[00:00] <geo> ardchoille: All i know is newer intel (only info given is accellerated graphics HD,no model) on a i3 set
[00:00] <bawtboi> hi. im running wordpress on localhost and i cant upload new theme packages over permission problem. then i set the folder access to 777 and now wordpress ask me on FTP login information. I dont know what's wrong
[00:00] <reaktae> Customizing a LiveCD, I can't figure out how to edit/disable the boot menu. Could somebody share some information on this?
[00:01] <ardchoille> geo: ok, I don't know much about intel cards
[00:02] <toastedmilk> I'm getting fglrxinfo and glxinfo errors with Radeon X1900, amd64, nothing in the forums seems to be working, how can I fix this?
[00:02] <ardchoille> geo: Have you tried the ubuntu forums?
[00:02] <geo> unixalot u still there?
[00:03] <geo> ardchoille yeah but was hoping this would be faster
[00:03] <unixalot> geo: ye man, just doing some googlin
[00:03] <geo> unixalot kk np :p
[00:03] <ardchoille> geo: Usually this is faster, but the forums are a great resource
[00:04] <LiveCDtrouble> preferably from the chroot environment
[00:04] <geo> ardchoille already googled and searched forums for similiar issue's on intel caards
[00:04] <geo> and no luck
[00:04] <yoh_> hey guys...  went to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but it's nowhere to be found in 9.10.  any ideas where i can edit the grub boot menu?
[00:04] <unixalot> geo: whats wrong with the vesa drivers they just suck?? so you want the old ones eh?
[00:04] <geo> unixalot: Idk but i can't get more resolutions, or desktop effects...
[00:05] <toastedmilk> geo: whatever you do, don't get a legacy ATI card...
[00:05] <unixalot> geo: yeah, see i have a guide. just one more sec
[00:05] <geo> unixalot: when running compiz --replace / --enable i get no whitlisted driver and a bunch of other bs
[00:05] <NET||abuse> IdleOne, if you fancy another stab at my scenario, I have advanced my situation, the broadcom STA driver is installed and shows up in device driver thingy
[00:05] <Losha> !grub2 | yoh
[00:05] <unixalot> geo: yeah like you cant enable desktop effects, i understand
[00:05] <unixalot> geo: just finding some repo's
[00:06] <geo> unixalot: kk
[00:06] <NET||abuse> IdleOne, in command line i do iwconfig, eth5 has wifi bindings, sudo iwlist eth5 scanning and i see the big list o' networks here,,,, network-manager seems to be the problem.
[00:06] <unixalot> geo: aite man
[00:06] <unixalot> geo: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/reverting-xorg-video-intel-driver-of.html
[00:06] <LiveCDtrouble> yoh_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1278577
[00:06] <grace_> still can't open firefox.. is ubuntu still under repair?
[00:06] <unixalot> geo: they are jaunty sources but thats because you want the jaunty drivers,
[00:06] <NET||abuse> IdleOne, in network manager the wireless is listed as disabled.
[00:07] <ballongen> why can´t i connect to my ubuntu ssh server with winscp or nomachinenx, when i can connect with putty?
[00:07] <yoh_> thanks Losha , LiveCDtrouble
[00:07] <geo> unixalot: Okay, but i installed xorg-video-intel-driver when i updated. How come i can't use them?
[00:07] <LiveCDtrouble> anybody familiar with customizing the livecd? in particular, the "F2" boot menu editing within chroot...
[00:07] <unixalot> geo: these are the 2.4 drivers
[00:07] <NET||abuse> IdleOne, right clicking on the nm-applet and looking at the  Enable Networking and Enable Wireless   checkboxes, the Wireless one is greyed out.
[00:08] <unixalot> geo: and you have to do all that then go in synaptic and type in xorg-video
[00:08] <unixalot> geo: then use the 2.4
[00:08] <unixalot> geo: were you trying to change it threw the xorg.conf?
[00:09] <geo> unixalot: no..
[00:09] <geo> unixalot: i just dnt understand why its using vesa rather than the intel drivers that installed
[00:10] <sanguisdex> so ubuntiu recently upgraded apachee and now I can tuse php due to a quarter meg memry limit, but I have given it 120mb os limit in the ini file anu one else know where I would be having a problem?
[00:11] <unixalot> geo: so in synaptic the intel 2.4 drivers is already installed??
[00:11] <unixalot> without repo's?
[00:11] <Losha> Alumin: are you still there?
[00:11] <geo> unixalot: Idk, it says intel ones are........let me see
[00:12] <ubuntu> Help! After a hibernation Ubuntu won't boot and it drops to busybox. I put a lot of work in getting it to work the way I want. Can anyone help me to get it going? I am booted off the live cd right now.
[00:12] <geo> says xserver-xorg-video-intel is
[00:12] <Alumin> yes...kinda afk (on a call, hehe) but I'm watching my highlights :)
[00:13] <geo> unixalot: no version though. just installed 2.4 ones from directions so gonna reboot and see how it go's
[00:14] <unixalot> geo: hopefully that works better, do a glx gears you should get a lot more fps
[00:14] <NET||abuse> why can't network-manager access my wifi? bcm4328. it's there, command line iwlist eth5 scanning shows networks,, but nm-applet won't let me tick Enable Wireless ???
[00:14] <unixalot> depending on your fx card
[00:15] <faultyground> Alright, so I'm trying to cleanup my shortcuts a bit...  Where would I find the folder with my Applications menu in it so I can group things up differently?
[00:15] <unixalot> faultyground: in the applicatins menu?
[00:15] <unixalot> faultyground: do you want the directory??
[00:15] <Losha> Alumin: ok, the scripts in /etc/rc?.d should give you a fair idea of what gets started at what runlevel. I think the default runlevel is 2, depending on your release...
[00:15] <x404x> what program can be used for voice activated recording ? I tryed audacity but it keeps crashing on me
[00:16] <faultyground> unixalot: thats what I was going for, yeah
[00:16] <unixalot> faultyground: might be in /usr/bin
[00:18] <Random832> faultyground; it's an xml file - there's a gui editor if you right click on the menu
[00:18] <MenZa> How can I change the hostname of my machine?
[00:19] <unop> !hostname
[00:19] <MenZa> unop: That's what I thought; but /etc/hostname doesn't exist
[00:19] <unop> MenZa, that's weird - you can create it
[00:20] <MenZa> unop: Just did. Thanks.
[00:20] <Jef91> Is there a way I can set an ext4 file system so anyone can read/write to it?
[00:21] <Jef91> I have an ext4 external hard drive that i keep having to chown when I connect it to a different system
[00:22] <greezmunkey> ubuntu is more fun than a barrel full of munkeys :)
[00:22] <grndslm> Jef91:  sudo chown user:user -R /media/disk/
[00:22] <grndslm> .. or if you just want to allow everyone permission on the disk... sudo chmod 777 -R /media/disk
[00:22] <Jef91> grndslm and that won't over write the user from my other computer?
[00:22] <grndslm> go with the chmod
[00:22] <Jef91> thanks yea
[00:23] <Jef91> chown is what I had been doing
[00:23] <Jef91> every time I connect it
[00:23] <grndslm> right chmod is it.. dunno if you want 777 for all files, tho
[00:24] <Jef91> grndslm Yes I do, just movies and my Steam games backup
[00:24] <NET||abuse> i'm at my witt's end here,, why does nm-applet / network manager not understand my wireless ? Using standard bcm4328 with STA driver, it knows eth5 is a wifi card, it just greys out the Enable Wireless option??
[00:25] <archboxman> NET||abuse: I was not yesterday was I
[00:25] <unixalot> NET||abuse: Is there a physical switch for your wifi?
[00:25] <NET||abuse> archboxman, sorry?
[00:25] <Jef91> NET||abuse - what Ubuntu version?
[00:25] <NET||abuse> unixalot, yes, there is but it is on,, I have been putting up with this problem for 3 weeks.
[00:26] <unixalot> NET||abuse: What ubuntu do you use?
[00:26] <NET||abuse> unimatrix, it flaked out about a moth ago, i have tried on an off to re-install all drivers, tried fwcutter, everything, nm-applet will not let me enable wireless,, on command line i can do iwlist eth5 scanning and i see all the networks around
[00:26] <NET||abuse> unixalot, Jef91 karmic
[00:26] <archboxman> NET||abuse: Does the SAT driver work??? I helped a person with a dell netbook with the same wifi card built in does that work for you card???
[00:27] <NET||abuse> archboxman, what is SAT?
[00:27] <archboxman> NET||abuse: meant STA broadcom driver does it work???
[00:27] <unixalot> NET||abuse: can you paste the results of lspci
[00:28] <NET||abuse> archboxman, this is latitude d630 with bcm4328 rev 03, i am using the STA right now and with that i can iwlist eth5 scanning.
[00:28] <fbc-mx> help! How do I move my home directory to a new machine? I tried a live CD but I can't copy folders that I don't have permission to in my home dir.
[00:28] <unixalot> have you tried like ifconfig down, then up?? lol
[00:28] <unixalot> Mine was doing this a long time ago but i forget how i fixed it, I think it was physically switched off
[00:29] <panfist> is debian only insecure because it's not as updated or through some other flaw? do you have a citation?
[00:29] <amagee> can i make a particular command that normally requires root (eg. apache2ctl) runnable by a particular non-root user, without asking for a password?
[00:29] <NET||abuse> unixalot, this is not physically switched off, i have even demanded a new card from dell which they delivered today, i've switched it back and forward 4 times and no change, the physical switch is definately NOT switched off
[00:29] <Jef91> amagee - yes but it is not recommended
[00:29] <panfist> nevermind
[00:29] <amagee> Jef91: meh.. how do i do it?
[00:30] <greezmunkey> NET||abuse, I found a tip that worked for me. Edit /etc/network/interfaces - Comment out the line "auto lo", and any other lines that include interfaces that you want NM to "manage" once done sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, and try again.
[00:30] <m3rc> If my nic is using the wrong driver, how do I get it to use a different one afer I modprobe the driver?
[00:30] <archboxman> NET||abuse: I now there was other driver available a BSQ I beleibe it was also would work with the same wifi card is there a other option for driver in system > administation > hardware drivers???
[00:30] <Jef91> Amagee - I don't recall off hand, let me look up how I did it *searches for the thread*
[00:30] <amagee> ok thanks
[00:30] <Oli``> m3rc: rmmod the wrong one first, then modprobe the right one
[00:30] <NET||abuse> archboxman, no, the admin->hardware drivers only shows the STA as an option.
[00:30] <bastidrazor> NET||abuse: possibly nm-applet is looking for a wlan0 before allowing you to enable wireless.. how to change eth5 to wlan0 that i don't know though.
[00:31] <Oli``> m3rc: then blacklist the wrong one to stop it loading on boot
[00:31] <unixalot> NET||abuse: alright, what about your users
[00:31] <m3rc> Oli``: did those but it's not associating the new driver with the nic
[00:31] <unixalot> Like
[00:31] <NET||abuse> bastidrazor, that's just weird. ..
[00:31] <unixalot> NET||abuse: have you tried to sudo nm
[00:31] <Jef91> amagee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1148021&highlight=root - let me know if you need anything there cleared up
[00:32] <NET||abuse> unimatrix, will try sudo nm- now one sec.
[00:32] <unixalot> NET||abuse: my advice would be install bum(boot up manager) from synaptic and enable policy kit
[00:32] <unixalot> NET||abuse: have you tried enable policy kit
[00:32] <unimatrix> NET||abuse: i believe you mean "unixalot"
[00:32] <IdleOne> NET||abuse: you could try installing wicd I have seen a lot of people in here with wifi issues and after installing wicd the problem seems resolved.
[00:32] <Carlis> hi
[00:32] <greezmunkey> NET||abuse, you can monitor what NM is doing... tail -f /var/log/syslog :)
[00:33] <Carlis> How do i do to open office to check the spanish words ?
[00:33] <unixalot> unimatrix: lol, it happens all the time..
[00:33] <_Tristan> my new ubuntu installation doesn't offer to connect to my wireless internet.
[00:33] <NET||abuse> unixalot, tried sudo nm-applet, no joy.
[00:33] <nyc_student> sup
[00:33] <Jef91> _Tristan What wifi card?
[00:33] <Carlis> How do i do to open office to check the spanish words ?
[00:33] <amagee> Jef91: when i clicked that link, my computer spontaneously logged out of X :S  .. trying again
[00:33] <Jef91> amagee - lol kk
[00:33] <_Tristan> Jef91: I don't know. It works with the installation of the same os/version on another partition.
[00:33] <unixalot> NET||abuse: i would try the bum, and enable policy kit, when that work, or doesnt work i recomment creating a new userand trying nm
[00:34] <Carlis> How do i do to open office to check the spanish words ?
[00:34] <amagee> Jef91: yeah that seems to be exactly what i want, thanks
[00:34] <Jef91> _Tristan Does ifconfig in terminal list the card?
[00:34] <Jef91> amagee - np
[00:34] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know the terminal command(apt, perhaps) to see if I have fglrx packages installed?
[00:34] <NET||abuse> unixalot, it's weird as this behaviour occured a while back, i re-seated the ahrdware, and it worked again for 3 days, then it failed again.
[00:34] <Carlis> How do i do to open office to check the spanish words ?
[00:34] <Jef91> Carlis - is your default Ubuntu language spanish?
[00:34] <greezmunkey> IdleOne, I used to advise that myself, but I have reconsidered. I have NM working on this box, with on demand VPN (which is really handy) The thing is that there are some things you *have* to do to your system before NM will work correctly.
[00:35] <Carlis> no Jef91
[00:35] <IdleOne> greezmunkey: maybe you could guide NET||abuse. I have no wifi card so don't have these issues
[00:35] <Alumin> Losha: cool...that's what I did by hand, was just looking for something a little more "one-liner" :)
[00:35] <archboxman> unixalot: why is every time ubuntu puts out a new version they end up with so many problems for kernel, hardware, interupt problems and just overall setup???
[00:35] <m3rc> I have a nic that defaults to using via_rhine but I need it to use rtl8139too. How do I associate the nic to the new driver?
[00:35] <unixalot> NET||abuse: so this is possibly a hardware issues... what is greyed out in nm=applet?
[00:35] <Alumin> which it looks like there is, with the service command...it's just not installed by default
[00:35] <unixalot> archboxman: No idea, im still using jaunty..
[00:35] <Alumin> too bad, but...you can't win 'em all :)
[00:35] <greezmunkey> IdleOne, I posted one potential correction for (him/her) earlier :)
[00:36] <NET||abuse> unimatrix, the "Enable Wireless" checkbox is greyed out.
[00:36] <NET||abuse> unixalot,  i meant... arg.
[00:36] <_Tristan> Jef91: http://pastebin.com/mc6aedbe
[00:36] <Jef91> Carlis - Try: Tools->Options->Languages
[00:36] <NET||abuse> unixalot, so the "Enable Wireless" checkbox is disabled.
[00:36] <Carlis> do i do that steps in oo ??
[00:36] <m3rc> Carlis: yes
[00:37] <archboxman> unixalot: this is why I wont go back to ubuntu every update seems to get more bloated and more problems... I will stick with archlinux :)
[00:37] <Carlis> ok
[00:37] <Smurfie> Hm..
[00:37] <_Tristan> if you stick to archlinux... why are you here?
[00:37] <unixalot> archboxman: yeah im going to try arch one day, and they just released alpha drivers for my wifi for osx
[00:37] <Jef91> _Tristan What is your current install Ubuntu/Distro and what is the Distro/Version the card works in?
[00:37] <Jef91> m3rc thanks :x
[00:37] <Jef91> Carlis -
[00:38] <NET||abuse> hmm, how do i use wicd?
[00:38] <_Tristan> Jef91: I've got two partitions on the same box of ubuntu 9.10, this one I'm on now works and my new one doesn't
[00:38] <Jef91> Carlis - FYI I had no idea how to change that - I just googled it...
[00:38] <Jef91> NET||abuse - you don't, it blows hardcore IMO
[00:38] <unixalot> NET||abuse: okay i found the solution
[00:38] <archboxman> Tristam: help other users I use Linux MInt 7.. I can help with xorg.conf questions and setup and few more problems :)
[00:38] <NET||abuse> unixalot, ahhh? :) cool
[00:38] <greezmunkey> NET||abuse, If you apt-get install wicd, it will uninstall NM as it replaces it, pretty painless.
[00:38] <Smurfie> Where on this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation   do I find the installation for 8.04?
[00:38] <m3rc> Jef91: Google's the secret linux pro help tool. I heard the FBI's using it now.
[00:39] <Jef91> archboxman - I don't even refer to it has Mint unless I am on the mint boards
[00:39] <NET||abuse> greezmunkey, i've already done that, there's no icons to run it, running from command line produces no output... bleh... weird
[00:39] <Jef91> For most intents and fixing issues mint == ubuntu
[00:39] <harjot__> is there a ubuntu 8.04 skype version for download anywhere?
[00:39] <archboxman> Jef91: why they all run Debian
[00:39] <greezmunkey> NET||abuse, yikes, that is strange!
[00:39] <unixalot> NET||abuse: just got a question
[00:39] <rahduke> can anyone point me to an app that monitors my SSH server, i really want something simple that has a GUI
[00:39] <NET||abuse> unixalot, ok, shoot
[00:39] <IdleOne> NET||abuse: log out and back in and wicd will ( cross fingers ) kick in and just work
[00:40] <unixalot> NET||abuse: do you want to use nm wireless or can you succesfully connect to wifi using terminal methods like ifconfig iwconfig
[00:40] <greezmunkey> NET||abuse, there is that :)
[00:40] <unixalot> NET||abuse: would help determine the bug being software/hardware
[00:40] <geirha> Smurfie: help.ubuntu.com -> 8.04 -> Installing Ubuntu (at the bottom), but yeah, there should've been a link for the LTS on that page too
[00:40] <NET||abuse> unixalot, i'd definately prefer to use nm.. remembering the cli series of commands just isn't what i need
[00:40] <archboxman> Jef91: last time I was on here we had to go to the debian chatroom to fix individuals xorg.conf file I almost certian no ubuntu user would have fixed it...
[00:40] <Smurfie> Ahh ok, thank you geirha :]
[00:41] <rahduke>  can anyone point me to an app that monitors my SSH server, i really want something simple that has a GUI, comeon someone knows something!
[00:41] <Carlis> I have chosen spanish in Tool+option and language but OO doesnt check the spanish word
[00:41] <unixalot> NET||abuse: apparently you have to blacklist the dell-laptop kernel module
[00:41] <jOZe> hello
[00:41] <Jef91> archboxman - yep, Linux is Linux
[00:41] <NET||abuse> unixalot, oh god? what?
[00:41] <unixalot> NET||abuse: dell tries to save power by not enabling the hardware till the wifi signal apperas
[00:41] <m3rc> rahduke: Try Webmin
[00:41] <blakkheim> rahduke: grep ssh /var/log/auth.log | tail -f
[00:41] <_Tristan> lol.
[00:41] <Jef91> archboxman For really complex questions most times I have to go to LinuxQuestions.org to get a solution because UbuntuForums.org gets no answers
[00:41] <NET||abuse> unixalot, will that kill other stuff though like the fn keys?
[00:41] <NET||abuse> unixalot, volume up down?
[00:41] <greezmunkey> rahduke, what info do you want to see on the SSH server?
[00:42] <rahduke> blakkheim: im looking for something with a gui
[00:42] <rahduke> just want to monitor who connects, and speed of streams and stuff
[00:42] <blakkheim> rahduke: xterm -e "grep ssh /var/log/auth.log | tail -f"
[00:42] <Jef91> Anyone here had any luck getting audio to pipe through the HDMI on a nVidia card under Linux? I've been less than successful thus far
[00:42] <unixalot> NET||abuse: No idea for i have not done so, but um
[00:42] <_Tristan> blakkheim: you beat me to it.
[00:42] <NET||abuse> unixalot, what's the package called?
[00:42] <unixalot> NET||abuse: you should try to turn off wireless manual and see if you can connect
[00:42] <archboxman> Jef91: I write alot of responses on LinuxQuestions.org ... :)
[00:42] <geirha> Carlis: In OO, Tools -> Language -> For all text -> Spanish
[00:42] <rahduke> blakkheim: that didnt work
[00:42] <unixalot> NET||abuse: network manager detecs the change and shows the wireless checkmark as enables?
[00:43] <jOZe> any idea about a firefox 3.5.7 + flash plugin 10.0.r42 on ubuntu 9.10 amd64  that crash on some pages with flash ?
[00:43] <NET||abuse> unimatrix, no i tried that a bunch, didn't help.
[00:43] <unixalot> NET||abuse: re-enable wireless using the hardware switch
[00:43] <Jef91> archboxman Very good, I mostly just help with people having Wine issues. I'm mostly useless for most other problems lol
[00:43] <Smurfie> Hey geirha. Which one would I click?: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/index.html
[00:43] <SaEeDIRHA> hi, i have problem with my display resolution, my screen resolution works fine , but when i login to my account it resize my resolution , is there anyway that i can stop it to resize my display resolution  when i login to my account ?
[00:43] <anil56554> joze: that's the problem with firefox and flash
[00:43] <rahduke> m3rc: webmin seems liek overkill for what im doing
[00:43] <archboxman> Jef91: did you vote for linux operating system of the year on Linuxquestions.org???
[00:43] <Jef91> j0Ze - 64bit flash on Linux is shaky at best
[00:43] <SaEeDIRHA> i have Nvidia graphic card
[00:43] <Jef91> archboxman Of, course. I'm an Ubuntu boy at heart
[00:43] <nyc_student> is it possible to connect a laptop running ubuntu to a schools network and have students use the logins created for them be use-able and takes them to there own folder in the network?
[00:44] <geirha> Smurfie: Graphical Install
[00:44] <rahduke> SaEeDIRHA: i can help u
[00:44] <rahduke> hang on one sec
[00:44] <Smurfie> Okies.
[00:44] <m3rc> rahduke: that's the only one I know of
[00:44] <SaEeDIRHA> rahduke: would you please tell me how ?
[00:44] <unixalot> NET||abuse: others with your same wifi have had succes with using wicd instead of nm wich points the finger at gnomenm
[00:44] <archboxman> well got to run to work have a good day :)
[00:44] <Jef91> I have two Ubuntu systems, One Mint (so Ubuntu again), and then my phone is Maemo :)
[00:44] <Jef91> archboxman - peace
[00:44] <NET||abuse> unixalot, right, gonna restart X see if wicd kicks in.
[00:44] <rahduke> SaEeDIRHA: i had the same issue on my htpc, i have to boot it and check what i did... u use nvidia-settings manager right?
[00:44] <NET||abuse> unixalot, br
[00:45] <NET||abuse> b
[00:45] <jOZe> thanks
[00:45] <unixalot> NET||abuse: i would go for blacklist dell module
[00:45] <SaEeDIRHA> yes
[00:45] <CyberaX2195> Could not connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (194.169.254.10). - connect (113: No route to host)
[00:45] <CyberaX2195> thats a new one!
[00:45] <Smurfie> Uhm, should I be making this disc from another computer other than the one I'm trying to upgrade?
[00:45] <Carlis> geirha didnt work
[00:45] <rahduke> SaEeDIRHA: goto preferences Startup Applications
[00:46] <rahduke> add nvidia-settings -l as a startup item
[00:46] <CyberaX2195> methinks gb.archive.ubuntu.com == f00barred lol
[00:46] <SaEeDIRHA> ok
[00:46] <rahduke> you will be straight
[00:46] <rahduke> thats a lowercase L btw
[00:46] <Carlis> what another steps can I do geirha ?
[00:46] <rww> CyberaX2195: It's down for me right now too. Try a different mirror.
[00:47] <rww> CyberaX2195: (it happens occasionally, unfortunately ):
[00:47] <SaEeDIRHA> rahduke:  ok, and ?
[00:47] <NET||abuse> unixalot, hmm, wicd came up, can't find my own wifi ssid
[00:48] <unixalot> NET||abuse: its probably interefering with gnome nm, wich is x10 better then wicd... imo..
[00:48] <NET||abuse> unixalot, can find about 20 0others :)
[00:48] <rahduke> SaEeDIRHA: once its done its done, log out and log back in or restart
[00:48] <unixalot> NET||abuse: k well
[00:48] <Jef91> What is the best way to setup an automatic nightly backup of my Documents folder to an external hard drive on Linux?
[00:48] <unixalot> NET||abuse: the solutin isi rather simple
[00:48] <geirha> Carlis: Hm. That's odd, it should've worked.
[00:48] <Smurfie> geirha, should I be making this disc from another computer other than the one I'm trying to upgrade?
[00:48] <unixalot> NET||abuse: terminal, rmmod dell-laptop
[00:48] <unixalot> than
[00:48] <SaEeDIRHA> rahduke:  you said "goto preferences Startup Applications" and do what ?
[00:48] <Carlis> for me didn work
[00:48] <unixalot> NET||abuse: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/dell-laptop.conf
[00:49] <rahduke> add nvidia-settings -l as a startup item
[00:49] <rahduke> nvidia-settings -l is the command
[00:49] <rahduke> name it whatever u want
[00:49] <SaEeDIRHA> ok
[00:49] <unixalot> NET||abuse: once dell firmware updates are available for karmic this shouldnt b a problem
[00:49] <Carlis> what else can i do geirha ?
[00:49] <geirha> Smurfie: Upgrade? You don't use a disc to upgrade. You just use the update-manager. System -> Administration -> Updates
[00:49] <NET||abuse> unixalot, ahh, i see..
[00:50] <Smurfie> I've already messed up my system. And I have to do it through a disc or usb stick.
[00:50] <Smurfie> And.. I'm a few versions behind.
[00:50] <unixalot> NET||abuse: or try to boot with the kill switch off on the wifi
[00:50] <unixalot> NET||abuse: But try the blacklist first
[00:50] <geirha> Carlis: Have you set spanish as the default language in open office?
[00:50] <SaEeDIRHA> rahduke:  thankx, let me check it and if i have problem i will come back
[00:51] <NET||abuse> unixalot, will try that i suppose.
[00:51] <rahduke> kk
[00:51] <geirha> Smurfie: Ah, well it doesn't matter where you burn it
[00:51] <Smurfie> Ahk.
[00:51] <unixalot> NET||abuse: do you know how to use the terminal
[00:51] <unixalot> Open terminal i guide u threw
[00:51] <cookta2012> !wine
[00:52] <RyanD> Hi all. I am running 9.10 and put my desktop into Hibernate last night. When I tried to boot up today it gives up waiting for root device and drops to busybox. From the live cd I cannot see the disk at all but my bios recognizes it. Is my drive toast? If not how can I fix this? Thanks.
[00:52] <robert__> x cell
[00:52] <Carlis> yes, I do it in tool + option and language in the western field and I chosen spanish (spain )
[00:54] <ima> keyserver keeps timing out..
[00:55] <eedge> Hey :0) quick question, if I wanted to have a external hostname resolve to something on a local box that was less obscure, could I use the host file for this and if so how?
[00:55] <Smurfie> Well, crap. I got photo cd's instead of the other kind >_<  usb stick instead. Hopefully this works.
[00:55] <geirha> Carlis: Hm. Well, try marking all text in the document (Ctrl+a) and set spanish as the language for the selection
[00:55] <ayam_jago> hello
[00:55] <skynet|PC> does xchat support scripting?
[00:55] <eedge> (have mysql hosted, and the given hostname is a bit special, would like to reference it with something a bit more sensible in applications)
[00:55] <skynet|PC> on ubuntu
[00:55] <ayam_jago> i need some help with my ubuntu plz
[00:55] <anil56554> eedge:yes i think you can
[00:55] <geirha> Smurfie: o_O  A cd is a cd ...
[00:55] <Smurfie> O.o
[00:56] <eedge> anil56554, fantastic! this is why I love #ubuntu :-) any idea how?
[00:56] <Smurfie> It doesn't matter that I got photo cds?
[00:56] <ima> gpg: keyserver timed out
[00:56] <geirha> Smurfie: Just put in an empty one, right click the iso-file and choose burn/write
[00:56] <pingfloyd> ayam_jago: you need to be a bit more specific
[00:56] <Smurfie> <.< Don't mind me.. I have my blonde moments.
[00:56] <raffaele> ciao
[00:57] <raffaele> !list
[00:57] <geirha> Smurfie: I don't really know what photo cds is. If they are writable and are the same size as "regular" cds, they should work just fine.
[00:57] <Carlis> The issue persist geirha
[00:57] <kermit> why isn't apt-get removing the files, even though it says the packages are removed?
[00:57] <anil56554> eedge:its in the /etc/host
[00:57] <Alumin> kermit: it doesn't remove config files
[00:57] <Alumin> kermit: if you want it to completely eradicate the package, use --purge
[00:57] <skynet|PC> e
[00:58] <rww> kermit: apt-get doesn't remove system-wide configuration files unless you use purge. It never removes per-user configuration files stored in your home folder.
[00:58] <kermit> rww: it's not even removing anything
[00:58] <rww> kermit: which package?
[00:58] <Alumin> hmm
[00:58] <rahduke> if i want to launch an app remotely thru SSH like firefox for example, what is the command?
[00:58] <ayam_jago> have usplash error on startup
[00:58] <kermit> rww: several large games
[00:58] <rahduke> it keeps telling me no display specified
[00:58] <anil56554> eedge:check it out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3407
[00:58] <Alumin> rahduke: same as it would be locally
[00:58] <rww> kermit: which package?
[00:58] <ayam_jago> and show low graphic mode
[00:58] <rww> kermit: as in, the actual name?
[00:58] <faultyground> Alright, Ive two questions, I'll start with the easy one...  What happened to the "Sessions" feature from the preferences menu?  I'd like to set up a couple apps to run at login.
[00:58] <Gnewt> I want to run Xen hypverisor with a current Ubuntu Karmic install, but it's not built into the kernel. Would compiling my own kernel with Xen patches from the kernel.org sources have any adverse effects?
[00:58] <rahduke> Alumin: it says no display specified
[00:58] <TomV_415> I've been struggling with an ubuntu install all day - I think at this point I just need help getting the grub meun.lst correct
[00:59] <kermit> rww: snowballz abuse-frabs pingus slune adanaxisgpl frozen-bubble egoboo trackballs xmoto wormux tremulous neverball supertuxkart openarena vegastrike torcs sauerbraten alien-arena
[00:59] <Alumin> rah: ah, looks like your SSH client didn't set up the forward
[00:59] <Alumin> rahduke: log out, and reconnect with "ssh -X ..."
[00:59] <rahduke> Alumin: oh i c what u mean
[00:59] <kermit> rww: several GB of stuff in /usr/share/games .. its all still there
[00:59] <Smurfie> o_o Apparently I screwed up my cd drive too. Lovely. Its not recognizing that there's a disc in there.
[00:59] <geirha> Carlis: I don't know then ... perhaps try the spanish ubuntu channel (#ubuntu-es), maybe they've encountered the same problem.
[00:59] <ayam_jago> pingfloyd: The error says :usplash: Setting mode 1152x864 failed usplash: Using mode 1024x768. I don't how to solve this problem.
[01:00] <rahduke> wow SSH is so amazing
[01:00] <rww> kermit: no error messages during apt-get remove?
[01:00] <TomV_415> I think I hate grub2... :-)
[01:00] <marcosRz> How do I add a contact from a guy (who emailed) me on Evolution?
[01:00] <Carlis> ok. Thanks geirha
[01:00] <kermit> rww: none
[01:00] <maco> marcosRz: try right clicking the "from" person and maybe there's "add to contacts"?
[01:00] <rahduke> SSH is the greatest thing ive ever found, seriously its incredible..... I went as far as to try to install a VPN server to avoid SSH cuz i thought it was hard
[01:00] <Carlis> #ubuntu-es
[01:00] <kermit> rww: this might be correct "After this operation, 122MB disk space will be freed."  it should have removed several GB
[01:00] <rahduke> SSH is efffing simple
[01:01] <sekyourbox> will this work with ubuntu: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 512MB DDR2 PCI Graphics Card ?
[01:01] <marcosRz> do you think I"m retarted?
[01:01] <ima> how do I check to see if I've got the amd64 version or the i386 version of wine?
[01:01] <eedge> anil56554, cheers :-) trying to get it to work with hostname --> hostname instead of with IP's, testing atm!
[01:01] <faultyground> Using 9.10, how can I set a program to launch on startup?
[01:01] <geirha> ima: file "$(type -P wine)"
[01:02] <rww> kermit: Can you give me an example filename that's still in /usr/share/games ?
[01:02] <anil56554> ima:which pc do you have
[01:02] <maco> marcosRz: i thought that was how it worked. havent used it in a while.  but hey, you did just spell "retarded" with two Ts...
[01:02] <boourns> faultyground, system > prefrences > startup applications
[01:02] <ima> geirha, thank you
[01:02] <TomV_415> Is it true that grub2 doesn't understand uuid for disks?
[01:02] <unixalot> grub 2 is crap
[01:02] <unixalot> lol
[01:02] <unixalot> I like the legacy
[01:02] <TomV_415> unixalot: yes yes true.
[01:02] <ayam_jago> The error says :usplash: Setting mode 1152x864 failed usplash: Using mode 1024x768. I don't how to solve this problem. im using nVidia GeForce Fx5500
[01:02] <faultyground> boourns *facepalm*  thanks.  I kept looking for the old "Sessions" and didnt even notice.
[01:02] <maco> marcosRz: and if it doesnt work like that, file a usability bug, because it should
[01:02] <marcosRz> maco, English is not my first language
[01:02] <marcosRz> :P
[01:03] <kermit> rww: /usr/share/alien-arena/data1/textures/martian/tree2_tga.tga
[01:03] <boourns> faultyground, yep its confusing it keeps moving around between versions
[01:03] <TomV_415> unixalot: maybe more like 'not ready for primetime' than crap :-)
[01:03] <unixalot> TomV_415: yes well, its more so that you cant mess up your boot
[01:03] <unixalot> TomV_415: with all those different config files
[01:03] <MrKeuner> hi, is duplex printing possible in Karmic? I am using hp4250n which I believe is duplex capable
[01:04] <TomV_415> unixalot: I'm deep in the middle of trying to work my way out of that very problem...
[01:04] <rww> kermit: did apt-get remove the "alien-arena-data" package?
[01:04] <TomV_415> unixalot: after a complete reinstall of ubuntu, I still can't get the bootloader to work.
[01:04] <kermit> rww: no, that worked, thanks
[01:05] <rww> kermit: no problem, glad I could help :)
[01:05] <tucemiux> any one knows if you can tether and sync a phone that has windows mobile??
[01:05] <skynet|PC> LOAD -e script#1
[01:05] <boourns> TomV_415, may i suggest the "super grub" boot disc?
[01:06] <vladc> Hi, does anyone know what package in 9.10 includes the "tclkit" executable?
[01:06] <TomV_415> boourns: I have used the supergrub boot disk... lets me get back to windows, but I need to fix how it opens ubuntu... trying to sort that out now.. (fdisk -l ...)
[01:06] <MenZa> !find tclkit | vladc
[01:06] <kermit> rww: i guess i'll do this: find   snowballz abuse-frabs pingus slune adanaxisgpl frozen-bubble egoboo trackballs xmoto wormux tremulous neverball supertuxkart openarena vegastrike torcs sauerbraten alien-arena -type f|xargs dpkg -S|cut -d: -f1|sort -u|xargs apt-get remove
[01:06] <boourns> TomV_415, did you try the "auto linux" option?
[01:06] <MenZa> vladc: Out of luck, it would seem.
[01:06] <TomV_415> boourns: I'll try it again...
[01:07] <zilkomaa> Why i cant get alsamixer driver option shown in sound->prefences-hardware-profile?
[01:07] <boourns> TomV_415, also... from super grub, try show partitions, find your ubuntu partition, hit B for boot... it wont fix grub but its good for testing that u can boot it
[01:07] <vladc> MenZa, ubottu: That's weird, I would expect there to be a package for it. I guess I'll have to install it manually.
[01:07]  * `mOOse` listens to TomV_415  and boourns carefully as he has now got a hosed XP/Win7 dualboot install thanks to grub2
[01:07] <TomV_415> boourns: I just simplified my partiions and such.  there's no auto linux, but there's something like auto magic
[01:07] <rww> kermit: Theoretically, apt-get should mark data packages and things like that as automatically installed, and apt-get autoremove would deal with them.
[01:07] <MenZa> vladc: I would have expected it too. Sec.
[01:08] <MenZa> vladc: Perhaps the package 'tcl'
[01:08] <rww> kermit: unfortunately, unless you keep things obsessively tidy, apt-get autoremove often removes too much or too little
[01:08] <vladc> MenZa, ubottu: Thanks, I'll try 'tcl'.
[01:08] <boourns> yeah super grub is amazing... enough tinkering and u can always fix it ;) with windows too
[01:08] <faultyground> Alright, second issue, I recently installed Emerald, but it wont run unless I keep a terminal open running "emerald --restart", also defaults to gtk on startup.  How can I get Emerald running without my intervention?
[01:08] <jack45334> anyone know how to  download youtube videos in ubuntu
[01:09] <TomV_415> boourns: my linux partion is on /dev/sda5 now.. I just need to fix that crazy menu.lst, I think... but I'll try supergrub now..
[01:09] <boourns> jack45334, firefox + greasemonkey + youtube enhancer from userscripts.org
[01:09] <MenZa> jack45334: My suggestion is to enable YouTube HTML5 (http://youtube.com/html5) and simply downloading the source file linked in the mark up.
[01:09] <dukehunter> jack download firefox addon YOUKEEP
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> faultyground:  use the 'fusion-icon' tool to manage your window decoration.
[01:09] <kermit> jack45334: keepvid.com
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> faultyground:  emerald is basically a dead project.
[01:10]  * `mOOse` goes to look for supergrub
[01:10] <unixalot> faultyground: check my pm tell you how to fix this
[01:10] <ayam_jago> hello???
[01:10] <`mOOse`> this is a hail mary on my part
[01:10] <`mOOse`> I'm so fsking frustrated with grub at this point
[01:10] <jack45334> any software to do so
[01:10] <tucemiux> anyone here syncs their phone with evolution???  anyone knows if you can sync and tether a phone?
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> faultyground:  and you can use 'emerald --replace &' then the 'exit' command to close the termial if you launch it that way
[01:10] <MenZa> vladc: For the record, if you do a search for tcl (apt-cache search tcl), you might find other packages.
[01:10] <rahduke> bargggggg how is there no ssh server application with a gui? Is there any screenlet or widget or conky script that willw ork?
[01:11] <MrKeuner> is duplex printing possible in Karmic, at all?
[01:11] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, watch your language, what is the problem youre experiencing with grub? please describe it all in one line
[01:11] <jken146> MrKeuner: yes, depends on the printer
[01:11] <MenZa> MrKeuner: Sure, if the driver supports it (and the printer, of course)
[01:11] <jken146> rahduke: why would you want one?
[01:11] <MrKeuner> MenZa, do you know if hpijs supports duplex??
[01:11] <MenZa> MrKeuner: I don't. Try reading the driver documentation, it should say.
[01:12] <jack45334> menza: will i have to login to youtube to use html5
[01:12] <rahduke> jken146: i want to be able to monitor transfer speed, users, that kind of stuff
[01:12] <tucemiux> rahduke, because you dont need a GUI to run an ssh server app LoL  It all depends on what you are trying to do with the app
[01:12] <JoeSomebody> ok so i been backing up a few tidbits here and there, now how do i backup my themes?
[01:12] <MenZa> jack45334: Nope; it sets a cookie.
[01:12] <MrKeuner> MenZa, OK thanks
[01:12] <MenZa> JoeSomebody: Installed as your user, they'll be in ~/.themes IIRC
[01:12] <TomV_415> boourns: supergrub gets "error: no loaded kernel when I try to load linux..
[01:13] <`mOOse`> tucemiux, I installed xubuntu on a usb flashdrive and stupidly left my HD in my laptop (despite solid warnings not to), whuch has XP and Win7 on it...grub gave me a hard time because I forced it to install on the boot partition I made for the flashdrive. It installed the bootscreen to the usb, but in that menu there's 2 entries for win7, but nothing for XP...now I can't boot to either XP or Win7
[01:13] <`mOOse`> I can get into xubuntu though
[01:14] <TomV_415> boourns: do you know how to edit teh command to get it to mount | boot to /dev/sda5?
[01:14] <arghh2d2> `mOOse`: so whats the problem?
[01:14] <rahduke> lol suddenly everyone goes quiet
[01:14] <`mOOse`> and it nuked my boot menu for XP/Win7...all I see is GRUB in the top left corner of the screen
[01:15] <JoeSomebody> got my samba, xchat, docs, pics, themes, any other suggestions before i erase myself? :)
[01:15] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, the issue here is, can you boot to xubuntu?
[01:15] <TomV_415> what % of pain here comes from grub2....
[01:15] <`mOOse`> yes
[01:15] <mazda01> anyone else have issues when trying to burn iso dvd's on generic dvd-r media
[01:15] <jken146> TomV_415: confusing%, until you learn how it works
[01:15] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, youre using grub2, just update grub
[01:15] <unixalot> mazda01: nope
[01:15] <JoeSomebody> i cant run terminal and do a "proper" backup
[01:15] <`mOOse`> I have, 20 times
[01:16] <TomV_415> jken146: you can say that again... how does it WORK?  I can't get it to see my ubuntu kernel... back to liveCD now..
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> I recall the same complaints when we all moved from LILO to GRUB.. but you dont see many people still wanting to go back to LILO now.
[01:16] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, grub-probe
[01:16]  * `mOOse` goes to grub-probe now
[01:16] <`mOOse`> no path or device is specified
[01:17] <BalSak> does anyone know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?
[01:17] <JoeSomebody> is there a way to get a list of my packages without terminal?
[01:17] <MenZa> JoeSomebody: In Synaptic (System -> Administration -> Synaptic), you can select only installed packages.
[01:17] <john4332> hi! i use ATA VOIP.... i connected line 1 to analog phone.... i can call with voip that way.. but when i connect my pstn line on pstn plug....  i cannot call anyomore with voip line....     usually,, the voip   line should work first...and switch button 0000 ..to go on pstn... even i push 0000..im still stay on pstn line..any idea how i can resolve the issue ?
[01:18] <jken146> JoeSomebody: Synaptic
[01:18] <`mOOse`> if I ask it to grub-probe /dev/sdb1 or sdb5 it says grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /dev/sdb5.
[01:18] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, im not following you, sorry---so you basically have windows in your hard drive and install xubuntu in your USB flash drive?
[01:18] <kermit> can i remove these old linux-headers for kernels i wont use again?
[01:18] <grumbly> I have a strange and kinda dumb question... A couple days ago, maybe a week, I briefly saw something for some application that "checked" the options one has set for a kernel recompile-  Might be a little off there, but essentially, it looked like it may have facilitated kernel recompilation, and aided in making sure it build/worked properly...
[01:18] <unimatrix> how do I kill NetworkManager?
[01:18] <`mOOse`> yes, exactly tucemiux
[01:19] <`mOOse`> 2 partitions on the hd with XP on C: and Win7 on D:
[01:19] <bob_0> Having an install problem...(no installable kernel was found in the defined APT source) any idea how  to fix this???
[01:19] <grumbly> i am now trying to find this... and can't remember the name.
[01:19] <dukehunter> installed 9.10 on inspiron 15 and now have no wireless capabilities. iwconfig doesnt find wireless card
[01:19] <kermit> is there a way to see what packages are using the most disk space?
[01:19] <JoeSomebody> cant get in synaptic, says wrong password, but it is not worng
[01:20] <unixalot> JoeSomebody: it must b wrong? lol
[01:20] <JoeSomebody> no its not wrong
[01:20] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, you must've done something wrong then, are your windows partitions getting mounted automatically?
[01:20] <grumbly> JoeSomebody: have you tried changing the password and using the new one?
[01:20] <unixalot> JoeSomebody: if you dont knw your root pass your kinda scrwed
[01:20] <JoeSomebody> i know it
[01:20] <JoeSomebody> i gave it
[01:20] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, wrong questions, theyre not getting mounted automatically
[01:21] <`mOOse`> tucemiux, I followed the alternative-install xubuntu's menu exactly
[01:21] <ardchoille> JoeSomebody: Did you enable the root account?
[01:21] <grumbly> JoeSomebody: try this; In a terminal, sudo -i and enter the same password
[01:21] <JoeSomebody> no terminal here
[01:21] <BalSak> does anyone know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?
[01:21] <JoeSomebody> enable root? prob not unless you guys told me to
[01:21] <grumbly> you have a terminal somewhere- alt-f2 and type xterm
[01:21] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, ok that's not a problem, your scenario is an easy fix, the hard part is figuring it out, im going to #grub to see if I can find a developer there
[01:21] <`mOOse`> tucemiux, if I go into thunar they aren't there, but if I go into catfish (which someone suggested somewhere) they ARE there, and I can access them in thunar once I select one/both of them in catfish
[01:21] <ardchoille> JoeSomebody: no, no need to enable root. should be your user password
[01:22] <dukehunter> installed 9.10 on inspiron 15 and now have no wireless capabilities.  iwconfig doesnt find wireless card
[01:22] <`mOOse`> ok thank you tucemiux  - really REALLY appreciate it
[01:22] <bob_0> no installable kernel was found in the defined APT source how can i install without getting this warning??
[01:22] <JoeSomebody> grumbly, hehe that worked
[01:22] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, you dont have to worry about accessing them after you booted to xubuntu, all you need to be able to do is detect them, if you do a "sudo fdisk -l" you should see the partitions, if not then we have a problem
[01:23] <bob_0> any ideas?
[01:23] <jef91> howdy all
[01:23] <grumbly> JoeSomebody: there might be something wrong with some authentication- I'm not too familiar with that side of things... look through the logs and make sure
[01:23] <jef91> Anyone here ever use "quick synergy" on Ubuntu before?
[01:23] <grumbly> JoeSomebody: Also, from that terminal, when in root, type passwd and change the pass and try again...
[01:23] <JoeSomebody> my prompt changed to # , is that root?
[01:23] <dukehunter> installed 9.10 on inspiron 15 and now have no wireless capabilities. iwconfig doesnt find wireless card
[01:23] <BalSak> jef91: i use it
[01:23] <dukehunter> help
[01:24] <`mOOse`> tucemiux,  they're there
[01:24] <grumbly> JoeSomebody: probably... I don't know what you're running exactly, so I can't say
[01:24] <JoeSomebody> i did the sudo -i my prompt changed to # , is that root?
[01:24] <grumbly> JoeSomebody: probably... I don't know what you're running exactly, so I can't say
[01:24] <jef91> Balsak - How do you get it to work exactly? I can't seem to get it to ever actually connect
[01:24] <jef91> Balsak - I have synergy working via the CLI but a GUI would be nice to have...
[01:25] <BalSak> ok, start by running it from the CLI so that you can see what's happening in the background
[01:25] <JoeSomebody> hang in there i am trying to figure out what i am doing
[01:25] <BalSak> next, make sure you can ping the peer-machine by name, & not by IP (this is a bug, I think)
[01:25] <JoeSomebody> not sure if i shoudl try to fix it or not, as partitions are too small
[01:25] <JoeSomebody> a list of programs at least , saved to my usb
[01:26]  * unixalot has been staring at the irc for far to long
[01:26] <grumbly> JoeSomebody: while you're in that terminal window, the root prompt should be something like root@host:#
[01:26] <Zephyrmaiden> how do i add a new server?
[01:26] <jef91> Balsak - How do I ping by IP
[01:26] <BalSak> in the server, specify the name of the connecting client in the position by name & in the server are, specify the "server" by the IP (but not by 127.1)
[01:26] <jef91> Balsak - just ping <hostname> >
[01:26] <JoeSomebody> grumbly, ok im a  root then
[01:26] <BalSak> so the same on the client & that should be it
[01:26] <grumbly> JoeSomebody: while at that prompt, type passwd
[01:26] <grumbly> No- dont wait no
[01:27] <grumbly> ignore that
[01:27] <grumbly> i'm being an idido
[01:27] <jef91> Balsak - How do I tell quick synergy which computer is to use as the server?
[01:27] <grumbly> idiot
[01:27] <`mOOse`> TomV_415, you still ther?
[01:27] <`mOOse`> e
[01:27] <BalSak> in the server tab
[01:27] <grumbly> try running synaptic &
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> jef91:  i found the quick syngery interface very odd to use. i was easier for me to juist make a syngery config by hand
[01:27] <grumbly> JoeSomebody: if you can run synaptic from that prompt, you've at least gotten a workaround
[01:28] <infid> jef91: quicksynergy is pretty self explanatory. i think it's great for creating a quick config file, then no longer using it and use synergys / synergyc separately
[01:28] <JoeSomebody> just type synaptic?
[01:28] <jef91> Dr_Willis - ditto thats what I am doing now
[01:28] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, there's nobody in #grub right now, first let's find out in what device your grub is installed: sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub
[01:28] <JoeSomebody> works
[01:28] <grumbly> hooray!
[01:28] <jef91> infid - Then why can I never make it work?
[01:28] <TomV_415> I'm in the middle of fixing grub, and  using the command dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc , the first screen (Configuring grub-pc) shows the linux command line to be blank.  What should it be?
[01:29] <BalSak> infid: quicksynergy is excellent for creating the initial config; therafter I also use the c/s
[01:29] <infid> yeah
[01:29] <ima> Is there any real disadvantage in changing the chrome user-agent thing to mozilla firefox?
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> jef91:  i recall on one of the tabs you had to keep 'adding' machiones/screens then configure the, with the other buttons/selectors. it was sort of backwards in ways
[01:29] <TomV_415> ( I'm following the process outlined here http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId842078 )
[01:30] <`mOOse`> ok
[01:30] <BalSak> does anyone know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?
[01:30] <boourns> TomV_415, no luck with super grub?
[01:30] <rww> ima: not really, no
[01:30] <shawnboy> is there a channel just for ubuntu networking issues?
[01:30] <rww> shawnboy: no
[01:30] <ima> rww, alright, thanks.
[01:30] <TomV_415> boourns: nope, got errror could not find kernel
[01:30] <JoeSomebody> gee i dont want all that back, guess i'll wipe 'er
[01:30] <shawnboy> hmm. k. thanks.
[01:30] <`mOOse`> tucemiux,  /dev/sdb5  (which is not where I want it but that's currently where it is)
[01:30] <JoeSomebody> thanks for the help
[01:30] <Alan502> Good evening, i am having problems resizing a windows partition with gparted, the slider just won't move.C can someone help me?
[01:31] <crdlb> ima: what would be the advantage?
[01:31] <tucemiux> shawnboy, no, just try asking away here or in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you dont get a reply try at different times
[01:31] <JoeSomebody> thanks for the help all :)
[01:31] <ima> crdlb, some plugins that won't run otherwise
[01:31] <dukehunter> need wireless help
[01:31] <shawnboy> anybody know why wlan wouldn't show up in ifconfig when I know it's on?
[01:31] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, you have different partitions on your USB drive?
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> Alan502:  from windows be sure to defrag/scandisk  - and depending on the version of windows.. windoes Does have tools to resize NTFS that can work a lot faster then gparted does for me
[01:31] <`mOOse`> yes
[01:31] <shawnboy> oops... there's dukehunter. I'm here on his behalf.
[01:31] <`mOOse`> /dev/sdb1 is a 30 meg partition I made just for grub
[01:32] <Alan502> Dr_Willis, it's a clean windows installation, factory default.
[01:32] <boourns> TomV_415, did you try in super grub:  going to view partitions, selecting your ubuntu partition, and press B like i recommended?
[01:32] <TomV_415> boourns:dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc  is trying to pull stuff from Grub Legacy meu.list, but that's not there
[01:32] <dukehunter> have no wireless capabilities after 9.10 install
[01:32] <boourns> TomV_415, cause if that doesn't work, you might have a bigger problem than you think
[01:32] <TomV_415> boourns: how do I view partisions
[01:32] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, that wont be a problem, the problem could be that grub is pointing to the wrong partition, partittions start at 1 I believe not at index 0 like legady grub
[01:32] <`mOOse`> it refused to install there though for some reason - is it possible it wouldn't install there because I made /de/sdb1 an LVM?
[01:32] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, can you post your grub.cfg to pastebin
[01:32] <boourns> TomV_415, look through the options on super grub its in there
[01:32] <`mOOse`> yes
[01:32] <`mOOse`> hang on
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> Alan502:  so? still same procedure.. defrag/scan/try  the windows features..   then id try gparted again
[01:33] <TomV_415> boourns: options?  Hm... let me restart and try that..
[01:33] <Carci> I was gonna join and ask for help getting my remote desktop working--but I figured out what was wrong already xD
[01:33] <Alan502> Dr_Willis, ok :) thank you
[01:33] <boourns> TomV_415, its not actually under something called "options" im just saying its there somewhere
[01:34] <BalSak> does anyone know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?
[01:34] <jef91> Do I need to manually make a config file for quicksynergy to use Balsak?
[01:34] <Carci> So uh, thanks Ubuntu people for including an easy to use remote desktop :3
[01:34] <boourns> BalSak, never heard of it... i've used ekiga and its easy to set up though
[01:35] <BalSak> jef91: you can manually create a config file so that you have quicksynergy's functionality without actually having to need to run the front-end GUI; quicksynergy is simply a GUI frontend for synergyc (client) & synergys (server). SQ elables you to create that config file that you can them make use of in your synergyc/synercys application
[01:36] <`mOOse`> tucemiux,  http://pastebin.com/m79b17197
[01:36] <`mOOse`> TomV_415, what iso of supergrub are you using?
[01:36] <jef91> Balsak - sorry, I feel stupid right now. When I hit excute on my server for synergy I get: 'ERROR: synergys.cpp,1068: cannot read configuration ".quicksynergy/synergy.conf"'
[01:36] <jef91> Balsak How do I make it create a configuration?
[01:37] <TomV_415> `mOOse`: supergrub v 1.2.1
[01:37] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, can you first try: sudo update-grub
[01:37] <`mOOse`> yes tucemiux, thanks TomV_415
[01:37] <BalSak> boourns: thanks. I did use ekiga in the past, but it's had some really serious issues. empathy is now punted as the "official" ubuntu IM client, complete with integrated video & voice: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Empathy & http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/09/this-is-what-awesome-looks-like/
[01:37] <boourns> heh you're right here it is in 9.10... i had no idea, still using pidgin + ekiga
[01:38] <BalSak> jef91: that error probably implies that the config file is missing. thry `sudo touch ~/.quicksynergy/synergy.conf`
[01:38] <`mOOse`> tucemiux,  here is the update output: http://pastebin.com/m2f4fa028
[01:38] <TomV_415> boourns: now in super grub (1.96) do I need to drop to command line?
[01:38] <jef91> Balsak - yes that file is missing
[01:38] <BalSak> jef91: but QS should automatically create that file if it's missing
[01:39] <goyangfc> how do i install java on karmic?
[01:39] <jef91> Balsak - Where do I tell QS what system to use as the host?
[01:39] <infid> why is chmod not called 'chperm'
[01:39] <Alan502> goyangfc, java is on the repositories
[01:39] <jken146> goyangfc: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[01:40] <goyangfc> what about the jdk?
[01:40] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, did update-grub work?
[01:40] <jken146> goyangfc: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[01:40] <BalSak>  jef91: in the "server" field, under the "use" tab
[01:40] <coz_> goyangfc,   opne synapitc package manager  hit Search type  sun java
[01:40] <coz_> goyangfc,  get the 6  revision and all is listed there
[01:40] <`mOOse`> yes tucemiux - I pasted it to pastebin url above
[01:40] <jef91> Balsak What do I put there on the host computer? The system's own name?
[01:40] <BalSak> infid: you  can alias it to pretty-much what you want
[01:41] <kermit> is there a way to tell what packages have been used recently?
[01:41] <BalSak> i usually put the IP in of the system that has the keyboard & mouse attached that I want to use
[01:41] <kermit> er, havent
[01:41] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, ok so grub found the OS's, can you boot up to them?  And if not what error are you seeing?
[01:41] <jef91> Balsak - I can't use quick synergy on the host?...
[01:41] <arand> goyangfc: You want the sun-java6-plugin ((and it's dependencies)) rather than -jdk though, I presume.
[01:41] <BalSak> jef91: ??????
[01:41] <TomV_415> boourns: I'm in supergrub  on the commad line, I can see all the commands (tab) what command did you suggest?
[01:42] <infid> BalSak:  just saying it seems like a mismomer
[01:42] <jef91> Balsak - On the computer I want to use the keyboard and mouse on, what do I put for server?
[01:42] <BalSak> infid: there's a LOT of legacy commands
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> jef91:  i got it working once with quick syng.. but it was easier to just use a script on host/client to launch the ciommands i needed
[01:42] <`mOOse`> tucemiux, I installed xubuntu on a usb flashdrive and stupidly left my HD in my laptop (despite solid warnings not to), whuch has XP and Win7 on it...grub gave me a hard time because I forced it to install on the boot partition I made for the flashdrive. It installed the bootscreen to the usb, but in that menu there's 2 entries for win7, but nothing for XP...now I can't boot to either XP or Win7
[01:42] <BalSak> jef91: it's own IP
[01:42] <`mOOse`> I cannot boot to either of them
[01:43] <boourns> TomV_415, what i'm talking about is a boot disc, super grub disc, it isnt a command line its a text based menu
[01:43] <TomV_415> boourns: I'm trying probe /dev/sda5
[01:43] <coz_> goyangfc, find it in synaptic?
[01:43] <jef91> Balsak - when I put in it's own IP and/or hostname it says it cannot connect...
[01:44] <TomV_415> boourns: Right, I booted from the CD.. got to command line by typing 'c' after trying AUTO MAGIC with no luck
[01:44] <BalSak> jef91: don't worry about that now
[01:44] <TomV_415> it's trying to mount a uuid device that doesn't exist..
[01:44] <goyangfc> um
[01:44] <goyangfc> yeah
[01:45] <BalSak> jef91: if you've defined the position of the other systems (by hostnames that you can ping OK) relative to each other, and use the same server (by IP) on every node, you should be OK
[01:45] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, the only difference between your config and my config is that there's this line before "chainloader +1": drivemap -s (hd0) ${root} ,  I know youre not supposed to edit your .cfg but this is an emergency, you could set your grub.cfg to be writable, make the change, save the file, and change permissions back to non-writable and try booting up to windows, you could also add your own owntry to "40_custom.cfg"
[01:45] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, sorry i ran out of time I'll be back in about an hour
[01:46] <jef91> Balsak - thanks for trying to help but quicksynergy blows IMO, just going to write a script to wrap the CLI for my roomates
[01:46] <`mOOse`> ok thanks tucemiux ....I thought that you couldn't edit that file cause grub just writes right back over t
[01:46] <`mOOse`> it
[01:46] <TomV_415> in supergrub, ls gets two lines:  (hd0) (hd0,5) (hd0,2)  (hd0,1) (hd2)   and then error: no such disk
[01:46] <`mOOse`> I'm so lost....sigh
[01:46] <goyangfc> coz, it's installing java-common, sun-java6-jre, odbcinst1debian1, unixodbc, sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jdk
[01:46] <TomV_415> (hd2) is the live cd
[01:46] <BalSak> jef91: http://gnuski.blogspot.com/2008/02/quicksynergy-quick-howto.html
[01:46] <NatureTM> hi, I recently got a Toshiba A505-6033 and my r8192se Wireless card didn't work.  After alot of tinkering I figured out acpi was to blame.  kernel params acpi=off and acpi=noirq not only fixed the card but also made the lapptop run faster.  Unfortunately it also broke suspend to ram.  I searched and found no solutions.  Just wondering if anyone is aware of the issue or has a fix.
[01:47] <robtow> Anyone know how to set up Ubuntu as a WiFi access point?
[01:47] <BalSak> jef91: & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[01:47] <tucemiux> `mOOse`, yes, grub overwrites every thing changes are made, it could work for a while if you make your own additions but they could be overwritten, that's why you can try what I told you, you can also add yoru own entry in 40_custom
[01:47] <jef91> Balsak - I was there already, my issues is getting QuickSynergy to setup the host properly
[01:47] <tucemiux> be back later
[01:47] <arand> `mOOse`: It only overwrites when update-grub is run, so "automatically" in the case of kernel or grub updates..
[01:47] <TomV_415> root (hd0,5) gets "Filesystem is ext2 (!!)
[01:47] <Blue11> hey sounds like my usb drive
[01:47] <jef91> Balsak - The sad part is Synergy includes a wonderful GUI for Windows by default
[01:48] <BalSak> jef91: functionality's pretty-much identical
[01:48] <jef91> Balsak - not in the slightest.
[01:48] <jef91> The Windows GUI was intuitive to use and worked
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> I got my syngery 'clint' set where i boot to windows or linux on the other box and i can controll it.
[01:49] <TomV_415> any help with suber grub or grub rescue?  I think I just need to point to the right mount point and I'll be all set.
[01:49] <TomV_415> I can see all the files from live CD
[01:49] <BalSak> jef91: i use QS any a very large number of different OS's, and I have very few issues; you may be dealing with some other problems (like networking)
[01:49] <arand> `mOOse`: So, yes, you can edit the file and just re-edit it each time it's changed (which shouldn't be too often) However, demands you know what you're doing when editing the file, and should be aware that it's not intended...
[01:49] <jef91> Balsak - the CLI works 100% fine
[01:49] <jef91> Balsak - in fact I'm using it now
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> I fiound the QS gui a little odd to setup. but after i explored it for a bit. i figured it out.
[01:50] <TomV_415> seems to me all admin folders should be under git... so you can commit changes and roll back anytime.
[01:50] <`mOOse`> arand, and I don't - which is why what tucemuix wrote me above is puzzling me - did he want me to ADD that line to my config?
[01:50] <BalSak> jef91: well, there you go
[01:51] <rich> hello guys, im really stuck and could desperately do with some help
[01:51] <jef91> Balsak I just wanted the GUI for my roomates to be able to use - but if I can't figure it out they have 0 hope lol
[01:51] <CakeBomb> I've installed Ubuntu 9.10 and can use the command line fine, but after installing gnome and trying to run startx my monitor won't display anything
[01:51] <ayam_jago> help me pls
[01:51] <ayam_jago> how to remove nvidia driver from ubuntu?
[01:51] <jimcooncat> rich -- we're all listening, but you gotta get strait to the point
[01:51] <arand> `mOOse`: Do you have more than one HDisk?
[01:51] <arvind_khadri> !help
[01:52] <jef91> Is there an option to toggle off subtitles on Movie player?
[01:52] <`mOOse`> arand, no - one disk, 2 partitions, and usb stick with xubuntu on it
[01:52] <ayam_jago> !ping me
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> jef91:  there definatly is in vlc and gmome-mplayer no idea on totem. proberluy is soemwhere
[01:53] <arand> `mOOse`: I think the drivemap in his/her case is due to she/he having two disks...
[01:53] <rich> ok, how do i correctly install cowpatty..i have downloaded it but am new to ubuntu so am unsure how to correctly install it
[01:54] <TomV_415> When I try to use either grub or super grup, I get  'error: no such device: 81fd4eab-etc...'
[01:54] <ayam_jago> how to fully uninstall the nvidia drivers on ubuntu
[01:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> Does anyone need some help?
[01:55] <BalSak> SpaceGhostC2C: yes, pls.  do you know how to set up & configure SIP voip & video in empathy, please?
[01:55] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: lol... we all do :-)  trying to get grub working on my ubuntu install
[01:55] <coz_> ayam_jago,   did you install them via  hardware drivers?
[01:55] <charles__> so, i know how to reduce the size of fonts for the gnome desktop/panels, but how do i reduce the size of icons? everything on the gnome desktop/panels just looks so clunky and big
[01:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> BalSak, ooh I don't really have any experience with the new empathy. It's ucky IMO.
[01:55] <ayam_jago> because i going to reinstall the nvidia drivers were still there old driver information
[01:55] <rich> anyone able to help me with installing cowpatty correctly\/
[01:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, so, what version of grub and what's wrong?
[01:55] <coz_> ayam_jago,  but how did you install the driver you have now?
[01:55] <BalSak> SpaceGhostC2C: i agree, but I'm trying to get to grips with in none the less
[01:55] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: I think I just need to set up the right mount points for my partions..
[01:56] <ayam_jago> coz_ : i install by download from nvidia web
[01:56] <coz_> ayam_jago, ok so manual install  then
[01:56] <ayam_jago> then i use : ./NVIDIA bla bla bla @ terminal
[01:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, in grub or in your fstab?
[01:56] <coz_> ayam_jago,   the command to uninstall that is    sudo /usr/bin/nvidia-installer --uninstall
[01:56] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: I don't know.
[01:57] <coz_> ayam_jago,  that will ONLY work for the manula install  so be sure that's what yo u did
[01:57] <PeterT> hi, I downloaded linux ubuntu, then burned it to a cd, then I inserted it into the drive. I restarted my computer and booted from the CD, then selected "install ubuntu". then, it goes into some code window, then a black window. the black window continues to "hang" and I have no idea what to do. is this a common problem?
