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geo	ardchoille: All i know is newer intel (only info given is accellerated graphics HD,no model) on a i3 set	00:00
bawtboi	hi. im running wordpress on localhost and i cant upload new theme packages over permission problem. then i set the folder access to 777 and now wordpress ask me on FTP login information. I dont know what's wrong	00:00
reaktae	Customizing a LiveCD, I can't figure out how to edit/disable the boot menu. Could somebody share some information on this?	00:00
ardchoille	geo: ok, I don't know much about intel cards	00:01
toastedmilk	I'm getting fglrxinfo and glxinfo errors with Radeon X1900, amd64, nothing in the forums seems to be working, how can I fix this?	00:02
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ardchoille	geo: Have you tried the ubuntu forums?	00:02
geo	unixalot u still there?	00:02
geo	ardchoille yeah but was hoping this would be faster	00:03
unixalot	geo: ye man, just doing some googlin	00:03
geo	unixalot kk np :p	00:03
ardchoille	geo: Usually this is faster, but the forums are a great resource	00:03
LiveCDtrouble	preferably from the chroot environment	00:04
geo	ardchoille already googled and searched forums for similiar issue's on intel caards	00:04
geo	and no luck	00:04
yoh_	hey guys... went to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but it's nowhere to be found in 9.10. any ideas where i can edit the grub boot menu?	00:04
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unixalot	geo: whats wrong with the vesa drivers they just suck?? so you want the old ones eh?	00:04
geo	unixalot: Idk but i can't get more resolutions, or desktop effects...	00:04
toastedmilk	geo: whatever you do, don't get a legacy ATI card...	00:05
unixalot	geo: yeah, see i have a guide. just one more sec	00:05
geo	unixalot: when running compiz --replace / --enable i get no whitlisted driver and a bunch of other bs	00:05
NET\|\|abuse	IdleOne, if you fancy another stab at my scenario, I have advanced my situation, the broadcom STA driver is installed and shows up in device driver thingy	00:05
Losha	!grub2 \| yoh	00:05
ubottu	yoh: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2	00:05
unixalot	geo: yeah like you cant enable desktop effects, i understand	00:05
unixalot	geo: just finding some repo's	00:05
geo	unixalot: kk	00:06
NET\|\|abuse	IdleOne, in command line i do iwconfig, eth5 has wifi bindings, sudo iwlist eth5 scanning and i see the big list o' networks here,,,, network-manager seems to be the problem.	00:06
unixalot	geo: aite man	00:06
unixalot	geo: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/reverting-xorg-video-intel-driver-of.html	00:06
LiveCDtrouble	yoh_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1278577	00:06
grace_	still can't open firefox.. is ubuntu still under repair?	00:06
unixalot	geo: they are jaunty sources but thats because you want the jaunty drivers,	00:06
NET\|\|abuse	IdleOne, in network manager the wireless is listed as disabled.	00:06
ballongen	why can´t i connect to my ubuntu ssh server with winscp or nomachinenx, when i can connect with putty?	00:07
yoh_	thanks Losha , LiveCDtrouble	00:07
geo	unixalot: Okay, but i installed xorg-video-intel-driver when i updated. How come i can't use them?	00:07
LiveCDtrouble	anybody familiar with customizing the livecd? in particular, the "F2" boot menu editing within chroot...	00:07
unixalot	geo: these are the 2.4 drivers	00:07
NET\|\|abuse	IdleOne, right clicking on the nm-applet and looking at the Enable Networking and Enable Wireless checkboxes, the Wireless one is greyed out.	00:07
unixalot	geo: and you have to do all that then go in synaptic and type in xorg-video	00:08
unixalot	geo: then use the 2.4	00:08
unixalot	geo: were you trying to change it threw the xorg.conf?	00:08
geo	unixalot: no..	00:09
geo	unixalot: i just dnt understand why its using vesa rather than the intel drivers that installed	00:09
sanguisdex	so ubuntiu recently upgraded apachee and now I can tuse php due to a quarter meg memry limit, but I have given it 120mb os limit in the ini file anu one else know where I would be having a problem?	00:10
unixalot	geo: so in synaptic the intel 2.4 drivers is already installed??	00:11
unixalot	without repo's?	00:11
Losha	Alumin: are you still there?	00:11
geo	unixalot: Idk, it says intel ones are........let me see	00:11
ubuntu	Help! After a hibernation Ubuntu won't boot and it drops to busybox. I put a lot of work in getting it to work the way I want. Can anyone help me to get it going? I am booted off the live cd right now.	00:12
geo	says xserver-xorg-video-intel is	00:12
Alumin	yes...kinda afk (on a call, hehe) but I'm watching my highlights :)	00:12
geo	unixalot: no version though. just installed 2.4 ones from directions so gonna reboot and see how it go's	00:13
unixalot	geo: hopefully that works better, do a glx gears you should get a lot more fps	00:14
NET\|\|abuse	why can't network-manager access my wifi? bcm4328. it's there, command line iwlist eth5 scanning shows networks,, but nm-applet won't let me tick Enable Wireless ???	00:14
unixalot	depending on your fx card	00:14
faultyground	Alright, so I'm trying to cleanup my shortcuts a bit... Where would I find the folder with my Applications menu in it so I can group things up differently?	00:15
unixalot	faultyground: in the applicatins menu?	00:15
unixalot	faultyground: do you want the directory??	00:15
Losha	Alumin: ok, the scripts in /etc/rc?.d should give you a fair idea of what gets started at what runlevel. I think the default runlevel is 2, depending on your release...	00:15
x404x	what program can be used for voice activated recording ? I tryed audacity but it keeps crashing on me	00:15
faultyground	unixalot: thats what I was going for, yeah	00:16
unixalot	faultyground: might be in /usr/bin	00:16
Random832	faultyground; it's an xml file - there's a gui editor if you right click on the menu	00:18
MenZa	How can I change the hostname of my machine?	00:18
unop	!hostname	00:19
ubottu	Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.	00:19
MenZa	unop: That's what I thought; but /etc/hostname doesn't exist	00:19
unop	MenZa, that's weird - you can create it	00:19
MenZa	unop: Just did. Thanks.	00:20
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Jef91	Is there a way I can set an ext4 file system so anyone can read/write to it?	00:20
Jef91	I have an ext4 external hard drive that i keep having to chown when I connect it to a different system	00:21
greezmunkey	ubuntu is more fun than a barrel full of munkeys :)	00:22
grndslm	Jef91: sudo chown user:user -R /media/disk/	00:22
grndslm	.. or if you just want to allow everyone permission on the disk... sudo chmod 777 -R /media/disk	00:22
Jef91	grndslm and that won't over write the user from my other computer?	00:22
grndslm	go with the chmod	00:22
Jef91	thanks yea	00:22
Jef91	chown is what I had been doing	00:23
Jef91	every time I connect it	00:23
grndslm	right chmod is it.. dunno if you want 777 for all files, tho	00:23
Jef91	grndslm Yes I do, just movies and my Steam games backup	00:24
NET\|\|abuse	i'm at my witt's end here,, why does nm-applet / network manager not understand my wireless ? Using standard bcm4328 with STA driver, it knows eth5 is a wifi card, it just greys out the Enable Wireless option??	00:24
archboxman	NET\|\|abuse: I was not yesterday was I	00:25
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: Is there a physical switch for your wifi?	00:25
NET\|\|abuse	archboxman, sorry?	00:25
Jef91	NET\|\|abuse - what Ubuntu version?	00:25
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, yes, there is but it is on,, I have been putting up with this problem for 3 weeks.	00:25
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: What ubuntu do you use?	00:26
NET\|\|abuse	unimatrix, it flaked out about a moth ago, i have tried on an off to re-install all drivers, tried fwcutter, everything, nm-applet will not let me enable wireless,, on command line i can do iwlist eth5 scanning and i see all the networks around	00:26
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, Jef91 karmic	00:26
archboxman	NET\|\|abuse: Does the SAT driver work??? I helped a person with a dell netbook with the same wifi card built in does that work for you card???	00:26
NET\|\|abuse	archboxman, what is SAT?	00:27
archboxman	NET\|\|abuse: meant STA broadcom driver does it work???	00:27
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: can you paste the results of lspci	00:27
NET\|\|abuse	archboxman, this is latitude d630 with bcm4328 rev 03, i am using the STA right now and with that i can iwlist eth5 scanning.	00:28
fbc-mx	help! How do I move my home directory to a new machine? I tried a live CD but I can't copy folders that I don't have permission to in my home dir.	00:28
unixalot	have you tried like ifconfig down, then up?? lol	00:28
unixalot	Mine was doing this a long time ago but i forget how i fixed it, I think it was physically switched off	00:28
panfist	is debian only insecure because it's not as updated or through some other flaw? do you have a citation?	00:29
amagee	can i make a particular command that normally requires root (eg. apache2ctl) runnable by a particular non-root user, without asking for a password?	00:29
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, this is not physically switched off, i have even demanded a new card from dell which they delivered today, i've switched it back and forward 4 times and no change, the physical switch is definately NOT switched off	00:29
Jef91	amagee - yes but it is not recommended	00:29
panfist	nevermind	00:29
amagee	Jef91: meh.. how do i do it?	00:29
greezmunkey	NET\|\|abuse, I found a tip that worked for me. Edit /etc/network/interfaces - Comment out the line "auto lo", and any other lines that include interfaces that you want NM to "manage" once done sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, and try again.	00:30
m3rc	If my nic is using the wrong driver, how do I get it to use a different one afer I modprobe the driver?	00:30
archboxman	NET\|\|abuse: I now there was other driver available a BSQ I beleibe it was also would work with the same wifi card is there a other option for driver in system > administation > hardware drivers???	00:30
Jef91	Amagee - I don't recall off hand, let me look up how I did it searches for the thread	00:30
amagee	ok thanks	00:30
Oli``	m3rc: rmmod the wrong one first, then modprobe the right one	00:30
NET\|\|abuse	archboxman, no, the admin->hardware drivers only shows the STA as an option.	00:30
bastidrazor	NET\|\|abuse: possibly nm-applet is looking for a wlan0 before allowing you to enable wireless.. how to change eth5 to wlan0 that i don't know though.	00:30
Oli``	m3rc: then blacklist the wrong one to stop it loading on boot	00:31
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: alright, what about your users	00:31
m3rc	Oli``: did those but it's not associating the new driver with the nic	00:31
unixalot	Like	00:31
NET\|\|abuse	bastidrazor, that's just weird. ..	00:31
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: have you tried to sudo nm	00:31
Jef91	amagee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1148021&highlight=root - let me know if you need anything there cleared up	00:31
NET\|\|abuse	unimatrix, will try sudo nm- now one sec.	00:32
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: my advice would be install bum(boot up manager) from synaptic and enable policy kit	00:32
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: have you tried enable policy kit	00:32
unimatrix	NET\|\|abuse: i believe you mean "unixalot"	00:32
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IdleOne	NET\|\|abuse: you could try installing wicd I have seen a lot of people in here with wifi issues and after installing wicd the problem seems resolved.	00:32
Carlis	hi	00:32
greezmunkey	NET\|\|abuse, you can monitor what NM is doing... tail -f /var/log/syslog :)	00:32
Carlis	How do i do to open office to check the spanish words ?	00:33
unixalot	unimatrix: lol, it happens all the time..	00:33
_Tristan	my new ubuntu installation doesn't offer to connect to my wireless internet.	00:33
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, tried sudo nm-applet, no joy.	00:33
nyc_student	sup	00:33
Jef91	_Tristan What wifi card?	00:33
Carlis	How do i do to open office to check the spanish words ?	00:33
amagee	Jef91: when i clicked that link, my computer spontaneously logged out of X :S .. trying again	00:33
Jef91	amagee - lol kk	00:33
_Tristan	Jef91: I don't know. It works with the installation of the same os/version on another partition.	00:33
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: i would try the bum, and enable policy kit, when that work, or doesnt work i recomment creating a new userand trying nm	00:33
Carlis	How do i do to open office to check the spanish words ?	00:34
amagee	Jef91: yeah that seems to be exactly what i want, thanks	00:34
Jef91	_Tristan Does ifconfig in terminal list the card?	00:34
Jef91	amagee - np	00:34
toastedmilk	Does anyone know the terminal command(apt, perhaps) to see if I have fglrx packages installed?	00:34
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, it's weird as this behaviour occured a while back, i re-seated the ahrdware, and it worked again for 3 days, then it failed again.	00:34
Carlis	How do i do to open office to check the spanish words ?	00:34
Jef91	Carlis - is your default Ubuntu language spanish?	00:34
greezmunkey	IdleOne, I used to advise that myself, but I have reconsidered. I have NM working on this box, with on demand VPN (which is really handy) The thing is that there are some things you have to do to your system before NM will work correctly.	00:34
Carlis	no Jef91	00:35
IdleOne	greezmunkey: maybe you could guide NET\|\|abuse. I have no wifi card so don't have these issues	00:35
Alumin	Losha: cool...that's what I did by hand, was just looking for something a little more "one-liner" :)	00:35
archboxman	unixalot: why is every time ubuntu puts out a new version they end up with so many problems for kernel, hardware, interupt problems and just overall setup???	00:35
m3rc	I have a nic that defaults to using via_rhine but I need it to use rtl8139too. How do I associate the nic to the new driver?	00:35
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: so this is possibly a hardware issues... what is greyed out in nm=applet?	00:35
Alumin	which it looks like there is, with the service command...it's just not installed by default	00:35
unixalot	archboxman: No idea, im still using jaunty..	00:35
Alumin	too bad, but...you can't win 'em all :)	00:35
greezmunkey	IdleOne, I posted one potential correction for (him/her) earlier :)	00:35
NET\|\|abuse	unimatrix, the "Enable Wireless" checkbox is greyed out.	00:36
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, i meant... arg.	00:36
_Tristan	Jef91: http://pastebin.com/mc6aedbe	00:36
Jef91	Carlis - Try: Tools->Options->Languages	00:36
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, so the "Enable Wireless" checkbox is disabled.	00:36
Carlis	do i do that steps in oo ??	00:36
m3rc	Carlis: yes	00:36
archboxman	unixalot: this is why I wont go back to ubuntu every update seems to get more bloated and more problems... I will stick with archlinux :)	00:37
Carlis	ok	00:37
Smurfie	Hm..	00:37
_Tristan	if you stick to archlinux... why are you here?	00:37
unixalot	archboxman: yeah im going to try arch one day, and they just released alpha drivers for my wifi for osx	00:37
Jef91	_Tristan What is your current install Ubuntu/Distro and what is the Distro/Version the card works in?	00:37
Jef91	m3rc thanks :x	00:37
Jef91	Carlis -	00:37
NET\|\|abuse	hmm, how do i use wicd?	00:38
_Tristan	Jef91: I've got two partitions on the same box of ubuntu 9.10, this one I'm on now works and my new one doesn't	00:38
Jef91	Carlis - FYI I had no idea how to change that - I just googled it...	00:38
Jef91	NET\|\|abuse - you don't, it blows hardcore IMO	00:38
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: okay i found the solution	00:38
archboxman	Tristam: help other users I use Linux MInt 7.. I can help with xorg.conf questions and setup and few more problems :)	00:38
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, ahhh? :) cool	00:38
greezmunkey	NET\|\|abuse, If you apt-get install wicd, it will uninstall NM as it replaces it, pretty painless.	00:38
Smurfie	Where on this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation do I find the installation for 8.04?	00:38
m3rc	Jef91: Google's the secret linux pro help tool. I heard the FBI's using it now.	00:38
Jef91	archboxman - I don't even refer to it has Mint unless I am on the mint boards	00:39
NET\|\|abuse	greezmunkey, i've already done that, there's no icons to run it, running from command line produces no output... bleh... weird	00:39
Jef91	For most intents and fixing issues mint == ubuntu	00:39
harjot__	is there a ubuntu 8.04 skype version for download anywhere?	00:39
archboxman	Jef91: why they all run Debian	00:39
greezmunkey	NET\|\|abuse, yikes, that is strange!	00:39
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: just got a question	00:39
rahduke	can anyone point me to an app that monitors my SSH server, i really want something simple that has a GUI	00:39
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, ok, shoot	00:39
IdleOne	NET\|\|abuse: log out and back in and wicd will ( cross fingers ) kick in and just work	00:39
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: do you want to use nm wireless or can you succesfully connect to wifi using terminal methods like ifconfig iwconfig	00:40
greezmunkey	NET\|\|abuse, there is that :)	00:40
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: would help determine the bug being software/hardware	00:40
geirha	Smurfie: help.ubuntu.com -> 8.04 -> Installing Ubuntu (at the bottom), but yeah, there should've been a link for the LTS on that page too	00:40
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, i'd definately prefer to use nm.. remembering the cli series of commands just isn't what i need	00:40
archboxman	Jef91: last time I was on here we had to go to the debian chatroom to fix individuals xorg.conf file I almost certian no ubuntu user would have fixed it...	00:40
Smurfie	Ahh ok, thank you geirha :]	00:40
rahduke	can anyone point me to an app that monitors my SSH server, i really want something simple that has a GUI, comeon someone knows something!	00:41
Carlis	I have chosen spanish in Tool+option and language but OO doesnt check the spanish word	00:41
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: apparently you have to blacklist the dell-laptop kernel module	00:41
jOZe	hello	00:41
Jef91	archboxman - yep, Linux is Linux	00:41
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, oh god? what?	00:41
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: dell tries to save power by not enabling the hardware till the wifi signal apperas	00:41
m3rc	rahduke: Try Webmin	00:41
blakkheim	rahduke: grep ssh /var/log/auth.log \| tail -f	00:41
_Tristan	lol.	00:41
Jef91	archboxman For really complex questions most times I have to go to LinuxQuestions.org to get a solution because UbuntuForums.org gets no answers	00:41
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, will that kill other stuff though like the fn keys?	00:41
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, volume up down?	00:41
greezmunkey	rahduke, what info do you want to see on the SSH server?	00:41
rahduke	blakkheim: im looking for something with a gui	00:42
rahduke	just want to monitor who connects, and speed of streams and stuff	00:42
blakkheim	rahduke: xterm -e "grep ssh /var/log/auth.log \| tail -f"	00:42
Jef91	Anyone here had any luck getting audio to pipe through the HDMI on a nVidia card under Linux? I've been less than successful thus far	00:42
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: No idea for i have not done so, but um	00:42
_Tristan	blakkheim: you beat me to it.	00:42
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, what's the package called?	00:42
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: you should try to turn off wireless manual and see if you can connect	00:42
archboxman	Jef91: I write alot of responses on LinuxQuestions.org ... :)	00:42
geirha	Carlis: In OO, Tools -> Language -> For all text -> Spanish	00:42
rahduke	blakkheim: that didnt work	00:42
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: network manager detecs the change and shows the wireless checkmark as enables?	00:42
jOZe	any idea about a firefox 3.5.7 + flash plugin 10.0.r42 on ubuntu 9.10 amd64 that crash on some pages with flash ?	00:43
NET\|\|abuse	unimatrix, no i tried that a bunch, didn't help.	00:43
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: re-enable wireless using the hardware switch	00:43
Jef91	archboxman Very good, I mostly just help with people having Wine issues. I'm mostly useless for most other problems lol	00:43
Smurfie	Hey geirha. Which one would I click?: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/index.html	00:43
SaEeDIRHA	hi, i have problem with my display resolution, my screen resolution works fine , but when i login to my account it resize my resolution , is there anyway that i can stop it to resize my display resolution when i login to my account ?	00:43
anil56554	joze: that's the problem with firefox and flash	00:43
rahduke	m3rc: webmin seems liek overkill for what im doing	00:43
archboxman	Jef91: did you vote for linux operating system of the year on Linuxquestions.org???	00:43
Jef91	j0Ze - 64bit flash on Linux is shaky at best	00:43
SaEeDIRHA	i have Nvidia graphic card	00:43
Jef91	archboxman Of, course. I'm an Ubuntu boy at heart	00:43
nyc_student	is it possible to connect a laptop running ubuntu to a schools network and have students use the logins created for them be use-able and takes them to there own folder in the network?	00:43
geirha	Smurfie: Graphical Install	00:44
rahduke	SaEeDIRHA: i can help u	00:44
rahduke	hang on one sec	00:44
Smurfie	Okies.	00:44
m3rc	rahduke: that's the only one I know of	00:44
SaEeDIRHA	rahduke: would you please tell me how ?	00:44
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: others with your same wifi have had succes with using wicd instead of nm wich points the finger at gnomenm	00:44
archboxman	well got to run to work have a good day :)	00:44
Jef91	I have two Ubuntu systems, One Mint (so Ubuntu again), and then my phone is Maemo :)	00:44
Jef91	archboxman - peace	00:44
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, right, gonna restart X see if wicd kicks in.	00:44
rahduke	SaEeDIRHA: i had the same issue on my htpc, i have to boot it and check what i did... u use nvidia-settings manager right?	00:44
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, br	00:44
NET\|\|abuse	b	00:45
jOZe	thanks	00:45
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: i would go for blacklist dell module	00:45
SaEeDIRHA	yes	00:45
CyberaX2195	Could not connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (194.169.254.10). - connect (113: No route to host)	00:45
CyberaX2195	thats a new one!	00:45
Smurfie	Uhm, should I be making this disc from another computer other than the one I'm trying to upgrade?	00:45
Carlis	geirha didnt work	00:45
rahduke	SaEeDIRHA: goto preferences Startup Applications	00:45
rahduke	add nvidia-settings -l as a startup item	00:46
CyberaX2195	methinks gb.archive.ubuntu.com == f00barred lol	00:46
SaEeDIRHA	ok	00:46
rahduke	you will be straight	00:46
rahduke	thats a lowercase L btw	00:46
Carlis	what another steps can I do geirha ?	00:46
rww	CyberaX2195: It's down for me right now too. Try a different mirror.	00:46
rww	CyberaX2195: (it happens occasionally, unfortunately ):	00:47
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SaEeDIRHA	rahduke: ok, and ?	00:47
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, hmm, wicd came up, can't find my own wifi ssid	00:47
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: its probably interefering with gnome nm, wich is x10 better then wicd... imo..	00:48
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, can find about 20 0others :)	00:48
rahduke	SaEeDIRHA: once its done its done, log out and log back in or restart	00:48
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: k well	00:48
Jef91	What is the best way to setup an automatic nightly backup of my Documents folder to an external hard drive on Linux?	00:48
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: the solutin isi rather simple	00:48
geirha	Carlis: Hm. That's odd, it should've worked.	00:48
Smurfie	geirha, should I be making this disc from another computer other than the one I'm trying to upgrade?	00:48
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: terminal, rmmod dell-laptop	00:48
unixalot	than	00:48
SaEeDIRHA	rahduke: you said "goto preferences Startup Applications" and do what ?	00:48
Carlis	for me didn work	00:48
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/dell-laptop.conf	00:48
rahduke	add nvidia-settings -l as a startup item	00:49
rahduke	nvidia-settings -l is the command	00:49
rahduke	name it whatever u want	00:49
SaEeDIRHA	ok	00:49
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: once dell firmware updates are available for karmic this shouldnt b a problem	00:49
Carlis	what else can i do geirha ?	00:49
geirha	Smurfie: Upgrade? You don't use a disc to upgrade. You just use the update-manager. System -> Administration -> Updates	00:49
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, ahh, i see..	00:49
Smurfie	I've already messed up my system. And I have to do it through a disc or usb stick.	00:50
Smurfie	And.. I'm a few versions behind.	00:50
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: or try to boot with the kill switch off on the wifi	00:50
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unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: But try the blacklist first	00:50
geirha	Carlis: Have you set spanish as the default language in open office?	00:50
SaEeDIRHA	rahduke: thankx, let me check it and if i have problem i will come back	00:50
NET\|\|abuse	unixalot, will try that i suppose.	00:51
rahduke	kk	00:51
geirha	Smurfie: Ah, well it doesn't matter where you burn it	00:51
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Smurfie	Ahk.	00:51
unixalot	NET\|\|abuse: do you know how to use the terminal	00:51
unixalot	Open terminal i guide u threw	00:51
cookta2012	!wine	00:51
ubottu	WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	00:51
RyanD	Hi all. I am running 9.10 and put my desktop into Hibernate last night. When I tried to boot up today it gives up waiting for root device and drops to busybox. From the live cd I cannot see the disk at all but my bios recognizes it. Is my drive toast? If not how can I fix this? Thanks.	00:52
robert__	x cell	00:52
Carlis	yes, I do it in tool + option and language in the western field and I chosen spanish (spain )	00:52
ima	keyserver keeps timing out..	00:54
eedge	Hey :0) quick question, if I wanted to have a external hostname resolve to something on a local box that was less obscure, could I use the host file for this and if so how?	00:55
Smurfie	Well, crap. I got photo cd's instead of the other kind >_< usb stick instead. Hopefully this works.	00:55
geirha	Carlis: Hm. Well, try marking all text in the document (Ctrl+a) and set spanish as the language for the selection	00:55
ayam_jago	hello	00:55
skynet\|PC	does xchat support scripting?	00:55
eedge	(have mysql hosted, and the given hostname is a bit special, would like to reference it with something a bit more sensible in applications)	00:55
skynet\|PC	on ubuntu	00:55
ayam_jago	i need some help with my ubuntu plz	00:55
anil56554	eedge:yes i think you can	00:55
geirha	Smurfie: o_O A cd is a cd ...	00:55
Smurfie	O.o	00:55
eedge	anil56554, fantastic! this is why I love #ubuntu :-) any idea how?	00:56
Smurfie	It doesn't matter that I got photo cds?	00:56
ima	gpg: keyserver timed out	00:56
geirha	Smurfie: Just put in an empty one, right click the iso-file and choose burn/write	00:56
pingfloyd	ayam_jago: you need to be a bit more specific	00:56
Smurfie	<.< Don't mind me.. I have my blonde moments.	00:56
raffaele	ciao	00:56
raffaele	!list	00:57
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	00:57
geirha	Smurfie: I don't really know what photo cds is. If they are writable and are the same size as "regular" cds, they should work just fine.	00:57
Carlis	The issue persist geirha	00:57
kermit	why isn't apt-get removing the files, even though it says the packages are removed?	00:57
anil56554	eedge:its in the /etc/host	00:57
Alumin	kermit: it doesn't remove config files	00:57
Alumin	kermit: if you want it to completely eradicate the package, use --purge	00:57
skynet\|PC	e	00:57
rww	kermit: apt-get doesn't remove system-wide configuration files unless you use purge. It never removes per-user configuration files stored in your home folder.	00:58
kermit	rww: it's not even removing anything	00:58
rww	kermit: which package?	00:58
Alumin	hmm	00:58
rahduke	if i want to launch an app remotely thru SSH like firefox for example, what is the command?	00:58
ayam_jago	have usplash error on startup	00:58
kermit	rww: several large games	00:58
rahduke	it keeps telling me no display specified	00:58
anil56554	eedge:check it out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3407	00:58
Alumin	rahduke: same as it would be locally	00:58
rww	kermit: which package?	00:58
ayam_jago	and show low graphic mode	00:58
rww	kermit: as in, the actual name?	00:58
faultyground	Alright, Ive two questions, I'll start with the easy one... What happened to the "Sessions" feature from the preferences menu? I'd like to set up a couple apps to run at login.	00:58
Gnewt	I want to run Xen hypverisor with a current Ubuntu Karmic install, but it's not built into the kernel. Would compiling my own kernel with Xen patches from the kernel.org sources have any adverse effects?	00:58
rahduke	Alumin: it says no display specified	00:58
TomV_415	I've been struggling with an ubuntu install all day - I think at this point I just need help getting the grub meun.lst correct	00:58
kermit	rww: snowballz abuse-frabs pingus slune adanaxisgpl frozen-bubble egoboo trackballs xmoto wormux tremulous neverball supertuxkart openarena vegastrike torcs sauerbraten alien-arena	00:59
Alumin	rah: ah, looks like your SSH client didn't set up the forward	00:59
Alumin	rahduke: log out, and reconnect with "ssh -X ..."	00:59
rahduke	Alumin: oh i c what u mean	00:59
kermit	rww: several GB of stuff in /usr/share/games .. its all still there	00:59
Smurfie	o_o Apparently I screwed up my cd drive too. Lovely. Its not recognizing that there's a disc in there.	00:59
geirha	Carlis: I don't know then ... perhaps try the spanish ubuntu channel (#ubuntu-es), maybe they've encountered the same problem.	00:59
ayam_jago	pingfloyd: The error says :usplash: Setting mode 1152x864 failed usplash: Using mode 1024x768. I don't how to solve this problem.	00:59
rahduke	wow SSH is so amazing	01:00
rww	kermit: no error messages during apt-get remove?	01:00
TomV_415	I think I hate grub2... :-)	01:00
marcosRz	How do I add a contact from a guy (who emailed) me on Evolution?	01:00
Carlis	ok. Thanks geirha	01:00
kermit	rww: none	01:00
maco	marcosRz: try right clicking the "from" person and maybe there's "add to contacts"?	01:00
rahduke	SSH is the greatest thing ive ever found, seriously its incredible..... I went as far as to try to install a VPN server to avoid SSH cuz i thought it was hard	01:00
Carlis	#ubuntu-es	01:00
kermit	rww: this might be correct "After this operation, 122MB disk space will be freed." it should have removed several GB	01:00
rahduke	SSH is efffing simple	01:00
sekyourbox	will this work with ubuntu: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 512MB DDR2 PCI Graphics Card ?	01:01
marcosRz	do you think I"m retarted?	01:01
ima	how do I check to see if I've got the amd64 version or the i386 version of wine?	01:01
eedge	anil56554, cheers :-) trying to get it to work with hostname --> hostname instead of with IP's, testing atm!	01:01
faultyground	Using 9.10, how can I set a program to launch on startup?	01:01
geirha	ima: file "$(type -P wine)"	01:01
rww	kermit: Can you give me an example filename that's still in /usr/share/games ?	01:02
anil56554	ima:which pc do you have	01:02
maco	marcosRz: i thought that was how it worked. havent used it in a while. but hey, you did just spell "retarded" with two Ts...	01:02
boourns	faultyground, system > prefrences > startup applications	01:02
ima	geirha, thank you	01:02
TomV_415	Is it true that grub2 doesn't understand uuid for disks?	01:02
unixalot	grub 2 is crap	01:02
unixalot	lol	01:02
unixalot	I like the legacy	01:02
TomV_415	unixalot: yes yes true.	01:02
ayam_jago	The error says :usplash: Setting mode 1152x864 failed usplash: Using mode 1024x768. I don't how to solve this problem. im using nVidia GeForce Fx5500	01:02
faultyground	boourns facepalm thanks. I kept looking for the old "Sessions" and didnt even notice.	01:02
maco	marcosRz: and if it doesnt work like that, file a usability bug, because it should	01:02
marcosRz	maco, English is not my first language	01:02
marcosRz	:P	01:02
kermit	rww: /usr/share/alien-arena/data1/textures/martian/tree2_tga.tga	01:03
boourns	faultyground, yep its confusing it keeps moving around between versions	01:03
TomV_415	unixalot: maybe more like 'not ready for primetime' than crap :-)	01:03
unixalot	TomV_415: yes well, its more so that you cant mess up your boot	01:03
unixalot	TomV_415: with all those different config files	01:03
MrKeuner	hi, is duplex printing possible in Karmic? I am using hp4250n which I believe is duplex capable	01:03
TomV_415	unixalot: I'm deep in the middle of trying to work my way out of that very problem...	01:04
rww	kermit: did apt-get remove the "alien-arena-data" package?	01:04
TomV_415	unixalot: after a complete reinstall of ubuntu, I still can't get the bootloader to work.	01:04
kermit	rww: no, that worked, thanks	01:04
rww	kermit: no problem, glad I could help :)	01:05
tucemiux	any one knows if you can tether and sync a phone that has windows mobile??	01:05
skynet\|PC	LOAD -e script#1	01:05
boourns	TomV_415, may i suggest the "super grub" boot disc?	01:05
vladc	Hi, does anyone know what package in 9.10 includes the "tclkit" executable?	01:06
TomV_415	boourns: I have used the supergrub boot disk... lets me get back to windows, but I need to fix how it opens ubuntu... trying to sort that out now.. (fdisk -l ...)	01:06
MenZa	!find tclkit \| vladc	01:06
kermit	rww: i guess i'll do this: find snowballz abuse-frabs pingus slune adanaxisgpl frozen-bubble egoboo trackballs xmoto wormux tremulous neverball supertuxkart openarena vegastrike torcs sauerbraten alien-arena -type f\|xargs dpkg -S\|cut -d: -f1\|sort -u\|xargs apt-get remove	01:06
boourns	TomV_415, did you try the "auto linux" option?	01:06
ubottu	vladc: Package/file tclkit does not exist in karmic	01:06
MenZa	vladc: Out of luck, it would seem.	01:06
TomV_415	boourns: I'll try it again...	01:06
zilkomaa	Why i cant get alsamixer driver option shown in sound->prefences-hardware-profile?	01:07
boourns	TomV_415, also... from super grub, try show partitions, find your ubuntu partition, hit B for boot... it wont fix grub but its good for testing that u can boot it	01:07
vladc	MenZa, ubottu: That's weird, I would expect there to be a package for it. I guess I'll have to install it manually.	01:07
* `mOOse` listens to TomV_415 and boourns carefully as he has now got a hosed XP/Win7 dualboot install thanks to grub2		01:07
TomV_415	boourns: I just simplified my partiions and such. there's no auto linux, but there's something like auto magic	01:07
rww	kermit: Theoretically, apt-get should mark data packages and things like that as automatically installed, and apt-get autoremove would deal with them.	01:07
MenZa	vladc: I would have expected it too. Sec.	01:07
MenZa	vladc: Perhaps the package 'tcl'	01:08
rww	kermit: unfortunately, unless you keep things obsessively tidy, apt-get autoremove often removes too much or too little	01:08
vladc	MenZa, ubottu: Thanks, I'll try 'tcl'.	01:08
boourns	yeah super grub is amazing... enough tinkering and u can always fix it ;) with windows too	01:08
faultyground	Alright, second issue, I recently installed Emerald, but it wont run unless I keep a terminal open running "emerald --restart", also defaults to gtk on startup. How can I get Emerald running without my intervention?	01:08
jack45334	anyone know how to download youtube videos in ubuntu	01:08
TomV_415	boourns: my linux partion is on /dev/sda5 now.. I just need to fix that crazy menu.lst, I think... but I'll try supergrub now..	01:09
boourns	jack45334, firefox + greasemonkey + youtube enhancer from userscripts.org	01:09
MenZa	jack45334: My suggestion is to enable YouTube HTML5 (http://youtube.com/html5) and simply downloading the source file linked in the mark up.	01:09
dukehunter	jack download firefox addon YOUKEEP	01:09
Dr_Willis	faultyground: use the 'fusion-icon' tool to manage your window decoration.	01:09
kermit	jack45334: keepvid.com	01:09
Dr_Willis	faultyground: emerald is basically a dead project.	01:09
* `mOOse` goes to look for supergrub		01:10
unixalot	faultyground: check my pm tell you how to fix this	01:10
ayam_jago	hello???	01:10
`mOOse`	this is a hail mary on my part	01:10
`mOOse`	I'm so fsking frustrated with grub at this point	01:10
jack45334	any software to do so	01:10
tucemiux	anyone here syncs their phone with evolution??? anyone knows if you can sync and tether a phone?	01:10
Dr_Willis	faultyground: and you can use 'emerald --replace &' then the 'exit' command to close the termial if you launch it that way	01:10
MenZa	vladc: For the record, if you do a search for tcl (apt-cache search tcl), you might find other packages.	01:10
rahduke	bargggggg how is there no ssh server application with a gui? Is there any screenlet or widget or conky script that willw ork?	01:10
MrKeuner	is duplex printing possible in Karmic, at all?	01:11
tucemiux	`mOOse`, watch your language, what is the problem youre experiencing with grub? please describe it all in one line	01:11
jken146	MrKeuner: yes, depends on the printer	01:11
MenZa	MrKeuner: Sure, if the driver supports it (and the printer, of course)	01:11
jken146	rahduke: why would you want one?	01:11
MrKeuner	MenZa, do you know if hpijs supports duplex??	01:11
MenZa	MrKeuner: I don't. Try reading the driver documentation, it should say.	01:11
jack45334	menza: will i have to login to youtube to use html5	01:12
rahduke	jken146: i want to be able to monitor transfer speed, users, that kind of stuff	01:12
tucemiux	rahduke, because you dont need a GUI to run an ssh server app LoL It all depends on what you are trying to do with the app	01:12
JoeSomebody	ok so i been backing up a few tidbits here and there, now how do i backup my themes?	01:12
MenZa	jack45334: Nope; it sets a cookie.	01:12
MrKeuner	MenZa, OK thanks	01:12
MenZa	JoeSomebody: Installed as your user, they'll be in ~/.themes IIRC	01:12
TomV_415	boourns: supergrub gets "error: no loaded kernel when I try to load linux..	01:12
