what is in the tar.gz?16:37
kaddican you unzip it=16:38
geniichisel_: Much is dependant upon the contents of the file. Usually the reason we want to know "what it is" is because building an application from it's source code is far more problemmatic than installing the application from the built-in package manager and repositories.16:38
chisel_it is a flight sim16:38
chisel_ysflight16:38
geniichisel_: OK, I just checked and it is not in standard repositories, so then a checklist: Do you have the package build-essential installed?16:39
chisel_i appologize for sounding terse, but, so far, my experience with ubuntu is not going well.16:39
chisel_yes i have build esential16:40
chisel_perhaps there is an ubuntu flightsim?16:41
chisel_*kubuntu even16:41
nerdy_kidanyone know when the KDE 4.4RC3 packages are coming to kubuntu?16:42
Wolfcastledon't know, hope it's not too soon16:43
Wolfcastleso they have it as bug-free as possible16:43
gorgonizerct529: I am enjoying the experience so far, looks like it will be an impressive series of software, unfortunately, like KDE4 itself, early adapters may be disappointed, but I think Koffice2 will be a fruitful software series..16:43
ct529gorgonizer: is kivio still there?16:44
Wolfcastleanyone knows how to run aptitude without removing/adding dependencies?16:44
gorgonizernerdy_kid: I doubt KDE SC 4.4 RC3 will appear in Kubuntu... they were mainly created due to packaging problems in RC2, from what I understand..16:44
chisel_genii i do have the build-essential. what's next?16:44
gorgonizerct529: not yet, kivio is the main thing I was looking for, it is being added to Koffice2, but at which version release I do not know :(  Hopefully soon though :)16:45
nerdy_kidgorgonizer that sucks16:45
nerdy_kidgorgonizer thanks for your help though :)16:46
chisel_anyone else wanna take a stab at helping me learn how to install a tar.gz?16:46
nerdy_kidchisel_ thats source code right?16:46
gorgonizernerdy_kid: there was little point to be honest, from what I can tell, the final release of KDE SC 4.4 is nearing release...16:46
nerdy_kidgorgonizer, yeah if it was comming the 9th it wouldnt be so bad (RC2 has some really bad quircks) but i hear they are behind schedual quite a few days.16:47
chisel_nerdy-kid: i've no idea. i'm not that saavy. i just wanna flight sim. the tar.gz i'm insttalling is ysflight16:47
gorgonizernerdy_kid: I had not heard that it was delayed, I heard that KDE SC 4.4 final release tagging was completed according to the schedule, but as for the release packages themselves, I do not know..16:48
nerdy_kidgorgonizer thats wierd....i could be wrong, but i know for a fact that RC2 was behind schedual, and i read on the opensuse forums that they had gotten behind since the beta16:49
gorgonizerchisel_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-source-files-in-ubuntu.html   should help you16:50
gorgonizernerdy_kid: hmm, haven't kept my opensuse VM up to date, but from the Kubuntu side, although RC1 was behind schedule, KDE SC 4.4 RC2 was released according to the schedule.. in fact, my machine was running it from Beta PPA before RC 2 was announced on the KDE website :)16:51
chisel_thanks bud, i'll have a look.16:52
gorgonizerchisel_: np..16:52
chisel_who'd got my forkin lighter?!16:52
nerdy_kidgorgonizer thats strange...i do download my updates from a MIT mirror instead of the main one, would that effect it at all? cause mine were days off.....16:53
gorgonizernerdy_kid: hmm, an MIT mirror of the Beta PPA?  If so, it could have been a delay in the packages passing to the other mirrors..16:55
chisel_ok, so far, i've navi'd to the extracted file and done ./configure. the error reads no such file or directory. am i doing something wrong?16:55
chisel_scott@scott-desktop:~$ cd Desktop16:56
chisel_scott@scott-desktop:~/Desktop$ ls16:56
chisel_personal  Swiftfox.desktop  utorrent.exe  ysflight-ubuntu  ysflight-ubuntu.tar.gz16:56
chisel_scott@scott-desktop:~/Desktop$ cd ysflight-ubuntu/16:56
chisel_scott@scott-desktop:~/Desktop/ysflight-ubuntu$ ./configure16:56
FloodBotK3chisel_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:56
chisel_bash: ./configure: No such file or directory16:56
gorgonizerchisel_: when you extracted the tar.gz package a folder should have been created (with a very similar name to the acutal tar.gz file you downloaded), and you should run ./configure in that folder..16:57
gorgonizerchisel_: I will download the file and see what happens here..16:57
chisel_thanks buddy i really appreciate the assist16:58