[01:57] <coz_> manual
[01:57] <ayam_jago>  WARNING: Your driver installation has been altered since it was initially
[01:57] <ayam_jago>            installed; this may happen, for example, if you have since
[01:57] <ayam_jago>            installed the NVIDIA driver through a mechanism other than
[01:57] <ayam_jago>            nvidia-installer (such as your distribution's native package
[01:57] <ayam_jago>            management system).  nvidia-installer will attempt to uninstall as
[01:57] <ayam_jago>            best it can.  Please see the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log'
[01:57] <ayam_jago>            for details.
[01:57] <PeterT> !paste | ayam_jago
[01:57] <coz_> ooooo
[01:57] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: starting live CD now..
[01:57] <becker_11> Can someone explain to me how I am running ubuntu 9.10 and gpodder is v0.16.1 when the gpodder website tells me the latest version is 2.1???
[01:57] <ayam_jago> oops sorry
[01:57] <arand> `mOOse`: Hmm, read some of the scrollback again, so you are now starting grub from the usb stick? And are able to boot xubuntu but not 2xWin?  What happens when you don't have the usb in and boot?
[01:57] <coz_> ayam_jago,   go to    system/administration/hardware drivers
[01:58] <PeterT> did anyone see my problem?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> becker_11:  because the versions in teh ubuntu repos is not the latest.
[01:58] <coz_> ayam_jago,  see if any of the drivers there are actiavated ..if so deactivate it from there
[01:58] <rich> how do i install dictionaries into stardict? does anyone know?
[01:58] <coz_> ayam_jago,  this why i said you have to be sure you installed manually or not
[01:58] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: Last time after I did a sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt I could see /mnt/boot/grub
[01:58] <becker_11> Dr_Willis, I understand that but how old are they?? 0.16.1 to 2.1 that's a big diff
[01:58] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: (still starting up to confirm that)
[01:58] <rww> becker_11: The new version of Ubuntu coming out in April has 2.1.
[01:58] <BalSak> PeterT: either it's a bad download, a bad burn, or incompatible hardware. try the "alternate" ISO
[01:59] <becker_11> rww, cool thanks
[01:59] <PeterT> alternate?
[01:59] <PeterT> BalSak
[01:59] <ayam_jago> !paste ayam_jago
[01:59] <BalSak> PeterT: or a different distro, like damn small
[01:59] <rww> becker_11: 0.16 was added to Karmic (released in October). Jaunty (last April) had 0.14.
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> becker_11:  use ppa's or other repos if you want latest..
[01:59] <ayam_jago> coz_ This driver is not activated
[01:59] <PeterT> OK, thanks BalSak
[01:59] <coz_> ayam_jago,  ok
[01:59] <PeterT> I'll try that tommorow
[01:59] <ayam_jago> http://paste.ubuntu.com/368593/
[01:59] <coz_> ayam_jago,  the question is now what driver do you want to install?
[01:59] <rww> becker_11: from the look of the website, they went straight from 0.16 to 2.0 for some reason, so it's actually not old :)
[02:00] <ayam_jago> nvidia fx5500 driver
[02:00] <coz_> ayam_jago,  if you want a manual install it has to be done in a specific manner  if you want the ubuntu driver then activate under  hardware drivers
[02:00] <BalSak> PeterT: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[02:00] <coz_> ayam_jago,  ooo  then use the  hardware driver  utility
[02:00] <becker_11> rww, okay cool
[02:00] <ayam_jago> how to use it? iam newbie on ubuntu
[02:01] <coz_> ayam_jago,  that is an older  card and most likely wont do compiz very well,,,, i know my fx5700 didnt  fair to well after a while
[02:01] <coz_> ayam_jago,  it will work but it will also be a bit draggy
[02:02] <ayam_jago> what is draggy coz_ ??
[02:02] <coz_> ayam_jago,  draggy means  a bit   slow
[02:02] <ayam_jago> ic..
[02:02] <ayam_jago> so how can i fully remove this older driver to install the new driver??
[02:02] <ayam_jago> ERROR: Unable to create '/usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-cfg.so.185.18.36' for
[02:02] <ayam_jago>          copying (No such file or directory)
[02:03] <coz_> ayam_jago,  again  if you installed this manually then use that command I gave you   if you already did that then reboot  which will go into low graphics mode then install the driver  you want from there
[02:03] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C:  what were you asking about fstab ?
[02:03] <becker_11> just reloading my software sources and I received this error http://pastebin.com/d1d01eb6e how can I resolve this?
[02:03] <coz_> ayam_jago,  are you trying to install a downloaded driver?
[02:03] <ayam_jago> yes
[02:03] <coz_> ayam_jago,   sudo apt-get install   build-essential
[02:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, what exactly is the thing you need help with? Do you need to install grub?
[02:03] <ayam_jago> but i need to remove older driver :D
[02:04] <ayam_jago> coz_ iam going to try reboot then install the driver
[02:04] <rich> can nobody help me at all?
[02:04] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: I need to fix grub so that it finds the linux kernel.  It's looking for some uuid but the files are in /dev/sda5
[02:04] <coz_> ayam_jago,  make sure you have build-essential installed first
[02:04] <coz_> oy
[02:04] <_schism_> evening all
[02:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, you're using Karmic, amirite?
[02:05] <pilif12p> Why doesn't my eHDD show up on Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[02:05] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: when grub loads, it first flashes a message that it can't find the uuid , which is were the grub  linux script points
[02:05] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: I'm guessing I just need to point to the right place and it will load correctly.  Perhaps I need to mount something first.
[02:06] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, have you tried using sudo update-grub ?
[02:06] <drbanzai> I've got an older laptop (HP Athlon 1.3gz, 256mb ram) that I'd like to basically use as a netbook (ie light weight OS for minimal functionality)until I get a real netbook.  The CD-ROM is broken, but it does have working floppy, USB and wired ethernet.  How can I get Xubuntu loaded onto it, other then removing the HD and doing the install from a different machine?
[02:06] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: yes, I think I have but I can try that again.
[02:06] <Pelo> !install | drbanzai this should help
[02:07] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: I get an error on sudo update-grub  "cannot find a device for /"
[02:07] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: should i mount /dev/sda5 to / first?
[02:07] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, umm not in the livecd.
[02:08] <_schism_> how to I reset a ssh key in ubuntu? changed my server but have the same url and it wont do it and I cant figgure it out :(
[02:08] <Belboz99> Hey all, trying to get a wireless AP going on Ubuntu 9.10 using ath5k, anyone care to point me in the right direction?
[02:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, can you boot into ubuntu if you edit the relevent line when in grub?
[02:08] <Pelo> _schism_, you can delete the ~/.ssh folder
[02:09] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, writing /dev/sda5 over the UUID?
[02:09] <drbanzai> Pelo, Thanks!
[02:09] <_schism_> thanks pelo I do appreciate it
[02:09] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C:  not sure.. I can try that - sounds promising.
[02:09] <arand> `mOOse`: I'm off to bed, hope things work out.
[02:09] <microhaxo> Is it possible to replace the Bottom gnome application panel with tint2?
[02:09] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: just replace the uuid with /dev/sda5 ?
[02:09] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, that's a one-time fix.
[02:10] <`mOOse`> thanks arand
[02:10] <`mOOse`> I'm still tinkering
[02:10] <Belboz99> anyone care to help out with a wireless AP using ath5k?   They've added the functionality, but I can't find any documentation
[02:10] <microhaxo> i still want the top gnome task panel, but i think tint2 would be better for toggling the applications. I have a netbook so desktop space is limited.
[02:10] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: if it works, I will know a lot more!  I'll give it a try.
[02:11] <zilkomaa> Why i cant get alsamixer driver option shown in sound->prefences-hardware-profile?
[02:11] <ayam_jago> coz_ : You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[02:12] <Belboz99> I ran into a couple threads that simply said "use hostapd" but no one said how or where to find out how
[02:12] <ayam_jago> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.  how can i do this?
[02:12] <Belboz99> there's a bunch of links where documentation should go, but they're simply placeholders, the acutal documentaiton hasn't yet been written on that site
[02:13] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: the line in grub i need to edit is search --no-floppy --fs-uuid -- set 81blahblah
[02:13] <Belboz99> ayam_jago: at a terminal, run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:13] <gokturk_> #ubuntu-tr
[02:13] <Belboz99> at least, that's what I get out of that error message
[02:13] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: do I remove the --fs-uuid or change it to something else?
[02:13] <microhaxo> Is it possible for me to use tint2 to manage my windows when minimized/maximized and still have the gnome task panel??
[02:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, I'm gonna be honest. I don't use grub2 because it's still in beta and doesn't have full support for language scripting yet.
[02:14] <ayam_jago> Belboz99 : ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[02:14] <Belboz99> ayam_jago: did you use sudo in front?
[02:14] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: there's another line to change too, but thats more obvious setts root=UUID=83djfblabbl
[02:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, that's the one
[02:14] <Belboz99> that command should be: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:14] <ayam_jago> Belboz99 : no :)
[02:15] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C:s still we're on the right track.
[02:15] <SpaceGhostC2C> belboz gksudo nvidia-settings ?
[02:15] <Belboz99> ayam_jago: think of the sudo command as saying: super user do ...
[02:15] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, you should remove everything up to UUID, only have root= and put /dev/sda5
[02:15] <Belboz99> SpaceGhostC2C: why gk?  it's all at the CLI
[02:15] <ayam_jago> Belbozz99 : i still cant configure this nvidia
[02:15] <maco> SpaceGhostC2C: why are you removing UUIDs?
[02:16] <Caber> hi
[02:16] <Belboz99> ayam_jago: I found the easiest way to handle nvidia drivers was with envy
[02:16] <maco> SpaceGhostC2C: UUIDs work even if libata changes the format of the /dev names (like when ide devs went from /dev/hda to /dev/sda a couple releasess back)
[02:16] <ayam_jago> how can i do that?
[02:16]  * ayam_jago newbie on ubuntu just using this few days ago
[02:16] <Belboz99> ayam_jago: open up software center in Applications, and search for envy
[02:16] <airtonix> if i install ubuntu-netbook-remix on a netbook and then revert the desktop to traditional gnome mode (as ubuntu desktop uses) will i still retain the benefits of the optimisations towards an intel atom processor that the ubuntu-netbook-remix has ?
[02:16] <SpaceGhostC2C> maco, I know that, he doesn't necessarily have the right UUID though.
[02:17] <maco> SpaceGhostC2C: not hard to find out the right UUID
[02:17] <ayam_jago> EnvyNG ?
[02:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> maco, I'm gonna have him put it in after he boots into ubuntu.
[02:17] <maco> SpaceGhostC2C: just type "blkid" and it'll tell you
[02:17] <Belboz99> ayam_jago: right!
[02:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> maco, I know that.
[02:17] <maco> SpaceGhostC2C: ok
[02:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> maco, thanks friend.
[02:17] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: sounds good , having trouble with the search line I removed say 'unspecified search type'
[02:17] <ayam_jago> Belboz99 : thanks.. in progress
[02:18] <Belboz99> once that's installed, you should find it in Applications > System Tools
[02:18] <ayam_jago> Belboz99 : what should i do now?
[02:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> Do we have any grub2 pros about? I know legacy, not the newer one.
[02:19] <Belboz99> ayam_jago: does clicking on it in the applications menu do anything?
[02:19] <Belboz99> (serious question btw, it doesn't on my end)
[02:19] <ayam_jago> nothing happen
[02:19] <orbisvicis> whats the default desktop search for 9.10, tracker or beagle or recoll or etc ?
[02:20] <ayam_jago> Belboz99: i click @ application, systemtools, envyNG but not shown anything
[02:20] <punisher> hola
[02:20] <overmacht> ayam_jago; apa kabar? having problem?
[02:20] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: success!! found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 which says remove the search line from the script ... and now it's booting
[02:21] <Belboz99> okay, seems they don't give you the graphical verison ayam_jago, you'll need to open a terminal and type sudo envyng -t
[02:21] <punisher> ayuda con amsn
[02:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, sounds like win to me :)
[02:21] <ayam_jago> overmatch: baik terimakasih.. have some trouble with my vga driver
[02:21] <Belboz99> they used to have a graphical version, I'm not sure where that went ayam_jago, sorry
[02:21] <TomV_415> definitely!  how do I make that change permenent?
[02:21] <punisher> alguien sabe como configurar webcam para amsn
[02:21] <ayam_jago> ok thanks Belboz99
[02:21] <Belboz99> ayam_jago: it might be easier if you use the hardware manager
[02:21] <coolmadmax> ok
[02:21] <xangua> !es | punisher
[02:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, you'll have to backup your grub.conf and then make the changes.
[02:22] <Belboz99> Under System > Administration > Hardware Devices
[02:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, in /boot/grub/
[02:22] <Belboz99> that won't likely get the latest bleeding edge driver, but it should work
[02:23] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: is that grub.cfg?
[02:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, you are right. Back it up by running this command inside the directory cp grub.cfg grub.cfg.old
[02:24] <ayam_jago> !help
[02:24] <airtonix> if i install ubuntu-netbook-remix on a netbook and then revert the desktop to traditional gnome mode (as ubuntu desktop uses) will i still retain the benefits of the optimisations towards an intel atom processor that the ubuntu-netbook-remix has ?
[02:24] <Caber> how to make sure your PC restarts every 24 hours?
[02:24] <orbisvicis> Caber: cronjob
[02:24] <orbisvicis> /bin/sh reboot etc
[02:24] <jolaren> Sol vind och vatten, höga berg och djupa haaav
[02:24] <jolaren> ww
[02:25] <jolaren> !se jolaren
[02:25] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: big header at the top of the file says don't edit this file... it's auto generated...
[02:25] <Caber> well, I want to make sure it does 24 hours after last start-up
[02:25] <orbisvicis> ok, so I know ubuntu used to use beagle, is that so now ?
[02:25] <ayam_jago> !id jolaren
[02:25] <Caber> ?
[02:25] <ayam_jago> !en jolaren
[02:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, it's safe because we backed up the file beforehand and you have a livecd.
[02:25] <jolaren> ayam_jago; didn't work ^^
[02:25] <ayam_jago> hehe
[02:25] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: THANKS for your help on this!!  I'll figure out the last bit on my own..I'm sure it's documented.. right I'll just edit for now.
[02:25] <overmacht> ayam_jago; tidak bisa dapat resolusi yang pas? hanya 800 x 600?
[02:25] <un214> how do I create a new global shortcut (kubuntu) ?
[02:25] <airtonix> orbisvicis, not by defualt it uses tracker now
[02:26] <orbisvicis> airtonix: ty
[02:26] <airtonix> orbisvicis, which i personally recommend you stick with
[02:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, if you need help, we're here for you.
[02:26] <orbisvicis> Caber: hm maybe at startup sleep 60*60*24 && reboot ?
[02:26] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: don't you think it would be cool if all these folders were under git, then you could just roll back rather than having all these backup files..
[02:26] <ayam_jago> overmacht : resolusi dapat menggunakan 1024x798 dan lainnya, hanya usplash error pada start up. dan berjalan pada low-graphic mode
[02:26] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: cluttering up the system.
[02:27] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: and have a history of what changed too.
[02:27] <orbisvicis> airtonix: actually not using ubuntu, but Im considering using either beagle/tracker/recoll and probably not (strigi/pinot) and wanted to know what ubuntu used
[02:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, You could always be silly and keep a svn repo of your files. It's sorta silly though.
[02:27] <kbfz> hello guys
[02:27] <Quirkly> hello, laptop screen brightness issue, and yet again, all the solutions on google involve stuff that doesn't seem to exist for me, lol
[02:27] <airtonix> orbisvicis, thanks for mentioning recoil, i've not heard of it
[02:28] <kbfz> why my screen shows "it can't support"?
[02:28] <overmacht> ayam_jago; oh, aku juga begitu. memakai intel gma 450, akhirnya aku downgrade ke ubuntu9.04. tidak apa biar tidak pake yang versi terakhir.
[02:29] <jefinc> is there a way to removing the requirement to authenticate everytime I mount a drive? (Karmic)
[02:29] <orbisvicis> Caber: that, or a cronjob that considers "uptime", and the new dcron >4 also has a @reboot crontab keyword
[02:29] <ayam_jago> overmacht : terimakasih atas informasinya :)
[02:29] <airtonix> jefinc, you mean apart from having it mounted by fstab ?
[02:30] <zetheroo> is this so?
[02:30] <zetheroo> Fedora uses i686 architecture thats why it's faster than ubuntu.
[02:30] <kbfz> why the screen shows "it can't support"?
[02:30] <andruk> does inotify send events when the kernel modifies a file (like /sys/devices/platform/hp-wmi/tablet)?
[02:31] <jefinc> airtonix: yes, I'd like to be able to click on it in "places" and have it mount at that time, without having to enter my password
[02:31] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: how do I get the windows option back in my boot menu now that it's finding linux?  Does supergrub fix that for me?  or do I have to do it manually?
[02:31] <overmacht> ayam_jago; kalau mau sabar, tunggu update nya. nanti-nanti juga di fixed sama developernya. bisa cepat bisa laaaammmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
[02:31] <zetheroo> anyone?
[02:32] <kbfz> anyone?
[02:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, That's a question for someone who is using grub2.
[02:32] <airtonix> jefinc, i think you want to look into modifying sudo so that your user account is exempt from authentication requirements for the use of the mount command only
[02:32] <zetheroo> Fedora uses i686 architecture thats why it's faster than ubuntu.
[02:32] <zetheroo> is this so?
[02:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> !anyone | zetheroo kbfz
[02:32] <jefinc> airtonix: ok, thanks for pointing me in a direction :)
[02:32] <ayam_jago> overmacht: saya hanya ingin menggunakan vitur efek grafik :D supaya lebih cantik tampilan destktop saya ^^
[02:32] <zetheroo> kbfz: I had already asked
[02:33] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: thanks for your help!!  I'm rockin and rollin now.
[02:33] <airtonix> jefinc, just so you don't go in the wrong directions : it does not involve re-compiling anything
[02:33] <jefinc> k
[02:33] <kbfz> zetheroo, i see
[02:33] <airtonix> jefinc, but it does require that your user account has permission to use sudo
[02:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, Feel free to PM me with questions.
[02:34] <chisel_> what is the terminal command to delete wine and all the apps? i tried sudo apt-get remove wine. When i re-installed wine, all the apps were still there.
[02:34] <Fauntix> ventrilo for ubuntu?
[02:34] <zetheroo> Fauntix: Mangler
[02:34] <Random832> chisel_; where did you put the apps?
[02:34] <overmacht> ayam_jago; motherboard dan nvidia tipe berapa?
[02:34] <Fauntix> and an IRC too?
[02:35] <zetheroo> Fauntix: works great ... though I could not get the text chat feature
[02:35] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: thanks for your help.  this is a really great resource, thanks to folks like you and the others that give so much back to the community of ubuntu users :-)
[02:35] <Random832> your C: drive is in ~/.wine/drive_c
[02:35] <bernhard> im currently working on a deb package and im quite lost with the rules file, i basically just need to extract the tarball to /opt and chmod some stuff
[02:35] <Random832> and the registry is in reg files in ~/.wine
[02:35] <ayam_jago> overmacht : saya menggunakan PcPartner dan nvidia fx5500
[02:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, it wasn't a big problem, I'm glad I could help.
[02:35] <ayam_jago> p4MB800 tipe mb nya kalau tidak salah ^^
[02:36] <chisel_> random832: isn't there just a terminal command to make things easy?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis>  chisel_  your wine program icons are defined somewhere sles i recall . removing the wine package does NOT affect the users .wine dir or settings in any way.
[02:36] <Random832> chisel_; rm
[02:36] <Fauntix> how do i get my tablet touch screen thing to work
[02:37] <chisel_> i'm not ubuntu saavy enough to know what you guys are saying.
[02:37]  * Random832 isn't sure what could be easier than rm
[02:37] <kbfz> zetheroo, upgrate to 9.10 will also have the problem?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> chisel_:  then i wouldent worry about it untill you learn more linux basics
[02:37] <Random832> chisel_; what are you trying to do? if you want to delete the files just delete them
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> chisel_:  or use the menu editor to remove the wine item icons
[02:37] <zetheroo> kbfz: problem?
[02:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis, can we get some music?
[02:37] <kbfz> zetheroo, yes
[02:37] <zetheroo> Fauntix: your iPad :P
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> SpaceGhostC2C:  Huh?
[02:38] <zetheroo> kbfz: what problem?
[02:38] <Fauntix> no zeth.... just a plain tablet laptop
[02:38] <kbfz> the screen shows "it cann't support the mode"
[02:39] <chisel_> i want to delete the programs in wine. when i try to go to drive C, it wont let me. so i figured i'd just delete wine. As to rm, what is that and how do i use it?
[02:39] <zetheroo> kbfzI never asked for help to a problem ... so dunno what you are referring to
[02:39] <kbfz> zetheroo, the screen shows "it can't support the mode"
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> chisel_:  removeing packages do NOT affect the users settings.. thats somthing to rember.
[02:40] <zetheroo> kbfz: is that my problem or yours?
[02:40] <nuvan> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop using the wubi installer, and it's not seeing my network adapters, wired (Broadcom BCM5784M) or wireless (Atheros AR928X).
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> chisel_:   the directory /home/username/.wine is where the wine stuff is saved to for the user..  however the menu icons i recall are defined by some OTHER config files also in the users home.
[02:40] <zetheroo> nuvan: fun chipsets ...
[02:40] <nuvan> ifconfig just spits out the loopback device
[02:40] <kbfz> zetheroo, I don't know
[02:40] <nuvan> zetheroo: worked fine when I had 9.04 installed a while back
[02:41] <zetheroo> nuvan: I believe you ... as I said "fun" chipsets ...
[02:41] <Fauntix> how do i get my gateway tablet laptop touch screen thing to work
[02:41] <zetheroo> Fauntix: when you find out post it somewhere :P
[02:41] <zetheroo> Fauntix: have you googled it/
[02:41] <zetheroo> ?
[02:41] <abx> Hello! Does anyone know where I can find an implementation of JBIG-2 or a related program that can employ JBIG-2?
[02:41] <rahduke> anyone know what to type into OSX connect to server dialog to connect to an SSH share folder?
[02:41] <Fauntix> no
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  You would have to find some sort of OS-X mount ssh server as a directory feature.      Or find a scp gui client for OS-X perhaps
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  perhaps ask in #os-x
[02:43] <rahduke> thanks doc W
[02:44] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: Digging into the grub stuff.. turns out there's a file to edit for grub2 in /etc/default (/etc/default/grub2)  where you can set GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true :-)
[02:44] <zetheroo> Fauntix: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evtouch  ???
[02:44] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, the uuid is a good thing brah. It's really specific about which hard drive and partition.
[02:45] <zetheroo> Fauntix: and then "Calibrate Touchscreen" applet in the System->Administration menu to get touchscreen working!
[02:45] <lyrae> how can i bind, say ctrl + to go to the next song
[02:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, the reason I had you use /dev/sda5 to boot was just to boot initially.
[02:45] <lyrae> my keyboard doesnt have multimedia buttons
[02:45] <zetheroo> Fauntix: after that you may have to log out and log back in ...
[02:45] <TomV_415> SpaceGhostC2C: wonder why I'm not getting the right uuid for my partitions.. what you say makes sense.
[02:45] <ubuntufriend> hey I cant connect to a bad new ubuntu 9.10 update system with vino server but and I can control it but it had insane lag where I am getting snapshots, I have to reconnect to see if what I clicked or typed in actually showed up...
[02:46] <ubuntufriend> are there any known bugs like this?
[02:46] <SpaceGhostC2C> TomV_415, use blkid. ask maco.
[02:46] <ubuntufriend> is there something other than vino I can use?
[02:46] <zetheroo> lyrae: Keyboard Shortcuts?
[02:47] <lyrae> zetheroo, let me try
[02:47] <jcapinc> hey I installed gnome-shell, and tried it, thought it was neat, but it changed some strange and subtle things about my system that are causing problems like: startup programs do not auto-start, I cannot mount other partitions that I could before because it will not ask for authentication, and various other small things
[02:47] <jcapinc> is there some service that gnome-shell messed with that I can fix?
[02:48] <chester_copperpo> anyone using eclipse with subclipse?
[02:48] <Fauntix> ty zeth
[02:48] <lyrae> zetheroo, thank you
[02:48] <Fauntix> i will try that as soon as my updater is done
[02:48] <zetheroo> lyrae: your welcome
[02:48] <Alan502> Can someone recommend a video editor that adds subtitles?
[02:48] <zetheroo> Fauntix: no worries
[02:49] <Fauntix> have any of you used a book called Unleashed for Ubuntu?
[02:49] <lyrae> zetheroo, well hold on
[02:49] <zetheroo> Alan502: hmmm ... I have been looking for that too
[02:49] <Fauntix> i mean Ubuntu Unleashed
[02:49] <Maletor> How do I scp a file from a remote host behind a firewall to a local computer i'm on now? I ssh'ed into my remote firewall then into my host, but I can't get the file from there to here. What do I do?
[02:49] <lyrae> zetheroo, it doesnt have next/prev shortcut. but i can add my own. so rythmbox's command for next song is "--next". so on the command box i put "rythmbox --next" but it doesnt work. any idea?
[02:50] <Alan502> zetheroo, yeah :) there are some video editors out there but i just want to make sure they do add subtitles before downloading them
[02:50] <ima> Anyone here got Quake Live working in Chrome?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> ima:  i had it working in Firefox.. not tried it in Chrome
[02:50] <gerrin> anyone know a way to run Mac OSX apps on ubuntu
[02:50] <Alan502> gerrin, not possible, at the moment
[02:51] <ima> Dr_Willis, ahh, I don't know where the .so files are supposed to go
[02:51] <zetheroo> lyrae: in Keyboard Shortcuts i have Next Track under the Sound section
[02:51] <gerrin> ok :(
[02:51] <Alan502> gerrin, you can run linux apps on MacOSX though
[02:51] <ima> Dr_Willis, chrome just downloads them in a .xpi archive
[02:51] <zetheroo> lyrae: by the way I am in System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[02:51] <gerrin> ok,  well that sucks
[02:52] <rww> ubuntufriend: there are a few alternative VNC servers, yeah. Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[02:52] <Alan502> gerrin, some MacOSX apps have it's version for linux though, or you can find a replacement
[02:52] <lyrae> zetheroo, haha wow. i totally missed that. guess i was too excited
[02:52] <lyrae> zetheroo, many thanks, again!
[02:52] <Maletor> How do I do SCP through a firewall? Please help!
[02:52] <Alan502> gerrin, any application you wanna run specifically?
[02:52] <zetheroo> Alan502: yeah ... in my searching i have not come across anything that does it as I would like ...
[02:52] <gerrin> Renewed Vision's  Pro Presenter 4
[02:53] <gerrin> its mac only
[02:53] <zetheroo> gerrin: is there only a MacOS version for that app?
[02:53] <nuvan> zetheroo: hrm... lspci -k shows them, and shows that the atheros adapter is being accessed by the ath9k driver, and the broadcom by the tg3 driver.
[02:53] <zealot> Maletor: open port 22 dumbass
[02:53] <gerrin> yep only mac
[02:53] <Maletor> zealot: port 22 is open dumbass
[02:53] <zetheroo> nuvan: hmm ... I too have Atheros and Broadcom
[02:54] <zealot> Maletor: well then i guess you're up shit creek
[02:54] <Guest77025> hi guys
[02:54] <gerrin> well looks like ill have to go buy a new mac book, well that sucks
[02:54] <zetheroo> nuvan: however its worked for me out of the box ...
[02:54] <zetheroo> gerrin: how about a VM?
[02:54] <gerrin> vm?
[02:54] <ChogyDan> [q] if I run the lucid kernel on karmic, what could possibly go wrong?  (I know it sounds funny that way, but seriously, anyone know)
[02:54] <Guest77025> hji guys
[02:54] <rww> Guest77025: hi!
[02:54] <zetheroo> gerrin: virtual machine ...
[02:55] <zetheroo> gerrin: run MacOS in a VM
[02:55] <gerrin> i could try that,  know of any?
[02:55] <rww> zealot: Watch your language, please
[02:55] <zetheroo> nuvan: you should see if something needs to be blacklisted or visa-versa
[02:55] <zetheroo> gerrin: Virtual Box
[02:55] <nuvan> zetheroo: where and how would I check that?
[02:56] <gerrin> know where i can find that?
[02:56] <zetheroo> nuvan: what are your chipsets again?
[02:56] <nuvan> zetheroo: wired (Broadcom BCM5784M) and wireless (Atheros AR928X)
[02:56] <zetheroo> ok
[02:57] <rich> can anyone help with installing wordlists correctly
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Of course teh legality of running OS-X in Virtualbox.. well.. :) lets say its not.
[02:57] <zetheroo> nuvan: please post the output of lspci -nn
[02:58] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: hehe ... yep
[02:58] <zetheroo> gerrin: its in the repos ... or you can download it from the web ... google it ... or get it from Synaptic
[02:59] <gerrin> i googled it, thanks
[02:59] <rww> ChogyDan: Your system might not boot. If you have bugs or problems, we might not be able to offer support. It's generally not a great idea.
[02:59] <nuvan> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002a] (rev01)
[03:00] <nuvan> 09:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:1698] (rev 10)
[03:00] <ChogyDan> rww: well, as long as I can fix it by just booting an old kernel, Im fine.  thanks!
[03:00] <rww> ChogyDan: yep, that should work :)
[03:01] <rww> ChogyDan: although you might want to make sure GRUB is set to show you a menu first. I don't think Karmic's does by default.
[03:01] <zedster> hi I have no TTYs (ie ctrl+alt+f1-f6) is just a blinking courser
[03:01] <ChogyDan> rww: ok, Im safe there.  I've never had the menu hidden on me, for whatever reason  :)
[03:01] <zedster> and my grub2 hangs, it use to wait a few seconds then go to the default
[03:01] <zetheroo> nuvan: ok ... do this: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic
[03:02] <rww> ChogyDan: alright. Good luck :)
[03:03] <root__> hi guys
[03:03] <arooni> how can i fix this on ubuntu: ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[03:03] <zetheroo> nuvan: should probably reboot or re-login after that is done
[03:03] <usser> root__, dont run as root :)
[03:03] <root__> heloooo
[03:04] <zetheroo>  root__: you have a question?
[03:04] <root__> heloooo
[03:04] <sovi3t> arooni, make sure ssh-server is installed and started
[03:04] <DaZ> running as a root is l33t.
[03:04] <rww> arooni: is sshd started? try "sudo service ssh start"
[03:04] <Jeruvy> arooni: your firewall is blocking the connection
[03:04] <arooni> ssh is installed
[03:04] <arooni> ubuntu's firewall?
[03:04] <rww> Jeruvy: unlikely, since it's localhost
[03:04] <tato_> has anyone messed with ubuntu tweak?
[03:04] <arooni> how do i fix?
[03:04] <root__> well
[03:05] <webbb82> hey i need some help i am trying to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu and when i put the install cd in and get to the partition part i dont get the option to install the two distros side by side, it was always there before but my only option is to earase and install the whole drive where did the option go?
[03:05] <DaZ> arooni: /etc/hosts.allow/deny?
[03:05] <root__> yes
[03:05] <DaZ> (allow/deny)*
[03:05] <Jeruvy> rww: not unlikely
[03:05] <zetheroo> nuvan: did you get my last messages?
[03:05] <jcapinc> installing Gnome-Shell Messed with my main installation! what do I do to fix it?
[03:05] <whatram> Has anyone experienced an invisible lock screen? I can type my password and unlock it but the dialog box doesn't come up.
[03:05] <zetheroo> jcapinc: un-mess it :P
[03:05] <nuvan> zetheroo: yep. I can't do that directly, as there is no internet on my laptop, so I'm trying to dig 'em up on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:05] <jcapinc> zetheroo, how?
[03:05] <jcapinc> it did strange little things
[03:05] <rww> Jeruvy: If ufw is managing loopback connections, that's a bug. It's not supposed to do that.
[03:06] <root__> what
[03:06] <jef91> Is there a way I could run a terminal command that would crawl and directory and all sub-directories and replace all instances of one word in a file name with another?
[03:06] <zetheroo> nuvan: oh right ... ok .. let me see about the ethernet ....
[03:06] <webbb82>  /msg NickServ identify  webbb82 biggie
[03:06] <jcapinc> It does not always ask for authentication to do anything, like mount a partition
[03:06] <root__> what
[03:06] <jcapinc> it does not start my startup software
[03:06] <zetheroo> nuvan: you don't have a wifi usb dongle around do you?
[03:06] <rww> webbb82: you just echoed your password to the channel. Change it, and use a server window for nickserv messages in the future.
[03:06] <nuvan> nope
[03:06] <zetheroo> shucks
[03:06] <root__> what
[03:07] <falbertp> halo everyone
[03:07] <webbb82> ya i just did
[03:07] <sovi3t> jef91, man find
[03:07] <rww> root__: Hello. Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[03:07] <arooni> DaZ, desktop-igloo ~: pastebinit /etc/hosts.allow http://pastebin.com/f4678d118desktop-igloo ~: pastebinit /etc/hosts.denyhttp://pastebin.com/f3e33e005
[03:07] <webbb82> hey i need some help i am trying to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu and when i put the install cd in and get to the partition part i dont get the option to install the two distros side by side, it was always there before but my only option is to earase and install the whole drive where did the option go?
[03:07] <root__> yes
[03:07] <root__> guys
[03:07] <rww> root__: please go ahead and ask it (on one line), instead of sending "what" to the channel, then :)
[03:08] <falbertp> hi I'm using latest netbook ubuntu version 9.10? have problem with a local phone modem type haier d1200p
[03:08] <nuvan> zetheroo: did you mean linux-backports-modules-karmic-generic?
[03:08] <Pelo> webbb82, what you get is an option to rezise an exsisting partiton to make room to install the new os
[03:08] <t7x> hi all. can anyone tell me if i can use wine on live session ubuntu loaded from CD with No HDD installed. wanna play broodwar :) got 2GB or Ram
[03:08] <root__> how do i  change my  text  color
[03:08] <jimisrvrox> hey folks when anybody has a minute to help I am having wifi issues : http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png
[03:08] <DaZ> arooni: well, it's something else.
[03:08] <falbertp> what I like to ask, is there any easy way (GUI) for ubuntu my installed version to use that modem?
[03:08] <Fauntix> @Zeth: What is the syntax for that touch screen thing
[03:09] <webbb82> Pelo:  always before it would say "install them side by side" but its not there anymore
[03:09] <rww> root__: on IRC?
[03:09] <jimisrvrox> nick125: know any good books or sites to learn stuff about linux/ubuntu?
[03:09] <jimisrvrox> hey folks when anybody has a minute to help I am having wifi issues : http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png
[03:09] <Pelo> t7x, you can but it 's probably not tonna be very fast
[03:09] <falbertp> because I'm newbie on linux
[03:09] <nuvan> zetheroo: because i've got a usb memory stick, so if I can download the .deb's, I'll install 'em that way.
[03:09] <root__> then
[03:09] <root__> rww  then what
[03:09] <zetheroo> nuvan: yeah ... sounds good
[03:09] <ayam_jago> how can i remove 2.6.31-16-generic kernell to 2.6.31-14-generic ?? some like downgrade??
[03:09] <t7x> Pelo, can you help me set it up ? i can use flash drive if its any help
[03:09] <rww> root__: no, I'm asking a question. Do you mean your text color on IRC?
[03:09] <Pelo> webbb82, they might have changed the wording,  worste case scenario you just manualy resize your existing partitons to make room
[03:09] <root__> yes
[03:09] <root__> my  text  what  i am  typing  now
[03:10] <arooni> DaZ, how do i fix?  could it be tomato
[03:10] <root__> i  cant  read it  myself
[03:10] <webbb82> Pelo:  i get nervouse man nually messin with my partitions
[03:10] <t7x> pelo, why wont be fast enough ? with  a RAM if its enough should be even faster than with a HDD
[03:10] <root__> how do  i change it
[03:10] <Pelo> t7x, sudo apt-get install wine ,  that will install wine,  winecfg for the basic config, no need to actualy do anytying just run it ,   after that just install your game
[03:10] <root__> rww
[03:10] <Fauntix> @Zeth: What is the syntax for that touch screen thing
[03:10] <zetheroo> nuvan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic
[03:10] <root__> u there
[03:10] <root__> rwww
[03:10] <rww> root__: You can't change the way other people read it. You can set the way you see it with Settings -> Preferences -> Colors
[03:11] <falbertp> I'm trying to add my CDMA phone modem to Broadband Internet tab, fill all required setting, done, but how to connect using it?? there in no DIAL or CONNECT button??? please
[03:11] <Random832> so anyone know what all this ata3 DRDY ERR crap i'm getting is?
[03:11] <DaZ> arooni: i don't even know what tomato is.
[03:11] <root__> yes  ok
[03:11] <greezmunkey> Who wanted to change filenames by crawling directories?
[03:11] <devrethman> what should I install so that PDFs will open in tabs in Firefox, rather than require downloading and a separate window?
[03:11] <Sonja> sleep mode on my msi wind netbook doesn't work on jaunty
[03:11] <rww> root__: please be patient in the future :)
[03:11] <DaZ> arooni: if it's not hosts file then it's either firewall or ssh daemon config.
[03:11] <Random832> http://pastebin.org/86097
[03:11] <Sonja> it sleeps but won't wake up :(
[03:11] <Pelo> webbb82, that's the proper attidute,  just reboot win7,  defrag a few times backup your important stuff , then boot back the live cd,  run gparted , resize , then run the installer and install on the empty space
[03:11] <Random832> i get that over and over and over
[03:11] <zetheroo> nuvan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-backports-modules-karmic
[03:11] <arooni> DaZ, ssh daemon is listeningon port 22.  and i dont know how to adjust ubuntu firewall
[03:11] <falbertp> hmmm looks like IRC is not the best place to ask anyway :) though it is faster if someone like to hear my plea for help
[03:11] <usser> falbertp, last time i tried it i used gnome-ppp. try that
[03:12] <root__> ok admin
[03:12] <DaZ> arooni: neither do i.
[03:12] <root__> i will be
[03:12] <Pelo> devrethman, there is a firefox plugin I think
[03:12] <t7x> Pelo, may i whisper you ?
[03:12] <zetheroo> nuvan: i don't know if this method will really work though .. there may be dependencies that you do not have ...
[03:12] <Pelo> t7x, talk tome  in the channel, I hate pm
[03:12] <falbertp> wow at last someone hear my crying for help
[03:12] <devrethman> Pelo: Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is, I was just wondering if anybody knew what it was offhand.
[03:12] <t7x> Pelo, E: Couldn't find package wine
[03:12] <Pelo> devrethman, just to a search for pdf in the FF extensiion page
[03:12] <nuvan> the package pages show deps. i'll just make sure I get 'em all, or go back for em.
[03:13] <root__> allrigtg
[03:13] <falbertp> usser # so I gotta search for gnome-pp then ^^
[03:13] <Fauntix> Zetheroo are you there
[03:13] <root__> ok
[03:13] <usser> falbertp, also unplug it plug back in run dmesg see if appropriate /dev/ nodes for your modem get created if they do, it should be a smooth ride, just run gnome-ppp select your modem device and connect
[03:13] <zedster> I've got no tty's, looking for solutions
[03:13] <usser> falbertp, try it
[03:13] <Pelo> t7x,  you might have to enable the extra repositories,   menu > system > admin > software sources ,    check all the boxes on the frist and third tab
[03:13] <tato_> t7u: try sudo aptitude wine install
[03:14] <ayam_jago> how can i remove 2.6.31-16-generic kernell to 2.6.31-14-generic ?? some like downgrade??
[03:14] <falbertp> actually I've done abit of search before, some people suggest using PON POFF, but it doesn't work I dunno why, there simply no reaction what soever
[03:14] <zedster>  who -a
[03:14] <zedster> zedster  + tty7         2010-02-03 21:11 06:03        1257 (:0)
[03:14] <zedster> zedster  + pts/0        2010-02-03 21:11   .          1690 (:0.0)
[03:14] <jimisrvrox> hey folks when anybody has a minute to help I am having wifi issues : http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png
[03:14] <falbertp> others suggest for WVDIAL, but it doesn't work either
[03:14] <webbb82> so if i shrink m y main partition and then run the installer it will find the unalocated disk space to install to?
[03:14] <arooni> i can't ssh into localhost even though the ssh package is installed (ubuntu 9.10),.  here are my hosts files.  desktop-igloo ~: pastebinit /etc/hosts.allow http://pastebin.com/f4678d118desktop-igloo ~: pastebinit /etc/hosts.denyhttp://pastebin.com/f3e33e005
[03:15] <Random832> jimisrvrox: http://old.nabble.com/0.7-not-working-with-linux-2.6.24-td15422455.html
[03:15] <rww> arooni: did you try "sudo service ssh start"?
[03:15] <falbertp> usser # well yes you are correct when I try to use dmesg it doesn't get recognized on usb tty0 or tty1 I think this is the problem
[03:15] <Random832> no idea how to fix it but maybe you'll get some inspiration there
[03:15] <arooni> rww,
[03:15] <arooni> yes
[03:15] <usser> falbertp, wvdial is a command line tool, gnome-ppp is a gui and somewhat easier to use.  pastebin your dmesg, after you plug in the phone
[03:16] <rww> arooni: And it didn't help? Can you pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config please?
[03:16] <t7x> Pelo, if i need to make more space for use in my memmory any idea how can i do that ???
[03:16] <t7x> Pelo, can you tell me how can i check right now what is the space available i got for use
[03:16] <falbertp> some suggest recompiling make xconfig to make the usb reconized but there is error when I do that :( oh my...
[03:17] <Pelo> t7x, I don'T know , either quesiton, sorry, frankly I can'T figure out why you'd want to go to so much trouble
[03:17] <falbertp> usser # unfortunately I didn't bring my linux netbook now :( so I can't test it, I'm chating using a window laptop in work :( argzzzz... maybe I should ask later when I'm at home?
[03:17] <usser> falbertp, eeh you probably dont want to recompile your kernel
[03:18] <arooni> rww, here it is: http://pastebin.com/ffa108dc
[03:18] <makaveli9> i have a raid1 setup with 2x1TB drives. sda1/2/3/4 got booted off the raid array. i added sda1/2/3 back in and they are fine. when i try adding sda4 back in, the system freezes up for a while and dmesg shows sdb unrecoverable i/o read error flor block 9114837. so the ready errors are for the drive that it's supposed to be syncing from. is there a way to skip over these bad blocks? if not, what else can i do at this point is there a way
[03:18] <zetheroo> Fauntix: yes
[03:18] <falbertp> usser # well you are correct I don't want to do that either, too scary to even hear it
[03:18] <DaZ> Port 24000
[03:18] <DaZ> \o/
[03:18] <rww> arooni: You configured sshd to listen on port 24000, not port 22.
[03:19] <rww> arooni: Either change that back to 22, or use ssh -p 24000
[03:19] <Fauntix> Zeth: what was that syntax for the touch screen?
[03:19] <devrethman> Are there seriously no packages that provide a firefox PDF plugin other than acroread?
[03:19] <falbertp> user # is there anyway I can do to fix USB attachment problem?
[03:19] <arooni> rww sorry you're right
[03:19] <rww> (and this is why you don't jump to the unlikely possibility that a firewall is misconfigured and filtering loopback, people ;P )
[03:19] <zetheroo> Fauntix:  this? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evtouch
[03:19] <webbb82> i have a 500 gb hard drive should i just split it in half for the dual boot?
[03:19] <Pelo> devrethman, do a search in synaptic but acroread is probably it
[03:19] <ayam_jago> hellooooooo ??? how can i remove my kernell 2.6.31-16-generic to be 2.6.31-14-generic
[03:19] <xangua> devrethman: mozplugger
[03:20] <usser> falbertp, apart from installing a newer kernel probably no.
[03:20] <zetheroo> Fauntix: and then "Calibrate Touchscreen" applet in the System->Administration menu to get touchscreen working!
[03:20] <rww> ayam_jago: are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[03:20] <Pelo> ayam_jago, go into synaptic,  do a searech for  2.6.31,    uninstall all the -16 pakcages,  install the similar -14 package, reboot
[03:20] <falbertp> usser # oh no :( so what should i do  to install new kernel?
[03:20] <jimisrvrox> Random832: so this is an error in the nm application itself
[03:20] <ayam_jago> rww : i think iam using 32
[03:20] <tato_> ayan_jago the best way is to download ubuntu tweak it does it easy
[03:21] <ayam_jago> Pelo : thanks
[03:21] <rww> ayam_jago: Do what Pelo said. If you can't get the -14 package, it's at http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/i386/linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic/download also
[03:21] <Random832> i don't know - i only skimmed it
[03:21] <zedster> my nvida drivers cannot write to xorg and some how that is why I do not have ttys
[03:21] <Pelo> g'night folks
[03:21] <rww> 'night
[03:21] <usser> falbertp, i wouldn't necessarily blame it on the kernel. I cant really say what it is since i havent even seen the log files
[03:21] <zedster> anyone encounter this before?
[03:22] <whatram> My lock dialog box is invisible! I can type the password and get back in but how can I get it to show up?
[03:22] <zetheroo> Fauntix: we should talk here :)
[03:23] <zetheroo> Fauntix: looks like you need to locate the type of touchscreen device you have
[03:23] <fireball> hey all, how do i make wine app run in 1680 x 1050 in full screen mode?
[03:23] <zetheroo> Fauntix: probably comes down to chipsets again
[03:23] <falbertp> usser # you are correct, ok I think I need to supply the log first... hmmm it is difficult though if the internet did not connected at home because of this problem LOL
[03:23] <t7x> pelo it started :) but kind of blocked :) guess need to free more mem
[03:23] <fireball> or. . . how do i keep my touch screen calibration when in wine fullscreen mode?
[03:23] <rww> fireball: run "winecfg" from a command-line. I believe there's an option for it in there (though I don't have wine installed, so I can't check)
[03:24] <usser> falbertp, yep
[03:24] <falbertp> I mean I'm thinking how can I connect to the internet and asking in this channel if the netbook itself can't connect to internet? LOL
[03:25] <iflema> ayam_jago it is most likely possible you could simply select the older version pre-boot in the grub menu.... it is possible to change the default kerenel to boot.
[03:25] <falbertp> well this gotta be a loooong time to fix then, because i need to bring the log file to office and connect to internet the other day and ask again ^^
[03:25] <fireball> rww: thanks, but there's no help there
[03:25] <ayam_jago> iflema :thanks
[03:26] <falbertp> anyway usser thanks for your help :)
[03:26] <falbertp> this channel is VERY USEFULL indeed
[03:26] <drbanzai> What's the package to setup a tftp server under ubuntu?  So I can netboot a laptop and install ubuntu?
[03:26] <falbertp> and VERY FAST
[03:27] <webbb82> ok so i just made my windows 7 partition half the size so now just run the install cd and it will create the partition out of the unalocated disk space???
[03:27] <fireball> How do i make stop WINE apps from losing touch screen calibration when in full screen mode?
[03:27] <falbertp> ok bye bye everyone gotta back to work
[03:29] <nuvan> zetheroo: got the packages installed, rebooted, still nothing.  how can I check that they're being properly used?
[03:30] <fireball> ok, been trying everywhere for a week, including here. WHERE CAN I GET HELP WITH TOUCH SCREEN CALIBRATION VS WINE FULLSCREEN MODE   ???    ???
[03:31] <dazzle> hi all, first time user
[03:31] <labarna> fireball: you want touch screen calibration in wine?
[03:31] <zetheroo> nuvan: how did you get the packages installed with the dependencies?
[03:32] <bob_> How can I find the command line to a program in  the KDE menu?    Specifically, I want the one for Kolourpaint, but  I want to be able to discover it for the future as well.
[03:32] <Fauntix> Zeth: ok zeth the driver i need for ubuntu is the gateway finepoint
[03:32] <fireball> labarna: no, I just lose it when the wine app goes full screen. Pretty sure it's to do with a resolution change somewhere, probably x. But that's the problem and it needs fixing, please. . .
[03:32] <labarna> bob_: can you edit the menu... right click the menu for instance?
[03:33] <labarna> fireball: I think you probably right about the resolution change.  The only way I could see working around that is matching your desktop resolution and configuring from there so that when wine starts it doesn't change the resolution.
[03:33] <zetheroo> Fauntix: interesting
[03:33] <nuvan> zetheroo: used the info on packages.ubuntu.org to make sure I had the proper dependencies downloaded before I put 'em on the usb stick.  Ended up installing linux-image-2.6.31-16generic, l-b-modules-2.6.31-16-generic, l-b-m-karmic-generic, and l-b-m-wireless-karmic-generic
[03:33] <bob_> labarna, if I right click the menu, I can add to, or remove from favorites.  no other options
[03:34] <shamike> can a bad ethernet card keep ubuntu from starting up?
[03:34] <fireball> labarna: is there a way i can make the wine app full screen in my x native resolution?
[03:34] <Fauntix> Zetheroo: any idea?
[03:34] <fireball> larbarna: emulate virtual desktop resolution through winecgf is not it :(
[03:35] <labarna> fireball: that all depends on the app, is it a game or an application?
[03:35] <zetheroo> nuvan: lets do some blacklist editing
[03:35] <fireball> larbarna: i reckon it could be done through regedit, but no idea how
[03:35] <devrethman> AFAIK wine can make things fullscreen if they ask to be. I don't know if it's possible to just make some random app take up your whole screen with no decorations.
[03:35] <fireball> larbarna: it's a dj app
[03:35] <devrethman> #winehq would probably know.
[03:36] <aidan_> Ubuntu 10.4 alpha1 is up for download on the ubuntu site but the links are broken, is there any other way i can get it
[03:36] <iflema> fireball do your callabration settings reset or ya cant calabrate to start..?
[03:36] <zetheroo> nuvan: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf
[03:36] <labarna> bob_: try this page... there's a section for editing the menu: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html
[03:37] <nuvan> zetheroo: it's currently blacklisting ath_pci
[03:37] <fireball> iflema: no, just not calibrated in full screen mode, fine un-maximised
[03:37] <labarna> fireball: yeah sorry I'm not entirely sure, wine is tricky with resolution.  best bet is to ask in a wine channel or on their mailing list
[03:37] <zetheroo> nuvan: comment that out
[03:38] <zetheroo> nuvan: put a # in front of ath_pci
[03:38] <nuvan> zetheroo: done
[03:38] <zetheroo> nuvan: save and reboot
[03:38] <fireball> derverman: thanks, i'll try that
[03:39] <nuvan> zetheroo: on the way!
[03:39] <zetheroo> nuvan: ok
[03:40] <nuvan> zetheroo: still nothing
[03:40] <zetheroo> nuvan: you rebooted already?
[03:41] <nuvan> yep
[03:41] <labarna> bob_: any luck editing the menu?
[03:42] <bob_> labarna, looking at the site you sent.  thanks.
[03:42] <Colloguy> I miss the pre-karmic battery applet, is there a close replacement?
[03:42] <Yvier6> hey guys, how can i install codecs for ffmpeg i've the medibuntu packet but i dont know which are they :S
[03:43] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok this is  kinda dumb question but here it goes   " I was looking for a good wysiwyg html editor for ubuntu and  nvu is what I have seen along with others that I have tried with no luck ( some are above me) now with that said nvu looks like its now known as kompozer which i will try only if it doesnt install a bunch of kde stuff with it cause I dont like kde much, so  will it pull down a bunch of kde stuff with it and do you all know of something I ha
[03:43] <L3dPlatedLinux> vent found?
[03:43] <nuvan> zetheroo: just rebooted again. added acpi=off to my kernel line, and now my wireless adapters are detected.
[03:43] <nuvan> s/wireless/network/
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> L3dPlatedLinux: KompoZer has nothing to do with KDE.
[03:44] <zetheroo> nuvan: awesome ..
[03:44] <labarna> Yvier6: you probably want the package "non-free-codecs" (see: http://packages.medibuntu.org/karmic/index.html)
[03:44] <Yvier6> labarna: 8.04
[03:44] <nuvan> zetheroo: kinda crappy to be booting a laptop with acpi disabled though.
[03:44] <fireball> how come my xorg settings are a little random on bootup? ie, uses different config files randomly?
[03:44] <nuvan> zetheroo: will be hell on the battery life
[03:44] <zetheroo> nuvan: try it once more without that option
[03:45] <nuvan> zetheroo: oh, and it's not actually seeing any wireless networks. just the adapters
[03:45] <labarna> Yvier6: "non-free-codecs" is availible for hardy as well
[03:45] <guillermo_> i installed python-kde4-docs but i couldn't run the program "pykdedocs"
[03:45] <guillermo_> in intrepid ibex
[03:45] <tomatoes7> how do i mount an iso file on ubuntu?
[03:45] <guillermo_> how could i run it ?
[03:45] <rww> ubottu: iso | tomatoes7
[03:45] <mtx_init> look up loopback devices
[03:45] <Yvier6> labarna: but my virtual server cant find the packages
[03:45] <zetheroo> nuvan: I would do a full shut down and reboot ... also make sure the wireless is enabled all the time in the BIOS
[03:46] <eon01> hello , Any one knwo a good tutorial : How to Install JADE on Linux ??
[03:46] <nuvan> zetheroo: rebooting now, and the wireless is full-time on in the bios
[03:46] <tomatoes7> thanks
[03:46] <labarna> L3dPlatedLinux: I think it's just pulling down qt files and maybe some kde extra stuff you won't end up running kde don't worry
[03:46] <labarna> Yvier6: did you add the medibuntu repository?
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> labarna: There are no Qt dependencies whatsoever.
[03:47] <zetheroo> nuvan: this will tell you if the module is loaded  ......... echo ath9k | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[03:47] <Yvier6> labarna: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> labarna, L3dPlatedLinux: It's a GTK app - look for yourself.
[03:47] <Yvier6> right?
[03:47] <labarna> tomatoes7: check out gmountiso http://www.ubuntugeek.com/easy-way-of-mountunmount-iso-images-in-ubuntu.html
[03:48] <webbb82> so lets me get this straight if i shrink my windows 7 partition   then run the ubuntu install cd  i will get a option to install to unalocated disk space?
[03:48] <labarna> tonyyarusso: sorry my mistake
[03:48] <sovi3t> webbb82, yes
[03:48] <labarna> Yvier6: can you apt-get install w32codecs?
[03:48] <webbb82> even if its unalocated?
[03:49] <webbb82> do i have to make the swap partition or will the ubuntu instaall cd take care of that
[03:49] <Yvier6> labarna: no ;(
[03:50] <labarna> Yvier6: have you run apt-get update?
[03:50] <sdubois> i'm trying to install libpng, but it is saying libpng12-dev: Depends: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.15~beta5-3) but 1.2.15~beta5-3ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[03:50] <lucky4linux> webbb82: it depends on the type of installation you choose
[03:50] <webbb82> lucky4linux:  how so?
[03:50] <guillermo_> i installed python-kde4-docs but i couldn't run the program "pykdedocs"
[03:50] <guillermo_> how could i run it ?
[03:50] <Yvier6> labarna: yes
[03:50] <sovi3t> webbb82, by default it should take care of swap and root formatting, or at least give some sane defaults
[03:51] <lucky4linux> webbb82: in the beginning, the installer will ask you to choose an installation type, how are you gonna install ? Via wubi ?
[03:51] <nuvan> zetheroo: booted normally, no network devices. ath9k is loaded and according to lspci associated with the wireless adapter.  however, lshw spits out *-network UNCLAIMED for both adapters
[03:51] <webbb82> oh im using a live install cd
[03:51] <Yvier6> labarna: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_hardy_free_binary-amd64_Packages)
[03:51] <Yvier6> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_hardy_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages)
[03:52] <lucky4linux> webbb82: ya but are you installing it from within windows or right frmo system boot up ?
[03:52] <zetheroo> nuvan:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309605
[03:52] <lucky4linux> webbb82:   http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing   see here
[03:53] <labarna> Yvier6: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin.com?
[03:53] <Yvier6> labarna: yesss
[03:53] <lucky4linux> webbb82 you will have very nice pics to illustrate the installation process here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[03:54] <Yvier6> labarna: http://pastie.org/private/t4pmqtnol5fexmubdv5kdq
[03:54] <Yvier6> labarna: hosteurope is my provider
[03:54] <webbb82> By default, the installer will give you the option to install Ubuntu side by side with whatever operating system is currently on your computer. You can choose that if you want to set up a dual-boot,   i dont get that option when i goto install
[03:56] <lucky4linux> webbb82: you mean that you dont see " Install them side by side" option ???
[03:56] <wickwire> \quit
[03:56] <webbb82> yes
[03:56] <Yvier6> labarna: and?
[03:57] <lucky4linux> webbb82: oops, ok ! reboot your sytem again and again boot your system from CD and in the UBuntu menu, select  "Check CD for defects "
[03:57] <Cyber_Akuma> Hey guys, I have a triple boot system that uses an older version of Ubuntu that still relied on grub1, if I reinstall windows7 (which would wipe grub I believe) then update ubuntu can I mak it install grub2?
[03:57] <lucky4linux> webbb82: which CD your have ? 8.10 or 9.04 or 9.10 ?
[03:58] <webbb82> 9.10
[03:58] <lucky4linux> webbb82: ok did you download it or did you get it from Canonical directly by post ?
[03:58] <linux-padawan> hey guys, anyone proficient with network file sharing?
[03:58] <webbb82> download
[03:58] <mkquist> Cyber_Akuma: you can upgrade it to grub 2
[03:59] <lucky4linux> webbb82: ok reboot and check it as i said before
[03:59] <Cyber_Akuma> great
[03:59] <lifestream> Does anyone what this Gnome-App-Install  traceback  mean?  Karmic      http://paste.ubuntu.com/368636/
[03:59] <webbb82> shouldnt i shrink my hard drive in half first?
[03:59] <mkquist> linux-padawan: what you trying to do?
[03:59] <lucky4linux> webbb82: no need, we are just checking the CD for defects now. Lets worry about installation and space later !
[03:59] <tomatoes7> how do i find out how many shells i am running
[03:59] <linux-padawan> mkquist: i have several computers, all connected via a router, and i want to share directories.. linux and windows machines
[04:00] <labarna> Yvier6: hmm ok try checking the file /etc/apt/source.list.d
[04:00] <usser> lifestream, do you have python-gst package installed?
[04:00] <webbb82> ok ill be back ill get back on when i log back in
[04:00] <linux-padawan> however the nautilus share function doesnt seem to work
[04:00] <lucky4linux> webbb82: ok
[04:00] <mkquist> linux-padawan: are you using shares-admin in terminal?
[04:01] <linux-padawan> no, was using the share option in nautilus. it worked once, now it wont.. not sure why.. really im open to any approach just want it working lol
[04:01] <Yvier6> labarna: but this is emptx
[04:02] <Yvier6> labarna: but this is empty
[04:02] <onetinsoldier> lifestream: i think you missing something to do with gstreamer or libgstreamer, but i'm not sure
[04:03] <labarna> Yvier6: any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?
[04:03] <lifestream> usser, onetinsoldier, I'm not sure, trying to find it on synaptic and packages.ubuntu.com
[04:03] <mkquist> linux-padawan: try typing shares-admin in a terminal window, then /etc/init.d/samba restart
[04:03] <mkquist> linux-padawan: after you set your shares of course
[04:03] <mkquist> linux-padawan: is working for me as we speak
[04:03] <Yvier6> labarna: empty
[04:03] <Yvier6> its a virtual server
[04:04] <mkquist> linux-padawan: did find on the new installs that i had to restart samba on boot. doesnt seem to be a problem anymore though
[04:04] <linux-padawan> interesting...
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> lifestream: i have no idea if the following package is your issue, but do you have this package installed? --> python-gst0.10
[04:04] <labarna> Yvier6: I'm not sure than... try deleting it from the sources.list file and rerunning the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[04:04] <Yvier6> labarna: done but nothing..
[04:05] <labarna> Yvier6: well you can always goto the medibuntu site and download the packages themselves you don't need the repository
[04:05] <lifestream> onetinsoldier,  I searched for python-gst in synaptic and it  isn't even shown in synaptic at all
[04:05] <labarna> Yvier6: http://packages.medibuntu.org/hardy/index.html
[04:05] <labarna> lifestream: python-gst0.10
[04:05] <onetinsoldier> lifestream: hmmm, are you running 9.10 Karmic?
[04:06] <nuvan> zetheroo: well, if I boot without ACPI, I can see the network adapters, and while the wireless still doesn't work, the wired does, so i'm bridging the connection from my desktop, and will run a full update of the system, see what that does for me.
[04:06] <lifestream> labarna, yes, it's not there at all
[04:06] <linux-padawan> hmmm.. now how do i navigate to it from another linux machine?
[04:06] <linux-padawan> the shared directory doesnt show up under the networking tab
[04:06] <lifestream> onetinsoldier, Yes :)   gnome-app-install was working for a long time, but I don't use it often enough to see which upgrade broke it, assuming one did
[04:06] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: just open network servers and it should show up
[04:06] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: if it doesnt, then refresh it a few times
[04:07] <linux-padawan> u mean the network section under nautilus?
[04:07] <replic8tor> I have a server install of ubuntu at home. How do I add an ip to like a firewall block list? I tried iptables but the command isnt found.
[04:07] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: like places, network servers
[04:07] <onetinsoldier> lifestream: roger. i don't think i really know how to help any further
[04:07] <linux-padawan> nothing
[04:07] <linux-padawan> thats the odd part
[04:07] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: same-same
[04:07] <labarna> lifestream: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python-gst&searchon=names&suite=all&section=main
[04:07] <linux-padawan> i had it working before
[04:08] <lifestream> onetinsoldier, I apreciate the help, I'll keep looking online :)
[04:08] <linux-padawan> not any longer tho
[04:08] <mkquist_> give it a go, works for me... had to reinstall samba once or twice when koala first came out, but works solid now
[04:09] <onetinsoldier> lifestream: ok, good luck :)
[04:09] <linux-padawan> im an idiot.. dang it, may have just figuredit out]
[04:09] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: what was it?
[04:09] <lifestream> labarna, "python-gst0.10 is already the newest version."  Grr grr
[04:11] <linux-padawan> neverming
[04:11] <linux-padawan> thought i hadnt started smbd on other puter
[04:11] <irkep> is it possible to merge connections in ubuntu?
[04:11] <linux-padawan> both have smbd running, or should at least
[04:11] <obscurant1st_> hi in ubuntu 9.10 i just installed apache 2.2, where is the default index.html stored?
[04:11] <irkep> like you can in windows
[04:11] <meganerd> obscurant1st_: /var/www
[04:11] <obscurant1st_> k thx.
[04:12] <meganerd> irkep: what do you mean, can you be more specific
[04:12] <linux-padawan> whats the dif between smbd and samba?
[04:12] <rww> linux-padawan: smbd is part of samba
[04:12] <james_> hello all
[04:12] <meganerd> linux-padawan: smbd is the name of the process, samba is the human friendly name
[04:12] <irkep> meganerd: merge a wireless connection and a wired connection to the same network
[04:12] <linux-padawan> well when i run samba start it says i need to install samba4, yet it takes the command samba...
[04:13] <meganerd> irkep: the word you are looking for is bridge
[04:13] <irkep> meganerd: what is a "bridge"?
[04:13] <meganerd> irkep: and yes it is not only possible, but reasonalby easy to do
[04:13] <james_> here's a random one... when you right click on a picture and choose "set as background", where does that picture get saved to?
[04:13] <Fauntix> ok wine doesnt work on 9.10
[04:13] <meganerd> irkep: look it up, but it sounds like what you want to do
[04:14] <pingfloyd> irkep: a glorified switch
[04:14] <james_> sorry, picture from the internet
[04:14] <linux-padawan> and when i click on the windows network icon under network it just says unable to mount
[04:14] <hunger__> anyone have HDMI audio working on karmic?  Nvidia card, TIA
[04:14] <pingfloyd> irkep: there's some minor differences
[04:14] <irkep> look what up meganerd? if i lookup the word "bridge" ill get a million unrelated pages before running into anything for ubuntu
[04:14] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: did you restart samba?
[04:15] <linux-padawan> only smbd will take but yes i ran smbd restart
[04:15] <linux-padawan> however when i type smbd status nthing shows up
[04:15] <rww> james_: I just tried it, looks like it ended up in "Firefox_wallpaper.png" in my home folder
[04:15] <linux-padawan> whatelse can i do to verify its running?
[04:15] <hunger__> oh, btw, Nvidia Geforce 8600m GT, was working in 8.x not sure why it was removed
[04:16] <pingfloyd> irkep: a bridge serves the same purpose as a switch, it breaks up collision domains
[04:16] <Quan-Time> hunger__: i have NV220GT M workin in 9.10 karmic x64 no probs
[04:16] <sovi3t> james, ~/Firefox_wallpaper.png assuming your using firefox
[04:16] <sloopy> pingfloyd, it does?
[04:16] <irkep> pingfloyd: i dont know what you're talking about
[04:16] <hunger__> quan, which driver?
[04:16] <pingfloyd> sloopy: yes
[04:16] <linux-padawan> mkquist: yup i did, how can i confirm its running, nothing comes up when i type smbd status
[04:16] <ouyes> i want to add  two shortcuts of display desktop and open home folder in xubuntu, i do not know the command name of the two ,who can tell me ?