`mOOse`	tucemiux, I installed xubuntu on a usb flashdrive and stupidly left my HD in my laptop (despite solid warnings not to), whuch has XP and Win7 on it...grub gave me a hard time because I forced it to install on the boot partition I made for the flashdrive. It installed the bootscreen to the usb, but in that menu there's 2 entries for win7, but nothing for XP...now I can't boot to either XP or Win7	01:13
`mOOse`	I can get into xubuntu though	01:13
TomV_415	boourns: do you know how to edit teh command to get it to mount \| boot to /dev/sda5?	01:14
arghh2d2	`mOOse`: so whats the problem?	01:14
rahduke	lol suddenly everyone goes quiet	01:14
`mOOse`	and it nuked my boot menu for XP/Win7...all I see is GRUB in the top left corner of the screen	01:14
JoeSomebody	got my samba, xchat, docs, pics, themes, any other suggestions before i erase myself? :)	01:15
tucemiux	`mOOse`, the issue here is, can you boot to xubuntu?	01:15
TomV_415	what % of pain here comes from grub2....	01:15
`mOOse`	yes	01:15
mazda01	anyone else have issues when trying to burn iso dvd's on generic dvd-r media	01:15
jken146	TomV_415: confusing%, until you learn how it works	01:15
tucemiux	`mOOse`, youre using grub2, just update grub	01:15
unixalot	mazda01: nope	01:15
JoeSomebody	i cant run terminal and do a "proper" backup	01:15
`mOOse`	I have, 20 times	01:15
TomV_415	jken146: you can say that again... how does it WORK? I can't get it to see my ubuntu kernel... back to liveCD now..	01:16
Dr_Willis	I recall the same complaints when we all moved from LILO to GRUB.. but you dont see many people still wanting to go back to LILO now.	01:16
tucemiux	`mOOse`, grub-probe	01:16
* `mOOse` goes to grub-probe now		01:16
`mOOse`	no path or device is specified	01:16
BalSak	does anyone know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?	01:17
JoeSomebody	is there a way to get a list of my packages without terminal?	01:17
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MenZa	JoeSomebody: In Synaptic (System -> Administration -> Synaptic), you can select only installed packages.	01:17
john4332	hi! i use ATA VOIP.... i connected line 1 to analog phone.... i can call with voip that way.. but when i connect my pstn line on pstn plug.... i cannot call anyomore with voip line.... usually,, the voip line should work first...and switch button 0000 ..to go on pstn... even i push 0000..im still stay on pstn line..any idea how i can resolve the issue ?	01:17
jken146	JoeSomebody: Synaptic	01:18
`mOOse`	if I ask it to grub-probe /dev/sdb1 or sdb5 it says grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /dev/sdb5.	01:18
tucemiux	`mOOse`, im not following you, sorry---so you basically have windows in your hard drive and install xubuntu in your USB flash drive?	01:18
kermit	can i remove these old linux-headers for kernels i wont use again?	01:18
grumbly	I have a strange and kinda dumb question... A couple days ago, maybe a week, I briefly saw something for some application that "checked" the options one has set for a kernel recompile- Might be a little off there, but essentially, it looked like it may have facilitated kernel recompilation, and aided in making sure it build/worked properly...	01:18
unimatrix	how do I kill NetworkManager?	01:18
`mOOse`	yes, exactly tucemiux	01:18
`mOOse`	2 partitions on the hd with XP on C: and Win7 on D:	01:19
bob_0	Having an install problem...(no installable kernel was found in the defined APT source) any idea how to fix this???	01:19
grumbly	i am now trying to find this... and can't remember the name.	01:19
dukehunter	installed 9.10 on inspiron 15 and now have no wireless capabilities. iwconfig doesnt find wireless card	01:19
kermit	is there a way to see what packages are using the most disk space?	01:19
JoeSomebody	cant get in synaptic, says wrong password, but it is not worng	01:19
unixalot	JoeSomebody: it must b wrong? lol	01:20
JoeSomebody	no its not wrong	01:20
tucemiux	`mOOse`, you must've done something wrong then, are your windows partitions getting mounted automatically?	01:20
grumbly	JoeSomebody: have you tried changing the password and using the new one?	01:20
unixalot	JoeSomebody: if you dont knw your root pass your kinda scrwed	01:20
JoeSomebody	i know it	01:20
JoeSomebody	i gave it	01:20
tucemiux	`mOOse`, wrong questions, theyre not getting mounted automatically	01:20
`mOOse`	tucemiux, I followed the alternative-install xubuntu's menu exactly	01:21
ardchoille	JoeSomebody: Did you enable the root account?	01:21
grumbly	JoeSomebody: try this; In a terminal, sudo -i and enter the same password	01:21
JoeSomebody	no terminal here	01:21
BalSak	does anyone know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?	01:21
JoeSomebody	enable root? prob not unless you guys told me to	01:21
grumbly	you have a terminal somewhere- alt-f2 and type xterm	01:21
tucemiux	`mOOse`, ok that's not a problem, your scenario is an easy fix, the hard part is figuring it out, im going to #grub to see if I can find a developer there	01:21
`mOOse`	tucemiux, if I go into thunar they aren't there, but if I go into catfish (which someone suggested somewhere) they ARE there, and I can access them in thunar once I select one/both of them in catfish	01:21
ardchoille	JoeSomebody: no, no need to enable root. should be your user password	01:21
dukehunter	installed 9.10 on inspiron 15 and now have no wireless capabilities. iwconfig doesnt find wireless card	01:22
`mOOse`	ok thank you tucemiux - really REALLY appreciate it	01:22
bob_0	no installable kernel was found in the defined APT source how can i install without getting this warning??	01:22
JoeSomebody	grumbly, hehe that worked	01:22
tucemiux	`mOOse`, you dont have to worry about accessing them after you booted to xubuntu, all you need to be able to do is detect them, if you do a "sudo fdisk -l" you should see the partitions, if not then we have a problem	01:22
bob_0	any ideas?	01:23
jef91	howdy all	01:23
grumbly	JoeSomebody: there might be something wrong with some authentication- I'm not too familiar with that side of things... look through the logs and make sure	01:23
jef91	Anyone here ever use "quick synergy" on Ubuntu before?	01:23
grumbly	JoeSomebody: Also, from that terminal, when in root, type passwd and change the pass and try again...	01:23
JoeSomebody	my prompt changed to # , is that root?	01:23
dukehunter	installed 9.10 on inspiron 15 and now have no wireless capabilities. iwconfig doesnt find wireless card	01:23
BalSak	jef91: i use it	01:23
dukehunter	help	01:23
`mOOse`	tucemiux, they're there	01:24
grumbly	JoeSomebody: probably... I don't know what you're running exactly, so I can't say	01:24
JoeSomebody	i did the sudo -i my prompt changed to # , is that root?	01:24
grumbly	JoeSomebody: probably... I don't know what you're running exactly, so I can't say	01:24
jef91	Balsak - How do you get it to work exactly? I can't seem to get it to ever actually connect	01:24
jef91	Balsak - I have synergy working via the CLI but a GUI would be nice to have...	01:24
BalSak	ok, start by running it from the CLI so that you can see what's happening in the background	01:25
JoeSomebody	hang in there i am trying to figure out what i am doing	01:25
BalSak	next, make sure you can ping the peer-machine by name, & not by IP (this is a bug, I think)	01:25
JoeSomebody	not sure if i shoudl try to fix it or not, as partitions are too small	01:25
JoeSomebody	a list of programs at least , saved to my usb	01:25
* unixalot has been staring at the irc for far to long		01:26
grumbly	JoeSomebody: while you're in that terminal window, the root prompt should be something like root@host:#	01:26
Zephyrmaiden	how do i add a new server?	01:26
jef91	Balsak - How do I ping by IP	01:26
BalSak	in the server, specify the name of the connecting client in the position by name & in the server are, specify the "server" by the IP (but not by 127.1)	01:26
jef91	Balsak - just ping <hostname> >	01:26
JoeSomebody	grumbly, ok im a root then	01:26
BalSak	so the same on the client & that should be it	01:26
grumbly	JoeSomebody: while at that prompt, type passwd	01:26
grumbly	No- dont wait no	01:26
grumbly	ignore that	01:27
grumbly	i'm being an idido	01:27
jef91	Balsak - How do I tell quick synergy which computer is to use as the server?	01:27
grumbly	idiot	01:27
`mOOse`	TomV_415, you still ther?	01:27
`mOOse`	e	01:27
BalSak	in the server tab	01:27
grumbly	try running synaptic &	01:27
Dr_Willis	jef91: i found the quick syngery interface very odd to use. i was easier for me to juist make a syngery config by hand	01:27
grumbly	JoeSomebody: if you can run synaptic from that prompt, you've at least gotten a workaround	01:27
infid	jef91: quicksynergy is pretty self explanatory. i think it's great for creating a quick config file, then no longer using it and use synergys / synergyc separately	01:28
JoeSomebody	just type synaptic?	01:28
jef91	Dr_Willis - ditto thats what I am doing now	01:28
tucemiux	`mOOse`, there's nobody in #grub right now, first let's find out in what device your grub is installed: sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub	01:28
JoeSomebody	works	01:28
grumbly	hooray!	01:28
jef91	infid - Then why can I never make it work?	01:28
TomV_415	I'm in the middle of fixing grub, and using the command dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc , the first screen (Configuring grub-pc) shows the linux command line to be blank. What should it be?	01:28
BalSak	infid: quicksynergy is excellent for creating the initial config; therafter I also use the c/s	01:29
infid	yeah	01:29
ima	Is there any real disadvantage in changing the chrome user-agent thing to mozilla firefox?	01:29
Dr_Willis	jef91: i recall on one of the tabs you had to keep 'adding' machiones/screens then configure the, with the other buttons/selectors. it was sort of backwards in ways	01:29
TomV_415	( I'm following the process outlined here http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId842078 )	01:29
`mOOse`	ok	01:30
BalSak	does anyone know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?	01:30
boourns	TomV_415, no luck with super grub?	01:30
rww	ima: not really, no	01:30
shawnboy	is there a channel just for ubuntu networking issues?	01:30
rww	shawnboy: no	01:30
ima	rww, alright, thanks.	01:30
TomV_415	boourns: nope, got errror could not find kernel	01:30
JoeSomebody	gee i dont want all that back, guess i'll wipe 'er	01:30
shawnboy	hmm. k. thanks.	01:30
`mOOse`	tucemiux, /dev/sdb5 (which is not where I want it but that's currently where it is)	01:30
JoeSomebody	thanks for the help	01:30
Alan502	Good evening, i am having problems resizing a windows partition with gparted, the slider just won't move.C can someone help me?	01:30
crdlb	ima: what would be the advantage?	01:31
tucemiux	shawnboy, no, just try asking away here or in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you dont get a reply try at different times	01:31
JoeSomebody	thanks for the help all :)	01:31
ima	crdlb, some plugins that won't run otherwise	01:31
dukehunter	need wireless help	01:31
shawnboy	anybody know why wlan wouldn't show up in ifconfig when I know it's on?	01:31
tucemiux	`mOOse`, you have different partitions on your USB drive?	01:31
Dr_Willis	Alan502: from windows be sure to defrag/scandisk - and depending on the version of windows.. windoes Does have tools to resize NTFS that can work a lot faster then gparted does for me	01:31
`mOOse`	yes	01:31
shawnboy	oops... there's dukehunter. I'm here on his behalf.	01:31
`mOOse`	/dev/sdb1 is a 30 meg partition I made just for grub	01:31
Alan502	Dr_Willis, it's a clean windows installation, factory default.	01:32
boourns	TomV_415, did you try in super grub: going to view partitions, selecting your ubuntu partition, and press B like i recommended?	01:32
TomV_415	boourns:dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc is trying to pull stuff from Grub Legacy meu.list, but that's not there	01:32
dukehunter	have no wireless capabilities after 9.10 install	01:32
boourns	TomV_415, cause if that doesn't work, you might have a bigger problem than you think	01:32
TomV_415	boourns: how do I view partisions	01:32
tucemiux	`mOOse`, that wont be a problem, the problem could be that grub is pointing to the wrong partition, partittions start at 1 I believe not at index 0 like legady grub	01:32
`mOOse`	it refused to install there though for some reason - is it possible it wouldn't install there because I made /de/sdb1 an LVM?	01:32
tucemiux	`mOOse`, can you post your grub.cfg to pastebin	01:32
boourns	TomV_415, look through the options on super grub its in there	01:32
`mOOse`	yes	01:32
`mOOse`	hang on	01:32
Dr_Willis	Alan502: so? still same procedure.. defrag/scan/try the windows features.. then id try gparted again	01:33
TomV_415	boourns: options? Hm... let me restart and try that..	01:33
Carci	I was gonna join and ask for help getting my remote desktop working--but I figured out what was wrong already xD	01:33
Alan502	Dr_Willis, ok :) thank you	01:33
boourns	TomV_415, its not actually under something called "options" im just saying its there somewhere	01:33
BalSak	does anyone know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?	01:34
jef91	Do I need to manually make a config file for quicksynergy to use Balsak?	01:34
Carci	So uh, thanks Ubuntu people for including an easy to use remote desktop :3	01:34
boourns	BalSak, never heard of it... i've used ekiga and its easy to set up though	01:34
BalSak	jef91: you can manually create a config file so that you have quicksynergy's functionality without actually having to need to run the front-end GUI; quicksynergy is simply a GUI frontend for synergyc (client) & synergys (server). SQ elables you to create that config file that you can them make use of in your synergyc/synercys application	01:35
`mOOse`	tucemiux, http://pastebin.com/m79b17197	01:36
`mOOse`	TomV_415, what iso of supergrub are you using?	01:36
jef91	Balsak - sorry, I feel stupid right now. When I hit excute on my server for synergy I get: 'ERROR: synergys.cpp,1068: cannot read configuration ".quicksynergy/synergy.conf"'	01:36
jef91	Balsak How do I make it create a configuration?	01:36
TomV_415	`mOOse`: supergrub v 1.2.1	01:37
tucemiux	`mOOse`, can you first try: sudo update-grub	01:37
`mOOse`	yes tucemiux, thanks TomV_415	01:37
BalSak	boourns: thanks. I did use ekiga in the past, but it's had some really serious issues. empathy is now punted as the "official" ubuntu IM client, complete with integrated video & voice: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Empathy & http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/09/this-is-what-awesome-looks-like/	01:37
boourns	heh you're right here it is in 9.10... i had no idea, still using pidgin + ekiga	01:37
BalSak	jef91: that error probably implies that the config file is missing. thry `sudo touch ~/.quicksynergy/synergy.conf`	01:38
`mOOse`	tucemiux, here is the update output: http://pastebin.com/m2f4fa028	01:38
TomV_415	boourns: now in super grub (1.96) do I need to drop to command line?	01:38
jef91	Balsak - yes that file is missing	01:38
BalSak	jef91: but QS should automatically create that file if it's missing	01:38
goyangfc	how do i install java on karmic?	01:39
jef91	Balsak - Where do I tell QS what system to use as the host?	01:39
infid	why is chmod not called 'chperm'	01:39
Alan502	goyangfc, java is on the repositories	01:39
jken146	goyangfc: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre	01:39
goyangfc	what about the jdk?	01:40
tucemiux	`mOOse`, did update-grub work?	01:40
jken146	goyangfc: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk	01:40
BalSak	jef91: in the "server" field, under the "use" tab	01:40
coz_	goyangfc, opne synapitc package manager hit Search type sun java	01:40
coz_	goyangfc, get the 6 revision and all is listed there	01:40
`mOOse`	yes tucemiux - I pasted it to pastebin url above	01:40
jef91	Balsak What do I put there on the host computer? The system's own name?	01:40
BalSak	infid: you can alias it to pretty-much what you want	01:40
kermit	is there a way to tell what packages have been used recently?	01:41
BalSak	i usually put the IP in of the system that has the keyboard & mouse attached that I want to use	01:41
kermit	er, havent	01:41
tucemiux	`mOOse`, ok so grub found the OS's, can you boot up to them? And if not what error are you seeing?	01:41
jef91	Balsak - I can't use quick synergy on the host?...	01:41
arand	goyangfc: You want the sun-java6-plugin ((and it's dependencies)) rather than -jdk though, I presume.	01:41
BalSak	jef91: ??????	01:41
TomV_415	boourns: I'm in supergrub on the commad line, I can see all the commands (tab) what command did you suggest?	01:41
infid	BalSak: just saying it seems like a mismomer	01:42
jef91	Balsak - On the computer I want to use the keyboard and mouse on, what do I put for server?	01:42
BalSak	infid: there's a LOT of legacy commands	01:42
Dr_Willis	jef91: i got it working once with quick syng.. but it was easier to just use a script on host/client to launch the ciommands i needed	01:42
`mOOse`	tucemiux, I installed xubuntu on a usb flashdrive and stupidly left my HD in my laptop (despite solid warnings not to), whuch has XP and Win7 on it...grub gave me a hard time because I forced it to install on the boot partition I made for the flashdrive. It installed the bootscreen to the usb, but in that menu there's 2 entries for win7, but nothing for XP...now I can't boot to either XP or Win7	01:42
BalSak	jef91: it's own IP	01:42
`mOOse`	I cannot boot to either of them	01:42
boourns	TomV_415, what i'm talking about is a boot disc, super grub disc, it isnt a command line its a text based menu	01:43
TomV_415	boourns: I'm trying probe /dev/sda5	01:43
coz_	goyangfc, find it in synaptic?	01:43
jef91	Balsak - when I put in it's own IP and/or hostname it says it cannot connect...	01:43
TomV_415	boourns: Right, I booted from the CD.. got to command line by typing 'c' after trying AUTO MAGIC with no luck	01:44
BalSak	jef91: don't worry about that now	01:44
TomV_415	it's trying to mount a uuid device that doesn't exist..	01:44
goyangfc	um	01:44
goyangfc	yeah	01:44
BalSak	jef91: if you've defined the position of the other systems (by hostnames that you can ping OK) relative to each other, and use the same server (by IP) on every node, you should be OK	01:45
tucemiux	`mOOse`, the only difference between your config and my config is that there's this line before "chainloader +1": drivemap -s (hd0) ${root} , I know youre not supposed to edit your .cfg but this is an emergency, you could set your grub.cfg to be writable, make the change, save the file, and change permissions back to non-writable and try booting up to windows, you could also add your own owntry to "40_custom.cfg"	01:45
tucemiux	`mOOse`, sorry i ran out of time I'll be back in about an hour	01:45
jef91	Balsak - thanks for trying to help but quicksynergy blows IMO, just going to write a script to wrap the CLI for my roomates	01:46
`mOOse`	ok thanks tucemiux ....I thought that you couldn't edit that file cause grub just writes right back over t	01:46
`mOOse`	it	01:46
TomV_415	in supergrub, ls gets two lines: (hd0) (hd0,5) (hd0,2) (hd0,1) (hd2) and then error: no such disk	01:46
`mOOse`	I'm so lost....sigh	01:46
goyangfc	coz, it's installing java-common, sun-java6-jre, odbcinst1debian1, unixodbc, sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jdk	01:46
TomV_415	(hd2) is the live cd	01:46
BalSak	jef91: http://gnuski.blogspot.com/2008/02/quicksynergy-quick-howto.html	01:46
NatureTM	hi, I recently got a Toshiba A505-6033 and my r8192se Wireless card didn't work. After alot of tinkering I figured out acpi was to blame. kernel params acpi=off and acpi=noirq not only fixed the card but also made the lapptop run faster. Unfortunately it also broke suspend to ram. I searched and found no solutions. Just wondering if anyone is aware of the issue or has a fix.	01:46
robtow	Anyone know how to set up Ubuntu as a WiFi access point?	01:47
BalSak	jef91: & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto	01:47
tucemiux	`mOOse`, yes, grub overwrites every thing changes are made, it could work for a while if you make your own additions but they could be overwritten, that's why you can try what I told you, you can also add yoru own entry in 40_custom	01:47
jef91	Balsak - I was there already, my issues is getting QuickSynergy to setup the host properly	01:47
tucemiux	be back later	01:47
arand	`mOOse`: It only overwrites when update-grub is run, so "automatically" in the case of kernel or grub updates..	01:47
TomV_415	root (hd0,5) gets "Filesystem is ext2 (!!)	01:47
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Blue11	hey sounds like my usb drive	01:47
jef91	Balsak - The sad part is Synergy includes a wonderful GUI for Windows by default	01:47
BalSak	jef91: functionality's pretty-much identical	01:48
jef91	Balsak - not in the slightest.	01:48
jef91	The Windows GUI was intuitive to use and worked	01:48
Dr_Willis	I got my syngery 'clint' set where i boot to windows or linux on the other box and i can controll it.	01:48
TomV_415	any help with suber grub or grub rescue? I think I just need to point to the right mount point and I'll be all set.	01:49
TomV_415	I can see all the files from live CD	01:49
BalSak	jef91: i use QS any a very large number of different OS's, and I have very few issues; you may be dealing with some other problems (like networking)	01:49
arand	`mOOse`: So, yes, you can edit the file and just re-edit it each time it's changed (which shouldn't be too often) However, demands you know what you're doing when editing the file, and should be aware that it's not intended...	01:49
jef91	Balsak - the CLI works 100% fine	01:49
jef91	Balsak - in fact I'm using it now	01:49
Dr_Willis	I fiound the QS gui a little odd to setup. but after i explored it for a bit. i figured it out.	01:50
TomV_415	seems to me all admin folders should be under git... so you can commit changes and roll back anytime.	01:50
`mOOse`	arand, and I don't - which is why what tucemuix wrote me above is puzzling me - did he want me to ADD that line to my config?	01:50
BalSak	jef91: well, there you go	01:50
rich	hello guys, im really stuck and could desperately do with some help	01:51
jef91	Balsak I just wanted the GUI for my roomates to be able to use - but if I can't figure it out they have 0 hope lol	01:51
CakeBomb	I've installed Ubuntu 9.10 and can use the command line fine, but after installing gnome and trying to run startx my monitor won't display anything	01:51
ayam_jago	help me pls	01:51
ayam_jago	how to remove nvidia driver from ubuntu?	01:51
jimcooncat	rich -- we're all listening, but you gotta get strait to the point	01:51
arand	`mOOse`: Do you have more than one HDisk?	01:51
arvind_khadri	!help	01:51
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	01:51
jef91	Is there an option to toggle off subtitles on Movie player?	01:52
`mOOse`	arand, no - one disk, 2 partitions, and usb stick with xubuntu on it	01:52
ayam_jago	!ping me	01:52
Dr_Willis	jef91: there definatly is in vlc and gmome-mplayer no idea on totem. proberluy is soemwhere	01:53
arand	`mOOse`: I think the drivemap in his/her case is due to she/he having two disks...	01:53
rich	ok, how do i correctly install cowpatty..i have downloaded it but am new to ubuntu so am unsure how to correctly install it	01:53
TomV_415	When I try to use either grub or super grup, I get 'error: no such device: 81fd4eab-etc...'	01:54
ayam_jago	how to fully uninstall the nvidia drivers on ubuntu	01:54
SpaceGhostC2C	Does anyone need some help?	01:54
BalSak	SpaceGhostC2C: yes, pls. do you know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?	01:55
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: lol... we all do :-) trying to get grub working on my ubuntu install	01:55
coz_	ayam_jago, did you install them via hardware drivers?	01:55
charles__	so, i know how to reduce the size of fonts for the gnome desktop/panels, but how do i reduce the size of icons? everything on the gnome desktop/panels just looks so clunky and big	01:55
SpaceGhostC2C	BalSak, ooh I don't really have any experience with the new empathy. It's ucky IMO.	01:55
ayam_jago	because i going to reinstall the nvidia drivers were still there old driver information	01:55
rich	anyone able to help me with installing cowpatty correctly\/	01:55
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, so, what version of grub and what's wrong?	01:55
coz_	ayam_jago, but how did you install the driver you have now?	01:55
BalSak	SpaceGhostC2C: i agree, but I'm trying to get to grips with in none the less	01:55
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: I think I just need to set up the right mount points for my partions..	01:55
ayam_jago	coz_ : i install by download from nvidia web	01:56
coz_	ayam_jago, ok so manual install then	01:56
ayam_jago	then i use : ./NVIDIA bla bla bla @ terminal	01:56
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, in grub or in your fstab?	01:56
coz_	ayam_jago, the command to uninstall that is sudo /usr/bin/nvidia-installer --uninstall	01:56
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: I don't know.	01:56
coz_	ayam_jago, that will ONLY work for the manula install so be sure that's what yo u did	01:57
PeterT	hi, I downloaded linux ubuntu, then burned it to a cd, then I inserted it into the drive. I restarted my computer and booted from the CD, then selected "install ubuntu". then, it goes into some code window, then a black window. the black window continues to "hang" and I have no idea what to do. is this a common problem?	01:57
coz_	manual	01:57
ayam_jago	WARNING: Your driver installation has been altered since it was initially	01:57
ayam_jago	installed; this may happen, for example, if you have since	01:57
ayam_jago	installed the NVIDIA driver through a mechanism other than	01:57
ayam_jago	nvidia-installer (such as your distribution's native package	01:57
ayam_jago	management system). nvidia-installer will attempt to uninstall as	01:57
ayam_jago	best it can. Please see the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log'	01:57
ayam_jago	for details.	01:57
PeterT	!paste \| ayam_jago	01:57
ubottu	ayam_jago: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	01:57
coz_	ooooo	01:57
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: starting live CD now..	01:57
becker_11	Can someone explain to me how I am running ubuntu 9.10 and gpodder is v0.16.1 when the gpodder website tells me the latest version is 2.1???	01:57
ayam_jago	oops sorry	01:57
arand	`mOOse`: Hmm, read some of the scrollback again, so you are now starting grub from the usb stick? And are able to boot xubuntu but not 2xWin? What happens when you don't have the usb in and boot?	01:57
coz_	ayam_jago, go to system/administration/hardware drivers	01:57
PeterT	did anyone see my problem?	01:58
Dr_Willis	becker_11: because the versions in teh ubuntu repos is not the latest.	01:58
coz_	ayam_jago, see if any of the drivers there are actiavated ..if so deactivate it from there	01:58
rich	how do i install dictionaries into stardict? does anyone know?	01:58
coz_	ayam_jago, this why i said you have to be sure you installed manually or not	01:58
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: Last time after I did a sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt I could see /mnt/boot/grub	01:58
becker_11	Dr_Willis, I understand that but how old are they?? 0.16.1 to 2.1 that's a big diff	01:58
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: (still starting up to confirm that)	01:58
rww	becker_11: The new version of Ubuntu coming out in April has 2.1.	01:58
BalSak	PeterT: either it's a bad download, a bad burn, or incompatible hardware. try the "alternate" ISO	01:58
becker_11	rww, cool thanks	01:59
PeterT	alternate?	01:59
PeterT	BalSak	01:59
ayam_jago	!paste ayam_jago	01:59
BalSak	PeterT: or a different distro, like damn small	01:59
rww	becker_11: 0.16 was added to Karmic (released in October). Jaunty (last April) had 0.14.	01:59
Dr_Willis	becker_11: use ppa's or other repos if you want latest..	01:59
ayam_jago	coz_ This driver is not activated	01:59
PeterT	OK, thanks BalSak	01:59
coz_	ayam_jago, ok	01:59
PeterT	I'll try that tommorow	01:59
ayam_jago	http://paste.ubuntu.com/368593/	01:59
coz_	ayam_jago, the question is now what driver do you want to install?	01:59
rww	becker_11: from the look of the website, they went straight from 0.16 to 2.0 for some reason, so it's actually not old :)	01:59
ayam_jago	nvidia fx5500 driver	02:00
coz_	ayam_jago, if you want a manual install it has to be done in a specific manner if you want the ubuntu driver then activate under hardware drivers	02:00
BalSak	PeterT: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate	02:00
coz_	ayam_jago, ooo then use the hardware driver utility	02:00
becker_11	rww, okay cool	02:00
ayam_jago	how to use it? iam newbie on ubuntu	02:00
coz_	ayam_jago, that is an older card and most likely wont do compiz very well,,,, i know my fx5700 didnt fair to well after a while	02:01
coz_	ayam_jago, it will work but it will also be a bit draggy	02:01
ayam_jago	what is draggy coz_ ??	02:02
coz_	ayam_jago, draggy means a bit slow	02:02
ayam_jago	ic..	02:02
ayam_jago	so how can i fully remove this older driver to install the new driver??	02:02
ayam_jago	ERROR: Unable to create '/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-cfg.so.185.18.36' for	02:02
ayam_jago	copying (No such file or directory)	02:02
coz_	ayam_jago, again if you installed this manually then use that command I gave you if you already did that then reboot which will go into low graphics mode then install the driver you want from there	02:03
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: what were you asking about fstab ?	02:03
becker_11	just reloading my software sources and I received this error http://pastebin.com/d1d01eb6e how can I resolve this?	02:03
coz_	ayam_jago, are you trying to install a downloaded driver?	02:03
ayam_jago	yes	02:03
coz_	ayam_jago, sudo apt-get install build-essential	02:03
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, what exactly is the thing you need help with? Do you need to install grub?	02:03
ayam_jago	but i need to remove older driver :D	02:03
ayam_jago	coz_ iam going to try reboot then install the driver	02:04
rich	can nobody help me at all?	02:04
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: I need to fix grub so that it finds the linux kernel. It's looking for some uuid but the files are in /dev/sda5	02:04
coz_	ayam_jago, make sure you have build-essential installed first	02:04
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coz_	oy	02:04
_schism_	evening all	02:04
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, you're using Karmic, amirite?	02:04
pilif12p	Why doesn't my eHDD show up on Ubuntu 8.04 ?	02:05
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: when grub loads, it first flashes a message that it can't find the uuid , which is were the grub linux script points	02:05
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: I'm guessing I just need to point to the right place and it will load correctly. Perhaps I need to mount something first.	02:05
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, have you tried using sudo update-grub ?	02:06
drbanzai	I've got an older laptop (HP Athlon 1.3gz, 256mb ram) that I'd like to basically use as a netbook (ie light weight OS for minimal functionality)until I get a real netbook. The CD-ROM is broken, but it does have working floppy, USB and wired ethernet. How can I get Xubuntu loaded onto it, other then removing the HD and doing the install from a different machine?	02:06
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: yes, I think I have but I can try that again.	02:06
Pelo	!install \| drbanzai this should help	02:06
ubottu	drbanzai this should help: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate	02:06
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: I get an error on sudo update-grub "cannot find a device for /"	02:07
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: should i mount /dev/sda5 to / first?	02:07
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, umm not in the livecd.	02:07
_schism_	how to I reset a ssh key in ubuntu? changed my server but have the same url and it wont do it and I cant figgure it out :(	02:08
Belboz99	Hey all, trying to get a wireless AP going on Ubuntu 9.10 using ath5k, anyone care to point me in the right direction?	02:08
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, can you boot into ubuntu if you edit the relevent line when in grub?	02:08
Pelo	_schism_, you can delete the ~/.ssh folder	02:08
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, writing /dev/sda5 over the UUID?	02:09
drbanzai	Pelo, Thanks!	02:09
_schism_	thanks pelo I do appreciate it	02:09
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: not sure.. I can try that - sounds promising.	02:09
arand	`mOOse`: I'm off to bed, hope things work out.	02:09
microhaxo	Is it possible to replace the Bottom gnome application panel with tint2?	02:09
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: just replace the uuid with /dev/sda5 ?	02:09
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, that's a one-time fix.	02:09
`mOOse`	thanks arand	02:10
`mOOse`	I'm still tinkering	02:10
Belboz99	anyone care to help out with a wireless AP using ath5k? They've added the functionality, but I can't find any documentation	02:10
microhaxo	i still want the top gnome task panel, but i think tint2 would be better for toggling the applications. I have a netbook so desktop space is limited.	02:10
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: if it works, I will know a lot more! I'll give it a try.	02:10
zilkomaa	Why i cant get alsamixer driver option shown in sound->prefences-hardware-profile?	02:11
ayam_jago	coz_ : You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.	02:11
Belboz99	I ran into a couple threads that simply said "use hostapd" but no one said how or where to find out how	02:12
ayam_jago	You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. how can i do this?	02:12
Belboz99	there's a bunch of links where documentation should go, but they're simply placeholders, the acutal documentaiton hasn't yet been written on that site	02:12
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: the line in grub i need to edit is search --no-floppy --fs-uuid -- set 81blahblah	02:13
Belboz99	ayam_jago: at a terminal, run: sudo nvidia-xconfig	02:13
gokturk_	#ubuntu-tr	02:13
Belboz99	at least, that's what I get out of that error message	02:13
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: do I remove the --fs-uuid or change it to something else?	02:13
microhaxo	Is it possible for me to use tint2 to manage my windows when minimized/maximized and still have the gnome task panel??	02:13
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, I'm gonna be honest. I don't use grub2 because it's still in beta and doesn't have full support for language scripting yet.	02:14
ayam_jago	Belboz99 : ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.	02:14
Belboz99	ayam_jago: did you use sudo in front?	02:14
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: there's another line to change too, but thats more obvious setts root=UUID=83djfblabbl	02:14
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, that's the one	02:14
Belboz99	that command should be: sudo nvidia-xconfig	02:14
ayam_jago	Belboz99 : no :)	02:14
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C:s still we're on the right track.	02:15
SpaceGhostC2C	belboz gksudo nvidia-settings ?	02:15
Belboz99	ayam_jago: think of the sudo command as saying: super user do ...	02:15
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, you should remove everything up to UUID, only have root= and put /dev/sda5	02:15
Belboz99	SpaceGhostC2C: why gk? it's all at the CLI	02:15
ayam_jago	Belbozz99 : i still cant configure this nvidia	02:15
maco	SpaceGhostC2C: why are you removing UUIDs?	02:15
Caber	hi	02:16
Belboz99	ayam_jago: I found the easiest way to handle nvidia drivers was with envy	02:16
maco	SpaceGhostC2C: UUIDs work even if libata changes the format of the /dev names (like when ide devs went from /dev/hda to /dev/sda a couple releasess back)	02:16
ayam_jago	how can i do that?	02:16
* ayam_jago newbie on ubuntu just using this few days ago		02:16
Belboz99	ayam_jago: open up software center in Applications, and search for envy	02:16
airtonix	if i install ubuntu-netbook-remix on a netbook and then revert the desktop to traditional gnome mode (as ubuntu desktop uses) will i still retain the benefits of the optimisations towards an intel atom processor that the ubuntu-netbook-remix has ?	02:16
SpaceGhostC2C	maco, I know that, he doesn't necessarily have the right UUID though.	02:16
maco	SpaceGhostC2C: not hard to find out the right UUID	02:17
ayam_jago	EnvyNG ?	02:17
SpaceGhostC2C	maco, I'm gonna have him put it in after he boots into ubuntu.	02:17
maco	SpaceGhostC2C: just type "blkid" and it'll tell you	02:17
Belboz99	ayam_jago: right!	02:17
SpaceGhostC2C	maco, I know that.	02:17
maco	SpaceGhostC2C: ok	02:17
SpaceGhostC2C	maco, thanks friend.	02:17
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: sounds good , having trouble with the search line I removed say 'unspecified search type'	02:17
ayam_jago	Belboz99 : thanks.. in progress	02:17
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Belboz99	once that's installed, you should find it in Applications > System Tools	02:18
ayam_jago	Belboz99 : what should i do now?	02:18
SpaceGhostC2C	Do we have any grub2 pros about? I know legacy, not the newer one.	02:18
Belboz99	ayam_jago: does clicking on it in the applications menu do anything?	02:19
Belboz99	(serious question btw, it doesn't on my end)	02:19
ayam_jago	nothing happen	02:19
orbisvicis	whats the default desktop search for 9.10, tracker or beagle or recoll or etc ?	02:19
ayam_jago	Belboz99: i click @ application, systemtools, envyNG but not shown anything	02:20
punisher	hola	02:20
overmacht	ayam_jago; apa kabar? having problem?	02:20
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: success!! found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 which says remove the search line from the script ... and now it's booting	02:20
Belboz99	okay, seems they don't give you the graphical verison ayam_jago, you'll need to open a terminal and type sudo envyng -t	02:21
punisher	ayuda con amsn	02:21
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, sounds like win to me :)	02:21
ayam_jago	overmatch: baik terimakasih.. have some trouble with my vga driver	02:21
Belboz99	they used to have a graphical version, I'm not sure where that went ayam_jago, sorry	02:21
TomV_415	definitely! how do I make that change permenent?	02:21
punisher	alguien sabe como configurar webcam para amsn	02:21
ayam_jago	ok thanks Belboz99	02:21
Belboz99	ayam_jago: it might be easier if you use the hardware manager	02:21
coolmadmax	ok	02:21
xangua	!es \| punisher	02:21
ubottu	punisher: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	02:21
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, you'll have to backup your grub.conf and then make the changes.	02:22
Belboz99	Under System > Administration > Hardware Devices	02:22
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, in /boot/grub/	02:22
Belboz99	that won't likely get the latest bleeding edge driver, but it should work	02:22
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: is that grub.cfg?	02:23
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, you are right. Back it up by running this command inside the directory cp grub.cfg grub.cfg.old	02:24