nerdy_kidgorgonizer hmm maybe im totatly messed up lol hey, thanks for your help man :)16:58
gorgonizernerdy_kid: always happy to help where I can..16:58
gorgonizerchisel_: did you download the Ubuntu executable?17:00
chisel_yes, the 9.04 link. but i'm running 9.10. will that be a problem?17:01
daskreechvbgunz: you said your weather symbol changed to a no smoking sign. It does that when I have no net17:03
daskreechkaddi: I like it a lot though there are quite a few Kubuntu Bugs and some Qt bugs that need sorting out17:03
gorgonizerchisel_: if you did, it has already been compiled for Ubuntu, and you should just be able to run the ysflight executable that would have been created.. however, for me, it fails to run.. giving error Cannot read AIM-9 pattern17:03
chisel_gorgonizer: i got the same message17:03
daskreechchisel_: What's the name of the flight sim?17:03
gorgonizerchisel_: you may need to get the Linux source and compile yourself, rather than use the precompiled version..17:04
chisel_daskreech: ysflight17:04
chisel_well phooey!!17:04
gorgonizerchisel_: will try here, if you like... to see if it works :)17:05
chisel_is there a kubuntu ver of a flight sim? i've tried flgiht gear but that one is faulty17:05
daskreechchisel_: You prefer Flight gear?17:06
WolfcastleI'm trying to downgrade from kde 4.4 to 4.3 so i tried to downgrade kdebase-runtime-bin-kde417:07
Wolfcastlebut this makes synaptic delete a lot of other packages as dependencies17:07
Wolfcastleany way to avoid this?17:07
chisel_not really. any working flight sim will blow my dress up.17:07
daskreechWolfcastle: the fastest way is to mv ~/.kde to a backup, Jump to a terminal and remove kdelibs517:07
daskreechthen remove the KDE 4.4 repos and install kubuntu-desktop from main17:08
daskreechchisel_: Not if they have a prop plane17:08
Wolfcastleok thanx daskreech17:08
daskreech!info flightgear17:08
ubottuflightgear (source: flightgear): Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.1-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2992 kB, installed size 7660 kB17:08
ubottuflightgear (source: flightgear): Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.1-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2992 kB, installed size 7660 kB17:09
chisel_daskreech: i'll be happy with props. most include a number of planes17:09
daskreechchisel_: I take it you installed that already ^^^17:09
Wolfcastledaskreech: removing kdelibs5 removes what seems to be the same packages as in my downgrade17:10
chisel_daskreech: yes i have. but i couldn't seem to program the keys or joystick. especially for rudder. i had to bounce off of the tower to achieve nose up attitude.17:10
vbgunzdaskreech: nah, I am connected right now to the net and still have a no smoking sign :/17:10
vbgunzI've had the no smoking sign on for 2 days now :/17:10
daskreechvbgunz: are you using the BBC provider?17:11
daskreechWolfcastle: it should remove all of KDE17:11
Wolfcastleok17:11
vbgunzdaskreech: one sec17:12
daskreechchisel_: Is there a ysflight file in the directory that you made?17:12
vbgunzNOAA17:12
chisel_daskreech: i'm an ubuntu noob so i don't really understand your question.17:13
chisel_daskreech: i extracted the tar.gz to desktop, and a similarly named folder was put there. if that answers your question17:14
daskreechchisel_: You got a tarball and untarred it? It made a directory right ?17:14
vbgunzdaskreech: hmm, doing a search for providers is case sensitive. also, florida doesn't find fl and fl doesn't find florida. its a pretty much exact search kind of thing, anyhow using NOAA as it seems to be the only one that provides the closest weather data in my area17:14
Dekkzterdaskreech: u dissapeared last night... can u help me today? :)17:15
vbgunzdaskreech: it appears I have the weather if I hover over the icon but I just don't have the image at a glance anymore. I did enable the 4.3.5 backports so could that have messed someting up?17:15
daskreechDekkzter: Sorry we had a city wide blackout17:16
daskreechDekkzter: I was looking for you after we got back power17:17
Dekkzterdaskreech: np.... just let me get back to where we were last night :)17:17
daskreechok17:17
Dekkzterdaskreech: had to go to bed... was getting up just a few hours later so17:17
vbgunzdaskreech: yeah, so I removed the weather applet completely and re-added it, configured it and still no image, just don't smoke :/17:17
daskreechvbgunz: KDE 4.3 ?17:18
vbgunzdaskreech: 4.3.517:19
daskreechDekkzter: sure get back to where we were and let me know where that is :)17:19