[04:16] <sloopy> pingfloyd, never seen one of those...
[04:17] <Fauntix> Ok I really want to run Ubuntu but i need some programs to work that...well arent working
[04:17] <hunger__> i'm using the proprietary drivers (from nvidia's site) i've tried 185, 190 and  195 series...after 9.04 HDMI audio quit working on me
[04:17] <Santisnight> how do i forward a port?
[04:17] <Santisnight> through my router*
[04:17] <irkep> anyone?
[04:17] <sloopy> irkep, whats the question?
[04:17] <pingfloyd> sloopy: seen what?  A bridge?
[04:17] <Quan-Time> Santisnight: www.portforward.com prolly has a guide.. this is ubuntu help, NOT hardawre help
[04:17] <irkep> how do you merge connections, as you do in windows?
[04:17] <Santisnight> Quan-Time,  right, sorry
[04:17] <Santisnight> thanks though
[04:18] <sloopy> pingfloyd, yeah a bridge that seperates collision domains...
[04:18] <Quan-Time> Santisnight: np... if you get REALLY stuck, PM me and ill help
[04:18] <Quan-Time> or you can leave, whichever
[04:18] <pingfloyd> pingfloyd: bridges always have
[04:18] <obscurant1st> is there any way of running a webserver in ubuntu like dyndns do without using dyndns?
[04:18] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: intermesting... i get the same, but its working... hmmm
[04:18] <sloopy> irkep, using a bridge, i would guess you are trying to bridge a wired/wireless networks?
[04:18] <pingfloyd> sloopy: hubs don't though
[04:18] <linux-padawan> perhaps my router needs a reboot
[04:19] <linux-padawan> ill be back
[04:19] <sloopy> pingfloyd, maybe your thinking of a switch?
[04:19] <eon01> Hello anyone worked with JADE ????
[04:19] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: id try restarting networking instead
[04:19] <rumpsy> omg, time applet is not working properly!, even i installed ntp, and tried to set manually, but it automatically assigned to some time, :(
[04:19] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: first
[04:19] <pingfloyd> sloopy: no
[04:19] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: just my opinion
[04:19] <drbanzai> obscurant1st, Why do you not want to use dyndns?
[04:19] <irkep> pingfloyd, sloopy: I want to bridge my connections so when i switch between them my streaming media isnt interrupted
[04:19] <rww> rumpsy: if you have ntp installed, it'll automatically set the time. That's the whole point of ntp. If you want to set the time manually, remove it.
[04:20] <sacarlson> How can I get mysql to install on Ubuntu 9.1?  I tried 5.0 and 5.1 both got stuck in install.  When I tried to unistall I also had problems.  I now have them deleted.  what should I do to install a working mysql?
[04:20] <irkep> i want to *merge connections
[04:20] <zedster> I have no tty's running and my grub is messed up, anyone think they can help?
[04:20] <pingfloyd> irkep: merging is their misuse of the word
[04:20] <pingfloyd> irkep: when you do that in windows, it is acting like a bridge
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: where did you try to install them from?
[04:20] <irkep> sloopy: yes
[04:21] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso I used synaptic
[04:21] <irkep> where in ubuntu do you go to bridge 2 connections?
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: can you define "got stuck"?
[04:21] <rumpsy> rww: Yes, you right,  know that, but even after removal of ntp, i'm facing the same problem, it automatically assigning some default time
[04:21] <drbanzai> obscurant1st, You can run a webserver without a domain name...just use the IP address
[04:22] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso: well I didn't write it down but I can try again and tell you.
[04:22] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso should I just try install lamp?
[04:22] <irkep> this is kind of unrelated to my question, but, can you bridge connections to different networks?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: sure.  My guess is that you didn't expand the little window that asks you for sql root password.
[04:22] <sloopy> irkep, never done it 'client side' so to speak, but i would guess you would use bridge utilities
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: from tasksel?  You could, if you want it.
[04:22] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso no I got that far
[04:22] <pingfloyd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[04:22] <sloopy> irkep, see -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[04:23] <pingfloyd> old article, but it is the general idea
[04:23] <wolter> ping
[04:23] <sacarlson> tonnyyarusso it was past the password question when it tried to start the demon
[04:23] <hunger__> anyone? HDMI audio on an Nvidia card in karmic?
[04:23] <irkep> pingfloyd: do you know how to bridhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridgehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[04:23] <rumpsy> rww: ?
[04:23] <rww> rumpsy: does it only do it after you turn your computer off and back on?
[04:23] <zedster> I have no ttys terminals, need help
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: huh, that's odd.  Maybe you should try from the command line so you can see any error messages that crop up.
[04:24] <linux-padawan> nothing
[04:24] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso: I also tried tasksel but now I have a clean start so I'll try tasksel again
[04:24] <linux-padawan> mkquist: nothing ... any other thoughts
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> hunger__: I don't think anything supports that yet.  If it did, it would be the driver from nvidia.
[04:24] <hunger__> tony, used to work in 8.x
[04:24] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: restart networking?
[04:24] <rumpsy> rww: yes
[04:24] <linux-padawan> how?
[04:24] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:24] <pingfloyd> irkep: why not just make your life easy and install a switch?
[04:25] <linux-padawan> networking restart
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> hunger__: 8.04 or 8.10?  You should always specify.  (I don't know the answer, but if someone else does they'll need to know which.)
[04:25] <linux-padawan> command notfound
[04:25] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso yes this time i'm using the command line with tasksel
[04:25] <hunger__> i read in some posts hdmi audio on nvidia was removed in 9.04+ and the fix didn't make it into 9.10, but others have said they gotten it to work, just worked no idea how though
[04:25] <Pupeno> How do I add a file type to ubuntu so that they are open with certain application?
[04:25] <pingfloyd> switches are so cheap these days, hence why nobody bothers bridging anymore
[04:25] <hunger__> tony, both 8.04 and 8.10
[04:25] <rumpsy> rww: what might be the problem?
[04:26] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ?
[04:26] <rww> rumpsy: after you remove power from the computer? if so, that sounds more like a problem with the clock battery
[04:26] <hunger__> tony, actually 8.10 for sure, 8.04 my memories a bit sketchy
[04:26] <XPANSiVE> I tryed to install ubuntu on a old laptop today but it hangs at the red-ish backdrop with a mouse pointer. Anyone know what the problem could be?
[04:26] <linux-padawan> nah its the networking part it doesnt like
[04:26] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: what do you mean?
[04:27] <rumpsy> rww: Okay, i'll check that, and back to you
[04:27] <mrpink57> XPANSiVE: how old is said laptop?  Ubuntu isnt exactly skinny as she used to be.
[04:27] <sovi3t> Pupeno, right click the file you want to run, click properties, go to the open with tab.
[04:27] <linux-padawan> says networking command not found
[04:27] <ubuntu> hm. I'm wondering if livecd can write to removeable disk?
[04:27] <XPANSiVE> 800 mhz, 192 mb of ram
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: yes
[04:27] <pingfloyd> linux-padawan: you have to use the full path
[04:27] <Pupeno> sovi3t: it says it'll asociate K3B with blah.k3b and other Zip files. I want K3B only for .k3b, not other zip files.
[04:27] <linux-padawan> i did
[04:28] <mrpink57> XPANSiVE: did you install a full blown ubuntu or something like xubuntu?
[04:28] <pingfloyd> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:28] <XPANSiVE> full blown
[04:28] <littlebear91> mrpink57, can xubuntu livecd write to removeable HDD?
[04:28] <XPANSiVE> it hangs while installing
[04:28] <linux-padawan> ahh.. i was in the directory.. so i didnt
[04:28] <mrpink57> XPANSiVE: you might want to try something smaller like Xubuntu or Crunchbang
[04:28] <XPANSiVE> kk
[04:28] <pingfloyd> linux-padawan: you can't do it that way
[04:29] <linux-padawan> now restarting smbd then
[04:29] <pingfloyd> linux-padawan: if you're in the directory you would do sudo ./networking restart
[04:29] <linux-padawan> again the whole path?
[04:29] <mrpink57> XPANSiVE: i have a 1.7ghz 512mb laptop and use Arch which I keep slim with a tiling wm
[04:29] <pingfloyd> linux-padawan: you have to have the ./ part unless it's in your PATH variable
[04:29] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso: after running tasksel and selecting lamp-server I saw no errors and looks like mysql is installed when I checked in synaptic but I see no demon running
[04:29] <zedster> can anyone help me? the lack of tty1-6 is driving me nutz
[04:29] <TomV_415> long day for ubuntu problems.. for me.  Just got things working, then bam something odd happend.. Soon after getting my nvida-settings working, my windows all got messed up...
[04:29] <mrpink57> XPANSiVE: does it hang forever or does it eventually just go to a command line?
[04:30] <pingfloyd> linux-padawan: if you're in the directory you can't just type   networking  you have to type ./networking
[04:30] <TomV_415> For example the terminal window just shows up as a white box.. no menu, no text, nothing.
[04:30] <XPANSiVE> i left it for 4 hours
[04:30] <linux-padawan> hmmm got it working now.. thanks!
[04:30] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: sharing works now?
[04:30] <pingfloyd> linux-padawan: full path will work regardless of where you are
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: what happens if you start it manually?  'sudo service mysqld start'
[04:30] <TomV_415> I can move it around with alt-F7, but that it.
[04:30] <mrpink57> XPANSiVE: i am sure if you reinstall it will work but Ubuntu is pretty chunky for that laptop still, its going ot struggle.
[04:31] <linux-padawan> right i know the full path part, was trying to take a short cut
[04:31] <linux-padawan> how about starting smbd tho
[04:31] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart should work...
[04:31] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso unrecognized service
[04:31] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: or stop/start too...
[04:31] <XPANSiVE> i'll try some other distro
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: try mysql instead of mysqld - I can't remember
[04:32] <XPANSiVE> or maybe just a terminal ;D
[04:32] <ayotte> salut
[04:33] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso: when I deleted it I also deleted the files with mysql in /etc/init.d  maybe those were still needed?
[04:33] <rumpsy> ayotte: salut
[04:33] <ayotte> on parles-tu en français ici ?
[04:33] <microhaxo> fyi, tint2 sucks as the bottom window holder panel. Buggy
[04:33] <zedster> anyone else on a dell d830?
[04:33] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: uh, apt should have replaced them when you reinstalled
[04:33] <pingfloyd> XPANSiVE: you'll probably want a lighter desktop environment
[04:33] <microhaxo> (when replacing the default gnome one)
[04:33] <zedster> or a quadro 140m system at least
[04:33] <rumpsy> ayotte: What type of language is that
[04:33] <linux-padawan> ok then for security reasons i can stop the share by stopping smbd?
[04:33] <TheEngineer> hey. i just got ubuntu, and am running it on VMware Fusion. i'm trying to install VMware tools on it, but i can't seem to get it to work. anybody know how to get it to work?
[04:33] <TomV_415> any suggestions about why my window tiles and screens disapeared?
[04:33] <rww> ubottu: fr | ayotte
[04:33] <rumpsy> !es
[04:34] <Neverwill> how do you get it so i can share files with a Windows network?
[04:34] <rww> rumpsy: it's French ;P
[04:34] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso: nothing with the word  ls /etc/init.d/*my*  nothing there
[04:34] <rumpsy> lol
[04:34] <TomV_415> just got back my windows..
[04:35] <Neverwill> i wana just network the two together so i dont have to burn cd's :/
[04:35] <TomV_415> had to do with 'visual effects'
[04:35] <hunger__> neverwill, samba
[04:35] <hunger__> though, ftp server i think is more stable
[04:35] <poliwangi> banyuwangi
[04:36] <linux-padawan> ftp server?
[04:36] <sacarlson> tonnyyarusso there is a file /usr/bin/mysql but when I run that I get error 2002 can't connect to local mysql server
[04:36] <linux-padawan> u mean in lieu of samba for file sharing?
[04:36] <rww> ubottu: id | poliwangi
[04:36] <Neverwill> hmm, well I dont have my own ftp, but i am going to look into that Samba
[04:36] <hunger__> linux, yes'm
[04:36] <rumpsy> rww: now what lang is that?
[04:36] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: is it still not working?
[04:36] <hunger__> neverwill, also, nfs is better than samba too
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: did you install the mysql server or just the client?
[04:36] <linux-padawan> oh no it is working perfectly now thanks
[04:37] <Neverwill> hmmm
[04:37] <rww> rumpsy: Indonesian, though I cheated and used an IP lookup for that one.
[04:37] <Neverwill> <---new to linux
[04:37] <linux-padawan> so i just stop the share by stopping smbd
[04:37] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso I installed lamp
[04:37] <hunger__> neverwill, take a look at nfs first, i believe nfs is more stable than samba
[04:37] <hunger__> neverwill hehe no prob
[04:37] <sloopy> hunger__, only on a secure local network is nfs better
[04:37] <Neverwill> okay :)
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> sacarlson: well, something's still messed up from before.  Try doing an install --reinstall of the server package
[04:37] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso I just ran mysqld-safe and that brings up something
[04:37] <BLCK_MN> hello
[04:37] <BLCK_MN> black man here
[04:37] <mkquist_> linux-padawan: or just open the shares-admin and remove it..
[04:38] <sacarlson> tonyyarusso now I see a mysqld running
[04:38] <rumpsy> BLCK_MN: why?
[04:38] <hunger__> sloopy, really? didn't know that interesting
[04:38] <hunger__> neverwill: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[04:38] <MTec007> Neverwill: you can set up a ftp server locally if you dont want to fiddle with samba
[04:38] <linux-padawan> that is way cool
[04:38] <rww> BLCK_MN: Hello. Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[04:38] <BLCK_MN> yes
[04:38] <zedster> anyone? my ttys are missing and my video drivers cannot write to xorg
[04:38] <BLCK_MN> i am currently trying to install ORT-8a on Ubuntu version 3.5
[04:38] <BLCK_MN> i am getting a driver loopback error
[04:38] <BLCK_MN> what do i do
[04:38] <hunger__> neverwill, if you ever run into weird issues with not being able to connect bounce smbd on your linux box, usually helps alot
[04:38] <Neverwill> I may have to do that FTP server thing, i've used FTP before.
[04:38] <sloopy> hunger__, nfs has simple security is easy to hack with MIM attacks
[04:39] <hunger__> sloopy, i see, will take note of that
[04:39] <rww> bazhang: thanks
[04:39] <pingfloyd> yeah, nfs was never meant for use across untrustworthy networks
[04:39] <MTec007> Neverwill: samba is more of a solution than ftp but i never had luck with samba
[04:39] <hunger__> neverwill, yeah i think ftp is easier, or at least less frustrating, but samba is a better solution overall
[04:39] <sacarlson> ﻿tonyyarusso ok will do but I think it's working now I would just have to bring it up manualy
[04:40] <zedster> bazhang: you around?
[04:40] <Neverwill> alright thanks guys
[04:40] <hunger__> neverwill did you get that link i sent?
[04:40] <zealot> bazhang: what was that for?
[04:40] <mkquist> cantg agree, have no problems with samba at all
[04:40] <mkquist> cant*
[04:40] <Alexandra> Hi, is there a way to block spam messages in Empathy?
[04:40] <zealot> Alexandra: switch to Apathy
[04:40] <Neverwill> yes indeed
[04:41] <Alexandra> zealot: Ok, never tried, will do so
[04:41] <Alexandra> Thanks
[04:41] <rumpsy> BLCK_MN: what is that software all about?
[04:41] <sloopy> Neverwill, sharing using samba should be as simple as right click on the folder and setup from there...
[04:41] <rww> Alexandra: zealot was making a (bad) joke
[04:41] <zealot> rumpsy: he is banned
[04:41] <sloopy> Neverwill, using the Sharing options...
[04:41] <Neverwill> sloopy: alright thanks dude.
[04:42] <linux-padawan> so how big have u guys seen a root fs get?
[04:42] <rumpsy> BLCK_MN: but his name is still here, somebody kick this nick
[04:42] <Neverwill> did the admin-shares command Mkquist told meh about.
[04:42] <SaEeDIRHA> hi, when i have two directory in my path and in those directories there are two files with same name , but different applications , how can i know which one is that i am executing ?
[04:42] <rww> rumpsy: He was quieted, not banned.
[04:42] <rumpsy> oh, okay
[04:42] <rww> SaEeDIRHA: the one in the directory that's first in the path gets executed
[04:43] <Alexandra> rww: Well, I realised
[04:43] <Alexandra> ;)
[04:43] <ULTRASWIPOVER> HELLO
[04:43] <Neverwill> meeehhh ram = fail in this machine. uber slow
[04:43] <rww> Alexandra: I can't seem to find a way to block people on Empathy, actually. You might want to try Pidgin, I know it can.
[04:43] <xlene> hi im having problems installing hardy on my ipadz any help plz?
[04:43] <rww> Alexandra: or I might just not be looking hard enough. I'm not too good at empathy :(
[04:44] <linux-padawan> how big u guys seen / fs get?  i have a 12 gig partition for it but only using like 33 megs lol
[04:44] <linux-padawan> 300*
[04:44] <pingfloyd> so few irc clients have decent tab completion
[04:44] <rww> xlene: Please don't troll in here.
[04:44] <xlene> whats trolling?
[04:44] <xlene> sry im new to irc
[04:44] <Alexandra> rww: Ok, thanks ... and hey, guess what this is not a bad joke ;)
[04:44] <rww> linux-padawan: 10GB. Of course, that's the size limit of my root partitions, so...
[04:44] <SaEeDIRHA> rww: thankx alot :)
[04:44] <Anarki2004> got myself into a pickle here
[04:45] <sloopy> linux-padawan, mine has been in the 350-400GiB range, but then my /home was on it too then...
[04:45] <rww> linux-padawan: mine generally sit at or under 5GB. I have /home on a separate partition.
[04:45] <linux-padawan> see i have a pretty specific partition scheme with /var, /tmp and /home all seperate
[04:45] <Yvier6> Is there a tutorial available for installing apache solr on ubuntu 8.04?
[04:46] <Neverwill> So, is this room like an entire chat to get help with anything? or just mainly Ubuntu support since its an Ubuntu channel
[04:46] <Neverwill> cause i have a few programming questios
[04:46] <sloopy> Neverwill, ubuntu only...
[04:46] <RiverRat> Ubuntu.  There is a #hardware channel that is more general.
[04:46] <rww> Neverwill: Ubuntu support only. #ubuntu-offtopic has other discussions, and some programming languages have their own channel.
[04:46] <rww> Neverwill: which language?
[04:46] <sloopy> Neverwill, there are other channels for specific languages...
[04:47] <Neverwill> how do I get to see the list of rooms?
[04:47] <Neverwill> rww: mainly Python, just starting out :/
[04:47] <rww> Neverwill: /msg alis help. Alis is a service bot for searching for channels. Some people will recommend /list, which is a bad idea.
[04:47] <rww> Neverwill: I think #python exists.
[04:47] <zedster> still having issues, I do not have a tty1-6, its driving me nutz
[04:47] <sloopy> Neverwill, the list is dangerous to show... often crashes clients due to size, and there is a #python channel
[04:48] <Neverwill> ahh, I see. need to figure out the ident thing. been sooo long since i've been on IRC
[04:48] <RiverRat> Neverwill: #Python
[04:48] <zedster> anyone have any ideas on how to get the tty's working?
[04:48] <rww> Neverwill: ident thing? Is it telling you that you need to be registered to join?
[04:49] <Neverwill> * #python :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[04:49] <rww> ubottu: register | Neverwill
[04:49] <Neverwill> <3
[04:49] <linux-padawan> thanks for ur help guys.  good night
[04:49] <Anarki2004> what is the command line i need to install an irc client from the terminal window? i am using "sudo apt-get install xchat" but that doesn't work. furthermore, i can't get the software sources app to open i think because i'm booted from live.
[04:49] <gdbc> jsj
[04:50] <rww> Anarki2004: That should install Xchat. What "doesn't work" about it?
[04:50] <andrewsd> hey all
[04:50] <RiverRat> I have a problem when typing in passwords.  The keyboard doesn't work right on my laptop.  Logging in or using gnome-keyring.  Any ideas on which package I should re-install to get that working?
[04:50] <andrewsd> anybody experienced thunderbird 3.0 100% cpu lock-up on quit?
[04:50] <Anarki2004> e: couldn't find package
[04:50] <rww> Anarki2004: do "sudo apt-get update" first
[04:51] <Anarki2004> still a nogo
[04:51] <RiverRat> Doesn't he need to reboot to the system instead of the live CD first?
[04:51] <Anarki2004> i may have seriously botched my installation of ubuntu
[04:51] <andrewsd> Anybody here using thunderbird getting 100% CPU usage freezing on exit?
[04:51] <zedster> buller? anyone? I have no virtual terminals running
[04:52] <Anarki2004> failing is my real problem
[04:52] <zedster> andrewsd: have you ran it in safe mode at least once?
[04:52] <xlene> OMG I CANT STOP TYPING IN COLORS
[04:52] <rww> Anarki2004: copy the entire output of "sudo apt-get update" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link the page it creates here.
[04:52] <rww> xlene: this channel blocks colors.
[04:52] <neverwill> lawl
[04:52] <Anarki2004> yeah, thing is i'm using my phone right now
[04:53] <Rubby> Hey all, quick question, is there a command that you can hit that will list system specs? Ram, processor, that sort of fun
[04:53] <rww> Anarki2004: ah, okay. Do you see "universe" somewhere in the output?
[04:53] <andrewsd> zedster: trying now
[04:53] <xlene> well why cant i stop the colors one of you guys have hacked me havent you
[04:53] <Anarki2004> because i have a different, more complex problem...
[04:53] <rww> Rubby: "lshw" has way more than you want to know :)
[04:53] <mrpink57> who had the tty problem?
[04:54] <Rubby> Thanks kindly Rww
[04:54] <emes> i frequently have issues with the adobe pdf plugin in firefox where i have to restart firefox to get it to work. how can i fix this? or what alternatives are there?
[04:54] <neverwill> Verified :D
[04:54] <zedster> mrpink57: me
[04:54] <mrpink57> zedster: have you checked your inttab?
[04:54] <Anarki2004> no universe
[04:54] <zedster> mrpink57: no, what should I look for?
[04:54] <rww> Anarki2004: that's why it's not finding it, then.
[04:55] <andrewsd> zedster: Hmm, not sure if it made a difference - perhaps?
[04:55] <mrpink57> zedster: near the bottom you should see your tty's its an obvious
[04:55] <rww> Anarki2004: Try installing "xchat-gnome" instead. It's rather annoying, but it's in main so you should have it.
[04:55] <andrewsd> zedster: I'm curious... have you heard reports of the safe mode fixing 100% cpu issues on exit (I don't use plugins btw)
[04:55] <Anarki2004> ok
[04:55] <mrpink57> zedster: basically it should show telling tty to run in runlevels
[04:56] <Anarki2004> i think that did it
[04:56] <zedster> andrewsd: no, just normally if the problem doesn't occur in safe mode it is diagnostically relevant
[04:56] <zedster> mrpink57: how do I access it?
[04:56] <mrpink57> sudo gedit /etc/inittab
[04:57] <mrpink57> zedster: don't go monking around in there too much, just look for your tty
[04:57] <DrkShadow> what can I play mp3's with? Amarok takes too much space for my poor netbook, tomem is installed.. but.. huh? I don't know where. Is there anything with at least a simple playlist that I can use? I'm about to just use mpg123.
[04:57] <rww> mrpink57: as a general rule, we prefer to recommend gksudo over sudo for graphical commands
[04:57] <Anarki2004> ahhhh
[04:57] <mrpink57> rww: ok I use Arch so it's all different
[04:57] <Anarki2004> a real keyboard :-D
[04:57] <Anarki2004> now onto my bigger problem: GRUB
[04:58] <Anarki2004> or do I need to go to a grub support chan for that
[04:58] <mneptok> mrpink57: you should still use gksu instead of sudo for GTK apps in Arch
[04:58] <mrpink57> DrkShadow: see if you can install cmus its written in C and easy to use all CLI though
[04:58] <rww> Anarki2004: You can ask here. I'm not very good with GRUB, but someone else might know.
[04:58] <zedster> mrpink57: I don;t have any  /etc/inttab file
[04:58] <rww> zedster: it's inittab, not inttab
[04:58] <Anarki2004> ok then
[04:59] <Anarki2004> got to figure out how to word all this
[04:59] <mneptok> DrkShadow: try Audacious
[04:59] <sherri> hi
[04:59] <zedster> rww: still nothing
[04:59] <mrpink57> mneptok: gksudo is not a command for me, I use dwm.
[04:59] <sherri> any one here
[04:59] <rww> sherri: hi!
[04:59] <mrpink57> !ask
[04:59] <sherri> hi
[05:00] <rumpsy> sherri: Anyone!, what you want from anyone?
[05:00] <mrpink57> !give sherri ask
[05:00] <rww> zedster: ah. I've got no idea, just happened to know that file name :)
[05:00] <sherri> what is this that i am in right now
[05:00] <mrpink57> zedster: where you able to open your inittab?
[05:00] <zedster> mrpink57: I think inittab is no longer used
[05:00] <rww> sherri: the technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux
[05:00] <zedster> mrpink57: no
[05:00] <mneptok> mrpink57: easy on the !ask trigger, please
[05:01] <rww> mrpink57: the syntax for sending a factoid to a user is "!factoid | user" to do it in-channel, or "!factoid > user" to send a PM, btw.
[05:01] <sherri> this is not a chat room im looking for chat rooms on ubuntu now
[05:01] <Anarki2004> hmm...well to put it simply grub goes into "grub rescue" mode when i try to boot
[05:01] <mneptok> sherri: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:02] <sherri> ok ty
[05:02] <mrpink57> zedster: apparently ubuntu does not use a inittab they use what is called upstart and its in /etc/event.d/rc-default
[05:02] <zedster> mrpink57: upstart replaced inittab
[05:02] <zedster> lol
[05:02] <mrpink57> zedster: however I do not know if the file follows the same setup as a standard inittab
[05:03] <sherri> can i do it from here or do i got to sign out and then sign back in
[05:03] <mkquist_> sherri: just clik on it
[05:03] <rww> sherri: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic in the same place you're typing messages
[05:03] <rumpsy> sherri: click this word, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:03] <bazhang> sherri, /join #channelname
[05:04] <rww> ubottu: away > chibi_sleep
[05:04] <zedster> mrpink57: still not finding it
[05:05] <mrpink57> zedster: there is nothing under what I gave /etc/event.d/rc-default?
[05:05] <mrb427>  hey all, would anyone please save my life and tell me whats wrong with my if loop? http://codepad.org/a1ef6XFk
[05:05] <mrb427>  for some reason best1 always equals 102
[05:05] <neverwill> Anyone: i did the Share-admin command in terminal> downloaded and installed packages> now it just repeats. Said it was done installing..
[05:05] <zedster> mrpink57: no, no event.d directory
[05:06] <mrpink57> zedster: try locate rc-default
[05:06] <rww> mrpink57: which language?
[05:06] <rww> mrpink57: sorry, mistab
[05:06] <rww> mrb427: which language is that?
[05:06] <zedster> mrpink57: nothing
[05:07] <mrpink57> zedster: either it has been chagned or you do not have something you need.  this is where I give you some money for gas and we go our seperate ways.
[05:07] <zedster> mrpink57: thanks for the help
[05:07] <sovi3t> zedster, ttys are inited in /etc/init/tty[1-6].conf i think
[05:07] <zedster> sovi3t: they are there
[05:07] <zedster> they just don't run
[05:07] <mrpink57> i want my gas money back...
[05:07] <emes> i frequently have issues with the adobe pdf plugin in firefox where i have to restart firefox to get it to work. how can i fix this? or what alternatives are there?
[05:07] <zedster> when I click on the screen I get a blinking courser
[05:08]  * zedster gives mrpink57 his money and copy of reservoir dogs back 
[05:08] <sc_woes> can someone help me install pygtk or otherwise fix the software center so it will work again?
[05:08] <mrpink57> maybe pastebin the file that may help
[05:08] <sovi3t> zedster, i'm assuming that x starts?
[05:08] <ouyes> i want to add  two shortcuts of display desktop and open home folder (also lock screen ctrl+alt+L,)in xubuntu, i do not know the command name of the two ,who can tell me ?
[05:09] <zedster> sovi3t: yes
[05:09] <sc_woes> my comp crashed while updating pygtk and now software center won't load
[05:09] <sovi3t> zedster, i think i've had that issue before.  one sec
[05:10] <unixalot> emes: Have you tried using foxit reader for firefox??
[05:11] <emes> unixalot: is that in the ubuntu repositories?
[05:11] <unixalot> emes: no its a addon for firefox, works well and is fast
[05:11] <sc_woes> i like it
[05:12] <novemberhascome2> I have a hard drive that isn't showing in neither Windows nor Linux though lsusb changes when I plug it in. Any suggestions?
[05:12] <sc_woes> course its starting to bloat too
[05:12] <sc_woes> hey ubuntuologist
[05:12] <zedster> novemberhascome2: does it show up in mount or if you run something like gparted?
[05:12] <sc_woes> are you ologist enough to help me reinstall software_center?
[05:13] <novemberhascome2> zedster: It doesn't show in /dev.
[05:13] <EliasAmaral> sc_woes, there is a command to fix most issues.. hmmm.. what about trying sudo apt-get install -f
[05:13] <zedster> novemberhascome2: in lsusb don't you get the mount point?
[05:13] <EliasAmaral> -f stands for 'fix broken'
[05:13] <sc_woes> c'mon i'm not that stupid
[05:13] <onetinsoldier> emes: another alternative is 'evince'. it's in the repo. you might have it installed already
[05:14] <zedster> novemberhascome2: also make sure its not a hardware issue if its an external hd and not flash, could be a loose ide/sata
[05:14] <sc_woes> that string doesn't even specify what to fix
[05:14] <EliasAmaral> well, this command is syntactically valid
[05:14] <unixalot> what do you type to see all the available channels to join??
[05:15]  * unixalot nvm
[05:15] <RiverRat> Anyone know how to fix this:  Gtk-Message **: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 54, <> line 19.
[05:15] <EliasAmaral> and sometimes apt-get itself recommends it (whenever it smells a broken repository)
[05:15] <novemberhascome2> zedster: in lsusb the line that I see is Bus 001 Device 006: ID 13fd:1617 Initio Corporation that relates to that line.
[05:15] <sc_woes> but it seems to me that command is going to change a lot of stuff
[05:15] <novemberhascome2> zedster: Do you want to see the -vv for that device?
[05:16] <RiverRat> Like which package provides that library?
[05:16] <novemberhascome2> zedster: Furthermore it doesn't show in GParted.
[05:16] <onetinsoldier> RiverRat: bug-buddy
[05:16] <sc_woes> just judging from the top google results saying things like, "sudo apt-get install -f ruined my computer" etc
[05:16] <zedster> novemberhascome2: not sure it would help me help you, I still think hardware is the most likely issue
[05:16] <RiverRat> thanks
[05:16] <onetinsoldier> yw
[05:16] <sc_woes> i'm a newb to ubuntu but that doesn't mean i'm new to computers :)
[05:16] <novemberhascome2> zedster: I am in agreement.
[05:17] <zedster> novemberhascome2: as I said open the drive and make sure the hdd is seated
[05:17] <EliasAmaral> i didn't meant to say something malicious. but maybe apt-get has a dry run
[05:17] <novemberhascome2> zedster: Well, I just updated the firmware for the drive.
[05:17] <sc_woes> well here's my problem far as i can tell
[05:17] <sc_woes> owner@owner-desktop:~$ software-center Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/software-center", line 25, in <module>     import pygtk ImportError: No module named pygtk owner@owner-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get pygtk E: Invalid operation pygtk
[05:17] <zedster> novemberhascome2: it worked before that?
[05:17] <emes> unixalot: do you have a link to this?
[05:17] <EliasAmaral> o.o
[05:17] <novemberhascome2> zedster: Yes.
[05:18] <EliasAmaral> sc_woes, what about sudo apt-get install pygtk
[05:18] <zedster> novemberhascome2: hmm... see if the drive has a battery and pull it is the only thing I can think of, or find the manual and see if it has how to recover from a bad flash
[05:18] <unixalot> emes: yeah i can find a link,one sec.
[05:18] <EliasAmaral> sudo apt-get --dry-run install pygtk , if you prefer
[05:18] <EliasAmaral> ^^
[05:18] <sc_woes> owner@owner-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install pygtk [sudo] password for owner:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package pygtk owner@owner-desktop:~$
[05:19] <zedster> sovi3t: you still around?
[05:19] <Blue11> can anyone confirm that apache web server will no longer be supported?
[05:19] <EliasAmaral> sc_woes, apt-cache search pygtk
[05:19] <sovi3t> zedster, yep
[05:20] <sc_woes> oh now EliasAmaral, that's a big result
[05:20] <Myke516> hey everyone
[05:20] <sc_woes> big list of progs
[05:20] <sovi3t> zedster, just trying to remember how i fixed it, or even if an update did it for me
[05:20] <novemberhascome2> zedster: Got it! I just had to unpower and power the device.
[05:20] <novemberhascome2> Thanks man.
[05:20] <zedster> no prob
[05:20] <EliasAmaral> sc_woes, and maybe what you need isn't in this list.. nmm
[05:21] <sc_woes> argh
[05:21] <sc_woes> well the thing is, I can't use software center because it dies quietly every time i try to start
[05:21] <EliasAmaral> a guess: python-gtk2
[05:21] <sc_woes> and apparently it's trying to call pygtk, but can't find it
[05:21] <sc_woes> so maybe there's a .cfg we can edit to remove that call?
[05:21] <sc_woes> i'll try that, Elias
[05:21] <zedster> sovi3t: I'm going to reboot and come back in, I tried reinstall upstart so we'll see what happens
[05:21] <EliasAmaral> sc_woes, yes, it seems that a fundamental part of it (that gtk bindings for python) is missing or corrupted
[05:22] <sc_woes> yeah
[05:22] <sc_woes> it crashed when it was updating py
[05:22] <ociugi> how to mount my usb disk automatically. before, it was mounted automatically but now it is not, i don't know the reasons why
[05:22] <sc_woes> and now i'm supposed to be writing a frickin MyPLC extension in Py for my research proj
[05:22] <sc_woes> and i'm a total ubuntu newb :(
[05:23] <neverwill> same here bro
[05:23] <EliasAmaral> sc_woes, i searched with: apt-cache search gtk|grep ^python|grep gtk (apt-cache itself has something like.. apt-cache search '^python.*gtk', but it doesn't show up exactly what grep would.. and has no coloring :P)
[05:23] <EliasAmaral> sc_woes, myplc?
[05:23] <sc_woes> hmm okay well right now it's installing pythongtk2-dev, which is listed as having the bindings
[05:23] <wysiwyg> rc.webchat.org
[05:23] <sc_woes> so here's to hoping
[05:24] <EliasAmaral> -dev..?
[05:24] <sc_woes> yeah i'm hoping the developer's pack will have the bindings that it's calling? I dunno
[05:25] <sc_woes> wishin an prayin here
[05:25] <sc_woes> EliasAmaral, this is MyPLC http://www.planet-lab.org/
[05:25] <sc_woes> research framework for I2/NLR
[05:25] <unixalot> emes: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/58592
[05:26] <zedster> sovi3t: well that failed
[05:26] <EliasAmaral> i am not quite sure o.o but i bet that if there is a separate -dev, that's for C source code files that will be compiled (that will glue python with the GTK+ library written in C). maybe you need python-gtk2. but i am not sure either
[05:26] <sc_woes> well hell
[05:27] <pepee> hi
[05:27] <sovi3t> zedster, have you tried starting a tty manually?  sudo start tty2
[05:28] <zedster> sovi3t: that works
[05:28] <rww> Blue11: Which version of it?
[05:30] <sovi3t> zedster, can you pastebin your /etc/default/console-setup
[05:30] <rww> Blue11: Ubuntu hasn't supported apache1 (the version that Apache itself recently stopped supporting) since dapper. apache2 is still supported.
[05:30] <Myke516> anyone know what a good free and open-sourced program i could use to record my computer screen? I'd liek to make a recording/video of my screen so i can show others how to install things and do other Ubuntu related things
[05:30] <rww> ubottu: screencast | Myke516
[05:30] <sc_woes> good lord Myke516 I hope you find it
[05:31] <Blue11> rww: this is a really badly worded article:  http://apache.slashdot.org/story/10/02/03/2052211/The-Final-Release-of-Apache-HTTP-Server-13?from=rss
[05:31] <zedster> sovi3t: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d1890e88c
[05:31] <Myke516> Thanks :)
[05:32] <rww> Blue11: Right. Apache declared end of life on their version 1.3. Version 2 has existed for a long, long time. Ubuntu hasn't supported the version 1 series for years.
[05:32] <ravenxbishop1> hi
[05:32] <irfan_> how to make a voice chat in gyachi ?
[05:32] <MajinHeartless> Hi.Suddenly I can't send/receive e-mails with Evolution. The button turned gray... do you guys know why?
[05:32] <ravenxbishop1> need some help with porting drivers
[05:32] <sovi3t> zedster, so that looks right.
[05:32] <rww> well. Dapper is still supported on server, so I guess they kinda do. But it hasn't been shipped in a new release since then.
[05:32] <Blue11> rww: apparently I wasn't the only one that thought this was the death of apache -- - it's a badly worded article.....I checked to see what I have installed and it's v 2.2 --
[05:33] <ravenxbishop1> anyone know where i can get help porting drivers?
[05:33] <zedster> sovi3t: I think its something between xorg, grub2, and my nvidia drivers but I cannot nail it down
[05:33] <rww> Blue11: That's Slashdot for you. 2.2 is fine and supported.
[05:33] <zedster> ravenxbishop1: what drivers? most projects like that will show up on something like google code
[05:34] <Blue11> rww: indeed!  Thanks for the confirmation though -- and I'm very very glad I mis-interpretted that - but from the looks of it, a lot of people did too!
[05:34] <zmanning> woo hoo! new laptop!
[05:34] <irfan_> any body know ?
[05:34] <rww> Blue11: no problem. Glad I could be of help :)
[05:34] <zmanning> fresh ubuntu install
[05:34] <dabaR> majinheartless u restarted it?
[05:34] <zedster> sovi3t: when I run "runlevel" I get unknown as the output
[05:34] <MajinHeartless> Hi.Suddenly I can't send/receive e-mails with Evolution. The button turned gray... do you guys know why?
[05:34] <irfan_> how to make voice chat in gyachi ?
[05:34] <ravenxbishop1> zedster> it doesnt have ported drivers :) someone will have to do it ...
[05:34] <MajinHeartless> yes Dabar I did
[05:34] <MajinHeartless> two times
[05:34] <samt> i installed windowxp and debain daily.  after rebooted i don't see windowxp on the menu options.  can anybody help me with this. thanks
[05:34] <zedster> ravenxbishop1: what hardware is it?
[05:34] <MajinHeartless> never happened before
[05:34] <ravenxbishop1> aardvark sound cards
[05:35] <bazhang> samt, #debian for debian support
[05:35] <Blue11> zedster: they are called init - do a man init
[05:35] <zedster> Blue11: ??
[05:35] <webwanderer> How can I disable window decorations on docapps under openbox?
[05:35] <dabaR> did you go offline - bottom left
[05:36] <Blue11> zedster: init lets you set the runlevel --
[05:36] <ravenxbishop1> zedster> its not going to have a port, aardvark sound cards... many people want the drivers ported. but so far as i can find none have been
[05:36] <webwanderer> Does anybody use openbox in here?
[05:36] <gawk> samt: hopefully you did not accidentally overwrite that partition ;)
[05:36] <samt> no
[05:36] <nytek_> webwanderer: xmonad all the way
[05:36] <webwanderer> :(
[05:36] <MajinHeartless> I can't send e-mails neither.  When I click on Send it keeps in the outbox....  it was working fine a while ago
[05:36] <sovi3t> zedster, it wouldn't be x.  grub2 is a possibility.  try uncommenting GRUB_GFXMODE in /etc/default/grub doing an update-grub and rebooting
[05:36] <nytek_> webwanderer: what are you trying to do webwanderer?
[05:37] <dabaR> samt fix grub
[05:37] <Blue11> MajinHeartless: sounds like your smtp server may be dead
[05:37] <webwanderer> nytek_: My dockapp shows a window decoration.
[05:37] <samt> how d id do that?
[05:37] <jokehead> could anyone tell me how to bridge two connections?
[05:37] <webwanderer> I can't find a way to disable it.
[05:37] <MajinHeartless> Bluedll nop is not... just tried on a laptop with Ubuntu and work fine
[05:37] <bazhang> samt, is ubuntu installed on there as well? if so, which version
[05:37] <nytek_> webwanderer: as in like cairo?
[05:37] <MajinHeartless> I have five e-mails there...
[05:37] <irfan_> help me plz
[05:37] <samt> no
[05:37] <jokehead> !bridge
[05:37] <zmanning> anyone have a good link for best first steps for a fresh ubuntu install?
[05:37] <pren> hi. where are firefox plugin located? i looked in ~/.mozilla/plugins  there is nothing there
[05:37] <dabaR> samt google and #debian
[05:38] <bazhang> samt, then this is the wrong channel; #debian for debian support
[05:38] <ravenxbishop1> noone have any good ideas for finding people who port drivers?
[05:38] <samt> ok
[05:38] <webwanderer> nytek_: No, it shows a title bar. Which it shouldn't.
[05:38] <Blue11> zmanning:  backup /etc/ and /home/ first
[05:38] <dabaR> majinheartless you might be in offline mode
[05:38] <samt> but nobody  talking there right now. so i thought i try you guys
[05:38] <samt> thanks anyway
[05:39] <nytek_> webwanderer: hmm, im not familiar with openbox. im sorry, trying the openbox channel
[05:39] <jokehead> could anyone tell me how to bridge two connections?
[05:39] <noric> I am developing a gnome applet. I would like to add it to my ubuntu gnome panel, without "make install"
[05:39] <dabaR> samt google fix grub debian windows
[05:39] <samt> ok thanks i will try to give it a try
[05:40] <dabaR> !ics
[05:40] <noric> As far as I know, the only way to add an applet to the panel is to right click and "Add to Panel".  I'm wondering if there is a way I can do it from file ??
[05:40] <webwanderer> nytek_: Thanks
[05:40] <jokehead> dabaR, was that for me?
[05:40] <MajinHeartless> lol dabar thanks... I tried to re-install it from Synpatics and same issue... lol, it's changed alone xD  It's fixed... I've been 6 whole years without even a windows partition-wine... never happened before
[05:40] <dabaR> Jokehead yup
[05:40] <jokehead> dabaR, that's not what i meant
[05:41] <MajinHeartless> thanks guys
[05:41] <bazhang> jokehead, is this irkep from before?
[05:42] <dabaR> yw
[05:42] <jokehead> bazhang, yes
[05:42] <bazhang> jokehead, and you read the ubuntu help guide?
[05:42] <jokehead> that is for a no longer supported version of ubuntu
[05:43] <zmanning> Blue11, thanks
[05:44] <jokehead> bazhang that is for a no longer supported version of ubuntu
[05:44] <Blue11> zmanning: i know that seems trite - but if you screw anything up, you have a path back to the way it was before you messed it up.
[05:45] <noric> I'm working with a gnome-applet. make install was supposed to add the applet to the "Add to Panel" menu, but it did not. How can I add it manually?
[05:45] <zmanning> Blue11, yeah im pretty confident im not going to delete the whole etc dir as ive done that before
[05:45] <sc_woes> can anyone help me fix this error?
[05:45] <sc_woes> owner@owner-desktop:~$ software-center Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/software-center", line 25, in <module>     import pygtk ImportError: No module named pygtk owner@owner-desktop:~$
[05:45] <Blue11> zmanning: I've done worser!
[05:46] <zmanning> Blue11, yeah i tried using a mac for around a year or so. came crawling back to ubuntu. i missed it.
[05:46] <jokehead> bazhang?
[05:46] <nsgn> in empathy i'm trying to get a mail filter/rule to execute a shell script. it performs other actions attached to the same filter rule, but ignores launching the shell script. the shell script can be launched exactly as is manually
[05:46] <Blue11> zmanning: also this helps:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=66
[05:46] <dabaR> sc_woes open a terminal run python
[05:46] <nsgn> *evolution, dangit
[05:46] <nsgn> evolution
[05:46] <jokehead> could anyone tell me how to bridge two connections?
[05:46] <sc_woes> dabaR done, running py
[05:46] <nsgn> can't launch a shell script from a filter in evolution using it's "run program" outcome"
[05:47] <sc_woes> owner@owner-desktop:~$ python Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Dec  7 2009, 18:45:15)  [GCC 4.4.1] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>
[05:47] <dabaR> sc type import pygtk
[05:47] <dabaR> it should error
[05:47] <sc_woes> dabaR Traceback (most recent call last):   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> ImportError: No module named pygtk >>>
[05:48] <RiverRat> How can I find out which package provides a library?  Say /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
[05:48] <zmanning> Blue11, haha thanks
[05:48] <dabaR> now run in another terminal aptitude search python | grep gym
[05:48] <jokehead> HELLO
[05:49] <futurama140> hey could someone help me with a very complex graphics card issue?
[05:49] <dabaR> not gym gtk
[05:49] <nsgn> anyone on why a shell script won't launch from a mail rule in evolution?
[05:49] <zmanning> so if i were installing an application like songbird, where would i put the install files /usr/lib?
[05:49] <jokehead> could anyone tell me how to bridge two connections?
[05:49] <jokehead> HELLO
[05:49] <sc_woes> dabaR big old list
[05:50] <zmanning> jokehead, http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+bridge+two+connections&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a ?
[05:50] <zmanning> jokehead, whoops: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[05:50] <pingfloyd> or install a switch
[05:50] <futurama140> hey could someone help me with a very complex graphics card issue?
[05:50] <jokehead> zmanning, that is for an expired version of ubuntu
[05:50] <dabaR> sc what about python-gnome
[05:50] <bazhang> !info bridge-utils | jokehead
[05:50] <pingfloyd> futurama140: haha, you again :P
[05:51] <IdleOne> futurama140: ask your next question. the real one.
[05:51] <sc_woes> dabaR what about it? i don't know what you're asking.
[05:51] <sc_woes> sorry
[05:51] <bazhang> futurama140, please ask
[05:51] <defendguin1> i'm getting a message in my notification area that my display server is broken
[05:51] <dabaR> it is installed if the line starts with I
[05:51] <pingfloyd> IdleOne: he just got done with throwing a tantrum in another channel
[05:51] <dabaR> sc is it?
[05:51] <RiverRat> How can I find out which package provides a library?  Say /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
[05:51] <defendguin1> it says to read this person's blog but that doesn't tell me anything about fixing it
[05:51] <sc_woes> no i dont even see it
[05:51] <sc_woes> dabaR
[05:52] <RiverRat> Is there a good search tool for installed files I can query?
[05:52] <IdleOne> pingfloyd: that was there, this is here. hopefully futurama140 will know better :)
[05:52] <sc_woes> dabaR we go from galago to gtk
[05:52] <sc_woes> dabaR owner@owner-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get python-gnome [sudo] password for owner:  E: Invalid operation python-gnome owner@owner-desktop:~$
[05:53] <pingfloyd> IdleOne: he got mad because he was told to ask his question instead of beating around the bush and playing games
[05:53] <bazhang> jokehead, if you are referring to a wired and wireless connection bridge there are a number of threads at ubuntuforums on that
[05:53] <nameo0> how do i found out if im running a 32 or 64-bit os?
[05:53] <yumte> any can help me about install debian via network and nfs server.....?????????
[05:53] <Flannel> sc_woes: sudo apt-get install python-gnome (you forget the instlal)
[05:54] <defendguin1> http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/   anyone know about this issue?
[05:54] <bazhang> yumte, #debian for debian support
[05:54] <IdleOne> zmanning: I believe the songbird site has instruction on installing to ubuntu with an easy to use .deb file
[05:54] <dabaR> sc sudo aptitude install pygtk
[05:54] <ubuntologist> nameo0 - from the command line, type uname -a
[05:54] <zmanning> IdleOne, for general reference though, would that be the correct location?
[05:55] <futurama140> IdleOne: i just bought a new nvidia graphics card to replace an unsupported card in ubuntu, anytime i ran a 3d accelerated program, the screen would flash black. i tried about 7 different drivers to no avail. i was trolled into erasing my ubuntu, so i re-installed windows, and i used a new monitor. i just picked up a new monitor and now the flicker is back with 3d stuff. ive tried several power supplies, many drivers, TWO diff
[05:55] <IdleOne> zmanning: /opt I believe is a better location. I might be wrong. I don't normally compile
[05:55] <McShane> is there any way I can instruct apt or aptitude to remove all packages that were installed within a certain time frame?
[05:55] <sc_woes> dabaR, weird message, but it's working, check this out - 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 19 to remove and 38 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 117MB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
[05:56] <futurama140> IdleOne: do. i have no idea what the problem is or how to fix it. i could go into a lot more detail but with that other guy here i just dont feel like it would be worthwhile.
[05:56] <nameo0> ubuntologist: it did not tell if its 64 or 32 bit
[05:56] <q0_0p> McShane, yes with cron
[05:56] <dabaR> sc not exactly as expected . what did you do to mess it up?
[05:56] <zmanning> IdleOne, no no im not looking to compile. lets say i was just installing it outside of any deb file or repository. where would be the best location?
[05:57] <Flannel> zmanning: /usr/local/*
[05:57] <sc_woes> dabaR, it finished with a HUGE number of warnings, and as soon as it finished, Update Manager popped up saying it wants to install gtk2.0, should i let it?
[05:57] <ubuntologist> nameo0 - should do. uname -m may narrow it down. if not x86_64, it's 32-bit
[05:57] <dabaR> sc sudo aptitude -f install after
[05:57] <zmanning> Flannel, excellent, thanks!
[05:57] <dabaR> yes
[05:57] <sc_woes> dabar it got messed up when it crashed (random freeze) while installing python dev kit
[05:57] <Flannel> zmanning: /opt/ is for special 'package' type things, that don't follow the general /bin/ /lib/ sort of directory stuff
[05:57] <nameo0> ubuntologist: it prints out i686
[05:58] <dabaR> sc weird
[05:58] <zmanning> Flannel, so why is an app like firefox in /usr/lib?
[05:58] <dabaR> sc it will likely fix itself now
[05:58] <sc_woes> dabaR yeah i haven't been able to run software_center (hence my name) or Update Manager since then
[05:58] <IdleOne> futurama140: I can point you to the ubuntu wiki page that covers nvidia cards but I can't help you more then that. I suggest trying to trim down your question. give the channel your graphics card info and someone should be able to help
[05:58] <sc_woes> and i really need to use python!!!! :)
[05:59] <dabaR> sc installation in progress?
[05:59] <futurama140> IdleOne: ok, well thanks anyway.
[05:59] <sc_woes> dabaR yup 5 min remaining
[05:59] <Flannel> zmanning: Because firefox has issues.  #ubuntu-mozillateam might be able to shed some light on that.
[05:59] <dabaR> k let me know
[05:59] <sc_woes> it's downloading and i've got some torrents in the background so it'll be a bit
[06:00] <yumte> any can help me about install debian via network and nfs server.....?????????
[06:00] <sc_woes> thanks for all your help so far man
[06:00] <sc_woes> i really appreciate it
[06:00] <IdleOne> !nividia > futurama140
[06:00] <IdleOne> !nvidia > futurama140
[06:00] <zmanning> Flannel, haha alright
[06:00] <yumte> any can help me about install debian via network and nfs server.....?????????
[06:00] <rww> yumte: Debian support in #debian
[06:00] <bazhang> yumte, ubuntu involved in that somehow?
[06:00] <phong_> hello
[06:00] <zmanning> Flannel, so like /usr/local/share would be the right location?
[06:01] <Blue11> it there anyway to determine what programme has a device locked so it can't dismount?
[06:01] <ubuntologist> nameo0 - try sudo lshw -class cpu
[06:01] <Flannel> zmanning: /usr/share goes to /usr/local/share (/usr/* -> usr/local/*) yeah.
[06:03] <nameo0> ubuntologist - would it be under width?
[06:03] <zmanning> Flannel, yeah it just doesnt seem like the right place to place applications.  so I would created a folder like /usr/local/share/songbird/ ?
[06:03] <ubuntologist> that's it...width
[06:03] <nameo0> k thy
[06:03] <devrethman> What's a command to sort things in intuitive order. I.E. image-2.png comes before image-10.png
[06:03] <devrethman> ?
[06:04] <CR> having some trouble with msfcli i get a connection but then nothing happens
[06:05] <pingfloyd> devrethman: sort
[06:05] <sc_woes> dabaR i am happy to say that software center works
[06:05] <Blue11> why won't this device dismount?
[06:05] <dabaR> cool
[06:05] <devrethman> pingfloyd: With what options? All the ones I've tried sort them in pure alphabetical order.
[06:06] <pingfloyd> devrethman: -gd maybe, you'll have to experiment
[06:06] <dabaR> sc sudo aptitude -f install tends to fix package trouble
[06:06] <sovi3t> Blue11 lsof /dev/[device]
[06:07] <sc_woes> dabaR does it just run through all the packages and compare to their hash or what?
[06:07] <iflema> Blue11 fuser -vm /dev/sr0
[06:07] <nameo0> whats the difference between creating a disc from the contents of an iso or with the iso file inside?
[06:07] <devrethman> It won't allow me to sort things with multiple sorting order options. It says the options are incompatable.
[06:07] <dabaR> sc no idea
[06:07] <noric> Nice. I compiled this gnome-applet, managed to install and add it to my gnome-panel, but it was crashing. Managed to use gdb to modify the stdout file descriptor so I could read the error message. Pasted it into google, came up with a bug, just had to install a missing dependency :)
[06:07] <noric> Yay technology
[06:07] <devrethman> and none of the options it provides are right.
[06:08] <sc_woes> what does this do?  sudo apt-get install -f
[06:08] <m0ar> sc_woes:  man apt-get
[06:08] <noric> So uh, gnome-voice-control is an applet that lets you execute "RUN TERMINAL" and other hardcoded commands into your mic.
[06:08] <EliasAmaral> sudo apt-get --dry-run install -f
[06:09] <noric> Now that I have it building and running, I'm modifying the hardcoded list of voice commands to read a config file.
[06:09] <noric> By tomorrow I should be able to say "computer play music"
[06:09] <EliasAmaral> it will show what it will do, without actually doing anything
[06:09] <noric> huzzah
[06:09] <nameo0> can someone please help me with burning an iso to a cd
[06:09] <nameo0> ?
[06:09] <sovi3t> noric lol
[06:09] <Blue11> sovi3t: that didn't work
[06:09] <spiffythekid__> sup
[06:09] <iflema> Blue11 fuser -vm /dev/sr0... thatll show PID of app using the block device.... sr0 should be right unless you got multiple roms
[06:09] <Blue11> iflema: that didn't work either
[06:09] <EliasAmaral> nameo0, do you know of a program named brasero?
[06:09] <sovi3t> Blue11 - didn't list anything?
[06:09] <wickwire_> \quit
[06:09] <noric> Actually Gnome has no out-of-the-box voice recognition; no simple voice->command mapping. hopefully I can make this my first open source patch lol
[06:09] <Blue11> iflema: it's /dev/sdc
[06:10] <iflema> Blue11 if there is no output from fuser then no app is holding it....
[06:10] <nameo0> eliasAmaral: ya i need help with it
[06:10] <EliasAmaral> nameo0, it's installed by default on ubuntu 9.10 - tools, sound and video, brasero disk burner (but it works for data cds/dvds too)
[06:10] <Blue11> now it unmounts
[06:10] <nameo0> please message me EliasAmaral
[06:11] <EliasAmaral> nameo0, so ask your question
[06:11] <nytek_> what does gnome call the power settings?
[06:11] <LasBuntu> how do I stop Gnome panels from loading in KDE?
[06:11] <zmanning> so no one knows where application files should actually go? im just trying to get an idea of best practice
[06:11] <nytek_> gnome-power-settings?
[06:11] <EliasAmaral> nameo0, I must help you in the public channel, sorry
[06:11] <LasBuntu> I just went from Gnome to KDE and i'm still seeing the old panels in the new KDE desktop
[06:11] <EliasAmaral> nameo0, that's because if i say something wrong, someone can correct me
[06:11] <chelz> is there some way to look at a list of updates released for ubuntu and filter so that only the ones requiring restarts are shown?
[06:11] <ubuntologist> nameo0 - if brasero doesn't work for u, try k3b - i found it to work where brasero didn't
[06:12] <nameo0> Elias: basically i can only open the cd and then mount the file
[06:12] <nameo0> i cant do it strait from the program
[06:12] <philien> Hi are anybody from the translation team ?
[06:12] <EliasAmaral> nameo0, now I don't understand you. what you want to do? to clone a cd?
[06:13] <iflema> Blue11 by the way.... a sudo infront of fuser is best practice
[06:13] <IdleOne> !purekde | LasBuntu
[06:13] <chelz> nameo0: from the main Brasero window, right after you open it, there's "Burn image"
[06:13] <Blue11> iflema: indeed now trying to mount the partition read/write
[06:13] <philien> Are anybody from the translation team ?
[06:13] <LasBuntu> IdleOne: no, I just want to stop the gnome-panel from loading
[06:13] <nameo0> elias: i want to burn an image onto a cd but brasero will not recognize the cd unless i open the cd with it
[06:13] <philien> Are anybody from the translation team ?
[06:14] <philien> Are there anybody from the translation team ?
[06:14] <Blue11> iflema: not happy with this:  sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /media/sansa
[06:14] <IdleOne> LasBuntu: gnome-panel is loading when you chose KDE at the login menu?
[06:14] <nameo0> nvm now it recognizes
[06:14] <nameo0> thy for the help
[06:15] <philien> Nameo0 - Are you in the translation team ?
[06:15] <nameo0> no
[06:15] <nameo0> but i speak fluant polish if that helps
[06:15] <iflema> Blue11 vfat can get lost..... sorry about earlier for some reason i assumed cdrom..
[06:15] <EliasAmaral> nameo0, Hmmm o.o what do you mean by "unless i open the cd with it"? maybe it's my poor english or something
[06:15] <spiffythekid> hey guys
[06:16] <philien> Nameo0 - I want to translate Ubuntu's CD
[06:16] <Blue11> iflema: i am trying to mount my sansa fuse (vfat) as read write - it defaults to read only - and no es muy bueno
[06:16] <chelz> EliasAmaral: when a CD is inserted a window pops up asking what program should be launched to interact with it. it's been that way since at least intrepid
[06:16] <nameo0> Elias: nvm just brasero took a long time to recognize that there was a cd
[06:17] <chelz> Blue11: if something can be mounted rw, it usually is by default. are you sure there's no write protect switch on the device itself? or perhaps an option in its menu?
[06:17] <iflema> Blue11 mmm... not sure... gksu nautilus?!?!?!
[06:17] <devrethman> Does anybody offhand know how to use imagemagick (or anything else) to combine a bunch of PNGs into pages of a PDF?
[06:17] <Blue11> chelz: dunno I'll look into that
[06:17] <EliasAmaral> hmmmmm. if you select brasero in the pop up that asks for what to do with a blank disk, it can burn normally nameo0?
[06:18] <nameo0> elais: its all good now
[06:18] <sovi3t> devrethman see tiffcp and tiff2pdf
[06:19] <chelz> devrethman: this is one way: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/35022
[06:19] <sovi3t> devrethman make that libtiff-tools
[06:19] <infid> what's more stable, gnome or kde?
[06:19] <sovi3t> infid gnome
[06:19] <slashzul> gnome
[06:19] <chelz> infid: gnome on ubuntu
[06:19] <devrethman> gnome
[06:19] <ouyes> both, depends on what you using
[06:19] <infid> k
[06:20] <LasBuntu> IdleOne: yes
[06:20] <chelz> assuming this is #ubuntu, i'd wager he means on ubuntu
[06:20] <devrethman> In what context is KDE more stable? I've never had gnome crash on me.
[06:20] <LasBuntu> IdleOne: it's apparently somehow connected to the netbook remix desktop, but we shut that off, "killall -9 gnome-panel" gets rid of it after KDE loads
[06:20] <chelz> well kubuntu hasn't had a very good reputation from shipping things that are kinda flaky
[06:20] <ouyes> IdleOne,  i am back, the usage satatistics  is open source , so i am safe
[06:21] <chelz> if someone wants something to 'just work' going with the default of gnome on ubuntu is a good idea
[06:21] <IdleOne> ouyes: :)
[06:21] <Blue11> iflema: nope even gksudo won't let me delete
[06:22] <IdleOne> LasBuntu: got me.
[06:22] <LasBuntu> ok, was worth a shot, thanks :)
[06:22] <IdleOne> LasBuntu: maybe ask in #kubuntu
[06:22] <EliasAmaral> nameo0, ..? i can't understand, is brasero okay now?
[06:22] <emghazal> How do I use Alt-codes? In Windows I can press Alt-0151 to type an em dash (—), but I can't do that here. I know I can use Character Map, but I want to type them using the keyboard
[06:23] <ouyes> infid, xfce, gnome,kde just the desktop envirnment of ubuntu, so you are almost at the same stable stage. the stability depended on your hardware and software
[06:23] <millertimek1a2m3> hey - which cross platform C++ based library is used more
[06:23] <millertimek1a2m3> qt or gtk?
[06:24] <sovi3t> millertimekla2m3 q3
[06:24] <sovi3t> qt*
[06:24] <ouyes> millertimek1a2m3,  i do not know ,but gtk i think, because it is small and simply but also powerful
[06:24] <Blue11> iflema: this is how it's mounted:  /dev/sdd /media/SANSA\040FUZE vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush 0 0
[06:25] <rat_> I am trying to install .net framework 2.0 sp1 in wine and I keep getting this "err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"InstallExecute" returned 1603" any suggestions? I have installed .net 2.0 via winetricks, but it still says it needs .net framework 2.0 sp1
[06:25] <Lanlost> Hey, I'm trying to create a launcher. Every time I do it it just gives me the waiting hourglass (the circle thing instead) and it never appears
[06:25] <Lanlost> Is there a way to create one manually? It's .launcher right?
[06:25] <chelz> emghazal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=434641
[06:25] <millertimek1a2m3> sovi3t, ouyes : I haven't seen a single recently written book out there on either of the subjects
[06:25] <chelz> Blue11: make sure you have write access to the mounted folder
[06:26] <Blue11> chelz: how do I do that?
[06:26] <ouyes> millertimek1a2m3, a book why needs a book, if there is , it must be a very thick book.
[06:26] <Blue11> chelz: it's like it's write locked
[06:26] <sovi3t> millertimekla2m3 yea, i mis-spoke been looking at a lot of kde4 on windows lately.  gtk likely the leader
[06:26] <millertimek1a2m3> hmm
[06:27] <chelz> Blue11: pastebin  ls -l /media
[06:28] <Blue11> !pastebin
[06:28] <Blue11> chelz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/368693/
[06:28] <clauden> hi all
[06:28] <eeeekyellowsnow> Question: I just downloaded a package "nautilus-wallpaper", how do i open it to make some changes to the setting?
[06:28] <ratapoil> what would be the command to list files and subdirectories and print to file?
[06:29] <clauden> karmic: rc.local not firing... any ideas?  tried sleep 30 and a bunch of other tricks.  runs fine as S10rc.local :)
[06:29] <Blue11> chelz: says it read/only file system
[06:29] <Trezker> Problem, my router lets me connect to it and I have good signal, but it lags really bad. There's no communication for half a minute, then comes a burst of data and then it halts for half a minute again.
[06:29] <millertimek1a2m3> KDE was built with qt.
[06:30] <sovi3t> ratapoil find . -name "*" -print > outfile
[06:30] <Blue11> okay it's forced me to boot windows bbiab
[06:30] <millertimek1a2m3> also, the license on the gtk site says "2007"
[06:30] <chelz> Blue11: do   chmod 777 /media/SANSA*
[06:31] <chelz> might need a sudo
[06:31] <m0ar> ratapoil: find /path - >> file.tt
[06:31] <m0ar> txt* or w/e
[06:31] <m0ar> sovi3t: -print isn't needed since it already outputs, and > redirects the output
[06:31] <sovi3t> m0ar - yea, just figured that out ;)
[06:32] <m0ar> ratapoil: Sorry, find /path/ -d >> file.txt.   -d is for -depth, >> ADDS to file, if you use > you'll replace the info in the file!
[06:33] <m0ar> ratapoil: Then if you want to list a certain type of files you can use -name "*.*" and stuff like that. As path . and .. works finers
[06:34] <m0ar> sovi3t: Wtf does -print do btw?
[06:34] <m0ar> :)
[06:35] <tico> HELLLOOOOOOOOOO
[06:35] <Darkben> hi
[06:35] <tico> someone knows how to open .cbl file under ubuntu?