ayam_jago	!help	02:24
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	02:24
airtonix	if i install ubuntu-netbook-remix on a netbook and then revert the desktop to traditional gnome mode (as ubuntu desktop uses) will i still retain the benefits of the optimisations towards an intel atom processor that the ubuntu-netbook-remix has ?	02:24
Caber	how to make sure your PC restarts every 24 hours?	02:24
orbisvicis	Caber: cronjob	02:24
orbisvicis	/bin/sh reboot etc	02:24
jolaren	Sol vind och vatten, höga berg och djupa haaav	02:24
jolaren	ww	02:24
jolaren	!se jolaren	02:25
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: big header at the top of the file says don't edit this file... it's auto generated...	02:25
Caber	well, I want to make sure it does 24 hours after last start-up	02:25
orbisvicis	ok, so I know ubuntu used to use beagle, is that so now ?	02:25
ayam_jago	!id jolaren	02:25
Caber	?	02:25
ayam_jago	!en jolaren	02:25
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, it's safe because we backed up the file beforehand and you have a livecd.	02:25
jolaren	ayam_jago; didn't work ^^	02:25
ayam_jago	hehe	02:25
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: THANKS for your help on this!! I'll figure out the last bit on my own..I'm sure it's documented.. right I'll just edit for now.	02:25
overmacht	ayam_jago; tidak bisa dapat resolusi yang pas? hanya 800 x 600?	02:25
un214	how do I create a new global shortcut (kubuntu) ?	02:25
airtonix	orbisvicis, not by defualt it uses tracker now	02:25
orbisvicis	airtonix: ty	02:26
airtonix	orbisvicis, which i personally recommend you stick with	02:26
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, if you need help, we're here for you.	02:26
orbisvicis	Caber: hm maybe at startup sleep 606024 && reboot ?	02:26
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: don't you think it would be cool if all these folders were under git, then you could just roll back rather than having all these backup files..	02:26
ayam_jago	overmacht : resolusi dapat menggunakan 1024x798 dan lainnya, hanya usplash error pada start up. dan berjalan pada low-graphic mode	02:26
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: cluttering up the system.	02:26
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: and have a history of what changed too.	02:27
orbisvicis	airtonix: actually not using ubuntu, but Im considering using either beagle/tracker/recoll and probably not (strigi/pinot) and wanted to know what ubuntu used	02:27
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, You could always be silly and keep a svn repo of your files. It's sorta silly though.	02:27
kbfz	hello guys	02:27
Quirkly	hello, laptop screen brightness issue, and yet again, all the solutions on google involve stuff that doesn't seem to exist for me, lol	02:27
airtonix	orbisvicis, thanks for mentioning recoil, i've not heard of it	02:27
kbfz	why my screen shows "it can't support"?	02:28
overmacht	ayam_jago; oh, aku juga begitu. memakai intel gma 450, akhirnya aku downgrade ke ubuntu9.04. tidak apa biar tidak pake yang versi terakhir.	02:28
jefinc	is there a way to removing the requirement to authenticate everytime I mount a drive? (Karmic)	02:29
orbisvicis	Caber: that, or a cronjob that considers "uptime", and the new dcron >4 also has a @reboot crontab keyword	02:29
ayam_jago	overmacht : terimakasih atas informasinya :)	02:29
airtonix	jefinc, you mean apart from having it mounted by fstab ?	02:29
zetheroo	is this so?	02:30
zetheroo	Fedora uses i686 architecture thats why it's faster than ubuntu.	02:30
kbfz	why the screen shows "it can't support"?	02:30
andruk	does inotify send events when the kernel modifies a file (like /sys/devices/platform/hp-wmi/tablet)?	02:30
jefinc	airtonix: yes, I'd like to be able to click on it in "places" and have it mount at that time, without having to enter my password	02:31
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: how do I get the windows option back in my boot menu now that it's finding linux? Does supergrub fix that for me? or do I have to do it manually?	02:31
overmacht	ayam_jago; kalau mau sabar, tunggu update nya. nanti-nanti juga di fixed sama developernya. bisa cepat bisa laaaammmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.	02:31
zetheroo	anyone?	02:31
kbfz	anyone?	02:32
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, That's a question for someone who is using grub2.	02:32
airtonix	jefinc, i think you want to look into modifying sudo so that your user account is exempt from authentication requirements for the use of the mount command only	02:32
zetheroo	Fedora uses i686 architecture thats why it's faster than ubuntu.	02:32
zetheroo	is this so?	02:32
SpaceGhostC2C	!anyone \| zetheroo kbfz	02:32
ubottu	zetheroo kbfz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	02:32
jefinc	airtonix: ok, thanks for pointing me in a direction :)	02:32
ayam_jago	overmacht: saya hanya ingin menggunakan vitur efek grafik :D supaya lebih cantik tampilan destktop saya ^^	02:32
zetheroo	kbfz: I had already asked	02:32
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: thanks for your help!! I'm rockin and rollin now.	02:33
airtonix	jefinc, just so you don't go in the wrong directions : it does not involve re-compiling anything	02:33
jefinc	k	02:33
kbfz	zetheroo, i see	02:33
airtonix	jefinc, but it does require that your user account has permission to use sudo	02:33
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, Feel free to PM me with questions.	02:34
chisel_	what is the terminal command to delete wine and all the apps? i tried sudo apt-get remove wine. When i re-installed wine, all the apps were still there.	02:34
Fauntix	ventrilo for ubuntu?	02:34
zetheroo	Fauntix: Mangler	02:34
Random832	chisel_; where did you put the apps?	02:34
overmacht	ayam_jago; motherboard dan nvidia tipe berapa?	02:34
Fauntix	and an IRC too?	02:34
zetheroo	Fauntix: works great ... though I could not get the text chat feature	02:35
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: thanks for your help. this is a really great resource, thanks to folks like you and the others that give so much back to the community of ubuntu users :-)	02:35
Random832	your C: drive is in ~/.wine/drive_c	02:35
bernhard	im currently working on a deb package and im quite lost with the rules file, i basically just need to extract the tarball to /opt and chmod some stuff	02:35
Random832	and the registry is in reg files in ~/.wine	02:35
ayam_jago	overmacht : saya menggunakan PcPartner dan nvidia fx5500	02:35
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, it wasn't a big problem, I'm glad I could help.	02:35
ayam_jago	p4MB800 tipe mb nya kalau tidak salah ^^	02:35
chisel_	random832: isn't there just a terminal command to make things easy?	02:36
Dr_Willis	chisel_ your wine program icons are defined somewhere sles i recall . removing the wine package does NOT affect the users .wine dir or settings in any way.	02:36
Random832	chisel_; rm	02:36
Fauntix	how do i get my tablet touch screen thing to work	02:36
chisel_	i'm not ubuntu saavy enough to know what you guys are saying.	02:37
* Random832 isn't sure what could be easier than rm		02:37
kbfz	zetheroo, upgrate to 9.10 will also have the problem?	02:37
Dr_Willis	chisel_: then i wouldent worry about it untill you learn more linux basics	02:37
Random832	chisel_; what are you trying to do? if you want to delete the files just delete them	02:37
Dr_Willis	chisel_: or use the menu editor to remove the wine item icons	02:37
zetheroo	kbfz: problem?	02:37
SpaceGhostC2C	Dr_Willis, can we get some music?	02:37
kbfz	zetheroo, yes	02:37
zetheroo	Fauntix: your iPad :P	02:37
Dr_Willis	SpaceGhostC2C: Huh?	02:37
zetheroo	kbfz: what problem?	02:38
Fauntix	no zeth.... just a plain tablet laptop	02:38
kbfz	the screen shows "it cann't support the mode"	02:38
chisel_	i want to delete the programs in wine. when i try to go to drive C, it wont let me. so i figured i'd just delete wine. As to rm, what is that and how do i use it?	02:39
zetheroo	kbfzI never asked for help to a problem ... so dunno what you are referring to	02:39
kbfz	zetheroo, the screen shows "it can't support the mode"	02:39
Dr_Willis	chisel_: removeing packages do NOT affect the users settings.. thats somthing to rember.	02:39
zetheroo	kbfz: is that my problem or yours?	02:40
nuvan	I just installed ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop using the wubi installer, and it's not seeing my network adapters, wired (Broadcom BCM5784M) or wireless (Atheros AR928X).	02:40
Dr_Willis	chisel_: the directory /home/username/.wine is where the wine stuff is saved to for the user.. however the menu icons i recall are defined by some OTHER config files also in the users home.	02:40
zetheroo	nuvan: fun chipsets ...	02:40
nuvan	ifconfig just spits out the loopback device	02:40
kbfz	zetheroo, I don't know	02:40
nuvan	zetheroo: worked fine when I had 9.04 installed a while back	02:40
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zetheroo	nuvan: I believe you ... as I said "fun" chipsets ...	02:41
Fauntix	how do i get my gateway tablet laptop touch screen thing to work	02:41
zetheroo	Fauntix: when you find out post it somewhere :P	02:41
zetheroo	Fauntix: have you googled it/	02:41
zetheroo	?	02:41
abx	Hello! Does anyone know where I can find an implementation of JBIG-2 or a related program that can employ JBIG-2?	02:41
rahduke	anyone know what to type into OSX connect to server dialog to connect to an SSH share folder?	02:41
Fauntix	no	02:41
Dr_Willis	rahduke: You would have to find some sort of OS-X mount ssh server as a directory feature. Or find a scp gui client for OS-X perhaps	02:42
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Dr_Willis	rahduke: perhaps ask in #os-x	02:43
rahduke	thanks doc W	02:43
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TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: Digging into the grub stuff.. turns out there's a file to edit for grub2 in /etc/default (/etc/default/grub2) where you can set GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true :-)	02:44
zetheroo	Fauntix: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evtouch ???	02:44
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, the uuid is a good thing brah. It's really specific about which hard drive and partition.	02:44
zetheroo	Fauntix: and then "Calibrate Touchscreen" applet in the System->Administration menu to get touchscreen working!	02:45
lyrae	how can i bind, say ctrl + to go to the next song	02:45
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, the reason I had you use /dev/sda5 to boot was just to boot initially.	02:45
lyrae	my keyboard doesnt have multimedia buttons	02:45
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zetheroo	Fauntix: after that you may have to log out and log back in ...	02:45
TomV_415	SpaceGhostC2C: wonder why I'm not getting the right uuid for my partitions.. what you say makes sense.	02:45
ubuntufriend	hey I cant connect to a bad new ubuntu 9.10 update system with vino server but and I can control it but it had insane lag where I am getting snapshots, I have to reconnect to see if what I clicked or typed in actually showed up...	02:45
ubuntufriend	are there any known bugs like this?	02:46
SpaceGhostC2C	TomV_415, use blkid. ask maco.	02:46
ubuntufriend	is there something other than vino I can use?	02:46
zetheroo	lyrae: Keyboard Shortcuts?	02:46
lyrae	zetheroo, let me try	02:47
jcapinc	hey I installed gnome-shell, and tried it, thought it was neat, but it changed some strange and subtle things about my system that are causing problems like: startup programs do not auto-start, I cannot mount other partitions that I could before because it will not ask for authentication, and various other small things	02:47
jcapinc	is there some service that gnome-shell messed with that I can fix?	02:47
chester_copperpo	anyone using eclipse with subclipse?	02:48
Fauntix	ty zeth	02:48
lyrae	zetheroo, thank you	02:48
Fauntix	i will try that as soon as my updater is done	02:48
zetheroo	lyrae: your welcome	02:48
Alan502	Can someone recommend a video editor that adds subtitles?	02:48
zetheroo	Fauntix: no worries	02:48
Fauntix	have any of you used a book called Unleashed for Ubuntu?	02:49
lyrae	zetheroo, well hold on	02:49
zetheroo	Alan502: hmmm ... I have been looking for that too	02:49
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Fauntix	i mean Ubuntu Unleashed	02:49
Maletor	How do I scp a file from a remote host behind a firewall to a local computer i'm on now? I ssh'ed into my remote firewall then into my host, but I can't get the file from there to here. What do I do?	02:49
lyrae	zetheroo, it doesnt have next/prev shortcut. but i can add my own. so rythmbox's command for next song is "--next". so on the command box i put "rythmbox --next" but it doesnt work. any idea?	02:49
Alan502	zetheroo, yeah :) there are some video editors out there but i just want to make sure they do add subtitles before downloading them	02:50
ima	Anyone here got Quake Live working in Chrome?	02:50
Dr_Willis	ima: i had it working in Firefox.. not tried it in Chrome	02:50
gerrin	anyone know a way to run Mac OSX apps on ubuntu	02:50
Alan502	gerrin, not possible, at the moment	02:50
ima	Dr_Willis, ahh, I don't know where the .so files are supposed to go	02:51
zetheroo	lyrae: in Keyboard Shortcuts i have Next Track under the Sound section	02:51
gerrin	ok :(	02:51
Alan502	gerrin, you can run linux apps on MacOSX though	02:51
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ima	Dr_Willis, chrome just downloads them in a .xpi archive	02:51
zetheroo	lyrae: by the way I am in System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts	02:51
gerrin	ok, well that sucks	02:51
rww	ubuntufriend: there are a few alternative VNC servers, yeah. Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers	02:52
Alan502	gerrin, some MacOSX apps have it's version for linux though, or you can find a replacement	02:52
lyrae	zetheroo, haha wow. i totally missed that. guess i was too excited	02:52
lyrae	zetheroo, many thanks, again!	02:52
Maletor	How do I do SCP through a firewall? Please help!	02:52
Alan502	gerrin, any application you wanna run specifically?	02:52
zetheroo	Alan502: yeah ... in my searching i have not come across anything that does it as I would like ...	02:52
gerrin	Renewed Vision's Pro Presenter 4	02:52
gerrin	its mac only	02:53
zetheroo	gerrin: is there only a MacOS version for that app?	02:53
nuvan	zetheroo: hrm... lspci -k shows them, and shows that the atheros adapter is being accessed by the ath9k driver, and the broadcom by the tg3 driver.	02:53
zealot	Maletor: open port 22 dumbass	02:53
gerrin	yep only mac	02:53
Maletor	zealot: port 22 is open dumbass	02:53
zetheroo	nuvan: hmm ... I too have Atheros and Broadcom	02:53
zealot	Maletor: well then i guess you're up shit creek	02:54
Guest77025	hi guys	02:54
gerrin	well looks like ill have to go buy a new mac book, well that sucks	02:54
zetheroo	nuvan: however its worked for me out of the box ...	02:54
zetheroo	gerrin: how about a VM?	02:54
gerrin	vm?	02:54
ChogyDan	[q] if I run the lucid kernel on karmic, what could possibly go wrong? (I know it sounds funny that way, but seriously, anyone know)	02:54
Guest77025	hji guys	02:54
rww	Guest77025: hi!	02:54
zetheroo	gerrin: virtual machine ...	02:54
zetheroo	gerrin: run MacOS in a VM	02:55
gerrin	i could try that, know of any?	02:55
rww	zealot: Watch your language, please	02:55
zetheroo	nuvan: you should see if something needs to be blacklisted or visa-versa	02:55
zetheroo	gerrin: Virtual Box	02:55
nuvan	zetheroo: where and how would I check that?	02:55
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gerrin	know where i can find that?	02:56
zetheroo	nuvan: what are your chipsets again?	02:56
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nuvan	zetheroo: wired (Broadcom BCM5784M) and wireless (Atheros AR928X)	02:56
zetheroo	ok	02:56
rich	can anyone help with installing wordlists correctly	02:57
Dr_Willis	Of course teh legality of running OS-X in Virtualbox.. well.. :) lets say its not.	02:57
zetheroo	nuvan: please post the output of lspci -nn	02:57
zetheroo	Dr_Willis: hehe ... yep	02:58
zetheroo	gerrin: its in the repos ... or you can download it from the web ... google it ... or get it from Synaptic	02:58
gerrin	i googled it, thanks	02:59
rww	ChogyDan: Your system might not boot. If you have bugs or problems, we might not be able to offer support. It's generally not a great idea.	02:59
nuvan	02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002a] (rev01)	02:59
nuvan	09:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:1698] (rev 10)	03:00
ChogyDan	rww: well, as long as I can fix it by just booting an old kernel, Im fine. thanks!	03:00
rww	ChogyDan: yep, that should work :)	03:00
rww	ChogyDan: although you might want to make sure GRUB is set to show you a menu first. I don't think Karmic's does by default.	03:01
zedster	hi I have no TTYs (ie ctrl+alt+f1-f6) is just a blinking courser	03:01
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ChogyDan	rww: ok, Im safe there. I've never had the menu hidden on me, for whatever reason :)	03:01
zedster	and my grub2 hangs, it use to wait a few seconds then go to the default	03:01
zetheroo	nuvan: ok ... do this: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic	03:01
rww	ChogyDan: alright. Good luck :)	03:02
root__	hi guys	03:03
arooni	how can i fix this on ubuntu: ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused	03:03
zetheroo	nuvan: should probably reboot or re-login after that is done	03:03
usser	root__, dont run as root :)	03:03
root__	heloooo	03:03
zetheroo	root__: you have a question?	03:04
root__	heloooo	03:04
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sovi3t	arooni, make sure ssh-server is installed and started	03:04
DaZ	running as a root is l33t.	03:04
rww	arooni: is sshd started? try "sudo service ssh start"	03:04
Jeruvy	arooni: your firewall is blocking the connection	03:04
arooni	ssh is installed	03:04
arooni	ubuntu's firewall?	03:04
rww	Jeruvy: unlikely, since it's localhost	03:04
tato_	has anyone messed with ubuntu tweak?	03:04
arooni	how do i fix?	03:04
root__	well	03:04
webbb82	hey i need some help i am trying to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu and when i put the install cd in and get to the partition part i dont get the option to install the two distros side by side, it was always there before but my only option is to earase and install the whole drive where did the option go?	03:05
DaZ	arooni: /etc/hosts.allow/deny?	03:05
root__	yes	03:05
DaZ	(allow/deny)*	03:05
Jeruvy	rww: not unlikely	03:05
zetheroo	nuvan: did you get my last messages?	03:05
jcapinc	installing Gnome-Shell Messed with my main installation! what do I do to fix it?	03:05
whatram	Has anyone experienced an invisible lock screen? I can type my password and unlock it but the dialog box doesn't come up.	03:05
zetheroo	jcapinc: un-mess it :P	03:05
nuvan	zetheroo: yep. I can't do that directly, as there is no internet on my laptop, so I'm trying to dig 'em up on packages.ubuntu.com	03:05
jcapinc	zetheroo, how?	03:05
jcapinc	it did strange little things	03:05
rww	Jeruvy: If ufw is managing loopback connections, that's a bug. It's not supposed to do that.	03:05
root__	what	03:06
jef91	Is there a way I could run a terminal command that would crawl and directory and all sub-directories and replace all instances of one word in a file name with another?	03:06
zetheroo	nuvan: oh right ... ok .. let me see about the ethernet ....	03:06
webbb82	/msg NickServ identify webbb82 biggie	03:06
jcapinc	It does not always ask for authentication to do anything, like mount a partition	03:06
root__	what	03:06
jcapinc	it does not start my startup software	03:06
zetheroo	nuvan: you don't have a wifi usb dongle around do you?	03:06
rww	webbb82: you just echoed your password to the channel. Change it, and use a server window for nickserv messages in the future.	03:06
nuvan	nope	03:06
zetheroo	shucks	03:06
root__	what	03:06
falbertp	halo everyone	03:07
webbb82	ya i just did	03:07
sovi3t	jef91, man find	03:07
rww	root__: Hello. Do you have an Ubuntu support question?	03:07
arooni	DaZ, desktop-igloo ~: pastebinit /etc/hosts.allow http://pastebin.com/f4678d118desktop-igloo ~: pastebinit /etc/hosts.denyhttp://pastebin.com/f3e33e005	03:07
webbb82	hey i need some help i am trying to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu and when i put the install cd in and get to the partition part i dont get the option to install the two distros side by side, it was always there before but my only option is to earase and install the whole drive where did the option go?	03:07
root__	yes	03:07
root__	guys	03:07
rww	root__: please go ahead and ask it (on one line), instead of sending "what" to the channel, then :)	03:07
falbertp	hi I'm using latest netbook ubuntu version 9.10? have problem with a local phone modem type haier d1200p	03:08
nuvan	zetheroo: did you mean linux-backports-modules-karmic-generic?	03:08
Pelo	webbb82, what you get is an option to rezise an exsisting partiton to make room to install the new os	03:08
t7x	hi all. can anyone tell me if i can use wine on live session ubuntu loaded from CD with No HDD installed. wanna play broodwar :) got 2GB or Ram	03:08
root__	how do i change my text color	03:08
jimisrvrox	hey folks when anybody has a minute to help I am having wifi issues : http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png	03:08
DaZ	arooni: well, it's something else.	03:08
falbertp	what I like to ask, is there any easy way (GUI) for ubuntu my installed version to use that modem?	03:08
Fauntix	@Zeth: What is the syntax for that touch screen thing	03:08
webbb82	Pelo: always before it would say "install them side by side" but its not there anymore	03:09
rww	root__: on IRC?	03:09
jimisrvrox	nick125: know any good books or sites to learn stuff about linux/ubuntu?	03:09
jimisrvrox	hey folks when anybody has a minute to help I am having wifi issues : http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png	03:09
Pelo	t7x, you can but it 's probably not tonna be very fast	03:09
falbertp	because I'm newbie on linux	03:09
nuvan	zetheroo: because i've got a usb memory stick, so if I can download the .deb's, I'll install 'em that way.	03:09
root__	then	03:09
root__	rww then what	03:09
zetheroo	nuvan: yeah ... sounds good	03:09
ayam_jago	how can i remove 2.6.31-16-generic kernell to 2.6.31-14-generic ?? some like downgrade??	03:09
t7x	Pelo, can you help me set it up ? i can use flash drive if its any help	03:09
rww	root__: no, I'm asking a question. Do you mean your text color on IRC?	03:09
Pelo	webbb82, they might have changed the wording, worste case scenario you just manualy resize your existing partitons to make room	03:09
root__	yes	03:09
root__	my text what i am typing now	03:09
arooni	DaZ, how do i fix? could it be tomato	03:10
root__	i cant read it myself	03:10
webbb82	Pelo: i get nervouse man nually messin with my partitions	03:10
t7x	pelo, why wont be fast enough ? with a RAM if its enough should be even faster than with a HDD	03:10
root__	how do i change it	03:10
Pelo	t7x, sudo apt-get install wine , that will install wine, winecfg for the basic config, no need to actualy do anytying just run it , after that just install your game	03:10
root__	rww	03:10
Fauntix	@Zeth: What is the syntax for that touch screen thing	03:10
zetheroo	nuvan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic	03:10
root__	u there	03:10
root__	rwww	03:10
rww	root__: You can't change the way other people read it. You can set the way you see it with Settings -> Preferences -> Colors	03:10
falbertp	I'm trying to add my CDMA phone modem to Broadband Internet tab, fill all required setting, done, but how to connect using it?? there in no DIAL or CONNECT button??? please	03:11
Random832	so anyone know what all this ata3 DRDY ERR crap i'm getting is?	03:11
DaZ	arooni: i don't even know what tomato is.	03:11
root__	yes ok	03:11
greezmunkey	Who wanted to change filenames by crawling directories?	03:11
devrethman	what should I install so that PDFs will open in tabs in Firefox, rather than require downloading and a separate window?	03:11
Sonja	sleep mode on my msi wind netbook doesn't work on jaunty	03:11
rww	root__: please be patient in the future :)	03:11
DaZ	arooni: if it's not hosts file then it's either firewall or ssh daemon config.	03:11
Random832	http://pastebin.org/86097	03:11
Sonja	it sleeps but won't wake up :(	03:11
Pelo	webbb82, that's the proper attidute, just reboot win7, defrag a few times backup your important stuff , then boot back the live cd, run gparted , resize , then run the installer and install on the empty space	03:11
Random832	i get that over and over and over	03:11
zetheroo	nuvan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-backports-modules-karmic	03:11
arooni	DaZ, ssh daemon is listeningon port 22. and i dont know how to adjust ubuntu firewall	03:11
falbertp	hmmm looks like IRC is not the best place to ask anyway :) though it is faster if someone like to hear my plea for help	03:11
usser	falbertp, last time i tried it i used gnome-ppp. try that	03:11
root__	ok admin	03:12
DaZ	arooni: neither do i.	03:12
root__	i will be	03:12
Pelo	devrethman, there is a firefox plugin I think	03:12
t7x	Pelo, may i whisper you ?	03:12
zetheroo	nuvan: i don't know if this method will really work though .. there may be dependencies that you do not have ...	03:12
Pelo	t7x, talk tome in the channel, I hate pm	03:12
falbertp	wow at last someone hear my crying for help	03:12
devrethman	Pelo: Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is, I was just wondering if anybody knew what it was offhand.	03:12
t7x	Pelo, E: Couldn't find package wine	03:12
Pelo	devrethman, just to a search for pdf in the FF extensiion page	03:12
nuvan	the package pages show deps. i'll just make sure I get 'em all, or go back for em.	03:12
root__	allrigtg	03:13
falbertp	usser # so I gotta search for gnome-pp then ^^	03:13
Fauntix	Zetheroo are you there	03:13
root__	ok	03:13
usser	falbertp, also unplug it plug back in run dmesg see if appropriate /dev/ nodes for your modem get created if they do, it should be a smooth ride, just run gnome-ppp select your modem device and connect	03:13
zedster	I've got no tty's, looking for solutions	03:13
usser	falbertp, try it	03:13
Pelo	t7x, you might have to enable the extra repositories, menu > system > admin > software sources , check all the boxes on the frist and third tab	03:13
tato_	t7u: try sudo aptitude wine install	03:13
ayam_jago	how can i remove 2.6.31-16-generic kernell to 2.6.31-14-generic ?? some like downgrade??	03:14
falbertp	actually I've done abit of search before, some people suggest using PON POFF, but it doesn't work I dunno why, there simply no reaction what soever	03:14
zedster	who -a	03:14
zedster	zedster + tty7 2010-02-03 21:11 06:03 1257 (:0)	03:14
zedster	zedster + pts/0 2010-02-03 21:11 . 1690 (:0.0)	03:14
jimisrvrox	hey folks when anybody has a minute to help I am having wifi issues : http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png	03:14
falbertp	others suggest for WVDIAL, but it doesn't work either	03:14
webbb82	so if i shrink m y main partition and then run the installer it will find the unalocated disk space to install to?	03:14
arooni	i can't ssh into localhost even though the ssh package is installed (ubuntu 9.10),. here are my hosts files. desktop-igloo ~: pastebinit /etc/hosts.allow http://pastebin.com/f4678d118desktop-igloo ~: pastebinit /etc/hosts.denyhttp://pastebin.com/f3e33e005	03:14
Random832	jimisrvrox: http://old.nabble.com/0.7-not-working-with-linux-2.6.24-td15422455.html	03:15
rww	arooni: did you try "sudo service ssh start"?	03:15
falbertp	usser # well yes you are correct when I try to use dmesg it doesn't get recognized on usb tty0 or tty1 I think this is the problem	03:15
Random832	no idea how to fix it but maybe you'll get some inspiration there	03:15
arooni	rww,	03:15
arooni	yes	03:15
usser	falbertp, wvdial is a command line tool, gnome-ppp is a gui and somewhat easier to use. pastebin your dmesg, after you plug in the phone	03:15
rww	arooni: And it didn't help? Can you pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config please?	03:16
t7x	Pelo, if i need to make more space for use in my memmory any idea how can i do that ???	03:16
t7x	Pelo, can you tell me how can i check right now what is the space available i got for use	03:16
falbertp	some suggest recompiling make xconfig to make the usb reconized but there is error when I do that :( oh my...	03:16
Pelo	t7x, I don'T know , either quesiton, sorry, frankly I can'T figure out why you'd want to go to so much trouble	03:17
falbertp	usser # unfortunately I didn't bring my linux netbook now :( so I can't test it, I'm chating using a window laptop in work :( argzzzz... maybe I should ask later when I'm at home?	03:17
usser	falbertp, eeh you probably dont want to recompile your kernel	03:17
arooni	rww, here it is: http://pastebin.com/ffa108dc	03:18
makaveli9	i have a raid1 setup with 2x1TB drives. sda1/2/3/4 got booted off the raid array. i added sda1/2/3 back in and they are fine. when i try adding sda4 back in, the system freezes up for a while and dmesg shows sdb unrecoverable i/o read error flor block 9114837. so the ready errors are for the drive that it's supposed to be syncing from. is there a way to skip over these bad blocks? if not, what else can i do at this point is there a way	03:18
zetheroo	Fauntix: yes	03:18
falbertp	usser # well you are correct I don't want to do that either, too scary to even hear it	03:18
DaZ	Port 24000	03:18
DaZ	\o/	03:18
rww	arooni: You configured sshd to listen on port 24000, not port 22.	03:18
rww	arooni: Either change that back to 22, or use ssh -p 24000	03:19
Fauntix	Zeth: what was that syntax for the touch screen?	03:19
devrethman	Are there seriously no packages that provide a firefox PDF plugin other than acroread?	03:19
falbertp	user # is there anyway I can do to fix USB attachment problem?	03:19
arooni	rww sorry you're right	03:19
rww	(and this is why you don't jump to the unlikely possibility that a firewall is misconfigured and filtering loopback, people ;P )	03:19
zetheroo	Fauntix: this? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evtouch	03:19
webbb82	i have a 500 gb hard drive should i just split it in half for the dual boot?	03:19
Pelo	devrethman, do a search in synaptic but acroread is probably it	03:19
ayam_jago	hellooooooo ??? how can i remove my kernell 2.6.31-16-generic to be 2.6.31-14-generic	03:19
xangua	devrethman: mozplugger	03:19
usser	falbertp, apart from installing a newer kernel probably no.	03:20
zetheroo	Fauntix: and then "Calibrate Touchscreen" applet in the System->Administration menu to get touchscreen working!	03:20
rww	ayam_jago: are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?	03:20
Pelo	ayam_jago, go into synaptic, do a searech for 2.6.31, uninstall all the -16 pakcages, install the similar -14 package, reboot	03:20
falbertp	usser # oh no :( so what should i do to install new kernel?	03:20
jimisrvrox	Random832: so this is an error in the nm application itself	03:20
ayam_jago	rww : i think iam using 32	03:20
tato_	ayan_jago the best way is to download ubuntu tweak it does it easy	03:20
ayam_jago	Pelo : thanks	03:21
rww	ayam_jago: Do what Pelo said. If you can't get the -14 package, it's at http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/i386/linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic/download also	03:21
Random832	i don't know - i only skimmed it	03:21
zedster	my nvida drivers cannot write to xorg and some how that is why I do not have ttys	03:21
Pelo	g'night folks	03:21
rww	'night	03:21
usser	falbertp, i wouldn't necessarily blame it on the kernel. I cant really say what it is since i havent even seen the log files	03:21
zedster	anyone encounter this before?	03:21
whatram	My lock dialog box is invisible! I can type the password and get back in but how can I get it to show up?	03:22
zetheroo	Fauntix: we should talk here :)	03:22
zetheroo	Fauntix: looks like you need to locate the type of touchscreen device you have	03:23
fireball	hey all, how do i make wine app run in 1680 x 1050 in full screen mode?	03:23
zetheroo	Fauntix: probably comes down to chipsets again	03:23
falbertp	usser # you are correct, ok I think I need to supply the log first... hmmm it is difficult though if the internet did not connected at home because of this problem LOL	03:23
t7x	pelo it started :) but kind of blocked :) guess need to free more mem	03:23
fireball	or. . . how do i keep my touch screen calibration when in wine fullscreen mode?	03:23
rww	fireball: run "winecfg" from a command-line. I believe there's an option for it in there (though I don't have wine installed, so I can't check)	03:23
usser	falbertp, yep	03:24
falbertp	I mean I'm thinking how can I connect to the internet and asking in this channel if the netbook itself can't connect to internet? LOL	03:24
iflema	ayam_jago it is most likely possible you could simply select the older version pre-boot in the grub menu.... it is possible to change the default kerenel to boot.	03:25
falbertp	well this gotta be a loooong time to fix then, because i need to bring the log file to office and connect to internet the other day and ask again ^^	03:25
fireball	rww: thanks, but there's no help there	03:25
ayam_jago	iflema :thanks	03:25
falbertp	anyway usser thanks for your help :)	03:26
falbertp	this channel is VERY USEFULL indeed	03:26
drbanzai	What's the package to setup a tftp server under ubuntu? So I can netboot a laptop and install ubuntu?	03:26
falbertp	and VERY FAST	03:26
webbb82	ok so i just made my windows 7 partition half the size so now just run the install cd and it will create the partition out of the unalocated disk space???	03:27
fireball	How do i make stop WINE apps from losing touch screen calibration when in full screen mode?	03:27
falbertp	ok bye bye everyone gotta back to work	03:27
nuvan	zetheroo: got the packages installed, rebooted, still nothing. how can I check that they're being properly used?	03:29
fireball	ok, been trying everywhere for a week, including here. WHERE CAN I GET HELP WITH TOUCH SCREEN CALIBRATION VS WINE FULLSCREEN MODE ??? ???	03:30
dazzle	hi all, first time user	03:31
labarna	fireball: you want touch screen calibration in wine?	03:31
zetheroo	nuvan: how did you get the packages installed with the dependencies?	03:31
bob_	How can I find the command line to a program in the KDE menu? Specifically, I want the one for Kolourpaint, but I want to be able to discover it for the future as well.	03:32
Fauntix	Zeth: ok zeth the driver i need for ubuntu is the gateway finepoint	03:32
fireball	labarna: no, I just lose it when the wine app goes full screen. Pretty sure it's to do with a resolution change somewhere, probably x. But that's the problem and it needs fixing, please. . .	03:32
labarna	bob_: can you edit the menu... right click the menu for instance?	03:32
labarna	fireball: I think you probably right about the resolution change. The only way I could see working around that is matching your desktop resolution and configuring from there so that when wine starts it doesn't change the resolution.	03:33
zetheroo	Fauntix: interesting	03:33
nuvan	zetheroo: used the info on packages.ubuntu.org to make sure I had the proper dependencies downloaded before I put 'em on the usb stick. Ended up installing linux-image-2.6.31-16generic, l-b-modules-2.6.31-16-generic, l-b-m-karmic-generic, and l-b-m-wireless-karmic-generic	03:33
bob_	labarna, if I right click the menu, I can add to, or remove from favorites. no other options	03:33
shamike	can a bad ethernet card keep ubuntu from starting up?	03:34
fireball	labarna: is there a way i can make the wine app full screen in my x native resolution?	03:34
Fauntix	Zetheroo: any idea?	03:34
fireball	larbarna: emulate virtual desktop resolution through winecgf is not it :(	03:34
labarna	fireball: that all depends on the app, is it a game or an application?	03:35
zetheroo	nuvan: lets do some blacklist editing	03:35
fireball	larbarna: i reckon it could be done through regedit, but no idea how	03:35
devrethman	AFAIK wine can make things fullscreen if they ask to be. I don't know if it's possible to just make some random app take up your whole screen with no decorations.	03:35
fireball	larbarna: it's a dj app	03:35
devrethman	#winehq would probably know.	03:35
aidan_	Ubuntu 10.4 alpha1 is up for download on the ubuntu site but the links are broken, is there any other way i can get it	03:36
iflema	fireball do your callabration settings reset or ya cant calabrate to start..?	03:36
zetheroo	nuvan: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf	03:36
labarna	bob_: try this page... there's a section for editing the menu: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html	03:36
nuvan	zetheroo: it's currently blacklisting ath_pci	03:37
fireball	iflema: no, just not calibrated in full screen mode, fine un-maximised	03:37
labarna	fireball: yeah sorry I'm not entirely sure, wine is tricky with resolution. best bet is to ask in a wine channel or on their mailing list	03:37
zetheroo	nuvan: comment that out	03:37
zetheroo	nuvan: put a # in front of ath_pci	03:38
nuvan	zetheroo: done	03:38
zetheroo	nuvan: save and reboot	03:38
fireball	derverman: thanks, i'll try that	03:38
nuvan	zetheroo: on the way!	03:39
zetheroo	nuvan: ok	03:39
nuvan	zetheroo: still nothing	03:40
zetheroo	nuvan: you rebooted already?	03:40
nuvan	yep	03:41
labarna	bob_: any luck editing the menu?	03:41
bob_	labarna, looking at the site you sent. thanks.	03:42
Colloguy	I miss the pre-karmic battery applet, is there a close replacement?	03:42
Yvier6	hey guys, how can i install codecs for ffmpeg i've the medibuntu packet but i dont know which are they :S	03:42
L3dPlatedLinux	ok this is kinda dumb question but here it goes " I was looking for a good wysiwyg html editor for ubuntu and nvu is what I have seen along with others that I have tried with no luck ( some are above me) now with that said nvu looks like its now known as kompozer which i will try only if it doesnt install a bunch of kde stuff with it cause I dont like kde much, so will it pull down a bunch of kde stuff with it and do you all know of something I ha	03:43
L3dPlatedLinux	vent found?	03:43
nuvan	zetheroo: just rebooted again. added acpi=off to my kernel line, and now my wireless adapters are detected.	03:43
nuvan	s/wireless/network/	03:43
tonyyarusso	L3dPlatedLinux: KompoZer has nothing to do with KDE.	03:44
zetheroo	nuvan: awesome ..	03:44
labarna	Yvier6: you probably want the package "non-free-codecs" (see: http://packages.medibuntu.org/karmic/index.html)	03:44
Yvier6	labarna: 8.04	03:44
nuvan	zetheroo: kinda crappy to be booting a laptop with acpi disabled though.	03:44
fireball	how come my xorg settings are a little random on bootup? ie, uses different config files randomly?	03:44
nuvan	zetheroo: will be hell on the battery life	03:44
zetheroo	nuvan: try it once more without that option	03:44
nuvan	zetheroo: oh, and it's not actually seeing any wireless networks. just the adapters	03:45
labarna	Yvier6: "non-free-codecs" is availible for hardy as well	03:45
guillermo_	i installed python-kde4-docs but i couldn't run the program "pykdedocs"	03:45
