[00:00] <godbyk> Hmm.. let's take a look.
[00:03] <godbyk> http://kevin.godby.org/private/ubuntu-manual/main.pdf
[00:11] <humphreybc> what do you think?'
[00:14] <godbyk> Hmm..
[00:15] <godbyk> I like the subsection names -- they're more in line with answering the 'how do I...?' questions.
[00:16] <godbyk> I need to reformat the TOC sometime, but I do like the added level of headings.
[00:16] <humphreybc> yeah
[00:16] <humphreybc> okay cool
[00:16] <humphreybc> well when you're ready push through the changes. don't forget to pull my latest revision tho!
[00:16] <godbyk> (I think they'll be more useful to people than the more generic section headings)
[00:16] <godbyk> will do.
[00:19] <godbyk> gah.. merging sucks.
[00:19] <godbyk> okay, should be pushed now.
[00:19] <godbyk> hope I didn't hork anyone else's stuff in the merge.
[00:23] <humphreybc> haha
[00:23] <humphreybc> nope it looks okay
[00:23] <humphreybc> wow
[00:23] <humphreybc> 70 pages now
[00:23] <humphreybc> I won't be surprised if the final publication is 150 pages
[00:28] <godbyk> keep in mind we haven't included any screenshots at all yet.
[00:28] <godbyk> they'll take up a lot of space.
[00:32] <humphreybc> yup i know
[00:32] <humphreybc> so maybe even 200 pages
[00:32] <humphreybc> eek
[00:32] <humphreybc> so much for 50!
[06:30] <vish> godbyk: use olive , rather than the terminal , merging is fun with that ;)
[06:31] <godbyk> heh
[06:31] <godbyk> nothing is labeled in olve..
[06:31] <godbyk> the toolbar buttons all look the same, no labels, no tooltips.
[06:31] <godbyk> I gave up. :-)
[06:32] <vish> godbyk: yeah , initially it seems a bit weird , but for me it was easier than typing commands in the terminal ;p
[06:32] <vish> godbyk: but now it does have labels , or maybe because i use text below labels option
[06:33] <vish> text below icons*
[06:33] <godbyk> ah, I don't use that option.
[06:33] <godbyk> and when I hovered the mouse over the toolbar buttons, there were no tool tips.
[06:34] <vish> yeah , thats bad... :/
[06:43] <IlyaHaykinson_> ianto: ping
[10:18] <humphreybc> thorwil: ping
[10:19] <thorwil> humphreybc: pong
[10:19] <humphreybc> how's it going?
[10:20] <humphreybc> I just wanted to let you know that the "Artwork" page of the wiki is now the design team's sandpit. Also, have you been working on a revised title page with the new name?
[10:21] <thorwil> humphreybc: i asked vish to put the new title on his design. it might already be in place
[10:21] <humphreybc> cool
[10:21] <humphreybc> you could probably clean up the artwork page somewhat
[10:21] <humphreybc> perhaps move all of the previous submissions to a subpage
[11:04] <thorwil> humphreybc: what's the reasoning behind "Version 0.1 development-release January 2010"
[11:04] <thorwil> ?
[11:04] <humphreybc> it's the release of our manual
[11:05] <humphreybc> 0.3 is the alpha release
[11:05] <humphreybc> 0.6 is beta, 0.9 is RC and 1.0 is final
[11:05] <thorwil> humphreybc: it's long and unnecessarily technical
[11:05] <humphreybc> we could drop the development release part
[11:05] <thorwil> humphreybc: at least the "development release" should go
[11:05] <thorwil> heh
[11:05] <humphreybc> there we go :)
[11:07] <thorwil> our audience is unlikely to know about the 1.0 scheme, but it is nice to have something that marks pre 1.0 as incomplete
[11:07] <humphreybc> yeah it's not really for them
[11:08] <humphreybc> it's for us :)
[11:08] <humphreybc> that's why it should be small, and it probably doesn't even need to be on the cover
[11:09] <thorwil> humphreybc: if there will be something like a 1.1, it needs to be indicated on the cover
[11:09] <humphreybc> i guess we'll just see how we go
[11:09] <humphreybc> there shouldn't be a 1.1
[11:09] <humphreybc> in theory
[11:10] <thorwil> humphreybc: i propose: nothing on the 1.0 cover. a "2nd edition" on a 1.1, if the need arises. and so on
[11:10] <humphreybc> sounds like a plan
[11:10] <thorwil> good. i'll put that on my design specification
[13:32] <thorwil> why does the wiki have to be so  s l o w
[13:53] <thorwil> vish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/Artwork
[14:08] <vish> thorwil: neat.. I'll read it fully soonish
[22:25] <dutchie> godbyk: http://pastebin.com/fdb4b2b
[22:26] <godbyk> You have to escape the # signs. Use \#
[22:26] <dutchie> not my change
[22:26] <dutchie> but I will fix
[22:26] <godbyk> though if it's a url, you should put it in \url{http://...}
[22:27] <godbyk> yeah, I've had to fix some things to get it to compile, too.  we should have people run 'make' before committing.
[22:27] <godbyk> just to make sure everything works first.
[22:27] <dutchie> I can't even see what file it's in
[22:27]  * dutchie resorts to grep
[22:29] <dutchie> wow, up to rev 200
[22:29] <dutchie> rev 200
[22:30] <dutchie> r200
[22:30] <godbyk> looks like security/security.tex
[22:30] <dutchie> rev 200
[22:30] <manualbot> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/revision/200 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual -r 200
[22:30] <dutchie> :)
[22:31] <godbyk> nice
[22:32] <dutchie> ooh, it connects over ipv6 too