[06:36] <sovi3t> m0ar it prints the output when using -exec
[06:37] <tomatoes7> i accidentally removed my volume control from the top panel and i don't know how to get it back
[06:37] <tomatoes7> i try Add to Panel, but the volume control is not an option
[06:38] <m0ar> tomatoes7: pulse or alsa?
[06:38] <rat_> I am trying to install .net framework 2.0 sp1 in wine and I keep getting this "err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"InstallExecute" returned 1603" any suggestions? I have installed .net 2.0 via winetricks, but it still says it needs .net framework 2.0 sp1
[06:38] <m0ar> tomatoes7: try starting gnome-volume-controlapplet
[06:38] <m0ar> control-applet*
[06:38] <error404notfound> i have configured postfix to bind to all interfaces and accept connections from a specific ip say my.ip.add.ress/32 to my_networks, configured firewall but i still can't even telnet to port 25 on postfix server.
[06:40] <tomatoes7> alsa
[06:41] <jstagame> can someone help with my problem i installed ubuntu 9.04 PC intel x86 desktop for somehow it changed to 64 bit?
[06:41] <indus> jstagame, its not possible
[06:41] <rww> jstagame: what's the output of "uname -a" in the terminal?
[06:42] <indus> jstagame, yes output of uname -a command
[06:42] <clauden> rc.local any ideas?
[06:43] <jstagame> Linux ubuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:40:41 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:43] <tomatoes7> how do i get my volume control back on the panel?
[06:44] <jstagame> indus here is my result on that
[06:44] <jstagame> Linux ubuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:40:41 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:44] <indus> jstagame, you installed a 64 bit version
[06:45] <tomatoes7> how do i get back my notification panel
[06:45] <jstagame> PC (Intel x86) server install CD
[06:45] <indus> tomatoes7, right click panel>add to panel
[06:45] <jstagame> thats where i install
[06:45] <indus> jstagame, maybe a mistake on website then
[06:46] <jstagame> i am on this site indus http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[06:46] <indus> jstagame, but i can assure you, it cannot change from 386 to x86_64
[06:46] <indus> jstagame, what you install is what you get
[06:46] <jstagame> i ran on my another pc without a problem
[06:47] <jstagame> when i run it on this pc thats what i ran to
[06:47] <indus> jstagame, strange but dont know if its possible
[06:48] <jstagame> hehe,Thank you indus yeah i find that strange since i didn't even have problem with my another pc but on this one shoot give my head  pounding
[06:49] <indus> jstagame,is this a server install
[06:49] <jstagame> no sir desktop
[06:49] <indus> jstagame, whats the vesion of firefox ,check in about
[06:49] <songer> hello
[06:50] <songer> i have problems with my nvidia
[06:50] <indus> jstagame, you said its server ?
[06:50] <jstagame> i use the 3.0.3 version
[06:50] <jstagame> no sir desktop
[06:50] <om26er> songer, complain them. :(
[06:51] <om26er> songer, ok sorry. driver not working?
[06:51] <songer> yeap
[06:51] <SetiAmon> This may not be the exact place to ask,but is there a way to anonymize bit torrent on linux
[06:51] <indus> jstagame, you ssaid above, intel pc server install cd
[06:51] <om26er> songer, which nvidia card are you using?
[06:52] <jstagame> sorry my error typo
[06:52] <jstagame> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD actuall ran this one here
[06:52] <indus> jstagame, you installed another cd probably
[06:52] <indus> jstagame, nvm i dont know what to say
[06:53] <jstagame> hehe, yeah thank you indus for your help
[06:53] <indus> jstagame, :)
[06:53] <HammerHead66> can anyone tell me how to download all 32bit lib for my pc?
[06:53] <Blue11> iflema: heh apparently windows "read-only" permission is different then linux --
[06:53] <jargal> hey help me: how to stardict dictionary into add more language (my language mongol.dic) for ubuntu
[06:53] <indus> HammerHead66, all?
[06:53] <HammerHead66> yea
[06:53] <songer> is
[06:53] <songer> C51 [GeForce 6150 LE]
[06:53] <indus> HammerHead66, why do you need all?
[06:54] <Blue1> crazy
[06:54] <HammerHead66> well I'm trying to get my adobe to work but the 32bit libs i need won't install
[06:54] <chelz> HammerHead66: why not just download what you need? i'm guessing you want to run some 32bit stuff on a 64bit system
[06:54] <jargal> hey help me: how to stardict dictionary into add more language (my language mongol.dic) for ubuntu
[06:54] <chelz> HammerHead66: what version of ubuntu are you using and what piece of adobe software are you trying to use?
[06:55] <jstagame> indus Thanks have a great nite
[06:55] <songer> om26er: if I install the drivers the pc gets slow
[06:55] <HammerHead66> I'm not sure
[06:55] <om26er> songer, no?
[06:56] <jargal> hey help me: how to stardict dictionary into add more language (my language mongol.dic) for ubuntu
[06:56] <om26er> songer, which driver you installed? (version)
[06:56] <songer> C51 [GeForce 6150 LE]
[06:56] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: how do I get the ver up on terminal?
[06:56] <songer> 96.43.13
[06:57] <chelz> HammerHead66: cat /etc/issue
[06:57] <jargal> hey help me: how to stardict dictionary into add more language (my language mongol.dic) for ubuntu
[06:57] <chelz> jargal: cat /etc/issue
[06:57] <chelz> erm
[06:57] <chelz> jargal: System ---> Administration ---> Language Selector
[06:57] <jargal> ok
[06:58] <om26er> songer, open System>administration>hardware drivers
[06:58] <chelz> jargal: second one
[06:58] <songer> from there i install the drivers
[06:58] <om26er> songer, and was it recommended?
[06:58] <songer> i installed it
[06:58] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS
[06:59] <songer> vercion 185
[06:59] <Yggdrasil> hello, where is teh applications menu information stored ?
[06:59] <chelz> HammerHead66: ah alright. so what adobe software are you trying to use? is it perhaps photoshop or flash or dreamweaver or.. ?
[06:59] <HammerHead66> flash
[06:59] <Yggdrasil> wine left its dirty little afterbirth there
[06:59] <Yggdrasil> wine is crap
[07:00] <chelz> Yggdrasil: System -> Preferences -> Main Menu
[07:00] <songer> it happen the same thing
[07:01] <chelz> HammerHead66: do you want to make flash things or watch them?
[07:01] <Yggdrasil> thanks
[07:01] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: I would be watching them
[07:01] <chelz> HammerHead66: do you use firefox?
[07:01] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: yes
[07:02] <chelz> HammerHead66: in the terminal do:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:02] <songer> om26er, when i try to play any video it goes pausing
[07:02] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: it's working
[07:03] <meatbun> when i modify /etc/resolv.conf, do i need to restart some sort of service?
[07:03] <chelz> HammerHead66: just so i know what i'm recommending is correct, please paste what this outputs in the terminal:   uname -a
[07:04] <zenlunatic> meatbun: dont think so
[07:04] <tom-v415> I'm working on a new install of ubuntu, and after importing my old /home data from a backup, things were looking good.. .then my internet connection just stoped.. I can see the local network, but not outside.  Rebooted to windows, no problem.  Other computers no problem, but this one, can only see local.
[07:04] <tom-v415> how do I troubleshoot?
[07:05] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: ok 1 sec it's still working
[07:05] <chelz> HammerHead66: you can open a new terminal window
[07:05] <chelz> tom-v415: pastebin the output of "traceroute google.com"
[07:05] <chelz> tom-v415: without the quotes
[07:05] <tom-v415> chelz: ok.. looks like local may not be working either.. just a sec.
[07:06] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz:  Linux ok 2.6.24-26-generic
[07:07] <Yvier6> Anyone here?
[07:07] <chelz> HammerHead66: there should be more to it than that. are you sure you're copying and pasting all of it?
[07:07] <chelz> Yvier6: sometimes ;)
[07:07] <hero1900> i got weird problem when i watch youtube is firefox the sound will gone after that and i need to log out and in to get it back
[07:07] <hero1900> ??
[07:07] <zmanning> with compiz, is there an expose for windows?
[07:07] <hero1900> any help
[07:08] <Yvier6> How can i create a "link" that  can run "/var/www/vhosts/domain.de/httpdocs/" (without quotes) with drupal ?
[07:08] <zmanning> hero1900, have you looked at alsamixer?
[07:08] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: Linux ok 2.6.24-26-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 1 17:55:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:08] <zmanning> hero1900, then f5
[07:08] <chelz> zmanning: http://wiki.compiz.org/CommonKeyboardShortcuts
[07:08] <Yvier6> how can i input "drupal" instead of "/var/www/vhostsdomain.de/httpdocs/" ?
[07:08] <Yvier6> i think this way is better to understand
[07:09] <tom-v415> chelz: no luck... the program 'traceroute' can not be found.. (odd)  when I try sudo apt-get install traceroute, I see 'failed to fetch and Network is unreachable)
[07:09] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: yeah it works now thank you!
[07:09] <hero1900> yes
[07:09] <chelz> HammerHead66: awesome! thanks for using ubuntu :)
[07:09] <zmanning> chelz, so i guess thats a no then?
[07:09] <hero1900> actually sound will not go totally
[07:09] <hero1900> it will work only in firefox
[07:09] <tom-v415> chelz: something simple in my settings that I updated probably
[07:09] <hero1900> and in totem or vlc or any other applications mute
[07:10] <chelz> zmanning: there are ways to organize windows so you select between them, i'm not sure if they're part of compiz though. i do know programs that do that exist for linux
[07:10] <gokturk> #ubuntu-tr
[07:10] <Yvier6> is theren't a olution?
[07:10] <iflema> tom-v415 ping is a good start.. unless you luv ya fiewalls.. tryin a terminal  ping ubuntu.com also check ' ifconfig ' confirm ya interface is loaded
[07:10] <Yvier6> solution*
[07:10] <chelz> tom-v415: you could check the output of   ifconfig
[07:10] <INDUS> HI
[07:11] <Yvier6> chelz: is there a solution chelz?
[07:11] <tom-v415> chelz: using system->network->traceroute als fails with send failed
[07:11] <nat2610_> Hey, what can I do ? I have ubuntu 9.10 and Every so often the sound totally stop to working in my browsers (firefox and chrome). Is there anything I can simply restart like a service or  I don't know what ?
[07:11] <chelz> hero1900: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:11] <hero1900> 9.10
[07:11] <devrethman> Is anyone here familiar with tiff2pdf? when I try to use it the file it outputs is like 4 pixels wide, which is a problem.
[07:11] <hero1900> and i have lastest alsa
[07:11] <hero1900> 22
[07:12] <chelz> Yvier6: sure, you mean in a terminal? like say you wanted to run "ls -l" but only wanted to type "ll"?
[07:12] <tom-v415> iflema: I'll copy the ifconfig to pastebin...but need to use usb to move to networked computer..
[07:12] <chelz> hero1900: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - go through this
[07:12] <chelz> tom-v415: well are you getting an ip from it? are you able to ping other local machines?
[07:12] <hero1900> okey
[07:13] <hero1900> thx
[07:13] <chelz> nat2610_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[07:13] <Yvier6> chelz: yes i mean in terminal it is so bad to write /var/www/vhosts/domain.de/httpdocs/ could i create a symbolic link that i only could drupal write and then my terminal goes to var/www....
[07:13] <Yvier6> ?
[07:13] <iflema> tom-v415 how many network cards in it? include wireless?
[07:13] <FloodBot2> Yvier6: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:13] <tom-v415> chelz: doesn't look like I can get to other local machines
[07:14] <nat2610_> chelz, I checked before, but it's not really my problem. If I use for example vlc, the sound is there ... it's only in the browser that I notice this issue
[07:14] <tom-v415> iflema: wireless is connected..shows signal strength
[07:14] <chelz> Yvier6: sure! we call those "symbolic links" to make a link you do:   ln -s target linkName
[07:14] <iflema> tom-v415 and wireless is what you trying to connect through?
[07:15] <Yvier6> ln -s /var/www/vhosts/XXX/httpdocs/ drupal
[07:15] <Yvier6> so?
[07:15] <chelz> Yvier6: yeah, where you execute that a link called "drupal" will be created
[07:15] <chelz> Yvier6: so make sure you're where you want the link to be
[07:15] <tom-v415> iflema: yes, I can try wired..
[07:15] <Yvier6> chelz: with cd or what do you mean
[07:15] <chelz> Yvier6: yes
[07:16] <tom-v415> iflema: but it was all working fine  just a little while ago.
[07:16] <Yvier6> cd var....?
[07:16] <chelz> Yvier6: you can optionally do something like:  ln -s /var/www/vhosts/XXX/httpdocs/ /home/Yvier6/Desktop/drupal
[07:16] <Yvier6> chelz: hm..and only drupal isnt ok?
[07:16] <iflema> tom-v415 ok... well... whats changed?
[07:16] <damnbadluck> excuse me, i was here yesterday and my mounter became corrupt, so joeyjones told me to "sudo remove mount" and the whole OS is gone, i have a 9.10 disc here, and i have access to the command line in grub, can i repair my system this way? i would just try a fresh install but i have some files i need to save.
[07:16] <chelz> Yvier6: i'm talking about where the link you create will be put
[07:17] <Yvier6> chelz: thanks an last question :D how can i delete a symboliclink?
[07:17] <chelz> damnbadluck: boot to the 9.10 disc, mount your filesystem, and get the files you want back
[07:17] <chelz> Yvier6: it is like any other file. you can either move it to the trash in gnome's nautilus or do "rm file". in your case "rm drupal"
[07:18] <tom-v415> iflema: just plugged it in, and wired is working..
[07:18] <chelz> damnbadluck: then probably the easiest is to reinstall ubuntu
[07:18] <Artanis00> How do you set folder icons like the default home folder places that respect changing the theme? If I just set the icon from the folder's properties menu the icon doesn't change to new themes.
[07:18] <replic8tor> how do you block an ip from accessing ubuntu? I tried command iptables but it doesnt exist.
[07:18] <chelz> tom-v415: in ifconfig were you getting assigned an IP?
[07:18] <tom-v415> chelz: but what's changed is not too much..I copied over all my settings from a previous install so I updated /home/myname with lots of files
[07:18] <Artanis00> damnbadluck: Though you sould chroot into the old install and reinstall mount
[07:19] <haffe> replic8tor: I would install firestarter and build a firewall rule.
[07:19] <iflema> tom-v415 what did you do? :) did you update... change anything... too many changes?
[07:19] <damnbadluck> chelz: im trying to boot to it, but anytime i try to either install or boot from disc, the disc drive speeds up and then nothing happens, i have to ctrl+alt+del to make the system respond, do you have any suggestions?
[07:19] <Artanis00> damnbadluck: um, sould -> could
[07:19] <tucemiux> replic8tor, do you have a router at home?
[07:19] <replic8tor> is firestarter console?
[07:19] <replic8tor> I do have a router yes.
[07:19] <tomatoes7> my sound sucks ass on my pc
[07:19] <tucemiux> replic8tor, you can try blocking the IP in the router
[07:19] <haffe> replic8tor: No, it's a gui.
[07:20] <chelz> damnbadluck: you could try checking your BIOS settings to make sure it tries booting to a CD before the hard drive. you could also try burning another install CD
[07:20] <tomatoes7> i get some like weird feedback sound
[07:20] <damnbadluck> Artanis00: "chroot" from command line?
[07:20] <damnbadluck> chelz: ill check that then.
[07:20] <chelz> damnbadluck: you can use chroot to fix your system if you remember the exact command you did to break it
[07:20] <tucemiux> tomatoes7, youre recording using the mic?
[07:20] <tom-v415> iflema: here's the BEFORE (i plugged in wire) ifconifg: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7556d1b2
[07:20] <tomatoes7> no
[07:20] <chelz> damnbadluck: well actually you could check your ~/.bash_history if you get your fs mounted
[07:21] <damnbadluck> chelz: the exact command was "sudo apt-get remove mount"
[07:21] <tucemiux> tomatoes7, you get feedback just by listening to music or stuff?
[07:21] <Artanis00> damnbadluck: it's kinda complicated, but it's possible to access the installed environment within the liveCD through the command line
[07:21] <replic8tor> What non gui app should I try if not firestarter?
[07:21] <tomatoes7> yeah
[07:21] <chelz> damnbadluck: if you get booted to a livecd chrooting is an option
[07:21] <tomatoes7> its like a loud farting chopper
[07:21] <iflema> tom-v415 two network interfaces.... i wanted that info before to save you moving between machines..... it does not help now
[07:22] <tucemiux> it's your computer, some computers have that problem, i have that problem on windows but on ubuntu it sounds fine
[07:22] <Artanis00> damnbadluck: From there you should be able to use apt-get to install mount again
[07:22] <replic8tor> firestarter is just a frontend to iptables yea?
[07:22] <tom-v415> iflema: now that I've got a connection, I've put both ifconfig outputs up in that same link.
[07:22] <tomatoes7> tucemiux, well i figure i need different drivers
[07:22] <Viper1432> yes replic8tor , but its a very nice frontend.
[07:22] <tomatoes7> its never had problems when i run windows
[07:22] <tom-v415> iflema: what do you look at in that output, lots of stuff to parse there. (in ifconfig )
[07:22] <damnbadluck> chelz: ok so my disc drive is set to first position to boot from, and i have no other discs i can use for another copy of ubuntu. how long should i wait after choosing the boot from disc option before it responds?
[07:23] <replic8tor> Its a server, doesnt run X>
[07:23] <gokturk_> #ubuntu-tr
[07:23] <Artanis00> damnbadluck: I have a blog post here that I refer to when I nuke my installs, detailing how to chroot into the installed environment from a LiveCD: http://artanis00.blogspot.com/2009/08/getting-sources-source-keys-and-package.html
[07:23] <damnbadluck> Artanis00: ok, well i suppose thisll be a lot easier when i can get the CD to boot properly.
[07:23] <chelz> damnbadluck: don't select boot from disk. select "try out ubuntu"
[07:23] <tucemiux> tomatoes7, or it could also be the sound card
[07:24] <tucemiux> it could also be pulseaudio though i doubt it, I suggest you check the forum or launchpad
[07:24] <tomatoes7> the sound card works fine in windows
[07:24] <damnbadluck> chelz: yea, thats what i meant :P
[07:24] <Artanis00> damnbadluck: I didn't realize you couldn't get into the LiveCD either...
[07:24] <chelz> damnbadluck: do you have any usb flash sticks/drives around that you can format?
[07:25] <chelz> damnbadluck: if your system can boot to a usb device, you can install ubuntu on one of them with UNetbootin
[07:26] <damnbadluck> chelz: no i dont actually :P
[07:26] <damnbadluck> chelz: how long should the system take to respond when i use the "try ubuntu" option?
[07:26] <tom-v415> chelz: oops, thought the same url would show my updated pastebin... here's the update ifconfig, with both wireless only (not working) and wired: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2cc1e5e
[07:27] <Artanis00> damnbadluck: It can take a while
[07:27] <chelz> damnbadluck: as long as the CD drive is active and whirring, then it's doing its job
[07:27] <chelz> damnbadluck: an ipod or other many kinds of mp3 players can be used also
[07:27] <damnbadluck> Artanis00, chelz: ok then, ill check back in in a few minutes
[07:28] <tomatoes7> my ubuntu is acting like windows....slow
[07:28] <Artanis00> chelz: *note to self* boot a computer to Ubuntu off an iPod for laughs.
[07:28] <iflema> tom-v415 its basically useless... and that link has the wireless connected only.
[07:28] <chelz> Artanis00: it works great :)
[07:28] <Artanis00> chelz: I'll need to acquire an iPod. which work best?
[07:28] <tom-v415> chelz: the second pastbin?  Should have a before and after ..
[07:28] <chelz> Artanis00: anything gen 5.5 and before
[07:28] <tom-v415> chelz: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2cc1e5e
[07:28] <tomatoes7> that'd be the best way to get flash working on an ipod
[07:28] <hyperstream> tomatoes7, time for a hardware upgrade, 486's dont cut it these days, :P
[07:29] <chelz> tom-v415: yeah eh well you have an IP. what happens when you disable and reenable your network connection from network manager?
[07:30] <[BT]Brendan> I just did an rsync command and someone completely deleted my website. any idea how to recover the files?
[07:30] <[BT]Brendan> somehow*
[07:30] <tom-v415> chelz: where is the network manager ?
[07:30] <chelz> [BT]Brendan: do you have physical access to the machine?
[07:31] <hyperstream> [BT]Brendan, lol, on your pc or on another pc?
[07:31] <[BT]Brendan> my local copy
[07:31] <brontosaurusrex> what is the procedure to share a printer? in karmic?
[07:31] <brontosaurusrex> on the lan i mean
[07:31] <hyperstream> [BT]Brendan, you synced with a blank destination ?
[07:31] <hyperstream> !samba | brontosaurusrex
[07:31] <chelz> tom-v415: http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3585/screenshot1yw.png - upper right
[07:31] <[BT]Brendan> no i think it synchronised backwards to the way i was intending
[07:32] <pingfloyd> [BT]Brendan: is that "someone" you?
[07:32] <tom-v415> chelz: how you do that so fast?
[07:32] <hyperstream> pingfloyd, he said somehow
[07:32] <chelz> [BT]Brendan: do you have a copy of the site somewhere or did you delete your only copy?
[07:32] <hyperstream> pingfloyd, corrected himself :)
[07:32] <tom-v415> chelz: :-)
[07:32] <[BT]Brendan> i meant somehow
[07:32] <chelz> tom-v415: i found it, i didn't make it ;)
[07:32] <brontosaurusrex> hyperstream: where is cups here? where is rmb clickin on the printer and selecting share?
[07:32] <[BT]Brendan> weird typing error
[07:32]  * iflema :)
[07:32] <[BT]Brendan> i just deleted the only copy
[07:32] <[BT]Brendan> whilst trying to make another copy, lol
[07:33] <pingfloyd> ironic
[07:33] <chelz> [BT]Brendan: so the copy was local?
[07:33] <[BT]Brendan> yes
[07:33] <hyperstream> !cups | brontosaurusrex
[07:33] <pingfloyd> trying to backup something and it destroys what you're trying to backup
[07:33] <opp_> test
[07:33] <lars_bauer> name off program to unzip *.bz2 files ?
[07:33] <chelz> [BT]Brendan: if you can, turn off the machine forcefully with the drive in it. as in hold down power
[07:34] <pingfloyd> I'll usually mount as ro when I try to backup
[07:34] <chelz> [BT]Brendan: were you using ext3?
[07:34] <[BT]Brendan> If i do that I can't exactly talk in irc
[07:34]  * iflema :|
[07:34] <[BT]Brendan> yeah i believe so
[07:34] <pingfloyd> for that reason and also to avoid consistency issues
[07:34] <hyperstream> [BT]Brendan, the longer its on, the less chance of recovery
[07:34] <[BT]Brendan> or 4
[07:34] <damnbadluck> chelz: the disc wasnt doing anything, im trying to do "check disc for defects" but thats not responding either.
[07:34] <[BT]Brendan> what ever the default is when installing ubuntu
[07:34] <chelz> [BT]Brendan: the longer a machine is on gives it more time to write to a disk and overwrite the data you want to recover
[07:34] <tom-v415> chelz: no luck disconnect and reconnect same behaviour.  How come both before/after ifconfi have eth0, eth1 and lo?  thought there would be more when wired network was on..
[07:34] <pingfloyd> it's easy to make a mistake with rsync or tar etc.
[07:35] <[BT]Brendan> ok but i need to know what to do after i power off
[07:35] <hyperstream> [BT]Brendan,  you really need to get on another pc
[07:35] <chelz> tom-v415: there is more. eth0 is ethernet and eth1 is wireless
[07:35] <[BT]Brendan> ok
[07:35] <[BT]Brendan> back soon
[07:35] <hyperstream> :)
[07:35] <hyperstream> and he's gone lol
[07:35] <chelz> damnbadluck: can your machine boot to usb devices?
[07:36] <chelz> damnbadluck: if it can i would suggest getting an inexpensive flashdrive for under $20 to work off of
[07:36] <Artanis00> chelz: pretty sure he said he can't...
[07:36] <tom-v415> chelz: very odd, I'm chatting using the same network (different computer) on that wireless network.. and ubuntu shows a good connection, but can't see anything on it.
[07:36] <chelz> Artanis00: i thought he said he didn't have any
[07:36] <chelz> tom-v415: on the computer you are chatting on, if you try pinging the computer having issues, what happens?
[07:37] <Artanis00> chelz: he did. yeah.
[07:37] <damnbadluck> chelz: im trying to work with limited resources, my location, coupled with poor timing have left me unemployed for the past year. i have to use what i have.
[07:38] <chelz> damnbadluck: ah hmm. well both reinstalling and chrooting require booting to some kind of live environment.
[07:38] <chelz> tom-v415: "ping 192.168.2.55"
[07:38] <rww> lars_bauer: bunzip2
[07:38] <lars_bauer> rww, thx
[07:38] <chelz> tom-v415: try right clicking on the network manager and hitting something that says disable
[07:38] <tom-v415> chelz: just did that and it worked.. (with ethernet wire in)
[07:38] <hyperstream> damnbadluck, is this for a laptop?
[07:39] <damnbadluck> chelz: i just realized, i do however have many spare hard drives, and a usb adapter.
[07:39] <chelz> tom-v415: try without the ethernet wire
[07:39] <rww> lars_bauer: If it's a .tar.bz2 file, use `tar -xjf /path/to/file.tar.bz2` instead
[07:39] <damnbadluck> hyperstream: no, but almost as difficult, a slimline pc
[07:39] <chelz> damnbadluck: that would work fine, if by usb adapter you mean an external enclosure
[07:39] <tom-v415> chelz:  just did... no luck ping request times out.
[07:39] <lars_bauer> rww, even greater thx :O)
[07:40] <damnbadluck> chelz: i mean there is a power plug to molex cord and a usb to IDE cord, no enclosure, but i use it for storage.
[07:40] <damnbadluck> chelz: same difference i suppose.
[07:40] <chelz> damnbadluck: ah alright. heh sounds like it'll work
[07:41] <damnbadluck> chelz: how can i work with it then? what should i do?
[07:41] <chelz> tom-v415: hmm how long did the wireless work for? and did anything happen just before it stopped working?
[07:41] <chelz> damnbadluck: plug it in like a usb flashdrive and install ubuntu to it using Unetbootin
[07:41] <Artanis00> damnbadluck: probably just use the flash drive boot instructions on it
[07:41] <Artanis00> or that
[07:42] <damnbadluck> chelz: "Unetbootin" ? im using a windows system right now since the system with ubuntu obviously isnt working :P
[07:42] <tom-v415> chelz: it worked most of the day... Let me see how it does from a liveCD boot.  Can't think of what might have messed it up.  I'm just updating the box, so I did install openssl lib.. but that worked.. and ssh was working
[07:42] <Artanis00> damnbadluck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[07:42] <damnbadluck> chelz: googling./
[07:43] <chelz> tom-v415: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide - try going through the steps hree
[07:43] <chelz> damnbadluck: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ - button at the top
[07:44] <tom-v415> chelz: thanks I'll do that. :-)
[07:44] <gokturk_> #pardus
[07:44]  * iflema bing... bring on bong
[07:44] <tom-v415> chelz: then bed time for this bonzo.  thanks for your help
[07:44] <chelz> damnbadluck: if you already have an ubuntu iso around you can use that instead of downloading a new one
[07:44] <chelz> tom-v415: hope your problem gets resolved. good night. ;)
[07:44] <gokturk_> #ubuntu-tr
[07:44] <chelz> :)*
[07:44] <tom-v415> iflema: thanks to you as well. G'night :-)
[07:44]  * iflema snoogens
[07:46] <[BT]Brendan_> OkI'm back
[07:46] <opp> Is this Ubuntu-CN?
[07:46] <chelz> [BT]Brendan_: welcome back
[07:46] <chelz> opp: /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:46] <[BT]Brendan_> Thanks
[07:47] <[BT]Brendan_> I just remembered that teh files are on a ntfs partition
[07:47] <damnbadluck> chelz: i most likely need to reboot since my HDD isnt showing up when plugged in via usb, ill be back
[07:47] <chelz> [BT]Brendan_: ah, that's important information
[07:48]  * iflema :|
[07:48] <hyperstream> iflema, need something ? :P
[07:48] <[BT]Brendan_> and also that because the rsync command has worked in reverse, my new files have been over written by old ones.
[07:48] <iflema> hyperstream dont get me started
[07:49] <hyperstream> iflema, well if you have an issue this is the place to state it :)
[07:49] <iflema> hyperstream your local... ill come over and bash ya...
[07:49] <chelz> [BT]Brendan_: if you have another drive of somekind around, i suggest making a copy of the drive with the deleted files on it to those other drive(s), then working on the copies
[07:49] <chelz> [BT]Brendan_: there are a variety of tools: http://www.google.com/search?q=recover+ntfs+files
[07:49] <hyperstream> iflema, bit off topic ?
[07:49] <[BT]Brendan_> Heh I think I might just start again
[07:49] <hyperstream> !e-thug | iflema
[07:49] <hyperstream> damn need to add that one :P
[07:50] <chelz> [BT]Brendan_: if that's an option you could do that. from here on out employing a regular backup schedule might be a good idea. you can automate it by adding an entry to ubuntu's cron
[07:50] <hyperstream> iflema, so whats the problem ?
[07:50] <hyperstream> iflema, couldnt see anything scrolling up ;/
[07:50] <iflema> hyperstream like i said dont get me started its offtopic and so is this
[07:50] <[BT]Brendan_> Yeah I've got some hard drives in the mail
[07:51] <[BT]Brendan_> cron?
[07:51] <[BT]Brendan_> I've always just tried using rsync for all backup/copy like things
[07:51] <hyperstream> iflema, :P
[07:51] <chelz> [BT]Brendan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[07:51]  * iflema :P
[07:52] <[BT]Brendan_> Ok thanks.,
[07:53] <iflema> hyperstream grep ya logs its easier... ;P
[07:53] <Saxon> Dude out of nowhere, my sound on 9.10 has gone crap... can I get some assist?
[07:53] <chelz> Saxon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[07:55] <damnbadluck> chelz: do you know much about windows issues? my hard drive is showing up in device manager but not in windows explorer
[07:56] <Quan-Time> damnbadluck: what file system is it, and what version of windows ?
[07:56] <chelz> damnbadluck: "To format the drive in Windows 2000 or XP, right-click on My Computer and go to “Manage”. In the window that comes up, click Disk Management in the left pane. Once it loads, you should see an “Initialize Disk” wizard pop up. "
[07:57] <damnbadluck> chelz: oooooh ok thanks, i was in the device manager tab of the pane
[07:57] <damnbadluck> quan-time, idk file system, im running XP on this pc
[07:58] <brontosaurusrex> q2: what is the unmount command?
[07:58] <a> he temba its a
[07:59] <ayiez> alooo
[07:59] <chelz> brontosaurusrex: umount
[07:59] <Quan-Time> damnbadluck: usually NTFS.. just curious if it was a linux disjk you were trying to mount.. cos it will throw errors and kill your drive
[08:00] <chelz> Quan-Time: he's using a drive as something to install ubuntu to then boot off of to recover a borked 9.10 install
[08:00] <Quan-Time> kk np
[08:06] <chelz> quiet :(
[08:07] <chelz> you'd think out of 1.2k people there'd be some questions needing answering
[08:07] <puppy> haha
[08:07] <Quan-Time> im glad there isnt !
[08:07] <puppy> very ture
[08:07] <Quan-Time> its normally a mah house in here
[08:07] <puppy> man im bored
[08:07] <chelz> haha
[08:07] <chelz> i like the rush of helping 5 people at once
[08:07] <chelz> mental workout
[08:07] <Quan-Time> you have 10 fish.. 5 drown, and 3 come back to life.. how many fish do you have ?
[08:07] <Quan-Time> mental work out.. HARHARH
[08:07] <puppy> damn sounds hard lol
[08:08] <Flannel> Guys take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[08:08] <Viper1432> 10.  dead or alive you still have fish.  :D
[08:08] <Quan-Time> fish cant drown ;)
[08:08] <Quan-Time> aaaand now we resume our normal programming.. cheers flannel :)
[08:08] <devrethman> How is it that after like 8 years of trying to make linux more user friendly, nobody has figured out how to prevent sound card locking?
[08:09] <HammerHead66> chaz: are u the one that helped me before?
[08:09] <chelz> HammerHead66: yep
[08:09] <puppy> my sound card never works
[08:09] <chelz> devrethman: they have. newer OSS handles it well and alsa does it fine
[08:09] <Viper1432> funny, mine always works.
[08:09] <chelz> puppy: try harder :P
[08:09] <chelz> HammerHead66: is flash having issues?
[08:10] <devrethman> Chelz: Really, then how is it that using the latest version of the most user friendly distro, Youtube can still shut MPD down?
[08:10] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: I am able to see the flash but when I try to watch something on hulu.com it tells me that my player it not up to date
[08:10] <puppy> works fine under win7 but under linux after sleep no good
[08:10] <devrethman> I have to sit here and /etc/init.d/mpd restart over and over again until it finally picks it up
[08:10] <devrethman> and once it has, half my other apps stop making sound.
[08:10] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: I did sudo apt-get update   and also upgrade
[08:11] <puppy> i just want my music to play lol
[08:11] <chelz> devrethman: eh well there's still a ways to go. sometimes manual tweaking is still necessary
[08:11] <chelz> HammerHead66: ah alright, well do sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[08:11] <chelz> HammerHead66: we're going to need to install a newer version
[08:12] <devrethman> Yeah, I know, but from the impression that I've had, making ALSA work without "manual tweaking" has been in development longer then Duke Nukem Forever.
[08:12] <devrethman> which makes me a sad panda.
[08:12] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: ok removed
[08:12] <beruic> Does anyone know how to control the size of password symbols in dialogs? Mine are very small.
[08:13] <puppy> sad panda lol
[08:13] <chelz> HammerHead66: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ - go here and get the "http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/"
[08:13] <devrethman> beruic: Mine are really big. Want to trade?
[08:13] <beruic> Yes please :)
[08:13] <chelz> HammerHead66: then either open it when firefox asks you to save it, or save it then doubleclick it
[08:13] <devrethman> Okay, just a sec.
[08:13] <EliasAmaral> 'password symbols'?
[08:14] <damnbadluck> chelz: unetbootin is processing and installing on the USB drive. will let you know how it goes.
[08:14] <chelz> perhaps he means black dots
[08:14] <EliasAmaral> you meant those dots when you enter a character?
[08:14] <chelz> damnbadluck: sounds good
[08:14] <devrethman> ●●●●●●●●●●●●●●●
[08:14] <EliasAmaral> they are huge here
[08:14] <beruic> EliasAmaral: yes, those dots
[08:14] <devrethman> Put those in your password boxes.
[08:14] <EliasAmaral> you want them even more bigger?
[08:14] <EliasAmaral> (gtk2/gnome here)
[08:14] <chelz> beruic: do you mean on the login screen?
[08:14] <beruic> Mine are very small in both login and gksudo
[08:14] <EliasAmaral> i guess every system with the ubuntu's default font will have the same char
[08:14] <devrethman> Mine are also cyan, so you might want to do something like that.
[08:14] <devrethman> *something about that.
[08:15] <chelz> devrethman: depends on your soundcard. it's probably a good idea to google around every so often to see what the latest is in the linux world. a lot of times just a bit of tweaking can fix things.
[08:15] <EliasAmaral> maybe you are using a nonstandard font beruic
[08:15] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz:  error: wrong arch 'i386' Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[08:15] <HammerHead66> This package will download the Flash Player from Adobe. It is a Netscape/Mozilla type plugin. Any browser based on Netscape or Mozilla can use the Flash plugin. This package officially supports the following browsers:
[08:15] <HammerHead66> Firefox 2.x, Firefox 3.x, SeaMonkey 1.11
[08:15] <chelz> HammerHead66: ah ok, sorry about that, one sec
[08:15] <devrethman> chelz: Yeah, I know how it works, I've been using various forms of linux/oss/alsa for years, I just don't have time to tweak with it anymore >.< I was hoping coming here from Gentoo would eliminate such things.
[08:16] <beruic> So no one has any ideas?
[08:16] <devrethman> Although I have to give you guys props, it took me about a minute and a half to configure twinview last week.
[08:16] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: ok
[08:17] <devrethman> beruic: I think those symbols are part of the system font. You could try changing it in Menu -> system->prefs -> appearance
[08:17] <devrethman> but that would change the font for everything else, too. I don't know of a way to make specific things like that larger or smaller.
[08:17] <beruic> devrethman: What font do you use?
[08:17] <devrethman> All of them are set to "sans"
[08:18] <devrethman> and fixed width is Monospace.
[08:18] <beruic> My last two are sans bold and monospace
[08:18] <beruic> window titles are sans bold
[08:18] <beruic> but all are size 10. What are yours?
[08:18] <devrethman> I've done quite a bit of screwing around with my theme, so I dunno, I may have changed something somewhere that I forgot about.
[08:18] <devrethman> 10 also.
[08:19] <chelz> HammerHead66: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html
[08:19] <damnbadluck> chelz: whats error 17?
[08:20] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: k
[08:20] <devrethman> They finally made a 64 bit flash player O_o
[08:20] <devrethman> when did that happen?
[08:21] <chelz> devrethman: very recently heh
[08:21] <Myrtti> devrethman: last summer, but it's alpha
[08:21] <chelz> i've heard it's stable enough for most users. stable as flash ever really is.
[08:21] <chelz> damnbadluck: when did you get that error?
[08:22] <damnbadluck> just now, after trying to boot via usb
[08:22] <damnbadluck> chelz: ^^
[08:22] <devrethman> in my experience, flash is about as stable as the stuff I made with Duplo when I was very small. It usually gets noscripted.
[08:22] <devrethman> I'm just impressed that adobe has finally gotten their heads out of thei--- errmmm. you know where this is going.
[08:22] <chelz> i use chromium for flash stuff, and browse regularly with firefox and noscript
[08:23] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: now that I've downloaded it, extracted, what now?
[08:23] <devrethman> chromium?
[08:23] <chelz> well i'm still waiting for hardware accelerated video playback on linux
[08:23] <chelz> google chrome's oss project. has an ubuntu ppa
[08:23] <devrethman> hasn't mplayer had that for quite awhile?
[08:23] <damnbadluck> chelz: what do i do?
[08:23] <Myrtti> oh sorry, year ago in november
[08:23] <chelz> devrethman: no, it's needed by the flash plugin
[08:24] <hackiolegaro> Hello Ubuntu
[08:24] <chelz> damnbadluck: if you're sure it's trying to boot to the drive, try reformatting it and doing a unetbootin install again. that's a grub error of somekind
[08:24] <devrethman> oh, hardware accelerated flash video? Cause I know I got hardware accelerated H264 working last summer.
[08:24] <damnbadluck> chelz: ok
[08:24] <chelz> devrethman: yeah i have h264 and all that
[08:24] <devrethman> at least I thought I did.
[08:25] <chelz> HammerHead66: in a terminal do: cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[08:25] <devrethman> well, when I did it it was only in the SVN and you had to use a bunch of wierd options
[08:25] <[BT]Brendan> I wish deleting things with the command line would sent them to the recycle bin.
[08:25] <dandaman> when grub loads for me i have like 5 versions of ubuntu, i always use the first but i'm wondering what the other 4 are for
[08:25] <devrethman> I think it was lik -vdapau=on or something like that.
[08:25] <devrethman> dandaman: Old kernels, in case it updates to a kernel that does not work, you'll be able to get into the old ones to fix it.
[08:25] <rww> dandaman: old kernel versions, probably
[08:25] <chelz> [BT]Brendan: there are tools that do that, just not the default ones. *nixes expect people to have backups
[08:26] <dandaman> devrethman: so i should always be loading from the one on top, right?
[08:26] <devrethman> Although while we're on the subject, is it possible to make those automatically disappear when they're more than 2 versions old?
[08:26] <devrethman> or something
[08:27] <devrethman> dandaman: You should generally be loading the one with the highest version number. On mine they end up on the top usually
[08:27] <chelz> devrethman: that does sound like a good feature. i haven't heard of anything existing that does that though
[08:27] <dandaman> what's a kernel?
[08:27] <dandaman> i figure i should know these things if im a CS major
[08:27] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: returned : permission denied
[08:27] <devrethman> hahaha. Kernel is like... the thing at the center of the OS that does all the low-level stuff
[08:27] <devrethman> if it's working right, you will never notice it.
[08:28] <puppy> its the heart
[08:28] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: cannot create regular file
[08:28] <Quan-Time> dandaman: kernel is a bit of corn... OR its the major reliant factor of literally every computer OS... know how windows 95 and 98 are hugely the same ? its got the same kernel.. etc.. hope that helps
[08:28] <devrethman> chelz: I tried screwith with grub.conf in ubuntu once, and it was full of comments and strange foriegn things with names like 'AUTOMAGIC' so I left.
[08:29] <dandaman> Quan-Time: still doesnt really explain what a kernel is :\
[08:29] <chelz> HammerHead66: sudo cp
[08:29] <devrethman> It's the low-level. It interfaces between hardware and software and does things like memory management and driver management.
[08:29] <chelz> devrethman: menu.lst makes sense to me since i have experience with it, but the grub2 stuff i still need to learn
[08:29] <Quan-Time> dandaman: umm... ok.. a kernel has the basis of how things interact.. ie: how a mouse interfaces with the screen.. all via software. the kernel is the "core" software.. im sure theres a wiki on it..
[08:30] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: did it but did not ask for password
[08:30] <chelz> dandaman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computing%29
[08:30] <chelz> HammerHead66: you only have to enter your password every 15min i think for sudo
[08:30] <dandaman> kk
[08:30] <Quan-Time> dandaman: major kernel updates include new "standards" for hardware, driver sets, etc..
[08:30] <devrethman> I wrote my own menu.lst when I used gentoo, but here there's all sorts of extra stuff that I'm worried will set it on fire if I screw with. Grub errors are almost as annoying as wet socks, so I avoid them.
[08:30] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: O.. ok
[08:30] <dandaman> i remember for an internship interview i didnt get the interviewer asked me to write a kernel for unix
[08:30] <dandaman> is that really realy hard?
[08:30] <Quan-Time> dandaman: and for the record, im not a computer tech. nor involved in the computer industry..
[08:30] <dandaman> because it sounded hard when he first asked me :\
[08:31] <chelz> dandaman: a popular exercise for CS-types is to write their own kernel
[08:31] <devrethman> Yeah, that's kind of rediculously hard.
[08:31] <Quan-Time> dandaman: yes.. "writing" a kernel is HUGE.. but making a custom kernel is possible.. if you dont know what a kernel is, then its stupidly hard
[08:31] <devrethman> It is? Nobody told me O_o Perhaps I'm in the wrong major
[08:31] <chelz> HammerHead66: then you might need to restart firefox. but that should do it
[08:31] <Quan-Time> devrethman: oh dear...
[08:31] <chelz> HammerHead66: if you ever want to update flash, just go to adobe's site and hunt for the 64bit flash tar.gz and copy it into the same place
[08:31] <devrethman> I thought I was cool cause I wrote a BASH script that splits PDFs in half vertically
[08:32] <Quan-Time> devrethman: can you drive a car ?
[08:32] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: ok thanks
[08:32] <chelz> devrethman: well a simple kernel, not one that follows all the unix standards
[08:32] <devrethman> Yeah, a simple kernel is possible. Writing a kernel that implements UNIX is... not so much.
[08:33] <devrethman> well, I'm sure it's possible, but it is not something I would do with my free time
[08:33] <devrethman> Quan-Time: Yes... why?
[08:34] <Quan-Time> dandaman: can you drive a car ? its like that with CS... you learn over time.. you need correct teaching.. like doing anything.. with time @ college, you will learn the skill set needed..
[08:36] <eva> join /#ncczona
[08:37] <kejtsitakua> hey! is anybody in theree??!!
[08:37] <kejtsitakua> xD
[08:37] <devrethman> I have become comfortably numb.
[08:37] <puppy> yup talking about tastie kernels
[08:37] <kejtsitakua> anyway.. i got some troubles with xubuntu on my hp2133 =(
[08:38] <tomatoes7> i'm getting super frustrated
[08:38] <puppy> whats the issue?
[08:38] <kejtsitakua> u know all windows seem to not work good
[08:38] <chelz> kejtsitakua: #ubuntu-es might also help
[08:38] <kejtsitakua> sorry about my english.. this is not my real language xD
[08:38] <devrethman> No, windows does generally not work good. That's why we're here.
[08:39] <kejtsitakua> so i can not do nothin about it??
[08:39] <devrethman> Well, what's the problem?
[08:39] <kejtsitakua> i mean i tried live version and works all fine
[08:39] <chelz> kejtsitakua: state your problem
[08:39] <puppy> seems like a theme issue
[08:40] <tomatoes7> i removed ALSA drivers to replace them with OSS, now i'm trying to revert the process
[08:40] <tomatoes7> i need to bang my head against a wall!
[08:40] <kejtsitakua> omg
[08:40] <devrethman> tomatoes7: Banging your head on the wall and dealing with linux sound drivers is more or less the same thing.
[08:40] <puppy> i just gave up on my sound drivers lol
[08:40] <Tartarus1> what is latest version of linux kernel right now
[08:40] <devrethman> check kernel.org
[08:41] <kejtsitakua> how can i know that?
[08:41] <tomatoes7> maybe i'll commit suicide
[08:41] <ikonia> Tartarus1: for ubuntu 2.6.31
[08:41] <kejtsitakua> im new in this
[08:41] <kejtsitakua> xD
[08:41] <ikonia> tomatoes7: please stop messing around
[08:41] <puppy> 17
[08:41] <tomatoes7> nah...i'll just use windows
[08:41] <ikonia> tomatoes7: ok - do that then
[08:41] <devrethman> Same thing.
[08:41] <chelz> tomatoes7: you get stronger through struggles
[08:41] <tomatoes7> i hope so
[08:41] <tomatoes7> cause i'm really really weak
[08:41] <devrethman> Chelz: By that logic, let's all head over to #gentoo
[08:42] <kejtsitakua> so xubuntu is the only one that does that??
[08:42] <chelz> devrethman: well ok some struggles kill you
[08:42] <kejtsitakua> i tried ubuntu before.. worked good
[08:42] <devrethman> chelz: lol
[08:42] <puppy> im using xubuntu
[08:42] <chelz> kejtsitakua: what do you want to do? what isn't working?
[08:42] <puppy> but no sound
[08:42] <chelz> kejtsitakua: if you want to chat there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:43] <kejtsitakua> chelz: the problem here is all windows dont work good
[08:43] <kejtsitakua> they just stay at the same position.. i cant move them
[08:43] <puppy> explain like, are they locking up or missing buttons
[08:43] <puppy> hummm
[08:44] <mneptok> kejtsitakua: what is your native language? you might try that loco chanel for better comprehension.
[08:44] <chelz> kejtsitakua: try #ubuntu-es
[08:44] <puppy> how about the whole pc? is it slowing down when the windows lock up
[08:44] <kejtsitakua> ok ok .. i will
[08:44] <kejtsitakua> thanks
[08:46] <VectorX> hello i need to run a command, "sudo modprobe wl"  at the terminal when i start the os, how can i have that start on boot ?
[08:46] <VectorX> or is there a better way to do it
[08:46] <mirkosina> hello i want to ask you why i can not enable visual effect
[08:46] <mirkosina> i use ubuntu 9.10
[08:46] <llutz> VectorX: add "wl" to /etc/modules
[08:47] <chelz> VectorX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102961
[08:47] <ikonia> mirkosina: what video card do you have
[08:47] <mirkosina> ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series
[08:47] <tomoyuki28jp> What's the easiest way to send email from ubuntu client machine?
[08:47] <ikonia> mirkosina: the ati / xorg interaction is known to be poor and the support for them is non-standard. Make sure you're using the best xorg drivers you can
[08:47] <ikonia> !ati > mirkosina
[08:47] <llutz> tomoyuki28jp: mailx + ssmtp
[08:48] <ikonia> tomoyuki28jp: pick an email client (thunderbird/evolution/etc) and use it to send email,
[08:50] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: ok I'm still having a problem. I went to the download center and downloaded flash version 10.0.42.34  ... But when I go to hulu.com it said," requires flash player 10.0.22 or higher
[08:50] <infid> what's the difference between a hardlink and just cp'ing a file?
[08:50] <titan_ark> Hey. i am facing trouble with power management. everytime my notebook recovers from sleep powermanagement indicates that there is no battery
[08:50] <mirkosina> ikonia im install ubuntu 9.10 last month and i can enable this visual effect
[08:50] <VectorX> ok thanks, i am also trying to see if i can access my vista machine and vice versa, both computers are connected to the router, but somehow dont show up, i have enabled remote desktop etc, and samba sharing on the ubuntu, and sharing on the vista but cant see anything
[08:50] <mirkosina> but i turn it off...
[08:50] <ikonia> mirkosina: that doesn't change what I said
[08:50] <chelz> HammerHead66: did you restart your browser?
[08:51] <mirkosina> ok
[08:51] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: yes
[08:51] <ikonia> HammerHead66: did you restart your browser
[08:51] <ikonia> chelz: sorry - lagging behind you
[08:51] <anli_> There should be a way to install 32-bit firefox using synaptic, should there not?
[08:51] <chelz> HammerHead66: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html is this working?
[08:51] <ikonia> anli_: no,
[08:51] <chelz> ikonia: np. you are providing some good answers.
[08:51] <HammerHead66> ﻿ chelz: think maybe it could be my firewall?
[08:52] <devrethman> anli_: i don't see why.
[08:52] <ikonia> HammerHead66: no, that comes over http
[08:52] <papul> can i install ubunu on a pendrive?
[08:52] <ikonia> papul: yes
[08:52] <ikonia> !install > papul
[08:52] <anli_> devrethman: Because 64-bit firefox is not supported by firebug
[08:52] <chelz> HammerHead66: no
[08:52] <ikonia> anli_: yes it is
[08:52] <chelz> HammerHead66: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html - try this and make sure it's stating flash is working
[08:52] <anli_> ikonia: No
[08:52] <papul> i mean if i do apt-get install mpd than the mpd must install on the pen drive and the next time i boot mpd must be available
[08:53] <anli_> ikonia: If you with support means that the browser is closing immediately, then yes
[08:53] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: ok checking
[08:53] <chelz> ikonia: is there a trigger list somewhere?
[08:53] <ikonia> anli_: it's on my screen working fine
[08:53] <ikonia> !ubottu > chelz
[08:53] <ikonia> chelz: check that out
[08:53] <youcef> hello
[08:54] <anli_> ikonia: 1.5.0?
[08:54] <ikonia> anli_: yes
[08:54] <titan_ark> anyone? power management tool issues???
[08:54] <ikonia> anli_: unless you see a note saying "not supported" don't make things up
[08:54] <youcef> hi all how are you???
[08:54] <anli_> ikonia: But there are several bug reports which I did not make up
[08:54] <om26er> !hi | youcef
[08:54] <ikonia> youcef: all well, welcome to #ubuntu, this channel is for support questions
[08:54] <youcef> i have question?
[08:54] <ikonia> anli_: bug reports are not "not supported"
[08:55] <anli_> ikonia: No, but if the bug reports tells that there is no support, I use to rely on them, but I will rely on you from now on
[08:55] <youcef> there are viruses for ubuntu ?
[08:55] <infid> i'm using gnome-do's Twitter plugin and it pops up a notification bubble whenever someone tweets. Is there a way to click on the bubble to launch it into my browser before it disappears?
[08:55] <llutz> youcef: other malware, no virusses
[08:55] <mattyh> hi
[08:55] <ikonia> anli_: if it's not supported the author puts a note on saying "not supported on 64bit"
[08:55] <anli_> hm
[08:56] <youcef> ok thats dangerous?
[08:56] <anli_> ok
[08:56] <scottj> I have some code in ~/.Xmodmap that remaps right alt to a super key and it works but if I hibernate then when I resume the key is back to being an alt. any ideas?
[08:56] <llutz> youcef: sure
[08:56] <mattyh> anyone who knows why I cant write to #qemu irc say's cannot send to channel ?
[08:56] <ikonia> scottj: daemons probably not waking up post hibernate
[08:56] <ikonia> scottj: few bugs in apps do that after hibernate
[08:56] <youcef> what that can do for my computer?
[08:56] <anli_> ikonia: So I do not see the same behavior as a lot of other users? Or to be constructive, what shall I do?
[08:56] <ikonia> !register > mattyh
[08:56] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: it said," no suitable plugins were found."
[08:56] <chelz> infid: asking the gnome-do people would be better than here
[08:56] <scottj> ikonia: but xmodmap isn't running as a daemon I don't think
[08:57] <anli_> ikonia: Shall I ignore the bug report fix that says that I shall install a 32-bit firefox
[08:57] <ikonia> scottj: no, but there is a keyboard deamon that picks up the changes
[08:57] <infid> k
[08:57] <ikonia> anli_: it's up to you what you'd do, personally I think "install 32bit" is a weak fix unless there is a confirmed bug
[08:57] <titan_ark> ikonia: any idea on the powerdevil daemon?
[08:57] <ikonia> titan_ark: in what respect ?
[08:58] <anli_> ikonia: http://blog.getfirebug.com/2010/01/19/64-bit-firefox-on-linux-crashes-with-firebug-1-5-0/
[08:58] <titan_ark> everytime my notebook recovers from sleep powermanagement indicates that there is no battery
[08:58] <anli_> ikonia: They cant have seen your screen
[08:58] <chelz> HammerHead66: in a terminal do:  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[08:58] <chelz> HammerHead66: then restart your browser and try to visit http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html
[08:58] <tomatoes7> great...now i have no sound at all
[08:58] <ikonia> anli_: what does "about" version say in firefox
[08:59] <anli_> ikonia: Must check, please wait
[08:59] <ikonia> titan_ark: ahh, I've seen that reported many times too
[08:59] <ikonia> titan_ark: check launchpad for a bug report on that
[08:59] <titan_ark> ikonia: i tried, couldnt find anything. shall try again. thx
[08:59] <ikonia> titan_ark: you're not alone with that, I've seen that reported many times
[09:00] <titan_ark> ikonia: okay
[09:00] <anli_> ikonia: About for firefox itself sais version 3.5.6, ubuntu canonical 1.0
[09:00] <titan_ark> thank you
[09:00] <anli_> mozilla/5.0 (X11: U: Linux x86 64:
[09:00] <ikonia> anli_: update to e3.5.7
[09:00] <ikonia> anli_: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[09:01] <anli_> ikonia: 9.10, I think
[09:01] <ikonia> anli_: show me "uname -a" - lets check
[09:01] <Omar87_> Sorry for this extremely n00bish question, but what's the command for creating new users?
[09:01] <slowlearner> hi is there a program i can use to install ubuntu from windows? I'm looking at something like wubi but install of installing it on a windows partition it starts a real ubuntu install.
[09:01] <ikonia> Omar87_: useradd - or use the gui
[09:01] <anli_> ikonia: Linux plutten 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:01] <slowlearner> *but instead
[09:02] <ikonia> slowlearner: not really
[09:02] <ikonia> anli_: great that looks like 9.10
[09:02] <ikonia> anli_: do an system update and it should update firefox to  3.5.7 which is current
[09:02] <ikonia> anli_: (and what I'm using without issue)
[09:02] <anli_> ikonia: Must try
[09:02] <chelz> slowlearner: wubi
[09:02] <chelz> wait is wubi not working for 9.10?
[09:02] <ikonia> chelz: he doesn't want to use wubi
[09:02] <chelz> i never know what the latest ver of ubuntu wubi supports
[09:02] <chelz> oh
[09:03] <HammerHead66> ﻿ ﻿chelz: ok it seem to be working now but  hulu.com is said," unable to stream this video. please check your enternet connection and try again.
[09:03] <chelz> HammerHead66: try a youtube video or two, to make sure it's working
[09:03] <HammerHead66> ok
[09:03] <anli_> ikonia: I try apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:03] <chelz> HammerHead66: for the record, running 64bit makes using proprietary stuff like flash tough
[09:04] <otoady> I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.1 ... I have no volume icon in the upper right corner ... how can I get it back ... I have no sound preferences ... should I .. I can't get into users and groups ... nothing happens when I click the make changes place ... I have to login 6 or 7 times before gnome starts successfully ...  I did not get grub-pc in the upgrade, but through apt-get ... help, please ...
[09:06] <anli_> ikonia: I would be very greatful if this solves the problem
[09:06] <ikonia> anli_: we can hope
[09:06] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: video is good but no sound.
[09:08] <chelz> HammerHead66: alright, is that not working? do you want to try installing it another way?
[09:08] <HammerHead66> ok
[09:08] <airtonix> question about networkmanagers ICS features : i currently have my netbook set to dhcp connect to my desktop(which is having two NICs, eth0 is outwards to the router which hits the WAN, and eth1 is inward and set to "shared to computers" in networkManager)... from my netbook I can access the apache server on my desktop but not google
[09:09] <chelz> HammerHead66: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-10-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html - follow the commands under "For 64 bit Users"
[09:09] <meowbuntu> Hi ho how it go everyone
[09:09] <titan_ark> ikonia: i could only come up to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453963
[09:09] <ikonia> airtonix: you need your need something to act as a router out to the internet
[09:09] <titan_ark> i am quite a n00b
[09:09] <ikonia> titan_ark: just reading
[09:09] <titan_ark> would appreciate the help
[09:09] <titan_ark> ikonia: i thank you
[09:10] <ikonia> titan_ark: that looks like it could be a similar problem/bug to you
[09:10] <VectorX> how do i reset the smb.conf file to its defaults ?
[09:10] <airtonix> ikonia, yep this is the function i desire my desktop to fullfil. and it does most of what i expect however I can;t seem to get past the desktop and out onto the internet when using the netbook
[09:10] <titan_ark> ikonia: yeah.
[09:10] <ikonia> airtonix: what are you using on the desktop as a router ?
[09:10] <retry> VectorX, ipkg-configure
[09:10] <ikonia> titan_ark: I'm sorry to say it looks like a kernel bug that "should" be fixed in the next ubuntu release......
[09:10] <retry> there's a flag to reconfigure to default
[09:10] <retry> type man ipkg-configure
[09:11] <titan_ark> ikonia: i can see the mention of my notebook model. but what is the solution. seems to not make sense to me.
[09:11] <ikonia> retry: dpkg ?
[09:11] <retry> oh yeah!
[09:11] <ikonia> titan_ark: ahhh so you are even using that notebook, ok, so I'd be confident that that is the problem then
[09:11] <retry> ha I've been messing about with my pre :D
[09:11] <ikonia> titan_ark: well found
[09:11] <retry> so I was in ipkg mode
[09:11] <airtonix> ikonia, traditionally i would use firestarters ICS features, however now i;m using the gnome networkManager to do it, im connecting from the netbook to the desktop via ethernet cable
[09:11] <titan_ark> ikonia: yes i own a HP dv4t 1400
[09:11] <ikonia> airtonix: gnomenetworkmanager is not routing software or ip forwarders
[09:11] <ikonia> titan_ark: ok, so that's the bug then
[09:12] <retry> VectorX, dpkg-reconfigure
[09:12] <airtonix> ikonia, this (http://jeremy.visser.name/2009/03/24/simple-internet-connection-sharing-with-networkmanager/) leads me to believe otherwise
[09:12] <titan_ark> ikonia: yes, but i cant seem to comprehend the solution. except that the test kernel has been patched
[09:12] <VectorX> retry do i need to specify anything else
[09:12] <retry> VectorX, yes the argument is the package yo uwant to reconfigure
[09:12] <retry> so whatever samba is called
[09:13] <retry> is it smb or just samba?
[09:13] <ikonia> titan_ark: so you need to wait for that patched kernel to be released to ubuntu
[09:13] <VectorX> samba i think
[09:13] <airtonix> retry, amb is an acronym : small message block
[09:13] <airtonix> retry, smb*
[09:13] <meowbuntu> Hi all
[09:13] <retry> airtonix, it's also samba
[09:14] <airtonix> retry, :) which is a name inspired by the protocol name
[09:14] <titan_ark> ikonia: ah okay. i remember when i was using a wubi install and facing some other issues, someone had given me a link to a vanilla kernel, if i am not mistaken this was also solved by the vanilla kernel
[09:14] <retry> right
[09:15] <ikonia> airtonix: that guide won't fly in my view unless the machine you are using is automatically setup as a router/forwader, because all gnome-network-manger is doing is telling your card to advertise it's self for incoming dns lookups with dns-masq
[09:15] <anli_> ikonia: hm, with 3.5.7, it is the same, if I try to open the firebug console, the browser closes
[09:15] <ikonia> anli_: there clearly is a bug there - but only for selected configurations
[09:16] <otoady> I'm tired.  the cd writer won't recognize media either ... tomorrow
[09:16] <airtonix> ikonia, firestarter ICS features do more than gnomes network manager then ? (because i have used firestarter to do the whole thing from dns server and forwarding)
[09:16] <ikonia> airtonix: look down the list and the ammount of people having to alerter routes and the like
[09:16] <anli_> ikonia: ok, so how do I install a 32-bit firefox?
[09:16] <ikonia> airtonix: yes, firestarter is a full on firewall that can do forwarding
[09:16] <anli_> ikonia: Has to be made by hand, I suppose?
[09:16] <ikonia> anli_: you'll have to pull that from the firefox site I'm afraid
[09:16] <anli_> ok
[09:17] <ikonia> anli_: have you tried removing firebug, restarting the browser, confirming it works then re-installing firebug
[09:17] <ikonia> anli_: the new browser may benifit from a new install of firebug
[09:17] <airtonix> ikonia, thanks for the clarification
[09:17] <ikonia> anli_: also did anything else get updated with firefox ?
[09:18] <ikonia> anli_: need to pop out now, but I'd strongly advise a clean firebug install and a reboot to make sure all your updates took effect
[09:18] <anli_> ikonia: When I opened the firefox window, no suggestions to update the plugins were made, but I uninstalled firebug and installed it
[09:20] <anli_> ikonia: thx
[09:20] <lhb> hi all
[09:21] <lhb> is there known issues/solutions regarding dell gx280 and ubuntu 9.x
[09:21] <Crippler> Hi is md5sum reliable to check for data corruption on 1tb files cloned/transferred to new harddisk
[09:21] <lhb> the install disk just freeze
[09:22] <titan_ark> ikonia: seems like i can rebuild my kernel with the patch.
[09:22] <Myrtti> lhb: which disk are you using, live or alternate?
[09:22] <titan_ark> need to figure out how to do that
[09:22] <Myrtti> lhb: and where did it freeze, partition or graphics detection?
[09:22] <lhb> i have done all the disk checks/memory checks
[09:22] <INDUS> lhb, when live cd comes to the options screen, press f6 and remove quiet and splash and see where its freezing
[09:23] <lhb> ubuntu 8.10 installed like a charm, apt-get upgraded to 9.04 and bang... it froze after 3 minutes
[09:23] <Sacho> How can I modify the positioning of the panels in gnome, 9.04
[09:24] <indus> lhb, could you answer Myrtti's question , are you using live cd or alternate
[09:24] <lhb> indus: live
[09:24] <Myrtti> lhb: do you even get to desktop?
[09:24] <ouyes> Sacho, it is simple, just click right button of your mouse select "Move"
[09:25] <lhb> Myrtti: i started the installer straigt, didnt go to the live cd desktop
[09:25] <brokepunk> learning... websites to investigate?
[09:25] <Myrtti> lhb: did you get to the graphical interface?
[09:25] <Myrtti> brokepunk: learning what?
[09:26] <Sacho> ouyes: I can't right click the ...whatever it's called, because there are panels over it.
[09:26] <lhb> Myrtti: of the installer, yes
[09:26] <Sacho> I only get the options for them.
[09:26] <brokepunk> been working with linux for 4 days...
[09:26] <Sacho> I want to move the strip on the top with applications/places/system/etc on the right
[09:26] <c_nick> how to open file roller with root
[09:26] <titan_ark> could someone help me add this patch to my kernel? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453963
[09:26] <Myrtti> lhb: at what point did it freeze then?
[09:26] <brokepunk> been working with scripting, networking, sysadmin...
[09:26] <indus> Sacho, just dragand drop it to a panel on the right
[09:26] <titan_ark> would appreciate the help!
[09:26] <spywareBOT> http://proxy.spywarelan.se Swedish high speed webproxy!
[09:26] <indus> Sacho, right click and unlock it first
[09:27] <lhb> Myrtti: while copying the files, mostly but actually all over
[09:27] <c_nick> got it ..i remembered
[09:27] <c_nick> :d
[09:27] <brokepunk> currently having problems with a script I have been working on
[09:27] <ouyes> Sacho, move your mouser on the panel and then right click the mouser and select "Move"
[09:27] <Myrtti> brokepunk: it would greatly help if you'd try to keep your question to one line
[09:27] <HammerHead66> chelz: I have sound. Thank you for all the hand holding.
[09:27] <HammerHead66> :-D
[09:27] <Sacho> ouyes: I can't select move.
[09:27] <keux> algum brasileiro(a)?
[09:27] <spywareBOT> http://proxy.spywarelan.se Swedish high speed webproxy!