guillermo_	in intrepid ibex	03:45
tomatoes7	how do i mount an iso file on ubuntu?	03:45
guillermo_	how could i run it ?	03:45
rww	ubottu: iso \| tomatoes7	03:45
ubottu	tomatoes7: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	03:45
mtx_init	look up loopback devices	03:45
Yvier6	labarna: but my virtual server cant find the packages	03:45
zetheroo	nuvan: I would do a full shut down and reboot ... also make sure the wireless is enabled all the time in the BIOS	03:45
eon01	hello , Any one knwo a good tutorial : How to Install JADE on Linux ??	03:46
nuvan	zetheroo: rebooting now, and the wireless is full-time on in the bios	03:46
tomatoes7	thanks	03:46
labarna	L3dPlatedLinux: I think it's just pulling down qt files and maybe some kde extra stuff you won't end up running kde don't worry	03:46
labarna	Yvier6: did you add the medibuntu repository?	03:46
tonyyarusso	labarna: There are no Qt dependencies whatsoever.	03:47
zetheroo	nuvan: this will tell you if the module is loaded ......... echo ath9k \| sudo tee -a /etc/modules	03:47
Yvier6	labarna: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free	03:47
tonyyarusso	labarna, L3dPlatedLinux: It's a GTK app - look for yourself.	03:47
Yvier6	right?	03:47
labarna	tomatoes7: check out gmountiso http://www.ubuntugeek.com/easy-way-of-mountunmount-iso-images-in-ubuntu.html	03:47
webbb82	so lets me get this straight if i shrink my windows 7 partition then run the ubuntu install cd i will get a option to install to unalocated disk space?	03:48
labarna	tonyyarusso: sorry my mistake	03:48
sovi3t	webbb82, yes	03:48
labarna	Yvier6: can you apt-get install w32codecs?	03:48
webbb82	even if its unalocated?	03:48
webbb82	do i have to make the swap partition or will the ubuntu instaall cd take care of that	03:49
Yvier6	labarna: no ;(	03:49
labarna	Yvier6: have you run apt-get update?	03:50
sdubois	i'm trying to install libpng, but it is saying libpng12-dev: Depends: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.15~beta5-3) but 1.2.15~beta5-3ubuntu0.1 is to be installed	03:50
lucky4linux	webbb82: it depends on the type of installation you choose	03:50
webbb82	lucky4linux: how so?	03:50
guillermo_	i installed python-kde4-docs but i couldn't run the program "pykdedocs"	03:50
guillermo_	how could i run it ?	03:50
Yvier6	labarna: yes	03:50
sovi3t	webbb82, by default it should take care of swap and root formatting, or at least give some sane defaults	03:50
lucky4linux	webbb82: in the beginning, the installer will ask you to choose an installation type, how are you gonna install ? Via wubi ?	03:51
nuvan	zetheroo: booted normally, no network devices. ath9k is loaded and according to lspci associated with the wireless adapter. however, lshw spits out *-network UNCLAIMED for both adapters	03:51
webbb82	oh im using a live install cd	03:51
Yvier6	labarna: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_hardy_free_binary-amd64_Packages)	03:51
Yvier6	W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_hardy_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages)	03:51
lucky4linux	webbb82: ya but are you installing it from within windows or right frmo system boot up ?	03:52
zetheroo	nuvan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309605	03:52
lucky4linux	webbb82: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing see here	03:52
labarna	Yvier6: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin.com?	03:53
Yvier6	labarna: yesss	03:53
lucky4linux	webbb82 you will have very nice pics to illustrate the installation process here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing	03:53
Yvier6	labarna: http://pastie.org/private/t4pmqtnol5fexmubdv5kdq	03:54
Yvier6	labarna: hosteurope is my provider	03:54
webbb82	By default, the installer will give you the option to install Ubuntu side by side with whatever operating system is currently on your computer. You can choose that if you want to set up a dual-boot, i dont get that option when i goto install	03:54
lucky4linux	webbb82: you mean that you dont see " Install them side by side" option ???	03:56
wickwire	\quit	03:56
webbb82	yes	03:56
Yvier6	labarna: and?	03:56
lucky4linux	webbb82: oops, ok ! reboot your sytem again and again boot your system from CD and in the UBuntu menu, select "Check CD for defects "	03:57
Cyber_Akuma	Hey guys, I have a triple boot system that uses an older version of Ubuntu that still relied on grub1, if I reinstall windows7 (which would wipe grub I believe) then update ubuntu can I mak it install grub2?	03:57
lucky4linux	webbb82: which CD your have ? 8.10 or 9.04 or 9.10 ?	03:57
webbb82	9.10	03:58
lucky4linux	webbb82: ok did you download it or did you get it from Canonical directly by post ?	03:58
linux-padawan	hey guys, anyone proficient with network file sharing?	03:58
webbb82	download	03:58
mkquist	Cyber_Akuma: you can upgrade it to grub 2	03:58
lucky4linux	webbb82: ok reboot and check it as i said before	03:59
Cyber_Akuma	great	03:59
lifestream	Does anyone what this Gnome-App-Install traceback mean? Karmic http://paste.ubuntu.com/368636/	03:59
webbb82	shouldnt i shrink my hard drive in half first?	03:59
mkquist	linux-padawan: what you trying to do?	03:59
lucky4linux	webbb82: no need, we are just checking the CD for defects now. Lets worry about installation and space later !	03:59
tomatoes7	how do i find out how many shells i am running	03:59
linux-padawan	mkquist: i have several computers, all connected via a router, and i want to share directories.. linux and windows machines	03:59
labarna	Yvier6: hmm ok try checking the file /etc/apt/source.list.d	04:00
usser	lifestream, do you have python-gst package installed?	04:00
webbb82	ok ill be back ill get back on when i log back in	04:00
linux-padawan	however the nautilus share function doesnt seem to work	04:00
lucky4linux	webbb82: ok	04:00
mkquist	linux-padawan: are you using shares-admin in terminal?	04:00
linux-padawan	no, was using the share option in nautilus. it worked once, now it wont.. not sure why.. really im open to any approach just want it working lol	04:01
Yvier6	labarna: but this is emptx	04:01
Yvier6	labarna: but this is empty	04:02
onetinsoldier	lifestream: i think you missing something to do with gstreamer or libgstreamer, but i'm not sure	04:02
labarna	Yvier6: any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?	04:03
lifestream	usser, onetinsoldier, I'm not sure, trying to find it on synaptic and packages.ubuntu.com	04:03
mkquist	linux-padawan: try typing shares-admin in a terminal window, then /etc/init.d/samba restart	04:03
mkquist	linux-padawan: after you set your shares of course	04:03
mkquist	linux-padawan: is working for me as we speak	04:03
Yvier6	labarna: empty	04:03
Yvier6	its a virtual server	04:03
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mkquist	linux-padawan: did find on the new installs that i had to restart samba on boot. doesnt seem to be a problem anymore though	04:04
linux-padawan	interesting...	04:04
onetinsoldier	lifestream: i have no idea if the following package is your issue, but do you have this package installed? --> python-gst0.10	04:04
labarna	Yvier6: I'm not sure than... try deleting it from the sources.list file and rerunning the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu	04:04
Yvier6	labarna: done but nothing..	04:04
labarna	Yvier6: well you can always goto the medibuntu site and download the packages themselves you don't need the repository	04:05
lifestream	onetinsoldier, I searched for python-gst in synaptic and it isn't even shown in synaptic at all	04:05
labarna	Yvier6: http://packages.medibuntu.org/hardy/index.html	04:05
labarna	lifestream: python-gst0.10	04:05
onetinsoldier	lifestream: hmmm, are you running 9.10 Karmic?	04:05
nuvan	zetheroo: well, if I boot without ACPI, I can see the network adapters, and while the wireless still doesn't work, the wired does, so i'm bridging the connection from my desktop, and will run a full update of the system, see what that does for me.	04:06
lifestream	labarna, yes, it's not there at all	04:06
linux-padawan	hmmm.. now how do i navigate to it from another linux machine?	04:06
linux-padawan	the shared directory doesnt show up under the networking tab	04:06
lifestream	onetinsoldier, Yes :) gnome-app-install was working for a long time, but I don't use it often enough to see which upgrade broke it, assuming one did	04:06
mkquist_	linux-padawan: just open network servers and it should show up	04:06
mkquist_	linux-padawan: if it doesnt, then refresh it a few times	04:06
linux-padawan	u mean the network section under nautilus?	04:07
replic8tor	I have a server install of ubuntu at home. How do I add an ip to like a firewall block list? I tried iptables but the command isnt found.	04:07
mkquist_	linux-padawan: like places, network servers	04:07
onetinsoldier	lifestream: roger. i don't think i really know how to help any further	04:07
linux-padawan	nothing	04:07
linux-padawan	thats the odd part	04:07
mkquist_	linux-padawan: same-same	04:07
labarna	lifestream: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python-gst&searchon=names&suite=all&section=main	04:07
linux-padawan	i had it working before	04:07
lifestream	onetinsoldier, I apreciate the help, I'll keep looking online :)	04:08
linux-padawan	not any longer tho	04:08
mkquist_	give it a go, works for me... had to reinstall samba once or twice when koala first came out, but works solid now	04:08
onetinsoldier	lifestream: ok, good luck :)	04:09
linux-padawan	im an idiot.. dang it, may have just figuredit out]	04:09
mkquist_	linux-padawan: what was it?	04:09
lifestream	labarna, "python-gst0.10 is already the newest version." Grr grr	04:09
linux-padawan	neverming	04:11
linux-padawan	thought i hadnt started smbd on other puter	04:11
irkep	is it possible to merge connections in ubuntu?	04:11
linux-padawan	both have smbd running, or should at least	04:11
obscurant1st_	hi in ubuntu 9.10 i just installed apache 2.2, where is the default index.html stored?	04:11
irkep	like you can in windows	04:11
meganerd	obscurant1st_: /var/www	04:11
obscurant1st_	k thx.	04:11
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meganerd	irkep: what do you mean, can you be more specific	04:12
linux-padawan	whats the dif between smbd and samba?	04:12
rww	linux-padawan: smbd is part of samba	04:12
james_	hello all	04:12
meganerd	linux-padawan: smbd is the name of the process, samba is the human friendly name	04:12
irkep	meganerd: merge a wireless connection and a wired connection to the same network	04:12
linux-padawan	well when i run samba start it says i need to install samba4, yet it takes the command samba...	04:12
meganerd	irkep: the word you are looking for is bridge	04:13
irkep	meganerd: what is a "bridge"?	04:13
meganerd	irkep: and yes it is not only possible, but reasonalby easy to do	04:13
james_	here's a random one... when you right click on a picture and choose "set as background", where does that picture get saved to?	04:13
Fauntix	ok wine doesnt work on 9.10	04:13
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meganerd	irkep: look it up, but it sounds like what you want to do	04:13
pingfloyd	irkep: a glorified switch	04:14
james_	sorry, picture from the internet	04:14
linux-padawan	and when i click on the windows network icon under network it just says unable to mount	04:14
hunger__	anyone have HDMI audio working on karmic? Nvidia card, TIA	04:14
pingfloyd	irkep: there's some minor differences	04:14
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irkep	look what up meganerd? if i lookup the word "bridge" ill get a million unrelated pages before running into anything for ubuntu	04:14
mkquist_	linux-padawan: did you restart samba?	04:14
linux-padawan	only smbd will take but yes i ran smbd restart	04:15
linux-padawan	however when i type smbd status nthing shows up	04:15
rww	james_: I just tried it, looks like it ended up in "Firefox_wallpaper.png" in my home folder	04:15
linux-padawan	whatelse can i do to verify its running?	04:15
hunger__	oh, btw, Nvidia Geforce 8600m GT, was working in 8.x not sure why it was removed	04:15
pingfloyd	irkep: a bridge serves the same purpose as a switch, it breaks up collision domains	04:16
Quan-Time	hunger__: i have NV220GT M workin in 9.10 karmic x64 no probs	04:16
sovi3t	james, ~/Firefox_wallpaper.png assuming your using firefox	04:16
sloopy	pingfloyd, it does?	04:16
irkep	pingfloyd: i dont know what you're talking about	04:16
hunger__	quan, which driver?	04:16
pingfloyd	sloopy: yes	04:16
linux-padawan	mkquist: yup i did, how can i confirm its running, nothing comes up when i type smbd status	04:16
ouyes	i want to add two shortcuts of display desktop and open home folder in xubuntu, i do not know the command name of the two ,who can tell me ?	04:16
sloopy	pingfloyd, never seen one of those...	04:16
Fauntix	Ok I really want to run Ubuntu but i need some programs to work that...well arent working	04:17
hunger__	i'm using the proprietary drivers (from nvidia's site) i've tried 185, 190 and 195 series...after 9.04 HDMI audio quit working on me	04:17
Santisnight	how do i forward a port?	04:17
Santisnight	through my router*	04:17
irkep	anyone?	04:17
sloopy	irkep, whats the question?	04:17
pingfloyd	sloopy: seen what? A bridge?	04:17
Quan-Time	Santisnight: www.portforward.com prolly has a guide.. this is ubuntu help, NOT hardawre help	04:17
irkep	how do you merge connections, as you do in windows?	04:17
Santisnight	Quan-Time, right, sorry	04:17
Santisnight	thanks though	04:17
sloopy	pingfloyd, yeah a bridge that seperates collision domains...	04:18
Quan-Time	Santisnight: np... if you get REALLY stuck, PM me and ill help	04:18
Quan-Time	or you can leave, whichever	04:18
pingfloyd	pingfloyd: bridges always have	04:18
obscurant1st	is there any way of running a webserver in ubuntu like dyndns do without using dyndns?	04:18
mkquist_	linux-padawan: intermesting... i get the same, but its working... hmmm	04:18
sloopy	irkep, using a bridge, i would guess you are trying to bridge a wired/wireless networks?	04:18
pingfloyd	sloopy: hubs don't though	04:18
linux-padawan	perhaps my router needs a reboot	04:18
linux-padawan	ill be back	04:19
sloopy	pingfloyd, maybe your thinking of a switch?	04:19
eon01	Hello anyone worked with JADE ????	04:19
mkquist_	linux-padawan: id try restarting networking instead	04:19
rumpsy	omg, time applet is not working properly!, even i installed ntp, and tried to set manually, but it automatically assigned to some time, :(	04:19
mkquist_	linux-padawan: first	04:19
pingfloyd	sloopy: no	04:19
mkquist_	linux-padawan: just my opinion	04:19
drbanzai	obscurant1st, Why do you not want to use dyndns?	04:19
irkep	pingfloyd, sloopy: I want to bridge my connections so when i switch between them my streaming media isnt interrupted	04:19
rww	rumpsy: if you have ntp installed, it'll automatically set the time. That's the whole point of ntp. If you want to set the time manually, remove it.	04:19
sacarlson	How can I get mysql to install on Ubuntu 9.1? I tried 5.0 and 5.1 both got stuck in install. When I tried to unistall I also had problems. I now have them deleted. what should I do to install a working mysql?	04:20
irkep	i want to *merge connections	04:20
zedster	I have no tty's running and my grub is messed up, anyone think they can help?	04:20
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pingfloyd	irkep: merging is their misuse of the word	04:20
pingfloyd	irkep: when you do that in windows, it is acting like a bridge	04:20
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: where did you try to install them from?	04:20
irkep	sloopy: yes	04:20
sacarlson	tonyyarusso I used synaptic	04:21
irkep	where in ubuntu do you go to bridge 2 connections?	04:21
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: can you define "got stuck"?	04:21
rumpsy	rww: Yes, you right, know that, but even after removal of ntp, i'm facing the same problem, it automatically assigning some default time	04:21
drbanzai	obscurant1st, You can run a webserver without a domain name...just use the IP address	04:21
sacarlson	tonyyarusso: well I didn't write it down but I can try again and tell you.	04:22
sacarlson	tonyyarusso should I just try install lamp?	04:22
irkep	this is kind of unrelated to my question, but, can you bridge connections to different networks?	04:22
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: sure. My guess is that you didn't expand the little window that asks you for sql root password.	04:22
sloopy	irkep, never done it 'client side' so to speak, but i would guess you would use bridge utilities	04:22
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: from tasksel? You could, if you want it.	04:22
sacarlson	tonyyarusso no I got that far	04:22
pingfloyd	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge	04:22
sloopy	irkep, see -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge	04:22
pingfloyd	old article, but it is the general idea	04:23
wolter	ping	04:23
sacarlson	tonnyyarusso it was past the password question when it tried to start the demon	04:23
hunger__	anyone? HDMI audio on an Nvidia card in karmic?	04:23
irkep	pingfloyd: do you know how to bridhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridgehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge	04:23
rumpsy	rww: ?	04:23
rww	rumpsy: does it only do it after you turn your computer off and back on?	04:23
zedster	I have no ttys terminals, need help	04:23
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: huh, that's odd. Maybe you should try from the command line so you can see any error messages that crop up.	04:23
linux-padawan	nothing	04:24
sacarlson	tonyyarusso: I also tried tasksel but now I have a clean start so I'll try tasksel again	04:24
linux-padawan	mkquist: nothing ... any other thoughts	04:24
tonyyarusso	hunger__: I don't think anything supports that yet. If it did, it would be the driver from nvidia.	04:24
hunger__	tony, used to work in 8.x	04:24
mkquist_	linux-padawan: restart networking?	04:24
rumpsy	rww: yes	04:24
linux-padawan	how?	04:24
mkquist_	linux-padawan: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart	04:24
pingfloyd	irkep: why not just make your life easy and install a switch?	04:24
linux-padawan	networking restart	04:25
tonyyarusso	hunger__: 8.04 or 8.10? You should always specify. (I don't know the answer, but if someone else does they'll need to know which.)	04:25
linux-padawan	command notfound	04:25
sacarlson	tonyyarusso yes this time i'm using the command line with tasksel	04:25
hunger__	i read in some posts hdmi audio on nvidia was removed in 9.04+ and the fix didn't make it into 9.10, but others have said they gotten it to work, just worked no idea how though	04:25
Pupeno	How do I add a file type to ubuntu so that they are open with certain application?	04:25
pingfloyd	switches are so cheap these days, hence why nobody bothers bridging anymore	04:25
hunger__	tony, both 8.04 and 8.10	04:25
rumpsy	rww: what might be the problem?	04:25
mkquist_	linux-padawan: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ?	04:26
rww	rumpsy: after you remove power from the computer? if so, that sounds more like a problem with the clock battery	04:26
hunger__	tony, actually 8.10 for sure, 8.04 my memories a bit sketchy	04:26
XPANSiVE	I tryed to install ubuntu on a old laptop today but it hangs at the red-ish backdrop with a mouse pointer. Anyone know what the problem could be?	04:26
linux-padawan	nah its the networking part it doesnt like	04:26
mkquist_	linux-padawan: what do you mean?	04:26
rumpsy	rww: Okay, i'll check that, and back to you	04:27
mrpink57	XPANSiVE: how old is said laptop? Ubuntu isnt exactly skinny as she used to be.	04:27
sovi3t	Pupeno, right click the file you want to run, click properties, go to the open with tab.	04:27
linux-padawan	says networking command not found	04:27
ubuntu	hm. I'm wondering if livecd can write to removeable disk?	04:27
XPANSiVE	800 mhz, 192 mb of ram	04:27
tonyyarusso	ubuntu: yes	04:27
pingfloyd	linux-padawan: you have to use the full path	04:27
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Pupeno	sovi3t: it says it'll asociate K3B with blah.k3b and other Zip files. I want K3B only for .k3b, not other zip files.	04:27
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linux-padawan	i did	04:27
mrpink57	XPANSiVE: did you install a full blown ubuntu or something like xubuntu?	04:28
pingfloyd	sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart	04:28
XPANSiVE	full blown	04:28
littlebear91	mrpink57, can xubuntu livecd write to removeable HDD?	04:28
XPANSiVE	it hangs while installing	04:28
linux-padawan	ahh.. i was in the directory.. so i didnt	04:28
mrpink57	XPANSiVE: you might want to try something smaller like Xubuntu or Crunchbang	04:28
XPANSiVE	kk	04:28
pingfloyd	linux-padawan: you can't do it that way	04:28
linux-padawan	now restarting smbd then	04:29
pingfloyd	linux-padawan: if you're in the directory you would do sudo ./networking restart	04:29
linux-padawan	again the whole path?	04:29
mrpink57	XPANSiVE: i have a 1.7ghz 512mb laptop and use Arch which I keep slim with a tiling wm	04:29
pingfloyd	linux-padawan: you have to have the ./ part unless it's in your PATH variable	04:29
sacarlson	tonyyarusso: after running tasksel and selecting lamp-server I saw no errors and looks like mysql is installed when I checked in synaptic but I see no demon running	04:29
zedster	can anyone help me? the lack of tty1-6 is driving me nutz	04:29
TomV_415	long day for ubuntu problems.. for me. Just got things working, then bam something odd happend.. Soon after getting my nvida-settings working, my windows all got messed up...	04:29
mrpink57	XPANSiVE: does it hang forever or does it eventually just go to a command line?	04:29
pingfloyd	linux-padawan: if you're in the directory you can't just type networking you have to type ./networking	04:30
TomV_415	For example the terminal window just shows up as a white box.. no menu, no text, nothing.	04:30
XPANSiVE	i left it for 4 hours	04:30
linux-padawan	hmmm got it working now.. thanks!	04:30
mkquist_	linux-padawan: sharing works now?	04:30
pingfloyd	linux-padawan: full path will work regardless of where you are	04:30
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: what happens if you start it manually? 'sudo service mysqld start'	04:30
TomV_415	I can move it around with alt-F7, but that it.	04:30
mrpink57	XPANSiVE: i am sure if you reinstall it will work but Ubuntu is pretty chunky for that laptop still, its going ot struggle.	04:30
linux-padawan	right i know the full path part, was trying to take a short cut	04:31
linux-padawan	how about starting smbd tho	04:31
mkquist_	linux-padawan: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart should work...	04:31
sacarlson	tonyyarusso unrecognized service	04:31
mkquist_	linux-padawan: or stop/start too...	04:31
XPANSiVE	i'll try some other distro	04:31
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: try mysql instead of mysqld - I can't remember	04:32
XPANSiVE	or maybe just a terminal ;D	04:32
ayotte	salut	04:32
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sacarlson	tonyyarusso: when I deleted it I also deleted the files with mysql in /etc/init.d maybe those were still needed?	04:33
rumpsy	ayotte: salut	04:33
ayotte	on parles-tu en français ici ?	04:33
microhaxo	fyi, tint2 sucks as the bottom window holder panel. Buggy	04:33
zedster	anyone else on a dell d830?	04:33
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: uh, apt should have replaced them when you reinstalled	04:33
pingfloyd	XPANSiVE: you'll probably want a lighter desktop environment	04:33
microhaxo	(when replacing the default gnome one)	04:33
zedster	or a quadro 140m system at least	04:33
rumpsy	ayotte: What type of language is that	04:33
linux-padawan	ok then for security reasons i can stop the share by stopping smbd?	04:33
TheEngineer	hey. i just got ubuntu, and am running it on VMware Fusion. i'm trying to install VMware tools on it, but i can't seem to get it to work. anybody know how to get it to work?	04:33
TomV_415	any suggestions about why my window tiles and screens disapeared?	04:33
rww	ubottu: fr \| ayotte	04:33
ubottu	ayotte: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr	04:33
rumpsy	!es	04:33
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	04:33
Neverwill	how do you get it so i can share files with a Windows network?	04:34
rww	rumpsy: it's French ;P	04:34
sacarlson	tonyyarusso: nothing with the word ls /etc/init.d/my nothing there	04:34
rumpsy	lol	04:34
TomV_415	just got back my windows..	04:34
Neverwill	i wana just network the two together so i dont have to burn cd's :/	04:35
TomV_415	had to do with 'visual effects'	04:35
hunger__	neverwill, samba	04:35
hunger__	though, ftp server i think is more stable	04:35
poliwangi	banyuwangi	04:35
linux-padawan	ftp server?	04:36
sacarlson	tonnyyarusso there is a file /usr/bin/mysql but when I run that I get error 2002 can't connect to local mysql server	04:36
linux-padawan	u mean in lieu of samba for file sharing?	04:36
rww	ubottu: id \| poliwangi	04:36
ubottu	poliwangi: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia	04:36
Neverwill	hmm, well I dont have my own ftp, but i am going to look into that Samba	04:36
hunger__	linux, yes'm	04:36
rumpsy	rww: now what lang is that?	04:36
mkquist_	linux-padawan: is it still not working?	04:36
hunger__	neverwill, also, nfs is better than samba too	04:36
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: did you install the mysql server or just the client?	04:36
linux-padawan	oh no it is working perfectly now thanks	04:36
Neverwill	hmmm	04:37
rww	rumpsy: Indonesian, though I cheated and used an IP lookup for that one.	04:37
Neverwill	<---new to linux	04:37
linux-padawan	so i just stop the share by stopping smbd	04:37
sacarlson	tonyyarusso I installed lamp	04:37
hunger__	neverwill, take a look at nfs first, i believe nfs is more stable than samba	04:37
hunger__	neverwill hehe no prob	04:37
sloopy	hunger__, only on a secure local network is nfs better	04:37
Neverwill	okay :)	04:37
tonyyarusso	sacarlson: well, something's still messed up from before. Try doing an install --reinstall of the server package	04:37
sacarlson	tonyyarusso I just ran mysqld-safe and that brings up something	04:37
BLCK_MN	hello	04:37
BLCK_MN	black man here	04:37
mkquist_	linux-padawan: or just open the shares-admin and remove it..	04:37
sacarlson	tonyyarusso now I see a mysqld running	04:38
rumpsy	BLCK_MN: why?	04:38
hunger__	sloopy, really? didn't know that interesting	04:38
hunger__	neverwill: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba	04:38
MTec007	Neverwill: you can set up a ftp server locally if you dont want to fiddle with samba	04:38
linux-padawan	that is way cool	04:38
rww	BLCK_MN: Hello. Do you have an Ubuntu support question?	04:38
BLCK_MN	yes	04:38
zedster	anyone? my ttys are missing and my video drivers cannot write to xorg	04:38
BLCK_MN	i am currently trying to install ORT-8a on Ubuntu version 3.5	04:38
BLCK_MN	i am getting a driver loopback error	04:38
BLCK_MN	what do i do	04:38
hunger__	neverwill, if you ever run into weird issues with not being able to connect bounce smbd on your linux box, usually helps alot	04:38
Neverwill	I may have to do that FTP server thing, i've used FTP before.	04:38
sloopy	hunger__, nfs has simple security is easy to hack with MIM attacks	04:38
hunger__	sloopy, i see, will take note of that	04:39
rww	bazhang: thanks	04:39
pingfloyd	yeah, nfs was never meant for use across untrustworthy networks	04:39
MTec007	Neverwill: samba is more of a solution than ftp but i never had luck with samba	04:39
hunger__	neverwill, yeah i think ftp is easier, or at least less frustrating, but samba is a better solution overall	04:39
sacarlson	tonyyarusso ok will do but I think it's working now I would just have to bring it up manualy	04:39
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zedster	bazhang: you around?	04:40
Neverwill	alright thanks guys	04:40
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hunger__	neverwill did you get that link i sent?	04:40
zealot	bazhang: what was that for?	04:40
mkquist	cantg agree, have no problems with samba at all	04:40
mkquist	cant*	04:40
Alexandra	Hi, is there a way to block spam messages in Empathy?	04:40
zealot	Alexandra: switch to Apathy	04:40
Neverwill	yes indeed	04:40
Alexandra	zealot: Ok, never tried, will do so	04:41
Alexandra	Thanks	04:41
rumpsy	BLCK_MN: what is that software all about?	04:41
sloopy	Neverwill, sharing using samba should be as simple as right click on the folder and setup from there...	04:41
rww	Alexandra: zealot was making a (bad) joke	04:41
zealot	rumpsy: he is banned	04:41
sloopy	Neverwill, using the Sharing options...	04:41
Neverwill	sloopy: alright thanks dude.	04:41
linux-padawan	so how big have u guys seen a root fs get?	04:42
rumpsy	BLCK_MN: but his name is still here, somebody kick this nick	04:42
Neverwill	did the admin-shares command Mkquist told meh about.	04:42
SaEeDIRHA	hi, when i have two directory in my path and in those directories there are two files with same name , but different applications , how can i know which one is that i am executing ?	04:42
rww	rumpsy: He was quieted, not banned.	04:42
rumpsy	oh, okay	04:42
rww	SaEeDIRHA: the one in the directory that's first in the path gets executed	04:42
Alexandra	rww: Well, I realised	04:43
Alexandra	;)	04:43
ULTRASWIPOVER	HELLO	04:43
Neverwill	meeehhh ram = fail in this machine. uber slow	04:43
rww	Alexandra: I can't seem to find a way to block people on Empathy, actually. You might want to try Pidgin, I know it can.	04:43
xlene	hi im having problems installing hardy on my ipadz any help plz?	04:43
rww	Alexandra: or I might just not be looking hard enough. I'm not too good at empathy :(	04:43
linux-padawan	how big u guys seen / fs get? i have a 12 gig partition for it but only using like 33 megs lol	04:44
linux-padawan	300*	04:44
pingfloyd	so few irc clients have decent tab completion	04:44
rww	xlene: Please don't troll in here.	04:44
xlene	whats trolling?	04:44
xlene	sry im new to irc	04:44
Alexandra	rww: Ok, thanks ... and hey, guess what this is not a bad joke ;)	04:44
rww	linux-padawan: 10GB. Of course, that's the size limit of my root partitions, so...	04:44
SaEeDIRHA	rww: thankx alot :)	04:44
Anarki2004	got myself into a pickle here	04:44
sloopy	linux-padawan, mine has been in the 350-400GiB range, but then my /home was on it too then...	04:45
rww	linux-padawan: mine generally sit at or under 5GB. I have /home on a separate partition.	04:45
linux-padawan	see i have a pretty specific partition scheme with /var, /tmp and /home all seperate	04:45
Yvier6	Is there a tutorial available for installing apache solr on ubuntu 8.04?	04:45
Neverwill	So, is this room like an entire chat to get help with anything? or just mainly Ubuntu support since its an Ubuntu channel	04:46
Neverwill	cause i have a few programming questios	04:46
sloopy	Neverwill, ubuntu only...	04:46
RiverRat	Ubuntu. There is a #hardware channel that is more general.	04:46
rww	Neverwill: Ubuntu support only. #ubuntu-offtopic has other discussions, and some programming languages have their own channel.	04:46
rww	Neverwill: which language?	04:46
sloopy	Neverwill, there are other channels for specific languages...	04:46
Neverwill	how do I get to see the list of rooms?	04:47
Neverwill	rww: mainly Python, just starting out :/	04:47
rww	Neverwill: /msg alis help. Alis is a service bot for searching for channels. Some people will recommend /list, which is a bad idea.	04:47
rww	Neverwill: I think #python exists.	04:47
zedster	still having issues, I do not have a tty1-6, its driving me nutz	04:47
sloopy	Neverwill, the list is dangerous to show... often crashes clients due to size, and there is a #python channel	04:47
Neverwill	ahh, I see. need to figure out the ident thing. been sooo long since i've been on IRC	04:48
RiverRat	Neverwill: #Python	04:48
zedster	anyone have any ideas on how to get the tty's working?	04:48
rww	Neverwill: ident thing? Is it telling you that you need to be registered to join?	04:48
Neverwill	* #python :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services	04:49
rww	ubottu: register \| Neverwill	04:49
ubottu	Neverwill: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode	04:49
Neverwill	<3	04:49
linux-padawan	thanks for ur help guys. good night	04:49
Anarki2004	what is the command line i need to install an irc client from the terminal window? i am using "sudo apt-get install xchat" but that doesn't work. furthermore, i can't get the software sources app to open i think because i'm booted from live.	04:49
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gdbc	jsj	04:49
rww	Anarki2004: That should install Xchat. What "doesn't work" about it?	04:50
andrewsd	hey all	04:50
RiverRat	I have a problem when typing in passwords. The keyboard doesn't work right on my laptop. Logging in or using gnome-keyring. Any ideas on which package I should re-install to get that working?	04:50
andrewsd	anybody experienced thunderbird 3.0 100% cpu lock-up on quit?	04:50
Anarki2004	e: couldn't find package	04:50
rww	Anarki2004: do "sudo apt-get update" first	04:50
Anarki2004	still a nogo	04:51
RiverRat	Doesn't he need to reboot to the system instead of the live CD first?	04:51
Anarki2004	i may have seriously botched my installation of ubuntu	04:51
andrewsd	Anybody here using thunderbird getting 100% CPU usage freezing on exit?	04:51
zedster	buller? anyone? I have no virtual terminals running	04:51
Anarki2004	failing is my real problem	04:52
zedster	andrewsd: have you ran it in safe mode at least once?	04:52
xlene	OMG I CANT STOP TYPING IN COLORS	04:52
rww	Anarki2004: copy the entire output of "sudo apt-get update" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link the page it creates here.	04:52
rww	xlene: this channel blocks colors.	04:52
neverwill	lawl	04:52
Anarki2004	yeah, thing is i'm using my phone right now	04:52
Rubby	Hey all, quick question, is there a command that you can hit that will list system specs? Ram, processor, that sort of fun	04:53
rww	Anarki2004: ah, okay. Do you see "universe" somewhere in the output?	04:53
andrewsd	zedster: trying now	04:53
xlene	well why cant i stop the colors one of you guys have hacked me havent you	04:53
Anarki2004	because i have a different, more complex problem...	04:53
rww	Rubby: "lshw" has way more than you want to know :)	04:53
mrpink57	who had the tty problem?	04:53
Rubby	Thanks kindly Rww	04:54
emes	i frequently have issues with the adobe pdf plugin in firefox where i have to restart firefox to get it to work. how can i fix this? or what alternatives are there?	04:54
neverwill	Verified :D	04:54
zedster	mrpink57: me	04:54
mrpink57	zedster: have you checked your inttab?	04:54
Anarki2004	no universe	04:54
zedster	mrpink57: no, what should I look for?	04:54
rww	Anarki2004: that's why it's not finding it, then.	04:54
andrewsd	zedster: Hmm, not sure if it made a difference - perhaps?	04:55
mrpink57	zedster: near the bottom you should see your tty's its an obvious	04:55
rww	Anarki2004: Try installing "xchat-gnome" instead. It's rather annoying, but it's in main so you should have it.	04:55
andrewsd	zedster: I'm curious... have you heard reports of the safe mode fixing 100% cpu issues on exit (I don't use plugins btw)	04:55
Anarki2004	ok	04:55
mrpink57	zedster: basically it should show telling tty to run in runlevels	04:55
Anarki2004	i think that did it	04:56
zedster	andrewsd: no, just normally if the problem doesn't occur in safe mode it is diagnostically relevant	04:56
zedster	mrpink57: how do I access it?	04:56
mrpink57	sudo gedit /etc/inittab	04:56
mrpink57	zedster: don't go monking around in there too much, just look for your tty	04:57
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DrkShadow	what can I play mp3's with? Amarok takes too much space for my poor netbook, tomem is installed.. but.. huh? I don't know where. Is there anything with at least a simple playlist that I can use? I'm about to just use mpg123.	04:57
rww	mrpink57: as a general rule, we prefer to recommend gksudo over sudo for graphical commands	04:57
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Anarki2004	ahhhh	04:57
mrpink57	rww: ok I use Arch so it's all different	04:57
Anarki2004	a real keyboard :-D	04:57
Anarki2004	now onto my bigger problem: GRUB	04:57
Anarki2004	or do I need to go to a grub support chan for that	04:58
mneptok	mrpink57: you should still use gksu instead of sudo for GTK apps in Arch	04:58
mrpink57	DrkShadow: see if you can install cmus its written in C and easy to use all CLI though	04:58
rww	Anarki2004: You can ask here. I'm not very good with GRUB, but someone else might know.	04:58
zedster	mrpink57: I don;t have any /etc/inttab file	04:58
rww	zedster: it's inittab, not inttab	04:58
Anarki2004	ok then	04:58
Anarki2004	got to figure out how to word all this	04:59
mneptok	DrkShadow: try Audacious	04:59
sherri	hi	04:59
zedster	rww: still nothing	04:59
mrpink57	mneptok: gksudo is not a command for me, I use dwm.	04:59
sherri	any one here	04:59
rww	sherri: hi!	04:59
mrpink57	!ask	04:59
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	04:59
sherri	hi	04:59
rumpsy	sherri: Anyone!, what you want from anyone?	05:00
mrpink57	!give sherri ask	05:00
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:00
rww	zedster: ah. I've got no idea, just happened to know that file name :)	05:00
sherri	what is this that i am in right now	05:00
mrpink57	zedster: where you able to open your inittab?	05:00
zedster	mrpink57: I think inittab is no longer used	05:00
rww	sherri: the technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux	05:00
zedster	mrpink57: no	05:00
mneptok	mrpink57: easy on the !ask trigger, please	05:00
rww	mrpink57: the syntax for sending a factoid to a user is "!factoid \| user" to do it in-channel, or "!factoid > user" to send a PM, btw.	05:01
sherri	this is not a chat room im looking for chat rooms on ubuntu now	05:01
Anarki2004	hmm...well to put it simply grub goes into "grub rescue" mode when i try to boot	05:01
mneptok	sherri: try #ubuntu-offtopic	05:01
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sherri	ok ty	05:02
mrpink57	zedster: apparently ubuntu does not use a inittab they use what is called upstart and its in /etc/event.d/rc-default	05:02
zedster	mrpink57: upstart replaced inittab	05:02
zedster	lol	05:02
mrpink57	zedster: however I do not know if the file follows the same setup as a standard inittab	05:02
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sherri	can i do it from here or do i got to sign out and then sign back in	05:03
mkquist_	sherri: just clik on it	05:03
rww	sherri: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic in the same place you're typing messages	05:03
rumpsy	sherri: click this word, #ubuntu-offtopic	05:03
bazhang	sherri, /join #channelname	05:03
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rww	ubottu: away > chibi_sleep	05:04
ubottu	chibi_sleep, please see my private message	05:04
zedster	mrpink57: still not finding it	05:04
mrpink57	zedster: there is nothing under what I gave /etc/event.d/rc-default?	05:05
mrb427	hey all, would anyone please save my life and tell me whats wrong with my if loop? http://codepad.org/a1ef6XFk	05:05
mrb427	for some reason best1 always equals 102	05:05
neverwill	Anyone: i did the Share-admin command in terminal> downloaded and installed packages> now it just repeats. Said it was done installing..	05:05
