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| noway2 | To those on the east (US) coast, are you ready for the snow storm? | 21:55 |
| * persia points at #ubuntu-offtopic | 21:56 | |
| noway2 | Yes, off topic, but its a few minutes till meeting start. Everyone is so quiet today. | 21:58 |
| ScottK | Lack of off topic chatter does not make other off topic chatter OK. | 22:00 |
| bapoumba | bodhi_zazen: shall we wait for Ryan and Matthew ? | 22:06 |
| bapoumba | Technoviking: ? | 22:06 |
| bodhi_zazen | Technoviking: poke | 22:07 |
| bodhi_zazen | jdong: poke | 22:07 |
| jdong | bodhi_zazen: Grabbing food. 10 mins | 22:07 |
| bodhi_zazen | thanks jdong | 22:07 |
| jdong | But im on my phone and can see the meeting :) | 22:07 |
| bodhi_zazen | 'lo bapoumba | 22:07 |
| bapoumba | jdong: do not eat and talk at the same time please :p | 22:07 |
| bapoumba | hello bodhi_zazen :) | 22:08 |
| bapoumba | ping ArtificialIntell | 22:08 |
| Joeb454 | jdong: at least, not with your mouth full ;) | 22:08 |
| ArtificialIntell | I'm here | 22:08 |
| bapoumba | hey :) | 22:08 |
| bodhi_zazen | 'lo ArtificialIntell =) | 22:09 |
| cariboo907 | Didin't I see something in staff chatter the TV wasn | 22:09 |
| bapoumba | Is AI's point the only one for the meeting, bodhi_zazen ? | 22:09 |
| cariboo907 | wasn't going to make it to the meeting? | 22:10 |
| bodhi_zazen | I think so, unless we wish to discuss the member I temp banned ? | 22:10 |
| bapoumba | cariboo907: yes, he mailed the FC too, thanks :) | 22:11 |
| bapoumba | bodhi_zazen: I do not think he is around :) | 22:11 |
| bapoumba | we should have him here | 22:11 |
| bodhi_zazen | +1 bapoumba | 22:12 |
| bapoumba | AI, do you wish to talk about your proposal ? | 22:12 |
| ArtificialIntell | Aye | 22:12 |
| ArtificialIntell | I don't know if everyone read the link I provided? | 22:13 |
| ArtificialIntell | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda | 22:13 |
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| ArtificialIntell | When the council is ready, I'll make my proposal. | 22:14 |
| bapoumba | I'm ready :) | 22:15 |
| bapoumba | (is there another meeting after us ?) | 22:15 |
| bapoumba | bodhi_zazen: are you ready ? | 22:18 |
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| jdong | ok I'm good :) | 22:19 |
| bapoumba | OK, that's 3 of us, shall we proceed ? | 22:20 |
| bodhi_zazen | yep | 22:20 |
| bapoumba | cool, AI, you're on :) | 22:20 |
| ArtificialIntell | ok, thanks. | 22:21 |
| ArtificialIntell | My proposal regading the UF game forum. As you may know I spend a lot of time moderating and reading the game forum, so I have made some observations. | 22:22 |
| ArtificialIntell | One of the things; it's hard for the users to find linux related stuff/games for linux/ubuntu due to the heavy posts about non-linux games. | 22:24 |
| ArtificialIntell | A lot of of posts are related to wine or emulators which are ruining the game forum. | 22:25 |
| bapoumba | Should not these posts be moved to the WINE forum ? | 22:26 |
| ArtificialIntell | One of the problem was partly solved by making a forum for wine, but it haven't made my job easier though, as a lot of threads I have to move/delete | 22:27 |
| ArtificialIntell | People simple don't reads stickies :-P | 22:27 |
| bapoumba | Maybe we should update the description of the WINE forum | 22:28 |
| bapoumba | and of the game section as well ? | 22:28 |
| ArtificialIntell | An option could be "Linux Game" with sub "Native game only" | 22:28 |