[09:27] <lhb> Myrtti: the point is, i could install 8.10 and dist-upgrade to 9.02 and then the same happened on the desktop there, after about 5 mins
[09:27] <ouyes> Sacho,  why?
[09:27] <brokepunk> ok... cannot get permissions to .gvfs from root...
[09:28] <brokepunk> by the by... ty you in advance
[09:28] <Sacho> Because it's greyed out?
[09:28] <indus> Sacho, because under move option , its locked to panel
[09:28] <Sacho> Okay, but I don't want to move this panel, I want to move the one it's on :|
[09:28] <brokepunk> i can show you the script I am having issues with
[09:28] <indus> Sacho, ?
[09:28] <keux> alguém que fale português?
[09:28] <ouyes> Sacho,  where is the panel you want to move?
[09:29] <HammerHead66>  ﻿chelz: check this out   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_UGFLT0VMY
[09:29] <lhb> Myrtti: on ubuntyforums some persons asked about the same but the aswers are not relevant
[09:29] <brokepunk> and tell you steps I have tried to correct the issue
[09:29] <Sacho> The line.
[09:29] <Sacho> On which you have applications, places, system.
[09:29] <Sacho> And also the switch user/shutdown panel.
[09:29] <brokepunk> still there myrtti?
[09:29] <Sacho> I want to move it from the top, to the right.
[09:29] <indus> Sacho, you want to move that panel completely?
[09:29] <chelz> HammerHead66: is huly working?
[09:29] <Sacho> ...yes
[09:29] <chelz> HammerHead66: also hulu
[09:29] <brokepunk> ...new to irc too
[09:30] <ouyes> Sacho,  i am sure i can just click the right button
[09:30] <indus> Sacho, just right click on it somewherer and select orientation right
[09:30] <indus> Sacho, i have noticed too, now you cant just drag and drop
[09:30] <ouyes> Sacho, are you a left-handed?
[09:30] <Sacho> ouyes: Don't be condescending
[09:30] <Sacho> indus: There is no free space on the panel, anywhere I click I get one of the panels that are on it
[09:30] <indus> Sacho, if you have middle mouse button, you can drag and move it to right
[09:31] <brokepunk> also have questions about tor
[09:31] <indus> Sacho, now now isnt that easy, you remove a few things then
[09:31] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: no hulu is not working it said," Express install not supported."
[09:31] <brokepunk> silence?
[09:31] <Myrtti> mmm, coffee
[09:31] <Sacho> indus: so I have to remove several panels, move the underlying one, and then reattach them?
[09:31] <|_ocke> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1u43KDiWD0&feature=related
[09:31] <Sacho> There has to be an actually sane solution
[09:31] <indus> Sacho, just remove the notification applet , which will clear a lot of space\
[09:31] <Myrtti> |_ocke: how is that relevant to the Ubuntu support?
[09:31] <ouyes> Sacho,  sorry for my poor english , but what do you mean by "Don't be condescending"?
[09:32] <brokepunk> can anyone here help with scripting questions?
[09:32] <retry> what sort of scripting?
[09:32] <indus> brokepunk, please try in #bash
[09:32] <brokepunk> bash
[09:32] <|_ocke> Myrtti, i dunno, i just really like it
[09:32] <brokepunk> i am
[09:32] <indus> Myrtti, what type of coffee
[09:32] <retry> brokepunk, i can help with bash
[09:32] <|_ocke> it works on ubuntu though
[09:33] <spywareBOT> http://proxy.spywarelan.se Swedish high speed webproxy!
[09:34] <brokepunk> #!/bin/bash
[09:34] <brokepunk> # systeminfo - A script to produce an HTML file with system info.
[09:34] <brokepunk> ##### Constants
[09:34] <brokepunk> TITLE="System Information for $HOSTNAME"
[09:34] <brokepunk> RIGHT_NOW=$(date +"%x %r %Z")
[09:34] <FloodBot2> brokepunk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:34] <brokepunk> TIME_STAMP="Updated on $RIGHT_NOW by $USER"
[09:34] <indus> aahh lost con
[09:34] <ouyes> where is the conky configuration file?
[09:34] <spywareBOT> http://proxy.spywarelan.se Swedish high speed webproxy!
[09:35] <pingfloyd> quit spamming spywareBOT
[09:35] <indus> !spam
[09:35] <indus> !testagain > indus
[09:35] <Sheepherd_> hi all... ive just read through http://nedbatchelder.com/text/exceptions-in-the-rainforest.html
[09:36] <indus> Sheepherd_, whats it about
[09:36] <Sheepherd_> now my question is what exactly status return's are... i only know very basic C++ so thats why i dont understand that
[09:36] <|_ocke> nobody in here likes aesop rock? :(
[09:36] <zvacet> !packages
[09:36] <zvacet> !list
[09:36] <chelz> HammerHead66: you could try installing hulu desktop
[09:37] <indus> Sheepherd_, you are looking for the #c++ room
[09:37] <Myrtti> brokepunk: please use pastebin?
[09:37] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: what is that?
[09:37] <kjelle> Hello. I am using fakeroot to build some debian packages. When I use dpkg-buildpackage, the packages are automatically signed. How do I do that with fakeroot?
[09:37] <Myrtti> |_ocke: please keep the offtopic elsewhere
[09:37] <quibbler> ouyes-> in your home directory, but you have to set view hidden files ...it is .conkyrc
[09:37] <chelz> HammerHead66: http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux
[09:37] <Leoneof> i used Storage Device Manager and changed some properties in partitions, now my partitions wont ask about password and everyone can access it, how to make it as default like before?
[09:38] <|_ocke> :P sorry
[09:38] <chelz> HammerHead66: you'd want "Ubuntu  	64-bit"
[09:38] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: ok
[09:38] <Sheepherd_> indus, well im not actually interested in C++ but rather in the whole exceptions thing, but ill go ask there anyways
[09:38] <brokepunk> is it like tinyurl?
[09:38] <indus> !paste | brokepunk
[09:39] <Sheepherd_> oh wtf... wrong channel xD sry guys
[09:39] <ouyes> quibbler,  there is any ouyes and last+found directory
[09:39] <Sheepherd_> was supposed to write in #python :D
[09:39] <indus> Sheepherd_, python
[09:39] <indus> Sheepherd_, ok
[09:39] <brokepunk> ty ubottu
[09:40] <burkey> has anyone got a vnc viewer vino pre compiled for ubuntu 8.04 that does scaling
[09:40] <quibbler> ouyes->  look in ouyes (that is your home directory)
[09:40] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: is this going to make it like the TV channels were I can't watch what I want when I want?
[09:41] <kjelle> I figured it out: dpkg-buildpackage -sgpg -r'fakeroot debian/rules'
[09:41] <ouyes> quibbler,  what is the name of the file??
[09:41] <chelz> HammerHead66: it's like a mini browser (like firefox) that only browses hulu
[09:41] <quibbler> ouyes-> .conkyrc
[09:41] <gheddy_zarc> what is python for ? Im trying to load this usb modem app that has all these python dependencies ? googgle brings up a zillion pages none of which have managed to explain python yet eh
[09:42] <indus> gheddy_zarc, its a programming language
[09:42] <chelz> gheddy_zarc: python is like c, c++, perl, java, etc
[09:42] <richi_> hi
[09:42] <indus> gheddy_zarc, its installed by default on most linux distros
[09:43] <Omar87> Hi
[09:43] <brokepunk> ok.. I used that link, copied my code...
[09:43] <chelz> !hi | richi_
[09:43] <chelz> !hi | Omar87
[09:43] <brokepunk> now how do people view?
[09:43] <ouyes> quibbler, there is none
[09:43] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: O .. ok. well I don't need another browser. But thanks for letting me about it.
[09:43] <chelz> brokepunk: paste the *link* here
[09:43] <indus> brokepunk, you need to copy the url and paste it here
[09:43] <gheddy_zarc> hm ok thanks indus & chelz,, any idea why this app would have python dependencies ?? its for getting a mobile modem going eh in 9.04
[09:43] <brokepunk> its in the ubuntu pastebin
[09:43] <chelz> HammerHead66: it might make hulu work. try it
[09:43] <brokepunk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/368769/
[09:43] <brokepunk> you guys are rad...
[09:43] <chelz> gheddy_zarc: if it says it needs it, it does
[09:43] <brokepunk> ty for your patience
[09:43] <indus> gheddy_zarc, because the app is written in that way with python libraries in source code
[09:44] <pingfloyd> gheddy_zarc: because it probably uses python to accomplish certain things
[09:44] <|_ocke> um. does anyone in here use joy2key?
[09:44] <indus> gheddy_zarc, or maybe completely in python , anyways , if you install from synaptic the dependencies are automatically taken care of
[09:44] <brokepunk> so the problem I am having is with the home_space function
[09:44] <quibbler> ouyes-> in nautilus press Ctrl+H and you will see the hidden files .conkyrc is a hidden file
[09:44] <brokepunk> su needs to run it, but .gvfs will now allow
[09:45] <retry> brokepunk, where's the prob?
[09:45] <gheddy_zarc> yeah i miss synaptic
[09:45] <chelz> |_ocke: what's the issue?
[09:45] <indus> gheddy_zarc, dont you have that package in synaptic
[09:45] <retry> if [ "$interactive" = "1" ];
[09:45] <brokepunk> from what I read it is a fuse issue....
[09:45] <retry> this is wrong
[09:45] <|_ocke> chelz, i don't know how to set it up so i can use emulators with it
[09:45] <brokepunk> not sure what fuse is yet...
[09:45] <indus> !nick > brokepunk
[09:45] <brokepunk> google is unclear
[09:45] <|_ocke> i want to set up an .rc file for it
[09:45] <Info> cv gsd
[09:45] <ouyes> as usual, my ubuntu will automatically mount the ntfs partition of my hard drive, but now i can not find the partition,how to make ubuntu automatically mount my ntfs partition just like a usb hd?
[09:45] <retry> if [ "x$interactive" -eq "x1" ];
[09:46] <brokepunk> how?
[09:46] <retry> use that
[09:46] <|_ocke> but i don't know the syntax
[09:46] <Info> hallo
[09:46] <retry> actually -eq is for integers
[09:46] <indus> !who | brokepunk
[09:46] <chelz> |_ocke: look for a manual or documentation in that project
[09:46] <retry> use ==
[09:46] <|_ocke> the man page doesn't explain it at all
[09:46] <gheddy_zarc> the pc is not connected to the web so synaptic is no use, Ive downloaded all the files onto a usb stick from an xp box but can I use synaptic to install those ? I didnt think so , I thought I had to do it manually eh
[09:46] <brokepunk> !ubottu>agreed...
[09:46] <chelz> ouyes: was the ntfs partition created before or after you install ubuntu?
[09:46] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: thank you again for all of your help
[09:46] <brokepunk> !ubottu> as such?
[09:46] <ouyes> chelz, before
[09:46] <indus> gheddy_zarc, hmm maybe you can add the usb as a repo
[09:47] <indus> gheddy_zarc, try adding
[09:47] <chelz> HammerHead66: is hulu desktop working?
[09:47] <ouyes> chelz,  i am using xfce(xubuntu)
[09:47] <Myrtti> gheddy_zarc: there's a function in synaptic, for making a list of software you need to download to a usb stick or similar
[09:47] <chelz> ouyes: it should be in the list of devices that can be mounted
[09:47] <indus> gheddy_zarc, nah sorry not possible
[09:47] <ouyes> chelz,  where?
[09:47] <indus> Myrtti, yes?
[09:47] <brokepunk> ubotto: or like this
[09:47] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: I don't want to download from hulu.com
[09:47] <chelz> gheddy_zarc: is there a way to connect it to the internet?
[09:47] <ouyes> chelz, it is  not there in the Places?
[09:48] <brokepunk> ubottu: or like this
[09:48] <Info> hallo
[09:48] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: I can wait til they catch up to everyone else
[09:48] <gheddy_zarc> ah wow an it will search the usb stick for all the .debs or tar files etc that I ve got on it eh indus ?
[09:48] <chelz> HammerHead66: oh. alright. it's worked pretty well for me. one thing you might try is getting a 32bit ubuntu livecd and trying to watch hulu on it. if it works you could switch to 32bit
[09:48] <brokepunk> great...
[09:48] <ouyes> Info, english channel
[09:48] <indus> gheddy_zarc, well i thought its for cd roms only
[09:48] <retry> gheddy_zarc, you can use dpkg to manually install the packages
[09:48] <meowbuntu> anyone here use facebook i got a question
[09:48] <gheddy_zarc> mm I can burn it to cd from xp
[09:49] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: the hole point of 64-bit chips are to use them as such. why would I go back down to 32-bit
[09:49] <brokepunk> looks like I need to read up on irc.. before i can seek help from people on irc...
[09:49] <pingfloyd> meowbuntu: just ask the question
[09:49] <gheddy_zarc> yeah I was using dpkg I had some success but then all the python dependecies errored out for 30 lil applets and the install broke lol
[09:49] <ouyes> brokepunk, just ask your questions
[09:50] <retry> gheddy_zarc, too bad
[09:50] <retry> brokepunk, i told you how to fix that interactive if block in your script
[09:50] <gheddy_zarc> mm Im close retry eh,, a few more goes and it will work I think
[09:50] <Leoneof> hi, i used Storage Device Manager and changed some properties in partitions, now my partitions wont ask about password, and everyone can access it, how to make it as default like before?
[09:50] <brokepunk> I have been working on http://paste.ubuntu.com/368769/ this script
[09:50] <retry> gheddy_zarc, just keep at it with dpkg
[09:50] <retry> brokepunk, yeah I saw it
[09:50] <indus> gheddy_zarc, not sure , ask Myrtti
[09:51] <retry> i saw teh comment that says this part is broken
[09:51] <chelz> HammerHead66: because some things don't work :P
[09:51] <brokepunk> it works... but the home_space function requires su access
[09:51] <retry> and it's your if statement...one = is assignment not comparison
[09:51] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: I can tell that flash 10 is getting really good. the images are so clear!
[09:51] <chelz> heh perhaps
[09:51] <meowbuntu> ok in facebook i have a notifaction area that has been pinned on top of the webbage. how can i remove it
[09:51] <gheddy_zarc> mm I have a list of the erros now so I think 	 need to install the python applets in the order the erros appeared eh,, thats my next plan eh retry
[09:51] <brokepunk> when trying that... it gets access denied to .gvfs
[09:51] <retry> gheddy_zarc, sounds about right
[09:51] <brokepunk> tried to chmod 777 .gvfs ... now dice
[09:52] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: yeah, but the ones that do are great
[09:52] <brokepunk> tried to unmount .gvfs chmod 777 mount...
[09:52] <retry> all your if statements are wrong
[09:52] <missing> i want to change gnome main menubar's background,somebody have any ideas?
[09:52] <brokepunk> cannot find in /etc/fstab
[09:52] <retry> you're assigning which is evaling to true always
[09:52] <chelz> alright then
[09:52] <ouyes> how to manually mount a ntfs partition of a hard drive?
[09:52] <brokepunk> dont understand why I cannot change permissions to this...
[09:53] <brokepunk> is it just a virtual link?
[09:53] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: == means comparison operator = means assignment operator
[09:53] <brokepunk> please expand...
[09:53] <retry> he aint listening ping...he's on about something else
[09:53] <brokepunk> very new
[09:53] <Info> bla
[09:53] <retry> pretty sure he lifted 90% of that script
[09:53] <brokepunk> retry... listening...
[09:53] <chelz> ouyes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB - read this entire page
[09:54] <brokepunk> I did... it is from a tutorial..
[09:54] <brokepunk> i am trying to learn...
[09:54] <retry> change the = to == in your if statements
[09:54] <brokepunk> do not want to proceed til I get this
[09:54] <retry> first thing
[09:54] <meowbuntu> so noone here uses facebook i take it
[09:54] <pingfloyd> I wouldn't bother trying to learn from whoever wrote that
[09:54] <damnbadluck> can someone help me fix my mount? the other night someone here told me to run "sudo apt-get remove mount" and it f-ed up my whole system. i just got ubuntu running on the disc, someone told me i could use something to fix it so i dont lose my stuff? with a chroot comand or something?
[09:54] <retry> pingfloyd, yeah no doubt
[09:54] <chelz> brokepunk: you might just have to run your script as admin
[09:54] <pingfloyd> they don't know what they're doing
[09:54] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: this isn't facebook support?
[09:55] <chelz> damnbadluck: hey!
[09:55] <brokepunk> so change = "1000" to == "1000" >
[09:55] <damnbadluck> chelz: hey
[09:55] <chelz> damnbadluck: wb guy, any luck with the unetbootin?
[09:55] <brokepunk> chelz... that is the prob
[09:55] <retry> is that eve ncalling those functions?
[09:55] <pingfloyd> that's like taking painting lessons from a blind person
[09:55] <retry> those are variables not function calls
[09:55] <brokepunk> you need to run azs admin to get the du command to work correct...
[09:55] <meowbuntu> facebook support on irc is dead even though there is lots of ppl logged in
[09:55] <damnbadluck> chelz: nope, tried it a few times. but i found a disc that boots.
[09:55] <brokepunk> but root has no access to the user .gvfs
[09:55] <chelz> damnbadluck: awesome, that can work just fine
[09:55] <retry> brokepunk, no you need to be root to read home dirs that arne't your own
[09:55] <meowbuntu> pingfloyd, told me to ask about facebook
[09:56] <chelz> damnbadluck: are you booted to it?
[09:56] <ouyes> chelz, it is not usb drive, the ntfs partition is in the same hard drive as my ubuntu that i am running
[09:56] <damnbadluck> chelz: yea
[09:56] <retry> du works just fine for any user provided you're using it on dirs you have read perms on
[09:56] <chelz> damnbadluck: do you have your partition mounted?
[09:56] <brokepunk> the perms are the prob...
[09:56] <IP-v6> hi! i updated chromium-browser ppa:daily now it crashes when starting
[09:56] <damnbadluck> chelz: its a different distro though, i was running 9.10 before, this disc is hardy heron though i think
[09:56] <brokepunk> I cannot change them on .gvfs
[09:56] <pingfloyd> meowbuntu: no, I told you to ask your question and not beat around the bush
[09:56] <IP-v6> what can i do ?
[09:56] <retry> don't touch gvfs
[09:56] <brokepunk> triwed chgrp chown chmod
[09:56] <Myrtti> IP-v6: the dangers of using daily ppa
[09:56] <chelz> damnbadluck: that'll work
[09:56] <brokepunk> umount chmod
[09:56] <retry> that's gome's virtual filesystem db thingy
[09:57] <damnbadluck> chelz: no, im not sure how to. i just started working with linux last week
[09:57] <Myrtti> IP-v6: you do realise what daily ppa means, right?
[09:57] <brokepunk> like I said...4 days experience...
[09:57] <chelz> damnbadluck: ah alright
[09:57] <brokepunk> but still I think I tried all I can
[09:57] <IP-v6> chromium-browser daily repo
[09:57] <damnbadluck> chelz: i remember the gist, but i always forget the commands i need to do everything
[09:57] <chelz> damnbadluck: do "fdisk -l" in a terminal and try to figure out which /dev/xdan is your partition
[09:57] <mr-russ> how should kvm guests sync their clocks?
[09:57] <chelz> x being a letter and n being a number
[09:57] <Myrtti> IP-v6: it means that you get a daily snapshot of their development branch, which may break at any given moment.
[09:57] <chelz> mr-russ: ntp?
[09:58] <brokepunk> by the by... its a shame I feel mocked for trying to learn from people who dedicate their time to "helping others"
[09:58] <IP-v6> i know that
[09:58] <mr-russ> chelz: the ubuntu docs say no. don't use ntpd
[09:58] <chelz> mr-russ: you could run a local server for all of your guests
[09:58] <chelz> oh
[09:58] <kwork> damnbadluck,  get same version disc 9.10 and boot from it and chroot to your system and install the missing package
[09:58] <IP-v6> can i downgrade older version
[09:58] <mr-russ> chelz: and I have a lucid server that jumps forward 500 years :(  and everything stops working :(
[09:58] <Myrtti> IP-v6: not really. You can uninstall what you have and move to using stable chromium, or wait for unbroken update
[09:58] <damnbadluck> chelz: when i use "fdisk -l" nothing happens
[09:59] <kwork> damnbadluck, do it with root
[09:59] <damnbadluck> k
[09:59] <kwork> damnbadluck,  or thru sudo actualy
[09:59] <IP-v6> Myrtti, is there a repo for stable chromium ?
[09:59] <brokepunk> ill look for another forum... thank you all who tried to help....
[09:59] <Myrtti> IP-v6: I don't know, I've not looked into it, I use Chrome and Firefox
[09:59] <infid> how do you make 'find' ignore hidden files?
[10:00] <damnbadluck> chelz: "fdisk: invalid operation -- l"
[10:00] <IP-v6> chrome, google released version of chromium-browser ?
[10:00] <a_thoman> hallo ihr penner
[10:00] <Jimi_Neutral> my machine is pining others on the network but it wont go onto the web....the gateway is set, it worked yesterday but now it wont, any ideas?
[10:00] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: try #bash, but first make those changes given
[10:00] <chelz> damnbadluck: you did   fdisk dash l?
[10:00] <brokepunk> reset your router
[10:00] <Info> hallo
[10:00] <damnbadluck> chelz: yea
[10:00] <Jimi_Neutral> this one is on the same router
[10:00] <Myrtti> IP-v6: yup, they have
[10:00] <ardchoille> IP-v6: this is quite stable:  http://www.google.com/chrome/
[10:01] <Jimi_Neutral> and it is fine
[10:01] <a_thoman> volberg mach vigge
[10:01] <brokepunk> already tried the == ping...
[10:01] <brokepunk> and thank you,...
[10:01] <Info> hi
[10:01] <damnbadluck> chelz without the sudo command, it says nothing at all, when i use it with sudo it gives that error
[10:01] <greburzoltan74> Hi, can anyone help me: I nedd 2 mode for settings vi text editor to remain numbering, 1-st choice is editing ~.exrc and type: "set number", but I don't know other choice, help me pls ...
[10:01] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: if you're eager to learn, I recommend reading advanced bash scripting howto and the bash faq
[10:01] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: one of them is on tldp.org
[10:02] <brokepunk> from the several hours ive spent reading about this... it is a commen error on ubuntu 9.10 and deals with the fuse mount
[10:02] <Info> Hallß
[10:02] <chelz> damnbadluck: do  sudo fdisk --list
[10:02] <brokepunk> i have it bookmarked
[10:02] <brokepunk> ;(
[10:02] <G_A_C> does anyone know if there's an easy way of finding out what packages I've added to my system which aren't in a standard "out of the box" Karmic x64 Desktop setup?
[10:02] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: here's the other one to read http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
[10:02] <IP-v6> Myrtti, thanks. how does look fonts on firefox? Fonts  suck on firefox for me
[10:02] <brokepunk> i have no other interest in this then my hatred for all things ms
[10:03] <IP-v6> this is why i use chromium
[10:03] <brokepunk> i was a sysadmin for a ms network for over 10 years...
[10:03] <pingfloyd> that way you're learning from resources that know what they're doing
[10:03] <Myrtti> IP-v6: never had any problems
[10:03] <pingfloyd> instead of whoever originated that script, which clearly doesn't
[10:03] <brokepunk> bookmarked aswell...
[10:03] <brokepunk> ty
[10:03] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: you're welcome
[10:03] <chelz> damnbadluck: also system -> administration -> partition editor
[10:04] <IP-v6> Myrtti, interesting : ) thanks again
[10:04] <brokepunk> ill get back to you in a few months ping... when Im worth my salt...
[10:04] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: the FAQ is a very handy reference
[10:04] <ardchoille> IP-v6: did you install kde desktop?
[10:04] <IP-v6> no
[10:04] <b_volber_> aaaa
[10:04] <brokepunk> hopefully i wont be as cynical as some of the rest of these mods
[10:04] <damnbadluck> chelz: that said invalid operation too, but i went to the file browser and my HDD is listed there, under properties its listed as "computer:///" for location.
[10:04] <brokepunk> now to read the rules and conduct of irc...
[10:04] <b_volber_> kann mir mal jemand was schreiben
[10:05] <chelz> damnbadluck: do you see your files in it? in the "home" folder?
[10:05] <Sliss_> I virtualised my laptop hd. and not I cannot boot into it, as it cannit find the mounting point by-uuid. How to fix this? The laptop hd is now an lvm mount
[10:05] <Sliss_> s/not/now/
[10:05] <chelz> damnbadluck: if so, pastebin the output of "mount" in the terminal
[10:05] <lars_bauer> how to install wxpython ?
[10:05] <edogawa> b_volber_: blabla
[10:06] <damnbadluck> chelz: yes, and the partition manager lists the location as "/dev/sda1"
[10:06] <chelz> damnbadluck: ah good
[10:06] <brokepunk> is there a decent tor channel?
[10:06] <damnbadluck> chelz: i cant pastebin here, this is a different computer than the one im trying to fix.
[10:06] <llutz> brokepunk: #tor at oftc
[10:06] <brokepunk> something with people who can help with installation
[10:06] <chelz> damnbadluck: yeah that's fine if you're sure it's /dev/sda1
[10:07] <damnbadluck> chelz: yea it is
[10:07] <brokepunk> llutz: cheers!
[10:07] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: this might be what you're looking for http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[10:07] <chelz> damnbadluck: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt
[10:07] <brokepunk> pingfloyd: ty again sir!
[10:08] <damnbadluck> chelz: ok
[10:08] <chelz> damnbadluck: then   sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[10:08] <chelz> damnbadluck: then   sudo apt-get install mount
[10:08] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: you're welcome.  You have a good attitude.  That will help with your learning a lot.
[10:08] <rodrii> olaa
[10:09] <brokepunk> wpingfloyd: why be rude to strangers...
[10:09] <damnbadluck> "mount is already the newest version"
[10:09] <damnbadluck> chelz: did i do something wrong?
[10:09] <chelz> damnbadluck: did you do all of those in order?
[10:10] <meowbuntu> anyone here use facebook i got a question
[10:10] <brokepunk> thank you all and good night... to the white pages...
[10:10] <meowbuntu> ok in facebook i have a notifaction area that has been pinned on top of the webbage. how can i remove it
[10:10] <brokepunk> shot meow
[10:10] <ibqn> what package provides libstdc++.so.5, i can not install libstdc++5
[10:10] <chelz> lars_bauer: apt-get install python-wxgtk2.8 or apt-get install python-wxgtk2.6
[10:10] <damnbadluck> chelz: yes. after "sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash" nothing showed up in the terminal, just got a new command line though
[10:10] <brokepunk> meow: i imagine if you check your settings you will find it there
[10:11] <meowbuntu> brokepunk, ??????????
[10:11] <damnbadluck> chelz: the second command made me root
[10:11] <brokepunk> meow: I meant shoot...
[10:11] <ibqn> !find libstdc++
[10:11] <brokepunk> oops
[10:11] <cuco> hi all, can anyone tell me is there is a dedicated channel for wubi?
[10:11] <ibqn> !find libstdc++5
[10:11] <Muntrue> hi all
[10:11] <meowbuntu> brokepunk, have you heard of tabbing my name is not weow
[10:11] <brokepunk> sowwy
[10:11] <Akmens> which program do u suggest for disk check?
[10:11] <brokepunk> no, I have not
[10:12] <meowbuntu> * weow=meow
[10:12] <chelz> damnbadluck: each line i said is all one command, did you execute everything on each line?
[10:12] <brokepunk> what is tabbing?
[10:12] <brokepunk> im trying to follow conventions
[10:12] <jOZe> hello
[10:12] <brokepunk> but might mistype from time to time
[10:12] <damnbadluck> chelz: yes. each line you said i typed, triple checked, and then hit enter.
[10:13] <meowbuntu> brtype first few letters of persons nick then press tab untill name shows. meo <tab key>
[10:13] <meowbuntu> ^ brokepunk
[10:13] <brokepunk> lemme
[10:13] <chelz> damnbadluck: do and check the version: dpkg -s mount
[10:13] <brokepunk> try
[10:13] <chelz> damnbadluck: after "Version: "
[10:13] <brokepunk> meowbuntu,
[10:13] <brokepunk> aha
[10:13] <brokepunk> !
[10:14] <meowbuntu> yes woo hoo you got it brokepunk
[10:14] <brokepunk> slow but steady...
[10:14] <brokepunk> or just slow...
[10:14] <brokepunk> could be that 23 chromosome
[10:14] <meowbuntu> !tab
[10:14] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: your bash shell also has tab completion which you'll find very handy as well
[10:14] <damnbadluck> chelz: 2.16-lubuntu5
[10:15] <brokepunk> so... the only editor I really can use so far is pico..
[10:15] <chelz> damnbadluck: do        sudo apt-get install --reinstall mount
[10:15] <brokepunk> and it does not have line count...
[10:15] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: editors are a matter of preference
[10:15] <brokepunk> yeah... line count helps though...
[10:15] <brokepunk> gonna try emacs tomorrow
[10:15] <brokepunk> cannot get a handle on vim
[10:16] <lars_bauer> chelz, Great , bu it only install it fpr python3.0 then. I would like it to install on python2.6 ?
[10:16] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: I don't use pico much, but I think it might has an option hidden in there for that
[10:16] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: in vim there is vimtutor to get started
[10:16] <ibqn> what package provides libstdc++.so.5 ? i can not install libstdc++5
[10:16] <meowbuntu> hi how to request an unban on freenode
[10:16] <brokepunk> pingfloyd: good to know... will google tomorrow
[10:16] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: also nano has syntax highlighting these days
[10:17] <chelz> lars_bauer: apt-get install python2.6
[10:17] <brokepunk> pingfloyd: wasted an hour trying to move the cursor then edit, then move the curso again... no instant gratification there... Ill come back to it when I want bragging rights
[10:17] <meowbuntu> brokepunk, you can use /me to make it an action.
[10:17] <brokepunk> Ill have to apt-get nano
[10:17] <chelz> lars_bauer: then to launch python2.6 you have to do "python2.6" instead of "python"
[10:17] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: yeah, vi* has a high learning curve
[10:17] <lars_bauer> chelz, i alredy has python2.6 , but wx is not apart off it
[10:18]  * meowbuntu is feeling sad cant get facebook problem sorted 
[10:18] <la> laa
[10:18] <la> olaa
[10:18] <chelz> lars_bauer: wxpython2.8 should work with python2.6
[10:18] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: it has tons of functionality.  Personally I generally just use it for editing config files
[10:18] <brokepunk> pingfloyd: 4 days in... recently laid off, so almost 100 hours though,,,
[10:18] <damnbadluck2> chelz: http://pastebin.com/m357fdd65
[10:18] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: these days
[10:18] <la> olaa
[10:18] <meowbuntu> brokepunk, how new are you to linux
[10:18] <lars_bauer> chelz, okey , but import wx won't work
[10:18] <damnbadluck2> chelz: this bootable disk has internet working so i can pastebin now
[10:18] <lars_bauer> chelz, okey , but import wx.aui won't work
[10:18] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, 4 days in... used it a bit at nbc to set up turnstyles though
[10:19] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: I tend to waste time trying to remember how I did something slick in vim
[10:19] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, mostly just firmware update though
[10:19] <chelz> damnbadluck2: that's good. ok type "exit" to get out of the chroot
[10:19] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: there's all sorts of command in it that are very handle in very specific situations
[10:19] <lars_bauer> kick la
[10:19] <chelz> lars_bauer: you could try asking the pythonwx people, i'm not sure :(
[10:19] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: and those are the ones that are easy to forget since they're not used very often
[10:20] <meowbuntu> pingfloyd, right what you did down
[10:20] <damnbadluck2> chelz: ok, did you get the pastebin link?
[10:20] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, right now... im trying to tackle a few things...sysadmin... netadmin... security... shell scripting
[10:20] <chelz> damnbadluck2: yep, i saw
[10:20] <lars_bauer> chelz, thanks alot :O)
[10:20] <lars_bauer> chelz, ill try  that .
[10:20] <chelz> damnbadluck2: do:   sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/proc && sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[10:20] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, taking it in chunks.... building off one another
[10:20] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: I have a cheat sheet I made, but problem is that it becomes so huge that it takes time to find it in there
[10:20] <chelz> damnbadluck2: after exiting
[10:21] <damnbadluck2> chelz: ok. no visible output.
[10:21] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, hehehe.... yeah... i grabbed like 20 books from a friend that went to stanford...
[10:21] <chelz> damnbadluck2: ok now do    sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[10:21] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: there's certain things that you'll do frequently and those get remembered
[10:21] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, they all have these handy reference pages in the front...
[10:21] <chelz> damnbadluck2: and do        sudo apt-get install --reinstall mount
[10:22] <ierana> Hola, buenos dias
[10:22] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, i just want to get this .gvfsthing figured out
[10:22] <Pierreb> anyone know if its possible to install active x controls on firefox in ubuntu?
[10:22] <chelz> Pierreb: yes with internet explorer, ietab, and wine
[10:22] <Pierreb> meh
[10:22] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, i can move forward on the code... I even found a workaround that makes it all still work
[10:22] <chelz> Pierreb: http://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+activex+ubuntu
[10:22] <ierana> i have problems with the log in xubuntu
[10:22] <Pierreb> oh ietab going to try it
[10:23] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, changed the id -u to 1000 for my user... get all sorts of errors in the shell but still pushes data to the html page correct
[10:23] <damnbadluck2> http://pastebin.com/m5b6f9fe3
[10:23] <damnbadluck2> chelz: ^^
[10:23] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, just dont wanna move forward til I get this... ya know?
[10:23] <chelz> damnbadluck2: aha. did you install ubuntu 9.10 fresh or did you update another install?
[10:23] <ierana> can anyone help me?
[10:24] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, if you load that into your bin... it will work...
[10:24] <Oyoz> hi guys, i need help.is it possible mozilla thurnderbird connect 2 microsoft exchange server 2003?
[10:24] <damnbadluck2> chelz:  i upgraded. my original install disk was 6.04
[10:24] <Oyoz> if so how can i do it??
[10:24] <brokepunk> ierana, whats the prob?
[10:24] <Akmens> how to check hdd?
[10:25] <iNightcrow> Hiya
[10:25] <pingfloyd> ierana: just ask the question to the channel.
[10:25] <brokepunk> Oyoz, yes... is the exchange server allowing incoming requests from http?
[10:25] <damnbadluck2> chelz:  i think it must have worked that time, i didnt see any errors, did you check the paste?
[10:25] <ierana> when i log into xubuntu, i have to do it many times to access
[10:25] <chelz> damnbadluck2: yeah it worked but just in case that's not the cause of the problem i want to reinstall grub
[10:25] <damnbadluck2> chelz: ok
[10:25] <brokepunk> ierana, access what?
[10:25] <pingfloyd> ierana: to access what?
[10:25] <ierana> to xubuntu
[10:25] <brokepunk> ierana, like log in over and over again?
[10:25] <Akmens> please
[10:25] <Oyoz> yes
[10:25] <iNightcrow> My boss just called me and told me to do a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04 server on one of our machines, but makes sure to encrypt it in the install. I've never done that before, please can someone guide me?
[10:25] <chelz> damnbadluck2: well do you think you could get back into this live environment if you had to?
[10:25] <Akmens> someone
[10:26] <brokepunk> which version of exchange?
[10:26] <ierana> yes, brokepunk
[10:26] <damnbadluck2> chelz: yea, i think my other disks are just bad, thats why it took me so long to get it running before.
[10:26] <chelz> iNightcrow: use ubuntu alternate. it has an option to do a fully-automated encrypted install
[10:26] <pingfloyd> ierana: can you give an example?
[10:26] <brokepunk> Oyoz, which version of exchange?
[10:26] <Akmens> with what can i check my HDD?
[10:26] <brokepunk> Oyoz, firewall?
[10:26] <chelz> damnbadluck2: ah, well ok try rebooting. if it doesn't work then we'll go from there
[10:26] <Oyoz> i have an account on the exchange but mails cant flow 2 my mozilla inbox
[10:26] <iNightcrow> chelz: I cant do it with 9.04 server?
[10:26] <damnbadluck2> chelz:  ubuntu discs tend to be bad 75% of the time
[10:26] <chelz> iNightcrow: nope, it's just not on that disk.
[10:26] <damnbadluck2> chelz:  ok, brb
[10:27] <chelz> damnbadluck2: ah
[10:27] <Oyoz> 2003
[10:27] <iNightcrow> Ok, thank you.
[10:27] <Oyoz> yes
[10:27] <brokepunk> Oyoz, does it work with ie?
[10:27] <iNightcrow> chelz: Is it straight forward?
[10:27] <Oyoz> wat is ie?
[10:27] <brokepunk> Oyoz, what kind of firewall... software or hard?
[10:27] <Oyoz> :~
[10:28] <Oyoz> cisco firewall
[10:28] <brokepunk> Oyoz, trying to help... what does that mean...
[10:28] <ierana> when i log with my credentials, never access the first time
[10:28] <chelz> iNightcrow: look over the installation manual for the alternate disk. search for "encrypt" in it and you'll see how it's done
[10:28] <brokepunk> Oyoz, does it work with internet explorer?
[10:28] <Akmens> ?
[10:28] <iNightcrow> Ok, thank you chelz
[10:28] <ierana> and i have to do over and over again
[10:28] <Oyoz> yes, it does
[10:28] <iNightcrow> Last question, is it hard to do? :-)
[10:28] <brokepunk> ierana, how many times does it take?
[10:29] <damnbadluck> chelz: it says "error 15: file not found" in the grub
[10:29] <ierana> 6, 7, 8 times
[10:29] <brokepunk> ierana, have you checked /var/log to see audits of failed attempts?
[10:29] <ierana> it depens
[10:29] <pingfloyd> ierana: as in can't log in?
[10:29] <brokepunk> ierana, perhaps password mistyped?
[10:29] <ierana> ok
[10:29] <chelz> iNightcrow: if you've installed a linux like debian before, nope. but just read the guide a few times and be aware of any issues that might come up.
[10:29] <ierana> i check
[10:29] <chelz> damnbadluck: aha alright
[10:29] <pingfloyd> ierana: sounds like mistyping the password
[10:29] <iNightcrow> Ok, thank you buddy.
[10:29] <chelz> damnbadluck: are you back in the livecd?
[10:29] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, are these the right questions to ask?
[10:30] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, trying to learn sysaadmin for linus
[10:30] <chelz> damnbadluck: is that a new issue or have you had that issue before?
[10:30] <damnbadluck> chelz: not yet, im on the windows system until it starts back up
[10:30] <brokepunk> pingfloyd, you there?
[10:30] <pingfloyd> brokepunk: not sure what you mean
[10:31] <damnbadluck> chelz:  ive never had this specific issue before, although i have had many, many, many ubuntu discs that have just not worked for some reason over the past few years. typically ill install ubuntu for a day or two then go back to windows, but this time im determined to switch :P
[10:31] <indus> damnbadluck, error 15 is because grub cant find the boot partition
[10:31] <chelz> damnbadluck: wait so you've had an ubuntu partition that you've upgraded since 6.06?
[10:32] <Oyoz> am getting this message when i enter the password :The specified directory service attribute or value does not exit.
[10:32] <damnbadluck> chelz:  the issue this time im having is because my gvfs mount app was broken, and a guy in this chatroom named joeyjones told me to "sudo apt-get remove mount"
[10:32] <indus> damnbadluck, no
[10:33] <Oyoz> what does it mean?
[10:33] <damnbadluck> chelz: what do you mean? when i installed ubuntu last week it was 6.06, and ive upgraded to 9.10 over the next few days.
[10:33] <brokepunk> Oyoz, so you can get to the web based exchange login... and enter your credentials... then get an error?
[10:33] <chelz> damnbadluck: ah ok. shouldn't remove stuff generally, only reinstall
[10:34] <damnbadluck> chelz: yea well i know that now :P
[10:34] <hydester> i have searched online and it isn't clear to me if Xen will be supported via the standard ubuntu karmic distro with building custom kernels, etc.  anybody know?
[10:34] <chelz> damnbadluck: if you can manage it, it probably would be good to do a fresh install instead of upgrading. it's just more stable. but we can fix the current setup. plz tell me when the livecd is done booting
[10:35] <pingfloyd> damnbadluck: one common cause for failed installs is bad download (be sure to check the hash against the iso) or a bad CD burn
[10:35] <damnbadluck> chelz: yea i figured as much, i just need to save my extensive 4chan porn collection and all my KGB info before i do a fresh install
[10:35] <coz_> hydester,  not sure  but found this   http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2009090101935OSHESV
[10:36] <pingfloyd> damnbadluck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[10:36] <hack22> hola
[10:36] <coz_> hydester,  also this   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[10:36] <brokepunk> ex
[10:36] <Akmens> what to use for HDD check?!?
[10:36] <chelz> damnbadluck: you can do that from a live environment, for the record. you just mount the drive and copy the stuff you want out.
[10:36] <damnbadluck> chelz: does it matter whether i install 9.10 straight or upgrade from 6.0x?
[10:36] <chelz> Akmens: fsck
[10:36] <hydester> the first link looks promising.  the second isn't Karmic specific
[10:36] <hack22> singa su mai
[10:36] <evilsherpa> hey all, interesting scenario, i can get my olschool webcam to work in cheese, but not in skype... any ideas whatsoever?
[10:36] <pingfloyd> damnbadluck: here's another good one to bookmark for future cd burning http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm
[10:37] <chelz> damnbadluck: yeah, things are different. almost always better to do a fresh install if you can.
[10:37] <pingfloyd> damnbadluck: you're probably going to run into problems make a huge jump like that
[10:37] <Oyoz> yes brokepunk
[10:37] <pingfloyd> damnbadluck: the upgrades are meant for going up one version
[10:38] <damnbadluck> pingfloyd: yea well not all at once, i went from like 6.04 to 8.04 the to 9.02, then 9.04 then 9.10
[10:38] <chelz> damnbadluck: that ends up accumulating a lot of legacy stuff that you don't really need
[10:38] <Akmens> fsck.ext2: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda
[10:38] <Akmens> Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[10:38] <ardchoille> damnbadluck: You didn't simply change your sources and do apt-get dis-upgrade did you?
[10:38] <Akmens> why this error?
[10:38] <chelz> Akmens: do it from a livecd
[10:38] <Oyoz> so i don't know what i can do now.i don't want 2 use microsoft outlook
[10:39] <pingfloyd> it's also a recipe for all sorts of dependency snafus
[10:39] <Akmens> chelz: im doing that
[10:39] <rethus> where can i find gimp in the repos for the future ?
[10:39] <rethus> which repos have i to add
[10:39] <chelz> Akmens: sudo umount /dev/sdaX then
[10:39] <rethus> and where van i get the newest now
[10:39] <ardchoille> rethus: You mean getting the gimp from the next ubuntu release?
[10:39] <chelz> Oyoz: try thunderbird and/or evolution
[10:39] <damnbadluck> chelz:  ok well im running to slimline dell optiplex, 745 and 755, and i have to keep swapping the cd drive, so if i can burn a 9.10 iso from the ubuntu pc that would be a lot easier than tearing both systems open again. i just need to get it working first.
[10:39] <chelz> rethus: go to synaptic or add/remove and search for gimp
[10:39] <Akmens> chelz: umount: /dev/sda: not mounted
[10:39] <damnbadluck> ardchoille: nope.
[10:39] <ezra-s> any good guide to confiure slapd in Ubuntu from scratch?
[10:40] <rethus> chelz: now i have gimp 2.6
[10:40] <damnbadluck> chelz: hardy heron is running and up from disc now
[10:40] <chelz> damnbadluck: yeah i understand. we're doing that now. i just mean doing a fresh install at your earliest convenience
[10:40] <rethus> but crashed many times
[10:40] <chelz> damnbadluck: alright open a terminal
[10:40] <pingfloyd> damnbadluck: I'm not saying it is impossible, because it isn't, but there is room for more issues to have to resolve on the way
[10:40] <damnbadluck> chelz: ok, just a sec while i log onto irc on the other system
[10:41] <pingfloyd> damnbadluck: I've even had it where things went bad dist upgrading up to the next version.  I've also had it go without a hitch as well.
[10:42] <hydester> coz_: it looks like they say to build from source, etc.  i guess then it isn't and won't be supported?
[10:42] <damnbadluck2> chelz: ok, im here
[10:42] <coz_> hydester,  again i am not sure  let me check one more thing
[10:42] <damnbadluck2> chelz: terminal is open
[10:43] <coz_> hydester,  you could join the #ubuntu-server channel and inquire there :)
[10:43] <chelz> damnbadluck: do:  sudo grub
[10:43] <hydester> coz_: i'll give it a shot.  but i am guessing they'll tell me to come here ;)   thanks
[10:43] <chelz> damnbadluck2: do:  sudo grub
[10:43] <damnbadluck2> chelz: ok
[10:43] <chelz> damnbadluck2: then         root (hd0,1)
[10:43] <ouyes> i want to use mv command to move a few directories to one directories in one time, how can i do this?
[10:44] <chelz> damnbadluck2: then           setup (hd0)
[10:44] <coz_> hydester,  well no I dont think so since xen is designed actually for the server anyway
[10:44] <chelz> damnbadluck2:    then     quit
[10:44] <chelz> damnbadluck2:    then     reboot
[10:44] <chelz> brb
[10:45] <damnbadluck2> chelz: http://pastebin.com/m28781784
[10:46] <linux> jest kto?
[10:46] <ezra-s> Any good guide to confiugre slapd in Ubuntu from scratch?
[10:46] <ardchoille> !pl | linux
[10:47] <hydester> coz_: i am asking there.  what is the key difference between server and desktop besides X?
[10:47] <damnbadluck2> chelz: did you see that?
[10:47] <chelz> damnbadluck2: i did hmm
[10:47] <ardchoille> hydester: the LAMP stack
[10:47] <ardchoille> !lamp
[10:47] <Myrtti> ardchoille: it's not installed by default...
[10:48] <chelz> damnbadluck2: try in another terminal     fdisk -l
[10:48] <ardchoille> Myrtti: not even on the server?
[10:48] <indus> hydester, many packages are removed from server edition too
[10:48] <royrussell> hydester default security settings and packages
[10:48] <Myrtti> ardchoille: nothing is installed by default that would open up ports on the machine. LAMP isn't the only reason to use -server, so why install it by default
[10:48] <chelz> damnbadluck2: also in the grub terminal do:       find /boot/grub/stage1
[10:48] <damnbadluck2> chelz:  it doesnt show anything, just another command line.
[10:49] <ardchoille> Myrtti: Ah, my bad. Just assumed from the name "server"
[10:49] <damnbadluck2> chelz:  grub> find /boot/grub/stage1  (hd0,0)
[10:50] <chelz> damnbadluck2: then         root (hd0,0)
[10:50] <chelz> damnbadluck2: then           setup (hd0)
[10:50] <indus> damnbadluck now do root    (hd0,0)
[10:50] <indus> and lastly setup  (hd0)
[10:50] <indus> do not forget the space
[10:50] <indus> yes what chelz says
[10:50] <chelz> damnbadluck2:    then     quit
[10:50] <chelz> damnbadluck2:    then     reboot
[10:51] <danthemango> hello fellow ubuntu users
[10:51] <chelz> !hi | danthemango
[10:51] <mefiX> why is ubuntu not able to make screenshots of a window containing the window-decoration?
[10:51] <damnbadluck2> chelz: ok, brb then, gonna have a quick smoke while its loading.
[10:51] <danthemango> I haven't even tried that yet
[10:51] <chelz> woo i bet that fixed it
[10:52] <bajorek> czesc
[10:52] <bajorek> czesc
[10:52] <bajorek> elo
[10:52] <bajorek> ejj misiu
[10:52] <KUBUS12343> zmienilem nick pomoze ktos
[10:52] <danthemango> what window decoration?
[10:52] <danthemango> panels?
[10:53] <chelz> bajorek: #ubuntu-cz
[10:53] <bajorek> jest ktos ?
[10:53] <chelz> bajorek: /join #ubuntu-cz
[10:54] <ardchoille> !pl | bajorek
[10:54]  * meowbuntu is feeling sad cant get facebook problem sorted 
[10:54] <chelz> oh oops, thx ardchoille
[10:54] <danthemango> what problem?
[10:54] <ardchoille> yw
[10:55] <meowbuntu> how can i request an un-ban from a channel on freenode
[10:55] <m_fulder> can I send a file from a ubuntu comp to a win7 comp while in one network?
[10:56] <meowbuntu> m_fulder, yes
[10:56] <m_fulder> how? :)
[10:56] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: ask the op who banned you
[10:56] <m_fulder> banned me ?
[10:56] <m_fulder> aha ops
[10:56] <m_fulder> to meowbuntu sry :P
[10:57] <ksowinski> bajorek jestes
[10:57] <ksowinski> ??
[10:57] <bajorek> hej suko
[10:57] <ksowinski> hahah xD
[10:57] <Myrtti> !pl
[10:57] <ksowinski> zajebiscie mailes racja
[10:57] <HammerHead66> ﻿chelz: I can view usanetwork.com it's just a little choppy for some reason. but on youtube.com it runs great
[10:57] <bajorek> ja nie umuie kurwa p angielsku
[10:57] <ksowinski> jebac angielski!!!
[10:57] <chelz> HammerHead66: that's good
[10:57] <m_fulder> to zmien na .pl :P
[10:57] <KUBUS12343> dzięki panowie za pomoc normalnie ssam szybciej dojdę co i jak
[10:57] <ksowinski> thats inst good!~
[10:57] <Screamo_Smurf> Can somebody help me with internet connection sharing?
[10:57] <qtk> kubus, a co Ci sie zjebalo ?
[10:58] <ouyes> i can not copy files from a ntfs partition , it seems i do not have the permission( i am running xubuntu 9.10), anyone have an idea?
[10:58] <FloodBot2> bajorek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:59] <chelz> ouyes: pastebin   "ls -l /media"
[10:59] <damnbadluck2> chelz: still have that error 15 in grub
[11:00] <meowbuntu> !samba | m_
[11:00] <Screamo_Smurf> anybody know anything about internet connection sharing?
[11:01] <meowbuntu> !samba | m_fMy yes how i've been banned from channel
[11:01] <michaeldobrovits> hello, can anyon help with custom modeline?
[11:01] <meowbuntu> Myrtti, yes how i've been banned from channel
[11:02] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: /msg chanserv access #channel list
[11:02] <chelz> damnbadluck2: do you get any menu?
[11:03] <damnbadluck2> chelz: i had a grub boot menu, it asked me which ubuntu kernel to load, i didnt bother trying any of them, all night long all of them have said they dont work
[11:03] <michaeldobrovits> hello, can anyon help with custom modeline?
[11:04] <Screamo_Smurf> :|
[11:04] <chelz> damnbadluck2: ah well two solutions, read this and fix grub http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/grub-error-15-debianubuntu/    or  boot to a livecd, mount the partition, backup the data you want, and do a fresh install
[11:05] <chelz> damnbadluck2: fixing grub is contingent on getting a good output from "fdisk -l" and editing menu.lst, and just backing up data and doing a fresh install is a ton easier
[11:05] <Screamo_Smurf> can somebody please help me?
[11:06] <chelz> it's super late here so i gotta be off. i do hope your issue gets resolved tho.
[11:06] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: just ask the channel
[11:06] <Screamo_Smurf> i have several times..
[11:06] <michaeldobrovits> hello, can anyon help with custom modeline?
[11:06] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: we don't know if we can help you if you don't ask
[11:06] <damnbadluck2> chelz:  ok, how can i backup the data with just a single HDD? i dont know if ubuntu will pick up a usb drive if i plug it in.
[11:06] <Myrtti> !anyone | Screamo_Smurf
[11:06] <meowbuntu> Myrtti, ok then what here was ban message i got "You have been kicked from #facebook by ryanmerket (meowbuntu)"
[11:06] <M3TVF> Anybody using SDR for ham radio in Ubuntu
[11:06] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: /msg ryanmerket
[11:07] <Screamo_Smurf> ok
[11:07] <michaeldobrovits> damnbadluck, ubuntu will recognize u'r usb pen or hdd
[11:07] <Screamo_Smurf> im sharing my internet connection to my xbox, but i only have internet on my xbox and not my pc
[11:07] <Screamo_Smurf> how do i fix that?
[11:08] <VectorX> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal ?
[11:09] <michaeldobrovits> VectorX, you can try making one with system > perferences > keyboardshortcuts
[11:09] <michaeldobrovits> VectorX, or you can try guake
[11:11] <VectorX> whats guake ?
[11:11] <VectorX> nm ill man it
[11:11] <kilev> Does anyone know if ubuntu v9.10 support i3 cpu?
[11:11] <michaeldobrovits> Kilev, what do you mean i3?
[11:12] <Screamo_Smurf> Can somebody help me with this?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[11:12] <meowbuntu> Myrtti, /msg  ryanmerket ryanmerket :No such nick/channel
[11:12] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: then you're out of luck.
[11:12] <Screamo_Smurf> meowbuntu that means hes offline.
[11:12] <meowbuntu> Y he was there #facebok is a channel on freenode
[11:12] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: not everyone is on IRC 24/7
[11:12] <kilev> Michaelbobrovits i mean latest intel cpu Core I3 its called
[11:12] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: send a memoserv message
[11:13] <meowbuntu> Screamo_Smurf, ok hes an op
[11:13] <meowbuntu> Myrtti, how
[11:13] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: be creative and find yourself out
[11:13] <meowbuntu> Myrtti, i already know who i am thanks
[11:14] <Guest89194> hi everyone
[11:14] <Screamo_Smurf> hello
[11:14] <kilev> :)
[11:15] <kilev> Anyone installed Ubuntu on latest i3 intel CPU ?
[11:15] <Mateo_> hello
[11:15] <acsia> hello
[11:15] <acsia> I am trying to upgrade from gutsy to hardy and I get a couple of 404 as the upgrade tries to hit against http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-backports/main/source/Sources.gz
[11:16] <DJ_HaMsTa> would i be able to do a raid in ubuntu without the need of extra drivers ?
[11:16] <acsia> any ideas?
[11:16] <Quan-Time> having problems mounting an iso.  tried furius ISO mount, and gmount... to no avail.. ideas ? its a .iso file (dvd size)
[11:16] <damnbadluck2> chelz: how do i move files when permission is denied?
[11:16] <acsia> it seems that it tries to grab the subdomain from sources.list but that is for obsolete releases
[11:17] <michaeldobrovits> Kilev, the only diffrence between i3 and i7 is that i3 is dual core and doesn't have intel turbo boost
[11:17] <Mateo_> i have a problem with wubi and the last ubuntu... my computer has shutted down, and on reboot, i have a GRUB4DOS ... menuend: 0x.... just after selecting ubuntu in grub
[11:17] <kilev> yes i'm not after difference so do you know if i7 works with latest ubuntu if it does then probably i3 will work too
[11:18] <sebsebseb> acsia: yeah stuff like that,  repos becoming bad when releases are no longer supported, and then making trying to upgrade to a supported release an issue
[11:18] <anubhav> how i can configure the order of nameservers in resolv.conf
[11:19] <michaeldobrovits> kilev, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-kernel-intel-core-i7.html
[11:19] <kilev> i3 or i5 i7 if any of those supported i'd get that laptop tomorrow
[11:19] <damnbadluck2> chelz: are you still around?
[11:19] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: Wubi can mess up on people sometimes.    Can you boot Windows still?
[11:19] <meowbuntu> acsia, wow such old ubuntu versions. we are up to 9.10 now. upgrades are not guaranteed ot be safe. may loose data. its recomended to frll install if possable.
[11:19] <meowbuntu> !upgrade
[11:19] <michaeldobrovits> kilev, it is well supported
[11:19] <anubhav> I have changed the "interface-order"  but does not seem to work
[11:20] <acsia> hum
[11:20] <Prajwal> any one here can help me creating a repository for a distro ?
[11:20] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: yep, seven works (i'm on it actually)
[11:20] <acsia> ok
[11:20] <kilev> michaeldobrovits Really? are u sure
[11:20] <kilev> checking upgrade page too
[11:20] <meowbuntu> * frill install = full install
[11:20] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: Ok do you have any data in the Wubi install that you want?
[11:20] <acsia> maybe I should do a clean install
[11:20] <acsia> cheers
[11:20] <Prajwal> meowbuntu can you provide me some solutions to create a repository for a distro
[11:20] <damnbadluck2> im trying to copy files from my HDD to my external drive from a live disc version of ubuntu cause my main drive is messed up, but i cant move them cause i dont have permission, can someone help?
[11:21] <meowbuntu> Prajwal, no i cant dont know what that is
[11:21] <michaeldobrovits> kilev, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-kernel-intel-core-i7.html
[11:21] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: Did wubi even boot up properly ever?
[11:22] <meowbuntu> damnbadluck2, yes
[11:22] <Screamo_Smurf> damnbadluck try opening the file broswers as sudo
[11:22] <Prajwal> any one here experienced in distro building
[11:22] <Screamo_Smurf> damnbadluck2*
[11:22] <root51> hello
[11:22] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: i have some VERY important in fact
[11:22] <meowbuntu> damnbadluck2, sudo nautilus
[11:22] <damnbadluck2> meowbuntu: ok
[11:22] <kilev> michaeldobrovits I'm checking url now.
[11:22] <root51> where i can find xplash themes for karmic ubuntu 9.10
[11:23] <buffman> does debian have a software package for "scrobling" last.fm MTP devices?
[11:23] <indus> meowbuntu, gksu nautilus
[11:23] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: oh dear hrm,  there is a way to access  a  Wubi,  that won't boot up I mean just for the data, but  not sure how to do that
[11:23] <root51> vista look alike
[11:23] <meowbuntu> damnbadluck2, that will give you the file browser nautlius as root.
[11:23] <Prajwal> root51 you can add your own xsplash images :)
[11:23] <meowbuntu> indus, eighter will work
[11:23] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: anyway what I was going to suggest is to just do a normal dual boot,  but first you want to get hold of that data  I guess
[11:23] <drlaj> perhaps this is a silly question... is there a naming convention for folders: should I use lowercase or uppercase letters for my own folders?
[11:23] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: for the wubi boot, i can choose between seven and ubuntu so i supose that it boot properly no ?
[11:23] <Prajwal> manually replacing the current xsplash folder
[11:23] <root51> how to activate my xplash
[11:23] <indus> meowbuntu, there is a reason why gksu should be used for gui apps
[11:23] <root51> for karmic ubuntu
[11:24] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: I thought your problem was that it woudn't boot?
[11:24] <damnbadluck2> meowbuntu:  permission is still denied.
[11:24] <root51> im using 9.10
[11:24] <indus> meowbuntu, it can mess up permissions if used with sudo
[11:24] <meowbuntu> indus, i use sudo just fine from live cd ubuntu to do same other day
[11:24] <indus> !gksu
[11:24] <michaeldobrovits> kilev, the only kernel demand is smp, and it's there already
[11:24] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: it's not working when i choose ubuntu
[11:24] <Prajwal> root51 you will find a folder xsplash replace the images and logos there
[11:24] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: ok and in Ubuntu you have some important data?
[11:24] <Prajwal> i dont remember the path exactly
[11:24] <meowbuntu> ok damnbadluck2 use gksu nautilus then
[11:24] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: that is not backed up some where else as well?
[11:24] <Mateo_> i do sebsebseb
[11:25] <damnbadluck2> meowbuntu:  permission still denied
[11:25] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: ok well  it is possible to get hold of it, without booting Ubuntu from Wubi,  however I do not know the details for that.     Once you have the data, I suggest just doing a porper partitioned dual boot.  So first you should re size Windows 7 using Windows 7 if it's like Vista, or data loss might happen.  Then it's just set up a dual boot like normal.
[11:26] <Myrtti> Maja___: do you have Ubuntu support question?
[11:26] <sebsebseb> !dualboot > Mateo_
[11:26] <Prajwal> damnbadluck sudo ?
[11:26] <kilev> michaeldobrovits. Yeah looks like it does support cool thanks for that.
[11:26] <root51> just replace the folder of my xplash
[11:26] <michaeldobrovits> kilev, the only kernel demand is smp, and it's there already
[11:26] <Maja___> some bi or less girl there? Call me
[11:26] <Mateo_> ok i will take a look sebsebseb  thanks ...
[11:26] <Mateo_> need to eat, brb
[11:26] <Prajwal> yes root51 and its done get the images of similar sizes and its done :)
[11:26] <root51> in order activate my new downloaded themes for xplah
[11:26] <root51> k
[11:26] <michaeldobrovits> kilev, symmetrical multi proccessing
[11:27] <michaeldobrovits> kilev, http://bec-systems.com/site/302/getting-linux-on-a-dx58so
[11:27] <Prajwal> so one here to help me making a repository for a distro ?
[11:28] <rumpsy> Prajwal: ?
[11:28] <ksbalaji> I had ff 3.5.0 stable version. Enthused by its stability, I ventured to install 3.6.2pre.. I did this after I included lines deb-src and deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu  - main in my ubuntu hardy repo. Later, I discovered that I could neither cope up with bugs nor be useful in making tests since already 3.6.0 stable version is out. Now I want to revert to the...
[11:28] <ksbalaji> ...stable ver. 3.6.0 or 3.7.0. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling without efffect. I am installing only 3.6.2! HELP!
[11:28] <kilev> michaelbobrovits, Checking...
[11:28] <damnbadluck2> meowbuntu:  ?
[11:28] <meowbuntu> damnbadluck2, both windows, one where the file is and the one for usb have to be gksu nautlus
[11:28] <damnbadluck2> meowbuntu:  ok
[11:29] <qtk> omgo mgo
[11:29] <Prajwal> rumpsy i need to have my own repository for a distro ... i mean hosting a repository
[11:29] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: you need to uninstall first, then remove that line from your sources, and then find a place for a stable 3.6 or alternatively stick to the old firefox you were using.
[11:29] <FunkyWeasel> Hello, back again with audio problems.  Amarok frozen and is looping sound from an oga I was listening to - so far no-one has offered a better solution than "you must reboot" - is there anything I can do to force pulseaudio to actually restart (/etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart does not work)?
[11:29] <michaeldobrovits> Prajwal, have you considered git?
[11:30] <meowbuntu> damnbadluck2, also this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762716
[11:30] <rumpsy> qtk: ?
[11:30] <ksbalaji> Myrtti: I tried that. I also tried forcing version 3.6.0  - no use. I get back that 3.6.2 thing again and again on installing!
[11:30] <turneralex__> Hey I've got someone (sysadmin) connected to my server via ssh, how can i spy on what theyre doing? :P
[11:30]  * meowbuntu thinks damnbadluck and damnbadluck2  are the same person 
[11:31] <damnbadluck2> meowbuntu:  ok that worked, is it bad to install 8.04 off the disk im running then upgrade to 9.10?
[11:31] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: you removed the daily ppa from the sources, and cleared your package cache?
[11:31] <ginedi_> turneralex__: join some hacking networks
[11:31] <Screamo_Smurf> meowbuntu you are correct about them being the same person
[11:31] <ksbalaji> meowbuntu: though I have that damnbadluck installing ff stable version!
[11:31] <Myrtti> damnbadluck2: it's incredibly difficult to upgrade to 9.10 from 8.04
[11:31] <Prajwal> michaeldobrovits ok let me have a look at git
[11:31] <FunkyWeasel> nm, got work to get done, guess I have to do a windows-style reboot.
[11:31] <turneralex__> but its not hacking if its your own server, is it?
[11:31] <meowbuntu> damnbadluck2, might be. always best to use full install.
[11:32]  * FunkyWeasel is thoroughly unimpressed with ubuntu audio.
[11:32] <damnbadluck2> meowbuntu:  yea damnbadluck is my windoews system, im leaving it on until i get this ubuntu distro running.
[11:32] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: clear cache.
[11:32] <ginedi_> turneralex__: tehnically speaking yes, it's not hacking... but hackers take care of stuff like this
[11:32] <sebsebseb> ksbalaji:   Probably better really to stay with  the Firefox  3.5 (with the security updates).  People who upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, which will be released at the end of April,  will get the later Firefox.
[11:32] <ksbalaji> Myrtti: How to clear package cache?
[11:32] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: uninstall the broken version
[11:33] <damnbadluck2> Myrtti: everytime i try to burn a 9.10 disc or use USB to install, it fucks up, do you know of any way to do it easier or can you guide me through?
[11:33] <damnbadluck2> Myrtti: prefferably through usb method :P
[11:33] <JonathanEllis> Does the ASUS Eee PC 1000H work well with Ubuntu? I am considering buying one but the one I am looking at comes with windows xp preinstalled. I want to put Ubuntu on it but wonder if the 3G SIM card will work properly under linux.
[11:33] <turneralex__> Ah, i thought there was a legit way to share a session with someibe ekse
[11:33] <turneralex__> **someone else
[11:33] <Myrtti> damnbadluck2: you checked the md5sum of the image before trying? (please mind your language, we've got underaged and people from different cultures here)
[11:33] <Yaroze> anyone know how to enable TRIM on an intel ssd device with ub 9.10 and ext4 ?
[11:33] <ginedi_> turneralex__: you can always check HISTFILE
[11:34] <ginedi_> turneralex__: and HISTSAVE
[11:34] <damnbadluck2> Myrtti: i dont know what that is.