zedster	mrpink57: no, no event.d directory	05:05
mrpink57	zedster: try locate rc-default	05:06
rww	mrpink57: which language?	05:06
rww	mrpink57: sorry, mistab	05:06
rww	mrb427: which language is that?	05:06
zedster	mrpink57: nothing	05:06
mrpink57	zedster: either it has been chagned or you do not have something you need. this is where I give you some money for gas and we go our seperate ways.	05:07
zedster	mrpink57: thanks for the help	05:07
sovi3t	zedster, ttys are inited in /etc/init/tty[1-6].conf i think	05:07
zedster	sovi3t: they are there	05:07
zedster	they just don't run	05:07
mrpink57	i want my gas money back...	05:07
emes	i frequently have issues with the adobe pdf plugin in firefox where i have to restart firefox to get it to work. how can i fix this? or what alternatives are there?	05:07
zedster	when I click on the screen I get a blinking courser	05:07
* zedster gives mrpink57 his money and copy of reservoir dogs back		05:08
sc_woes	can someone help me install pygtk or otherwise fix the software center so it will work again?	05:08
mrpink57	maybe pastebin the file that may help	05:08
sovi3t	zedster, i'm assuming that x starts?	05:08
ouyes	i want to add two shortcuts of display desktop and open home folder (also lock screen ctrl+alt+L,)in xubuntu, i do not know the command name of the two ,who can tell me ?	05:08
zedster	sovi3t: yes	05:09
sc_woes	my comp crashed while updating pygtk and now software center won't load	05:09
sovi3t	zedster, i think i've had that issue before. one sec	05:09
unixalot	emes: Have you tried using foxit reader for firefox??	05:10
emes	unixalot: is that in the ubuntu repositories?	05:11
unixalot	emes: no its a addon for firefox, works well and is fast	05:11
sc_woes	i like it	05:11
novemberhascome2	I have a hard drive that isn't showing in neither Windows nor Linux though lsusb changes when I plug it in. Any suggestions?	05:12
sc_woes	course its starting to bloat too	05:12
sc_woes	hey ubuntuologist	05:12
zedster	novemberhascome2: does it show up in mount or if you run something like gparted?	05:12
sc_woes	are you ologist enough to help me reinstall software_center?	05:12
novemberhascome2	zedster: It doesn't show in /dev.	05:13
EliasAmaral	sc_woes, there is a command to fix most issues.. hmmm.. what about trying sudo apt-get install -f	05:13
zedster	novemberhascome2: in lsusb don't you get the mount point?	05:13
EliasAmaral	-f stands for 'fix broken'	05:13
sc_woes	c'mon i'm not that stupid	05:13
onetinsoldier	emes: another alternative is 'evince'. it's in the repo. you might have it installed already	05:13
zedster	novemberhascome2: also make sure its not a hardware issue if its an external hd and not flash, could be a loose ide/sata	05:14
sc_woes	that string doesn't even specify what to fix	05:14
EliasAmaral	well, this command is syntactically valid	05:14
unixalot	what do you type to see all the available channels to join??	05:14
* unixalot nvm		05:15
RiverRat	Anyone know how to fix this: Gtk-Message **: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 54, <> line 19.	05:15
EliasAmaral	and sometimes apt-get itself recommends it (whenever it smells a broken repository)	05:15
novemberhascome2	zedster: in lsusb the line that I see is Bus 001 Device 006: ID 13fd:1617 Initio Corporation that relates to that line.	05:15
sc_woes	but it seems to me that command is going to change a lot of stuff	05:15
novemberhascome2	zedster: Do you want to see the -vv for that device?	05:15
RiverRat	Like which package provides that library?	05:16
novemberhascome2	zedster: Furthermore it doesn't show in GParted.	05:16
onetinsoldier	RiverRat: bug-buddy	05:16
sc_woes	just judging from the top google results saying things like, "sudo apt-get install -f ruined my computer" etc	05:16
zedster	novemberhascome2: not sure it would help me help you, I still think hardware is the most likely issue	05:16
RiverRat	thanks	05:16
onetinsoldier	yw	05:16
sc_woes	i'm a newb to ubuntu but that doesn't mean i'm new to computers :)	05:16
novemberhascome2	zedster: I am in agreement.	05:16
zedster	novemberhascome2: as I said open the drive and make sure the hdd is seated	05:17
EliasAmaral	i didn't meant to say something malicious. but maybe apt-get has a dry run	05:17
novemberhascome2	zedster: Well, I just updated the firmware for the drive.	05:17
sc_woes	well here's my problem far as i can tell	05:17
sc_woes	owner@owner-desktop:~$ software-center Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/software-center", line 25, in <module> import pygtk ImportError: No module named pygtk owner@owner-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get pygtk E: Invalid operation pygtk	05:17
zedster	novemberhascome2: it worked before that?	05:17
emes	unixalot: do you have a link to this?	05:17
EliasAmaral	o.o	05:17
novemberhascome2	zedster: Yes.	05:17
EliasAmaral	sc_woes, what about sudo apt-get install pygtk	05:18
zedster	novemberhascome2: hmm... see if the drive has a battery and pull it is the only thing I can think of, or find the manual and see if it has how to recover from a bad flash	05:18
unixalot	emes: yeah i can find a link,one sec.	05:18
EliasAmaral	sudo apt-get --dry-run install pygtk , if you prefer	05:18
EliasAmaral	^^	05:18
sc_woes	owner@owner-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install pygtk [sudo] password for owner: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package pygtk owner@owner-desktop:~$	05:18
zedster	sovi3t: you still around?	05:19
Blue11	can anyone confirm that apache web server will no longer be supported?	05:19
EliasAmaral	sc_woes, apt-cache search pygtk	05:19
sovi3t	zedster, yep	05:19
sc_woes	oh now EliasAmaral, that's a big result	05:20
Myke516	hey everyone	05:20
sc_woes	big list of progs	05:20
sovi3t	zedster, just trying to remember how i fixed it, or even if an update did it for me	05:20
novemberhascome2	zedster: Got it! I just had to unpower and power the device.	05:20
novemberhascome2	Thanks man.	05:20
zedster	no prob	05:20
EliasAmaral	sc_woes, and maybe what you need isn't in this list.. nmm	05:20
sc_woes	argh	05:21
sc_woes	well the thing is, I can't use software center because it dies quietly every time i try to start	05:21
EliasAmaral	a guess: python-gtk2	05:21
sc_woes	and apparently it's trying to call pygtk, but can't find it	05:21
sc_woes	so maybe there's a .cfg we can edit to remove that call?	05:21
sc_woes	i'll try that, Elias	05:21
zedster	sovi3t: I'm going to reboot and come back in, I tried reinstall upstart so we'll see what happens	05:21
EliasAmaral	sc_woes, yes, it seems that a fundamental part of it (that gtk bindings for python) is missing or corrupted	05:21
sc_woes	yeah	05:22
sc_woes	it crashed when it was updating py	05:22
ociugi	how to mount my usb disk automatically. before, it was mounted automatically but now it is not, i don't know the reasons why	05:22
sc_woes	and now i'm supposed to be writing a frickin MyPLC extension in Py for my research proj	05:22
sc_woes	and i'm a total ubuntu newb :(	05:22
neverwill	same here bro	05:23
EliasAmaral	sc_woes, i searched with: apt-cache search gtk\|grep ^python\|grep gtk (apt-cache itself has something like.. apt-cache search '^python.*gtk', but it doesn't show up exactly what grep would.. and has no coloring :P)	05:23
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EliasAmaral	sc_woes, myplc?	05:23
sc_woes	hmm okay well right now it's installing pythongtk2-dev, which is listed as having the bindings	05:23
wysiwyg	rc.webchat.org	05:23
sc_woes	so here's to hoping	05:23
EliasAmaral	-dev..?	05:24
sc_woes	yeah i'm hoping the developer's pack will have the bindings that it's calling? I dunno	05:24
sc_woes	wishin an prayin here	05:25
sc_woes	EliasAmaral, this is MyPLC http://www.planet-lab.org/	05:25
sc_woes	research framework for I2/NLR	05:25
unixalot	emes: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/58592	05:25
zedster	sovi3t: well that failed	05:26
EliasAmaral	i am not quite sure o.o but i bet that if there is a separate -dev, that's for C source code files that will be compiled (that will glue python with the GTK+ library written in C). maybe you need python-gtk2. but i am not sure either	05:26
sc_woes	well hell	05:26
pepee	hi	05:27
sovi3t	zedster, have you tried starting a tty manually? sudo start tty2	05:27
zedster	sovi3t: that works	05:28
rww	Blue11: Which version of it?	05:28
sovi3t	zedster, can you pastebin your /etc/default/console-setup	05:30
rww	Blue11: Ubuntu hasn't supported apache1 (the version that Apache itself recently stopped supporting) since dapper. apache2 is still supported.	05:30
Myke516	anyone know what a good free and open-sourced program i could use to record my computer screen? I'd liek to make a recording/video of my screen so i can show others how to install things and do other Ubuntu related things	05:30
rww	ubottu: screencast \| Myke516	05:30
ubottu	Myke516: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Xvidcap, pyvnc2swf. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.	05:30
sc_woes	good lord Myke516 I hope you find it	05:30
Blue11	rww: this is a really badly worded article: http://apache.slashdot.org/story/10/02/03/2052211/The-Final-Release-of-Apache-HTTP-Server-13?from=rss	05:31
zedster	sovi3t: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d1890e88c	05:31
Myke516	Thanks :)	05:31
rww	Blue11: Right. Apache declared end of life on their version 1.3. Version 2 has existed for a long, long time. Ubuntu hasn't supported the version 1 series for years.	05:32
ravenxbishop1	hi	05:32
irfan_	how to make a voice chat in gyachi ?	05:32
MajinHeartless	Hi.Suddenly I can't send/receive e-mails with Evolution. The button turned gray... do you guys know why?	05:32
ravenxbishop1	need some help with porting drivers	05:32
sovi3t	zedster, so that looks right.	05:32
rww	well. Dapper is still supported on server, so I guess they kinda do. But it hasn't been shipped in a new release since then.	05:32
Blue11	rww: apparently I wasn't the only one that thought this was the death of apache -- - it's a badly worded article.....I checked to see what I have installed and it's v 2.2 --	05:32
ravenxbishop1	anyone know where i can get help porting drivers?	05:33
zedster	sovi3t: I think its something between xorg, grub2, and my nvidia drivers but I cannot nail it down	05:33
rww	Blue11: That's Slashdot for you. 2.2 is fine and supported.	05:33
zedster	ravenxbishop1: what drivers? most projects like that will show up on something like google code	05:33
Blue11	rww: indeed! Thanks for the confirmation though -- and I'm very very glad I mis-interpretted that - but from the looks of it, a lot of people did too!	05:34
zmanning	woo hoo! new laptop!	05:34
irfan_	any body know ?	05:34
rww	Blue11: no problem. Glad I could be of help :)	05:34
zmanning	fresh ubuntu install	05:34
dabaR	majinheartless u restarted it?	05:34
zedster	sovi3t: when I run "runlevel" I get unknown as the output	05:34
MajinHeartless	Hi.Suddenly I can't send/receive e-mails with Evolution. The button turned gray... do you guys know why?	05:34
irfan_	how to make voice chat in gyachi ?	05:34
ravenxbishop1	zedster> it doesnt have ported drivers :) someone will have to do it ...	05:34
MajinHeartless	yes Dabar I did	05:34
MajinHeartless	two times	05:34
samt	i installed windowxp and debain daily. after rebooted i don't see windowxp on the menu options. can anybody help me with this. thanks	05:34
zedster	ravenxbishop1: what hardware is it?	05:34
MajinHeartless	never happened before	05:34
ravenxbishop1	aardvark sound cards	05:34
bazhang	samt, #debian for debian support	05:35
Blue11	zedster: they are called init - do a man init	05:35
zedster	Blue11: ??	05:35
webwanderer	How can I disable window decorations on docapps under openbox?	05:35
dabaR	did you go offline - bottom left	05:35
Blue11	zedster: init lets you set the runlevel --	05:36
ravenxbishop1	zedster> its not going to have a port, aardvark sound cards... many people want the drivers ported. but so far as i can find none have been	05:36
webwanderer	Does anybody use openbox in here?	05:36
gawk	samt: hopefully you did not accidentally overwrite that partition ;)	05:36
samt	no	05:36
nytek_	webwanderer: xmonad all the way	05:36
webwanderer	:(	05:36
MajinHeartless	I can't send e-mails neither. When I click on Send it keeps in the outbox.... it was working fine a while ago	05:36
sovi3t	zedster, it wouldn't be x. grub2 is a possibility. try uncommenting GRUB_GFXMODE in /etc/default/grub doing an update-grub and rebooting	05:36
nytek_	webwanderer: what are you trying to do webwanderer?	05:36
dabaR	samt fix grub	05:37
Blue11	MajinHeartless: sounds like your smtp server may be dead	05:37
webwanderer	nytek_: My dockapp shows a window decoration.	05:37
samt	how d id do that?	05:37
jokehead	could anyone tell me how to bridge two connections?	05:37
webwanderer	I can't find a way to disable it.	05:37
MajinHeartless	Bluedll nop is not... just tried on a laptop with Ubuntu and work fine	05:37
bazhang	samt, is ubuntu installed on there as well? if so, which version	05:37
nytek_	webwanderer: as in like cairo?	05:37
MajinHeartless	I have five e-mails there...	05:37
irfan_	help me plz	05:37
samt	no	05:37
jokehead	!bridge	05:37
zmanning	anyone have a good link for best first steps for a fresh ubuntu install?	05:37
pren	hi. where are firefox plugin located? i looked in ~/.mozilla/plugins there is nothing there	05:37
dabaR	samt google and #debian	05:37
bazhang	samt, then this is the wrong channel; #debian for debian support	05:38
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ravenxbishop1	noone have any good ideas for finding people who port drivers?	05:38
samt	ok	05:38
webwanderer	nytek_: No, it shows a title bar. Which it shouldn't.	05:38
Blue11	zmanning: backup /etc/ and /home/ first	05:38
dabaR	majinheartless you might be in offline mode	05:38
samt	but nobody talking there right now. so i thought i try you guys	05:38
samt	thanks anyway	05:38
nytek_	webwanderer: hmm, im not familiar with openbox. im sorry, trying the openbox channel	05:39
jokehead	could anyone tell me how to bridge two connections?	05:39
noric	I am developing a gnome applet. I would like to add it to my ubuntu gnome panel, without "make install"	05:39
dabaR	samt google fix grub debian windows	05:39
samt	ok thanks i will try to give it a try	05:39
dabaR	!ics	05:40
noric	As far as I know, the only way to add an applet to the panel is to right click and "Add to Panel". I'm wondering if there is a way I can do it from file ??	05:40
ubottu	If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php	05:40
webwanderer	nytek_: Thanks	05:40
jokehead	dabaR, was that for me?	05:40
MajinHeartless	lol dabar thanks... I tried to re-install it from Synpatics and same issue... lol, it's changed alone xD It's fixed... I've been 6 whole years without even a windows partition-wine... never happened before	05:40
dabaR	Jokehead yup	05:40
jokehead	dabaR, that's not what i meant	05:40
MajinHeartless	thanks guys	05:41
bazhang	jokehead, is this irkep from before?	05:41
dabaR	yw	05:42
jokehead	bazhang, yes	05:42
bazhang	jokehead, and you read the ubuntu help guide?	05:42
jokehead	that is for a no longer supported version of ubuntu	05:42
zmanning	Blue11, thanks	05:43
jokehead	bazhang that is for a no longer supported version of ubuntu	05:44
Blue11	zmanning: i know that seems trite - but if you screw anything up, you have a path back to the way it was before you messed it up.	05:44
noric	I'm working with a gnome-applet. make install was supposed to add the applet to the "Add to Panel" menu, but it did not. How can I add it manually?	05:45
zmanning	Blue11, yeah im pretty confident im not going to delete the whole etc dir as ive done that before	05:45
sc_woes	can anyone help me fix this error?	05:45
sc_woes	owner@owner-desktop:~$ software-center Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/software-center", line 25, in <module> import pygtk ImportError: No module named pygtk owner@owner-desktop:~$	05:45
Blue11	zmanning: I've done worser!	05:45
zmanning	Blue11, yeah i tried using a mac for around a year or so. came crawling back to ubuntu. i missed it.	05:46
jokehead	bazhang?	05:46
nsgn	in empathy i'm trying to get a mail filter/rule to execute a shell script. it performs other actions attached to the same filter rule, but ignores launching the shell script. the shell script can be launched exactly as is manually	05:46
Blue11	zmanning: also this helps: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=66	05:46
dabaR	sc_woes open a terminal run python	05:46
nsgn	*evolution, dangit	05:46
nsgn	evolution	05:46
jokehead	could anyone tell me how to bridge two connections?	05:46
sc_woes	dabaR done, running py	05:46
nsgn	can't launch a shell script from a filter in evolution using it's "run program" outcome"	05:46
sc_woes	owner@owner-desktop:~$ python Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Dec 7 2009, 18:45:15) [GCC 4.4.1] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>	05:47
dabaR	sc type import pygtk	05:47
dabaR	it should error	05:47
sc_woes	dabaR Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> ImportError: No module named pygtk >>>	05:47
RiverRat	How can I find out which package provides a library? Say /usr/lib/libX11.so.6	05:48
zmanning	Blue11, haha thanks	05:48
dabaR	now run in another terminal aptitude search python \| grep gym	05:48
jokehead	HELLO	05:48
futurama140	hey could someone help me with a very complex graphics card issue?	05:49
dabaR	not gym gtk	05:49
nsgn	anyone on why a shell script won't launch from a mail rule in evolution?	05:49
zmanning	so if i were installing an application like songbird, where would i put the install files /usr/lib?	05:49
jokehead	could anyone tell me how to bridge two connections?	05:49
jokehead	HELLO	05:49
sc_woes	dabaR big old list	05:49
zmanning	jokehead, http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+bridge+two+connections&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a ?	05:50
zmanning	jokehead, whoops: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge	05:50
pingfloyd	or install a switch	05:50
futurama140	hey could someone help me with a very complex graphics card issue?	05:50
jokehead	zmanning, that is for an expired version of ubuntu	05:50
dabaR	sc what about python-gnome	05:50
bazhang	!info bridge-utils \| jokehead	05:50
ubottu	jokehead: bridge-utils (source: bridge-utils): Utilities for configuring the Linux Ethernet bridge. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4-5 (karmic), package size 30 kB, installed size 172 kB	05:50
pingfloyd	futurama140: haha, you again :P	05:50
IdleOne	futurama140: ask your next question. the real one.	05:51
sc_woes	dabaR what about it? i don't know what you're asking.	05:51
sc_woes	sorry	05:51
bazhang	futurama140, please ask	05:51
defendguin1	i'm getting a message in my notification area that my display server is broken	05:51
dabaR	it is installed if the line starts with I	05:51
pingfloyd	IdleOne: he just got done with throwing a tantrum in another channel	05:51
dabaR	sc is it?	05:51
RiverRat	How can I find out which package provides a library? Say /usr/lib/libX11.so.6	05:51
defendguin1	it says to read this person's blog but that doesn't tell me anything about fixing it	05:51
sc_woes	no i dont even see it	05:51
sc_woes	dabaR	05:51
RiverRat	Is there a good search tool for installed files I can query?	05:52
IdleOne	pingfloyd: that was there, this is here. hopefully futurama140 will know better :)	05:52
sc_woes	dabaR we go from galago to gtk	05:52
sc_woes	dabaR owner@owner-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get python-gnome [sudo] password for owner: E: Invalid operation python-gnome owner@owner-desktop:~$	05:52
pingfloyd	IdleOne: he got mad because he was told to ask his question instead of beating around the bush and playing games	05:53
bazhang	jokehead, if you are referring to a wired and wireless connection bridge there are a number of threads at ubuntuforums on that	05:53
nameo0	how do i found out if im running a 32 or 64-bit os?	05:53
yumte	any can help me about install debian via network and nfs server.....?????????	05:53
Flannel	sc_woes: sudo apt-get install python-gnome (you forget the instlal)	05:53
defendguin1	http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/ anyone know about this issue?	05:54
bazhang	yumte, #debian for debian support	05:54
IdleOne	zmanning: I believe the songbird site has instruction on installing to ubuntu with an easy to use .deb file	05:54
dabaR	sc sudo aptitude install pygtk	05:54
ubuntologist	nameo0 - from the command line, type uname -a	05:54
zmanning	IdleOne, for general reference though, would that be the correct location?	05:54
futurama140	IdleOne: i just bought a new nvidia graphics card to replace an unsupported card in ubuntu, anytime i ran a 3d accelerated program, the screen would flash black. i tried about 7 different drivers to no avail. i was trolled into erasing my ubuntu, so i re-installed windows, and i used a new monitor. i just picked up a new monitor and now the flicker is back with 3d stuff. ive tried several power supplies, many drivers, TWO diff	05:55
IdleOne	zmanning: /opt I believe is a better location. I might be wrong. I don't normally compile	05:55
McShane	is there any way I can instruct apt or aptitude to remove all packages that were installed within a certain time frame?	05:55
sc_woes	dabaR, weird message, but it's working, check this out - 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 19 to remove and 38 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 117MB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y	05:55
futurama140	IdleOne: do. i have no idea what the problem is or how to fix it. i could go into a lot more detail but with that other guy here i just dont feel like it would be worthwhile.	05:56
nameo0	ubuntologist: it did not tell if its 64 or 32 bit	05:56
q0_0p	McShane, yes with cron	05:56
dabaR	sc not exactly as expected . what did you do to mess it up?	05:56
zmanning	IdleOne, no no im not looking to compile. lets say i was just installing it outside of any deb file or repository. where would be the best location?	05:56
Flannel	zmanning: /usr/local/*	05:57
sc_woes	dabaR, it finished with a HUGE number of warnings, and as soon as it finished, Update Manager popped up saying it wants to install gtk2.0, should i let it?	05:57
ubuntologist	nameo0 - should do. uname -m may narrow it down. if not x86_64, it's 32-bit	05:57
dabaR	sc sudo aptitude -f install after	05:57
zmanning	Flannel, excellent, thanks!	05:57
dabaR	yes	05:57
sc_woes	dabar it got messed up when it crashed (random freeze) while installing python dev kit	05:57
Flannel	zmanning: /opt/ is for special 'package' type things, that don't follow the general /bin/ /lib/ sort of directory stuff	05:57
nameo0	ubuntologist: it prints out i686	05:57
dabaR	sc weird	05:58
zmanning	Flannel, so why is an app like firefox in /usr/lib?	05:58
dabaR	sc it will likely fix itself now	05:58
sc_woes	dabaR yeah i haven't been able to run software_center (hence my name) or Update Manager since then	05:58
IdleOne	futurama140: I can point you to the ubuntu wiki page that covers nvidia cards but I can't help you more then that. I suggest trying to trim down your question. give the channel your graphics card info and someone should be able to help	05:58
sc_woes	and i really need to use python!!!! :)	05:58
dabaR	sc installation in progress?	05:59
futurama140	IdleOne: ok, well thanks anyway.	05:59
sc_woes	dabaR yup 5 min remaining	05:59
Flannel	zmanning: Because firefox has issues. #ubuntu-mozillateam might be able to shed some light on that.	05:59
dabaR	k let me know	05:59
sc_woes	it's downloading and i've got some torrents in the background so it'll be a bit	05:59
yumte	any can help me about install debian via network and nfs server.....?????????	06:00
sc_woes	thanks for all your help so far man	06:00
sc_woes	i really appreciate it	06:00
IdleOne	!nividia > futurama140	06:00
IdleOne	!nvidia > futurama140	06:00
ubottu	futurama140, please see my private message	06:00
zmanning	Flannel, haha alright	06:00
yumte	any can help me about install debian via network and nfs server.....?????????	06:00
rww	yumte: Debian support in #debian	06:00
bazhang	yumte, ubuntu involved in that somehow?	06:00
phong_	hello	06:00
zmanning	Flannel, so like /usr/local/share would be the right location?	06:00
Blue11	it there anyway to determine what programme has a device locked so it can't dismount?	06:01
ubuntologist	nameo0 - try sudo lshw -class cpu	06:01
Flannel	zmanning: /usr/share goes to /usr/local/share (/usr/* -> usr/local/*) yeah.	06:01
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nameo0	ubuntologist - would it be under width?	06:03
zmanning	Flannel, yeah it just doesnt seem like the right place to place applications. so I would created a folder like /usr/local/share/songbird/ ?	06:03
ubuntologist	that's it...width	06:03
nameo0	k thy	06:03
devrethman	What's a command to sort things in intuitive order. I.E. image-2.png comes before image-10.png	06:03
devrethman	?	06:03
CR	having some trouble with msfcli i get a connection but then nothing happens	06:04
pingfloyd	devrethman: sort	06:05
sc_woes	dabaR i am happy to say that software center works	06:05
Blue11	why won't this device dismount?	06:05
dabaR	cool	06:05
devrethman	pingfloyd: With what options? All the ones I've tried sort them in pure alphabetical order.	06:05
pingfloyd	devrethman: -gd maybe, you'll have to experiment	06:06
dabaR	sc sudo aptitude -f install tends to fix package trouble	06:06
sovi3t	Blue11 lsof /dev/[device]	06:06
sc_woes	dabaR does it just run through all the packages and compare to their hash or what?	06:07
iflema	Blue11 fuser -vm /dev/sr0	06:07
nameo0	whats the difference between creating a disc from the contents of an iso or with the iso file inside?	06:07
devrethman	It won't allow me to sort things with multiple sorting order options. It says the options are incompatable.	06:07
dabaR	sc no idea	06:07
noric	Nice. I compiled this gnome-applet, managed to install and add it to my gnome-panel, but it was crashing. Managed to use gdb to modify the stdout file descriptor so I could read the error message. Pasted it into google, came up with a bug, just had to install a missing dependency :)	06:07
noric	Yay technology	06:07
devrethman	and none of the options it provides are right.	06:07
sc_woes	what does this do? sudo apt-get install -f	06:08
m0ar	sc_woes: man apt-get	06:08
noric	So uh, gnome-voice-control is an applet that lets you execute "RUN TERMINAL" and other hardcoded commands into your mic.	06:08
EliasAmaral	sudo apt-get --dry-run install -f	06:08
noric	Now that I have it building and running, I'm modifying the hardcoded list of voice commands to read a config file.	06:09
noric	By tomorrow I should be able to say "computer play music"	06:09
EliasAmaral	it will show what it will do, without actually doing anything	06:09
noric	huzzah	06:09
nameo0	can someone please help me with burning an iso to a cd	06:09
nameo0	?	06:09
sovi3t	noric lol	06:09
Blue11	sovi3t: that didn't work	06:09
spiffythekid__	sup	06:09
iflema	Blue11 fuser -vm /dev/sr0... thatll show PID of app using the block device.... sr0 should be right unless you got multiple roms	06:09
Blue11	iflema: that didn't work either	06:09
EliasAmaral	nameo0, do you know of a program named brasero?	06:09
sovi3t	Blue11 - didn't list anything?	06:09
wickwire_	\quit	06:09
noric	Actually Gnome has no out-of-the-box voice recognition; no simple voice->command mapping. hopefully I can make this my first open source patch lol	06:09
Blue11	iflema: it's /dev/sdc	06:09
iflema	Blue11 if there is no output from fuser then no app is holding it....	06:10
nameo0	eliasAmaral: ya i need help with it	06:10
EliasAmaral	nameo0, it's installed by default on ubuntu 9.10 - tools, sound and video, brasero disk burner (but it works for data cds/dvds too)	06:10
Blue11	now it unmounts	06:10
nameo0	please message me EliasAmaral	06:10
EliasAmaral	nameo0, so ask your question	06:11
nytek_	what does gnome call the power settings?	06:11
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LasBuntu	how do I stop Gnome panels from loading in KDE?	06:11
zmanning	so no one knows where application files should actually go? im just trying to get an idea of best practice	06:11
nytek_	gnome-power-settings?	06:11
EliasAmaral	nameo0, I must help you in the public channel, sorry	06:11
LasBuntu	I just went from Gnome to KDE and i'm still seeing the old panels in the new KDE desktop	06:11
EliasAmaral	nameo0, that's because if i say something wrong, someone can correct me	06:11
chelz	is there some way to look at a list of updates released for ubuntu and filter so that only the ones requiring restarts are shown?	06:11
ubuntologist	nameo0 - if brasero doesn't work for u, try k3b - i found it to work where brasero didn't	06:11
nameo0	Elias: basically i can only open the cd and then mount the file	06:12
nameo0	i cant do it strait from the program	06:12
philien	Hi are anybody from the translation team ?	06:12
EliasAmaral	nameo0, now I don't understand you. what you want to do? to clone a cd?	06:12
iflema	Blue11 by the way.... a sudo infront of fuser is best practice	06:13
IdleOne	!purekde \| LasBuntu	06:13
ubottu	LasBuntu: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »	06:13
chelz	nameo0: from the main Brasero window, right after you open it, there's "Burn image"	06:13
Blue11	iflema: indeed now trying to mount the partition read/write	06:13
philien	Are anybody from the translation team ?	06:13
LasBuntu	IdleOne: no, I just want to stop the gnome-panel from loading	06:13
nameo0	elias: i want to burn an image onto a cd but brasero will not recognize the cd unless i open the cd with it	06:13
philien	Are anybody from the translation team ?	06:13
philien	Are there anybody from the translation team ?	06:14
Blue11	iflema: not happy with this: sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /media/sansa	06:14
IdleOne	LasBuntu: gnome-panel is loading when you chose KDE at the login menu?	06:14
nameo0	nvm now it recognizes	06:14
nameo0	thy for the help	06:14
philien	Nameo0 - Are you in the translation team ?	06:15
nameo0	no	06:15
nameo0	but i speak fluant polish if that helps	06:15
iflema	Blue11 vfat can get lost..... sorry about earlier for some reason i assumed cdrom..	06:15
EliasAmaral	nameo0, Hmmm o.o what do you mean by "unless i open the cd with it"? maybe it's my poor english or something	06:15
spiffythekid	hey guys	06:15
philien	Nameo0 - I want to translate Ubuntu's CD	06:16
Blue11	iflema: i am trying to mount my sansa fuse (vfat) as read write - it defaults to read only - and no es muy bueno	06:16
chelz	EliasAmaral: when a CD is inserted a window pops up asking what program should be launched to interact with it. it's been that way since at least intrepid	06:16
nameo0	Elias: nvm just brasero took a long time to recognize that there was a cd	06:16
chelz	Blue11: if something can be mounted rw, it usually is by default. are you sure there's no write protect switch on the device itself? or perhaps an option in its menu?	06:17
iflema	Blue11 mmm... not sure... gksu nautilus?!?!?!	06:17
devrethman	Does anybody offhand know how to use imagemagick (or anything else) to combine a bunch of PNGs into pages of a PDF?	06:17
Blue11	chelz: dunno I'll look into that	06:17
EliasAmaral	hmmmmm. if you select brasero in the pop up that asks for what to do with a blank disk, it can burn normally nameo0?	06:17
nameo0	elais: its all good now	06:18
sovi3t	devrethman see tiffcp and tiff2pdf	06:18
chelz	devrethman: this is one way: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/35022	06:19
sovi3t	devrethman make that libtiff-tools	06:19
infid	what's more stable, gnome or kde?	06:19
sovi3t	infid gnome	06:19
slashzul	gnome	06:19
chelz	infid: gnome on ubuntu	06:19
devrethman	gnome	06:19
ouyes	both, depends on what you using	06:19
infid	k	06:19
LasBuntu	IdleOne: yes	06:20
chelz	assuming this is #ubuntu, i'd wager he means on ubuntu	06:20
devrethman	In what context is KDE more stable? I've never had gnome crash on me.	06:20
LasBuntu	IdleOne: it's apparently somehow connected to the netbook remix desktop, but we shut that off, "killall -9 gnome-panel" gets rid of it after KDE loads	06:20
chelz	well kubuntu hasn't had a very good reputation from shipping things that are kinda flaky	06:20
ouyes	IdleOne, i am back, the usage satatistics is open source , so i am safe	06:20
chelz	if someone wants something to 'just work' going with the default of gnome on ubuntu is a good idea	06:21
IdleOne	ouyes: :)	06:21
Blue11	iflema: nope even gksudo won't let me delete	06:21
IdleOne	LasBuntu: got me.	06:22
LasBuntu	ok, was worth a shot, thanks :)	06:22
IdleOne	LasBuntu: maybe ask in #kubuntu	06:22
EliasAmaral	nameo0, ..? i can't understand, is brasero okay now?	06:22
emghazal	How do I use Alt-codes? In Windows I can press Alt-0151 to type an em dash (—), but I can't do that here. I know I can use Character Map, but I want to type them using the keyboard	06:22
ouyes	infid, xfce, gnome,kde just the desktop envirnment of ubuntu, so you are almost at the same stable stage. the stability depended on your hardware and software	06:23
millertimek1a2m3	hey - which cross platform C++ based library is used more	06:23
millertimek1a2m3	qt or gtk?	06:23
sovi3t	millertimekla2m3 q3	06:24
sovi3t	qt*	06:24
ouyes	millertimek1a2m3, i do not know ,but gtk i think, because it is small and simply but also powerful	06:24
Blue11	iflema: this is how it's mounted: /dev/sdd /media/SANSA\040FUZE vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush 0 0	06:24
rat_	I am trying to install .net framework 2.0 sp1 in wine and I keep getting this "err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"InstallExecute" returned 1603" any suggestions? I have installed .net 2.0 via winetricks, but it still says it needs .net framework 2.0 sp1	06:25
Lanlost	Hey, I'm trying to create a launcher. Every time I do it it just gives me the waiting hourglass (the circle thing instead) and it never appears	06:25
Lanlost	Is there a way to create one manually? It's .launcher right?	06:25
chelz	emghazal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=434641	06:25
millertimek1a2m3	sovi3t, ouyes : I haven't seen a single recently written book out there on either of the subjects	06:25
chelz	Blue11: make sure you have write access to the mounted folder	06:25
Blue11	chelz: how do I do that?	06:26
ouyes	millertimek1a2m3, a book why needs a book, if there is , it must be a very thick book.	06:26
Blue11	chelz: it's like it's write locked	06:26
sovi3t	millertimekla2m3 yea, i mis-spoke been looking at a lot of kde4 on windows lately. gtk likely the leader	06:26
millertimek1a2m3	hmm	06:26
chelz	Blue11: pastebin ls -l /media	06:27
Blue11	!pastebin	06:28
ubottu	For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	06:28
Blue11	chelz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/368693/	06:28
clauden	hi all	06:28
eeeekyellowsnow	Question: I just downloaded a package "nautilus-wallpaper", how do i open it to make some changes to the setting?	06:28
ratapoil	what would be the command to list files and subdirectories and print to file?	06:28
clauden	karmic: rc.local not firing... any ideas? tried sleep 30 and a bunch of other tricks. runs fine as S10rc.local :)	06:29
Blue11	chelz: says it read/only file system	06:29
Trezker	Problem, my router lets me connect to it and I have good signal, but it lags really bad. There's no communication for half a minute, then comes a burst of data and then it halts for half a minute again.	06:29
millertimek1a2m3	KDE was built with qt.	06:29
sovi3t	ratapoil find . -name "*" -print > outfile	06:30
Blue11	okay it's forced me to boot windows bbiab	06:30
millertimek1a2m3	also, the license on the gtk site says "2007"	06:30
chelz	Blue11: do chmod 777 /media/SANSA*	06:30
chelz	might need a sudo	06:31
m0ar	ratapoil: find /path - >> file.tt	06:31
m0ar	txt* or w/e	06:31
m0ar	sovi3t: -print isn't needed since it already outputs, and > redirects the output	06:31
sovi3t	m0ar - yea, just figured that out ;)	06:31
m0ar	ratapoil: Sorry, find /path/ -d >> file.txt. -d is for -depth, >> ADDS to file, if you use > you'll replace the info in the file!	06:32
m0ar	ratapoil: Then if you want to list a certain type of files you can use -name "." and stuff like that. As path . and .. works finers	06:33
m0ar	sovi3t: Wtf does -print do btw?	06:34
m0ar	:)	06:34
tico	HELLLOOOOOOOOOO	06:35
Darkben	hi	06:35
tico	someone knows how to open .cbl file under ubuntu?	06:35
sovi3t	m0ar it prints the output when using -exec	06:36
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tomatoes7	i accidentally removed my volume control from the top panel and i don't know how to get it back	06:37
tomatoes7	i try Add to Panel, but the volume control is not an option	06:37
m0ar	tomatoes7: pulse or alsa?	06:38
rat_	I am trying to install .net framework 2.0 sp1 in wine and I keep getting this "err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"InstallExecute" returned 1603" any suggestions? I have installed .net 2.0 via winetricks, but it still says it needs .net framework 2.0 sp1	06:38
m0ar	tomatoes7: try starting gnome-volume-controlapplet	06:38
m0ar	control-applet*	06:38
error404notfound	i have configured postfix to bind to all interfaces and accept connections from a specific ip say my.ip.add.ress/32 to my_networks, configured firewall but i still can't even telnet to port 25 on postfix server.	06:38
tomatoes7	alsa	06:40
jstagame	can someone help with my problem i installed ubuntu 9.04 PC intel x86 desktop for somehow it changed to 64 bit?	06:41
indus	jstagame, its not possible	06:41
rww	jstagame: what's the output of "uname -a" in the terminal?	06:41
indus	jstagame, yes output of uname -a command	06:42
clauden	rc.local any ideas?	06:42
jstagame	Linux ubuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:40:41 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux	06:43
tomatoes7	how do i get my volume control back on the panel?	06:43
jstagame	indus here is my result on that	06:44
jstagame	Linux ubuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:40:41 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux	06:44
indus	jstagame, you installed a 64 bit version	06:44
tomatoes7	how do i get back my notification panel	06:45
jstagame	PC (Intel x86) server install CD	06:45
indus	tomatoes7, right click panel>add to panel	06:45
jstagame	thats where i install	06:45
indus	jstagame, maybe a mistake on website then	06:45
jstagame	i am on this site indus http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/	06:46
indus	jstagame, but i can assure you, it cannot change from 386 to x86_64	06:46
indus	jstagame, what you install is what you get	06:46
jstagame	i ran on my another pc without a problem	06:46
jstagame	when i run it on this pc thats what i ran to	06:47
indus	jstagame, strange but dont know if its possible	06:47
jstagame	hehe,Thank you indus yeah i find that strange since i didn't even have problem with my another pc but on this one shoot give my head pounding	06:48
indus	jstagame,is this a server install	06:49
jstagame	no sir desktop	06:49
indus	jstagame, whats the vesion of firefox ,check in about	06:49
songer	hello	06:49
songer	i have problems with my nvidia	06:50
indus	jstagame, you said its server ?	06:50
jstagame	i use the 3.0.3 version	06:50
jstagame	no sir desktop	06:50
om26er	songer, complain them. :(	06:50