| bodhi_zazen | I have always found wine questions difficult as there is a ton of variability across various versions of wine, although I have not used wine in a while | 22:29 |
| bapoumba | Would changing Gaming & Leasure to Linux Games make iy better for you, AI ? | 22:29 |
| ArtificialIntell | But my original idea was moving wine as a sub to game forum plus making a sub for for emulators of all kind | 22:29 |
| bodhi_zazen | configuring wine + apps (games) is a whole art to itself ;P | 22:29 |
| bapoumba | or Native Linux Games ? | 22:30 |
| bapoumba | and everything else pushed to WINE ? | 22:30 |
| bodhi_zazen | I am neutral on the issue, but I would support what you feel would be easiest, but I see a lot of continued thread moving =( | 22:30 |
| ArtificialIntell | People would scream if we put everything else in wine | 22:31 |
| bapoumba | okay | 22:31 |
| bapoumba | we try to keep the number of section as lox as possible | 22:31 |
| bapoumba | the structure is already quite complicated .. | 22:31 |
| ArtificialIntell | When we're talking emulators it's c64/PSP/Wii/nintendo etc. | 22:32 |
| jdong | I side with bodhi_zazen on this.... AI, you're the one that's the most experienced with this and I'll trust your judgement | 22:32 |
| jdong | but from my experience it won't solve any of the thread-moving issues | 22:32 |
| ArtificialIntell | I know, but moving wine from frontpage to sub might uncluttering the frontpage a bit | 22:33 |
| bapoumba | wine is not only for games, is it ? | 22:33 |
| ArtificialIntell | People are complaining that native gaming on linux are drowning in emulators/wine/etc | 22:34 |
| bapoumba | SO what about changing Gmaing & Leasure > Native Linux Games ? | 22:34 |
| ArtificialIntell | aye, bapoumba, but 99% of the question is about gaming with wine | 22:34 |
| bapoumba | okay | 22:35 |
| ArtificialIntell | o should I say I"How do I WoW" LOL :-P | 22:35 |
| ArtificialIntell | It drove Hika insane I recallled :D | 22:36 |
| bapoumba | Eheh :) | 22:36 |
| bodhi_zazen | How about a sub section of Linux Native games ? | 22:36 |
| ArtificialIntell | Bapoumba, it still doesn't solve the emulator issue | 22:37 |
| bodhi_zazen | rather then splitting off wine ? | 22:37 |
| ArtificialIntell | What do you mean? | 22:37 |
| bodhi_zazen | I agree, since most games requiring support are going to be Windows running on Wine ... | 22:37 |
| bodhi_zazen | So, why not make a linux native gaming section for the linux native games and leave the current section as is ? | 22:38 |
| bapoumba | bodhi_zazen: you mean, top forum = Native Linux Games, Sub forum : Wine and emulators ? | 22:38 |
| bodhi_zazen | Just the opposite bapoumba , top forum = games (which implies wine) Sub Forum Linux native | 22:38 |
| bapoumba | okay, better :) | 22:39 |
| bodhi_zazen | Do we get that much traffic for linux native games ? I would guess not | 22:39 |
| ArtificialIntell | Most traffic is emulators/wine | 22:39 |
| bapoumba | and people who wish to concentrate on native linux games will be able to :) | 22:40 |
| bodhi_zazen | ArtificialIntell: is most of your work moving threads involve moving wine questions to the wine section ? | 22:40 |
| bodhi_zazen | would it help to just "give up" and allow people to default to wine then, with a linux native sub forum ? | 22:41 |
| ArtificialIntell | aye, because people can't find wine forum | 22:41 |
| bodhi_zazen | hopefully you would then move less threads | 22:41 |
| bodhi_zazen | So, do away with wine forum, make game implicit games + wine with a sub section for linux native games ? | 22:42 |