[11:34] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: sudo aptitude clean
[11:34] <sebsebseb> !language > damnbadluck2
[11:34] <ginedi_> turneralex__: there are files that keep a list of all commands that a user runs, i'm not familiar with their settings on Ubuntu, but you can google for more info
[11:34] <Myrtti> !md5sum > damnbadluck2
[11:35] <michaeldobrovits> Yaroze, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/KarmicSSD
[11:35] <Myrtti> !ping
[11:35] <damnbadluck2> Myrtti:  i cant use linux commands in windows.
[11:35] <Myrtti> damnbadluck2: and there is md5sum for windows, too
[11:35] <Myrtti> !md5sum | damnbadluck2
[11:35] <damnbadluck2> Myrtti: ok well ill go google it
[11:36] <Myrtti> damnbadluck2: see the second link of that ^
[11:36] <meowbuntu> damnbadluck2, also ubuntu 8.04 wahas long term support 4 3 years after it came out.
[11:36] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: maybe since I just sent one, and you did at about the same time as well
[11:36] <sebastian_> witam
[11:36] <kilev> michaeldobrovits Do you know if all those all 32 bit add/remove programs also all of them available on 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:36] <meowbuntu> damnbadluck2, there will be another lts version comming out soon i think
[11:37] <Myrtti> !pl | sebastian_
[11:37] <sebsebseb> meowbuntu:  damnbadluck2  10.04 released at the end of April is the next LTS
[11:37] <michaeldobrovits> kilev, most of the 32bit apps will work on 64 distros
[11:37] <Yaroze> michaeldobrovits: yeh but how do i check if its actually working?
[11:38] <kilev> Ahh good perfect :)
[11:38] <michaeldobrovits> i use 32 bit wine on 64 karmic with no issues
[11:38] <ouyes> sebastian_, meowbuntu as the schedule, the final release is at April 29th
[11:38] <kilev> Ok
[11:38] <sebsebseb> ouyes: yep
[11:38] <kilev> ahh you mean windows apps? how about unubtu it self add /remove apps
[11:39] <kilev> don't really care about windows apps
[11:39] <michaeldobrovits> Yaroze, seems to me that for now only flash player has some issues but after installin adobe alpha player 64bit had no issues with it
[11:39] <ouyes> a lot of people are waiting, hoping it is a big improvement
[11:39] <slipper1024> installed likewise open, after domainjoin i need to restart to make domain logins work, this will be installed on production servers and can't reboot, what services needs to be restarted, pam.d?
[11:39] <Yaroze> michaeldobrovits: wrong person :)
[11:39] <sebsebseb> ouyes: it is likely to be a pretty good release since LTS
[11:40] <michaeldobrovits> kilev,  seems to me that for now only flash player has some issues but after installin adobe alpha player 64bit had no issues with it
[11:40] <Yaroze> Adobes 64bit flash does not work on all computers for some reason on some it crashes when Firefox sees a flashfile
[11:40] <Yaroze> michaeldobrovits: i was asking on how to check if ssd trim is actually working :)
[11:41] <Prajwal_> michaeldobrovits i got disconnected so can you post it again
[11:41] <ouyes> sebsebseb,  yes i think so , i hope so, hoping fast and stable, avaliable , bug-free( little critical bug
[11:41] <michaeldobrovits> Yaroze, i didn't encountered any issue since moving to 64 bit alpa player from adobe
[11:41] <slipper1024> likewise open anybody?
[11:42] <Yaroze> michaeldobrovits: neither did I, but it refused to work on my moms computer for some reason and one of the comps at work
[11:42] <ouyes> sebsebseb,  give MS a big surprise, also the ubuntu-supporters and fans
[11:42] <Yaroze> tho 32 bit flash runs pretty well.. just have to reload the page sometimes
[11:42] <sebsebseb> ouyes:  Boot up should be quite a lot faster, since it's being changed.  and so on.  anyway #ubuntu+1 is where 10.04 can be talked about
[11:42] <sebsebseb> ouyes:  #ubuntu+1 is the 10.04 channel at the moment
[11:42] <kilev> michaeldobrovits, Ok
[11:42] <michaeldobrovits> Prajwal_, google git
[11:43] <Screamo_Smurf> my internet doesnt work on my computer when i share my connection with my xbox
[11:43] <ouyes> sebsebseb,  got it, you made your point
[11:43] <michaeldobrovits> kilev, some programs have small issues but not serious through googling out you can fix most of them
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[11:44] <meowbuntu> !restricted
[11:44] <ouyes> hei, can anyone help me? i can not copy files from a ntfs partition in my hard driver where the ubuntu is installed and running
[11:44] <rumpsy> ouyes: use ntfs-3g
[11:45] <Myrtti> ouyes: you've got ubuntu installed on a NTFS drive?
[11:45] <ksbalaji> Is it ok to jump from 8.04 to 10.04 LTS? -upgrading. I have problems in full install since a few of my app. installations and home folder are mixed up.
[11:45] <brijith> can anyone suggest a good email client which will work behind from a Proxy server
[11:45] <sebsebseb> ksbalaji: sure, but  10.04 isn't out yet
[11:45] <brijith> ?
[11:45] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: it's not adviceable or easily possible yet
[11:45] <meowbuntu> !ntfs | ouyes
[11:45] <sebsebseb> ksbalaji: when 10.04 is released, that's  perfectly fine to upgrade 8.04 to 10.04
[11:45] <ksbalaji> people here say that upgr. from 8.04 is not easy!
[11:45] <ouyes> rumpsy, tried already but failed with no luck, thanks
[11:46] <meowbuntu> !ntfs- 3g | ouyes
[11:46] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: to any other version than the forthcoming 10.04, when it's released
[11:46] <Screamo_Smurf> Can somebody please help me with this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[11:46] <rumpsy> ouyes: pastebin your fstab info
[11:46] <meowbuntu> !fuse | ouyes
[11:46] <ribot> hi
[11:46] <sebsebseb> ksbalaji: she meant not adviseable at the moment, and possibily not that easy,  since it's in development at the moment
[11:46] <brijith> can anyone suggest a good email client which will work behind from a Proxy server.. ???
[11:46] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, sometimes you don't have permission to copy data into your main filesystem except your home partition or directory it can be overrided through terminal > sudo nautilus
[11:46] <sebsebseb> ksbalaji: ,but when the final is released it's easy to upgrade to it from 8.04
[11:46] <ouyes> Myrtti, no , it is impossible mate, i installed ubuntu in ext4 and there is another partition in my hard driver(ntfs)
[11:46] <ribot> im trying to use mobile broadband, but after having added the connection i cannot click it in the list to connect -- it is not in the list
[11:47] <erUSUL> !mua | brijith
[11:47] <ksbalaji> Myrtti: so you suggest that from 8.04 to 10.04 is better than switching thru 9.xx?
[11:47] <Myrtti> ouyes: yes, I know, I just wanted to make sure what you meant
[11:47] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits, mate i am in xubuntu
[11:47] <Screamo_Smurf> ribot try wvdial
[11:47] <sebsebseb> ouyes: are you trying  to access your Ubuntu partition from Windows?
[11:47] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, if you have troubles writing on ntfs (windows partition than install ntfs-3g)
[11:47] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: it's certainly faster and less error prone
[11:47] <Jimi_Neutral> hi all, i cant log into mysql server it says erroe 2002 cant connect to local mysql server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) any idea what this could be?
[11:47] <sebsebseb> ksbalaji: when 10.04 is released you can do a clean install of it, or upgrade directly to it from 8.04
[11:47] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: it's just not possible until 10.04 is officially released
[11:47] <brijith> erUSUL:I have tried evolution
[11:47] <ouyes> sebsebseb,  of course not , it is impossible to make an access to ext4 filesystem in windows
[11:48] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, ask how does file manager is called in xubuntu?
[11:48] <sebsebseb> ouyes: well  probably not impossible, just not really a good idea
[11:48] <Screamo_Smurf> its dolphin michaeldobrovits
[11:48] <erUSUL> michaeldobrovits: thunar
[11:48] <Screamo_Smurf> oops
[11:48] <jussi01> michaeldobrovits: #xubuntu might help, but the name is thunar
[11:48] <Screamo_Smurf> nvm
[11:48] <erUSUL> Screamo_Smurf: dolphin is kde's
[11:48] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, you see thunar :)
[11:48] <Screamo_Smurf> yes i just realised
[11:48] <AceKing> Do KVM switches normally work with Ubuntu?
[11:48] <katyushka> hello
[11:48] <brijith> erUSUL:but could not connect, maybe because I am accessing it behind a proxy server
[11:49] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits,  what sorry?
[11:49] <katyushka> i from mexico
[11:49] <michaeldobrovits>   Thanks Screamo_Smurf ,erUSUL and Jussi01
[11:49] <sebsebseb> ouyes: as for reading NTFS, as long as Windows shut it down properly,  it shoudn't be a problem
[11:49] <ksbalaji> sebsebseb: As I already said, some of my apps are mixed up * some directly installed... my home is part in another partition and part in the OS partition.etc, so I like to upgrade only. a clean install surely could damage some of my precious data!
[11:50] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, file manager is called thunar :)
[11:50] <anubhav> AceKing: they have nothing to do with the OS  AFAIK
[11:50] <erUSUL> Screamo_Smurf: ask
[11:50] <Screamo_Smurf> i need help with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[11:51] <michaeldobrovits> need help creating custom modeline
[11:51] <sebsebseb> ksbalaji: upgrade then,  no Ext4 on upgrade though,  or Grub 2 as far as I know, but you don't need those anyway,   anyway April 29th is when it comes out, but the first day or two, the download servers will be packed, and so downloads will take quite a while
[11:51] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits, sudo nautilus
[11:51] <ouyes> sudo: nautilus: command not found  as i said i am in xubuntu
[11:51] <erUSUL> Screamo_Smurf: with what step? or what is the error you are getting?
[11:51] <Screamo_Smurf> i got it to share internet to my 360, but then i only have internet on my 360 and not on my computer
[11:51] <erUSUL> !gksudo | ouyes
[11:52] <sanderj_> Hi. Why does /etc/debian_version have "lenny/sid".. in my Ubuntu 8.04 LTS os?
[11:52] <ouyes> sebsebseb,  see my private message please
[11:52] <AceKing> anubhav, I wouldn't think so, but I can't get mine to switch computers. It worked fine before. Maybe something happened to the switch. I figured I'd ask before buying a new switch. Thanks
[11:52] <michaeldobrovits> Screamo_Smurf, do you say that internet to your xbox goes trough the computer and works but on the host ubuntu machine you can't use the internet ah?
[11:52] <ksbalaji> But trustworthy 8.04 is superb! I have changed my motherboard itself from intel orig. to asus = retaining the same ubuntu HD - no change at all and everything is fine!
[11:52] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, file manager is called thunar :)
[11:52] <Screamo_Smurf> yes thats exactly whats happening michaeldobrovits
[11:52] <michaeldobrovits> Screamo_Smurf, i think it is something to do with permissions
[11:52] <sebsebseb> ouyes: yeah just done so,  michaeldobrovits  seems to be trying to help you, but there's also #xubuntu by the way
[11:53] <erUSUL> Screamo_Smurf: what error you get from ping if you try to ping google foe example?
[11:53] <anubhav> AceKing: we have many of  those in the Lab , never seen one go out.
[11:53] <Screamo_Smurf> i dont remember
[11:53] <sebsebseb> ksbalaji: yes 8.04 is good, also you don't have to upgrade straight away to 10.04,  since  when 10.04 comes out, well 8.04 will still have another year or so of support
[11:53] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits,  thanks, would you please make a more detailed instruction mate
[11:53] <anubhav> AceKing: or maybe the IT guys silently change them
[11:53] <Screamo_Smurf> it never got a reply
[11:53] <titi> tets
[11:54] <rlameiro> hi
[11:54] <rlameiro> I cant run nautilus
[11:54] <Screamo_Smurf> well im going to hook it up and try again real quick
[11:54] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, try sudo thunar and do what ever you want coping from there to here and there to there
[11:55] <rlameiro> my desktops is frozen
[11:55] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, just don't play with your system files
[11:55] <rumpsy> rlameiro: stop bonobo-activation-server
[11:55] <AceKing> anubhav, I did have one go out a few years back on me. I'll test it on 2 other computers. I just hate reaching behind to pull everything apart. LOL
[11:55] <rlameiro> if  I run it as root it will open, but with my normal user is not working, at shutdown time, ubuntu tells me that its running
[11:56] <rumpsy> rlameiro: kill bonobo-activation-server
[11:56] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, i mean the ubuntu os, you can use your home mount or folder with no issues
[11:56] <Myrtti> rlameiro: have you set up a root account password?
[11:56] <ksbalaji> A tech clarification- I had inter mother board when I upgraded to 8.04, Now I have asus board. (without changing a bit my hardy performs ok). When 10.04 is out, and I upgrade to 10.04, will my OS search for intel board and complain?
[11:56] <rumpsy> rlameiro: and restart nautilus
[11:56] <ribot> Screamo_Smurf: what is wvdial? i have to reboot the computer without internet, so i need something proper to try
[11:56] <anubhav> AceKing:  i can understand .. ;-)
[11:56] <rlameiro> Myrtti: as sudo nautilus it opens
[11:57] <Screamo_Smurf> ribot sudo apt-get install wvdial
[11:57] <rlameiro> rumpsy, it gives me a error
[11:57] <Screamo_Smurf> h/o let me get you some links
[11:57] <root51> where i download graphical themes usplash for 9.10
[11:57] <root51> any idea
[11:57] <rumpsy> rlameiro: where do you stop that?
[11:57] <rlameiro> rumpsy: bash: kill: bonobo-activation-server: arguments must be process or job IDs
[11:57] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits, but there is a ntfs partition i can mount it but i can not copy any files in it , i have no proper permission , but they(ubuntu and the ntfs) are both in the same hard driver
[11:58] <gnagno> hello all
[11:58] <root51>  i mean xplash
[11:58] <Jimi_Neutral> how do i find out wich version of mysql is intalled on ubuntu?
[11:58] <gnagno> can someone please tell me how to disable the "create" button in the auto generated admin interface?
[11:58] <Screamo_Smurf> ugh
[11:58] <gnagno> Jimi_Neutral, just log in to mysql
[11:59] <lucky4linux> gnagno     where do you mean
[11:59] <Myrtti> gnagno: in what interface?
[11:59] <rumpsy> rlameiro: simple way is add a system monitor applet to panel, and check that system monitor and choose process tab, select bonobo-activation-server to kill
[11:59] <rlameiro> rumpsy I just killed nautilus and worked... but i would like to know why it happened
[11:59] <Jimi_Neutral> gnagno, i cant i have a problem and i need to remove it
[11:59] <Jimi_Neutral> gnagno, but i need to find out which version it is
[11:59] <Screamo_Smurf> ok well i got the internet to conect to the 360, but now i cant browse the internet, but irc works just fine?
[11:59] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: you've got a dns issue then
[11:59] <rumpsy> rlameiro: its a common problem, but its rare
[11:59] <rlameiro> rumpsy: I do that allready, i dont have any bonobo-activation-server
[12:00] <gnagno> lucky4linux, I mean in an admin page generated with admin generator
[12:00] <Screamo_Smurf> hmm
[12:00] <Myrtti> gnagno: admin page on what?
[12:00] <Screamo_Smurf> how do i fix it?
[12:00] <rumpsy> rlameiro: check that in process tab
[12:00] <rlameiro> rumpsy: hummm i apaear aafter killing nautilus....
[12:00] <lucky4linux> gnagno which admin page
[12:00] <rlameiro> bonobo its the server from ubuntu one right?
[12:00] <Myrtti> rlameiro: no
[12:01] <gnagno> sorry, I thought I was in the symfony channel :)
[12:01] <Myrtti> rlameiro: bonobo is part of gnome
[12:01] <gnagno> I am such an idiot :P
[12:01] <bubulein> hi
[12:01] <lucky4linux> gnagno ok
[12:01] <rlameiro> Myrtti: ok
[12:01] <Myrtti> gnagno: not idiot, just confused
[12:01] <Screamo_Smurf> ribot http://davestechsupport.com/blog/2008/02/28/how-to-connect-linux-to-your-cellular-internet/
[12:01] <ribot> Screamo_Smurf: i cannot install anything as ubuntu cannot acess internet
[12:01] <Screamo_Smurf> hmm
[12:01] <gnagno> ehehe I gave you the oportunity of laugh a bit :P
[12:01] <Screamo_Smurf> you can download the deb file for it
[12:01] <rumpsy> rlameiro: check that, it should be there under processes tab
[12:01] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits,  sudo thunar does not work
[12:01] <ksbalaji> A tech clarification. I had Intel mother board when I upgraded to 8.04. Now I have changed to Asus board and without changing a bit my hardy glides ok!. When I upgrade to 10.04, will my OS search for intel board and complain?
[12:01] <rlameiro> rumpsy: already dead :D
[12:01] <Screamo_Smurf> but its hit and miss for the dependencies
[12:01] <rumpsy> brb
[12:01] <JonathanEllis> Does Ubuntu have an appointment management app that would allow me to record customer payments for their appointments within the same app?
[12:02] <bubulein> did someone know a way to add beeps to grub? in the old menue.lst u could ad a hex07
[12:02] <lucky4linux> gnagno :-D...
[12:02] <Screamo_Smurf> ribot what version of ubuntu?
[12:02] <rlameiro> thnks gus for the help
[12:02] <ksbalaji> A tech clarification. I had Intel mother board when I upgraded to 8.04. Now I have changed to Asus board and without changing a bit my hardy glides ok!. When I upgrade to 10.04, will my OS search for intel board and complain?
[12:02] <lucky4linux> ksbalaji try live CD
[12:02] <Screamo_Smurf> Myrtti how do i fix the dns problem?
[12:03] <gnagno> I was surprised because everyone was speaking about ubuntu in the symfony channel ;)
[12:03] <lucky4linux> ksbalaji try Live CD then ask here we would be happy to help:) :)
[12:03] <ribot> Screamo_Smurf: 9.09
[12:03] <diablo-sg> hi ubuntuan :)
[12:03] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: the system probes what hardware it's on and probably won't complain at all. but you should try the live cd perhaps first
[12:03] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, do sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[12:03] <Myrtti> ribot: there is no 9.09
[12:04] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes,without do
[12:04] <ribot> whatever was before 9.10
[12:04] <Myrtti> ribot: so 9.04 then
[12:04] <coz_> 9.04
[12:04] <diablo-sg> 9.04
[12:04] <ribot> ok
[12:04] <Screamo_Smurf> well
[12:04] <coz_> ubuntu started ...i believe with 4.
[12:04] <coz_> 4.10
[12:04] <Screamo_Smurf> if i could access internet right now i would give you links to download what you need
[12:04] <Myrtti> ribot: for future reference, the version number tells when the the version was released. year.month
[12:04] <diablo-sg> got my ubuntu sticker atlast <3
[12:05] <sebsebseb> !4.10 | coz_
[12:05] <lucky4linux> i have 8.10 and I want 9.10.  9.04 has graphic problems with my system. I want to directly upgrade to 9.10 form 8.04. is it possible ?
[12:05] <ribot> good to know Myrtti :)
[12:05] <Myrtti> lucky4linux: no.
[12:05] <lucky4linux> i mean from 8.10
[12:05] <coz_> sebsebseb,  yep I have all the disks right here  :
[12:05] <coz_> :)
[12:05] <Screamo_Smurf> Myrtti
[12:06] <ribot> so i can download wvdial from windows somehow, then install on linux=
[12:06] <sebsebseb> coz_: I have used them all except that one, still not got round to virtual maching it to try you know
[12:06] <Myrtti> lucky4linux: you can upgrade from LTS to LTS and from previous version to next without big problems. The other methods require you to upgrade one release at a time.
[12:06] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits, i have installed it  already
[12:06] <Myrtti> lucky4linux: or clean reinstall.
[12:06] <lucky4linux> Myrtti  thx
[12:06] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: you can try to change your dns settings, but I'm not really an expert on it.
[12:06] <coz_> sebsebseb,  4.10 was ...as you can guess ... not real great   but    I will have to try it again soon to be reminded of the progress :)
[12:06] <ksbalaji> lucky4linux. Myrtti, thanks for the idea! bye for now!
[12:07] <Screamo_Smurf> how do i do that?
[12:07] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[12:07] <Screamo_Smurf> hmm i cant ping my dns
[12:07] <sebsebseb> coz_: yeah exactly progress be reminded of it by trying older releases.   I started with second release,  but this is off topic, let's continue a bit in pm :)
[12:08] <coz_> sebsebseb,  sounds good
[12:08] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: can you ping 8.8.8.8
[12:08] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, after ntfs 3g installed you can move and erase inside the ntfs m i right?
[12:08] <Screamo_Smurf> Myrtti yes i can
[12:08] <JonathanEllis> I am a driving instructor. I need to manage my client's appointments and I would like to manage their accounts at the same time within the same app. So I would like an app that allows me to book appointments for my clients but also  keeps track of which lessons they have paid for and allows me to summarise whose accounts are in debit / credit and how much money I have taken in a year. Is there an application that can do this or do I need to write it 
[12:09] <ouyes> lucky4linux,  it is hard, why not try to download 9.10 then make an installation,keep the data of your  home directory
[12:09] <Screamo_Smurf> its kinda annoying when you cant access internet and your brother has been playing on xbl the past 11 hours :(
[12:10] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits,  i still can not copy files from ntfs partition to my ext4 home directory
[12:10] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: you can try this https://store.opendns.com/setup/operatingsystem/ubuntu
[12:10] <lucky4linux> ouyes great idea, but i have to install other software again in the new system :(
[12:11] <ribot> is it safe to install a deb file, for apt-get usage later?
[12:11] <Screamo_Smurf> Myrtti no internet :(
[12:11] <Screamo_Smurf> is there maybe a command for manualy setting the dns address?
[12:11] <ouyes> lucky4linux,  it is quite different between two normal releases of ubuntu , so making fresh installation will save your a lot of time compared to upgrade(the download will last a long time)
[12:11] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: you can try this https://208.69.38.150/setup/operatingsystem/ubuntu
[12:12] <lucky4linux> ouyes ok :) I will do it
[12:12] <ouyes> lucky4linux,  no mate you can backup packages before you make the installation,
[12:12] <Screamo_Smurf> Myrtti well the site cam up but said page not found
[12:12] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, try thunar alone
[12:12] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: Right-click on ‘Network Icon’ (located at top-right panel by default) and click on ‘Edit Connections’ to open Network Connections Manager.
[12:12] <ouyes> lucky4linux,  i recommend a tool for you aptoncd
[12:12] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits,  how ?
[12:13] <michaeldobrovits> in terminal
[12:13] <Screamo_Smurf> ok its open
[12:13] <ouyes> lucky4linux, aptoncd is a package backup tool , it is easy to use.
[12:13] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: then choose the method how your computer is connected to the internet
[12:13] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, did worked?
[12:13] <Screamo_Smurf> well my internet connection is a 3 modem
[12:14] <Screamo_Smurf> im using wvdial to cennect
[12:14] <Screamo_Smurf> *connect
[12:14] <lucky4linux> ouyes ya i know about it, it works on the same dist. versions... not from one distro to another
[12:14] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits,  i am really stupid, will you please give me a very detailed instructions
[12:14] <Myrtti> oh right.
[12:14] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, application accessories terminal
[12:14] <michaeldobrovits> in terminal try sudo thunar
[12:14] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: well, I don't have *any* experience on wvdial, either. perhaps man wvdial would help you on how to setup the dns?
[12:15] <fosser_josh> can anybody know remastering ubuntu I need help. I am trying to do it
[12:15] <iceroot> !remaster | fosser_josh
[12:15] <ribot> will installing deb file in any way confuse apt-get? like,can it stil upgrade that program for me later?
[12:15] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits,  tried and failed
[12:15] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, gksudo "dbus-launch thunar"
[12:15] <iceroot> ribot: you mean a downloaded deb file?
[12:16] <ribot> iceroot: yes
[12:16] <lucky4linux> you have to install thunar
[12:16] <fosser_josh> iceroot: yah
[12:16] <iceroot> ribot: can be a problem if it is not for ubuntu and doing something different (different paths, vars and so on)
[12:16] <fosser_josh> iceroot: can you help me
[12:16] <iceroot> fosser_josh: read the link?
[12:16] <Screamo_Smurf> Myrtti no info in there about dns
[12:16] <ribot> iceroot: it is for ubuntu, wvdial to get internet access
[12:16] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits,  oh god , failed again
[12:17] <iceroot> ribot: and its not in the repo?
[12:17] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, type in terminal sudo -i
[12:17] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, type password
[12:17] <ribot> iceroot: i cannot access internet
[12:17] <fosser_josh> iceroot: which one given by ubottu
[12:17] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, than type thunar
[12:17] <Screamo_Smurf> ribot just downoad the deb, its what i did
[12:17] <michaeldobrovits> if it doesn't work try channle #xubuntu
[12:18] <michaeldobrovits> ouyes, if it doesn't work try channle #xubuntu
[12:18] <Jimi_Neutral> im totally done in....my internet connection worked yesterday, i come to go on the web today and it is not. This box works fine, it is on the same network, the config is fine for the network interface, everythign is the same, it can ping other boxes on the network but for some reason it cant reach the internet, any ideas?
[12:18] <cuco> hi all, how can i install from wubi kubuntu-64bit?
[12:18] <kubanc> does gimp 2.7 work in ubuntu 8.04?
[12:18] <decoder> hi
[12:18] <ribot> ok i shall try
[12:18] <iceroot> fosser_josh: both from ubottu
[12:18] <ouyes> michaeldobrovits, failed,
[12:18] <iceroot> ribot: ok then its no problem if it is the version from the repo
[12:18] <decoder> On Ubuntu 9.10, I see some mathematical symbols in PDF not properly displayed (for example sum symbols)
[12:18] <decoder> any idea what could be broken?
[12:19] <zvacet> ribot:  are you downloading from other comp and then install in Ubuntu
[12:19] <michaeldobrovits> ouyus, try channel #xubuntu
[12:19] <fosser_josh> iceroot: yah doing
[12:20] <Myrtti> decoder: you don't have the fonts the pdf has, then.
[12:20] <decoder> Myrtti: these are standard latex docs, they work everywhere..
[12:20] <Screamo_Smurf> Myrtti my xbox is using the same exact dns adress as my pc is trying to
[12:21] <decoder> they also worked on my old box, I didnt have any additional special fonts there
[12:21] <JoWie> when setting up a makefile, what would be the appropiate path for libraries? (for example bdb)
[12:21] <zvacet> Jimi_Neutral:  try type in terminal   pon dsl-provider and then try to connect
[12:21] <Myrtti> decoder: I don't know then. I think I remember downloading some fonts when I've installed latex myself, but I guess I could remember wrong
[12:21] <mcphargus>  /msg nickserv identify mcphargus Oxyclean20403@
[12:21] <iceroot> mcphargus: change it, fast
[12:22] <mcphargus> f my life
[12:22] <iceroot> mcphargus: and never do it in a public channel
[12:22] <Screamo_Smurf> lol
[12:22] <Akmens> How to format unlocated partition?
[12:22] <Jimi_Neutral> zvacet, comes back with the file does not exist
[12:22] <Screamo_Smurf> ive done that before :D
[12:22] <Akmens> unallocated
[12:22] <Screamo_Smurf> Myrtti
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  you partiion it . then format the partion
[12:22] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: ?
[12:22] <Marwin> Vasco
[12:23] <Jimi_Neutral> yeah ih ave done it before too lol
[12:23] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: I have very little experience with changing dns settings or using wvdial, I can't really help you further.
[12:23] <Screamo_Smurf> ok
[12:23] <Jimi_Neutral> my switch is showing activity
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  you have to have a actual partion made on it.  Not 'unallocated'
[12:23] <Jimi_Neutral> the hardware is showing activity
[12:23] <Jimi_Neutral> but i cant get out to the net
[12:23] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: how to do that?
[12:23] <zvacet> Jimi_Neutral:  then you need answer from somebody with more knowledge then me
[12:23] <Jimi_Neutral> zvacet, ok ty
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  with any of the various partion manager tools, fdisk , parted, gparted, cfdisk
[12:24] <zvacet> Jimi_Neutral:  sorry not been much of help
[12:24] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: It is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  correct. its not.
[12:24] <Jimi_Neutral> zvacet, thats ok ty for answering :)
[12:24] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: i cant do anything with taht partition
[12:24] <zvacet> Jimi_Neutral: np
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  one of them needs tobe a extended partiion to hold 'logical' partions
[12:24] <Screamo_Smurf> Grrr
[12:25] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: how to make it extended?
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  with a partion manager tool like the ones mentioned above.
[12:25] <Jimi_Neutral> im totally done in....my internet connection worked yesterday, i come to go on the web today and it is not. This box works fine, it is on the same network, the config is fine for the network interface, everythign is the same, it can ping other boxes on the network but for some reason it cant reach the internet, any ideas?
[12:25] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: i cant
[12:25] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: i dont know how
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  then you need to learn the tools better.
[12:25] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: ive gparted
[12:25] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[12:25] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: im trying to make new and then comes that error
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> You can only have 3 primanries.. then  a Logical partion.
[12:26] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, yup yup
[12:26] <rcombo> errors on iso download
[12:26] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: then you've got a dns problem, most likely
[12:26] <Jimi_Neutral> dns settings on the box?
[12:26] <ksbalaji> iis FF 3.7.0 a stable version to be installed from ubuntu reposit? - not beta or pre?!
[12:26] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: fdisk doesnt show me that partition at all
[12:26] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: or on your computer
[12:27] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, well this box connects fine so i assume it is on the computer
[12:27] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, how do i config that?
[12:27] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: I've not even heard 3.7.0 has been officially published yet
[12:27] <zvacet> Screamo_Smurf:  see if https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/SetUpDialer is of any help to you
[12:27] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: i have 3 primaries, and how to make that unallocated extended?
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  You are proberly missreading./understanding how it works.. if its Unallocated.. then its not a partion yet. Its unallocated.. make a new 'extended' partion. IF you ahve fewer then 3 primary partions
[12:27] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: and it's not, judging from mozilla.org
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  with fdisk, 'n (for new) then select extended. gpartd has similer feature
[12:27] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: i cant do New
[12:28] <ksbalaji> Myrtti,  my synapt. manages shows it.!
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  then you are doing somthing wrong. or its confused.
[12:28] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: that doesn't mean it's officially released
[12:28] <ksbalaji> +synaptic manager
[12:28] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: if you've got only ubuntu repositories on your system, then you shouldn't even have anything above 3.5.2 visible
[12:28] <Screamo> damn
[12:29] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9890/screenshotkb.png
[12:29] <Marwin> vasco rossi
[12:29] <ksbalaji> Myrtti, then which is the stable ver to go with Hardy? I want to make sure before installing! now I have removed ff fully and cleaned my cache.
[12:29] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: when im choosing new
[12:30] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: you are connecting to the router by wifi or cable?
[12:30] <Myrtti> !info firefox hardy
[12:30] <zvacet> Akmens:  when you choose to create new partition mark it as logical or extended
[12:30] <Screamo_Smurf> Myrtti :D i fixed it :) i set my 360 to use googles dns
[12:31] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, this is at work....my box is attacthed to a switch which is then attactched to the floor ports then to the server room (obviously lol) it is all wired
[12:31] <Akmens> zvacet: i cant push on new
[12:31] <Myrtti> ksbalaji: ^
[12:31] <rcombo> anyone else having issues on ubuntu 9.10 iso download???
[12:31] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, its weird that it worked fine yesterday, i restarted today and it doesnt work anymore
[12:32] <ouyes> sebsebseb, i am back
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  like it says. you allready have 4 primary partions. You  basically need to delete sda4 and remake it as a extended partiioon
[12:32] <zvacet> rcombo:  download with torrent and point download to the folder where your existing iso is torrent will just check iso
[12:32] <rcombo> anyone else having issues on ubuntu 9.10 iso download???
[12:32] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: that happened at my old workplace quite often. It can be an error in the network itself. you can try to set your dns servers to google or opendns, but of course it would be better if you'd use the ones your work network provides
[12:32] <iceroot> rcombo: no
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  you cant  have 4 primaries AND a extended. one primary must become the extended
[12:33] <sebsebseb> ouyes: ok
[12:33] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: in fact  it looks like it's probably the grub that is corrupted ...
[12:33] <mmerlone> hi all, greetings from Brasil!
[12:33] <ksbalaji> Myrtti, thanks and ubottu is becoming clever. Wherefrom it got the cue?
[12:33] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: i need 5 partitions
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  and my answer is still the same.. you MUST make use of an extended partion then and put extra partions in there
[12:33] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: i need to delete sda4, mane sda4 extend and sda5?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  a extended can hold several logical partions
[12:33] <ouyes> it is so strange, i can mount,  create files, delete files, but i just can not copy files, what is wrong? i can not copy files from a ntfs partition to a ext4 filesystem(my home directory0
[12:34] <mmerlone> I am trying 'apt-get install apt-show-versions' on a 8.04.4 and get the error 'Weak references are not implemented in the version of perl at /usr/lib/perl5/AptPkg/hash.pm line 8' after '** initializing cache. This may take a while **'
[12:34] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: so i cant make that unallocated as partition if i dont delete sda4?
[12:34] <mmerlone> I could not find anything useful from google...
[12:34] <rcombo> ok thanks i'll try that
[12:34] <Screamo_Smurf> Jimi_Neutral if you want to know google dns servers are 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Akmens: nore more then 4 base (primary or extended)  partions.. so correct..
[12:35] <mmerlone> can anybody help me?
[12:35] <decoder> Myrtti: i found it, its a bug in ubuntu... wine1.2 pulls in ttf symbol replacement fonts.. once I uninstall them, everything works again as expected
[12:35] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: strange that i cant make it now as extended :/
[12:35] <Jimi_Neutral> how do i set the dns servers...i know how to in windows but i am new to linux...i have set it up with a static address and it worked fine
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  if you want to use the space resize sda4 or sda3
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  you can NOT have 4 primaries AND an extended.. that would be 5 partions.
[12:35] <Myrtti> decoder: ah, guessed it had to be something wrong with the fonts. Wine doesn't suprise me at all
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  the use of a /boot partion is a bit outdated thse days and proberly not needed
[12:36] <decoder> Myrtti: my guess is the regular ttf symbol font is overruled by the ttf symbol font from wine
[12:36] <decoder> which is a problem
[12:36] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: that boot partition is for gentoo, and there is its kernel, so i cant delete it
[12:36] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: i cant, but then ill have to compile it again
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> You can set up gentoo to not use a /boot/ partion.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> but do whatyou want.
[12:37] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: ive set up already
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  swap also does not have tobe on a primary partion
[12:37] <Screamo_Smurf> ah damn it there went my dns :(
[12:37] <Screamo_Smurf> had it for 10 mins then gone
[12:37] <MOODY> way a.q.
[12:38] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: where you set up the static address? on the Graphical dialog for it? you can change your dns in the same place
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  my normal layout 4 partions total -> (primary sda1 )(primary sda2)(primary sda3) (extended, logical (sda4) logical sda5))
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  it has 3 primaries + 1 extended thats holding 2 logicals.. => 5 partitions total
[12:39] <Marwin> vasco rossi
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  the extended partion is techincally 'sda4')
[12:39] <ja660k> hey guys, is 2.0gHz 512mb ram box enough to put ubuntu server on and it function as a web server/ssh for light load?
[12:40] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, what is the syntax? i cant find it on the net,  everythin to do with DNS just points me at downloading somethign called BIND
[12:40] <sloopy> ja660k, yes more then plenty
[12:40] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: ok, ive deleted sda1, how can i take its sice and add to another patition?
[12:40] <ja660k> sloopy, thanks :-)
[12:40] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: did you do the setting of the static ip address on command line?
[12:40] <sloopy> ja660k, np
[12:41] <candy> I downloded skype from a suggested website and while instaling it i got error in package manger what to do??
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  if you wan tto use its space. resize the aprtions next to it.
[12:41] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, in /etc/network interfaces
[12:41] <Screamo_Smurf> candy did it say dependencie not satisfied?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  then you can make a new one in the unallocated space.
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Akmens:  but they will be 'out of numeracal order' so that can confuse things
[12:41] <Akmens> Dr_Willis: ok, ill try to remember it
[12:42] <candy> Screamo_Smurf, no it says something like your packet has been corrupted
[12:42] <Screamo_Smurf> hmm i dont know
[12:42] <Screamo_Smurf> try redownloading it
[12:42] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: you can start by making a backup of a file, with sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.auto
[12:42] <Hiram> does anyone know how to see what the largest contiguous block of free memory you have is?
[12:43] <candy> Screamo_Smurf, it says packet might be corrupted or u r not allowed to open the file. check the permission of the file
[12:43] <candy> Screamo_Smurf, what to do??
[12:43] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: then you edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf , you can do it with sudo nano or gksudo gedit or whatever you prefer
[12:43] <Marwin_li> come si scarica la musica?
[12:44] <Myrtti> !it > Marwin_li
[12:44] <Bauldrick> I cant get touchpad to work in ubuntu-remix on my acer netbook, any tips?
[12:44] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, i got command not found doing that backup
[12:44] <Screamo_Smurf> there is no resolve.conf on my system
[12:44] <Screamo_Smurf> only a resolveconf folder
[12:45] <sloopy> Screamo_Smurf, is there on in that directory?
[12:45] <Screamo_Smurf> no
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> I thought it was /etc/resolov.conf  (no e)
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:46]  * Dr_Willis corrects his spelling
[12:46] <ouyes> i need your help, this is strange: i can create, delete, copy file to my ntfs partition but i can not copy files from ntfs partition to my ext4 home folder. what is wrong?
[12:46] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, ok that dhcp file is confusing lol, which do i change to the dns I need
[12:46] <Screamo_Smurf> just a folder update-libc.d with a file in it: avahi-daemon
[12:46] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: go to the bottom of the file, and add "prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220;" without the quotes in the end
[12:47] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, is that second one supposed to have 5 octets?
[12:48] <Jimi_Neutral> sorry read that wrong lol
[12:48] <Jimi_Neutral> got it
[12:48] <Akmens> where can i see partition warnings?
[12:48] <blekos> hello I am experimenting with iwconfig and get this error message
[12:48] <blekos>   SET failed on device eth0 ; Operation not supported.
[12:48] <MASARUwota> Akmens > what kind of warnings do you mean?
[12:48] <Akmens> ive ended partitioning with gparted and it shows i have 4 warnings
[12:48] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, ok added that on the end and done a networking restart
[12:49] <Akmens> or i can skip it?
[12:49] <MASARUwota> Akmens probably :X
[12:49] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: then you should be ready to go
[12:50] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, it still has not done anything....the bottom of that file had a #} was it supposed to be in them brackets?
[12:50] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: no
[12:51] <Wunderkind> have a problem connecting to a visible and working wireless connection
[12:51] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, hmmm
[12:51] <Wunderkind> i can ping myself but no other websites
[12:52] <Screamo_Smurf> ping 8.8.8.8 Wunderkind
[12:52] <Hohoo> Why should I sign Code of Conduct when I can't even generate an OpenPGP key?
[12:54] <Screamo_Smurf> how do you spell natilus?
[12:54] <Hohoo> nautilus
[12:54] <jussi01> nautilus
[12:54] <panfist_> is there a linux equivalent to the windows tool netscan.exe?
[12:54] <Screamo_Smurf> thank you :D
[12:55] <MASARUwota> panfist_ uuhm, what does netscan do?
[12:55] <kangarooo> why #ubuntu-locoteams is not being logged?
[12:55] <jussi01> kangarooo: probably better to ask that in the channel itsself
[12:55] <panfist_> you give it an ip range, for example 192.168.1.1-255, it pings all the computers in the range, finds out hostname, scans for listening services, etc
[12:55] <Bauldrick> I cant get touchpad to work in ubuntu on my acer netbook, any tips?
[12:56] <MASARUwota> panfist_ like netcat?
[12:56] <erUSUL> !info  nmap | panfist_
[12:56] <panfist_> i have a smallish sized statically configured network that i'd like to convert to DHCP but keep the ip addresses all the same
[12:56] <MASARUwota> panfist_ nmap
[12:56] <erUSUL> ubottu: ?
[12:56] <panfist_> thanks
[12:56] <Hohoo> How do I get an OpenPGP key?
[12:56] <MASARUwota> erUSUL its a bot :/
[12:56] <Hohoo> Seahorse hates me
[12:56] <jussi01> !test
[12:56] <Wunderkind> does nobody in here have any assistance that they can provide?
[12:56] <erUSUL> Hohoo: generate it.
[12:57] <MASARUwota> !anyone|Wunderkind
[12:57] <panfist_>  basically i just need to get a table that shows mac addresses and ips for computers on my local network
[12:57] <Hohoo> I can only generate general errors
[12:57] <erUSUL> MASARUwota: i've been using ubottu (former ubotu) for years ;)
[12:57] <Wunderkind> that wasn't my first question MASARUwota
[12:57] <erUSUL> Hohoo: gpg --gen-key
[12:57] <Wunderkind> try scrolling up
[12:58] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, still not worknig bud
[12:58] <abhijit_> Wunderking repeat ur question
[12:58] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: :-(
[12:58] <MASARUwota> Wunderkind what "problems " do you have with it then? youre not really detailed are you
[12:58] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: have you tried to ask the network admins if they are aware of any problems in the network dns yet?
[12:59] <js_> which way should i take to upgrade from gutsy server to 9.10?
[12:59] <Wunderkind> i have an internet connection but with no actual internet
[12:59] <js_> i suppose i need to go between versions and cant go directly to 9.10
[12:59] <Myrtti> js_: full reinstall is probablly easiest
[12:59] <Wunderkind> it connects, it does the whole dhcpcd thing but then theres no internet to speak of..
[12:59] <erUSUL> js_: 7.10 --> 8.04 --> 8.10 --> 9.04 --> 9.10
[13:00] <js_> Myrtti: yeah, i know.. but also messier for my situation
[13:00] <js_> erUSUL: allright, as i thought
[13:00] <erUSUL> js_: would be better to update just to 8.04 LTS and thn wait for 10.04 in april and do 8.04 --> 10.04
[13:00] <Hohoo> gpg --gen-key thinks there is no writable public keyring: eof
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> upgrading 5 release versions.. thats scary
[13:00] <Wunderkind> anyone?
[13:00] <erUSUL> js_: or reinstall
[13:00] <js_> erUSUL: ah, good idea
[13:00] <abhijit_> atleast not me
[13:01] <jussi01> erg
[13:01] <CakeBomb> My monitor won't display the GUI and there's no xorg.conf file, so I'm trying to run Xorg -configure to create one, but it tells me there's already an X server running
[13:01] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, i am the network admin and its fine cause all the other boxs and pc are ok
[13:01] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: X-D
[13:02] <js_> erUSUL: hardy is still the current lts? so i'll get security upgrades until 10.4?
[13:02] <erUSUL> js_: correct;
[13:03] <erUSUL> js_: five years of updats for server iirc
[13:03] <erUSUL> !eol > js_
[13:03] <fanshouxiang> is there someone using fluent6.3?
[13:04] <Screamo_Smurf> network manager is overidding my dns settings :(
[13:04] <Jimi_Neutral> brb
[13:05] <js_> erUSUL: thanks, is there any special recommended tool i should use when doing the upgrade in the terminal?
[13:05] <erUSUL> js_: the updagrade intructions have that info ...
[13:05] <erUSUL> !upgrade > js_
[13:05] <js_> thanks again :)
[13:05] <erUSUL> yw
[13:06] <Hohoo> erUSUL: It thinks there is no writable and public keyring.
[13:06] <harsszegi> whats wrong with feisty so no support any longer there is support for earlier version
[13:07] <erUSUL> Hohoo: ls -l ~/.gnupg/*
[13:07] <erUSUL> !eol | harsszegi
[13:07] <matthew001> hello guys, i installed the latest version of ubuntu yesterday and it was working fine all day, however when i went to log on today it came up saying gnome power management error and returned me to the log in screen....anyone got any ideas??
[13:08] <harsszegi> how com my machine takes only feisty?
[13:09] <matthew001> can anyone offer any help please im really stuck
[13:09] <erUSUL> Hohoo: why do the files belong to root?
[13:09] <harsszegi> feisty installs all other dont
[13:10] <matthew001> are my messages being recieved in the chat??
[13:10] <Hohoo> erUSUL: at one point I tried 'sudo seahorse'
[13:10] <erUSUL> Hohoo: very bad ....
[13:10] <anto9us> matthew001, yes
[13:10] <erUSUL> !gksudo | Hohoo
[13:11] <erUSUL> Hohoo: never use sudo with gui's
[13:11] <Hohoo> I meant gksudo.
[13:11] <matthew001> cool, guess no one can help?
[13:11] <rcombo> which ubuntu is more suited for simple web dev / des out of the box , server or desktop ?
[13:11] <anto9us> matthew001, it keeps returning you to the log in screen?
[13:11] <harsszegi>     width: 32 bits
[13:11] <harsszegi>   *-core
[13:11] <harsszegi>        description: Motherboard
[13:11] <harsszegi>        physical id: 0
[13:11] <harsszegi>      *-memory
[13:11] <FloodBot2> harsszegi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <harsszegi>           description: System memory
[13:11] <Wunderkind> how do i rectify a dns problem?
[13:11] <erUSUL> Hohoo: sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.gnupg/
[13:12] <matthew001> yes and gives a power management error message
[13:12] <harsszegi> it was partial lshw
[13:13] <matthew001> anto9us: yes and it gives me a power management error message
[13:13] <pomp> haer
[13:14] <pomp> привет
[13:14] <Hohoo> erUSUL: It worked
[13:14] <max3> does anyone have any google wave invites
[13:14] <max3> ?
[13:14] <pomp> казлы
[13:15] <max3> pomp: asol
[13:15] <Hohoo> max3: I have
[13:15] <harsszegi> hjow com feisty installs  --all others wont
[13:15] <anto9us> matthew001, you can get to a terminal window by pressing ctrl+alt+F1, to get back to GDM log in is usally ctrl+alt+F7 or another Fkey. Log into a terminal and do sudo apt-get update, Then do sudo apt get upgrade and restart your computer.
[13:15] <Freeaqingme> max3, pm me your email and I'll send you one
[13:15] <max3> Hohoo: can i have one?
[13:15] <Hohoo> max3: sure.
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> rcombo:  if you want to use a desktop/gui/X - id sayuse teh desktop version
[13:16] <MASARUwota> lol i have like 20 or something. :/
[13:16] <aapzak> guys, my laptop won't boot after I upgraded a clean install of karmic, it stops after the diskcheck, any suggestions?
[13:16] <rcombo> Dr_Willis: yep I do , tx
[13:16] <MASARUwota> aapzak did you try runlevel3 booting?
[13:16] <aapzak> MASARUwota: not yet
[13:17] <aapzak> should I alter the grub lines to do that?
[13:17] <MASARUwota> aapzak give that a go. (press 'e' during the grub boot, and edit the 2nd row, add a "3" to the end and boot)
[13:17] <matthew001> anto9us:thankyou i will try that now
[13:17] <llutz> MASARUwota: 2-5 are equal,
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[13:17] <MASARUwota> :\
[13:17] <llutz> matthew001: no need to try, won't make any difference
[13:18] <aapzak> I'm about to chroot into the disk ..
[13:18] <llutz> MASARUwota: another *buntuism :(
[13:18] <MASARUwota> llutz: :/ im using arch myself
[13:18] <MASARUwota> so idk
[13:18] <archboxman> !upstart
[13:18] <MASARUwota> bsd-style init ftw
[13:19] <llutz> "is meant to replace" != replaces
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> bsd style... getting phased out...
[13:19] <MASARUwota> but its nice ;__;
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> aparently others think its lacking.. thus the inventioon of Upstart
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if the next release will be 100% upstart scripts or not
[13:19] <erUSUL> llutz: to be fair that's debianism (the fact that all runlevels are equal)
[13:20] <llutz> Dr_Willis: upstart seem to lack a ton of things too (yet) ;(
[13:20] <fanshouxiang> i install freewins and screen saver in the compiz ,there's no error report,but i just can't find the button in it.someone have any ideas?
[13:20] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: do not think so; to many init scripts to rewritte.
[13:20] <MASARUwota> fanshouxiang which button are you looking for?
[13:20] <llutz> erUSUL: is it?then sorry, none of my debians have X
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL:  well just looking here. seems i got about 20 init scripts still using the sysv stuff.
[13:21] <MASARUwota> Dr_Willis event driven seems nice tho
[13:21] <BettyFord-failed> hello
[13:21] <MASARUwota> !hi|BettyFord-failed
[13:21] <BettyFord-failed> hi marasuruwat
[13:21] <matthew001> anto9us: thankyou very much thats worked perfectly!!
[13:21] <BettyFord-failed> are you Zulu?
[13:22] <anto9us> matthew001, :)
[13:22] <panfist_> i read this in a forum post: "if you copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives from one computer to another, and then sudo apt-get upgrade, both computers will have the same packges" ... is this safe? does it work between 32 bit and 64 bit hosts?
[13:22] <fanshouxiang> the plug-in i install
[13:22] <BettyFord-failed> no
[13:23] <BettyFord-failed> because 64 bit have 64bit packages
[13:23] <matthew001> anto9us: is it ok to pm you to ask a couple more questions?
[13:23] <psicobra> hi all i have found a driver for my fingerprint reader but it is a .c file i have no idea what to do with it
[13:23] <raik> how to browse net of computer from mobile by connecting usb or bluetooth?
[13:23] <anto9us> matthew001, sure, ask to channel and if I or anyone knows, they'll answer :)
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> psicobra:  .c = source code.. and proberly going to be not trivial to get going
[13:23] <MASARUwota> BettyFord-failed no im not zulu, its japanese ;-:
[13:24] <panfist_> bettyford-failed but all the important packages typically have the same names...it's usually the libs that have 32 or 64 in the name
[13:24] <psicobra> so i need ot compile it?
[13:24] <aapzak> ah, chrooting learns me an upgrade process was unfinished
[13:24] <BettyFord-failed> raik you cant, because you are in another subnet, and samba doesnt support smb protocol forwarding
[13:24] <aapzak> stupid wizard asked me to reboot before upgrades were done
[13:25] <BettyFord-failed> raik: mount your network drives locally and share it on your local pc a workaround, sharing samba shares
[13:25] <linuxgirl> hi guys
[13:25] <aapzak> hey girl
[13:25] <BettyFord-failed> hello linuxboy
[13:26] <linuxgirl> im not a boy
[13:26] <Plouj> hi
[13:26] <BettyFord-failed> are you a rebadged girl or something?
[13:26] <MASARUwota> hi linuxgirl
[13:26] <raik> bettyford-failed ok thanks, i am going to try that
[13:26] <Plouj> how do I install only security upgrades?
[13:26] <MASARUwota> HURR A GIRL A GIRL LOOK GUYS A GIRL DURR
[13:26] <aapzak> hihi
[13:26] <MASARUwota> :/
[13:26] <BettyFord-failed> raik it works only with samba shares, it doesnt work with NFS
[13:26] <archboxman> Dr_Willis: after reading upstart seems there using both hal and udev together... Is this true.. I thought udev was still being developed by fedora...
[13:26] <cutout> I can not copy files to My flash memory it keeps saying read only file system??!!  what can I do?
[13:26] <BettyFord-failed> after reading after i concluded the exhaust
[13:27] <harsszegi> raik   download gprsec
[13:27] <MASARUwota> cutout remount with rw
[13:27] <BettyFord-failed> believe me, i'm a liar, everything i write is true
[13:27] <raik> bettyford-failed i am in ubuntu, does that help
[13:27] <BettyFord-failed> raik: i hope so
[13:27] <raik> harsszegi ok i will try that
[13:27] <cutout> how??
[13:27] <MASARUwota> cutout: sudo mount -t <filesystem> <devicename> <mountpoint> -o rw,remount
[13:28] <harsszegi> raik do u want to browse with gprs?
[13:28] <cutout> what is the filesystem?
[13:28] <BettyFord-failed> ganjafs
[13:28] <raik> harsszegi yes
[13:28] <MASARUwota> cutout you should know that yourself :/
[13:28] <MASARUwota> cutout have you used it on windows?
[13:29] <archboxman> cutout: make sure you don't have a switch on usb device set for read only you have to switch the device to read write.. some usb sticks have switch
[13:29] <harsszegi> raik if u plug in the chgord gnome will open the connection right off
[13:29] <raik> harsszegi is any other connection possible
[13:29] <MASARUwota> archboxman lol
[13:29] <harsszegi> what u got?
[13:29] <cutout> yes I have used it on windows
[13:30] <daemin> 大家好
[13:30] <raik> harsszegi i want to use internet of computer on mobile, is that what you are replying for?
[13:31] <ouyes> hi all, my problem is more clear now , i can copy files from my ntfs partition to my ext4 home fold via file manager, but i can not do any copy directly to desktop, is it strange?
[13:31] <cutout> thanks it worked :)
[13:31] <MASARUwota> cutout :/
[13:31] <harsszegi> internet of mobile on computer
[13:32] <raik> harsszegi you misunderstood me
[13:32] <harsszegi> click on my name raik
[13:33] <archboxman> MASARUwota: please tell me they didn't have the usb stick locked???? huh
[13:33] <zilkomaa> Does someone have any good tips / tweaks to ubuntu 9.10 64bit? I would love to take all the benefits in use what this awesome os offers!.Thank you.
[13:33] <MASARUwota> archboxman dunno what he did to fix it
[13:33] <Otacon22Uni> Does anyone knows how can I update my kernel version on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[13:33] <Otacon22Uni> wich is the meta-package to install?
[13:33] <icek0ld> apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> zilkomaa:  check google for the 'ubuntu-tweak' tool. but we have to wonder what sort of tweaks you are looking for,
[13:34] <Otacon22Uni> yes, but on dist-upgrade there isn't the last kernel
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> zilkomaa:  theres not a lot of tweeking needed.. except for somne settings you may like to change..
[13:34] <BettyFord-failed> i got a problem
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Otacon22Uni:  ubuntu dosent keep cutting edge up to date with kernel versions
[13:35] <BettyFord-failed> i cannot run the tony clifton emulator
[13:35] <BettyFord-failed> i got  a error in module kaufman
[13:35] <archboxman> Otacon22Uni: they maintain a database and only release stable kernel ... you need to try slackware or archlinux for this its a rolling release or cutting edge distro
[13:35] <BeepBeep> Anyone know what is the chatroom for Xubuntu?
[13:35] <komsas> exit
[13:36] <DJones> BeepBeep: #xubuntu
[13:36] <BeepBeep> Thanks
[13:37] <goodtime> oh man i messed up
[13:37] <archboxman> Otacon22Uni: remember if you go to slackware or archlinux you are required to do a lot more updates and configuration of xorg and more config files and this is for a expereinced linux user...
[13:37] <goodtime> i deleted a ts file
[13:37] <DarkDigitalDream> If I wanted my sound to be muted after returning from hibernate mode, is there a way to do that? Opening my computer in class at 8:30 in the morning to have last nights music blasting uncontrollably for a bit causes me more trouble than I care to admit.
[13:39] <jeroendv> hi, where can i find a fortran 77 compiler for karmic in aptitude? g77 doesn't seem to exist anymore in karmic?!?
[13:39] <Otacon22Uni> archboxman, a my firend has a wireless card wich disconnect and reconnect always and some people said me to update the kernel version to remove the problem
[13:39] <ubuntu> are there any GRUB2 know-it-alls here?
[13:40] <llutz> !find fortran
[13:40] <jeroendv> !find fortran
[13:40] <archboxman> Otacon22Uni: first what is the range from the box and you signal strength???
[13:40] <llutz> bot sleeps
[13:40] <archboxman> Otacon22Uni: iwlist
[13:41] <Pici> jeroendv: apt-cache search fortran | grep 77   reveals a few packages that might be useful to you.  I don't know enough about Fortran to know if they definitely are though.
[13:41] <Screamo_Smurf> oh man :(
[13:41] <Otacon22Uni> archboxman, the access point is at 1 mt of distance -.-
[13:41] <indus> ubuntu hello
[13:41] <Screamo_Smurf> my dns wont work anymore :(
[13:42] <indus> ubuntu still stuck with error 15?
[13:42] <archboxman> Otacon22Uni: came to right man those are radio waves if your to close the signal can pass over the access point
[13:42] <Screamo_Smurf> still cant get it to use a custom dns server :'(
[13:42] <llutz> jeroendv: gfortran
[13:43] <zilkomaa> Dr_Willis: Thank you for your reply, i have ubuntu tweak. Well i mean is there like a  need for processor driver etc?..i'll have done pretty much all what after install is good to do.
[13:43] <JonathanEllis> Is there an appointment management app for Ubuntu that handles billing?
[13:43] <DexterLB> hi
[13:44] <jeroendv> llutz: gfortan is a fortran 95 compiler, will it also compile fortran 77 code?
[13:44] <llutz> jeroendv: not sure, sorry
[13:45] <xro> hi...
[13:45] <jeke> I amtrying to unload the vmnet module however it is used by one other module accoring to lsmod "vmnet                  40060  1"  I do not know how to find the module that is using vmnet how would i find this out?
[13:46] <archboxman> Otacon22Uni: the other problem is if the laptop or desktop has shielding on the sides or bottom the signal will also miss the access point because it is one directional antenna instead of a omni directional annneta short for all around directional antenna
[13:46] <xro> i have a trouble with cron... www-data (apache user) has to start remote shell with cron... i write command in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/www-data , but it's like cron nerver read this file....
[13:47] <DexterLB> hmm internet connection dropped
[13:47] <Pici> jeroendv: You could try fort77 and f2c
[13:47] <DexterLB> so I'll repeat the question
[13:47] <DexterLB> I have a server that is only CLI, and has no soundcerd. Can I install pulseaudio there and make devices discoverable on other computers?
[13:47] <bigpresh> xro: Use the crontab command to edit crontabs, don't edit directly in /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[13:47] <bigpresh> xro: e.g. sudo crontab -e -u www-data
[13:48] <Slart> DexterLB: I can't see a reason why you shouldn't be able to run pulseaudio on a computer without a sound card.. not really sure what you mean by "discoverable" though.. you can play audio on another computer using pulseaudio if that's what you mean
[13:48] <bigpresh> xro: Also, make sure that all commands you put in the crontab end with a newline; at least some cron daemons will silently ignore ones which don't (e.g. if it's the last line of the file)
[13:48] <DexterLB> Slart: yes, that's what I mean
[13:49] <Slart> DexterLB: afaik that's one of the major features of pulseaudio.. that is's network transparent
[13:49] <DexterLB> Slart: but I have no experience with pulseaudio's config files, I've only used the GUI's, so I'm a n00b there
[13:49] <zumbrujm> hi all, just wondering how online documentation is typically stored: html files, database entries, or xml documents.
[13:49] <DexterLB> Slart: could you link to a tutorial or something?
[13:49] <Slart> DexterLB: there is a pulseaudio manager.. "paman". Try using that
[13:49] <DexterLB> oh ok
[13:50] <Slart> DexterLB: I've never configured pulseaudio using config files directly
[13:50] <icek0ld> google subject tutorial
[13:50] <BettyFord-failed> ANALFACE
[13:50] <BettyFord-failed> !rude
[13:50] <SPhcT> my webcam dont work on Ubuntu 9.10 what i must do?
[13:50] <BettyFord-failed> shpc get windows
[13:50] <Slart> !ops | BettyFord-failed
[13:50] <DexterLB> Slart: paman is gui :(
[13:50] <DexterLB> Slart: i've got a cli-only system
[13:51] <DexterLB> Slart: no X, no videocard, no VNC
[13:51] <icek0ld> dual boot not affraid
[13:51] <Slart> DexterLB: yes.. ahhh.. sorry.. you were running server.. sorry.. forgot that
[13:51] <icek0ld> can u read
[13:51] <SPhcT> where i can find drivers for webcam?
[13:51] <xro> bigpresh, but it's a python script that writes in my /var/spool/cron/crontabs... why i can't write in this file?
[13:51] <erUSUL> !webcam
[13:51] <Slart> DexterLB: hang.. let me see what I can find
[13:51] <jussi01> DexterLB: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:52] <DexterLB> well I'm not using ubuntu server
[13:52] <DexterLB> I'm using regular ubuntu
[13:52] <DexterLB> but with gui removed
[13:52] <bigpresh> xro: I believe crond will ignore you, as the changes should be made with the crontab command
[13:53] <indus> SPhcT, which webcam? generally drivers ar enot required
[13:53] <bigpresh> xro: You can overwrite the current crontab with one from a file using 'crontab -e -u username filename'
[13:54] <bigpresh> xro: Also, beware that if the machine is configured correctly, the www-data user won't have a shell.  If that's the case, cron won't run any commands for them
[13:54] <Slart> DexterLB: couldn't really find anything useful about running pulseaudio without X.. launchpad seems to be offline at the moment
[13:55] <xro> bigpresh, i added a shell
[13:56] <xro> bigpresh, crontab -e -u www-data /var/spool/cron/crontabs/www-data   -->  crontab: usage error: no arguments permitted after this option
[13:56] <zumbrujm> join /##php-support
[13:57] <Slart> DexterLB: this might be useful http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/CLI
[13:57] <bigpresh> xro: Apologies, omit the -e option if you want it to read a crontab from a file, as opposed to launching an editor to edit the crontab
[13:57] <DexterLB> thanks
[13:58] <xro> bigpresh, crontab -u www-data /var/spool/cron/crontabs/www-data  that works fine
[13:58] <xro> bigpresh, but that means i can't edit my crontab with python?
[13:59] <xro> bigpresh, or should do a --> os.system("crontab -u www-data /var/spool/cron/crontabs/www-data")
[13:59] <bigpresh> xro: That ought to work, if a bit bodgy
[14:00] <SPhcT> how i can now what webcam have my pc?
[14:00] <llutz> SPhcT: lsusb
[14:00] <michaeldobrovits> lsusb
[14:00] <bigpresh> SPhcT: You might get some ideas with lsusb | grep -i cam
[14:01] <bigpresh> (Assuming that your webcam identifies itself with a name including 'cam'; it might not; in that case, just lsusb and look for it)
[14:01] <SPhcT> maybe it is Genesys Logic
[14:01] <guaaPiisiiMaa> olaa
[14:02] <SPhcT> where i find driver for it tryed cheese dont work
[14:02] <SetiAmon> hey with linux do you need to worry about "secure deletion" i mean if i delete something in linux is it really deleted?
[14:02] <miliear> 111
[14:03] <kwork> SetiAmon,  if you delete smt in any operating system is it really deleted ?
[14:03] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, no, check for shred command
[14:03] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: The space on disk is marked as no longer used, but the data is still there, and could be retrieved
[14:03] <xro> bigpresh, ok so it's not possible to directly write in the crontab files... it works in /etc/crontab but not in /var/spool/cron/.../www-data     do you understant it?
[14:03] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, if it doesn't exist install it in synaptics
[14:03] <SetiAmon> Yeah I have SRM i generally do a   srm * -V when i want to get rid of files
[14:03] <bigpresh> xro: Yes - you shouldn't mess with the files in /var/spool/cron as I originally said :)
[14:04] <bigpresh> xro: Or, if you do mess with them, be aware that crond won't notice
[14:04] <SetiAmon> So other then SRM and LVX is there anyway to improve my security?
[14:04] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: Don't store stuff you don't want someone to find? :)
[14:04] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, shreding the disc
[14:04] <michaeldobrovits> type man shred in console
[14:05] <SPhcT> So i need driver for this part: Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc.
[14:05] <bigpresh> SPhcT: Google for 05e3:0503
[14:07] <SetiAmon> Bigpresh:well thats kind of diffacult,dont you have personal or business information on your computer you don't want others to find?
[14:07] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: I was joking, hence the smiley
[14:08] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: To securely delete a file, try the 'shred' command as mentioned by michaeldobrovits
[14:08] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: You could also consider whole-disc encryption, which will help if the hardware was physically stolen
[14:09] <SPhcT> bigpresh: ty for now...
[14:09] <Vkr324> Hey everyone, I have a triple boot Vista-Ubuntu-Ubuntu (2 versions) and I want to remove one of the versions of ubuntu (just one, i need the other one). Do I simply reclaim that partition? effect should be GRUB with dual boot Vista-Ubuntu
[14:10] <al1irv> I've got anAsus eeepc model 904 running XP wjat's thebest to put on on it, ubuntu remix, eeebuntu or easypeasy and what's the difference?
[14:10] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, encryption can be dencrypted but it will need the goverment to come and get a warrent to use somekind of super computer to decrypt
[14:11] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, if this is not the deal you can just shred and make the data overwritten by anychance of recovery
[14:12] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: Where is Grub  installed, into the MBR like normal?
[14:12] <Vkr324> yes
[14:12] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: Ok one of those versions of Ubuntu well it's Grub, will control your Grub, any idea which?
[14:12] <manchurian> hello is there anybody with experience of mantis on ubuntu?