om26er	songer, ok sorry. driver not working?	06:51
songer	yeap	06:51
SetiAmon	This may not be the exact place to ask,but is there a way to anonymize bit torrent on linux	06:51
indus	jstagame, you ssaid above, intel pc server install cd	06:51
om26er	songer, which nvidia card are you using?	06:51
jstagame	sorry my error typo	06:52
jstagame	PC (Intel x86) desktop CD actuall ran this one here	06:52
indus	jstagame, you installed another cd probably	06:52
indus	jstagame, nvm i dont know what to say	06:52
jstagame	hehe, yeah thank you indus for your help	06:53
indus	jstagame, :)	06:53
HammerHead66	can anyone tell me how to download all 32bit lib for my pc?	06:53
Blue11	iflema: heh apparently windows "read-only" permission is different then linux --	06:53
jargal	hey help me: how to stardict dictionary into add more language (my language mongol.dic) for ubuntu	06:53
indus	HammerHead66, all?	06:53
HammerHead66	yea	06:53
songer	is	06:53
songer	C51 [GeForce 6150 LE]	06:53
indus	HammerHead66, why do you need all?	06:53
Blue1	crazy	06:54
HammerHead66	well I'm trying to get my adobe to work but the 32bit libs i need won't install	06:54
chelz	HammerHead66: why not just download what you need? i'm guessing you want to run some 32bit stuff on a 64bit system	06:54
jargal	hey help me: how to stardict dictionary into add more language (my language mongol.dic) for ubuntu	06:54
chelz	HammerHead66: what version of ubuntu are you using and what piece of adobe software are you trying to use?	06:54
jstagame	indus Thanks have a great nite	06:55
songer	om26er: if I install the drivers the pc gets slow	06:55
HammerHead66	I'm not sure	06:55
om26er	songer, no?	06:55
jargal	hey help me: how to stardict dictionary into add more language (my language mongol.dic) for ubuntu	06:56
om26er	songer, which driver you installed? (version)	06:56
songer	C51 [GeForce 6150 LE]	06:56
HammerHead66	chelz: how do I get the ver up on terminal?	06:56
songer	96.43.13	06:56
chelz	HammerHead66: cat /etc/issue	06:57
jargal	hey help me: how to stardict dictionary into add more language (my language mongol.dic) for ubuntu	06:57
chelz	jargal: cat /etc/issue	06:57
chelz	erm	06:57
chelz	jargal: System ---> Administration ---> Language Selector	06:57
jargal	ok	06:57
om26er	songer, open System>administration>hardware drivers	06:58
chelz	jargal: second one	06:58
songer	from there i install the drivers	06:58
om26er	songer, and was it recommended?	06:58
songer	i installed it	06:58
HammerHead66	chelz: Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS	06:58
songer	vercion 185	06:59
Yggdrasil	hello, where is teh applications menu information stored ?	06:59
chelz	HammerHead66: ah alright. so what adobe software are you trying to use? is it perhaps photoshop or flash or dreamweaver or.. ?	06:59
HammerHead66	flash	06:59
Yggdrasil	wine left its dirty little afterbirth there	06:59
Yggdrasil	wine is crap	06:59
chelz	Yggdrasil: System -> Preferences -> Main Menu	07:00
songer	it happen the same thing	07:00
chelz	HammerHead66: do you want to make flash things or watch them?	07:01
Yggdrasil	thanks	07:01
HammerHead66	chelz: I would be watching them	07:01
chelz	HammerHead66: do you use firefox?	07:01
HammerHead66	chelz: yes	07:01
chelz	HammerHead66: in the terminal do: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree	07:02
songer	om26er, when i try to play any video it goes pausing	07:02
HammerHead66	chelz: it's working	07:02
meatbun	when i modify /etc/resolv.conf, do i need to restart some sort of service?	07:03
chelz	HammerHead66: just so i know what i'm recommending is correct, please paste what this outputs in the terminal: uname -a	07:03
zenlunatic	meatbun: dont think so	07:04
tom-v415	I'm working on a new install of ubuntu, and after importing my old /home data from a backup, things were looking good.. .then my internet connection just stoped.. I can see the local network, but not outside. Rebooted to windows, no problem. Other computers no problem, but this one, can only see local.	07:04
tom-v415	how do I troubleshoot?	07:04
HammerHead66	chelz: ok 1 sec it's still working	07:05
chelz	HammerHead66: you can open a new terminal window	07:05
chelz	tom-v415: pastebin the output of "traceroute google.com"	07:05
chelz	tom-v415: without the quotes	07:05
tom-v415	chelz: ok.. looks like local may not be working either.. just a sec.	07:05
HammerHead66	chelz: Linux ok 2.6.24-26-generic	07:06
Yvier6	Anyone here?	07:07
chelz	HammerHead66: there should be more to it than that. are you sure you're copying and pasting all of it?	07:07
chelz	Yvier6: sometimes ;)	07:07
hero1900	i got weird problem when i watch youtube is firefox the sound will gone after that and i need to log out and in to get it back	07:07
hero1900	??	07:07
zmanning	with compiz, is there an expose for windows?	07:07
hero1900	any help	07:07
Yvier6	How can i create a "link" that can run "/var/www/vhosts/domain.de/httpdocs/" (without quotes) with drupal ?	07:08
zmanning	hero1900, have you looked at alsamixer?	07:08
HammerHead66	chelz: Linux ok 2.6.24-26-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 1 17:55:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux	07:08
zmanning	hero1900, then f5	07:08
chelz	zmanning: http://wiki.compiz.org/CommonKeyboardShortcuts	07:08
Yvier6	how can i input "drupal" instead of "/var/www/vhostsdomain.de/httpdocs/" ?	07:08
Yvier6	i think this way is better to understand	07:08
tom-v415	chelz: no luck... the program 'traceroute' can not be found.. (odd) when I try sudo apt-get install traceroute, I see 'failed to fetch and Network is unreachable)	07:09
HammerHead66	chelz: yeah it works now thank you!	07:09
hero1900	yes	07:09
chelz	HammerHead66: awesome! thanks for using ubuntu :)	07:09
zmanning	chelz, so i guess thats a no then?	07:09
hero1900	actually sound will not go totally	07:09
hero1900	it will work only in firefox	07:09
tom-v415	chelz: something simple in my settings that I updated probably	07:09
hero1900	and in totem or vlc or any other applications mute	07:09
chelz	zmanning: there are ways to organize windows so you select between them, i'm not sure if they're part of compiz though. i do know programs that do that exist for linux	07:10
gokturk	#ubuntu-tr	07:10
Yvier6	is theren't a olution?	07:10
iflema	tom-v415 ping is a good start.. unless you luv ya fiewalls.. tryin a terminal ping ubuntu.com also check ' ifconfig ' confirm ya interface is loaded	07:10
Yvier6	solution*	07:10
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chelz	tom-v415: you could check the output of ifconfig	07:10
INDUS	HI	07:10
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Yvier6	chelz: is there a solution chelz?	07:11
tom-v415	chelz: using system->network->traceroute als fails with send failed	07:11
nat2610_	Hey, what can I do ? I have ubuntu 9.10 and Every so often the sound totally stop to working in my browsers (firefox and chrome). Is there anything I can simply restart like a service or I don't know what ?	07:11
chelz	hero1900: what version of ubuntu are you running?	07:11
hero1900	9.10	07:11
devrethman	Is anyone here familiar with tiff2pdf? when I try to use it the file it outputs is like 4 pixels wide, which is a problem.	07:11
hero1900	and i have lastest alsa	07:11
hero1900	22	07:11
chelz	Yvier6: sure, you mean in a terminal? like say you wanted to run "ls -l" but only wanted to type "ll"?	07:12
tom-v415	iflema: I'll copy the ifconfig to pastebin...but need to use usb to move to networked computer..	07:12
chelz	hero1900: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - go through this	07:12
chelz	tom-v415: well are you getting an ip from it? are you able to ping other local machines?	07:12
hero1900	okey	07:12
hero1900	thx	07:13
chelz	nat2610_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting	07:13
Yvier6	chelz: yes i mean in terminal it is so bad to write /var/www/vhosts/domain.de/httpdocs/ could i create a symbolic link that i only could drupal write and then my terminal goes to var/www....	07:13
Yvier6	?	07:13
iflema	tom-v415 how many network cards in it? include wireless?	07:13
FloodBot2	Yvier6: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:13
tom-v415	chelz: doesn't look like I can get to other local machines	07:13
nat2610_	chelz, I checked before, but it's not really my problem. If I use for example vlc, the sound is there ... it's only in the browser that I notice this issue	07:14
tom-v415	iflema: wireless is connected..shows signal strength	07:14
chelz	Yvier6: sure! we call those "symbolic links" to make a link you do: ln -s target linkName	07:14
iflema	tom-v415 and wireless is what you trying to connect through?	07:14
Yvier6	ln -s /var/www/vhosts/XXX/httpdocs/ drupal	07:15
Yvier6	so?	07:15
chelz	Yvier6: yeah, where you execute that a link called "drupal" will be created	07:15
chelz	Yvier6: so make sure you're where you want the link to be	07:15
tom-v415	iflema: yes, I can try wired..	07:15
Yvier6	chelz: with cd or what do you mean	07:15
chelz	Yvier6: yes	07:15
tom-v415	iflema: but it was all working fine just a little while ago.	07:16
Yvier6	cd var....?	07:16
chelz	Yvier6: you can optionally do something like: ln -s /var/www/vhosts/XXX/httpdocs/ /home/Yvier6/Desktop/drupal	07:16
Yvier6	chelz: hm..and only drupal isnt ok?	07:16
iflema	tom-v415 ok... well... whats changed?	07:16
damnbadluck	excuse me, i was here yesterday and my mounter became corrupt, so joeyjones told me to "sudo remove mount" and the whole OS is gone, i have a 9.10 disc here, and i have access to the command line in grub, can i repair my system this way? i would just try a fresh install but i have some files i need to save.	07:16
chelz	Yvier6: i'm talking about where the link you create will be put	07:16
Yvier6	chelz: thanks an last question :D how can i delete a symboliclink?	07:17
chelz	damnbadluck: boot to the 9.10 disc, mount your filesystem, and get the files you want back	07:17
chelz	Yvier6: it is like any other file. you can either move it to the trash in gnome's nautilus or do "rm file". in your case "rm drupal"	07:17
tom-v415	iflema: just plugged it in, and wired is working..	07:18
chelz	damnbadluck: then probably the easiest is to reinstall ubuntu	07:18
Artanis00	How do you set folder icons like the default home folder places that respect changing the theme? If I just set the icon from the folder's properties menu the icon doesn't change to new themes.	07:18
replic8tor	how do you block an ip from accessing ubuntu? I tried command iptables but it doesnt exist.	07:18
chelz	tom-v415: in ifconfig were you getting assigned an IP?	07:18
tom-v415	chelz: but what's changed is not too much..I copied over all my settings from a previous install so I updated /home/myname with lots of files	07:18
Artanis00	damnbadluck: Though you sould chroot into the old install and reinstall mount	07:18
haffe	replic8tor: I would install firestarter and build a firewall rule.	07:19
iflema	tom-v415 what did you do? :) did you update... change anything... too many changes?	07:19
damnbadluck	chelz: im trying to boot to it, but anytime i try to either install or boot from disc, the disc drive speeds up and then nothing happens, i have to ctrl+alt+del to make the system respond, do you have any suggestions?	07:19
Artanis00	damnbadluck: um, sould -> could	07:19
tucemiux	replic8tor, do you have a router at home?	07:19
replic8tor	is firestarter console?	07:19
replic8tor	I do have a router yes.	07:19
tomatoes7	my sound sucks ass on my pc	07:19
tucemiux	replic8tor, you can try blocking the IP in the router	07:19
haffe	replic8tor: No, it's a gui.	07:19
chelz	damnbadluck: you could try checking your BIOS settings to make sure it tries booting to a CD before the hard drive. you could also try burning another install CD	07:20
tomatoes7	i get some like weird feedback sound	07:20
damnbadluck	Artanis00: "chroot" from command line?	07:20
damnbadluck	chelz: ill check that then.	07:20
chelz	damnbadluck: you can use chroot to fix your system if you remember the exact command you did to break it	07:20
tucemiux	tomatoes7, youre recording using the mic?	07:20
tom-v415	iflema: here's the BEFORE (i plugged in wire) ifconifg: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7556d1b2	07:20
tomatoes7	no	07:20
chelz	damnbadluck: well actually you could check your ~/.bash_history if you get your fs mounted	07:20
damnbadluck	chelz: the exact command was "sudo apt-get remove mount"	07:21
tucemiux	tomatoes7, you get feedback just by listening to music or stuff?	07:21
Artanis00	damnbadluck: it's kinda complicated, but it's possible to access the installed environment within the liveCD through the command line	07:21
replic8tor	What non gui app should I try if not firestarter?	07:21
tomatoes7	yeah	07:21
chelz	damnbadluck: if you get booted to a livecd chrooting is an option	07:21
tomatoes7	its like a loud farting chopper	07:21
iflema	tom-v415 two network interfaces.... i wanted that info before to save you moving between machines..... it does not help now	07:21
tucemiux	it's your computer, some computers have that problem, i have that problem on windows but on ubuntu it sounds fine	07:22
Artanis00	damnbadluck: From there you should be able to use apt-get to install mount again	07:22
replic8tor	firestarter is just a frontend to iptables yea?	07:22
tom-v415	iflema: now that I've got a connection, I've put both ifconfig outputs up in that same link.	07:22
tomatoes7	tucemiux, well i figure i need different drivers	07:22
Viper1432	yes replic8tor , but its a very nice frontend.	07:22
tomatoes7	its never had problems when i run windows	07:22
tom-v415	iflema: what do you look at in that output, lots of stuff to parse there. (in ifconfig )	07:22
damnbadluck	chelz: ok so my disc drive is set to first position to boot from, and i have no other discs i can use for another copy of ubuntu. how long should i wait after choosing the boot from disc option before it responds?	07:22
replic8tor	Its a server, doesnt run X>	07:23
gokturk_	#ubuntu-tr	07:23
Artanis00	damnbadluck: I have a blog post here that I refer to when I nuke my installs, detailing how to chroot into the installed environment from a LiveCD: http://artanis00.blogspot.com/2009/08/getting-sources-source-keys-and-package.html	07:23
damnbadluck	Artanis00: ok, well i suppose thisll be a lot easier when i can get the CD to boot properly.	07:23
chelz	damnbadluck: don't select boot from disk. select "try out ubuntu"	07:23
tucemiux	tomatoes7, or it could also be the sound card	07:23
tucemiux	it could also be pulseaudio though i doubt it, I suggest you check the forum or launchpad	07:24
tomatoes7	the sound card works fine in windows	07:24
damnbadluck	chelz: yea, thats what i meant :P	07:24
Artanis00	damnbadluck: I didn't realize you couldn't get into the LiveCD either...	07:24
chelz	damnbadluck: do you have any usb flash sticks/drives around that you can format?	07:24
chelz	damnbadluck: if your system can boot to a usb device, you can install ubuntu on one of them with UNetbootin	07:25
damnbadluck	chelz: no i dont actually :P	07:26
damnbadluck	chelz: how long should the system take to respond when i use the "try ubuntu" option?	07:26
tom-v415	chelz: oops, thought the same url would show my updated pastebin... here's the update ifconfig, with both wireless only (not working) and wired: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2cc1e5e	07:26
Artanis00	damnbadluck: It can take a while	07:27
chelz	damnbadluck: as long as the CD drive is active and whirring, then it's doing its job	07:27
chelz	damnbadluck: an ipod or other many kinds of mp3 players can be used also	07:27
damnbadluck	Artanis00, chelz: ok then, ill check back in in a few minutes	07:27
tomatoes7	my ubuntu is acting like windows....slow	07:28
Artanis00	chelz: note to self boot a computer to Ubuntu off an iPod for laughs.	07:28
iflema	tom-v415 its basically useless... and that link has the wireless connected only.	07:28
chelz	Artanis00: it works great :)	07:28
Artanis00	chelz: I'll need to acquire an iPod. which work best?	07:28
tom-v415	chelz: the second pastbin? Should have a before and after ..	07:28
chelz	Artanis00: anything gen 5.5 and before	07:28
tom-v415	chelz: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2cc1e5e	07:28
tomatoes7	that'd be the best way to get flash working on an ipod	07:28
hyperstream	tomatoes7, time for a hardware upgrade, 486's dont cut it these days, :P	07:28
chelz	tom-v415: yeah eh well you have an IP. what happens when you disable and reenable your network connection from network manager?	07:29
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[BT]Brendan	I just did an rsync command and someone completely deleted my website. any idea how to recover the files?	07:30
[BT]Brendan	somehow*	07:30
tom-v415	chelz: where is the network manager ?	07:30
chelz	[BT]Brendan: do you have physical access to the machine?	07:30
hyperstream	[BT]Brendan, lol, on your pc or on another pc?	07:31
=== skydrome is now known as TeLe
[BT]Brendan	my local copy	07:31
brontosaurusrex	what is the procedure to share a printer? in karmic?	07:31
=== ^cheeky_ is now known as ^cheeky
brontosaurusrex	on the lan i mean	07:31
hyperstream	[BT]Brendan, you synced with a blank destination ?	07:31
hyperstream	!samba \| brontosaurusrex	07:31
ubottu	brontosaurusrex: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.	07:31
chelz	tom-v415: http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3585/screenshot1yw.png - upper right	07:31
[BT]Brendan	no i think it synchronised backwards to the way i was intending	07:31
pingfloyd	[BT]Brendan: is that "someone" you?	07:32
tom-v415	chelz: how you do that so fast?	07:32
hyperstream	pingfloyd, he said somehow	07:32
chelz	[BT]Brendan: do you have a copy of the site somewhere or did you delete your only copy?	07:32
hyperstream	pingfloyd, corrected himself :)	07:32
tom-v415	chelz: :-)	07:32
[BT]Brendan	i meant somehow	07:32
chelz	tom-v415: i found it, i didn't make it ;)	07:32
brontosaurusrex	hyperstream: where is cups here? where is rmb clickin on the printer and selecting share?	07:32
[BT]Brendan	weird typing error	07:32
* iflema :)		07:32
[BT]Brendan	i just deleted the only copy	07:32
[BT]Brendan	whilst trying to make another copy, lol	07:32
pingfloyd	ironic	07:33
chelz	[BT]Brendan: so the copy was local?	07:33
[BT]Brendan	yes	07:33
hyperstream	!cups \| brontosaurusrex	07:33
ubottu	brontosaurusrex: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows	07:33
pingfloyd	trying to backup something and it destroys what you're trying to backup	07:33
opp_	test	07:33
lars_bauer	name off program to unzip *.bz2 files ?	07:33
chelz	[BT]Brendan: if you can, turn off the machine forcefully with the drive in it. as in hold down power	07:33
pingfloyd	I'll usually mount as ro when I try to backup	07:34
chelz	[BT]Brendan: were you using ext3?	07:34
[BT]Brendan	If i do that I can't exactly talk in irc	07:34
* iflema :\|		07:34
[BT]Brendan	yeah i believe so	07:34
pingfloyd	for that reason and also to avoid consistency issues	07:34
hyperstream	[BT]Brendan, the longer its on, the less chance of recovery	07:34
[BT]Brendan	or 4	07:34
damnbadluck	chelz: the disc wasnt doing anything, im trying to do "check disc for defects" but thats not responding either.	07:34
[BT]Brendan	what ever the default is when installing ubuntu	07:34
chelz	[BT]Brendan: the longer a machine is on gives it more time to write to a disk and overwrite the data you want to recover	07:34
tom-v415	chelz: no luck disconnect and reconnect same behaviour. How come both before/after ifconfi have eth0, eth1 and lo? thought there would be more when wired network was on..	07:34
pingfloyd	it's easy to make a mistake with rsync or tar etc.	07:34
[BT]Brendan	ok but i need to know what to do after i power off	07:35
hyperstream	[BT]Brendan, you really need to get on another pc	07:35
chelz	tom-v415: there is more. eth0 is ethernet and eth1 is wireless	07:35
[BT]Brendan	ok	07:35
[BT]Brendan	back soon	07:35
hyperstream	:)	07:35
hyperstream	and he's gone lol	07:35
chelz	damnbadluck: can your machine boot to usb devices?	07:35
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chelz	damnbadluck: if it can i would suggest getting an inexpensive flashdrive for under $20 to work off of	07:36
Artanis00	chelz: pretty sure he said he can't...	07:36
tom-v415	chelz: very odd, I'm chatting using the same network (different computer) on that wireless network.. and ubuntu shows a good connection, but can't see anything on it.	07:36
chelz	Artanis00: i thought he said he didn't have any	07:36
chelz	tom-v415: on the computer you are chatting on, if you try pinging the computer having issues, what happens?	07:36
Artanis00	chelz: he did. yeah.	07:37
damnbadluck	chelz: im trying to work with limited resources, my location, coupled with poor timing have left me unemployed for the past year. i have to use what i have.	07:37
chelz	damnbadluck: ah hmm. well both reinstalling and chrooting require booting to some kind of live environment.	07:38
chelz	tom-v415: "ping 192.168.2.55"	07:38
rww	lars_bauer: bunzip2	07:38
lars_bauer	rww, thx	07:38
chelz	tom-v415: try right clicking on the network manager and hitting something that says disable	07:38
tom-v415	chelz: just did that and it worked.. (with ethernet wire in)	07:38
hyperstream	damnbadluck, is this for a laptop?	07:38
damnbadluck	chelz: i just realized, i do however have many spare hard drives, and a usb adapter.	07:39
chelz	tom-v415: try without the ethernet wire	07:39
rww	lars_bauer: If it's a .tar.bz2 file, use `tar -xjf /path/to/file.tar.bz2` instead	07:39
damnbadluck	hyperstream: no, but almost as difficult, a slimline pc	07:39
chelz	damnbadluck: that would work fine, if by usb adapter you mean an external enclosure	07:39
tom-v415	chelz: just did... no luck ping request times out.	07:39
lars_bauer	rww, even greater thx :O)	07:39
damnbadluck	chelz: i mean there is a power plug to molex cord and a usb to IDE cord, no enclosure, but i use it for storage.	07:40
damnbadluck	chelz: same difference i suppose.	07:40
chelz	damnbadluck: ah alright. heh sounds like it'll work	07:40
damnbadluck	chelz: how can i work with it then? what should i do?	07:41
chelz	tom-v415: hmm how long did the wireless work for? and did anything happen just before it stopped working?	07:41
chelz	damnbadluck: plug it in like a usb flashdrive and install ubuntu to it using Unetbootin	07:41
Artanis00	damnbadluck: probably just use the flash drive boot instructions on it	07:41
Artanis00	or that	07:41
damnbadluck	chelz: "Unetbootin" ? im using a windows system right now since the system with ubuntu obviously isnt working :P	07:42
tom-v415	chelz: it worked most of the day... Let me see how it does from a liveCD boot. Can't think of what might have messed it up. I'm just updating the box, so I did install openssl lib.. but that worked.. and ssh was working	07:42
Artanis00	damnbadluck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick	07:42
damnbadluck	chelz: googling./	07:42
chelz	tom-v415: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide - try going through the steps hree	07:43
chelz	damnbadluck: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ - button at the top	07:43
tom-v415	chelz: thanks I'll do that. :-)	07:44
gokturk_	#pardus	07:44
* iflema bing... bring on bong		07:44
tom-v415	chelz: then bed time for this bonzo. thanks for your help	07:44
chelz	damnbadluck: if you already have an ubuntu iso around you can use that instead of downloading a new one	07:44
chelz	tom-v415: hope your problem gets resolved. good night. ;)	07:44
gokturk_	#ubuntu-tr	07:44
chelz	:)*	07:44
tom-v415	iflema: thanks to you as well. G'night :-)	07:44
* iflema snoogens		07:44
[BT]Brendan_	OkI'm back	07:46
opp	Is this Ubuntu-CN?	07:46
chelz	[BT]Brendan_: welcome back	07:46
chelz	opp: /join #ubuntu-cn	07:46
[BT]Brendan_	Thanks	07:46
[BT]Brendan_	I just remembered that teh files are on a ntfs partition	07:47
damnbadluck	chelz: i most likely need to reboot since my HDD isnt showing up when plugged in via usb, ill be back	07:47
chelz	[BT]Brendan_: ah, that's important information	07:47
* iflema :\|		07:48
hyperstream	iflema, need something ? :P	07:48
[BT]Brendan_	and also that because the rsync command has worked in reverse, my new files have been over written by old ones.	07:48
iflema	hyperstream dont get me started	07:48
hyperstream	iflema, well if you have an issue this is the place to state it :)	07:49
iflema	hyperstream your local... ill come over and bash ya...	07:49
chelz	[BT]Brendan_: if you have another drive of somekind around, i suggest making a copy of the drive with the deleted files on it to those other drive(s), then working on the copies	07:49
chelz	[BT]Brendan_: there are a variety of tools: http://www.google.com/search?q=recover+ntfs+files	07:49
hyperstream	iflema, bit off topic ?	07:49
[BT]Brendan_	Heh I think I might just start again	07:49
hyperstream	!e-thug \| iflema	07:49
hyperstream	damn need to add that one :P	07:49
chelz	[BT]Brendan_: if that's an option you could do that. from here on out employing a regular backup schedule might be a good idea. you can automate it by adding an entry to ubuntu's cron	07:50
hyperstream	iflema, so whats the problem ?	07:50
hyperstream	iflema, couldnt see anything scrolling up ;/	07:50
iflema	hyperstream like i said dont get me started its offtopic and so is this	07:50
[BT]Brendan_	Yeah I've got some hard drives in the mail	07:50
[BT]Brendan_	cron?	07:51
[BT]Brendan_	I've always just tried using rsync for all backup/copy like things	07:51
hyperstream	iflema, :P	07:51
chelz	[BT]Brendan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem	07:51
* iflema :P		07:51
[BT]Brendan_	Ok thanks.,	07:52
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iflema	hyperstream grep ya logs its easier... ;P	07:53
Saxon	Dude out of nowhere, my sound on 9.10 has gone crap... can I get some assist?	07:53
chelz	Saxon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting	07:53
damnbadluck	chelz: do you know much about windows issues? my hard drive is showing up in device manager but not in windows explorer	07:55
Quan-Time	damnbadluck: what file system is it, and what version of windows ?	07:56
chelz	damnbadluck: "To format the drive in Windows 2000 or XP, right-click on My Computer and go to “Manage”. In the window that comes up, click Disk Management in the left pane. Once it loads, you should see an “Initialize Disk” wizard pop up. "	07:56
damnbadluck	chelz: oooooh ok thanks, i was in the device manager tab of the pane	07:57
damnbadluck	quan-time, idk file system, im running XP on this pc	07:57
brontosaurusrex	q2: what is the unmount command?	07:58
a	he temba its a	07:58
ayiez	alooo	07:59
chelz	brontosaurusrex: umount	07:59
Quan-Time	damnbadluck: usually NTFS.. just curious if it was a linux disjk you were trying to mount.. cos it will throw errors and kill your drive	07:59
chelz	Quan-Time: he's using a drive as something to install ubuntu to then boot off of to recover a borked 9.10 install	08:00
Quan-Time	kk np	08:00
chelz	quiet :(	08:06
chelz	you'd think out of 1.2k people there'd be some questions needing answering	08:07
puppy	haha	08:07
Quan-Time	im glad there isnt !	08:07
puppy	very ture	08:07
Quan-Time	its normally a mah house in here	08:07
puppy	man im bored	08:07
chelz	haha	08:07
chelz	i like the rush of helping 5 people at once	08:07
chelz	mental workout	08:07
Quan-Time	you have 10 fish.. 5 drown, and 3 come back to life.. how many fish do you have ?	08:07
Quan-Time	mental work out.. HARHARH	08:07
puppy	damn sounds hard lol	08:07
Flannel	Guys take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.	08:08
Viper1432	10. dead or alive you still have fish. :D	08:08
Quan-Time	fish cant drown ;)	08:08
Quan-Time	aaaand now we resume our normal programming.. cheers flannel :)	08:08
devrethman	How is it that after like 8 years of trying to make linux more user friendly, nobody has figured out how to prevent sound card locking?	08:08
HammerHead66	chaz: are u the one that helped me before?	08:09
chelz	HammerHead66: yep	08:09
puppy	my sound card never works	08:09
chelz	devrethman: they have. newer OSS handles it well and alsa does it fine	08:09
Viper1432	funny, mine always works.	08:09
chelz	puppy: try harder :P	08:09
chelz	HammerHead66: is flash having issues?	08:09
devrethman	Chelz: Really, then how is it that using the latest version of the most user friendly distro, Youtube can still shut MPD down?	08:10
HammerHead66	chelz: I am able to see the flash but when I try to watch something on hulu.com it tells me that my player it not up to date	08:10
puppy	works fine under win7 but under linux after sleep no good	08:10
devrethman	I have to sit here and /etc/init.d/mpd restart over and over again until it finally picks it up	08:10
devrethman	and once it has, half my other apps stop making sound.	08:10
HammerHead66	chelz: I did sudo apt-get update and also upgrade	08:10
puppy	i just want my music to play lol	08:11
chelz	devrethman: eh well there's still a ways to go. sometimes manual tweaking is still necessary	08:11
chelz	HammerHead66: ah alright, well do sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree	08:11
chelz	HammerHead66: we're going to need to install a newer version	08:11
devrethman	Yeah, I know, but from the impression that I've had, making ALSA work without "manual tweaking" has been in development longer then Duke Nukem Forever.	08:12
devrethman	which makes me a sad panda.	08:12
HammerHead66	chelz: ok removed	08:12
beruic	Does anyone know how to control the size of password symbols in dialogs? Mine are very small.	08:12
puppy	sad panda lol	08:13
chelz	HammerHead66: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ - go here and get the "http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/"	08:13
devrethman	beruic: Mine are really big. Want to trade?	08:13
beruic	Yes please :)	08:13
chelz	HammerHead66: then either open it when firefox asks you to save it, or save it then doubleclick it	08:13
devrethman	Okay, just a sec.	08:13
EliasAmaral	'password symbols'?	08:13
damnbadluck	chelz: unetbootin is processing and installing on the USB drive. will let you know how it goes.	08:14
chelz	perhaps he means black dots	08:14
EliasAmaral	you meant those dots when you enter a character?	08:14
chelz	damnbadluck: sounds good	08:14
devrethman	●●●●●●●●●●●●●●●	08:14
EliasAmaral	they are huge here	08:14
beruic	EliasAmaral: yes, those dots	08:14
devrethman	Put those in your password boxes.	08:14
EliasAmaral	you want them even more bigger?	08:14
EliasAmaral	(gtk2/gnome here)	08:14
chelz	beruic: do you mean on the login screen?	08:14
beruic	Mine are very small in both login and gksudo	08:14
EliasAmaral	i guess every system with the ubuntu's default font will have the same char	08:14
devrethman	Mine are also cyan, so you might want to do something like that.	08:14
devrethman	*something about that.	08:14
chelz	devrethman: depends on your soundcard. it's probably a good idea to google around every so often to see what the latest is in the linux world. a lot of times just a bit of tweaking can fix things.	08:15
EliasAmaral	maybe you are using a nonstandard font beruic	08:15
HammerHead66	chelz: error: wrong arch 'i386' Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10	08:15
HammerHead66	This package will download the Flash Player from Adobe. It is a Netscape/Mozilla type plugin. Any browser based on Netscape or Mozilla can use the Flash plugin. This package officially supports the following browsers:	08:15
HammerHead66	Firefox 2.x, Firefox 3.x, SeaMonkey 1.11	08:15
chelz	HammerHead66: ah ok, sorry about that, one sec	08:15
devrethman	chelz: Yeah, I know how it works, I've been using various forms of linux/oss/alsa for years, I just don't have time to tweak with it anymore >.< I was hoping coming here from Gentoo would eliminate such things.	08:15
beruic	So no one has any ideas?	08:16
devrethman	Although I have to give you guys props, it took me about a minute and a half to configure twinview last week.	08:16
HammerHead66	chelz: ok	08:16
devrethman	beruic: I think those symbols are part of the system font. You could try changing it in Menu -> system->prefs -> appearance	08:17
devrethman	but that would change the font for everything else, too. I don't know of a way to make specific things like that larger or smaller.	08:17
beruic	devrethman: What font do you use?	08:17
devrethman	All of them are set to "sans"	08:17
devrethman	and fixed width is Monospace.	08:18
beruic	My last two are sans bold and monospace	08:18
beruic	window titles are sans bold	08:18
beruic	but all are size 10. What are yours?	08:18
devrethman	I've done quite a bit of screwing around with my theme, so I dunno, I may have changed something somewhere that I forgot about.	08:18
devrethman	10 also.	08:18
chelz	HammerHead66: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html	08:19
damnbadluck	chelz: whats error 17?	08:19
HammerHead66	chelz: k	08:20
devrethman	They finally made a 64 bit flash player O_o	08:20
devrethman	when did that happen?	08:20
chelz	devrethman: very recently heh	08:21
Myrtti	devrethman: last summer, but it's alpha	08:21
chelz	i've heard it's stable enough for most users. stable as flash ever really is.	08:21
chelz	damnbadluck: when did you get that error?	08:21
damnbadluck	just now, after trying to boot via usb	08:22
damnbadluck	chelz: ^^	08:22
devrethman	in my experience, flash is about as stable as the stuff I made with Duplo when I was very small. It usually gets noscripted.	08:22
devrethman	I'm just impressed that adobe has finally gotten their heads out of thei--- errmmm. you know where this is going.	08:22
chelz	i use chromium for flash stuff, and browse regularly with firefox and noscript	08:22
HammerHead66	chelz: now that I've downloaded it, extracted, what now?	08:23
devrethman	chromium?	08:23
chelz	well i'm still waiting for hardware accelerated video playback on linux	08:23
chelz	google chrome's oss project. has an ubuntu ppa	08:23
devrethman	hasn't mplayer had that for quite awhile?	08:23
damnbadluck	chelz: what do i do?	08:23
Myrtti	oh sorry, year ago in november	08:23
chelz	devrethman: no, it's needed by the flash plugin	08:23
hackiolegaro	Hello Ubuntu	08:24
chelz	damnbadluck: if you're sure it's trying to boot to the drive, try reformatting it and doing a unetbootin install again. that's a grub error of somekind	08:24
devrethman	oh, hardware accelerated flash video? Cause I know I got hardware accelerated H264 working last summer.	08:24
damnbadluck	chelz: ok	08:24
chelz	devrethman: yeah i have h264 and all that	08:24
devrethman	at least I thought I did.	08:24
chelz	HammerHead66: in a terminal do: cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/	08:25
devrethman	well, when I did it it was only in the SVN and you had to use a bunch of wierd options	08:25
[BT]Brendan	I wish deleting things with the command line would sent them to the recycle bin.	08:25
dandaman	when grub loads for me i have like 5 versions of ubuntu, i always use the first but i'm wondering what the other 4 are for	08:25
devrethman	I think it was lik -vdapau=on or something like that.	08:25
devrethman	dandaman: Old kernels, in case it updates to a kernel that does not work, you'll be able to get into the old ones to fix it.	08:25
rww	dandaman: old kernel versions, probably	08:25
chelz	[BT]Brendan: there are tools that do that, just not the default ones. *nixes expect people to have backups	08:25
dandaman	devrethman: so i should always be loading from the one on top, right?	08:26
devrethman	Although while we're on the subject, is it possible to make those automatically disappear when they're more than 2 versions old?	08:26
devrethman	or something	08:26
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devrethman	dandaman: You should generally be loading the one with the highest version number. On mine they end up on the top usually	08:27
chelz	devrethman: that does sound like a good feature. i haven't heard of anything existing that does that though	08:27
dandaman	what's a kernel?	08:27
dandaman	i figure i should know these things if im a CS major	08:27
HammerHead66	chelz: returned : permission denied	08:27
devrethman	hahaha. Kernel is like... the thing at the center of the OS that does all the low-level stuff	08:27
devrethman	if it's working right, you will never notice it.	08:27
puppy	its the heart	08:28
HammerHead66	chelz: cannot create regular file	08:28
Quan-Time	dandaman: kernel is a bit of corn... OR its the major reliant factor of literally every computer OS... know how windows 95 and 98 are hugely the same ? its got the same kernel.. etc.. hope that helps	08:28
devrethman	chelz: I tried screwith with grub.conf in ubuntu once, and it was full of comments and strange foriegn things with names like 'AUTOMAGIC' so I left.	08:28
dandaman	Quan-Time: still doesnt really explain what a kernel is :\	08:29
chelz	HammerHead66: sudo cp	08:29
devrethman	It's the low-level. It interfaces between hardware and software and does things like memory management and driver management.	08:29
chelz	devrethman: menu.lst makes sense to me since i have experience with it, but the grub2 stuff i still need to learn	08:29
Quan-Time	dandaman: umm... ok.. a kernel has the basis of how things interact.. ie: how a mouse interfaces with the screen.. all via software. the kernel is the "core" software.. im sure theres a wiki on it..	08:29
HammerHead66	chelz: did it but did not ask for password	08:30
chelz	dandaman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computing%29	08:30
chelz	HammerHead66: you only have to enter your password every 15min i think for sudo	08:30
dandaman	kk	08:30
Quan-Time	dandaman: major kernel updates include new "standards" for hardware, driver sets, etc..	08:30
devrethman	I wrote my own menu.lst when I used gentoo, but here there's all sorts of extra stuff that I'm worried will set it on fire if I screw with. Grub errors are almost as annoying as wet socks, so I avoid them.	08:30
HammerHead66	chelz: O.. ok	08:30
dandaman	i remember for an internship interview i didnt get the interviewer asked me to write a kernel for unix	08:30
dandaman	is that really realy hard?	08:30
Quan-Time	dandaman: and for the record, im not a computer tech. nor involved in the computer industry..	08:30
dandaman	because it sounded hard when he first asked me :\	08:30
chelz	dandaman: a popular exercise for CS-types is to write their own kernel	08:31
devrethman	Yeah, that's kind of rediculously hard.	08:31
Quan-Time	dandaman: yes.. "writing" a kernel is HUGE.. but making a custom kernel is possible.. if you dont know what a kernel is, then its stupidly hard	08:31
devrethman	It is? Nobody told me O_o Perhaps I'm in the wrong major	08:31
chelz	HammerHead66: then you might need to restart firefox. but that should do it	08:31
Quan-Time	devrethman: oh dear...	08:31
chelz	HammerHead66: if you ever want to update flash, just go to adobe's site and hunt for the 64bit flash tar.gz and copy it into the same place	08:31
devrethman	I thought I was cool cause I wrote a BASH script that splits PDFs in half vertically	08:31
Quan-Time	devrethman: can you drive a car ?	08:32
HammerHead66	chelz: ok thanks	08:32
chelz	devrethman: well a simple kernel, not one that follows all the unix standards	08:32
devrethman	Yeah, a simple kernel is possible. Writing a kernel that implements UNIX is... not so much.	08:32
devrethman	well, I'm sure it's possible, but it is not something I would do with my free time	08:33
devrethman	Quan-Time: Yes... why?	08:33