| ArtificialIntell | Ney, Bodhi. We'll have 16 new thtreads each day on "How do I WoW" | 22:42 |
| ArtificialIntell | in the gaming forum | 22:42 |
| bodhi_zazen | What is wrong with that, give the gaming forum to wine rather then having to move threads ? | 22:43 |
| ArtificialIntell | and the logical perspective as a ubuntu/linux forum to have a forum for native game IMO | 22:43 |
| bodhi_zazen | I agree with the logic, but in practice since most questions stem from wine, and you are having to move threads , I am wondering if a linux native section would make it any easier | 22:44 |
| bapoumba | Yes, change Gaming for Native Linux Games, and WINE to WINE & Emulators ? | 22:45 |
| ArtificialIntell | Well, yes if the two subs is added | 22:45 |
| bapoumba | Why make subs ? | 22:46 |
| bodhi_zazen | Considering what has been discussed, What would make your life easier ArtificialIntell ? | 22:46 |
| bapoumba | Change Gaming > Native Linux Games and change Wine > Wine and emulators ? | 22:46 |
| bodhi_zazen | Forum - Windows games | 22:46 |
| bodhi_zazen | Forums - Linux games | 22:47 |
| bodhi_zazen | leave wine out of the title ? | 22:47 |
| bodhi_zazen | s/gaming/Linux games | 22:47 |
| bodhi_zazen | s/wine/windows games | 22:47 |
| ArtificialIntell | Game forum with two subs. One for Wine and one for Emulators. People can't avoid to see the two subs and it will make it a lot easier for people to search for the informations they are lokking for | 22:47 |
| bodhi_zazen | OK, what emulators are there other then wine ? | 22:48 |
| jdong | Linux games and non-native games I think is more clear of a divide... | 22:48 |
| jdong | there's a lot of platform emulators | 22:48 |
| jdong | like for the PSP, NES, and so on | 22:48 |
| ArtificialIntell | most be around 20 emulators or so | 22:49 |
| noway2 | It seems like one of the big concerns is keeping wine separate from native linux. | 22:49 |
| ArtificialIntell | Aye, though I like to put things in the right boxes :-P | 22:50 |
| ArtificialIntell | (and spambot hunting) | 22:51 |
| noway2 | the proposal for having wine + emulators and native linux games seems reasonable to me. | 22:51 |
| ArtificialIntell | I could live with that. 1 for native and one for non-native | 22:52 |
| bodhi_zazen | \o/ | 22:53 |
| jdong | *nods* sounds great to me :) | 22:53 |
| bodhi_zazen | Thank you for you work on that ArtificialIntell | 22:53 |
| bapoumba | +1 | 22:54 |
| ArtificialIntell | my pleasure ^_^ | 22:54 |
| ArtificialIntell | I don't have more to add. | 22:55 |
| bodhi_zazen | Any other agenda items ? | 22:56 |
| bapoumba | not that I know of | 22:56 |
| bodhi_zazen | Otherwise we are waiting to see if any other FC members have issues | 22:56 |
| jdong | I can't think of anything | 22:56 |
| noway2 | I had a similar topic as AI's but this meeting is running long, so I will put it on the agenda for next month. | 22:56 |
| bapoumba | maybe we should continue the discussion on the ml ? | 22:56 |
| bapoumba | to get everyone's input ? | 22:57 |
| bapoumba | hey tseliot :) | 22:57 |
| jdong | sounds like a good idea | 22:57 |
| jdong | I don't expect there to be any disagreements but it's good to get everyone's input | 22:57 |
| bapoumba | okay, I'll post it on the ml, unless someone else wants to do it ? | 22:59 |
| bodhi_zazen | thank bapoumba , I was just about to ask that =) | 22:59 |
| bapoumba | welcome :) | 23:00 |
| bapoumba | time to go to bed, it's midnight here :) | 23:00 |
| ArtificialIntell | same here 00:00 | 23:00 |
| tseliot | hey bapoumba | 23:02 |
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