daskreechvbgunz: Yeah that should be fixed in KDE 4.417:19
vbgunztheres 2 widgets too. one is lcd and the other just forecast. the lcd shows the weather at least17:19
daskreechvbgunz: right :-)17:19
daskreechhi jo12317:20
daskreechhi jono17:20
jonohey daskreech :)17:20
daskreechhow goes it?17:20
vbgunzdaskreech: ok, so this is a known bug and will most likely make a fix at 4.4, good to know, thank you very much17:20
chisel_daskreech: did i answer your question sufficiently?17:21
Dekkzterdaskreech: ok.. done.... just sudo chroot /dev/mnt17:22
Dekkzterdaskreech: just did*17:23
Dekkzterdaskreech: and in /boot/grub is just lots of *fs_stage_5 and stage1 stage2 and menu.lst and device.map17:25
daskreechDekkzter: Great :)17:27
daskreechchisel_: hello?17:27
Dekkzterdaskreech: but no grub.cfg17:27
daskreechDekkzter: Woah chroot /dev/mnt ?17:28
daskreechwhat's ?17:28
Dekkzterdaskreech: you told me to do that yesterday17:28
Dekkzteror nope17:28
Dekkztersry17:28
Dekkzterwrote wrong17:28
Dekkzter /mnt/boot17:29
daskreechyou should bind /dev to /mnt/boot/dev ?17:29
Dekkzteryes17:29
Dekkzterand after that you told me to chroot /mnt/boot17:30
daskreechright cool17:30
Dekkzter:)17:30
Dekkzterso.. whats next step?17:31
daskreechDekkzter: do you have a /etc/default/grub in the chroot?17:31
Dekkzterdaskreech nope17:32
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kaddihi, i just upgraded to kde 4.4 and my old plasma-config crashes plasma-desktop on login. Is there a way to get my settings converted from kde 4.3 to kde 4.4 or should I redo all the settings by hand?17:32
daskreechDekkzter: Hmm can you run sudo update-grub ?17:34
daskreechkaddi: do you know which config is making it crash?17:34
Dekkzterdaskreech: yes... /boot/grub17:35
kaddidaskreech: not yet, i remove plasma-desktoprc and plasma-desktop-applet and now it's booting just fine. I can start taking out parts of the config and see when it boots, but I thought I'd ask if there is an easier way first17:35
Dekkzterdaskreech: there was some fails though.. failed to get security context of /tmp/filedaqXOY and /tmp/filejWE3NC17:36
kathrindaskreech: it's kaddi from a second pc. The problem seems to be plasma-desktop-appletsrc I restored that one andplasma started crashing again17:41
adi__hallo17:42
kathrinhi17:42
calderahi everyone17:43
wer-ist-rogerhej everyone. For about 1 1/2 day Compozite won't work anymore. Was there an update for xorg the last few days that could course the problem?17:44
kathrin!hi | caldera17:44
ubottucaldera: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!17:44
adi__please ,how can i configure pidgin to work with yahoo mess17:44
wer-ist-rogeradi_ you just have to put in your yahoo-account information17:45
adi__i add an ID17:45
adi__i allready do that17:45
adi__but dosen't work17:45
daskreechDekkzter: can You pastebin that?17:45
daskreechkathrin: Ok17:45
adi__i let pager server by default:scs.msg.yahoo.com17:46
wer-ist-rogeradi_: the config files for pidgin should be in ~/.purple rename this folder to .pidgin.old (just in case) and start with a "new" pidgin17:46
adi__pager server:cs.yahoo.co.jp17:46
Dekkzterdaskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/368995/17:46
adi__file port:8017:47
ubuntusomone know of any graphical ubuntu application to write Floppy images?17:47
adi__well...someone?17:49
kathrin!yahoo17:50
ubottuAt the moment there are many pidgin users experiencing problems connecting to Yahoo IM, you can try changing your paging server to cn.scs.msg.yahoo.com (port 5050) and see if that helps.17:50
kathrini'm not sure how up to date this info is, but it may be worth a try?17:50
daskreechadi__: What version of pidgin?17:50
adi__i ll try17:50
adi__wait17:50
daskreechDekkzter: Which version of Kubuntu are you installing ?17:51
Dekkzterdaskreech: 9,1017:51
daskreechk17:51
adi__connecting....nothing!17:51
adi__:-(17:51
daskreechDekkzter: sudo grub-install /dev/sda17:51
Dekkzterdaskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/369000/17:52
Dekkzterdaskreech: remember its a raid right?17:53
daskreechno ^_^17:53
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daskreech /dev/mapper/somethingsomethign ?17:54
Dekkzteryes..17:54
adi__wait17:54
Dekkzterdaskreech: /dev/mapper/pdc_bbaecicbbf17:54
adi__2.5.217:55
Dekkzterdaskreech: i guess sudo grub-install /dev/mapper/pdc_bbaecicbbf then17:57
adi__there is a solution? i have same touble with kopete17:57