Quan-Time	dandaman: can you drive a car ? its like that with CS... you learn over time.. you need correct teaching.. like doing anything.. with time @ college, you will learn the skill set needed..	08:34
eva	join /#ncczona	08:36
kejtsitakua	hey! is anybody in theree??!!	08:37
kejtsitakua	xD	08:37
devrethman	I have become comfortably numb.	08:37
puppy	yup talking about tastie kernels	08:37
kejtsitakua	anyway.. i got some troubles with xubuntu on my hp2133 =(	08:37
tomatoes7	i'm getting super frustrated	08:38
puppy	whats the issue?	08:38
kejtsitakua	u know all windows seem to not work good	08:38
chelz	kejtsitakua: #ubuntu-es might also help	08:38
kejtsitakua	sorry about my english.. this is not my real language xD	08:38
devrethman	No, windows does generally not work good. That's why we're here.	08:38
kejtsitakua	so i can not do nothin about it??	08:39
devrethman	Well, what's the problem?	08:39
kejtsitakua	i mean i tried live version and works all fine	08:39
chelz	kejtsitakua: state your problem	08:39
puppy	seems like a theme issue	08:39
tomatoes7	i removed ALSA drivers to replace them with OSS, now i'm trying to revert the process	08:40
tomatoes7	i need to bang my head against a wall!	08:40
kejtsitakua	omg	08:40
devrethman	tomatoes7: Banging your head on the wall and dealing with linux sound drivers is more or less the same thing.	08:40
puppy	i just gave up on my sound drivers lol	08:40
Tartarus1	what is latest version of linux kernel right now	08:40
devrethman	check kernel.org	08:40
kejtsitakua	how can i know that?	08:41
tomatoes7	maybe i'll commit suicide	08:41
ikonia	Tartarus1: for ubuntu 2.6.31	08:41
kejtsitakua	im new in this	08:41
kejtsitakua	xD	08:41
ikonia	tomatoes7: please stop messing around	08:41
puppy	17	08:41
tomatoes7	nah...i'll just use windows	08:41
ikonia	tomatoes7: ok - do that then	08:41
devrethman	Same thing.	08:41
chelz	tomatoes7: you get stronger through struggles	08:41
tomatoes7	i hope so	08:41
tomatoes7	cause i'm really really weak	08:41
devrethman	Chelz: By that logic, let's all head over to #gentoo	08:41
kejtsitakua	so xubuntu is the only one that does that??	08:42
chelz	devrethman: well ok some struggles kill you	08:42
kejtsitakua	i tried ubuntu before.. worked good	08:42
devrethman	chelz: lol	08:42
puppy	im using xubuntu	08:42
chelz	kejtsitakua: what do you want to do? what isn't working?	08:42
puppy	but no sound	08:42
chelz	kejtsitakua: if you want to chat there's #ubuntu-offtopic	08:42
kejtsitakua	chelz: the problem here is all windows dont work good	08:43
kejtsitakua	they just stay at the same position.. i cant move them	08:43
puppy	explain like, are they locking up or missing buttons	08:43
puppy	hummm	08:43
mneptok	kejtsitakua: what is your native language? you might try that loco chanel for better comprehension.	08:44
chelz	kejtsitakua: try #ubuntu-es	08:44
puppy	how about the whole pc? is it slowing down when the windows lock up	08:44
kejtsitakua	ok ok .. i will	08:44
kejtsitakua	thanks	08:44
VectorX	hello i need to run a command, "sudo modprobe wl" at the terminal when i start the os, how can i have that start on boot ?	08:46
VectorX	or is there a better way to do it	08:46
mirkosina	hello i want to ask you why i can not enable visual effect	08:46
mirkosina	i use ubuntu 9.10	08:46
llutz	VectorX: add "wl" to /etc/modules	08:46
chelz	VectorX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102961	08:47
ikonia	mirkosina: what video card do you have	08:47
mirkosina	ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series	08:47
tomoyuki28jp	What's the easiest way to send email from ubuntu client machine?	08:47
ikonia	mirkosina: the ati / xorg interaction is known to be poor and the support for them is non-standard. Make sure you're using the best xorg drivers you can	08:47
ikonia	!ati > mirkosina	08:47
ubottu	mirkosina, please see my private message	08:47
llutz	tomoyuki28jp: mailx + ssmtp	08:47
ikonia	tomoyuki28jp: pick an email client (thunderbird/evolution/etc) and use it to send email,	08:48
HammerHead66	chelz: ok I'm still having a problem. I went to the download center and downloaded flash version 10.0.42.34 ... But when I go to hulu.com it said," requires flash player 10.0.22 or higher	08:50
infid	what's the difference between a hardlink and just cp'ing a file?	08:50
titan_ark	Hey. i am facing trouble with power management. everytime my notebook recovers from sleep powermanagement indicates that there is no battery	08:50
mirkosina	ikonia im install ubuntu 9.10 last month and i can enable this visual effect	08:50
VectorX	ok thanks, i am also trying to see if i can access my vista machine and vice versa, both computers are connected to the router, but somehow dont show up, i have enabled remote desktop etc, and samba sharing on the ubuntu, and sharing on the vista but cant see anything	08:50
mirkosina	but i turn it off...	08:50
ikonia	mirkosina: that doesn't change what I said	08:50
chelz	HammerHead66: did you restart your browser?	08:50
mirkosina	ok	08:51
HammerHead66	chelz: yes	08:51
ikonia	HammerHead66: did you restart your browser	08:51
ikonia	chelz: sorry - lagging behind you	08:51
anli_	There should be a way to install 32-bit firefox using synaptic, should there not?	08:51
chelz	HammerHead66: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html is this working?	08:51
ikonia	anli_: no,	08:51
chelz	ikonia: np. you are providing some good answers.	08:51
HammerHead66	chelz: think maybe it could be my firewall?	08:51
devrethman	anli_: i don't see why.	08:52
ikonia	HammerHead66: no, that comes over http	08:52
papul	can i install ubunu on a pendrive?	08:52
ikonia	papul: yes	08:52
ikonia	!install > papul	08:52
ubottu	papul, please see my private message	08:52
anli_	devrethman: Because 64-bit firefox is not supported by firebug	08:52
chelz	HammerHead66: no	08:52
ikonia	anli_: yes it is	08:52
chelz	HammerHead66: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html - try this and make sure it's stating flash is working	08:52
anli_	ikonia: No	08:52
papul	i mean if i do apt-get install mpd than the mpd must install on the pen drive and the next time i boot mpd must be available	08:52
anli_	ikonia: If you with support means that the browser is closing immediately, then yes	08:53
HammerHead66	chelz: ok checking	08:53
chelz	ikonia: is there a trigger list somewhere?	08:53
ikonia	anli_: it's on my screen working fine	08:53
ikonia	!ubottu > chelz	08:53
ubottu	chelz, please see my private message	08:53
ikonia	chelz: check that out	08:53
youcef	hello	08:53
anli_	ikonia: 1.5.0?	08:54
ikonia	anli_: yes	08:54
titan_ark	anyone? power management tool issues???	08:54
ikonia	anli_: unless you see a note saying "not supported" don't make things up	08:54
youcef	hi all how are you???	08:54
anli_	ikonia: But there are several bug reports which I did not make up	08:54
om26er	!hi \| youcef	08:54
ikonia	youcef: all well, welcome to #ubuntu, this channel is for support questions	08:54
ubottu	youcef: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	08:54
youcef	i have question?	08:54
ikonia	anli_: bug reports are not "not supported"	08:54
anli_	ikonia: No, but if the bug reports tells that there is no support, I use to rely on them, but I will rely on you from now on	08:55
youcef	there are viruses for ubuntu ?	08:55
infid	i'm using gnome-do's Twitter plugin and it pops up a notification bubble whenever someone tweets. Is there a way to click on the bubble to launch it into my browser before it disappears?	08:55
llutz	youcef: other malware, no virusses	08:55
mattyh	hi	08:55
ikonia	anli_: if it's not supported the author puts a note on saying "not supported on 64bit"	08:55
anli_	hm	08:55
youcef	ok thats dangerous?	08:56
anli_	ok	08:56
scottj	I have some code in ~/.Xmodmap that remaps right alt to a super key and it works but if I hibernate then when I resume the key is back to being an alt. any ideas?	08:56
llutz	youcef: sure	08:56
mattyh	anyone who knows why I cant write to #qemu irc say's cannot send to channel ?	08:56
ikonia	scottj: daemons probably not waking up post hibernate	08:56
ikonia	scottj: few bugs in apps do that after hibernate	08:56
youcef	what that can do for my computer?	08:56
anli_	ikonia: So I do not see the same behavior as a lot of other users? Or to be constructive, what shall I do?	08:56
ikonia	!register > mattyh	08:56
ubottu	mattyh, please see my private message	08:56
HammerHead66	chelz: it said," no suitable plugins were found."	08:56
chelz	infid: asking the gnome-do people would be better than here	08:56
scottj	ikonia: but xmodmap isn't running as a daemon I don't think	08:56
anli_	ikonia: Shall I ignore the bug report fix that says that I shall install a 32-bit firefox	08:57
ikonia	scottj: no, but there is a keyboard deamon that picks up the changes	08:57
infid	k	08:57
ikonia	anli_: it's up to you what you'd do, personally I think "install 32bit" is a weak fix unless there is a confirmed bug	08:57
titan_ark	ikonia: any idea on the powerdevil daemon?	08:57
ikonia	titan_ark: in what respect ?	08:57
anli_	ikonia: http://blog.getfirebug.com/2010/01/19/64-bit-firefox-on-linux-crashes-with-firebug-1-5-0/	08:58
titan_ark	everytime my notebook recovers from sleep powermanagement indicates that there is no battery	08:58
anli_	ikonia: They cant have seen your screen	08:58
chelz	HammerHead66: in a terminal do: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so	08:58
chelz	HammerHead66: then restart your browser and try to visit http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html	08:58
tomatoes7	great...now i have no sound at all	08:58
ikonia	anli_: what does "about" version say in firefox	08:58
anli_	ikonia: Must check, please wait	08:59
ikonia	titan_ark: ahh, I've seen that reported many times too	08:59
ikonia	titan_ark: check launchpad for a bug report on that	08:59
titan_ark	ikonia: i tried, couldnt find anything. shall try again. thx	08:59
ikonia	titan_ark: you're not alone with that, I've seen that reported many times	08:59
titan_ark	ikonia: okay	09:00
anli_	ikonia: About for firefox itself sais version 3.5.6, ubuntu canonical 1.0	09:00
titan_ark	thank you	09:00
anli_	mozilla/5.0 (X11: U: Linux x86 64:	09:00
ikonia	anli_: update to e3.5.7	09:00
ikonia	anli_: what version of ubuntu are you using ?	09:00
anli_	ikonia: 9.10, I think	09:01
ikonia	anli_: show me "uname -a" - lets check	09:01
Omar87_	Sorry for this extremely n00bish question, but what's the command for creating new users?	09:01
slowlearner	hi is there a program i can use to install ubuntu from windows? I'm looking at something like wubi but install of installing it on a windows partition it starts a real ubuntu install.	09:01
ikonia	Omar87_: useradd - or use the gui	09:01
anli_	ikonia: Linux plutten 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux	09:01
slowlearner	*but instead	09:01
ikonia	slowlearner: not really	09:02
ikonia	anli_: great that looks like 9.10	09:02
ikonia	anli_: do an system update and it should update firefox to 3.5.7 which is current	09:02
ikonia	anli_: (and what I'm using without issue)	09:02
anli_	ikonia: Must try	09:02
chelz	slowlearner: wubi	09:02
chelz	wait is wubi not working for 9.10?	09:02
ikonia	chelz: he doesn't want to use wubi	09:02
chelz	i never know what the latest ver of ubuntu wubi supports	09:02
chelz	oh	09:02
HammerHead66	chelz: ok it seem to be working now but hulu.com is said," unable to stream this video. please check your enternet connection and try again.	09:03
chelz	HammerHead66: try a youtube video or two, to make sure it's working	09:03
HammerHead66	ok	09:03
anli_	ikonia: I try apt-get dist-upgrade	09:03
chelz	HammerHead66: for the record, running 64bit makes using proprietary stuff like flash tough	09:03
otoady	I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.1 ... I have no volume icon in the upper right corner ... how can I get it back ... I have no sound preferences ... should I .. I can't get into users and groups ... nothing happens when I click the make changes place ... I have to login 6 or 7 times before gnome starts successfully ... I did not get grub-pc in the upgrade, but through apt-get ... help, please ...	09:04
anli_	ikonia: I would be very greatful if this solves the problem	09:06
ikonia	anli_: we can hope	09:06
HammerHead66	chelz: video is good but no sound.	09:06
chelz	HammerHead66: alright, is that not working? do you want to try installing it another way?	09:08
HammerHead66	ok	09:08
airtonix	question about networkmanagers ICS features : i currently have my netbook set to dhcp connect to my desktop(which is having two NICs, eth0 is outwards to the router which hits the WAN, and eth1 is inward and set to "shared to computers" in networkManager)... from my netbook I can access the apache server on my desktop but not google	09:08
chelz	HammerHead66: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-10-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html - follow the commands under "For 64 bit Users"	09:09
meowbuntu	Hi ho how it go everyone	09:09
titan_ark	ikonia: i could only come up to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453963	09:09
ikonia	airtonix: you need your need something to act as a router out to the internet	09:09
titan_ark	i am quite a n00b	09:09
ikonia	titan_ark: just reading	09:09
titan_ark	would appreciate the help	09:09
titan_ark	ikonia: i thank you	09:09
ikonia	titan_ark: that looks like it could be a similar problem/bug to you	09:10
VectorX	how do i reset the smb.conf file to its defaults ?	09:10
airtonix	ikonia, yep this is the function i desire my desktop to fullfil. and it does most of what i expect however I can;t seem to get past the desktop and out onto the internet when using the netbook	09:10
titan_ark	ikonia: yeah.	09:10
ikonia	airtonix: what are you using on the desktop as a router ?	09:10
retry	VectorX, ipkg-configure	09:10
ikonia	titan_ark: I'm sorry to say it looks like a kernel bug that "should" be fixed in the next ubuntu release......	09:10
retry	there's a flag to reconfigure to default	09:10
retry	type man ipkg-configure	09:10
titan_ark	ikonia: i can see the mention of my notebook model. but what is the solution. seems to not make sense to me.	09:11
ikonia	retry: dpkg ?	09:11
retry	oh yeah!	09:11
ikonia	titan_ark: ahhh so you are even using that notebook, ok, so I'd be confident that that is the problem then	09:11
retry	ha I've been messing about with my pre :D	09:11
ikonia	titan_ark: well found	09:11
retry	so I was in ipkg mode	09:11
airtonix	ikonia, traditionally i would use firestarters ICS features, however now i;m using the gnome networkManager to do it, im connecting from the netbook to the desktop via ethernet cable	09:11
titan_ark	ikonia: yes i own a HP dv4t 1400	09:11
ikonia	airtonix: gnomenetworkmanager is not routing software or ip forwarders	09:11
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ikonia	titan_ark: ok, so that's the bug then	09:11
retry	VectorX, dpkg-reconfigure	09:12
airtonix	ikonia, this (http://jeremy.visser.name/2009/03/24/simple-internet-connection-sharing-with-networkmanager/) leads me to believe otherwise	09:12
titan_ark	ikonia: yes, but i cant seem to comprehend the solution. except that the test kernel has been patched	09:12
VectorX	retry do i need to specify anything else	09:12
retry	VectorX, yes the argument is the package yo uwant to reconfigure	09:12
retry	so whatever samba is called	09:12
retry	is it smb or just samba?	09:13
ikonia	titan_ark: so you need to wait for that patched kernel to be released to ubuntu	09:13
VectorX	samba i think	09:13
airtonix	retry, amb is an acronym : small message block	09:13
airtonix	retry, smb*	09:13
meowbuntu	Hi all	09:13
retry	airtonix, it's also samba	09:13
airtonix	retry, :) which is a name inspired by the protocol name	09:14
titan_ark	ikonia: ah okay. i remember when i was using a wubi install and facing some other issues, someone had given me a link to a vanilla kernel, if i am not mistaken this was also solved by the vanilla kernel	09:14
retry	right	09:14
ikonia	airtonix: that guide won't fly in my view unless the machine you are using is automatically setup as a router/forwader, because all gnome-network-manger is doing is telling your card to advertise it's self for incoming dns lookups with dns-masq	09:15
anli_	ikonia: hm, with 3.5.7, it is the same, if I try to open the firebug console, the browser closes	09:15
ikonia	anli_: there clearly is a bug there - but only for selected configurations	09:15
otoady	I'm tired. the cd writer won't recognize media either ... tomorrow	09:16
airtonix	ikonia, firestarter ICS features do more than gnomes network manager then ? (because i have used firestarter to do the whole thing from dns server and forwarding)	09:16
ikonia	airtonix: look down the list and the ammount of people having to alerter routes and the like	09:16
anli_	ikonia: ok, so how do I install a 32-bit firefox?	09:16
ikonia	airtonix: yes, firestarter is a full on firewall that can do forwarding	09:16
anli_	ikonia: Has to be made by hand, I suppose?	09:16
ikonia	anli_: you'll have to pull that from the firefox site I'm afraid	09:16
anli_	ok	09:16
ikonia	anli_: have you tried removing firebug, restarting the browser, confirming it works then re-installing firebug	09:17
ikonia	anli_: the new browser may benifit from a new install of firebug	09:17
airtonix	ikonia, thanks for the clarification	09:17
ikonia	anli_: also did anything else get updated with firefox ?	09:17
ikonia	anli_: need to pop out now, but I'd strongly advise a clean firebug install and a reboot to make sure all your updates took effect	09:18
anli_	ikonia: When I opened the firefox window, no suggestions to update the plugins were made, but I uninstalled firebug and installed it	09:18
anli_	ikonia: thx	09:20
lhb	hi all	09:20
lhb	is there known issues/solutions regarding dell gx280 and ubuntu 9.x	09:21
Crippler	Hi is md5sum reliable to check for data corruption on 1tb files cloned/transferred to new harddisk	09:21
lhb	the install disk just freeze	09:21
titan_ark	ikonia: seems like i can rebuild my kernel with the patch.	09:22
Myrtti	lhb: which disk are you using, live or alternate?	09:22
titan_ark	need to figure out how to do that	09:22
Myrtti	lhb: and where did it freeze, partition or graphics detection?	09:22
lhb	i have done all the disk checks/memory checks	09:22
INDUS	lhb, when live cd comes to the options screen, press f6 and remove quiet and splash and see where its freezing	09:22
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lhb	ubuntu 8.10 installed like a charm, apt-get upgraded to 9.04 and bang... it froze after 3 minutes	09:23
Sacho	How can I modify the positioning of the panels in gnome, 9.04	09:23
indus	lhb, could you answer Myrtti's question , are you using live cd or alternate	09:24
lhb	indus: live	09:24
Myrtti	lhb: do you even get to desktop?	09:24
ouyes	Sacho, it is simple, just click right button of your mouse select "Move"	09:24
lhb	Myrtti: i started the installer straigt, didnt go to the live cd desktop	09:25
brokepunk	learning... websites to investigate?	09:25
Myrtti	lhb: did you get to the graphical interface?	09:25
Myrtti	brokepunk: learning what?	09:25
Sacho	ouyes: I can't right click the ...whatever it's called, because there are panels over it.	09:26
lhb	Myrtti: of the installer, yes	09:26
Sacho	I only get the options for them.	09:26
brokepunk	been working with linux for 4 days...	09:26
Sacho	I want to move the strip on the top with applications/places/system/etc on the right	09:26
c_nick	how to open file roller with root	09:26
titan_ark	could someone help me add this patch to my kernel? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453963	09:26
Myrtti	lhb: at what point did it freeze then?	09:26
brokepunk	been working with scripting, networking, sysadmin...	09:26
indus	Sacho, just dragand drop it to a panel on the right	09:26
titan_ark	would appreciate the help!	09:26
spywareBOT	http://proxy.spywarelan.se Swedish high speed webproxy!	09:26
indus	Sacho, right click and unlock it first	09:26
lhb	Myrtti: while copying the files, mostly but actually all over	09:27
c_nick	got it ..i remembered	09:27
c_nick	:d	09:27
brokepunk	currently having problems with a script I have been working on	09:27
ouyes	Sacho, move your mouser on the panel and then right click the mouser and select "Move"	09:27
Myrtti	brokepunk: it would greatly help if you'd try to keep your question to one line	09:27
HammerHead66	chelz: I have sound. Thank you for all the hand holding.	09:27
HammerHead66	:-D	09:27
Sacho	ouyes: I can't select move.	09:27
keux	algum brasileiro(a)?	09:27
spywareBOT	http://proxy.spywarelan.se Swedish high speed webproxy!	09:27
lhb	Myrtti: the point is, i could install 8.10 and dist-upgrade to 9.02 and then the same happened on the desktop there, after about 5 mins	09:27
ouyes	Sacho, why?	09:27
brokepunk	ok... cannot get permissions to .gvfs from root...	09:27
brokepunk	by the by... ty you in advance	09:28
Sacho	Because it's greyed out?	09:28
indus	Sacho, because under move option , its locked to panel	09:28
Sacho	Okay, but I don't want to move this panel, I want to move the one it's on :\|	09:28
brokepunk	i can show you the script I am having issues with	09:28
indus	Sacho, ?	09:28
keux	alguém que fale português?	09:28
ouyes	Sacho, where is the panel you want to move?	09:28
HammerHead66	chelz: check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_UGFLT0VMY	09:29
lhb	Myrtti: on ubuntyforums some persons asked about the same but the aswers are not relevant	09:29
brokepunk	and tell you steps I have tried to correct the issue	09:29
Sacho	The line.	09:29
Sacho	On which you have applications, places, system.	09:29
Sacho	And also the switch user/shutdown panel.	09:29
brokepunk	still there myrtti?	09:29
Sacho	I want to move it from the top, to the right.	09:29
indus	Sacho, you want to move that panel completely?	09:29
chelz	HammerHead66: is huly working?	09:29
Sacho	...yes	09:29
chelz	HammerHead66: also hulu	09:29
brokepunk	...new to irc too	09:29
ouyes	Sacho, i am sure i can just click the right button	09:30
indus	Sacho, just right click on it somewherer and select orientation right	09:30
indus	Sacho, i have noticed too, now you cant just drag and drop	09:30
ouyes	Sacho, are you a left-handed?	09:30
Sacho	ouyes: Don't be condescending	09:30
Sacho	indus: There is no free space on the panel, anywhere I click I get one of the panels that are on it	09:30
indus	Sacho, if you have middle mouse button, you can drag and move it to right	09:30
brokepunk	also have questions about tor	09:31
indus	Sacho, now now isnt that easy, you remove a few things then	09:31
HammerHead66	chelz: no hulu is not working it said," Express install not supported."	09:31
brokepunk	silence?	09:31
Myrtti	mmm, coffee	09:31
Sacho	indus: so I have to remove several panels, move the underlying one, and then reattach them?	09:31
\|_ocke	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1u43KDiWD0&feature=related	09:31
Sacho	There has to be an actually sane solution	09:31
indus	Sacho, just remove the notification applet , which will clear a lot of space\	09:31
Myrtti	\|_ocke: how is that relevant to the Ubuntu support?	09:31
ouyes	Sacho, sorry for my poor english , but what do you mean by "Don't be condescending"?	09:31
brokepunk	can anyone here help with scripting questions?	09:32
retry	what sort of scripting?	09:32
indus	brokepunk, please try in #bash	09:32
brokepunk	bash	09:32
\|_ocke	Myrtti, i dunno, i just really like it	09:32
brokepunk	i am	09:32
indus	Myrtti, what type of coffee	09:32
retry	brokepunk, i can help with bash	09:32
\|_ocke	it works on ubuntu though	09:32
spywareBOT	http://proxy.spywarelan.se Swedish high speed webproxy!	09:33
brokepunk	#!/bin/bash	09:34
brokepunk	# systeminfo - A script to produce an HTML file with system info.	09:34
brokepunk	##### Constants	09:34
brokepunk	TITLE="System Information for $HOSTNAME"	09:34
brokepunk	RIGHT_NOW=$(date +"%x %r %Z")	09:34
FloodBot2	brokepunk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:34
brokepunk	TIME_STAMP="Updated on $RIGHT_NOW by $USER"	09:34
indus	aahh lost con	09:34
ouyes	where is the conky configuration file?	09:34
spywareBOT	http://proxy.spywarelan.se Swedish high speed webproxy!	09:34
pingfloyd	quit spamming spywareBOT	09:35
indus	!spam	09:35
indus	!testagain > indus	09:35
Sheepherd_	hi all... ive just read through http://nedbatchelder.com/text/exceptions-in-the-rainforest.html	09:35
indus	Sheepherd_, whats it about	09:36
Sheepherd_	now my question is what exactly status return's are... i only know very basic C++ so thats why i dont understand that	09:36
\|_ocke	nobody in here likes aesop rock? :(	09:36
zvacet	!packages	09:36
ubottu	You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please search for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!	09:36
zvacet	!list	09:36
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	09:36
chelz	HammerHead66: you could try installing hulu desktop	09:36
indus	Sheepherd_, you are looking for the #c++ room	09:37
Myrtti	brokepunk: please use pastebin?	09:37
HammerHead66	chelz: what is that?	09:37
kjelle	Hello. I am using fakeroot to build some debian packages. When I use dpkg-buildpackage, the packages are automatically signed. How do I do that with fakeroot?	09:37
Myrtti	\|_ocke: please keep the offtopic elsewhere	09:37
quibbler	ouyes-> in your home directory, but you have to set view hidden files ...it is .conkyrc	09:37
chelz	HammerHead66: http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux	09:37
Leoneof	i used Storage Device Manager and changed some properties in partitions, now my partitions wont ask about password and everyone can access it, how to make it as default like before?	09:37
\|_ocke	:P sorry	09:38
chelz	HammerHead66: you'd want "Ubuntu 64-bit"	09:38
HammerHead66	chelz: ok	09:38
Sheepherd_	indus, well im not actually interested in C++ but rather in the whole exceptions thing, but ill go ask there anyways	09:38
brokepunk	is it like tinyurl?	09:38
indus	!paste \| brokepunk	09:38
ubottu	brokepunk: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	09:38
Sheepherd_	oh wtf... wrong channel xD sry guys	09:39
ouyes	quibbler, there is any ouyes and last+found directory	09:39
Sheepherd_	was supposed to write in #python :D	09:39
indus	Sheepherd_, python	09:39
indus	Sheepherd_, ok	09:39
brokepunk	ty ubottu	09:39
burkey	has anyone got a vnc viewer vino pre compiled for ubuntu 8.04 that does scaling	09:40
quibbler	ouyes-> look in ouyes (that is your home directory)	09:40
HammerHead66	chelz: is this going to make it like the TV channels were I can't watch what I want when I want?	09:40
kjelle	I figured it out: dpkg-buildpackage -sgpg -r'fakeroot debian/rules'	09:41
ouyes	quibbler, what is the name of the file??	09:41
chelz	HammerHead66: it's like a mini browser (like firefox) that only browses hulu	09:41
quibbler	ouyes-> .conkyrc	09:41
gheddy_zarc	what is python for ? Im trying to load this usb modem app that has all these python dependencies ? googgle brings up a zillion pages none of which have managed to explain python yet eh	09:41
indus	gheddy_zarc, its a programming language	09:42
chelz	gheddy_zarc: python is like c, c++, perl, java, etc	09:42
richi_	hi	09:42
indus	gheddy_zarc, its installed by default on most linux distros	09:42
Omar87	Hi	09:43
brokepunk	ok.. I used that link, copied my code...	09:43
chelz	!hi \| richi_	09:43
ubottu	richi_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	09:43
chelz	!hi \| Omar87	09:43
ubottu	Omar87: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	09:43
brokepunk	now how do people view?	09:43
ouyes	quibbler, there is none	09:43
HammerHead66	chelz: O .. ok. well I don't need another browser. But thanks for letting me about it.	09:43
chelz	brokepunk: paste the link here	09:43
indus	brokepunk, you need to copy the url and paste it here	09:43
gheddy_zarc	hm ok thanks indus & chelz,, any idea why this app would have python dependencies ?? its for getting a mobile modem going eh in 9.04	09:43
brokepunk	its in the ubuntu pastebin	09:43
chelz	HammerHead66: it might make hulu work. try it	09:43
brokepunk	http://paste.ubuntu.com/368769/	09:43
brokepunk	you guys are rad...	09:43
chelz	gheddy_zarc: if it says it needs it, it does	09:43
brokepunk	ty for your patience	09:43
indus	gheddy_zarc, because the app is written in that way with python libraries in source code	09:43
pingfloyd	gheddy_zarc: because it probably uses python to accomplish certain things	09:44
\|_ocke	um. does anyone in here use joy2key?	09:44
indus	gheddy_zarc, or maybe completely in python , anyways , if you install from synaptic the dependencies are automatically taken care of	09:44
brokepunk	so the problem I am having is with the home_space function	09:44
quibbler	ouyes-> in nautilus press Ctrl+H and you will see the hidden files .conkyrc is a hidden file	09:44
brokepunk	su needs to run it, but .gvfs will now allow	09:44
retry	brokepunk, where's the prob?	09:45
gheddy_zarc	yeah i miss synaptic	09:45
chelz	\|_ocke: what's the issue?	09:45
indus	gheddy_zarc, dont you have that package in synaptic	09:45
retry	if [ "$interactive" = "1" ];	09:45
brokepunk	from what I read it is a fuse issue....	09:45
retry	this is wrong	09:45
\|_ocke	chelz, i don't know how to set it up so i can use emulators with it	09:45
brokepunk	not sure what fuse is yet...	09:45
indus	!nick > brokepunk	09:45
brokepunk	google is unclear	09:45
ubottu	brokepunk, please see my private message	09:45
\|_ocke	i want to set up an .rc file for it	09:45
Info	cv gsd	09:45
ouyes	as usual, my ubuntu will automatically mount the ntfs partition of my hard drive, but now i can not find the partition,how to make ubuntu automatically mount my ntfs partition just like a usb hd?	09:45
retry	if [ "x$interactive" -eq "x1" ];	09:45
brokepunk	how?	09:46
retry	use that	09:46
\|_ocke	but i don't know the syntax	09:46
Info	hallo	09:46
retry	actually -eq is for integers	09:46
indus	!who \| brokepunk	09:46
chelz	\|_ocke: look for a manual or documentation in that project	09:46
ubottu	brokepunk: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	09:46
retry	use ==	09:46
\|_ocke	the man page doesn't explain it at all	09:46
gheddy_zarc	the pc is not connected to the web so synaptic is no use, Ive downloaded all the files onto a usb stick from an xp box but can I use synaptic to install those ? I didnt think so , I thought I had to do it manually eh	09:46
brokepunk	!ubottu>agreed...	09:46
chelz	ouyes: was the ntfs partition created before or after you install ubuntu?	09:46
HammerHead66	chelz: thank you again for all of your help	09:46
brokepunk	!ubottu> as such?	09:46
ouyes	chelz, before	09:46
indus	gheddy_zarc, hmm maybe you can add the usb as a repo	09:46
indus	gheddy_zarc, try adding	09:47
chelz	HammerHead66: is hulu desktop working?	09:47
ouyes	chelz, i am using xfce(xubuntu)	09:47
Myrtti	gheddy_zarc: there's a function in synaptic, for making a list of software you need to download to a usb stick or similar	09:47
chelz	ouyes: it should be in the list of devices that can be mounted	09:47
indus	gheddy_zarc, nah sorry not possible	09:47
ouyes	chelz, where?	09:47
indus	Myrtti, yes?	09:47
brokepunk	ubotto: or like this	09:47
HammerHead66	chelz: I don't want to download from hulu.com	09:47
chelz	gheddy_zarc: is there a way to connect it to the internet?	09:47
ouyes	chelz, it is not there in the Places?	09:47
brokepunk	ubottu: or like this	09:48
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	09:48
Info	hallo	09:48
HammerHead66	chelz: I can wait til they catch up to everyone else	09:48
gheddy_zarc	ah wow an it will search the usb stick for all the .debs or tar files etc that I ve got on it eh indus ?	09:48
chelz	HammerHead66: oh. alright. it's worked pretty well for me. one thing you might try is getting a 32bit ubuntu livecd and trying to watch hulu on it. if it works you could switch to 32bit	09:48
brokepunk	great...	09:48
ouyes	Info, english channel	09:48
indus	gheddy_zarc, well i thought its for cd roms only	09:48
retry	gheddy_zarc, you can use dpkg to manually install the packages	09:48
meowbuntu	anyone here use facebook i got a question	09:48
gheddy_zarc	mm I can burn it to cd from xp	09:48
HammerHead66	chelz: the hole point of 64-bit chips are to use them as such. why would I go back down to 32-bit	09:49
brokepunk	looks like I need to read up on irc.. before i can seek help from people on irc...	09:49
pingfloyd	meowbuntu: just ask the question	09:49
gheddy_zarc	yeah I was using dpkg I had some success but then all the python dependecies errored out for 30 lil applets and the install broke lol	09:49
ouyes	brokepunk, just ask your questions	09:49
retry	gheddy_zarc, too bad	09:50
retry	brokepunk, i told you how to fix that interactive if block in your script	09:50
gheddy_zarc	mm Im close retry eh,, a few more goes and it will work I think	09:50
Leoneof	hi, i used Storage Device Manager and changed some properties in partitions, now my partitions wont ask about password, and everyone can access it, how to make it as default like before?	09:50
brokepunk	I have been working on http://paste.ubuntu.com/368769/ this script	09:50
retry	gheddy_zarc, just keep at it with dpkg	09:50
retry	brokepunk, yeah I saw it	09:50
indus	gheddy_zarc, not sure , ask Myrtti	09:50
retry	i saw teh comment that says this part is broken	09:51
chelz	HammerHead66: because some things don't work :P	09:51
brokepunk	it works... but the home_space function requires su access	09:51
retry	and it's your if statement...one = is assignment not comparison	09:51
HammerHead66	chelz: I can tell that flash 10 is getting really good. the images are so clear!	09:51
chelz	heh perhaps	09:51
meowbuntu	ok in facebook i have a notifaction area that has been pinned on top of the webbage. how can i remove it	09:51
gheddy_zarc	mm I have a list of the erros now so I think need to install the python applets in the order the erros appeared eh,, thats my next plan eh retry	09:51
brokepunk	when trying that... it gets access denied to .gvfs	09:51
retry	gheddy_zarc, sounds about right	09:51
brokepunk	tried to chmod 777 .gvfs ... now dice	09:51
HammerHead66	chelz: yeah, but the ones that do are great	09:52
brokepunk	tried to unmount .gvfs chmod 777 mount...	09:52
retry	all your if statements are wrong	09:52
missing	i want to change gnome main menubar's background,somebody have any ideas?	09:52
brokepunk	cannot find in /etc/fstab	09:52
retry	you're assigning which is evaling to true always	09:52
chelz	alright then	09:52
ouyes	how to manually mount a ntfs partition of a hard drive?	09:52
brokepunk	dont understand why I cannot change permissions to this...	09:52
brokepunk	is it just a virtual link?	09:53
pingfloyd	brokepunk: == means comparison operator = means assignment operator	09:53
brokepunk	please expand...	09:53
retry	he aint listening ping...he's on about something else	09:53
brokepunk	very new	09:53
Info	bla	09:53
retry	pretty sure he lifted 90% of that script	09:53
brokepunk	retry... listening...	09:53
chelz	ouyes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB - read this entire page	09:53
brokepunk	I did... it is from a tutorial..	09:54
brokepunk	i am trying to learn...	09:54
retry	change the = to == in your if statements	09:54
brokepunk	do not want to proceed til I get this	09:54
retry	first thing	09:54
meowbuntu	so noone here uses facebook i take it	09:54
pingfloyd	I wouldn't bother trying to learn from whoever wrote that	09:54
damnbadluck	can someone help me fix my mount? the other night someone here told me to run "sudo apt-get remove mount" and it f-ed up my whole system. i just got ubuntu running on the disc, someone told me i could use something to fix it so i dont lose my stuff? with a chroot comand or something?	09:54
retry	pingfloyd, yeah no doubt	09:54
chelz	brokepunk: you might just have to run your script as admin	09:54
pingfloyd	they don't know what they're doing	09:54
Myrtti	meowbuntu: this isn't facebook support?	09:54
chelz	damnbadluck: hey!	09:55
brokepunk	so change = "1000" to == "1000" >	09:55
damnbadluck	chelz: hey	09:55
chelz	damnbadluck: wb guy, any luck with the unetbootin?	09:55
brokepunk	chelz... that is the prob	09:55
retry	is that eve ncalling those functions?	09:55
pingfloyd	that's like taking painting lessons from a blind person	09:55
retry	those are variables not function calls	09:55
brokepunk	you need to run azs admin to get the du command to work correct...	09:55
meowbuntu	facebook support on irc is dead even though there is lots of ppl logged in	09:55
damnbadluck	chelz: nope, tried it a few times. but i found a disc that boots.	09:55
brokepunk	but root has no access to the user .gvfs	09:55
chelz	damnbadluck: awesome, that can work just fine	09:55
retry	brokepunk, no you need to be root to read home dirs that arne't your own	09:55
meowbuntu	pingfloyd, told me to ask about facebook	09:55
chelz	damnbadluck: are you booted to it?	09:56
ouyes	chelz, it is not usb drive, the ntfs partition is in the same hard drive as my ubuntu that i am running	09:56
damnbadluck	chelz: yea	09:56
retry	du works just fine for any user provided you're using it on dirs you have read perms on	09:56
chelz	damnbadluck: do you have your partition mounted?	09:56
brokepunk	the perms are the prob...	09:56
IP-v6	hi! i updated chromium-browser ppa:daily now it crashes when starting	09:56
damnbadluck	chelz: its a different distro though, i was running 9.10 before, this disc is hardy heron though i think	09:56
brokepunk	I cannot change them on .gvfs	09:56
pingfloyd	meowbuntu: no, I told you to ask your question and not beat around the bush	09:56
IP-v6	what can i do ?	09:56
retry	don't touch gvfs	09:56
brokepunk	triwed chgrp chown chmod	09:56
Myrtti	IP-v6: the dangers of using daily ppa	09:56
chelz	damnbadluck: that'll work	09:56
brokepunk	umount chmod	09:56
retry	that's gome's virtual filesystem db thingy	09:56
damnbadluck	chelz: no, im not sure how to. i just started working with linux last week	09:57
Myrtti	IP-v6: you do realise what daily ppa means, right?	09:57
brokepunk	like I said...4 days experience...	09:57
chelz	damnbadluck: ah alright	09:57
brokepunk	but still I think I tried all I can	09:57
IP-v6	chromium-browser daily repo	09:57
damnbadluck	chelz: i remember the gist, but i always forget the commands i need to do everything	09:57
chelz	damnbadluck: do "fdisk -l" in a terminal and try to figure out which /dev/xdan is your partition	09:57
mr-russ	how should kvm guests sync their clocks?	09:57
chelz	x being a letter and n being a number	09:57
Myrtti	IP-v6: it means that you get a daily snapshot of their development branch, which may break at any given moment.	09:57
chelz	mr-russ: ntp?	09:57
brokepunk	by the by... its a shame I feel mocked for trying to learn from people who dedicate their time to "helping others"	09:58
IP-v6	i know that	09:58
mr-russ	chelz: the ubuntu docs say no. don't use ntpd	09:58
chelz	mr-russ: you could run a local server for all of your guests	09:58
chelz	oh	09:58
kwork	damnbadluck, get same version disc 9.10 and boot from it and chroot to your system and install the missing package	09:58
IP-v6	can i downgrade older version	09:58
mr-russ	chelz: and I have a lucid server that jumps forward 500 years :( and everything stops working :(	09:58
Myrtti	IP-v6: not really. You can uninstall what you have and move to using stable chromium, or wait for unbroken update	09:58
damnbadluck	chelz: when i use "fdisk -l" nothing happens	09:58
kwork	damnbadluck, do it with root	09:59
damnbadluck	k	09:59
kwork	damnbadluck, or thru sudo actualy	09:59
IP-v6	Myrtti, is there a repo for stable chromium ?	09:59