[14:13] <Vkr324> i guess the first one I put on there seeing as i used grub from that point on. or does overlaying another ubuntu give that ubuntu the grub?
[14:13] <Vkr324> any way of checking this?
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: typing wrong thing there, anyway I mean to put  that  one of those versions of Ubuntu, it's Grub will control it all
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: Which versions are on there? Which did you put on first?
[14:14] <Vkr324> first the 8.04, then the most recent one, but that one doesn't seem to agree with my asus so I'd like to remove it for now
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if you delete the wrong /boot   your Grub boot longer will no longer work
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: well it will show Grub menu, but it won't boot stuff
[14:14] <manchurian> mantis can not send e-mail to new users signed up
[14:14] <Vkr324> yeah I figured, any way of figuring out which of the two is controlling the grub?
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: ok
[14:15] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: then you put 9.10 on,  and it just worked/
[14:15] <sebsebseb> ?
[14:15] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: could boot them both up?
[14:15] <Vkr324> yeah it all boots fine, but there's some issues in the latest version i have not time to deal with for the moment, so i'd like to get rid of that partition
[14:16] <manchurian> nobody?
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: are you on Ubuntu now?
[14:16] <Vkr324> nope, different machine (mac)
[14:16] <hipitihop> is there a graphical diff tool that easily lets me compare files in different directories .. actually one set is via an ssh session
[14:16] <Mateo_> :(  i still have my grub problem ... i've installed ubuntu with wubi times ago, and this morning computer shutted off, after a reboot, when i choose Ubuntu on the selection page, i get a page with GRUB4DOS Memory  625K / 3063M menuend: 0x4352E
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: well first you need to find out which  install is controlling Grub
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: it's probably 8.04 since that went on first, but maybe not
[14:16] <Vkr324> ok, any way of checking this?
[14:17] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: sure, but  need to be on Ubuntu really
[14:17] <erUSUL> hipitihop: meld?
[14:17] <Vkr324> also, will the grub figure out that a partition has been deleted and not show that OS in the list anymore?
[14:17] <hipitihop> erUSUL, looking it up, thanks
[14:17] <Vkr324> or will it show the os and then simply fault when you try to boot it
[14:17] <SPhcT> ho i can install widows driver for webcam..?
[14:17] <hoonteke> anyone have any word on this HAL removal business?  I'm specifically worried about the ability to use my touchpad with Lucid ...
[14:17] <rcombo> Hi all, has anyone successfully burnt ubuntu 9.10 desktop I keep having "errors found on 2 files" after a disk check run
[14:17] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: no I don't think so, but that can be edited,  hopefuly it's  the 8.04 Grub that is controlling it all, since  that's easier to deal with than this new Grub 2, for most of us
[14:18] <howlymowly> hi guys.. short question:  i put the "swallower" applet in my gnome panel.. but I can not remove it anymore.. it keeps asking me for a window to swallow on every log in..  any idea how to remove that applet?  I am not able to click on it in the panel, since for some reason its invisible...
[14:18] <soreau> ! webcam | SPhcT
[14:18] <Vkr324> by editing that, do you mean something like the boot.ini?
[14:18] <SPhcT> grate...
[14:18] <michaeldobrovits> rcombo, probably and error
[14:18] <hoonteke> rcombo: yep.  Burnt lots of copies of it.  Are you sure you have an error-free iso?  Consider using torrent to download instead as that will guarantee it's error free
[14:18] <Vkr324> but then ubuntu style
[14:18] <SPhcT> i alredy tryet that
[14:18] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: oh it's you who i was talking earlier right ?
[14:18] <sebsebseb> Vlet: can you turn that computer on now?  and when Grub shows, what does it say at the top if anything?
[14:18] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: yeah
[14:19] <sebsebseb> Vlet:  whoops wrong one,   Vkr324 see above
[14:19] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: i'm now on a livecd , can you send me again the link please ?
[14:19] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: link to what, dual boot?
[14:19] <Mateo_> yep
[14:20] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: oh you were the one that wanted to get data from Wubi?
[14:20] <Vkr324> can't access that computer now, but I'll check once i can get to it. how do i then edit the list of OSses that the grub shows? in the remaining ubuntu right?
[14:20] <hipitihop> erUSUL, heh software center fails to install meld due to untrusted sources..checking if synaptic does better
[14:20] <Mateo_> at least get the data and if i can, get my wubi install back with everything ...
[14:20] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  Mateo_
[14:21] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: in the long run it's better to use real partitions,  also  it's possible to convert a Wubi install into real partitions, but you have some issue with that, so I guess just do real partitions, once you got data
[14:21] <jeke> I think i have deleted a loaded kernel module can i still unload that module?
[14:21] <icek0ld> whenever I change my host/computer name it's seems to say host:name unresolved
[14:21] <icek0ld> any fix
[14:21] <rcombo> hoonteke: my last attempt was with a torrent client kget but I ended up with the same result, i'm going through my 4th wasted cd :(
[14:21] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, having real trouble connecting ot the internet.
[14:21] <Jimi_Neutral> i can ping
[14:21] <Jimi_Neutral> everything is the same as the other obxes
[14:22] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if it says Grub beta 4 or something like that at the top, then you got Grub 2  karmc/9.10's  Grub
[14:22] <Jimi_Neutral> that work
[14:22] <hoonteke> rcombo: step 2: consider using cd-rw then, not cd-rs
[14:22] <erUSUL> Jimi_Neutral: all in one line
[14:22] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: Windows is on there as well?
[14:22] <hoonteke> rcombo: also, consider installing to a USB key instead
[14:22] <Vkr324> yah
[14:22] <Jimi_Neutral> erUSUL, yeah sorry, having a very stressy day
[14:22] <Vkr324> vista sadly
[14:22] <hoonteke> I believe there's a utility in 9.04 called USB Creator.
[14:22] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: i'm going to take a look but if i can't get it bak, how can i get my data from a wubi ?
[14:23] <erUSUL> Jimi_Neutral: no need to be sorry. in multiple lines is hard to follow you. so it is in your interest
[14:23] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: What's your partition set up like, it seems you want to remove the other Ubuntu to make space,  if you had set up partitions properly enough in the first place, then there probably woudn't be a need to remove another partition,  other than simpally to get rid of it, because not wanting that version
[14:23] <icek0ld> ok
[14:23] <icek0ld> ok
[14:23] <icek0ld> whenever I change my host/computer name it's seems to say host:name unresolved
[14:23] <Jimi_Neutral> erUSUL, yeah I know, forgot though, as I said, evey stressy day with people on my back and was typing how im talking at the moment lol
[14:23] <FloodBot2> icek0ld: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:23] <hoonteke> rcombo: it also may be an issue that you're burning too fast for the media.  try burning at a slower speed, like 4x.
[14:24] <sebsebseb> Anyone about at the moment that knows how to get data from the wubi file?   If so Mateo_  would benefit from your help
[14:24] <rcombo>  hoonteke: tx, could be as well the burning speed
[14:24] <Jimi_Neutral> So, my internet connection is fine, i am talking to you on this box which is in a switch which is in a router downstairs....the box that wont connect is in this switch too....it pings this machine and this machine pings that one it also pings 8.8.8.8 but it wont connect to the internet
[14:24] <hoonteke> rcombo:  tx?
[14:25] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: sometimes people in here who know wubi quite well, but this doesn't seem like one of those times
[14:25] <Vkr324> small business running on ubuntu, one of my colleagues "accidentally" installed the newest ubuntu as a third boot alongside vista and U8.04, but is not pleased with it and wants to get rid of it (just wants it out of the grub list, really, for neatness). So I'll just go into Vista, delete the 9.10 partition and that's that?
[14:25] <hoonteke> oh, thanks.  yeesh, spell it out.  :-P
[14:25] <phong_> sebsebseb, hi
[14:25] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: what is the wubi file? the image file? maybe it can be mounted throug a loop device?
[14:25] <phong_> sebsebseb, how are you?
[14:25] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: yes that's what I mean
[14:25] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Sounds like a nameserver issue. What is in /etc/resolv.conf?
[14:25] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: ok I think erUSUL  can help you, but you will need to tell him what your trying to do or want to do and all that
[14:26] <jpt9> Hey.  I just set up an Ubuntu 9.10 box with ssh.  I'm having some problems getting the terminal type/encoding matched up.  I'm using both PuTTY and ssh under Cygwin on my Windows box to connect...
[14:26] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: thank you very much
[14:26] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, cant open it
[14:26] <icek0ld> I entered my desired computer name under host in the .conf
[14:26] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: gksu gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[14:27] <SPhcT> ow i can install windows webcam driver for ubuntu 9.10
[14:27] <icek0ld> whenever I run sudo the host says unresolved but code still runs
[14:27] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: his Wubi won't load,  he has some data he wants to get hold of, important data,  so that's what he wants help with at the moment
[14:27] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: Mateo_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20can%20I%20access%20the%20Wubi%20files%20from%20Windows?
[14:27] <rcombo>  hoonteke: I am using a an cd drive emulator when on Xp to test the iso, and it loads ton of error msg
[14:27] <soreau> ! webcam | SPhcT
[14:27] <Mateo_> erUSUL: actually i'm running a liveCD  if it's easier
[14:27] <SPhcT> soreau show me where is writen about windows there?
[14:28] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: when your ready to do real partitions,  I can help you set up a good set up
[14:28] <soreau> SPhcT: You dont want to use windows drivers on linux.
[14:28] <hoonteke> rcombo: you're using winxp to test the ISO?  The CD can actually test itself.  Try to boot the current machine with the CD you just burned.  The very first menu you get will give you the option to "Check CD for defects"
[14:28] <erUSUL> Mateo_: see the instructions under How can I access my Wubi install and repair my install if it won't boot?
[14:28] <hoonteke> that will tell you more definitively if youv'e errors, than any emulator in Windows.
[14:28] <erUSUL> Mateo_: that tells you how to mount the wubi disk from a livecd once is mounted you can access the data inside
[14:28] <jeke> How can i check if ssh will start on reboot
[14:29] <Vkr324> @sebsebseb could you please confirm that if the grub is not controlled by the 9.10 deleting that partition from Vista will make the machine still boot in grub and only show two OSs? Tnx.
[14:29] <SPhcT> soureau i want because i dont have any other drivers...
[14:29] <Mateo_> erUSUL: or maybe you know what happened there, i have an error like GRUB4DOS 4.4.0 .. Memory: ... MenuEnd:: 0x ...  and a prompt line
[14:29] <hoonteke> rcombo: why are you using a drive emulator to begin with?  If you're trying to do a virtual install or test, just use virtual box.
[14:29] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, it says ' ~#Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) #DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND - - YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[14:29] <hoonteke> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[14:29] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if you delete  the partition that has the /boot with Grub in it, that is controlling it all
[14:29] <soreau> SPhcT: Is your webcam among the supported cards in that link?
[14:29] <SPhcT> soreau: i have heard that it can be done but i dont now how..
[14:29] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: you won't be able to boot up any OS
[14:29] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: if i could do it right now and get at least my data back i would !! :)
[14:29] <erUSUL> Mateo_: no; sorry. but in that wiki page there are troubleshotting guides hope it helps
[14:29] <Vkr324> no if i delete the other partition, the one that's not controlling the grub
[14:30] <Mateo_> erUSUL: i will take a look thanks
[14:30] <erUSUL> Mateo_: get to the data should be easy enough. you can do that first
[14:30] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: There needs to be a line in there like this for example, to use googles public name server:  nameserver 8.8.8.8
[14:30] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, there is nothing but what i gave you
[14:30] <Mateo_> erUSUL: yep, i'm looking for it in the guide
[14:31] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, i know the DNS server address we use, i can look it up on cmd on my windows laptop, that will work wont it?
[14:31] <rcombo> hoonteke: no I am using both ways, with a drive emulator sometimes and always with self - testing prgm from the cd and both come up with errors
[14:31] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: that's what happens when people remove Ubuntu,  and keep WIndows,  the /boot goes, but a tiny bit of Grub is still left on the MBR (Master  Boot Record) with the enteries,  but  then it can't boot stuff up because the actsaul Grub has been deleted.   Then  to boot Windows two options,  to  boot Ubuntu well Grub can be re installed.  However it's easier to not delete Grub in the first place in your case.
[14:31] <SPhcT> soreau Genesys Logic Inc. no there are not..
[14:31] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: I would suggest commenting all those lines (by adding a # at the beginning of each) then add a line: nameserver IP
[14:31] <SPhcT> soreau but it seems like company name for camera
[14:32] <hoonteke> rcombo: alright, so you've burn errors.  well, make sure you have a good ISO: boot with it inside of VirtualBox.
[14:32] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, they are commented
[14:32] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Where IP is the ip address of your name server
[14:32] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, ok i will giev that a try
[14:32] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: it's easy enough to find out which one you have,  for example go into the /boot in your 8.04 partition
[14:32] <hoonteke> rcombo: you also might try a different burning program: http://infrarecorder.org/
[14:32] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Just try adding a line like: nameserver 8.8.8.8 then try to ping google.com
[14:32] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, do i end it with a ';'
[14:32] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: no
[14:33] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: uh I meant to put it's easy enough to find out which one is controlling stuff,  for example go into the /boot in your 8.04 partition.   actsaully do this gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  then for example re name your Windows entry or one of the Ubuntu enteries, and save the file, re boot the computer and see if the changes are there.   If so good that's the Grub that is being used,  and then it's fine to just delete the 9.10 partition.
[14:33] <NET||abuse> hey folks,, have a very annoying little bug, my headphones are usb headphones, absolutely iritating thing is as i reduce volume, once it hits about 30% or 25% volume, the usb headphones cut out, no volume unless it's up at about 30% again,,
[14:33] <rcombo> hoonteke: alright, gonna try that, tx for your help
[14:33] <NET||abuse> anyone heard of anything like this? #
[14:34] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, so put in that and restart the interface?
[14:34] <Vkr324> @sebsebseb thanks a bunch man, that answers my question
[14:34] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: No
[14:34] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if on the other hand it's 9.10 that is controlling things well
[14:34] <kunji> I'm running Mint 8 on my laptop (almost identical to Ubuntu 9.10) for some reason I'm not able to switch the Mint usplash with a different usplash theme, even though in startupmanager it appears to be selected, and also appears to be selected using the terminal.
[14:34] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: You said you can already ping other boxes that are connected and the router, right?
[14:34] <Vkr324> @sebsebseb yeah then I have a problem
[14:35] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, yup, looks like it is pining google too
[14:35] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: it is possible to actsaully delete everything else on the partition and just keep /boot  and then you can re size if you want, and make into a seperate /boot partition
[14:35] <SPhcT> need help with webcam drivers
[14:35] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Then it should be working now
[14:35] <Kamokow> I setup my gmail account with Evolution, and it deleted ALL my email, including my archives, off my gmail account. Is there anyway I can restore them (some arent even showing up in evolution??)?
[14:35] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, yes it is, but very slow
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> kunji:  theres a tool called 'epidermis' that is supposed to be able to cahnge splash and other gfx like that..   personally i disabel the uselss thing
[14:36] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: What ip did you use for the name server?
[14:36] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, im still on the 8.8.8.8 u suggested
[14:36] <Mateo_> erUSUL: sorry but maybe you can help me, in the guide to mount from a live CD, and in the "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /win" line, i have to replace the sda1 with the correct one, but how can i find it ?
[14:36] <kunji> I can try it, though I thought the command line method would have been most reliable.. I'll give it a shot, thanks.
[14:36] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Try your routers internal ip (or whatever is providing that pc with the net)
[14:36] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: however I guess 8.04 woudn't upgrade  that partition if doing that
[14:37] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, the default gateway?
[14:37] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Like if your routers ip is 192.168.1.1, use that
[14:37] <Vkr324> so where does GRUB find the list of OSses to choose from?
[14:37] <csirifiszkio> hello everybody
[14:38] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, im not actually sure of it, im at work
[14:38] <csirifiszkio> i need some help
[14:38] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: in /boot of the version that is controlling Grub
[14:38] <csirifiszkio> im using Karmic
[14:38] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Well you should know it
[14:38] <Vkr324> k, that should be all I need. cheers man
[14:38] <Gateway> guys do you know an equivalent of hyperterminal ?
[14:38] <hoonteke> Vkr324: because grub has the ability to read certain filesystems, it can just read it from a file.  Historically, /boot/grub/grub.cfg or /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[14:38] <SPhcT> maybe i find driver files what i have to do with all files
[14:38] <llutz> Gateway: minicom
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Gateway:  you mean a serial terminal program? theres a few in the repos i imagine. Not used any in ages
[14:39] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: you can re install Grub as well into 8.04 or well  10.04 even, assuming you upgrade that install  to  the next LTS, that's released at end of April
[14:39] <soreau> ! ask | csirifiszkio
[14:39] <sebsebseb> !grub
[14:39] <sebsebseb> !grub2
[14:39] <Gateway> llutz, I've already tried but I didn't understand how to make it work
[14:39] <soreau> SPhcT: If you find the driver source code, you would have to compile and install it
[14:39] <hoonteke> Vkr324: but you have to tell it /which/ harddrive and partition from which to read that file, which is what get's installed in the 1st and 1.5 boot-stage loaders.
[14:39] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: now you got the links above as well, now I think you got all you need
[14:40] <Vkr324> @hoonteke so deleting a partition in vista will not update this list and grub will still show this partition, right?
[14:40] <SPhcT> soureau how i can complete it? and install?
[14:40] <hoonteke> Vkr324: correct.
[14:40] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, will not using the ip addresses of the DNS server looked up using cmd on my windows machine work?
[14:40] <Vkr324> k, tnx guys
[14:40] <soreau> SPhcT: It depends on what the files are
[14:40] <hoonteke> sebsebseb: heh, hardly.  I've just finished doing some grub work, and the documentation leaves lots to be desired for folks who aren't gurus.
[14:40] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if you delete /boot the one that is being used
[14:40] <hoonteke> but, that is a start.
[14:40] <csirifiszkio> ok, sorry. where can i change video driver in Karmic, because i used to do it in xorg.conf
[14:40] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: it will be like,  what happens when people remove Ubuntu, but still have Windows on there, then  Grub can be re installed, but it's not that easy
[14:41] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: I dont understand that question
[14:41] <SPhcT> soreau: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gl860
[14:41] <sebsebseb> hoonteke: indeed those help pages, aren't that easy to follow really for newbies
[14:41] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, ok i used command line in windows to type ipconfig /all and that gives me the DNS servers....can i not use them
[14:41] <hoonteke> sebsebseb: more than not easy for noobs.  I'm hardly a noob, and I've had a hard time following that documentation.
[14:42] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: I dont know what you are asking.
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> Grub2 is pratically its own OS. :)
[14:42] <soreau> SPhcT: Hang on, I will look
[14:43] <sebsebseb> Grub Legacy is fine really, but develoeprs wanted to do a re write and so Grub 2
[14:43] <sile> hi!
[14:43] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, i need to set an ip for DNS right? So you know when you type in ipconfig /all into a command window on windows it comes up with a list of ip addy, subnet mask, default gateway, DNS serves and so on....can i not use the ip addys where it says DNS servers and use them to put in the config file on this ubuntu box
[14:43] <SPhcT> SPhcT
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> I think theres more to it then  they wanted to.. :) they had a lot of things they wanted to fix in a way that it will work for the next few generations of pcs :)
[14:44] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: such as?
[14:44] <JonathanEllis> How can I view a video that is in MTS format?
[14:44] <hipitihop> I'm using a MS wireless keyboard and mouse using my built in laptop BT adaptor .. however the pairing is lost after a eriod of inactivity on the keyboard or the mouse. I have to run 'sudo hidd --search' to reconnect to either device. how do I stop this from happening
[14:44] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, cause im guesing thats the DNS servers that this network is using
[14:44] <kunji> Jimi_Neutral: windows commands are different from the commands for linux quite often, I think the command you want is ifconfig
[14:44] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: I dont know, I dont use windows. Maybe you can try iptables or ask in #networking
[14:44] <Jimi_Neutral> kunji, thats not what i am asking but ty anyways :)
[14:44] <Jimi_Neutral> ok well that does happen
[14:45] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, it gives you a list of ip's next to the word DNS servers, so will it wok if i use them
[14:45] <Mateo_> i have to try some things... brb !
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  check the grub2 homepage/docs it can do things (and will have more features soon) that could never happen in grub1..  decent scripting suport for one thing. able to boot ISo files for another..  Plus other  enhancements. It will be more themeable then grub1.. eventually
[14:45] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: you can use them
[14:45] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ok, do they have to be seperated by a comma
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[14:46] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: where do you add them?
[14:46] <soreau> SPhcT: Yes, I downloaded one of the tarballs and it is source code for a linux kernel module (driver). To compile it, install build-essential then extract the folder and from that folder run the folling command to compile it: make
[14:46] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i have been told to add them to the resolv.conf file
[14:47] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: nameserver i.p.a.dress              single line per ip
[14:47] <soreau> SPhcT: If it builds successfully without errors, it will produce a .ko file, then you will use this command to load this driver: sudo insmod file.ko
[14:47] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: they will be overwritten at reboot
[14:47] <csirifiszkio> i had installed the Binary ATI driver in Karmic, now i can suspend my notebook, but since that time i cant turn on the desktop effects
[14:47] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, so how do i make it permanant
[14:47] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: if using dhcp, edit dhclient.conf. if using static-ip, add them to /etc/network/interfaces
[14:47] <csirifiszkio> how can i change between the available videodrivers in Karmic?
[14:48] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ah ha! just what i asked about 3 hours ago lol....what would be the syntax to add them to the interfaces file
[14:49] <myth> hi there, i have a sound problem with my fresh 9.10 x86_64 installation! i don't get optical ouput! i can see my soundcard (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)) with lspci, but i don't even get light from the SPDIF output!
[14:49] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: dns-nameservers 1.2.3.4   5.4.3.2
[14:49] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ty bud you aer a star
[14:49] <SPhcT> soreau it made lot of files *.o
[14:49] <myth> hi there, i have a sound problem with my fresh 9.10 x86_64 installation! i don't get optical ouput! i can see my soundcard (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)) with lspci, but i don't even get light from the SPDIF output!
[14:50] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: make sure package "resolvconf" is installed for that
[14:50] <mark_> STATUS DEduc3d
[14:50] <soreau> SPhcT: Do you see a .ko file?
[14:50] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i have no idea what u mean, still new to linux
[14:50] <macman_> just got my new studio 17 inch
[14:50] <macman_> :P
[14:50] <macman_> of course im wiping windows
[14:50] <bcurtiswx_> hey, what channel should I go to for wiki problems?
[14:50] <myth> no one can help me?
[14:50] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: apt-cache policy resolvconf|greo -i insta
[14:50] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: apt-cache policy resolvconf|grep -i insta
[14:50] <llutz> srooy
[14:51] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, second one ;)
[14:51] <VirusTB> so uhm.. is it a good idea to wire your nework like this >>  ISP > Wired-Router > Switch >Wifi-Router
[14:51] <SPhcT> soreau i extracted all folder than i launch install in terminal...
[14:51] <Smith> if i have to check ctrl+d key combination in programming, with what can i compare?
[14:51] <myth> hi there, i have a sound problem with my fresh 9.10 x86_64 installation! i don't get optical ouput! i can see my soundcard (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)) with lspci, but i don't even get light from the SPDIF output!
[14:51] <SPhcT> soreau now i have more files like filename.o
[14:52] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: sorry for my typos, is it installed?
[14:52] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, it come back with installed: 1.44ubuntu1
[14:52] <SPhcT> soreau dont have .ko
[14:52] <soreau> SPhcT: Did you run make from the directory in the terminal?
[14:52] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: fine, so all _should_ work
[14:52] <cm_> VirusTB: yes if the wifi-router is in bridged mode and you want it to be able to access your lan
[14:52] <cm_> -it+wifiusers
[14:52] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, bbc.co.uk came back unkown host when i tired ot ping :(
[14:52] <SPhcT> soreau i launch only install
[14:52] <annas> hai all
[14:53] <JonathanEllis> !video
[14:53] <soreau> SPhcT: That wont help.. you need to cd into/the/directory, then run make to compile it
[14:53] <myth> JonathanEllis: was this for me
[14:53] <myth> ?
[14:53] <SPhcT> soreau sory i dont understand
[14:53] <VirusTB> cm_ how do I tell if its in Bridghed mode?
[14:53] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: you have to restart networking to take that change in interfaces effect. temporary change /etc/resolv.conf too
[14:53] <bcurtiswx_> What channel should I go to for wiki.ubuntu.com problems
[14:53] <woo> hello all!
[14:54] <myth> woo: hi :)
[14:54] <soreau> SPhcT: Do you know how to change directories in the terminal?
[14:54] <JonathanEllis> myth: No for me. I am looking for something to play an mts video file
[14:54] <VirusTB> cm_,  i got a Apple Airport,  going to use the Wifi on 3 laptops mainly
[14:54] <myth> cd ?!
[14:54] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, already did the network restart.....whats the temp change you said about?
[14:54] <myth> JonathanEllis: kk
[14:54] <myth> SPhcT: cd ?!
[14:54] <woo> Could anyone help with confirguring a serial wacom tablet?  If not, what channel would be best?
[14:54] <jpcristian> Hola
[14:54] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: if you restarted, check /etc/resolv.conf. it should contain your nameservers from /e/n/interfaces
[14:54] <SPhcT> soreau i now how to find them... but not how to change
[14:55] <wondering304> hi guys, I was wondering if I should wait to install ubuntu 10.4 or can I simplay install ubuntu 9.1 now and update when the time comes? cause the last update was not so good [ext3>ext4 is a bit hard to do without a fresh install]
[14:55] <myth> SPhcT: cd /home/myuser/newfolder
[14:55] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, no it doesnt
[14:55] <avb> guys, does lucid freeze on startup is a known bug?
[14:55] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, so i put them in there as well
[14:55] <avb> i just upgraded from karmic
[14:56] <avb> no console
[14:56] <avb> no gdm
[14:56] <avb> nothing
[14:56] <cm_> VirusTB: hm i dont known airports ap at all sorry
[14:56] <myth> hi there, i have a sound problem with my fresh 9.10 x86_64 installation! i don't get optical ouput! i can see my soundcard (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)) with lspci, but i don't even get light from the SPDIF output!
[14:56] <faiq> hai
[14:56] <myth> no one with an idea?
[14:56] <soreau> SPhcT: Ok.. in your terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) you need to use the cd command (which means change directory) to get to the folder (directory) where you downloaded the source code. For example if it was in your Desktop folder you would do: cd $HOME/Desktop/folder
[14:56] <annas> hay faiq
[14:57] <petsounds> avb, #ubuntu+1
[14:57] <avb> tx
[14:57] <soreau> ! intelhda | myth
[14:57] <myth> i know it...
[14:58] <VirusTB> cm_,  thanks :D i wil just give it a try and learn from experiance
[14:58] <SPhcT> soreau: im there now.
[14:58] <cognitiaclaeves> I'd like to add different version of the same file to a zip archive... is there an 'add' option?
[14:58] <faiq> woi...gampang..
[14:58] <cognitiaclaeves> ( for zip )
[14:58] <pachu> hola
[14:59] <pachu> hola
[14:59] <SikEnCide> ew singh
[14:59] <pachu> spanish
[14:59] <pachu> hola
[14:59] <soreau> SPhcT: The thing is, the linux kernel provides drivers for a lot of devices and ubuntu is usually smart enough to detect a device and load the driver. Did you even check the output of lsmod to see if it loaded a driver for your webcam device?
[14:59] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, nothing
[14:59] <pachu> hola
[14:59] <pachu> hi
[15:00] <SPhcT> soreau no
[15:00] <FiremanEd> !es | pachu
[15:00] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: can you ping IP-adresses?
[15:00] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i know them DNS servers are working cause they are being used by the rest of the building lol
[15:00] <woo> anyone with help for Wacom serial devices in Ubuntu 9.10?
[15:00] <soreau> SPhcT: Ok, well did you check an application like cheese to see if it detects your cam?
[15:00] <myth> ubottu: i have alc 882 and in    /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz i see     3stack-dig	3-jack with SPDIF I/O
[15:00] <myth> lol...a bot :D
[15:00] <Jimi_Neutral> lluta
[15:00] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, yeah i can
[15:01] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i am pining my other laptop which is on the network on windiws
[15:01] <SPhcT> soreau cheese and skype cant detect
[15:01] <soreau> SPhcT: Then I will assume the driver is not available. Did you try running make from the source directory in the terminal to build this module?
[15:01] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: ping -c 2 209.85.129.147
[15:02] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, thats fine
[15:03] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: dig @8.8.8.8.8 www.google.com
[15:03] <SPhcT> soreau im in dirctory /home/downloads/gspcav2$ and than i run make it says no targets..
[15:03] <soreau> SPhcT: If you do ls, does it show a Makefile?
[15:03] <pachu> hi
[15:03] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, server found
[15:04] <SPhcT> soreau yes
[15:04] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: "answer section" any ips?
[15:04] <soreau> SPhcT: Ok, can you cd into the next directory and try make again?
[15:04] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, yeah 4
[15:04] <a-linux-geek> sup y'al
[15:04] <soreau> hm
[15:05] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" as first line to /etc/resolv.conf
[15:05] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: then ping -c2 www.google.com
[15:05] <SPhcT> soreau i have 2 green names install and cmd-gl860
[15:05] <woo> anyone, wacom? 9.10?
[15:05] <soreau> llutz: I had him do that and he said it worked but it was slow
[15:06] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, sorry, i just noticed whee i had gone wrong
[15:06] <soreau> SPhcT: Hang on, let me see if there are some build instructions on this
[15:06] <llutz> i wouldn't seriously recommend using google-dns for regular operation
[15:06] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i put nameservers instead of nameserver in the resolv.conf
[15:06] <mengu> hi. i removed the panel at the bottom and i have added it back. now how do i make it so the running applications are shown in that panel?
[15:07] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, but it is nameserverS in the interfaces file though right
[15:07] <soreau> SPhcT: Try ./install
[15:07] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: dns-nameservers, yes
[15:07] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, then i think thats it....just gonna do a reboot to check
[15:07] <michaeldobrovits> mengu, right click on panel add windows list
[15:08] <michaeldobrovits> mengu,sry right click on panel add to panel > windows list
[15:08] <SPhcT> soreau working..
[15:09] <michaeldobrovits> can someone help to understand why gdm doesn't recalls last window location
[15:09] <soreau> SPhcT: Yea, it looks like it includes an install script that downloads and installs the driver then loads the module
[15:09] <mengu> thanks you michaeldobrovits.
[15:09] <wrapster> what is the use of the /etc/sudoers?
[15:09] <SuperDefenderX> !backup
[15:09] <SPhcT> soreau but get eror inserting .ko
[15:09] <wrapster> what is that file basically ?
[15:09] <michaeldobrovits> mengu, anytime :)
[15:09] <michaeldobrovits> can someone help to understand why gdm doesn't recalls last window location
[15:10] <soreau> SPhcT: Did the build actually succeed? Does the .ko exist?
[15:10] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, worked, but now i have rebooted, it doesnt naymore
[15:10] <crash82> Hello , is there anyway to know if the attached disk of the computer is of phisical size of 2.5 or 3.5 ? By model or something like that what tool can I use ?
[15:10] <rus21sasha> на русском кто рубит?
[15:11] <SPhcT> soreau error inserting .../../.../.ko -1 Unknown symbol in module
[15:12] <soreau> SPhcT: What about if you try sudo modprobe gl860
[15:12] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, trying what you last said
[15:12] <michaeldobrovits> crash82, hdparm -i /dev
[15:13] <SPhcT> soreau: module gl860 not found
[15:13] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: you have configured your device completly in /e/n/interfaces?
[15:13] <michaeldobrovits> crash82, hdparm -i /dev/sdf or sda or what ever (use it in terminal with sudo)
[15:13] <soreau> SPhcT: Well, best I can tell either this source is not compatible with the kernel version you are running or it is not compatible with the webcam you have
[15:14] <a-linux-geek> any no if fme can run on ubuntu
[15:14] <michaeldobrovits> crash82, you can see your diskd in terminal using sudo fdisk -l
[15:15] <SPhcT> soreau so i need find another driver..
[15:15] <SPhcT> soreau?
[15:15] <soreau> SPhcT: How does the cam connect, usb?
[15:16] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune?
[15:16] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, 2 tx 2 rx from that last command
[15:16] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, yeah as far as i know
[15:16] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i will send it to you in ap rivate what i have
[15:16] <a-linux-geek> may need loopback for the webcam
[15:16] <MyMorningCoffee> Is there a module that can export Drupal comments into a MovableType format?
[15:16] <SPhcT> soreau no it is notebook camera up in screen
[15:17] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:17] <soreau> SPhcT: Does lspci show it then?
[15:17] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, check that the camera is turned on :)
[15:18] <SPhcT> soreau no i find it in lsusb
[15:18] <soreau> SPhcT: What does it report exactly?
[15:18] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:18] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits how?
[15:18] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, which computer?
[15:19] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits notebook asus z37s
[15:19] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: worse and worse ... i can't find my ubuntu/disks/ now ...
[15:19] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits asmobile z37s
[15:19] <H34D5H0073R> -.-
[15:19] <JuanMarquez>  boot into Ubuntu it stops at a prompt that says initramfs
[15:20] <JuanMarquez> help me  boot into Ubuntu it stops at a prompt that says initramfs
[15:20] <SPhcT> soreau Bus 002 Device 003: ID 05e3:0503 genesys logic, inc
[15:20] <Smith> how can i check the key combination of ctrl+c or something like that pressed by user?
[15:20] <Pitel> how to get ubuntu version over ssh shell?
[15:20] <onsecurity> dionisos.irc.gr
[15:20] <miranda_82> Pitel, lsb_release -a
[15:20] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, fn something
[15:20] <onsecurity> how change the server on irc?
[15:21] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits ?
[15:21] <miranda_82> hello, anyone has any recommendations on how to download rss torrents automatically on a headless server?
[15:21] <luist> hey.. can anyone help me to use diff in a way that i can compare all the files in 2 folders (files with the same name) and create 1 output for each pair compared in a third folder?
[15:21] <trollboy> onsecurity, type "/server irc.server.address"
[15:21] <tony32> why does it take so long to copy within the same partition? why doesn't it do it the way windows does?
[15:21] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, try looking at the symbols on the keyborad most of the time same color as the fn key (something lik fn f(something)
[15:21] <Pitel> miranda_82: thx
[15:22] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, i had also this issue until i saw that the camera was turned off
[15:22] <JuanMarquez> help me  boot into Ubuntu it stops at a prompt that says initramfs
[15:22] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, it was on msi wind fn f6
[15:23] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, it all worked fine ubuntu 8.04.2
[15:23] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:23] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits no i dont have camera with Fn
[15:23] <hajmola> is there anyway to get OO to ignore my dark theme? The text colors don't work right...
[15:23] <wrapster> looked at my /etc/sudoers file and see 2 entries for ROOT... like so http://pastie.org/809427
[15:23] <wrapster> anyone can help me
[15:23] <wrapster> and also what does so many ALL=(ALL) ALL mean
[15:23] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits or maybi it isnt on keybord..
[15:24] <Belgarath_> How do I decide where my desktop mount icons should appear (the default seems to be in up left corner, I want to change it to right up corner)
[15:24] <usuario_> eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[15:24] <Pici> wrapster: Is that from an Ubuntu system?
[15:24] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, probably. i think that if lsusb displays it than it is recognized somehow but dont rely on this
[15:24] <panfist_> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a file server. it has 6 sata drives for storage and one ide drive for the root file system. i have installed ubuntu onto the ide drive, but it doesn't boot
[15:24] <freakynl> hi, i'm trying to export some devices (md0) through ietd, but i keep getting weird errors that it can't attach lun 0 to target, this also happens if i make a file and try to export that, any ideas?
[15:24] <JonathanEllis> Where is the correct place to put user generated scripts?
[15:24] <wrapster> Pici: why you asking that.. of course!
[15:24] <miranda_82> hello, anyone has any recommendations on how to download rss torrents automatically on a headless server?
[15:24] <panfist_> when i boot from that drive i just see a cursor; im wondering is grub messed up? how can i fix it?
[15:25] <usuario_> lgjleglghrlgkjgl
[15:25] <usuario_> hniweghgo
[15:25] <usuario_> hjhjhjhjh
[15:25] <Pici> usuario_: stop
[15:25] <usuario_> hhhhbhbrhfbnjfbdgkeqggnnnnnnnnnnnnnr
[15:25] <soreau> SPhcT: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:25] <Pici> wrapster: I ask because it looks like its been modified.
[15:25] <panfist_> the ide drive is detected as sdg instead of hda or something, even though it's ide
[15:25] <SPhcT> soreau 9.10
[15:25] <wrapster> ah... where do i look at it to find the mods?
[15:25] <wrapster> if any.?
[15:25] <Pici> wrapster: /etc/sudoers controls who can use sudo.
[15:26] <michaeldobrovits> panfist, did it worked before?
[15:26] <wrapster> coz i dont understand this. but something tells me if we have 2 of the same kind then its definitely wrong.
[15:26] <Pici> wrapster: See man sudoers.  This is what the default /etc/sudoers looks like: http://pastebin.com/f324896d7
[15:26] <m_fulder> hello, is it easy to set up a server on ubuntu?
[15:26] <iceroot> m_fulder: sure
[15:26] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:27] <m_fulder> easier then windows iceroot ?
[15:27] <NET||abuse> hmm, apt.wakoppa.com   the gpg key is broken for me, anyone else?
[15:27] <iceroot> m_fulder: just try it
[15:27] <iceroot> m_fulder: and see yourself
[15:27] <m_fulder> ok will do :P ... got a good tutorial? :)
[15:27] <k0d3g3ar> does anyone have a suggestion for a good SMB GUI browsing program?  I've been using smb4K but its a bit flaky
[15:27] <IdleOne> !lamp | m_fulder
[15:27] <iceroot> m_fulder: burn the cd, insert it, press ~ 10 times enter. give it a username and finish
[15:28] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:28] <m_fulder> wow cool ok :D thanks iceroot
[15:28] <freakynl> anyone using ietd on 9.10?
[15:28] <SPhcT> soreau are you look for something?
[15:28] <hajmola> anyone know how to get OO to ignore my dark theme?
[15:28] <iceroot> !anyone | freakynl
[15:28] <tobi_> is there any possible way of removing video tearing in linux?
[15:28] <tobi_> !tearing
[15:28] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits can i force it to turn on?
[15:29] <freakynl> iceroot: read up then
[15:29] <yesitisjustme> i have a sprint wireless card and baud rate is 9600 is this to low or is it correct?
[15:29] <iceroot> freakynl: and maybe you mean inetd?
[15:29] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, i don't know, never worked with that laptop, try checking bios maybe....
[15:29] <freakynl> iceroot: no i don't, ietd, iscsi enterprise (piece of crap) target daemon
[15:30] <ribot> i tried to configure my mobile broadband with wvconfig, but it couldnt find the device.i think ubuntu recognizes it as a usb storage device
[15:30] <soreau> SPhcT: Yes
[15:30] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, install compizconfig-setting-manager util through synaptics and tune sync to vblank
[15:30] <slartsa> HALP! I'm using usb-wlan (Telewell TW-WLAN with (apparently?) rt2870 chip. I had to blacklist "rt2800usb" in order to get it to do anything, but the connection lags every once in a while (at least once/min) for at least 30secs. I'm using Karmic
[15:31] <freakynl> it ran fine on 8.04 ... on 9.10 it doesn't seem to want to do anything. either it claims it can't attach device to lun, or it doesn't give any errors, they appear in /proc/net/iet/volumes but initiators don't see them
[15:31] <michele> italiano
[15:31] <Pici> !it | michele
[15:32] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, after you install > go to general> general options > select display settings tab > and down the tab you have sync to vblank
[15:32] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I don't think it will work for movie playback :P
[15:32] <freakynl> the initiators do show up in /proc/net/iet/sessions btw
[15:32] <chris89> hello
[15:32] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, it works trust me
[15:32] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I've already tested that
[15:32] <SPhcT> ok i changed laptops so i can write from xchat
[15:33] <basty> Hi
[15:33] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, did you selected desired refresh rate?
[15:33] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits so I need to use compiz and have that enabled
[15:33] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits 60
[15:33] <k0d3g3ar> if I install a Windows program in WINE on Ubuntu that requires a DLL, do I have to do anything other than just have it available next to the EXE file (ie. in the same folder)?
[15:33] <basty> I am trying to install "iaxmodem" for asterisk and I need to set something into the not available "inittab". Where is the "inittab" on an ubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:34] <Proton23> Hi! my laptop was powered off by not plugin in current. No I can't access my crypted partition :(
[15:34] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, than leave detect fresh rate and see that it stands on 60 and mark the check box to sync to vblank
[15:34] <Kamokow> k0d3g3ar: If its a system dll, then that probably wont work, but any normal dlls (like SDL) should, provided the program itself will run.
[15:34] <Proton23> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[15:34] <Proton23> mount: only root can mount /dev/mapper/sda7_crypt on /media/stuff
[15:34] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, u need also to enable effects in apearance
[15:34] <k0d3g3ar> Kamokow:  I think it is a system DLL (MIDAS.DLL).  I believe its used for ODBC
[15:35] <b__> Look for help connecting to a certain server
[15:35] <JonathanEllis> Where should I put a script? In /bin? /usr/bin? /usr/local/bin?
[15:35] <slartsa> I was told that my TW-WLAN has RT2870 chip but can I count on that? because my "lsusb" tells me it's "148f:3070" and I got 3070 drivers with the package?
[15:35] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, you can choose the normal visual effects
[15:35] <bax> ?
[15:35] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: ok doing as you say
[15:35] <soreau> SPhcT: According to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/215604 AFAICT, the driver was being developed but went awol or something..
[15:35] <freakynl> Proton23: try running: sudo mkdir /media/stuff; sudo mount /dev/mapper/sda7_crypt /media/stuff
[15:36] <Kamokow> k0d3g3ar: Well, if the dll is usually in the same folder, it will probably work in the same folder, otherwise, it probably wont, just like it works in windows... (unless im wrong, I dont really use wine much anymore)
[15:36] <basty> so - is there any "inittab" on ubuntu 9.10 ? ;-)
[15:36] <k0d3g3ar> anyone got any recommendations for calm system sounds for mail alerts in Ubuntu?  I'm using Thunderbird, but the default sound is reminiscent of Windows 95.  And I don't want some vocal for each email that comes in.  It gets old real quick.
[15:36] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, tell me if it works
[15:36] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:37] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits it doesn't
[15:37] <SPhcT> soreau, so can i do something to fore it work?
[15:37] <Pelo> k0d3g3ar, there are some sound themes on gnome-looks.org
[15:37] <k0d3g3ar> Pelo:  Thanks so much
[15:37] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, what gpu you are running?
[15:37] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I've set mplayer to use xv
[15:38] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: 4000+ 64 x2 AMD
[15:38] <bobbob1016> How can I get a program I started via ssh to continue running after I close ssh?
[15:38] <Pelo> k0d3g3ar, you'll probably have to dl and listen to a bunch of files to find something you like but ...
[15:38] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits:  sry gpu 7800GT
[15:38] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, i mean what graphics card you r using?
[15:38] <SPhcT> soreau, http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=4320 maybe here is something i can use?
[15:38] <Fauntix> hello
[15:38] <soreau> SPhcT: I think you are barking up the right tree with finding the module source and building it. Unfortunately I cannot determine if there is updated sources compatible with the latest 9.10 kernel
[15:38] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, did you enabled restricted driver?
[15:38] <Pelo> bobbob1016, screen maybe ?
[15:39] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:39] <nevstah> hi guys, i've deleted a .conf file in error, and want to simply reinstall the program including all the associated conf files, how can i do this? every time i try, it skips the deleted file :(
[15:39] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: I've installed 190.53 cuz 185 is worthless
[15:39] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, why ?
[15:39] <Fauntix> i cant get wine installed on 9.10
[15:39] <bobbob1016> Pelo, I tried, but I can't seem to get the right syntax
[15:39] <Pelo> nevstah, try making a blank, .conf file , maybe it will get edited
[15:40] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: it behaved wrong with resolution - refresh
[15:40] <nevstah> Pelo: thanks, will do!
[15:40] <kubanc> can gimp 2.7 run on ubuntu 8.04
[15:40] <SPhcT> soreau, if there is driver for ubuntu 8.10 shold it work for 9.10? and is it hard to make drivers?
[15:40] <benc1> how can I set a static IP when using ubuntu behind a router?
[15:41] <Pelo> bobbob1016, I managed to get irssi started with $screen irssi , that started irssi in a screen session ,  then crtl+a+d that got me out of the screen session back to the prompt ,  screen -r to get back to the screen session
[15:41] <llutz> bobbob1016: ssh into remote, start "screen yourcommand", use ctrl-a+d to detach before logging out. when relogin, use screen -r to reattach
[15:41] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, try 190.42 i had issues of stuttering with that driver on my gtx 285 on high resolutions
[15:41] <Pelo> nevstah, no promises,  but it's the only thing I can think of off hand
[15:41] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, now i'm using 185 and it works the best of all
[15:41] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: strange
[15:42] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, probably there r reasons why ubuntu developer chose 185 over the other
[15:42] <nevstah> Pelo: i just ran apt-get purge <program> and that did the trick
[15:42] <soreau> SPhcT: It is relatively difficult to write drivers. If something changes in the kernel that the driver relies on, it wont work. I think if you find the right version of the code compatible with your kernel, it will work
[15:42] <Pelo> nevstah, congrats
[15:43] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, you tell me, i have triplehead2go 3monitors and resolution of 5040x1050 and it took me sometime to make it work properly
[15:43] <SPhcT> my kernel is 9.10?
[15:43] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: gonna try 185, what is the version of 185 you use?
[15:44] <KaffeeJunky123> since I've done a bios update my alt key does not function after some time, restarting gdm will fix the problem, does anyone have an idea what could cause this? I've an ASUS M2N32SLI-Deluxe
[15:44] <KaffeeJunky123> And it's an usb keyboard
[15:44] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, try first 190.42 , if it doesn't work good just ./Nvidia-linux-driver --uninstall
[15:44] <chris89> bye
[15:45] <elnur> Hello. Does anybody know where shortcuts from panel are stored?
[15:45] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, than install from the suggested hardware drivers in > system > administration > hardware drivers
[15:45] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:45] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: can I safely remove drivers from admin..>hardware drivers?
[15:46] <SPhcT> soreau, can i do it like on 7.10 it cold work or no? i find small tutorial here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581307&page=3
[15:46] <Fauntix> can someone help me ge wine to work on 9.10
[15:46] <deinspanjer> I managed to get myself into a rough circular dependency spot with apt-get.  I've got a package "openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us" that wants to be removed, but the remove relies on the script "update-openoffice-dicts" which was previously removed.
[15:46] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: sure what's your problem?
[15:46] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, if u first installed it through the hardware drivers util than yes, if u've installed from file than u'll need to uninstall it from file
[15:47] <arand> elnur: I think in gconf /apps/panel has at least some of the settings for them..
[15:47] <deinspanjer> The problem is I can't install anything to help fix the problem because it tries to remove that thing first.  I tried specifying —no-remove, but that just causes apt-get install to exit immediately saying that it must remove.
[15:47] <freakynl> deinspanjer: try reinstalling update-openoffice-dicts
[15:47] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:47] <deinspanjer> How can I get around this circular dependency?
[15:47] <k0d3g3ar> ne1 suggest a simple/small utility that will convert OGG audio to WAV for system sounds?  Not Audacity, which is bloated and way to big for this.
[15:47] <freakynl> deinspanjer: hmm
[15:47] <SPhcT> what chat programs you use?
[15:48] <Fauntix> @Kaffee: i try to download it from the software center and it gives me a "Package dependencies cannot be resolved" error
[15:49] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: Did you setup the wine repository as explained on winehq.org?
[15:49] <trism> k0d3g3ar: install vorbis-tools and try using oggdec
[15:49] <diablodf> installing Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 ubuntu 9.10?
[15:49] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: oh wait a second, use synaptics to install it then
[15:49] <Fauntix> i believe when i did it gave me a broken error
[15:49] <diablodf> installing Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 ubuntu 9.10 wireless???
[15:49] <m0ar> SPhcT: For irc?
[15:50] <SPhcT> m0ar, yes
[15:50] <m0ar> SPhcT: Irssi. Unbeatable.
[15:50] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: or try sudo apt-get install wine
[15:50]  * deinspanjer wishes he could grok irssi.  He suspects he just didn't try hard enough.
[15:50] <m0ar> diablodf: Grok?
[15:51] <SPhcT> m0ar, are u sure?
[15:51] <k0d3g3ar> trism:  that looks promising.  I installed it, and have the oggdec in terminal.  But no sign of the command line options to convert ogg to wav there though
[15:51] <m0ar> SPhcT: I am. Tried MANY clients, I can promise you that you won't be dissapointed
[15:51] <diablodf> how to install Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 ubuntu 9.10?
[15:51] <deinspanjer> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok — a greybeard term for truely understanding the nature of something
[15:51] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, if i have installed wine throught Soft center it shold work..?
[15:51]  * deinspanjer feels uncomfortable calling himself a greybeard
[15:51] <k0d3g3ar> trism:  ignore that last message.  it does it by default.  Doh
[15:52] <trism> k0d3g3ar: man oggdec, it describes it in the examples (should just be oggdec filename.ogg; which will output filename.wav)
[15:52] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: well if you didn't get an error message, yes it should work
[15:52] <k0d3g3ar> trism:  thanks.  Its working perfectly
[15:52] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, ty
[15:52] <om26er> is there way that jockey should detect my hardware drivers without rebooting (if it was unable to detect at first boot) I am on a live cd and have install nvidia glx 185 and want jockey to detect it. then I will restart xorg my self
[15:52] <m0ar> SPhcT: Check private
[15:53] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:54] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: did you get wine to install now?
[15:54] <hyperstation> hey i want to ask a question....do u know why APTonCD on my ubuntu 9.10 can't backup all of the packages?? and do you have a solutin for it?
[15:54] <Pelo> michaeldobrovits, there is a plugin in compiz to do that but I don' tknwo how it works,  #compiz would be a good place to ask
[15:54] <Myrtti> michaeldobrovits: your question makes little sense. GDM manages the login screen, it has very little to do with the window positions
[15:55] <michaeldobrovits> Myrtti, so what controls windows position?
[15:55] <Fauntix> i used the term to sudo the wine and get gives me The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:55] <michaeldobrovits> Myrtti, thought gdm stans for snome desktop manager
[15:55] <Fauntix>   wine: Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed
[15:55] <Fauntix> E: Broken packages
[15:56] <Myrtti> michaeldobrovits: window manager, compiz might be yours
[15:56] <Pelo> michaeldobrovits, gdm doesn'T do that,  you can do it with devilspie but it doesn't work if you use compiz, you need to use the plugin in compiz
[15:56] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: is that the full error output of apt-get?
[15:56] <michaeldobrovits> Myrtti, thx for clarifing
[15:57] <deinspanjer> Well, I took the sledgehammer approach to fixing my problem.  I hacked the .postrm script for the dictionary package to stub out the call to the missing program. That let it "remove" the dictionary.  I then installed apt-file, found the package that contains that script, installed that package, reinstalled the dictionary, then removed the dictionary and the supporting package.  Bleh!
[15:57] <Fauntix> Reading package lists... Done
[15:57] <Fauntix> Building dependency tree
[15:57] <Fauntix> Reading state information... Done
[15:57] <Fauntix> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[15:57] <Fauntix> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[15:57] <FloodBot2> Fauntix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <Fauntix> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[15:57] <asarch> Any Emacs user around here?
[15:57] <michaeldobrovits> Pelo, do you remember which plug controls it?
[15:57] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: Do you have some wine pakages already installed?
[15:57] <Pelo> michaeldobrovits, let me have a look , but you'll have better luck asking in #compiz
[15:57] <Fauntix> i dont believe so
[15:58] <michaeldobrovits> Pelo, than thx i'll ask there
[15:58] <Pici> asarch: If you need help using emacs, #emacs would be the best place to ask
[15:58] <rdunnion> Hi all. I'm having trouble printing under 9.10. The error log complains /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonij failed. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this does anyone have an idea?
[15:58] <curious_george> Hey guys - what is a good download manager that SUPPORTS logging in to remote servers? Tried a million and they all consistently can't :(
[15:58] <asarch> They don't know my question Pici
[15:58] <Fauntix> how do i check if i do your not
[15:58] <Fauntix> or*
[15:58] <cryptk> so... I have USB devices randomly "breaking"
[15:58] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: use synaptic and search for wine
[15:59] <cryptk> either the keyboard or the mouse, random time, random device
[15:59] <cryptk> just stops responding...
[15:59] <hyperstation> hey i want to ask a question....do u know why APTonCD on my ubuntu 9.10 can't backup all of the packages?? and do you have a solutin for it?
[15:59] <dralcohen> I'm looking into getting a netbook (probably an Asus) for making presentations (open office, pdf, etc).  Most of the netbooks are limited to 1024x600 screen resolution.  I want to double check that a netbook with Ubuntu running on it would be able to send 1024x768 images to the projector.  Has anyone confirmed that this can be done?
[15:59] <cryptk> and unplugging it and replugging it doesn't fix it...
[15:59] <cryptk> any ideas?
[15:59] <Pelo> michaeldobrovits, can'T figure it out , somethig about geometry
[16:00] <SPhcT> soreau, can i do it like on 7.10 it cold work or no? i find small tutorial here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581307&page=3
[16:00] <Fauntix> it shows no installed version
[16:02] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: do you have the wine repo in the application- source list?
[16:02] <amoody> Hi, am trying to install skype on ubuntu karmic. I have added the medibuntu karmic free nonfree repository to my sources.list. However, i can't find skype in synaptic. Any Ideas on how to overcome this?
[16:03] <Liquid-Silence> anyone here know of decent free invoicing software for freelancers?
[16:03] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits 185 driver fixed the tearing absolutely
[16:04] <erUSUL> !info gnucash
[16:04] <Pelo> liquid, there are  modules on the openoffice.org website that let you make invoices in the spreadsheet
[16:04] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I've always test it with some specific scenes in movie and no tearing at all occured after I've installed 185
[16:04] <Soyo> I am a member of the group with read and write permissions to a directory but I cannot access it with pulling a sudo command. What am I doing wrong?
[16:05] <sipior> Soyo: make sure you have execute permission on the directory as well.
[16:05] <Pelo> Soyo, make sure your nick has admin privildges
[16:05] <Pelo> Liquid-Silence, there are  modules on the openoffice.org website that let you make invoices in the spreadsheet
[16:05] <wrapster> Pici: but how do i figure out where the issue is being caused?
[16:05] <Soyo> Oh you need execute as well. I did not know that.
[16:05] <Fauntix> i dont know kaffee
[16:06] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: in synaptic click on settings->paket sources
[16:07] <Soyo> Thanks sipior! that worked
[16:07] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: and then klick on the software from third party tab
[16:07] <sipior> Soyo: welcome
[16:08] <cryptk> anyone want to help me debug a USB problem?3
[16:08] <basrah> hello
[16:08] <Fauntix> in my synaptic i dont have the packet sources in my setting tab
[16:08] <basrah> who do i ask for information about USB soundcards under ubuntu?
[16:08] <dbear> hello all.. I am hoping I can get suggestions on getting my dual display with nvidia quadro working on ubuntu 9.10.
[16:08] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  I just finished setting up my dual display.  What ya need?
[16:09] <Pelo> basrah, your best bet would be to do a search in the forum for the model   www.ubuntuforums.org
[16:09] <llutz> dbear: gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:09] <dbear> I did find a couple of pointers on the forums. one was to remove etc/xorg.conf
[16:09] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: well, try System->Systemsettings-> Paket sources
[16:09] <root51> how to change my xsplash
[16:09] <root51> im using 9.10
[16:09] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: when using the nividia settings tools when I go to save, I get the error that it can't parse xorg.conf
[16:09] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: I meant software sources my bad
[16:09] <SPhcT> does webcam driver for ubuntu 7.10 will work on ubuntu 9.10??? i find small tutorial here for my wbecam:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581307&page=3
[16:09] <root51> any idea
[16:10] <bubulein> dbear: see hp.com and search xw6000 a workstation. u can find driver and a manual
[16:10] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  Yep, that's a bug in that tool set.  Use the 'Preview' option to see the xorg.conf changes it wants to make and then manually copy that code into your xorg.conf outside of their software
[16:10] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: or it's named software repositories
[16:10] <root51> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:10] <root51> gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:10] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: I'm not 100% sure because I've german menues :/
[16:11] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  But what I can tell you is that its worth studying how xorg.conf works because you will probably want to tweak it manually.  Don't rely entirely on nvidia-settings for complex setups
[16:11] <rdunnion> Hi all. pstocanonij is failing and I get the following debug output:DEBUG: pstocanonij start. ERROR: illegal option. ERROR: can't open file. the permissions are 755, any ideas?
[16:11] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: ... ah.. will try that.
[16:11] <root51> how to change my xsplash
[16:11] <root51> im using ubuntu karmic 9.10
[16:11] <Fauntix> in my software sources -> other software: i have http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[16:11] <curious_george> any downloaders supporting user/pass login?
[16:11] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  what I'm doing is trying to get a custom xorg.conf to change based on different grub2 menu selections.  One for my laptop when I'm traveling and one for my desktop config when I get back in.
[16:11] <bubulein> curious_george: wget
[16:12] <dbear> k0d3g3gar: sounds good -- dual screens when plugged in, single display when mobile.
[16:12] <woodyjlw> a friend bought a server with 12 gig of memory and 3 scuzzy drives and is a quad processor and he wants to install linux on it to make it a server. would ubuntu work for this? or is there a better distro for that
[16:12] <SPhcT> does webcam driver for ubuntu 7.10 will work on ubuntu 9.10??? i find small tutorial here for my wbecam:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581307&page=3
[16:12] <curious_george> bubulein, uhh... I want to use rapidshare.com wget is command line a bit inconvenient. Spoiled by flashget.\
[16:12] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  one other thing...  You might want to try and make sure that all of your monitors share common display resolution because if you don't its a bit weird trying to make twinview look good
[16:12] <basrah> hmm
[16:12] <basrah> seriously
[16:12] <ikonia> woodyjlw: ubuntu would work fine
[16:12] <milicap> any c programmer here
[16:12] <milicap> ?
[16:12] <milicap> i need help
[16:12] <blakkheim> woodyjlw: it would work but there might be better options
[16:13] <ikonia> milicap: why ?
[16:13] <basrah> there is no one who is using ubuntu with focusrite saffire 6 usb soundcard?
[16:13] <bubulein> curious_george: use the gui
[16:13] <Fauntix> in my software sources -> other software: i have http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[16:13] <Soyo> milicap /join #c
[16:13] <curious_george> bubulein, how do you do that m8?
[16:13] <ikonia> it's ##c
[16:13] <blakkheim> curious_george: a gui isn't needed, download plowshare and use that
[16:13] <curious_george> ok
[16:13] <anil56554> woodyjlw: ubuntu will be just fine for servers
[16:13] <woodyjlw> blakkheim,  what would be better option
[16:13] <root51> any tools for changing xsplash
[16:14] <ikonia> woodyjlw: opinions are subjective and it depends what you want to serve,
[16:14] <Soyo> yeah I guess it is ##c
[16:14] <blakkheim> woodyjlw: that's a matter of opinion, you might want to do some research on different distributions.
[16:14] <bubulein> curious_george: afaik there is a firefox plugin, too
[16:14] <ikonia> woodyjlw: ubuntu is an acceptable server distro
[16:14] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: remove the repo and paste this into a shell sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/karmic.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[16:14] <curious_george> bubulein, nothing seems to support logging in to a site m8
[16:14] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: how do I preview the settings the nvidia tools wants to make .. I don't see a preview button.
[16:14] <woodyjlw> ok
[16:15] <k0d3g3ar> dbear: if you hit 'apply' it should automatically set it up the way you want it
[16:15] <bubulein> curious_george: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/8376
[16:15] <lara> ola
[16:15] <SPhcT> can somone help me find drivers for this webcam: bus 002 Device 003: ID 05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc.
[16:15] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: after you've ran that command run sudo apt-get update and then you should be able to install wine using apt-get install wine
[16:16] <bubulein> curious_george: http://rs-downloader.blogspot.com/
[16:16] <curious_george> sweet
[16:16] <root51> i can't change my xsplash
[16:16] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: when I do 'apply,' I get a dialog, cannot apply, the current settings cannot be completedly applied du to one or more of the following reasons:... a restart of the xserver is required
[16:17] <dbear> so - I press apply what is possible.
[16:17] <bubulein> somone familar with accassibility for bline people? Im looking for a way to have a BEEP in grub to know what i have to choose
[16:17] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  Are you using X Server settings, or Twinview?
[16:17] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  ie have multiple seperate X-Windows running in parallel?
[16:18] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, can u help me with webcam driver
[16:18] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, this is my webcam and i cant install it bus 002 Device 003: ID 05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc.
[16:18] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: I'm sorry I don't have any expirience with webcams :O
[16:19] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: selected separate X screen option in the nvidia control panel
[16:19] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, ok than i will wait for other...
[16:19] <curious_george> that thing is for windows only, anyway but going to try the plowshare thing.
[16:19] <freakynl> bubulein: sorry can't help you there, however, i frequently do it blind... the menu doesn't 'loop', ie if you hit bottom or top it won't continue on the other side, so if you know the number of entries that should be ok. i just press down a lot until i'm certain grub is loaded (once key is pressed it won't autoboot) and then count how many spots up before enter
[16:19] <bubulein> dbear: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00063015/c00063015.pdf <-
[16:19] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: the first display works find
[16:19] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  oh, ok.  I don't have mine setup that way.  I have one big extended desktop
[16:20] <SPhcT> need help with wbecam driver i cant find it..
[16:20] <dbear> bubulein: looking at the pdf. thanx
[16:20] <Fauntix> when i run sudo apt-get update it says E: Type '--2010-02-04' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[16:20] <Marcofe> hi everybody
[16:20] <llutz> SPhcT: gl860.sf.net    read instructions
[16:20] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: http://gl860.sourceforge.net/
[16:20] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  I need to be able drag & drop windows between displays
[16:20] <webbb82> ok i want to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu , i already shrunk my windows partition in half , now i have 250 gb of unalocated hard drive space, but when i put the install cd in and get to the partition section i dont get any option to install to unused diskspace, how do i install it to the unalocated space????
[16:20] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  you can't do that with separate X sessions
[16:20] <webbb82> any advice?
[16:20] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: found that by googleing the device id + name
[16:20] <bubulein> freakynl: im supporting some people from australia on an othere channel / server perhaps u have time to visit us
[16:20] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, it makes error at the .ko file
[16:21] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: Did you follow the instructions?
[16:21] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I've always test it with some specific scenes in movie and no tearing at all occured after I've installed 185
[16:21] <bubulein> freakynl: on grub 1 i could ad hex07 so it beeps
[16:21] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits 185 driver fixed the tearing absolutely
[16:21] <Marcofe> hi
[16:21] <Fauntix> kaffee i will have to continue this later i have to go to work
[16:21] <freakynl> bubulein: going home soon and i'm not blind i'm just to lazy to switch my tv to pc input before it's booted up :), also still on grub v1 :D
[16:22] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: good bye and gl
[16:22] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, ye i think so somone help me from chat... there is driver still in developent..
[16:22] <bubulein> freakynl: thx
[16:22] <SPhcT> llutz, does this work?
[16:22] <anil56554> webbb82: you have to make a partion of unacolated space
[16:22] <Necro-File> I am having some trouble installing to an Acer netbook; using the desktop i386 9.10 iso, I have no mouse and keyboard support during the installation. Once I get to the language selection, I can't proceed because I can't click "next." I can't seem to get the netbook remix iso to boot from USB properly, and was just wondering if it's necessary to use the netbook remix ISO to install to a...
[16:22] <Necro-File> ...netbook, or if it was just an interface change specifically for the smaller screens.
[16:22] <llutz> SPhcT: i don't know, i don't use webcams or other "win-only" stuff
[16:22] <m_fulder> why do I get the error Acces denide for user 'root'@'localhost' when trying to do "mysql -u root" ?? :O
[16:23] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: be careful on the http://gl860.sourceforge.net/ are also instructions for another device, you have to follow the instructions for the 0503 device
[16:23] <webbb82> it says i already have too many main partitions
[16:23] <freakynl> bubulein: hope it helps... if you know your pc (ie approx time until when it loads) it's doable, but i practically live with my pc, then again, blind ppl might have better sense of time
[16:23] <Pelo> webbb82, you can only have  4 primary partiotions,  if you want more you need to make .... logical ones,  nested
[16:23] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, i told you that it's driver issue. with compiz set to vblank or not?
[16:23] <llutz> SPhcT: it's called to be alpha, likely it will fail
[16:23] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, ok i will try it again
[16:24] <webbb82> i only have one backup partition then the main one thats only 2
[16:24] <vincent_> coucou marie
[16:25] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: compiz is set to vblank
[16:25] <vincent_> je t'aime chérie
[16:25] <freddie_> !addon
[16:25] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, sweet. i'm glad your tearings were fixed
[16:26] <babbio> i'm having this error when updating system : W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[16:26] <babbio> what should i do?