howlymowlyhi guys...  is there any command in ubuntu to generate a new ~/.profile  for my home directory? i deleted it somehow...  i would like to have the generic one form my distribution17:58
kathrindaskreech: this was my old plasma-desktop-appletssrc: http://pastebin.com/f253e129b in case you wanna take a look17:58
adi__well...brothers..in ubuntu&stuff...i just disable &enabel account17:59
adi__and work just fine17:59
adi__uraaa17:59
adi__thanks a lot!17:59
daskreechDekkzter: yes18:00
daskreechadi__: Wheee ;)18:00
Dekkzterdaskreech: woohoo.. im learning :P18:00
daskreechhowlymowly: Did you modify it?18:00
daskreechhowlymowly: Oh never mind generic :)18:00
daskreechcp /etc/skel/.bash_profile ~18:00
adi__daskreech: thanks18:00
howlymowlydaskreech: is it the same thing, ubuntu does, when logging in as a new user for the first time?18:01
daskreechDekkzter: no errors/18:01
daskreech?18:01
Dekkzterhttp://pastebin.com/m7a126ab518:01
Dekkzter;/18:01
daskreechhowlymowly: yes18:02
howlymowlydaskreech: btw ...  is there a "first login script"  somewhere hiden in kubuntu?18:02
howlymowlywould just interest me to have a look on it18:03
daskreechDekkzter: ok let me refresh my head on how RAID works18:03
Dekkzterok18:03
Dekkztersure18:03
daskreechDekkzter: Can you pastebin ls /dev ?18:03
daskreechhowlymowly: I assume you mean somethign that runs the first time a user logs in?18:04
howlymowlyyeah18:04
howlymowlyright18:04
Dekkzterdaskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/369007/18:04
daskreechOnly if you install an OEM version of Ubuntu18:04
daskreechDekkzter: ls -l /dev/mapper ?18:05
howlymowlydaskreech: but how does that work when creating a new user in ubuntu.. i mean new users have all their configuration files already set up for them...18:05
Dekkzterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/369011/18:06
bittin i tried dd now will see if it works if it does i will write floppy #2 :18:06
daskreechhowlymowly: When you create a new user they get a ~ with the contents copied directly from /etc/skel18:06
howlymowlyahhh...  so thats how it works...   manymany thx for beeing so patient with me :)18:07
daskreechDekkzter: What level RAID are you running?18:08
Dekkzterdaskreech: can this be something? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136044518:08
Dekkzterdaskreech: raid 018:08
daskreech>_<18:08
tyhoi got a problem on a new kubuntu: i can't play audio cds... and can't open them with dolphin. it seems like this is a common problem with KDE. is there a way to fix it?18:08
daskreechDekkzter: jump into #grub2 and ask for help there. Known issues with installs on RAID 0 HW RAID with the Grub shipped in 9.1018:09
daskreechtyho: how are you opening them in Dolphin?18:09
Dekkzterdaskreech: ah.. ok... thx for the help though!18:09
Dekkzterdaskreech: only 1 other person there? :(18:10
daskreechDekkzter: That would probably be one of the issues.  I see you have multiple drives as well18:10
daskreechDekkzter: Whoops #grub18:10
Dekkztermultiple drives?18:10
Dekkzteryes.. i do have 4 drives... and 2 in raid..18:11
daskreechIs see /dev/sd[a-d]18:11
tyhodaskreech: when i put the cd in the drive, it suggests me to open it with amarok (which doesn't work) or open it in dolphin (which doesn't work either)18:11
Dekkzterdaskreech: why can that be a problem?18:11
daskreechtyho: if you open Dolphin and press Ctrl+L and type in audiocd:/ what does it do?18:11
kaddii thought amarok has no CD-support?18:11
Dekkzterdaskreech: did you look at the link i sent u?18:12
daskreechDekkzter: Grub should have a copy in each drive so if the first drive fails it will still start but in 9.10 it doesn't18:12
tyhoit says size: 0B18:12
daskreechSo that might be a problem18:12
Dekkzterdaskreech: ah ok18:12
daskreechtyho: Probably some conflict with the Physical CD Drive18:12
tyhoyeah but it's not empty... k3b shows me the tracks18:12
tyhobut i can't play them18:13
Mamarokkaddi: Amarok has CD support since 2.218:13
kaddiMamarok: good to know. Thanks :)18:13
Mamarokkaddi: just be aware of some ausiocd KIO problems that should be solved in 4.4 RC by now18:14
Mamarokaudiocd*18:14
Mamaroktyho: you can't play a CD with k3b18:14
tyhoi know -.-18:14
daskreechtyho: if you have mp3 support then k3b might be able to rip it18:14
tyhodaskreech: but i don't wanna rip it... i wanna play it but neither amarok nor vlc can do that18:15
tyhoand dolphin still says the disk is empty18:15
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tyhoother cds and dvds work perfectly, only audio cds don't work18:17