brokepunk	ill look for another forum... thank you all who tried to help....	09:59
Myrtti	IP-v6: I don't know, I've not looked into it, I use Chrome and Firefox	09:59
infid	how do you make 'find' ignore hidden files?	09:59
damnbadluck	chelz: "fdisk: invalid operation -- l"	10:00
IP-v6	chrome, google released version of chromium-browser ?	10:00
a_thoman	hallo ihr penner	10:00
Jimi_Neutral	my machine is pining others on the network but it wont go onto the web....the gateway is set, it worked yesterday but now it wont, any ideas?	10:00
pingfloyd	brokepunk: try #bash, but first make those changes given	10:00
chelz	damnbadluck: you did fdisk dash l?	10:00
brokepunk	reset your router	10:00
Info	hallo	10:00
damnbadluck	chelz: yea	10:00
Jimi_Neutral	this one is on the same router	10:00
Myrtti	IP-v6: yup, they have	10:00
ardchoille	IP-v6: this is quite stable: http://www.google.com/chrome/	10:00
Jimi_Neutral	and it is fine	10:01
a_thoman	volberg mach vigge	10:01
brokepunk	already tried the == ping...	10:01
brokepunk	and thank you,...	10:01
Info	hi	10:01
damnbadluck	chelz without the sudo command, it says nothing at all, when i use it with sudo it gives that error	10:01
greburzoltan74	Hi, can anyone help me: I nedd 2 mode for settings vi text editor to remain numbering, 1-st choice is editing ~.exrc and type: "set number", but I don't know other choice, help me pls ...	10:01
pingfloyd	brokepunk: if you're eager to learn, I recommend reading advanced bash scripting howto and the bash faq	10:01
pingfloyd	brokepunk: one of them is on tldp.org	10:01
brokepunk	from the several hours ive spent reading about this... it is a commen error on ubuntu 9.10 and deals with the fuse mount	10:02
Info	Hallß	10:02
chelz	damnbadluck: do sudo fdisk --list	10:02
brokepunk	i have it bookmarked	10:02
brokepunk	;(	10:02
G_A_C	does anyone know if there's an easy way of finding out what packages I've added to my system which aren't in a standard "out of the box" Karmic x64 Desktop setup?	10:02
pingfloyd	brokepunk: here's the other one to read http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ	10:02
IP-v6	Myrtti, thanks. how does look fonts on firefox? Fonts suck on firefox for me	10:02
brokepunk	i have no other interest in this then my hatred for all things ms	10:02
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IP-v6	this is why i use chromium	10:03
brokepunk	i was a sysadmin for a ms network for over 10 years...	10:03
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pingfloyd	that way you're learning from resources that know what they're doing	10:03
Myrtti	IP-v6: never had any problems	10:03
pingfloyd	instead of whoever originated that script, which clearly doesn't	10:03
brokepunk	bookmarked aswell...	10:03
brokepunk	ty	10:03
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pingfloyd	brokepunk: you're welcome	10:03
chelz	damnbadluck: also system -> administration -> partition editor	10:03
IP-v6	Myrtti, interesting : ) thanks again	10:04
brokepunk	ill get back to you in a few months ping... when Im worth my salt...	10:04
pingfloyd	brokepunk: the FAQ is a very handy reference	10:04
ardchoille	IP-v6: did you install kde desktop?	10:04
IP-v6	no	10:04
b_volber_	aaaa	10:04
brokepunk	hopefully i wont be as cynical as some of the rest of these mods	10:04
damnbadluck	chelz: that said invalid operation too, but i went to the file browser and my HDD is listed there, under properties its listed as "computer:///" for location.	10:04
brokepunk	now to read the rules and conduct of irc...	10:04
b_volber_	kann mir mal jemand was schreiben	10:04
chelz	damnbadluck: do you see your files in it? in the "home" folder?	10:05
Sliss_	I virtualised my laptop hd. and not I cannot boot into it, as it cannit find the mounting point by-uuid. How to fix this? The laptop hd is now an lvm mount	10:05
Sliss_	s/not/now/	10:05
chelz	damnbadluck: if so, pastebin the output of "mount" in the terminal	10:05
lars_bauer	how to install wxpython ?	10:05
edogawa	b_volber_: blabla	10:05
damnbadluck	chelz: yes, and the partition manager lists the location as "/dev/sda1"	10:06
chelz	damnbadluck: ah good	10:06
brokepunk	is there a decent tor channel?	10:06
damnbadluck	chelz: i cant pastebin here, this is a different computer than the one im trying to fix.	10:06
llutz	brokepunk: #tor at oftc	10:06
brokepunk	something with people who can help with installation	10:06
chelz	damnbadluck: yeah that's fine if you're sure it's /dev/sda1	10:06
damnbadluck	chelz: yea it is	10:07
brokepunk	llutz: cheers!	10:07
pingfloyd	brokepunk: this might be what you're looking for http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html	10:07
chelz	damnbadluck: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt	10:07
brokepunk	pingfloyd: ty again sir!	10:07
damnbadluck	chelz: ok	10:08
chelz	damnbadluck: then sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash	10:08
chelz	damnbadluck: then sudo apt-get install mount	10:08
pingfloyd	brokepunk: you're welcome. You have a good attitude. That will help with your learning a lot.	10:08
rodrii	olaa	10:08
brokepunk	wpingfloyd: why be rude to strangers...	10:09
damnbadluck	"mount is already the newest version"	10:09
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damnbadluck	chelz: did i do something wrong?	10:09
chelz	damnbadluck: did you do all of those in order?	10:09
meowbuntu	anyone here use facebook i got a question	10:10
brokepunk	thank you all and good night... to the white pages...	10:10
meowbuntu	ok in facebook i have a notifaction area that has been pinned on top of the webbage. how can i remove it	10:10
brokepunk	shot meow	10:10
ibqn	what package provides libstdc++.so.5, i can not install libstdc++5	10:10
chelz	lars_bauer: apt-get install python-wxgtk2.8 or apt-get install python-wxgtk2.6	10:10
damnbadluck	chelz: yes. after "sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash" nothing showed up in the terminal, just got a new command line though	10:10
brokepunk	meow: i imagine if you check your settings you will find it there	10:10
meowbuntu	brokepunk, ??????????	10:11
damnbadluck	chelz: the second command made me root	10:11
brokepunk	meow: I meant shoot...	10:11
ibqn	!find libstdc++	10:11
ubottu	Found: libstdc++6-4.1-dbg, libstdc++6-4.1-dev, libstdc++6-4.1-doc, libstdc++6-4.1-pic, libstdc++6-4.2-dbg (and 12 others)	10:11
brokepunk	oops	10:11
cuco	hi all, can anyone tell me is there is a dedicated channel for wubi?	10:11
ibqn	!find libstdc++5	10:11
ubottu	Package/file libstdc++5 does not exist in karmic	10:11
Muntrue	hi all	10:11
meowbuntu	brokepunk, have you heard of tabbing my name is not weow	10:11
brokepunk	sowwy	10:11
Akmens	which program do u suggest for disk check?	10:11
brokepunk	no, I have not	10:11
meowbuntu	* weow=meow	10:12
chelz	damnbadluck: each line i said is all one command, did you execute everything on each line?	10:12
=== Mowee`Bnc is now known as Mowee
brokepunk	what is tabbing?	10:12
brokepunk	im trying to follow conventions	10:12
jOZe	hello	10:12
brokepunk	but might mistype from time to time	10:12
damnbadluck	chelz: yes. each line you said i typed, triple checked, and then hit enter.	10:12
meowbuntu	brtype first few letters of persons nick then press tab untill name shows. meo <tab key>	10:13
meowbuntu	^ brokepunk	10:13
brokepunk	lemme	10:13
chelz	damnbadluck: do and check the version: dpkg -s mount	10:13
brokepunk	try	10:13
chelz	damnbadluck: after "Version: "	10:13
brokepunk	meowbuntu,	10:13
brokepunk	aha	10:13
brokepunk	!	10:13
meowbuntu	yes woo hoo you got it brokepunk	10:14
brokepunk	slow but steady...	10:14
brokepunk	or just slow...	10:14
brokepunk	could be that 23 chromosome	10:14
meowbuntu	!tab	10:14
ubottu	You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.	10:14
pingfloyd	brokepunk: your bash shell also has tab completion which you'll find very handy as well	10:14
damnbadluck	chelz: 2.16-lubuntu5	10:14
brokepunk	so... the only editor I really can use so far is pico..	10:15
chelz	damnbadluck: do sudo apt-get install --reinstall mount	10:15
brokepunk	and it does not have line count...	10:15
pingfloyd	brokepunk: editors are a matter of preference	10:15
brokepunk	yeah... line count helps though...	10:15
brokepunk	gonna try emacs tomorrow	10:15
brokepunk	cannot get a handle on vim	10:15
lars_bauer	chelz, Great , bu it only install it fpr python3.0 then. I would like it to install on python2.6 ?	10:16
pingfloyd	brokepunk: I don't use pico much, but I think it might has an option hidden in there for that	10:16
pingfloyd	brokepunk: in vim there is vimtutor to get started	10:16
ibqn	what package provides libstdc++.so.5 ? i can not install libstdc++5	10:16
meowbuntu	hi how to request an unban on freenode	10:16
brokepunk	pingfloyd: good to know... will google tomorrow	10:16
pingfloyd	brokepunk: also nano has syntax highlighting these days	10:16
chelz	lars_bauer: apt-get install python2.6	10:17
brokepunk	pingfloyd: wasted an hour trying to move the cursor then edit, then move the curso again... no instant gratification there... Ill come back to it when I want bragging rights	10:17
meowbuntu	brokepunk, you can use /me to make it an action.	10:17
brokepunk	Ill have to apt-get nano	10:17
chelz	lars_bauer: then to launch python2.6 you have to do "python2.6" instead of "python"	10:17
pingfloyd	brokepunk: yeah, vi* has a high learning curve	10:17
lars_bauer	chelz, i alredy has python2.6 , but wx is not apart off it	10:17
* meowbuntu is feeling sad cant get facebook problem sorted		10:18
la	laa	10:18
la	olaa	10:18
chelz	lars_bauer: wxpython2.8 should work with python2.6	10:18
pingfloyd	brokepunk: it has tons of functionality. Personally I generally just use it for editing config files	10:18
brokepunk	pingfloyd: 4 days in... recently laid off, so almost 100 hours though,,,	10:18
damnbadluck2	chelz: http://pastebin.com/m357fdd65	10:18
pingfloyd	brokepunk: these days	10:18
la	olaa	10:18
meowbuntu	brokepunk, how new are you to linux	10:18
lars_bauer	chelz, okey , but import wx won't work	10:18
damnbadluck2	chelz: this bootable disk has internet working so i can pastebin now	10:18
lars_bauer	chelz, okey , but import wx.aui won't work	10:18
brokepunk	pingfloyd, 4 days in... used it a bit at nbc to set up turnstyles though	10:18
pingfloyd	brokepunk: I tend to waste time trying to remember how I did something slick in vim	10:19
brokepunk	pingfloyd, mostly just firmware update though	10:19
chelz	damnbadluck2: that's good. ok type "exit" to get out of the chroot	10:19
pingfloyd	brokepunk: there's all sorts of command in it that are very handle in very specific situations	10:19
lars_bauer	kick la	10:19
chelz	lars_bauer: you could try asking the pythonwx people, i'm not sure :(	10:19
pingfloyd	brokepunk: and those are the ones that are easy to forget since they're not used very often	10:19
=== INDUS is now known as indus
meowbuntu	pingfloyd, right what you did down	10:20
damnbadluck2	chelz: ok, did you get the pastebin link?	10:20
brokepunk	pingfloyd, right now... im trying to tackle a few things...sysadmin... netadmin... security... shell scripting	10:20
chelz	damnbadluck2: yep, i saw	10:20
lars_bauer	chelz, thanks alot :O)	10:20
lars_bauer	chelz, ill try that .	10:20
chelz	damnbadluck2: do: sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/proc && sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev	10:20
brokepunk	pingfloyd, taking it in chunks.... building off one another	10:20
pingfloyd	brokepunk: I have a cheat sheet I made, but problem is that it becomes so huge that it takes time to find it in there	10:20
chelz	damnbadluck2: after exiting	10:20
damnbadluck2	chelz: ok. no visible output.	10:21
brokepunk	pingfloyd, hehehe.... yeah... i grabbed like 20 books from a friend that went to stanford...	10:21
chelz	damnbadluck2: ok now do sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash	10:21
pingfloyd	brokepunk: there's certain things that you'll do frequently and those get remembered	10:21
brokepunk	pingfloyd, they all have these handy reference pages in the front...	10:21
chelz	damnbadluck2: and do sudo apt-get install --reinstall mount	10:21
ierana	Hola, buenos dias	10:22
brokepunk	pingfloyd, i just want to get this .gvfsthing figured out	10:22
Pierreb	anyone know if its possible to install active x controls on firefox in ubuntu?	10:22
chelz	Pierreb: yes with internet explorer, ietab, and wine	10:22
Pierreb	meh	10:22
brokepunk	pingfloyd, i can move forward on the code... I even found a workaround that makes it all still work	10:22
chelz	Pierreb: http://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+activex+ubuntu	10:22
ierana	i have problems with the log in xubuntu	10:22
Pierreb	oh ietab going to try it	10:22
brokepunk	pingfloyd, changed the id -u to 1000 for my user... get all sorts of errors in the shell but still pushes data to the html page correct	10:23
damnbadluck2	http://pastebin.com/m5b6f9fe3	10:23
damnbadluck2	chelz: ^^	10:23
brokepunk	pingfloyd, just dont wanna move forward til I get this... ya know?	10:23
chelz	damnbadluck2: aha. did you install ubuntu 9.10 fresh or did you update another install?	10:23
ierana	can anyone help me?	10:23
brokepunk	pingfloyd, if you load that into your bin... it will work...	10:24
Oyoz	hi guys, i need help.is it possible mozilla thurnderbird connect 2 microsoft exchange server 2003?	10:24
damnbadluck2	chelz: i upgraded. my original install disk was 6.04	10:24
Oyoz	if so how can i do it??	10:24
brokepunk	ierana, whats the prob?	10:24
Akmens	how to check hdd?	10:24
iNightcrow	Hiya	10:25
pingfloyd	ierana: just ask the question to the channel.	10:25
brokepunk	Oyoz, yes... is the exchange server allowing incoming requests from http?	10:25
damnbadluck2	chelz: i think it must have worked that time, i didnt see any errors, did you check the paste?	10:25
ierana	when i log into xubuntu, i have to do it many times to access	10:25
chelz	damnbadluck2: yeah it worked but just in case that's not the cause of the problem i want to reinstall grub	10:25
damnbadluck2	chelz: ok	10:25
brokepunk	ierana, access what?	10:25
pingfloyd	ierana: to access what?	10:25
ierana	to xubuntu	10:25
brokepunk	ierana, like log in over and over again?	10:25
Akmens	please	10:25
Oyoz	yes	10:25
iNightcrow	My boss just called me and told me to do a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04 server on one of our machines, but makes sure to encrypt it in the install. I've never done that before, please can someone guide me?	10:25
chelz	damnbadluck2: well do you think you could get back into this live environment if you had to?	10:25
Akmens	someone	10:25
brokepunk	which version of exchange?	10:26
ierana	yes, brokepunk	10:26
damnbadluck2	chelz: yea, i think my other disks are just bad, thats why it took me so long to get it running before.	10:26
chelz	iNightcrow: use ubuntu alternate. it has an option to do a fully-automated encrypted install	10:26
pingfloyd	ierana: can you give an example?	10:26
brokepunk	Oyoz, which version of exchange?	10:26
Akmens	with what can i check my HDD?	10:26
brokepunk	Oyoz, firewall?	10:26
chelz	damnbadluck2: ah, well ok try rebooting. if it doesn't work then we'll go from there	10:26
Oyoz	i have an account on the exchange but mails cant flow 2 my mozilla inbox	10:26
iNightcrow	chelz: I cant do it with 9.04 server?	10:26
damnbadluck2	chelz: ubuntu discs tend to be bad 75% of the time	10:26
chelz	iNightcrow: nope, it's just not on that disk.	10:26
damnbadluck2	chelz: ok, brb	10:26
chelz	damnbadluck2: ah	10:27
Oyoz	2003	10:27
iNightcrow	Ok, thank you.	10:27
Oyoz	yes	10:27
brokepunk	Oyoz, does it work with ie?	10:27
iNightcrow	chelz: Is it straight forward?	10:27
Oyoz	wat is ie?	10:27
brokepunk	Oyoz, what kind of firewall... software or hard?	10:27
Oyoz	:~	10:27
Oyoz	cisco firewall	10:28
brokepunk	Oyoz, trying to help... what does that mean...	10:28
ierana	when i log with my credentials, never access the first time	10:28
chelz	iNightcrow: look over the installation manual for the alternate disk. search for "encrypt" in it and you'll see how it's done	10:28
brokepunk	Oyoz, does it work with internet explorer?	10:28
Akmens	?	10:28
iNightcrow	Ok, thank you chelz	10:28
ierana	and i have to do over and over again	10:28
Oyoz	yes, it does	10:28
iNightcrow	Last question, is it hard to do? :-)	10:28
brokepunk	ierana, how many times does it take?	10:28
damnbadluck	chelz: it says "error 15: file not found" in the grub	10:29
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ierana	6, 7, 8 times	10:29
brokepunk	ierana, have you checked /var/log to see audits of failed attempts?	10:29
ierana	it depens	10:29
pingfloyd	ierana: as in can't log in?	10:29
brokepunk	ierana, perhaps password mistyped?	10:29
ierana	ok	10:29
chelz	iNightcrow: if you've installed a linux like debian before, nope. but just read the guide a few times and be aware of any issues that might come up.	10:29
ierana	i check	10:29
chelz	damnbadluck: aha alright	10:29
pingfloyd	ierana: sounds like mistyping the password	10:29
iNightcrow	Ok, thank you buddy.	10:29
chelz	damnbadluck: are you back in the livecd?	10:29
brokepunk	pingfloyd, are these the right questions to ask?	10:29
brokepunk	pingfloyd, trying to learn sysaadmin for linus	10:30
=== iNightcrow is now known as nightcrow
chelz	damnbadluck: is that a new issue or have you had that issue before?	10:30
damnbadluck	chelz: not yet, im on the windows system until it starts back up	10:30
brokepunk	pingfloyd, you there?	10:30
pingfloyd	brokepunk: not sure what you mean	10:30
damnbadluck	chelz: ive never had this specific issue before, although i have had many, many, many ubuntu discs that have just not worked for some reason over the past few years. typically ill install ubuntu for a day or two then go back to windows, but this time im determined to switch :P	10:31
indus	damnbadluck, error 15 is because grub cant find the boot partition	10:31
chelz	damnbadluck: wait so you've had an ubuntu partition that you've upgraded since 6.06?	10:31
Oyoz	am getting this message when i enter the password :The specified directory service attribute or value does not exit.	10:32
damnbadluck	chelz: the issue this time im having is because my gvfs mount app was broken, and a guy in this chatroom named joeyjones told me to "sudo apt-get remove mount"	10:32
indus	damnbadluck, no	10:32
Oyoz	what does it mean?	10:33
damnbadluck	chelz: what do you mean? when i installed ubuntu last week it was 6.06, and ive upgraded to 9.10 over the next few days.	10:33
brokepunk	Oyoz, so you can get to the web based exchange login... and enter your credentials... then get an error?	10:33
chelz	damnbadluck: ah ok. shouldn't remove stuff generally, only reinstall	10:33
damnbadluck	chelz: yea well i know that now :P	10:34
hydester	i have searched online and it isn't clear to me if Xen will be supported via the standard ubuntu karmic distro with building custom kernels, etc. anybody know?	10:34
chelz	damnbadluck: if you can manage it, it probably would be good to do a fresh install instead of upgrading. it's just more stable. but we can fix the current setup. plz tell me when the livecd is done booting	10:34
pingfloyd	damnbadluck: one common cause for failed installs is bad download (be sure to check the hash against the iso) or a bad CD burn	10:35
damnbadluck	chelz: yea i figured as much, i just need to save my extensive 4chan porn collection and all my KGB info before i do a fresh install	10:35
coz_	hydester, not sure but found this http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2009090101935OSHESV	10:35
pingfloyd	damnbadluck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM	10:36
hack22	hola	10:36
coz_	hydester, also this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen	10:36
brokepunk	ex	10:36
Akmens	what to use for HDD check?!?	10:36
chelz	damnbadluck: you can do that from a live environment, for the record. you just mount the drive and copy the stuff you want out.	10:36
damnbadluck	chelz: does it matter whether i install 9.10 straight or upgrade from 6.0x?	10:36
chelz	Akmens: fsck	10:36
hydester	the first link looks promising. the second isn't Karmic specific	10:36
hack22	singa su mai	10:36
evilsherpa	hey all, interesting scenario, i can get my olschool webcam to work in cheese, but not in skype... any ideas whatsoever?	10:36
pingfloyd	damnbadluck: here's another good one to bookmark for future cd burning http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm	10:36
chelz	damnbadluck: yeah, things are different. almost always better to do a fresh install if you can.	10:37
pingfloyd	damnbadluck: you're probably going to run into problems make a huge jump like that	10:37
Oyoz	yes brokepunk	10:37
pingfloyd	damnbadluck: the upgrades are meant for going up one version	10:37
damnbadluck	pingfloyd: yea well not all at once, i went from like 6.04 to 8.04 the to 9.02, then 9.04 then 9.10	10:38
chelz	damnbadluck: that ends up accumulating a lot of legacy stuff that you don't really need	10:38
=== Cheka is now known as Chekaaaa86
Akmens	fsck.ext2: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda	10:38
Akmens	Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?	10:38
ardchoille	damnbadluck: You didn't simply change your sources and do apt-get dis-upgrade did you?	10:38
Akmens	why this error?	10:38
chelz	Akmens: do it from a livecd	10:38
Oyoz	so i don't know what i can do now.i don't want 2 use microsoft outlook	10:38
pingfloyd	it's also a recipe for all sorts of dependency snafus	10:39
Akmens	chelz: im doing that	10:39
rethus	where can i find gimp in the repos for the future ?	10:39
rethus	which repos have i to add	10:39
chelz	Akmens: sudo umount /dev/sdaX then	10:39
rethus	and where van i get the newest now	10:39
ardchoille	rethus: You mean getting the gimp from the next ubuntu release?	10:39
chelz	Oyoz: try thunderbird and/or evolution	10:39
damnbadluck	chelz: ok well im running to slimline dell optiplex, 745 and 755, and i have to keep swapping the cd drive, so if i can burn a 9.10 iso from the ubuntu pc that would be a lot easier than tearing both systems open again. i just need to get it working first.	10:39
chelz	rethus: go to synaptic or add/remove and search for gimp	10:39
Akmens	chelz: umount: /dev/sda: not mounted	10:39
damnbadluck	ardchoille: nope.	10:39
ezra-s	any good guide to confiure slapd in Ubuntu from scratch?	10:39
rethus	chelz: now i have gimp 2.6	10:40
damnbadluck	chelz: hardy heron is running and up from disc now	10:40
chelz	damnbadluck: yeah i understand. we're doing that now. i just mean doing a fresh install at your earliest convenience	10:40
rethus	but crashed many times	10:40
chelz	damnbadluck: alright open a terminal	10:40
pingfloyd	damnbadluck: I'm not saying it is impossible, because it isn't, but there is room for more issues to have to resolve on the way	10:40
damnbadluck	chelz: ok, just a sec while i log onto irc on the other system	10:40
pingfloyd	damnbadluck: I've even had it where things went bad dist upgrading up to the next version. I've also had it go without a hitch as well.	10:41
hydester	coz_: it looks like they say to build from source, etc. i guess then it isn't and won't be supported?	10:42
damnbadluck2	chelz: ok, im here	10:42
coz_	hydester, again i am not sure let me check one more thing	10:42
damnbadluck2	chelz: terminal is open	10:42
coz_	hydester, you could join the #ubuntu-server channel and inquire there :)	10:43
chelz	damnbadluck: do: sudo grub	10:43
hydester	coz_: i'll give it a shot. but i am guessing they'll tell me to come here ;) thanks	10:43
chelz	damnbadluck2: do: sudo grub	10:43
damnbadluck2	chelz: ok	10:43
chelz	damnbadluck2: then root (hd0,1)	10:43
ouyes	i want to use mv command to move a few directories to one directories in one time, how can i do this?	10:43
chelz	damnbadluck2: then setup (hd0)	10:44
coz_	hydester, well no I dont think so since xen is designed actually for the server anyway	10:44
chelz	damnbadluck2: then quit	10:44
chelz	damnbadluck2: then reboot	10:44
chelz	brb	10:44
damnbadluck2	chelz: http://pastebin.com/m28781784	10:45
=== Mowee is now known as mowetteKEKETTE
linux	jest kto?	10:46
ezra-s	Any good guide to confiugre slapd in Ubuntu from scratch?	10:46
ardchoille	!pl \| linux	10:46
ubottu	linux: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.	10:46
hydester	coz_: i am asking there. what is the key difference between server and desktop besides X?	10:47
damnbadluck2	chelz: did you see that?	10:47
chelz	damnbadluck2: i did hmm	10:47
ardchoille	hydester: the LAMP stack	10:47
ardchoille	!lamp	10:47
ubottu	LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	10:47
Myrtti	ardchoille: it's not installed by default...	10:47
chelz	damnbadluck2: try in another terminal fdisk -l	10:48
ardchoille	Myrtti: not even on the server?	10:48
indus	hydester, many packages are removed from server edition too	10:48
royrussell	hydester default security settings and packages	10:48
Myrtti	ardchoille: nothing is installed by default that would open up ports on the machine. LAMP isn't the only reason to use -server, so why install it by default	10:48
chelz	damnbadluck2: also in the grub terminal do: find /boot/grub/stage1	10:48
damnbadluck2	chelz: it doesnt show anything, just another command line.	10:48
ardchoille	Myrtti: Ah, my bad. Just assumed from the name "server"	10:49
damnbadluck2	chelz: grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,0)	10:49
chelz	damnbadluck2: then root (hd0,0)	10:50
chelz	damnbadluck2: then setup (hd0)	10:50
indus	damnbadluck now do root (hd0,0)	10:50
indus	and lastly setup (hd0)	10:50
indus	do not forget the space	10:50
indus	yes what chelz says	10:50
chelz	damnbadluck2: then quit	10:50
chelz	damnbadluck2: then reboot	10:50
danthemango	hello fellow ubuntu users	10:51
chelz	!hi \| danthemango	10:51
ubottu	danthemango: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	10:51
mefiX	why is ubuntu not able to make screenshots of a window containing the window-decoration?	10:51
damnbadluck2	chelz: ok, brb then, gonna have a quick smoke while its loading.	10:51
danthemango	I haven't even tried that yet	10:51
chelz	woo i bet that fixed it	10:51
bajorek	czesc	10:52
bajorek	czesc	10:52
bajorek	elo	10:52
bajorek	ejj misiu	10:52
KUBUS12343	zmienilem nick pomoze ktos	10:52
danthemango	what window decoration?	10:52
danthemango	panels?	10:52
chelz	bajorek: #ubuntu-cz	10:53
bajorek	jest ktos ?	10:53
chelz	bajorek: /join #ubuntu-cz	10:53
ardchoille	!pl \| bajorek	10:54
ubottu	bajorek: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.	10:54
* meowbuntu is feeling sad cant get facebook problem sorted		10:54
chelz	oh oops, thx ardchoille	10:54
danthemango	what problem?	10:54
ardchoille	yw	10:54
meowbuntu	how can i request an un-ban from a channel on freenode	10:55
m_fulder	can I send a file from a ubuntu comp to a win7 comp while in one network?	10:55
meowbuntu	m_fulder, yes	10:56
m_fulder	how? :)	10:56
Myrtti	meowbuntu: ask the op who banned you	10:56
m_fulder	banned me ?	10:56
m_fulder	aha ops	10:56
m_fulder	to meowbuntu sry :P	10:56
ksowinski	bajorek jestes	10:57
ksowinski	??	10:57
bajorek	hej suko	10:57
ksowinski	hahah xD	10:57
Myrtti	!pl	10:57
ubottu	Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.	10:57
ksowinski	zajebiscie mailes racja	10:57
HammerHead66	chelz: I can view usanetwork.com it's just a little choppy for some reason. but on youtube.com it runs great	10:57
bajorek	ja nie umuie kurwa p angielsku	10:57
ksowinski	jebac angielski!!!	10:57
chelz	HammerHead66: that's good	10:57
m_fulder	to zmien na .pl :P	10:57
KUBUS12343	dzięki panowie za pomoc normalnie ssam szybciej dojdę co i jak	10:57
ksowinski	thats inst good!~	10:57
Screamo_Smurf	Can somebody help me with internet connection sharing?	10:57
qtk	kubus, a co Ci sie zjebalo ?	10:57
ouyes	i can not copy files from a ntfs partition , it seems i do not have the permission( i am running xubuntu 9.10), anyone have an idea?	10:58
FloodBot2	bajorek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	10:58
chelz	ouyes: pastebin "ls -l /media"	10:59
damnbadluck2	chelz: still have that error 15 in grub	10:59
meowbuntu	!samba \| m_	11:00
ubottu	m_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.	11:00
Screamo_Smurf	anybody know anything about internet connection sharing?	11:00
meowbuntu	!samba \| m_fMy yes how i've been banned from channel	11:01
ubottu	m_fMy yes how i've been banned from channel: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.	11:01
michaeldobrovits	hello, can anyon help with custom modeline?	11:01
meowbuntu	Myrtti, yes how i've been banned from channel	11:01
Myrtti	meowbuntu: /msg chanserv access #channel list	11:02
chelz	damnbadluck2: do you get any menu?	11:02
damnbadluck2	chelz: i had a grub boot menu, it asked me which ubuntu kernel to load, i didnt bother trying any of them, all night long all of them have said they dont work	11:03
michaeldobrovits	hello, can anyon help with custom modeline?	11:03
Screamo_Smurf	:\|	11:04
chelz	damnbadluck2: ah well two solutions, read this and fix grub http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/grub-error-15-debianubuntu/ or boot to a livecd, mount the partition, backup the data you want, and do a fresh install	11:04
chelz	damnbadluck2: fixing grub is contingent on getting a good output from "fdisk -l" and editing menu.lst, and just backing up data and doing a fresh install is a ton easier	11:05
Screamo_Smurf	can somebody please help me?	11:05
chelz	it's super late here so i gotta be off. i do hope your issue gets resolved tho.	11:06
Myrtti	Screamo_Smurf: just ask the channel	11:06
Screamo_Smurf	i have several times..	11:06
michaeldobrovits	hello, can anyon help with custom modeline?	11:06
Myrtti	Screamo_Smurf: we don't know if we can help you if you don't ask	11:06
damnbadluck2	chelz: ok, how can i backup the data with just a single HDD? i dont know if ubuntu will pick up a usb drive if i plug it in.	11:06
Myrtti	!anyone \| Screamo_Smurf	11:06
ubottu	Screamo_Smurf: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	11:06
meowbuntu	Myrtti, ok then what here was ban message i got "You have been kicked from #facebook by ryanmerket (meowbuntu)"	11:06
M3TVF	Anybody using SDR for ham radio in Ubuntu	11:06
Myrtti	meowbuntu: /msg ryanmerket	11:06
Screamo_Smurf	ok	11:07
michaeldobrovits	damnbadluck, ubuntu will recognize u'r usb pen or hdd	11:07
Screamo_Smurf	im sharing my internet connection to my xbox, but i only have internet on my xbox and not my pc	11:07
Screamo_Smurf	how do i fix that?	11:07
VectorX	is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal ?	11:08
michaeldobrovits	VectorX, you can try making one with system > perferences > keyboardshortcuts	11:09
michaeldobrovits	VectorX, or you can try guake	11:09
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VectorX	whats guake ?	11:11
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VectorX	nm ill man it	11:11
kilev	Does anyone know if ubuntu v9.10 support i3 cpu?	11:11
michaeldobrovits	Kilev, what do you mean i3?	11:11
Screamo_Smurf	Can somebody help me with this?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing	11:12
meowbuntu	Myrtti, /msg ryanmerket ryanmerket :No such nick/channel	11:12
Myrtti	meowbuntu: then you're out of luck.	11:12
Screamo_Smurf	meowbuntu that means hes offline.	11:12
meowbuntu	Y he was there #facebok is a channel on freenode	11:12
Myrtti	meowbuntu: not everyone is on IRC 24/7	11:12
kilev	Michaelbobrovits i mean latest intel cpu Core I3 its called	11:12
Myrtti	meowbuntu: send a memoserv message	11:12
meowbuntu	Screamo_Smurf, ok hes an op	11:13
meowbuntu	Myrtti, how	11:13
Myrtti	meowbuntu: be creative and find yourself out	11:13
meowbuntu	Myrtti, i already know who i am thanks	11:13
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Guest89194	hi everyone	11:14
Screamo_Smurf	hello	11:14
kilev	:)	11:14
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kilev	Anyone installed Ubuntu on latest i3 intel CPU ?	11:15
Mateo_	hello	11:15
acsia	hello	11:15
acsia	I am trying to upgrade from gutsy to hardy and I get a couple of 404 as the upgrade tries to hit against http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-backports/main/source/Sources.gz	11:15
DJ_HaMsTa	would i be able to do a raid in ubuntu without the need of extra drivers ?	11:16
acsia	any ideas?	11:16
Quan-Time	having problems mounting an iso. tried furius ISO mount, and gmount... to no avail.. ideas ? its a .iso file (dvd size)	11:16
damnbadluck2	chelz: how do i move files when permission is denied?	11:16
acsia	it seems that it tries to grab the subdomain from sources.list but that is for obsolete releases	11:16
michaeldobrovits	Kilev, the only diffrence between i3 and i7 is that i3 is dual core and doesn't have intel turbo boost	11:17
Mateo_	i have a problem with wubi and the last ubuntu... my computer has shutted down, and on reboot, i have a GRUB4DOS ... menuend: 0x.... just after selecting ubuntu in grub	11:17
kilev	yes i'm not after difference so do you know if i7 works with latest ubuntu if it does then probably i3 will work too	11:17
sebsebseb	acsia: yeah stuff like that, repos becoming bad when releases are no longer supported, and then making trying to upgrade to a supported release an issue	11:18
anubhav	how i can configure the order of nameservers in resolv.conf	11:18
michaeldobrovits	kilev, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-kernel-intel-core-i7.html	11:19
kilev	i3 or i5 i7 if any of those supported i'd get that laptop tomorrow	11:19
damnbadluck2	chelz: are you still around?	11:19
sebsebseb	Mateo_: Wubi can mess up on people sometimes. Can you boot Windows still?	11:19
meowbuntu	acsia, wow such old ubuntu versions. we are up to 9.10 now. upgrades are not guaranteed ot be safe. may loose data. its recomended to frll install if possable.	11:19
meowbuntu	!upgrade	11:19
ubottu	For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	11:19
michaeldobrovits	kilev, it is well supported	11:19
anubhav	I have changed the "interface-order" but does not seem to work	11:19
acsia	hum	11:20
Prajwal	any one here can help me creating a repository for a distro ?	11:20
Mateo_	sebsebseb: yep, seven works (i'm on it actually)	11:20
acsia	ok	11:20
kilev	michaeldobrovits Really? are u sure	11:20
kilev	checking upgrade page too	11:20
meowbuntu	* frill install = full install	11:20
sebsebseb	Mateo_: Ok do you have any data in the Wubi install that you want?	11:20
acsia	maybe I should do a clean install	11:20
acsia	cheers	11:20
Prajwal	meowbuntu can you provide me some solutions to create a repository for a distro	11:20
damnbadluck2	im trying to copy files from my HDD to my external drive from a live disc version of ubuntu cause my main drive is messed up, but i cant move them cause i dont have permission, can someone help?	11:20
meowbuntu	Prajwal, no i cant dont know what that is	11:21
michaeldobrovits	kilev, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-kernel-intel-core-i7.html	11:21
sebsebseb	Mateo_: Did wubi even boot up properly ever?	11:21
meowbuntu	damnbadluck2, yes	11:22
Screamo_Smurf	damnbadluck try opening the file broswers as sudo	11:22
Prajwal	any one here experienced in distro building	11:22
Screamo_Smurf	damnbadluck2*	11:22
root51	hello	11:22
Mateo_	sebsebseb: i have some VERY important in fact	11:22
meowbuntu	damnbadluck2, sudo nautilus	11:22
damnbadluck2	meowbuntu: ok	11:22
kilev	michaeldobrovits I'm checking url now.	11:22
root51	where i can find xplash themes for karmic ubuntu 9.10	11:22
buffman	does debian have a software package for "scrobling" last.fm MTP devices?	11:23
indus	meowbuntu, gksu nautilus	11:23
sebsebseb	Mateo_: oh dear hrm, there is a way to access a Wubi, that won't boot up I mean just for the data, but not sure how to do that	11:23
root51	vista look alike	11:23
meowbuntu	damnbadluck2, that will give you the file browser nautlius as root.	11:23
Prajwal	root51 you can add your own xsplash images :)	11:23
meowbuntu	indus, eighter will work	11:23
sebsebseb	Mateo_: anyway what I was going to suggest is to just do a normal dual boot, but first you want to get hold of that data I guess	11:23
drlaj	perhaps this is a silly question... is there a naming convention for folders: should I use lowercase or uppercase letters for my own folders?	11:23
Mateo_	sebsebseb: for the wubi boot, i can choose between seven and ubuntu so i supose that it boot properly no ?	11:23
Prajwal	manually replacing the current xsplash folder	11:23
root51	how to activate my xplash	11:23
indus	meowbuntu, there is a reason why gksu should be used for gui apps	11:23
root51	for karmic ubuntu	11:23
sebsebseb	Mateo_: I thought your problem was that it woudn't boot?	11:24
damnbadluck2	meowbuntu: permission is still denied.	11:24
root51	im using 9.10	11:24
indus	meowbuntu, it can mess up permissions if used with sudo	11:24
meowbuntu	indus, i use sudo just fine from live cd ubuntu to do same other day	11:24
indus	!gksu	11:24
ubottu	If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	11:24
michaeldobrovits	kilev, the only kernel demand is smp, and it's there already	11:24
Mateo_	sebsebseb: it's not working when i choose ubuntu	11:24
Prajwal	root51 you will find a folder xsplash replace the images and logos there	11:24
sebsebseb	Mateo_: ok and in Ubuntu you have some important data?	11:24
Prajwal	i dont remember the path exactly	11:24
meowbuntu	ok damnbadluck2 use gksu nautilus then	11:24
sebsebseb	Mateo_: that is not backed up some where else as well?	11:24
Mateo_	i do sebsebseb	11:24
damnbadluck2	meowbuntu: permission still denied	11:25
sebsebseb	Mateo_: ok well it is possible to get hold of it, without booting Ubuntu from Wubi, however I do not know the details for that. Once you have the data, I suggest just doing a porper partitioned dual boot. So first you should re size Windows 7 using Windows 7 if it's like Vista, or data loss might happen. Then it's just set up a dual boot like normal.	11:25
Myrtti	Maja___: do you have Ubuntu support question?	11:26
sebsebseb	!dualboot > Mateo_	11:26
ubottu	Mateo_, please see my private message	11:26
Prajwal	damnbadluck sudo ?	11:26
kilev	michaeldobrovits. Yeah looks like it does support cool thanks for that.	11:26
root51	just replace the folder of my xplash	11:26
michaeldobrovits	kilev, the only kernel demand is smp, and it's there already	11:26
Maja___	some bi or less girl there? Call me	11:26
Mateo_	ok i will take a look sebsebseb thanks ...	11:26
Mateo_	need to eat, brb	11:26
Prajwal	yes root51 and its done get the images of similar sizes and its done :)	11:26
root51	in order activate my new downloaded themes for xplah	11:26
root51	k	11:26
michaeldobrovits	kilev, symmetrical multi proccessing	11:26
michaeldobrovits	kilev, http://bec-systems.com/site/302/getting-linux-on-a-dx58so	11:27
Prajwal	so one here to help me making a repository for a distro ?	11:27
rumpsy	Prajwal: ?	11:28
ksbalaji	I had ff 3.5.0 stable version. Enthused by its stability, I ventured to install 3.6.2pre.. I did this after I included lines deb-src and deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu - main in my ubuntu hardy repo. Later, I discovered that I could neither cope up with bugs nor be useful in making tests since already 3.6.0 stable version is out. Now I want to revert to the...	11:28
ksbalaji	...stable ver. 3.6.0 or 3.7.0. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling without efffect. I am installing only 3.6.2! HELP!	11:28
kilev	michaelbobrovits, Checking...	11:28
damnbadluck2	meowbuntu: ?	11:28
meowbuntu	damnbadluck2, both windows, one where the file is and the one for usb have to be gksu nautlus	11:28
damnbadluck2	me