Dekkzterdaskreech: please take a look at this link and tell me if this gonna help me ;) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136044518:18
Dekkzterdaskreech: rebooting fast18:20
tyhoit seems like i'm not the only one with this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/47766718:22
Mamaroktyho: I am able to play CDs since 2.2.0, so I bet it is not Amarok related at all, there is at least one crash due to Phonon, and there are problems with the audiocd KIO slave solved in KDE 4.418:30
Mamarokand that particular bug is not Amarok related neither, looks more like a KDE or Kubuntu specific problem18:31
tyhoyeah that's what i thought18:31
tyhoas i said earlier "it seems to be a common problem with kde"18:32
MamarokI need to check other distros, but I think it is Kubuntu specific, haven't seen any reports from other dostributions so far18:34
tyhoi was just wondering if anybody heard of the problem and knows how to fix it... but i guess i'll just have to wait for the bug fix18:35
harjot__how would i make my microphone driver restart?18:37
harjot__its built in18:37
Mamaroktyho: in any case it's not something a user can fix18:38
Mamaroktyho: but if Amarok is already running it should work18:38
tyhoMamarok: yes but i guess i don't know enough about kubuntu to do so18:39
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harjot__how would i make my microphone restart?18:39
Mamaroktyho: and it should be fixed at the root of the problem, whihc is manyfold18:39
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Mamarokharjot__: you probably need to restart Phonon, e.g. restart KDE18:39
Mamarokharjot__: but first, you should give some more details about your sound settings18:39
harjot__alsa18:40
Mamarokharjot__: everybody uses also by default :)18:40
Mamarokharjot__: did it work beofre?18:40
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Mamarokbefore*18:40
harjot__yeah18:40
harjot__my microphone smetimes gets picked up and sometimes doesnt18:40
Mamarokharjot__: you should check the channels in KMix18:42
harjot__ok18:42
harjot__Mamarok: That was just my problem thanks!!!!18:43
kaddihow can i set up kde4.4 to use a different activity for every virtual desktop? I can't find the setting :s18:43
kaddiignore me, i'm just blind18:44
kaddiit's right where it used to be18:44
daskreechharjot__: modprobe -r it then modprobe it18:46
harjot__ok thanks18:46
Dekkzterdaskreech: did you look at the link i sent u?18:55
K350!flash19:01
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash19:01
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Guest37576hi all19:03
Guest37576i need help19:03
Guest37576hello ?19:03
kaddi!hi | Guest3757619:03
ubottuGuest37576: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!19:03
Guest37576hi all19:03
Guest37576i need help19:03
Guest37576anyone there19:04
kaddiwe can't help you unless you tell us what is wrong ;)19:04
Guest37576i need to know the following19:04
Guest37576i got a pc with lenny on it and need libc_2.10 ... how can i get it19:05
jtholmesbroadcom wireless card bcm4318 chip can scan, driver b43-fwcutter loads and all iwlist wlan2 scan returns 4 routers but card will not pull a dhcp address any ideas?19:05
kaddiGuest37576: lenni is a debian release, no? this is a kubuntu-support channel19:05
Guest37576maybe any ideas ?19:06
Guest37576and yes lenny is debian19:06
kaddiGuest37576: check out their packageslist maybe? http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=dpkg19:06
Ahox_Guest37576,  you can try to download it from a newer version and then try to install it by hand. However glibc could become difficult to do19:07
Guest37576only got command line19:07
kaddiuse lynx then?19:07
Guest37576k i will try thx19:07
howlymowlyhi guys.. is there a command to start the kde system monitor by console?19:10
kaddihowlymowly: if you are logged into ttyl you should be able to start the displaymanager with "startx" if you only want to restart kdm do a "sudo service kdm start"19:12
K350leave19:12
howlymowlykaddi: my problem is:  I have to use gnome on this computer but I find the kde systm monitor much more convenient..  and there is kde installed on this computer...19:13
howlymowly*system19:13
rorkhowlymowly: ksysguard19:14
howlymowlyahh thx  rork19:14
howlymowlybecause the gnome system monitor is just aweful19:14
kaddioh, sry, i overread "monitor" and thought you were trying to start "kde system"19:14
howlymowlydoes not even have a search feature19:14
howlymowlynp kaddi :)  you were very freindly, thats what counts :P19:15
daskreechDekkzter: yes19:15
daskreechhowlymowly: Features are evil and should be removed19:16
howlymowlywtf :)?19:17
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howlymowlyworks like a charm now :) in gnome with a little Ctrl + Esc shortcut in the gnome settings :D19:17
howlymowlyfeels almost like KDE19:18
kaddi:)19:18
daskreechhowlymowly: You shoudl feel blue then :)19:18
kaddihe, talking about blue, is there anyone that can suggest a nice green desktop-theme? all i've found s far were blue or black19:20
howlymowlyyeah.. its still lacking a blue backround though... that ugly brown...19:20
daskreechOrange now isn't it?19:20
daskreechkaddi: Looked on kde-look19:20
howlymowlyyeah...  picture seems like some kind of a human arm to me...19:21
howlymowlydaskreech ...19:21
kaddidaskreech: yes, but didn't really see anything. :s Green is not en mode right now :p19:21
daskreechhowlymowly: Well it _IS_ human :)19:21
howlymowlytry it out with suse :)19:21
daskreechkaddi: ask Suse :)19:21
kaddidaskreech: hehe, true. will do :D19:22
kaddii like the new kde 4.4 background though (and the viruses)19:22
kaddieven though it isn't green :D19:22
BluesKajkaddi, there's one called green and easy bespin , but it's a colour setting for your fav theme19:22
kaddiBluesKaj: checking it out now. :) Thx :)19:23
BluesKajnp :)19:23
daskreechkaddi: You can go into the color settings and tweak19:23
Duskaodoes anyone know of an app/widget like gnomes dockbar?19:25
Duskaofor kde19:25
kaddidaskreech: i know but i'm sadly ungifted when it comes to finding to colors that actually look well together. I rely mostly on others in that department ;)19:26
daskreech:-D19:26
daskreechDuskao: What's Dockbar do?19:34
Duskaowell, it's like a mix between an app launcher and dock. So it's basically launch icons on your bar, but with instance capabilities like a dock.19:36
Duskaohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiQq9kPsCQE&feature=related19:36
MamarokDuskao: the Panel?19:37
DuskaoI have an Ati card and I'm using kubuntu 9.10, every time I restart my computer my composition keeps going off. I'm using docky right now, so I'm trying to find non compositing alternatives.19:37
Duskaoyeah, from the panel, check the vid19:37
Duskaoseems like when I was using ubuntu, everything good was for kde, but now all of a sudden loads of stuff is comming out for gnome lol.19:38
Duskaoprefer kde though.19:38
MamarokDuskao: no, I really mean The Panel :) You can add pretty much what you want to it19:38
WaltzingAlongDuskao: ok19:38
WaltzingAlongwho is in charge of the topic? one can grab 4.3.5 from backports19:39
DuskaoMamarok, yeah, I know you can (sort of , still new to kde) but it doesn't have the abilitiy to remaximise without opening another instance of whatever app you are using.19:40
MamarokDuskao: well if the app is still running you don't have to19:41
MamarokDuskao: you should play around with the plasma widgets19:41
DuskaoMamarok: I have been.19:41
Mamarokwhat he demonstrates are actually icons in a panel, and he has a very fast computer that's why you think they don't open an app when clicking on the icon, but an application has to be opened anyway19:42
* Mamarok has had app icons in the panel since ever in KDE, or at least it seems so long19:43
DuskaoMamarok: I'm sorry, but you are mistaken... that is actually dockbar.19:44
Duskaoanyway, nevermind, I'll see if I can find something else.19:44
kaddiDuskao: maybe try out fancytasks, i believe it does launchers as well19:46
MamarokDuskao: well, could you find me some written description of what it actually does?19:46
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Duskaothanks kaddi I'll check it out.19:47
Duskaokaddi: would that be in kde-look? apps?19:47
MamarokDuskao: in kde-look.org19:48
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Mamarokkaddi: also there is kustodian in playground, no idea how far this is now19:52
Mamarokor if it just changed it's name19:53
kaddiMamarok: as a green desktop theme? or as a launcher-widget?19:53
Dekkzterdamnit... i get mad at this... i just cant get this grub thing to work.... anyone who has an idea how to get grub to start on a HW raid 0 ?? ;(19:54
Mamarokkaddi: I know of Daisy and Fancy Tasks, and the KDE launcher, all plasma widgets19:55
kaddiMamarok: I just wasn't sure if you were referring to the question i asked earlier or to the suggestion I made regarding fancy tasks ;) I'm currently happily running smooth tasks :)19:57
Duskaoyeah, I'm actually going to try smooth tasks now.19:58
Duskaoonce I set up the ppa and such.19:58
Duskaodaisy is neat19:58
Duskaoalso working on installing bespin19:59
dasen Hi guys are kde people interested in using this plasmoid http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586 to replace the current task-bar? (The new plasmoid is like windows 7 task bar)20:00
Duskaoonce I get it installed, I'll let you know.20:01
Mamarokdasen: you should ask KDE then20:02
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Mamarokdasen: in #kde20:02
Duskaogood piont20:02
zwakikushtiahi20:11
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zwakikushtiahi20:12
zwakikushtiai am new here20:12
Duskaohey20:12
zwakikushtiawana b a friend20:13
Duskaothis is a help forum. If you don't need help goto #kubuntu-offtopic20:13
zwakikushtiayes20:13
zwakikushtiai need to use emapthy as a vedio and voice chat soft20:14
zwakikushtiai need a soluation20:14
Duskaodo you use kubuntu or ubuntu?20:15
zwakikushtiaubuntu 9.1020:15
Duskaoempathy is a gnome app. Go to #ubuntu20:15
MamarokDuskao: please...?20:16
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DuskaoMamarok: it's a statement not a request20:16
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CyberSmythHello, who was just talking about a shader/bone issue?20:18
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CyberSmythanyone?20:20
Duskaonope, sorry20:21
CyberSmythMust have not been on this server...20:21
CyberSmythTrouble is the guy who was chatting about it has buggered off to play l4d20:21
CyberSmythand left me with half the info20:22
CyberSmyth:)20:22
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zwakikushtiawww.lawinbd.blogspot.com20:29
Tm_Tzwakikushtia: hm?20:31
Duskaozwakikushtia: ?????20:32
Mamarokzwakikushtia: please do not paste random links in a support channel20:35
zwakikushtiawhat???20:39
zwakikushtiaok20:39
zwakikushtiaits my mistake20:39
zwakikushtiai am very new here20:39
mudassarhow to convert a mpeg video from rgb to grayscale using ffmpeg ...?? (no one is answering at #ffmpeg20:42
mudassar)20:42
terran4000mudassar: -pix_fmt gray20:45
terran4000or so theory states20:46
terran4000mudassar: also I think -gray works20:47
mudassarterran4000: I did this ... ffmpeg -y -i L1R1.mpeg -pix_fmt gray -vcodec rawvideo L1R1_Gray.mpeg but it doesn't work fine ... gives messages like buffer underflow i=0 bufi=308180 size=308224, and packet too large, ignoring buffer limits to mux it and in the end the generated file doesn't run20:47
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terran4000eh, that I wouldn't know how to fix. Sorry. At this stage I'd just recommend Bing or Google :-P20:49
mudassarterran4000: I did alot ... but no result20:51
terran4000mudassar: give me a few minutes to see if I can dig something up20:53
mudassarterran4000: Actually I need to take one video and make two copies of that and then remove red channel of one and green channel of the other and then have to merge those two output videos into one to see the 3D effect :) can you help20:55
mudassar?20:55
terran4000for that I'd try cinelerra20:56
terran4000or one of those application things20:56
terran4000They've worked wonders before20:56
terran4000Though I could never get cinelerra to be stable for me T.T20:56
terran4000There is also a new-ish one: Lives? or something like that20:56
terran4000That's possibly good for that20:57
mudassari need to use ffmpeg or opencv20:57
josephwow, qwebirc giving problems?20:57
josephi'm a good boy :)20:57
josephwell, thanks for letting me in.  #web has anyone from qweb banned.20:58
terran4000mudassar: on your command line, is the vcodec supposed to be raw?20:58
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terran4000raw != mpeg20:58
mudassarthen what should I write ?20:59
mudassarI am new to ffmpeg20:59
terran4000try nothing :-P20:59
terran4000for fun, don't use vcodec20:59
terran4000if it complains that you need it, then we'll put other stuff20:59
mudassarok21:00
terran4000if you 'need' to use -vcodec, try -vcodec copy (possibly)21:00
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diogoboa noite..21:06
diogoalguem pode me ajudar com configuraç~ao do wirilles?21:06
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derekv10wow21:08
derekv10ñ_ñ21:08
dasendiogo: usas kubuntu ou ubuntu?21:13
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azteechanyone know if the backup tool in kubuntu will also back up the gnome essentials?21:26
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mudassarterran4000: nothing worked21:47
mudassarit didn't change to grayscale21:47
terran4000mudassar: yikes T.T bummers21:47
terran4000Well, you can always use Cinelerra and apply a grayscale filter :)21:47
ddjsera21:47
genii!it | ddj21:48
ubottuddj: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)21:48
mudassarterran4000: ffmpeg -y -i L1R1.mpeg -pix_fmt gray -vcodec copy L1R1_Gray.mpeg ... it didn't convert to grayscale21:48
ddjok thanks21:48
terran4000mudassar:21:48
diogoalguem pode me ajudar na configuraçao do wirilles no ubunto 9.10?21:48
terran4000instead of -pix_fmt gray21:48
terran4000try21:48
terran4000just -gray21:48
genii!es | diogo21:49
ubottudiogo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:49
Kunbuntuthis room looks familar21:49
mudassarterran4000: it doesn't accept -gray21:49
KunbuntuWhat program do you all use for Authoritative DNS Servers and on what port for full compatibility with the rest of the 4389 dns servers on the planet?21:50
terran4000mudassar: huh ... interesting21:50
terran4000mudassar: in that case, I honestly don't know. Like I said, try using a video editing program like KDEnLive, LIVES, Cinerella or the like21:51
Kunbuntuwhere did muchmusic go?21:51
terran4000Those would be your best bet at this moment21:51
Kunbuntuit was their a minute ago21:51
jimmy51_hello, i've got 9.10 installed.  how do i make set it up so another 9.10 workstation can RDP (or equivalent) into it?21:51
KunbuntuI swear to god it was21:51
mudassarterran4000: I need to do the thesis task, and I have to stick to ffmpeg21:51
KunbuntuChrist almighty anyone here not a complete fucking idiot21:51
macoKunbuntu: watch your mouth21:52
Kunbuntuthanks india21:52
KunbuntuI will keep that in mind21:52
terran4000mudassar: ek, thesis (I'm stuck with a similar problem)21:52
terran4000hm21:52
Kunbuntufuck kpackys their all the same21:52
terran4000mudassar: After I'm done with this article I'll try to research it a bit more for ya21:52
macotsimpson: thanks21:53
TabmowIs there any reason why a VNC connection to my box would display awful graphics?21:53
macobandwidth?21:54
mudassarwhy this crap ffmpeg doesn't work fine ?21:54
Tabmowmaco: as in the graphics are all skewed etc.21:54
macooh. mm dunno21:54
macothought maybe you meant like artifacts / low res21:55
jimmy51_i VPN in from home and would like to control my work machine from my home machine.  how do i set that up?21:55
jimmy51_both are running kubuntu 9.10.21:55
Koliadarn21:55
Koliai still can't launch strigi :/21:55
Tabmowjimmy51_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25944821:56
jimmy51_Tabmow: is that current?  the date says 200621:57
Tabmowjimmy51_: should still work...21:59
jimmy51_ok21:59
jimmy51_thanks21:59
* jimmy51_ heads home and hopes he can vnc in tomorrow due to the snow22:00
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kamarohalooo22:24
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rosco_yHow can I find my Pidgin "Buddy List"?  I've got a conversation open, and I 'x'd the buddy list, and now I can't find it....22:28
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anon__hello22:31
anon__where are the ops at?22:32
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rosco_yDoes anyone know how I can find my Pidgin "Buddy List"?  I've got a conversation open, and I 'x'd the buddy list, and now I can't find it....22:33
MHz128hiya23:11
MHz128After selecting a different Desktop Theme, I am unable to click 'apply' and the theme remains unchanged. what gives?23:11
MHz128Also, when triggering gnome-do with a keybind, it only works when the desktop is visible, and no windows are showing... any ideas?23:12
Benkinoobyhi, this http://yfrog.com/juscreenshotlmp is my current partitioning. due to the fact that i use my kubuntu more & more i want to shrink the other partitions to get more space for my linux. is it possible to resize a primary partition and give the pace to a logical partition (wich is part of an extended partition?)?23:26
Benkinoobyhi, this http://yfrog.com/juscreenshotlmp is my current partitioning. due to the fact that i use my kubuntu more & more i want to shrink the other partitions to get more space for my linux. is it possible to resize a primary partition and give the pace to a logical partition (wich is part of an extended partition?)?23:37
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Chr1zIn KUbuntu where how do I view and modify the list of services that automatically start during bootup?23:53

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