[16:27] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits thx for your help :)
[16:29] <sayanriju> babbio, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys  5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[16:29] <KaffeeJunky123> I'm having trouble with my alt gr key, it quits working after some time, here's the xev output of me pressing the alt gr key http://pastebin.org/86291
[16:30] <sayanriju> babbio, then sudo apt-get update
[16:30] <KaffeeJunky123> I'm using an usb keyboard and an asus m2n32sli deluxe mainboard, the problem occurs since a bios update
[16:30] <KaffeeJunky123> restarting gdm will fix it for some time
[16:30] <souhail> hi all
[16:31] <babbio> thanku.....
[16:31] <Magellan> query
[16:32] <Mateo_> hey :)  back ...
[16:32] <Mateo_> anyone who already has tried to explorer a .disk from wubi with explore2fs please ? because it looks like i can't ::s
[16:33] <cyberjunk502> subversion error
[16:33] <Anarki2004> anybody know why grub returns the error "no such device: f74c83c6-1280-40c5-8314-0e209ed3b0c1"
[16:34] <Necro-File> I am having some trouble installing to an Acer netbook; using the desktop i386 9.10 iso, I have no mouse and keyboard support during the installation. Once I get to the language selection, I can't proceed because I can't click "next." I can't seem to get the netbook remix iso to boot from USB properly, and was just wondering if it's necessary to use the netbook remix ISO to install to a...
[16:34] <Necro-File> ...netbook, or if it was just an interface change specifically for the smaller screens.
[16:34] <cyberjunk502> need help subversion error while executing svn update error is Skipped '-'
[16:35] <genii> Necro-File: You can install from a regular i386 CD and install ubuntu-netbook package, etc
[16:36] <cyberjunk502> need help subversion error while executing svn update error is Skipped '-' anyone help
[16:36] <Necro-File> Is there something I need to do to get the keyboard and touchpad to work?
[16:36] <Necro-File> nvm
[16:36] <Necro-File> it seems to work now XD
[16:36] <KaffeeJunky123> my alt-gr key stops working as soon as I use one of the media keys on my g15, I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 with an asus m2n32sli deluxe mainboard, any1 an idea what could case that?
[16:39] <Anarki2004> i need assistance configuring GRUB to boot 9.10. I have XP installed on one partition and the GRUB loader boots without any issues. When I select "ubuntu" GRUB returns with "error: no such device: f74c83c6-1280-40c5-8314-0e209ed3b0c1"
[16:40] <albasheers> When launching , minimizing , maximizing any application ubuntu karmic koala hangs , any fixes for this issue
[16:40] <cretzul> este cine on
[16:40] <cretzul> este cine on
[16:41] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[16:42] <NfNitLoop> Does the Ubuntu Desktop CD allow you to boot from CD?  Or is there a version that does that?
[16:42] <BeardedChimp> If I have the interfaces file set to dhcp, how can I set it so that it reverts to a static ip if dhcp fails?
[16:42] <Myrtti> NfNitLoop: yes, it does
[16:42] <DJones> NfNitLoop: The desktop cd is a live cd which will boot and run in memory
[16:42] <michaeldobrovits> NfNitLoop, yep it is a live cd
[16:42] <NfNitLoop> Cool.
[16:42] <KaffeeJunky123> I'm having issues with alt gr not working after I've pressed a media key on my g15, I'm on ubuntu 9.04, anyone an idea how to slove that issue?
[16:42] <ubuntu> it allows us to boot from itself
[16:42] <NfNitLoop> The server version (which I have burned) seems not to be a liveboot.
[16:43] <ubuntu> nick: 20boy
[16:43] <nerdy_kid> anyone know when the KDE 4.4RC3 packages are coming to kubuntu?
[16:43] <Myrtti> NfNitLoop: the server version doesn't come with X, true
[16:43] <Myrtti> NfNitLoop: it should boot the computer, though
[16:43] <DJones> NfNitLoop: No, the server version isn't a live cd, plus it doesn't have a gui interface so you'd be using command line if you installed from it
[16:43] <Mateo_> noone ?
[16:43] <ubuntu> how do i change me name, please?
[16:43] <KaffeeJunky123> nerdy_kid: if you really want them you could try to compile them yourself
[16:44] <Myrtti> ubuntu: /nick nickname
[16:44] <Myrtti> there ya go
[16:44] <NfNitLoop> Ok, thanks for the help!  I just didn't want to go down that path if it couldn't liveboot.   It's been a while since I installed fresh.
[16:44] <me20> n/nick me2010
[16:44] <DJones> NfNitLoop: If you're machine is capeable of it, you can also boot from a USB stick
[16:44] <me2010> a'ite i managed it
[16:44] <me2010> how to quit chat ?
[16:44] <NfNitLoop> I've got a system running some unknown distribution of Linux and we had a RAID failure...  so I'm going to use liveboot to try to diagnose WTH is going on.
[16:44] <nerdy_kid> KaffeJunky my processer sucks, and it would probably make a mess out of my system.
[16:45] <subspider> hey everybody
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yyo
[16:46] <subspider> i have a sound card that can hold more than one output how can i configure cus my headset is not working
[16:46] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: last try sorry... i can't access the .disk with explorer2fs, any alternative ? (the other one on the wubi guide doesn't work for me )
[16:47] <zealot> man
[16:47] <zealot> theres so much disconnect/connect flooding in here
[16:47] <zealot> how do you guys manage to have a conversation
[16:47] <korb> can someone recommend me a good GATEWAY SOFTWARE GPL that has nice and easy web administration and limitation capabilites as timer and bandwidth ?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> zealot: filter it out
[16:47] <sebsebseb> Mateo_:uhmm  there will be  others about who can help you, but you need to tell them your problem
[16:47] <zealot> how do i do that in irssi?
[16:48] <Myrtti> !quietirssi | zealot
[16:48] <zealot> lol
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> zealot, not sure, i use pidgin which has a plugin. i'm sure it has a command you can use though
[16:48] <Mateo_> Yep, i'm trying to open a .disk from a wubi install to take my files, but i can't access to it with the explorer2fs soft
[16:48] <subspider> i have a sound card that can hold more than one output how can i configure cus my headset is not working
[16:48] <Mateo_> (i'm running windows seven actually but have a live CD on hand)
[16:49] <slnner> anyone that knows how to enable active scripting under wine could pm me pls?
[16:49] <zealot> subspider: install OSS4
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, can't you boot to the disk to get out what you need instead?
[16:50] <subspider> thnks
[16:50] <korb> can someone recommend me a good GATEWAY SOFTWARE GPL that has nice and easy web administration and limitation capabilites as timer and bandwidth ?
[16:50] <zealot> subspider: and get rid of ALSA
[16:50] <subspider> rid??
[16:50] <zealot> yes remove it
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> !ics | korb
[16:50] <chisel_> could someone walk me thru a installation of a tar.gz puhleez?
[16:50] <subspider> hm ok
[16:50] <zealot> ALSA has all kinds of problems
[16:50] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: my boot is broken, i don't know how to solve that, i'm stuck on a screen with GRUB4DOS ......... MenuEnd: 0x.... and a prompt
[16:50] <zealot> its a huge mess
[16:50] <zealot> OSS4 works a lot better
[16:50] <zealot> i dont know if theres a deb package for it yet
[16:50] <subspider> nice man
[16:50] <zealot> you might have to compile from source
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, restore from backups then, much easier
[16:51] <subspider> i'm gone gi it a try
[16:51] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: restore from backups ? how ? which backup ?
[16:51] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: he has some data in wubi that he wants to get hold of
[16:51] <slnner> making sound work with alsamixer was pretty easy for me.
[16:51] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ,but wubi won't load up Ubuntu
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_,if the data is important you will have made a backup
[16:52] <Mateo_> ....
[16:52] <Mateo_> i usually do, but not this time and of course, here it happens
[16:52] <zealot> yeah you can use alsamixer
[16:52] <Mateo_> law of murphy ?
[16:52] <zealot> thats like the one neat thing alsa has
[16:52] <zealot> oss doesnt really have any good commandline mixers that im aware of
[16:52] <subspider> almixer
[16:52] <zealot> theres one, but its completely broken
[16:52] <subspider> ok
[16:52] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: so i don't have any
[16:53] <zealot> well it has commandline mixer by default
[16:53] <zealot> but its not graphical
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, eseentially yes. this is one reason i hate wubi, you cant boot to livecd and fix it as its not a true install
[16:53] <freddie_> cè qualcuno italiano?
[16:53] <subspider> ok
[16:53] <ben_> do they have video for wallpaper in ubuntu
[16:53] <sebsebseb> !it | freddie_
[16:53] <MoonShadow> !answer
[16:53] <MoonShadow> !question
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: yep what ActionParsnip said,  your not the only one to have had data in it, and then problem though
[16:54] <slnner> anyone know how to enable active scripting under wine?
[16:54] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: really wubi probably shoudn't be relyed on for any important data, just to get a feel for Ubuntu, then  do a real partitioend install :)
[16:54] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: that's the last time i install a wubi one ... next time will be a real one but first i REAAALLLY have to get my data back
[16:54] <djungelkraem> i need a picture-uploading site. anyone?
[16:54] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: i will just after all my backups
[16:54] <Mateo_> :)
[16:54] <llutz> sebsebseb: independ on your kind of installation: if you have valuable data, you have to backup it period
[16:55] <zealot> hey
[16:55] <zealot> if you are going to install ubuntu
[16:55] <zealot> and dual boot
[16:55] <zealot> do not use gparted
[16:55] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: and sure what llutz   put  whatever install/OS you got  important data should be backed up
[16:55] <zealot> i dont know why they still include gparted with ubuntu
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, there may be guides on how to mount the file under linux otherwise I have no idea
[16:55] <zealot> but it has segfaulted every single time ive used it
[16:55] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: he has tried something, but didn't work out for him
[16:56] <zealot> and ruined all the data on my hardddrive
[16:56] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I guess he was doing something wrong
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> zealot: its really useful for partitioning disks
[16:56] <zealot> use cfdisk
[16:56] <zealot> no its not
[16:56] <zealot> i mean
[16:56] <zealot> its useful in that it has a nice graphical interface
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> zeltak, thats your poor use o the app then, gparted is a great app
[16:56] <sebsebseb> zealot: gparted is useful
[16:56] <zealot> but its completely unstable
[16:56] <sebsebseb> zealot: if you don't want to use gparted, just use manual instal
[16:56] <zealot> and is prone to crash right in the middle of partitioning
[16:56] <zealot> and corrupt all the data on everything
[16:57] <zealot> so use cfdisk
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> zealot, did you update gparted before using it?
[16:57] <slnner> ya i had no problems with gparted
[16:57] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: well patience I guess,  there will be someone here later who can help  you with Wubi probably
[16:57] <zealot> zealot: of course not it was on the ubuntu livecd
[16:57] <zealot> i just threw out the livecd and got the alternate install cd
[16:57] <slnner> anyone know how to enable active scripting under wine?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> zealot, you can still update the envioronment n the livecd
[16:57] <zealot> and used the partitioner in that
[16:57]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves.
[16:57] <zealot> ActionParsnip: whats the point
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> sipior, i'd ask in #winehq
[16:57] <ben_> are there animated backgounds for ubuntu?
[16:57] <Mateo_> yep, patience
[16:57] <zealot> ActionParsnip: when i can just use fdisk or cfdisk
[16:58] <slnner> thx ActionParsnip
[16:58] <sipior> ActionParsnip: tab-complete failure? :-)
[16:58] <zealot> cfdisk is probably the easiest partitioner you could ever use
[16:58] <yaaar> howdy
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> zealot, there will most likely be an upddate for it which fixes bugs etc like any other update
[16:58] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: if at least i could get my data back ... that would be wonderfull :)
[16:58] <zealot> and its never caused me any problems
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> zealot,it may fix the issue you are having
[16:58] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: you can also try ubuntuforums
[16:58] <zealot> ActionParsnip: no thanks ill just use cfdisk
[16:58] <ericstewart> Do apt-get and aptitude use the same local package database?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> zealot, thats fine too
[16:58] <ppaulhus> Hi. I have a directory with those permissions: drwxr-s---     how can i remove that s for the group?
[16:58] <Darks7ar> Hi.Is here someone who is familiar with couter strike servers?
[16:59] <korb> can someone recommend me a good GATEWAY SOFTWARE GPL that has nice and easy web administration and limitation capabilites as timer and bandwidth ?
[16:59] <zealot> ActionParsnip: ubuntu really shouldnt include unstable software
[16:59] <zealot> especially unstable disk partitioners
[16:59] <axz> Guys whats does this mean and how to activate it? nm-pptp-service-6125 log[main:pptp.c:314]: The synchronous pptp option is NOT activated
[16:59] <llutz> ppaulhus: sudo chmod g-s
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> zealot, read you EULA dude
[16:59] <zealot> ActionParsnip: why?
[16:59] <sebsebseb> zealot: gparted is a good program
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> zealot, linux comes with zero garuntees and no sla
[16:59] <zealot> ActionParsnip: I know canonical isnt responsible for any damages
[16:59] <ppaulhus> llutz: and what exactly is the difference between s or S ?
[16:59] <zealot> im just trying to tell other people here
[16:59] <zealot> dont mess around with gparted
[17:00] <sebsebseb> zealot: no
[17:00] <sebsebseb> zealot: it works for most people just fine
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> zealot, i've never had an issue with it personally
[17:00] <zealot> cause you might ruin your other partitions
[17:00] <zealot> just stick with something thats tried and true
[17:00] <zealot> like fdisk
[17:00] <zealot> or cfdisk
[17:00] <sebsebseb> zealot: gparted is tried and used
[17:00] <zealot> nah
[17:00] <sipior> zealot: yes, "easy to use" for our new users :-)
[17:00] <zealot> every time i used it it segfaulted while partitioning
[17:00] <sebsebseb> zealot: also most people don't use the commands  or anything that would run in the shell, to set up partitions, that do Ubuntu
[17:00] <zealot> and i used several different versions
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> zealot, you are using linux though so you are not forced to use gparted in any way
[17:01] <axz> Could someone please help me with VPN problem here is the error > http://pastebin.com/d795c139d
[17:01] <llutz> ppaulhus: S?
[17:01] <zealot> sebsebseb: well thats kind of dumb
[17:01] <zealot> i mean
[17:01] <dbruns> I set up my ubuntu server to allow me to log in thru ssh and authenticate without a password  a while ago and in the process, I somehow disabled the ability to login with a password, where is that located/ I'm assuming in /etc/ssh/ssh_config or sshd_config but I can't seem to find it
[17:01] <zealot> if you're gonna use UNIX
[17:01] <zealot> you should probably learn some UNIX commands
[17:01] <FloodBot2> zealot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <kristian_> is there any solution for waking up karmic - since if i try it stays in the screensaver mode and i have to activate the ESCAPE button several times until I can log in.
[17:01] <ppaulhus> llutz: the permission im trying to replicated are those: drwxr-s--- 2 mysql adm  4096 2010-02-04 15:16 mysql   and when I did g+s it now prints this drwxr-S--- 2 mysql     adm    4096 2010-02-04 16:48 mysql
[17:02] <zealot> you can only do so much with all these bloated graphical tools
[17:02] <zealot> and they are a lot slower
[17:02] <zealot> and buggier
[17:02] <sipior> zealot: is there a point to your rambling?
[17:02] <zealot> yeah; dont use gparted
[17:02] <newbie005> is there a way to superimpose an image of text that I specify over an existing image?
[17:02] <ppaulhus> llutz: notice the capital s... not sure if it means anything
[17:02] <sebsebseb> zealot: graphical tools can be slower, but they are usueally fine for what they do
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> zealot, true but users like guis, i fnd as they delve deeper they will tend towards the trminal
[17:02] <zealot> nah thats not what happens
[17:02] <zealot> if you have a system that holds their hand all the time
[17:03] <zealot> and tries to guide them through everything step by step
[17:03] <sebsebseb> zealot: if you want to use command line tools and so on more,  use Gentoo or something
[17:03] <sipior> zealot: look this is off-topic. time to move along.
[17:03] <zealot> they become dependent on that kind of stuff
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> zealot, its what i've seen so i'm saying it does, as with life there is no hard and fast rule
[17:03] <zealot> and when it breaks, and it always does eventually, they are screwed
[17:03] <llutz> ppaulhus: i wonder about the capital S, only know lowercase s
[17:03] <zealot> like for example
[17:03] <zealot> what if sudo breaks
[17:03] <zealot> on ubuntu
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> zealot, boot to recovery root console and fix
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> zeltak, or liveCD
[17:04] <Dc> hi all I've been trying to fix a problem with two laptops that wont boot. when i try to use a start up disk it starts to load then freezes up. there is a led that looks like the cap lock that starts flashing. anyone else ever have this problem.
[17:04] <sebsebseb> Pici: oh he was evading a ban, that explains it,  that guy did seem like a sort of troll
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Dc: try some boot options, you should disable the boot splash so youcan see whats what
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> DC: also test your ram
[17:05] <newbie005> found it using the convert and composite command
[17:05] <Dc> they are owned by my sister and my wife's friend. i tried the mem test... both good
[17:05] <daftykins> Dc: also flashing caps lock can sometimes be laptop manufacturer based error reports
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Dc
[17:06] <Dc> about to try disabling the splash
[17:06] <Dc> i love this community and all of the help... thanks everyone
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Dc: and the community loves you
[17:07] <llutz> ppaulhus: ah, S means sgid set, but not execute
[17:07] <ppaulhus> llutz: yeah, i saw that on wikipedia... but i dunno how to change the S to s
[17:07] <llutz> ppaulhus: chmod g+x
[17:07] <ppaulhus> llutz: whatever I try doesnt seem to work
[17:08] <ppaulhus> llutz: ahh thx... i did g-x... stupid
[17:08] <dralcohen> I'm looking into getting a netbook (probably an Asus) for making presentations (open office, pdf, etc).  Most of the netbooks are limited to 1024x600 screen resolution.  I want to double check that a netbook with Ubuntu running on it would be able to send 1024x768 images to the projector.  Has anyone confirmed that this can be done?
[17:08] <axz> Could someone please help me with VPN problem here is the error > http://pastebin.com/d795c139d
[17:08] <VectorX> hi
[17:08] <flootenkerp> Erm, hi. I screwed up pretty badly with compiz config settings, and now I can't see it, literally. I can open it up, and it IS there, but I can't see it at all. I was editing in brightness opacity and saturation, and did something that made it happen
[17:09] <VectorX> i got a 802.11n wireless pci card in my pc, but i am only connecting at 11b ? how can i fix this ?
[17:09] <flootenkerp> I was editing windows, I clicked on the + sign, and then clicked on grab. I grabbed the exact windows I was working on, cliked okay, but I think it made it a bit... TOO transparent
[17:09] <daftykins> flootenkerp: delete your config from ~/.compiz and reboot
[17:09] <flootenkerp> Thank you daftykins.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> VectorX, does the router support n?
[17:10] <VectorX> ActionParsnip:  yes
[17:10] <VectorX> it was working fine on windows i was getting over 100mbps
[17:11] <VectorX> now its at 2mbps
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> VectorX, run: sudo lshw -C network | grep product
[17:11] <VectorX> its using the braodcom STS driver
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> VectorX, what is the wifi dapter output?
[17:11] <VectorX> product: BCM43XG
[17:11] <popeye_> MARK SHUTTLEWORTH AND CANONICAL ANNOUNCE LINUX FOR NIGGERS
[17:11] <popeye_> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
[17:11] <popeye_> ISLE OF MAN - June 1, 2006 - At a press conference today, Canonical CEO and Free Software spokesman Mark Shuttleworth announced the immediate availability of version 6.06 of the Ubuntu Linux distribution. The latest version, known by its code name, "The Diaper Drake," includes special features designed to make Linux easier and more comfortable for niggers the world over.
[17:11] <popeye_> "Niggers have always had trouble understanding new technology," Shuttleworth began. "Computers are no exception. Some people have said this is because niggers are dumb, but I believe the real problem is that technology has traditionally been designed for white people. Ubuntu changes all that. It was developed from the ground up with niggers in mind. It will usher in a whole new era of Afro-ergonomic computing."
[17:11] <FloodBot2> popeye_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:12] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: i'm reading this:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20can%20I%20access%20my%20Wubi%20install%20and%20repair%20my%20install%20if%20it%20won%27t%20boot?  but how can i get the device name (sda1 or sda2) when i'm on the liveCD please ?
[17:12] <FloodBot2> popeye_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:12] <popeye_> "Niggers have always had trouble understanding new technology," Shuttleworth began. "Computers are no exception. Some people have said this is because niggers are dumb, but I believe the real problem is that technology has traditionally been designed for white people. Ubuntu changes all that. It was developed from the ground up with niggers in mind. It will usher in a whole new era of Afro-ergonomic computing."
[17:12] <popeye_> Shuttleworth presented an overview of some of the features users could expect in the latest version of Ubuntu, including an Ebonics-to-English converter, African "tribal beats" sound and desktop theme, and a collection of rap music and gay pornography, "which of course will be encoded using patent and royalty-free formats," Shuttleworth added, smiling. He proceeded to elaborate, but OpenOffice.org Impress crashed at that point.
[17:12] <popeye_> "But this release isn't just about new features," Shuttleworth said, making a quick segue to the humanitarian and ideological concept behind Ubuntu. "This new version brings black men closer together than ever in the spirit of Ubuntu." Shuttleworth then demonstrated the concept of Ubuntu by getting on his knees and sucking a young black boy's erect penis.
[17:12] <popeye_> About Canonical
[17:12] <popeye_> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development,distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. Canonical is a global organization headquartered in the Isle of Man, with employees throughout Europe, North America, South America and Australia. Canonical is a technology partner of the Gay Nigger Association of America, of which it holds a 36% equity stake.
[17:12] <FloodBot2> popeye_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:12] <axz> Anyone tryed to fix this? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-964255.html
[17:12] <axz> because its major annoying!
[17:13] <perlsyntax_> Is the ATI radeon HD 4350 512mb how good is it supported in ubuntu 9.10
[17:13] <perlsyntax_> is it a pci card?
[17:13] <perlsyntax_> ?
[17:14] <perlsyntax_> Anyone?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax_,sounds like a pci express card to me
[17:15] <Threetimes> Hi, i need to backup my ubuntu installation (everything but /home/peter/Muziek) from my laptop to my desktop. What is the fastest way to do this? Both pc's have a gbit NIC but the network itself (most cables and the switch) is 100 mbit.
[17:15] <perlsyntax_> i was worry how good it is supported it a dual monitor
[17:16] <llutz> Threetimes: rsync
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Threetimes, could use partimage
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[17:16] <perlsyntax_> action
[17:16] <lekefly> Question: vimo doesnt update the screen.. whats wrong..
[17:16] <VectorX> ActionParsnip: sorry lots of messages flew by wanted to check if you had said something on the issue
[17:16] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: sorry but in case you missed it i re-paste it
[17:16] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: i'm reading this:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20can%20I%20access%20my%20Wubi%20install%20and%20repair%20my%20install%20if%20it%20won%27t%20boot?  but how can i get the device name (sda1 or sda2) when i'm on the liveCD please ?
[17:16] <flootenkerp> Strange, I deleted the .compiz folder and restarted, but all my settings persist
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, sudo fdisk -l
[17:16] <flootenkerp> Unless the settings are saved somewhere else
[17:17] <soreau> flootenkerp: compiz settings are not stored in ~/.compiz
[17:17] <flootenkerp> Oh, where is it stored?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> flootenkerp, look in ~/.config
[17:17] <perlsyntax_> ActionParsnip,Is good supped on linux?
[17:17] <soreau> flootenkerp: To reset compiz settings, use ccsm>Preferences>Reset to Defaults
[17:17] <lekefly> Could someone recommend me a VNC Server..
[17:17] <flootenkerp> Erm, that's the issue
[17:17] <perlsyntax_> i hope it 3D
[17:17] <soreau> ActionParsnip: They're not stored there either if you're using the default backend
[17:18] <flootenkerp> The reason I'm deleting the settings is because I CAN'T SEE THE COMPIZ WINDOW
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax_, ati.com has a driver, make sure your version of xorg is supported by it. i dont use ati cards personally
[17:18] <flootenkerp> Apologies for caps.
[17:18] <soreau> flootenkerp: You mean ccsm is not visible?
[17:18] <perlsyntax_> i see
[17:18] <flootenkerp> Exactly
[17:18] <flootenkerp> The window for compiz config and all that belongs to it isn't visible
[17:18] <flootenkerp> It starts up, but I can't see it visibly
[17:19] <perlsyntax_>  does anyone use ATI video cards in here?
[17:19] <soreau> flootenkerp: Then get to sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects and set to None
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> flootenkerp, do it in root recovery console then or s another user which can use sudo
[17:19] <soreau> flootenkerp: That will start metacity, then you can make changes in ccsm to undo whatever you did
[17:19] <soreau> ActionParsnip: It's far easier to just start metacity
[17:20] <flootenkerp> Wouldn't it be easier to delete the settings?
[17:20] <perlsyntax_> ?
[17:20] <soreau> flootenkerp: No
[17:20] <flootenkerp> I really only have wobbly windows and desktop cube on
[17:20] <flootenkerp> I'll just reset them when I restored everything.
[17:20] <soreau> flootenkerp: Actually, if you don't have simple-ccsm installed, setting to None and back to Extra will delete your settings
[17:21] <Nando> go
[17:21] <howlymowly> hi guys...   short question. i got ma gnome panel reallly messed up...  by adding an applet "swallow" to the panel..  now I can neither click on the panel properties anymore nor  removing that applet any ideas?
[17:21] <rat_> I am upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 dun dun dun lol
[17:21] <howlymowly> what a STUPID panel applet this swallow thing.. btw
[17:21] <Nando> OLA
[17:22] <IdleOne> !panels | howlymowly
[17:22] <flootenkerp> soreau, here's what I did in detail. I opened up compiz, went to opacity, brightness, and saturation, went to windows settings under opacity, clicked the + icon, and chose the grab feature, grabbed the same window I was on, and clicked okay
[17:22] <Nando> joJOjOJOJSsJSOjsOS
[17:22] <lekefly> Could someone recommend me a VNC Server..
[17:22] <soreau> flootenkerp: I know
[17:22] <flootenkerp> Then the window was still on my taskbar, but invisible
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | lekefly
[17:22] <soreau> flootenkerp: All's you have to do is get to gnome-appearance-properties>Visual Effects tab and set to None and back to whatever it's set at now
[17:22] <howlymowly> ubottu would there be any option to just remove that one applet which messed up everything? I don't want to reconfigure my panel :)
[17:23] <howlymowly> oops lol
[17:23] <flootenkerp> So edit the metacity I'm currently on?
[17:23] <flootenkerp> And find the setting in it?
[17:24] <IdleOne> howlymowly: try killing the applet
[17:24] <howlymowly> thx IdleOne, :) thx ubottu bot...   IdleOne do you know , whether  there would be any option to just remove that one applet which messed up everything? I don't want to reconfigure my panel :)
[17:24] <soreau> flootenkerp: I'm going to tell you one last time. Go to System>Preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects tab and set to None
[17:24] <howlymowly> ahh..  thx.. I will try that
[17:24] <IdleOne> howlymowly: ps au | grep swallow or whatever the applet is called
[17:24] <flootenkerp> okay, done
[17:24] <howlymowly> IdleOne: will the applet than be removed automatically for my next login?
[17:24] <flootenkerp> That's it?
[17:25] <IdleOne> howlymowly: the kill PIDNUMBER. that should stop the applet, then remove/uninstall it
[17:25] <IdleOne> then*
[17:25] <flootenkerp> oh, now I see
[17:25] <flootenkerp> Now I can view compiz
[17:25] <flootenkerp> Thanks
[17:25] <pablo> hi
[17:25] <howlymowly> IdleOne: but how do I remove it? when I killed it, it will not show up in the panel enymore...
[17:25] <macman_> question .. my laptop is 64bit .. does ubuntu have a 64bit iso ?
[17:25] <howlymowly> ahh.. lol i can just uninstall it.. of course
[17:26] <howlymowly> jesus..  it has been a long work day
[17:26] <IdleOne> howlymowly: :)
[17:26] <pablo> macman_ yes it's a AMD64 for youu
[17:26] <howlymowly> my brain works like a snail
[17:26] <howlymowly> thx IdleOne anyway :)
[17:26] <IdleOne> sure thing
[17:27] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all
[17:27] <DavidJHeinrich> i'm having a mic problem
[17:27] <macman_> pablo: my laptop isn't amd though its intel pentium
[17:27] <DavidJHeinrich> I can hear myself in the mic, feedback when I talk into it, but can't seem to record anything or talk on skype
[17:27] <DavidJHeinrich> what's going on?
[17:27] <vm158> hi. how in ubuntu i can get control on irq? i try standart driver examples, but in "dmesg|tail" is debugger log. what can you tell?
[17:27] <pablo> mine too, and works great with AMD64!!
[17:27] <Myrtti> macman_: amd is an idiosyncrosy of the ages past. the AMD64 will work with yours
[17:27] <macman_> ok
[17:28] <pablo> AMD64 means that's a 64 bit arquitecture
[17:28] <pablo> not only works in AMD64
[17:29] <erUSUL> vm158: only th ekernel can control a irq; care to explain what are you trying to do ?
[17:30] <macman_> pablo: or Myrtti this one 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD ?
[17:30] <Myrtti> macman_: yup, you can install with that
[17:30] <flootenkerp> Now that the compiz issue is solved, does anyone here know how I can make my windows transparent?
[17:30] <pablo> macman_ yes... install that iso
[17:30] <Myrtti> macman_: remember to check the md5sum after you've downloaded it, before burning, or use bittorrent
[17:31] <macman_> Myrtti: im getting it from ubuntu website
[17:31] <macman_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[17:31] <ben_> how do i change my splash screen in ubuntu
[17:31] <panfist_> i have installed ubuntu onto one hard drive out of seven in my computer. when i boot from this hard drive, i just get a blinking cursor indefinitely, no grub starting message or anything like that...
[17:31] <vm158> erUSUL, it's a virtual machine, but its can give guest OS control on hardware. i think, its can be my diplom project in my university
[17:31] <Myrtti> macman_: that same page has the md5sum you can use to check that the download was successfull without errors
[17:32] <howlymowly> ok.. IdleOne that worked... thx...  do you know whether there is a "generic" way to get a new ".profile" file in my home dirctory, since I accidentally deleted mine doesn't seem to be replaced by ubuntu though (I wonder if I need it then, anyway, because my .bashrc is still working...) its just that my ~/bin directory stopped working since then..  the path directory usually gets updated by the .profile i guess...
[17:32] <IdleOne> howlymowly: no idea
[17:33] <macman_> Myrtti: yea thanks i see teh md5sum
[17:33] <smokey6100> hey does anyone know how to fix the compiz effects
[17:33] <ben_> where do i go to learn ubuntu i'm newto linux just switched from windows
[17:33] <IdleOne> smokey6100: #compiz does :)
[17:34] <iceroot> ben_: best by trying and using it and if there are problems, this is a good place to ask
[17:34] <k0d3g3ar> ben:  congrats!  you made a good move there
[17:34] <smokey6100> I'm using ubuntu 9.10 i switched from 8.04 and lost all my effects
[17:34] <Myrtti> ben_: hanging around here is a good way to learn and ask if you get any troubles
[17:35] <ben_> lovin it so far, trying to change the splash screen?
[17:35] <IdleOne> !splash | ben_
[17:35] <enrico_> hallo,can tou support me in italian lanfuage,thank you
[17:35] <Myrtti> !it | enrico_
[17:36] <jken146> !it | enrico_
[17:36] <erUSUL> vm158: do not think this is thwe channel to discuss about writting vm machines for linux kernel ....
[17:36] <ben_> thanx
[17:36] <erUSUL> vm158: but source code is aviable you can see what othe VM do it ;)
[17:37] <IdleOne> ben_: gnome-splashscreen-manager is a package you can install using the Software center or Synaptic package manager
[17:38] <flootenkerp> Does anyone here know how to make windows transparent, or know of a transparent metacity theme for ubuntu?
[17:38] <Aethelred> I run 9.04 amd64. I've somehow removed the little magnify-glass logo (tracker?) from the menu bar (it was next to my volume control). I don't see it in the "Add to Panel" list. How can I get it back?
[17:39] <xover> guys, my mouse is acting like a tortoise, i dont know how else to describe it, its moving very slowly, works fine under windows.
[17:39] <acicula> Aethelred: i think its called the tracker applet yeah, may just be that you need to start the tracker-applet again?
[17:40] <acicula> xover: tried changing mouse acceleration settings?
[17:40] <macman_> its probably faster to download this via torrent
[17:40] <diddy> Is there a shortcut key for locking the computer screen?
[17:40] <emlod> In ubuntu, my new active windows does not always get put on top... most often this happends in firefox when clicking a link... what could be wrong? i don't have any clue where to start... also, inactive windows tend to keep sitting on top of active windows that i click, without choseing them from the taskbar...
[17:41] <trism> diddy: ctrl+alt+l according to System/Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts
[17:41] <diddy> trism, TY.
[17:41] <Aethelred> acicula: I can get the tracker applet from [Application]->[Accessories]->[Tracker Search Tool] ... but that just brings up the Tracker window.
[17:41] <xover> acicula: its set to full, its starting acting like a slug recently, bounce the system already.
[17:42] <panfist_> i have installed ubuntu onto one hard drive out of seven in my computer. when i boot from this hard drive, i just get a blinking cursor indefinitely, no grub starting message or anything like that...
[17:42] <Futurist> xbmc
[17:42] <macman_> do i really need the amd64 iso .. im boot up with a 32bit ubuntu live cd and it looks fine
[17:42] <Futurist> any compiled successfully use bcm70012 on Karmic
[17:43] <Myrtti> macman_: it's entirely up to you
[17:43] <IdleOne> macman_: you don't "need" it if you are happy running 32bit.
[17:43] <boourns> MacGyverNL, i went with 32 bit even though i could have done 64 and have been on it for years... its fine, no real disadvantages
[17:43] <SPhcT> i get error on my extrnal disk what it has many bad sectors but i get it only on ubuntu
[17:43] <macman_> the latptop im running right now im on ubuntu 32bit .. i just got  studio 17 inch x64 yesterday
[17:43] <acicula> Aethelred: start a console and type tracker-applet
[17:44] <SPhcT> can i fix it ?
[17:44] <acicula> macman_: no you dont _need_ 64bit
[17:44] <macman_> hmm..
[17:44] <macman_> acicula: is there a diffrence ?
[17:44] <acicula> macman_: technically yes
[17:45] <macman_> 64 is for gaming correct
[17:45] <acicula> macman_: for an end user the difference is rather small
[17:45] <Aethelred> acicula: uh... ok. I did that.  Nothing seems to be happening.  ... though I guess something is running since that term hasn't returned a prompt.
[17:45] <acicula> macman_: no
[17:45] <boourns> SPhcT, typically means the drive is degrading... windows xp ignores it, and vista/7 will tell you if it's bad enough.  back up your data!  it could fail any day.
[17:45] <acicula> Aethelred: well the applet is running but not showing then odd
[17:45] <ubuntu> are there any graphical tool in Ubuntu For writing Floppy disk images?
[17:45] <vlt> Hello.  Can I tell vlc to use a larger cache?
[17:45] <acicula> macman_: none of the differences in the isos has anything to do with gaming, they do that equally well
[17:46] <acicula> !amd64
[17:46] <crypton> Hello all! Anybody synchronized photos with ipod?
[17:46] <gokturk> #ubuntu-tr
[17:46] <Aethelred> acicula: yeah, ps -ef shows trackerd and tracker-applet running
[17:46] <DavidJHeinrich> can someone PLEASE help me with my microphone?
[17:46] <Aethelred> acicula: (tracker-applet comes up twice, actually)
[17:46] <DavidJHeinrich> I can hear feedback on it, hear my typing amplified, but can't record anything!
[17:46] <DavidJHeinrich> arg
[17:46] <kane77> I have files in format 012X-something (where X is number from 4-9 and I want to rename it to something like 012Xsomethingelse, how would I do it in bash?
[17:46] <boourns> you would need to be doing processor-intensive work, and have software that takes advantage of 64 bit, to "need" 64 bit... like video encoding maybe?
[17:46] <emlod> In ubuntu, my new active windows does not always get put on top... most often this happends in firefox when clicking a link... what could be wrong?
[17:47] <acicula> Aethelred: yeah because we started it too
[17:47] <basty> Hi
[17:47] <acicula> Aethelred: i dunno, wiping the tracker configuration data may work but i dont know that much about where it puts that
[17:47] <Myrtti> DavidJHeinrich: does ekiga/skype/etc work?
[17:47] <DavidJHeinrich> nope
[17:47] <DavidJHeinrich> not for voice
[17:47] <DavidJHeinrich> nothing getting sound in works...
[17:48] <acicula> DavidJHeinrich: open a console and type gstreamer-properties
[17:48] <Aethelred> acicula: yeah, it would be just as easy for me to go spelunking the system for that info as for you to do it.
[17:48] <DavidJHeinrich> except if I adjust Mic & Mic boost sliders, this feedback disappears (no-longer hear keyboard)...so it is working somehow there
[17:48] <acicula> and then try to test your mic
[17:48] <SPhcT> boourns, i have about 164bad sectors but it is not much if i have 1tb hard drive?
[17:48] <basty> I want to create a drdb raid with ubuntu. So it seems, that for the mirror I need to have seperat partitions. My problem is, that the server is setup for good - but I didnt do special partitions. Is it possible to make some partitions after ?
[17:48] <Aethelred> acicula: I thought it was just a little panel item.
[17:48] <kane77> boourns, let's not forget about >4GB of ram :)
[17:48] <boourns> emlod, what happens, does firefox open the new link in a tab?  this is default behavior of firefox i believe, for web pages that try to open a new window
[17:48] <DavidJHeinrich> acicula, ok will try
[17:48] <Aethelred> acicula: This all started when I decided to try gdesklets
[17:48] <howlymowly> hi guys...  is there any command in ubuntu to generate a new ~/.profile  for my home directory?
[17:49] <Aethelred> acicula: I found gdesklets to be exceptionally unsatisfying
[17:49] <boourns> SPhcT, i'm no expert but i'm never comfortable when i see bad sectors... i would expect the problem to get worse over time
[17:49] <DavidJHeinrich> acicula, how do I test it in the Multimedia Systems Selector?
[17:49] <DavidJHeinrich> I see "Default Input", Plugin, Device, etc
[17:50] <acicula> input means microphon
[17:50] <emlod> boourns, no, i'm talking about pages that open in a new browser\page... they open, but they hide behind the window you clicked the link on.... same with popups, eg. calendar choosers to choose dates for a form, they hide behind the current window...
[17:50] <boourns> kane77, u an avidemux guru by any chance?  i'm in need of someone who knows it well, to pick their brain a little..
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> yea, it just says testing with a bar moving back and forth
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> how am I supposed to tell if working?
[17:50] <acicula> it stops and plays back the recording
[17:50] <boourns> emlod, hmm.  let me google for you, one sec
[17:50] <acicula> no sound means its not working
[17:50] <gerrin> looking for internet browsers other than firefox, any suggestions?
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> what do you mean it stops?
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> automatically?
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> or do I click "Ok"?
[17:51] <kane77> boourns, I'm using it from time to time, ut I wouldn't call myself guru, but fire away
[17:51] <vhborges88> hi all!
[17:51] <acicula> DavidJHeinrich: yeah you click ok
[17:51] <DavidJHeinrich> I see "Testing... <bar moving back and forth> ... click OK to finish"
[17:51] <DavidJHeinrich> hear nothing
[17:51] <emlod> boourns, thank you... have tried some, but it's a random problem, and haven't found anything so far... i just don't know where to start :p
[17:51] <acicula> then its not working
[17:51] <acicula> !sound
[17:51] <DavidJHeinrich> but why am I hearing myself!
[17:51] <acicula> eh?
[17:52] <acicula> you just said it didnt work?
[17:52] <SPhcT> boourns, it show also if problem is on my system disk or only external drives
[17:52] <DavidJHeinrich> ok, in GNOME Alsa Mixer, I can adjust many things, including Mic & Mic Boost...if I turn Mic or Mic Boost down to zero, I don't hear echos of my own keyboard typing into my headset
[17:52] <vhborges88> hey guys, can anyone help me? i just cant update ubuntu :(
[17:52] <kane77> acicula, he said it does not record the sound
[17:52] <DavidJHeinrich> the mic is picking up my keyboard strokes and amplifying them into my head
[17:52] <macman_> according to this i shouldn't install x64 ubuntu
[17:52] <acicula> oh like so
[17:53] <DavidJHeinrich> but yet, I can't record anything
[17:53] <boourns> kane77, i have like 100 short avi's i need to append together, they are all xvid/mp3 and the same resolution... but when i do it with an avidemux script, the audio always loses sync... i even did audio normalizing, makes no difference
[17:53] <DavidJHeinrich> i even hear music from TV in another room being amplified in my head
[17:53] <macman_> http://pastie.org/809659 < -- drawbacks of having ubuntu 64bit
[17:54] <DavidJHeinrich> so any idea what's going on?
[17:54] <acicula> whats biarch and why do you care?
[17:54] <vhborges88> i have it, and now my problem is: i cant update it
[17:54] <acicula> DavidJHeinrich: not really :/
[17:54] <rasstar> anyone ever heard of or tried ultimate edition?
[17:54] <macman_> acicula: according to that website .. x64 i can't install a lot of stuff ie synaptics ..i use a lpatop i need it
[17:54] <Myrtti> rasstar: have heard, advice everyone to stay away from it.
[17:54] <rasstar> really
[17:54] <boourns> emlod, does this sound like your problem? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs/2009-March/072412.html
[17:54] <rasstar> downloading it now. seems like ubuntu with new themes and what not
[17:54] <acicula> macman_: there are only a few select non-open source programs that arent available in 64bit
[17:55] <Myrtti> rasstar: new themes is a lame excuse to download something that limits your options for support
[17:55] <DavidJHeinrich> acicula: the fact that I'm hearing sound-feedback suggests _something_ is working right, and it is controllable from the alsa mixer so I can eliminate it
[17:55] <vhborges88> ubuntu servers are down? wtf
[17:56] <bullgard4> My Karmic computer shows on tty7 a black screen, a movable cursor and "detlef@T43:~$" but does not echo any key press. But it showed the brown login screen and I could log in normally. How to get back X?
[17:56] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: note the possibility that you have an analogue feedback loop, like my computer does
[17:56] <reeeeeesty> hey, im havin trouble on two particular questions from my homework, lol... can someone help? 9. If you do not install grub on the master boot record of the hard disk, how can you boot Linux? 2. Why would you place /var at the beginning of the disk?
[17:56] <rasstar> doesn't really matter to me
[17:56] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: that is, the sound may go from your mic to your speakers directly, without ever reaching the OS
[17:56] <acicula> DavidJHeinrich: i think that has more to do with the SC itself, but dunno, all i can do is point you to the sound trouble shooting card
[17:56] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: but if that's so, why is it controllable by the GNOME  Alsa Sound mixer?
[17:57] <Myrtti> !ultimate | rasstar, good luck with it then.
[17:57] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: because the mixer can still turn that stuff on and off, it just cant intercept the sounds
[17:57] <DavidJHeinrich> ahhh
[17:57] <DavidJHeinrich> damnit
[17:57] <DavidJHeinrich> i have onboard sound
[17:57] <emlod> boourns, no that is not it... my problems is with actual windows... not images layd on top of things...
[17:57] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: file a bug "ubuntu-bug linux"
[17:57] <g0th> hi
[17:57] <DavidJHeinrich> i wonder if its flaky, or if drivers need upgrading?
[17:58] <reeeeeesty> anyone?
[17:58] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: its a driver issue
[17:58] <g0th> I have a snd-hda-intel soundcard but mplayer/etc doesn't work
[17:58] <g0th> there is no device in /dev/snd/*
[17:58] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: test with a lucid livecd first, really... then if it doesnt work there, file a bug
[17:58] <DavidJHeinrich> lucid livece?
[17:58] <maco> g0th: definitely need to file a bug on that
[17:58] <sipior> reeeeeesty: do your own homework.
[17:58] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: lucid is the development version right now
[17:58] <g0th> how to check if the soundcard works?
[17:59] <llutz> reeeeeesty: a. you'll need another bootmanager to boot. b) maybe to speedup access
[17:59] <acicula> !sound | g0th best to start here
[17:59] <g0th> and what exactly is /dev/snd/*? How to enable it first
[17:59] <SPhcT> Disk have failing... it show also if problem is on my system disk or only external drives??
[17:59] <llutz> reeeeeesty: tell you teacher, that you didn't answer it yourself
[17:59] <acicula> g0th: its where the sound devices live
[17:59] <acicula> some of them anyway
[17:59] <DavidJHeinrich> oh, you mean, lucid is the development version of Ubuntu?
[17:59] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20100203.1/
[17:59] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: yes
[17:59] <reeeeeesty> thast what i was gonna answer anyway
[17:59] <g0th> ok, so /dev/snd/ is not related to oss/alsa?
[17:59] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: boot from a live cd to see if it's fixed in lucid yet, and if its not, file a bug
[18:00] <reeeeeesty> but i cant find it in this huge book lol
[18:00] <DavidJHeinrich> in Multimedia Systems Selector, it says my sound Device is AD198x , is that what I should look for?
[18:00] <maco> g0th: get http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and run it in bash (not sh!) and paste the link it gives you here
[18:00] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: or pulseaudio.  im not sure about the window you're looking at though. i use kubuntu
[18:01] <macman_> thanks to all who are seeding ubuntu
[18:01] <acicula> g0th: /dev/snd/* are governed by alsa
[18:01] <acicula> g0th: which ubuntu version are you using?
[18:01] <emlod> boourns, i just figured out that it only happens when i am running rdesktop... i'll do some searching myself... thank you for your time
[18:02] <g0th>  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c7f052648567db60e3ca7a5f99c261b9fcb8c678
[18:02] <macman_> anyone on a dell studio 17 with ubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:02] <macman_> if so how did the install go ?
[18:02] <g0th> The question was: is /dev/snd/ a userspace thing or from the kernel?
[18:02] <CAPcap> tin1
[18:02] <maco> g0th: yeah, file a bug. alsa's not recognizing your sound card at all
[18:03] <acicula> g0th: crossover
[18:03] <macman_> anyone using ubuntu to print to an actual printer ? i was on a mac a while back and printing to a shared windows computer was horrible
[18:03] <acicula> g0th: the devices are used to talk in user space to the kernel driver.
[18:03] <CAPcap> macman_, i print through a windows shared computer
[18:04] <CAPcap> printer**
[18:04] <g0th> acicula: but if they are not here, then something with my kernel is wrong, not with the userspace alsa stuff
[18:04] <g0th> right?
[18:04] <macman_> i have the driver cd for the printer but i don't think they work in linux
[18:04] <macman_> CAPcap: did you get that about the drivers ?
[18:04] <g0th> so I wonder: what module do I need to install?
[18:04] <Myrtti> macman_: some printers Just Work when you plug them in
[18:04] <g0th> I already have snd-hda-intel installed
[18:04] <Myrtti> macman_: which printer do you have?
[18:04] <CAPcap> no i didnt macman_
[18:05] <macman_> let me go get it .. its in the other room is an espon one it .. it has wifi on it
[18:05] <macman_> workforce something
[18:06] <bittin>  i tried dd now will see if it works if it does i will write floppy #2 :
[18:06] <Myrtti> macman_: there seems to be guides in the interwebs for getting it work, if I saw correctly with my quick glance
[18:07] <g0th> ohh I found some options for snd-hda-intel (from my old kernel configuration, I forgot it)
[18:07] <g0th> options snd-hda-intel model=3stack-dig
[18:07] <flootenkerp> Does anyone know how I can make windows transparent?
[18:07] <g0th> options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1
[18:07] <g0th> options snd-hda-intel single_cmd=1
[18:07] <FloodBot2> g0th: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <g0th> They are in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[18:07] <gokturk_> #pardus
[18:08] <gokturk_> #ubuntu-tr
[18:08] <peruna1> Sound disappeared in Jaunty
[18:09] <pdg1> still having a really hard time with this SATA hard drive. it's not even being recognized in the BIOS... but i know it's plugged into a PCI card adapter. Problem started when i replaced Ubuntu with Xubuntu. any ideas?
[18:10] <criipt_> !find saa7134
[18:11] <Niicole> hoola=D
[18:11] <Niicole> OLaaa qq taL?
[18:12] <erUSUL> !es | Niicole
[18:12] <axz> Could someone please help me with VPN problem here is the error > http://pastebin.com/d795c139d
[18:12] <axz> PPTP..
[18:13] <huey23> is there a good tut on how to use multiple displays on ubuntu 9.10 on a laptop?
[18:15] <EliasAmaral> huey23, aren't you being too specific?
[18:15] <EliasAmaral> huey23, http://www.google.com.br/search?&q=multiple+displays+ubuntu
[18:15] <enrico_> can i have italian support?
[18:16] <Pici> !it | enrico_
[18:16] <enrico_> sorry
[18:16] <melow01> I'd like to apt-get open office. Is there a terminal command to check the size of the package before I download and install it?
[18:16] <EliasAmaral> enrico_, don't be sorry, you can :) (but this channel is english-only)
[18:16] <huey23> EliasAmaral:  i do not have an xorg.conf file
[18:16] <llutz> melow01: sudo aptitude install openoffice.org -s
[18:17] <g0th> I get the following message when I load the module: http://pastebin.com/m3f83e64a
[18:17] <g0th> any idea why I don't see anything in /dev/snd/ ?
[18:17] <EliasAmaral> huey23, you could generate one, but i think you don't need. the system - preferences - display don't help you?
[18:17] <melow01> llutz, thanks but won't that install the whole package for me?
[18:17] <g0th> It works with my old kernel (I compiled it myself)
[18:17] <llutz> melow01: -s = simulate
[18:17] <Myrtti> melow01: aptitude show <package> tells you the size after it's being installed and the download size too
[18:17] <melow01> llutz, ahhh... ok
[18:17] <g0th> I think I am missing some module/sthg in the kernel
[18:18] <peruna1> Sound disappeared in Janty and I/we don't know why
[18:18] <melow01> Myrtti, cool
[18:18] <Myrtti> melow01: oh, sorry, only the uncompressed size
[18:18] <huey23> EliasAmaral: it might...gotta log out and back in...brb
[18:19] <Sirisian|Work_> where is the cronjob file located in ubuntu?
[18:19] <peruna1> About that sound...
[18:19] <llutz> Sirisian|Work_: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[18:19] <fabiosl> does anyone has trouble with Rhythmbox + Flash Player on Firefox? (Sound Issues)
[18:21] <Sirisian|Work_> llutz, ah thanks.
[18:21] <huey23> EliasAmaral: it helped...thanks!
[18:21] <EliasAmaral> ^^
[18:23] <g0th> peruna1: hmm?
[18:23] <Hohoo> peruna1: Hello
[18:24] <peruna1> Hohoo: hello
[18:25] <g0th> how can I find the current kernel configuration?
[18:25] <Hohoo> peruna1 is having some sound problems with Jaunty. I'm unable to help...
[18:25] <dimitris> hello folks...
[18:25] <dimitris> can anyone help me with a little problem?
[18:25] <eon_> HI!
[18:26] <eon_> how do i register to freenode?
[18:26] <troy_> help me :D
[18:26] <dimitris> i am trying to play this stream....mms://sentrafm.live24.gr/sentrafm   but i cant with anyone player...any ideas?
[18:26] <Myrtti> !register > eon_
[18:26] <Italian_Plumber> is there a channel for discussion of using Ubuntu exclusively through the Live CD?
[18:26] <sipior> g0th: have a look at the config-* files in /boot.
[18:26] <troy_> Do you have someone who can help me someone who ?
[18:27] <Myrtti> !ask | troy_
[18:27] <firevamp1re>   '/msh NickServ help'
[18:27] <troy_> Turkish characters problem I'm having
[18:27] <metrix> I want to execute the filebrowser from the command line. what is it's command line name?
[18:27] <Myrtti> metrix: if you're using Gnome and plain Ubuntu, nautilus
[18:27] <calrik> whats the fastest wow to copy to files from one ubuntu comp to another across the network?
[18:27] <metrix> cool
[18:27] <metrix> thank you!
[18:28] <calrik> I have tried using the connect to server method but it seems slow
[18:28] <llutz> calrik: rsync
[18:28] <calrik> wired connection also
[18:28] <lekefly> Could someone point me to a VNC server other than x11vnc.. ?
[18:28] <calrik> llutz: thanks I will give it a go
[18:28] <Myrtti> calrik: I'd say rsync as well
[18:29] <llutz> calrik: tar+nc  might be faster, idk
[18:29] <troy_> Myrtti : Turkish characters problem I'm having
[18:29] <troy_> writing comes smoothly
[18:30] <troy_> but when I upload the server shows corrupt
[18:30] <Myrtti> troy_: where, on IRC?
[18:30] <troy_> no
[18:30] <troy_> website
[18:31] <Myrtti> troy_: you're coding the website or just writing to a form?
[18:31] <ima> what's the best (file/codec compatibility) video player?
[18:31] <Matson> reading through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and links, looking at vendors for Ubuntu laptops...  Has there every been discussion or motion from Canonical to brand and sell laptops with Ubuntu?
[18:33] <g0th> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c7f052648567db60e3ca7a5f99c261b9fcb8c678
[18:33] <troy_> I am using qphpedit program
[18:33] <g0th> That is the result of the test
[18:33] <lekefly> Could someone point me to a VNC server other than x11vnc.. ?
[18:33] <g0th> if I load the module snd-hda-intel with the options: model=3stack-dig enable_msi=1 single_cmd=1, I get: http://pastebin.com/m3f83e64a
[18:33] <troy_> program properly comes
[18:33] <g0th> any idea why I don't have anything in /dev/snd/?
[18:33] <g0th> Could this be related to udev or something like that?
[18:33] <SPhcT> can somone help me with webcam drivers..
[18:34] <Myrtti> troy_: qphpedit or gphpedit?
[18:34] <llutz> lekefly: apt-cache search vnc server
[18:34] <troy_> sorry. gphpedit
[18:34] <troy_> habişts :D
[18:34] <lekefly> llutz ?
[18:34] <troy_> habits :D
[18:34] <mallory> hi everyone. i am new to linux and to irc. i just put UNR on my netbook.
[18:35] <Myrtti> troy_: have you set the charset of the document correctly? Ubuntu uses UTF8 by default
[18:35] <g0th> anyone?
[18:35] <troy_> iso-8859-9+
[18:35] <g0th> I guess I have to go back to my own kernel 2.6.27
[18:35] <g0th> but it is messung up my whole system :(
[18:36] <troy_> Well how do I change the character set ubuntu
[18:36] <Myrtti> troy_: try changing that to UTF-8 and check if it still is a problem.
[18:36] <g0th> I have no more time, bye
[18:36] <Pelo> do we know an app that will tell what app is using how much internet traffic ?
[18:36] <llutz> lekefly: type that command into terminal and look at output. pick what you like
[18:36] <troy_> Well how do I change the character set ubuntu?
[18:36] <Myrtti> troy_: trust me, it's easier and faster for you to change the charset in that one document, than to change the charset of your ubuntu.
[18:37] <Pelo> troy_, right click the desktop ,   chanage background,   last tab I beleive
[18:37] <jpds> Pelo: Visual effects, woo.
[18:37] <Pelo> troy_, forget what I said, I thoguht you meant change the font in ubuntu
[18:37] <Pelo> jpds, one before last then,   I made a mistake
[18:37] <ohir> troy_: ubuntu uses utf, utf supports all known languages and glyphs
[18:38] <harjot__> how would i restart my microphone driver
[18:38] <harjot__> its built in
[18:38] <troy_> hm
[18:38] <ohir> troy_ just some rare languges need additional fonts
[18:38] <troy_> ok
[18:38] <troy_> thanks
[18:38] <troy_> Thank you for your help your
[18:38] <Pelo> troy_, you can add support for other languaged from the localisation applet,  that would probably take care of your problem
[18:38] <calrik> rsync how do you specify the remote source?
[18:39] <troy_> best of this document should I change my character :)
[18:39] <harjot__> how would i restart my microphone?
[18:39] <llutz> calrik: default answer: man rsync
[18:39] <Pelo> harjot__, reload the module ?
[18:39] <zilkomaa> ..
[18:39] <harjot__> i dont know which one it is
[18:39] <SPhcT> can somone help me with webcam drivers.. i need install them right
[18:39] <harjot__> it would be easier to restart the ssound system?
[18:40] <Pelo> calrik, this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[18:40] <jellow> harjot__: sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[18:40] <troy_> pelo problem is not Turkish, I am doing with php gphpedit program I am running a website. Characters as iso-8859-9 I have been trying to tell him.
[18:40] <harjot__> ok
[18:40] <jellow> harjot__: thats no specific to your microphone though
[18:40] <calrik> Pelo: yer Im reading that do I have to mount the network share?
[18:40] <Pelo> troy_, ok, not quite my feild then
[18:40]  * LAntia je re
[18:41] <harjot__> what could hwelp me for my mic then?
[18:41] <calrik> Pelo: in order to mount the network share does that mean I have to install NFS?
[18:41] <llutz> calrik: no, just use ssh
[18:41] <Pelo> calrik, nfs or samba , those are the usual
[18:41] <Pelo> calrik, ssh will work to
[18:41] <calrik> ok sweet I get ssh install I will use that
[18:41] <llutz> calrik: rsync -aux / user@host:/mnt/new/
[18:42] <Pelo> calrik, if you do ssh you'll probably have to setup some key if you want to automate rsync
[18:42] <Myrtti> troy_: if the document is set as UTF8, and you see the characters wrong, then the problem is in your browser
[18:42] <Myrtti> oh well.
[18:43] <peruna1> =-O Got rid of pulseaudio
[18:43] <peruna1> what now
[18:43] <Pelo> calrik, thanks for reminding me I need to edit my rsync line in cron,  I jsut changed my router , got different ip now
[18:43] <zahir> hi, my printer canon iP1700 does't want running to ubuntu 9.10,
[18:44] <jojje> Someone has any ideas why internet TCP transfers via WIFI is at 250 Kbit, while iperf on the LAN show throuput at 11Mbit and UDP at 33Mbit? Connecting via cat-cable yields download form internet at 100MBit.
[18:45] <kubanc> does the latest opera work in ubuntu 8.04?
[18:45] <sirMajid> hi, I need a ftp client with a gui to transfer files through a server. who knows one?
[18:45] <jellow> sirMajid: filezilla
[18:45] <llutz> sirMajid: filezilla, nautilus
[18:45] <vishesh> FileZilla is nice FTP Client
[18:45] <kubanc> sirMajid, filezilla
[18:45] <Pelo> SirDidi, open up the software library at the bottom of the application menu and do a serch for ftp
[18:46] <sirMajid> llutz, does nautilus do it? how?
[18:46] <SirDidi> Pelo, o.O
[18:46] <Pelo> SirDidi, sorry, nick complete
[18:46] <llutz> sirMajid: ftp://user@host   into addressfield
[18:46] <SirDidi> ah np :)
[18:47] <Italian_Plumber> wow... where do you get 100 MBit internet speed?
[18:47] <pdg1> Italian_Plumber, next door to the ISP
[18:47] <sirMajid> llutz, tnx
[18:47] <Italian_Plumber> lucky bastard. :)  I have to settle for 6. :)
[18:48] <SPhcT> Can somone help me with installing webcam drivers for ubuntu 9.10
[18:48] <daftykins> !ask | SPhcT
[18:49] <pdg1> quick question. the command to remove a directory is rmvdir , right?
[18:49] <Myrtti> pdg1: wrong, it's rmdir
[18:49] <ben_> downloaded gdm, how do you intstall downloads on ubuntu
[18:49] <SPhcT> i dont have question i need help
[18:50] <pdg1> Myrtti, thanks :P it's been a while since i've had to delete anything via term
[18:50] <_Tristan> I have two ubuntu 9.10 partitions. On one of them, gtk is broken. It works on the other. Which folders/files should I copy over from the functional partition?
[18:51] <SPhcT> daftykins, i dont have question im half way so now i need people who can help..
[18:51] <ben_> i'm new to linux
[18:51] <daftykins> SPhcT: ask again with more detail
[18:52] <_Tristan> I repeat, what folders are all the good gtk's in?
[18:52] <calrik> omg rsync is alot faster :)
[18:52] <calrik> thanks
[18:53] <Pici> ben_: If you installed Ubuntu, then gdm is already installed.  What are you trying to do?
[18:53] <SPhcT> i think that i have drivers for my webcam but there is only source code and i need finish it i dont now how to do all that comands and how to put ewerthing together... my webcam is buld in laptop screen
[18:53] <ben_> change the slpash screen
[18:53] <Pici> SPhcT: there should be a README or INSTALL File that came with that code, read that first.
[18:54] <SPhcT> pici readmi is bad for me
[18:54] <Pici> ben_: The splash screen or the login screen?
[18:54] <Pici> SPhcT: What?
[18:54] <ben_> splash
[18:54] <SPhcT> Pici, it is hard to understand because i never did anything like that
[18:54] <Dravekx> when I try to delete a user, I get this: userdel: cannot lock /etc/gshadow; try again later.
[18:54] <Dravekx> why?
[18:54] <ysmn2> what is the keybord command for system monitor?
[18:55] <SPhcT> i can give adress where u can get files and see ur self readme and say me what to do..
[18:55] <webbb82> ok i want to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu , i already shrunk my windows partition in half , now i have 250 gb of unalocated hard drive space, but when i put the install cd in and get to the partition section i dont get any option to install to unused diskspace, how do i install it to the unalocated space????
[18:55] <Pici> ben_: It looks like someone suggested installing gnome-splashscreen-manager, did you try to use the software-center to install that?
[18:55] <webbb82> i just remembered i have ubuntu install via wubi would that cause it to do that
[18:55] <SPhcT> Pici, i can give adress where u can get files and see ur self readme and say me what to do..
[18:55] <mezquitale> anyone here encrypts their hard drive?  I want to encrypt my secondary hard drive and am wondering how much of a performance hit I would get on a laptop, I have a Pentium M with 2 gigs ofmemory.
[18:55] <Pici> webbb82: Yes. Wubi installs Ubuntu to a file inside your windows partition.
[18:55] <Jason1> Does anyone know-  is there a open source media player, that supports changing between multiple playlists?
[18:56] <hwilde> mezquitale, its only a hit when reading and writing :)  it mostly does it in the bg
[18:56] <ben_> ok misunderstood from earlier
[18:56] <Pici> !paste | SPhcT
[18:56] <piero> Hi! I have a doubt before post my code on sourceforge.net. Can a third party just download my code and register a legal patent as the owner? So, this way.. I can lose the rights (including the right to use) of the program?
[18:56] <Jason1> Mezquitale-  I use truecrypt-  very little noticable performance hit that I can tell.
[18:56] <Pici> !ot | piero
[18:56] <_Tristan> Hello. I have two partitions of the same distro on my computer. On one gtk can't find any engines, on the other it can. I want to solve this by copying over files/folders from the good partition. What should I copy over?
[18:57] <mezquitale> hwilde, in karmic it's possible to have "/home" encrypted in its own partition and then just have "/" in another partition so that appz will run fast, right?
[18:57] <hwilde> mezquitale, yes I believe you encrypt any partition you want
[18:58] <mezquitale> piero, you can talk about that in the #offtopic-channel or you can ask again and hopefully someone that knows the answer will reply, if you see no reply try at another time
[18:58] <webbb82> when i goto install ubuntu to the unallocated space it says i cant because i already have too many main partitions but the only ones i have are the windows 7 one and the backup partition can anyone please help a noob?
[18:59] <mezquitale> _Tristan, so you basically want to copy your config from the hard partition that is working fine to the partition that is having issues??
[18:59] <_Tristan> mezquitale: not just the config, but everything gtk-related (just the config didn't work)
[18:59] <panfist_> i installed ubuntu on a machine, which initially didn't work, I had to re-install grub on the boot drive. I then removed the cd drive physically from the host, and now all I see is "GRUB _", indefinitely, upon rebooting
[18:59] <K350> !flash
[19:00] <Jason1> linux media players that support switching between multiple playlists-  anyone know? windows refugee here- srry if stupid question.
[19:00] <mezquitale> webbb82, most likely you have more than one primary partition due to windows 7 install, use paste bin WARNING: use paste bin or you will be booted, use paste bin and show us the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[19:00] <hwilde> Jason1, totem, rhythmbox, vlc, all have playlists
[19:00] <webbb82> im running windows 7 at the moment
[19:01] <webbb82> if i del the hp recovery partition would that fix it.,  i dont need it because i got the cd from the factory to restore so
[19:01] <Jason1> Thanks hwilde
[19:01] <mezquitale> _Tristan, it's not as easy as you make it sound, if you wanted an actual copy you could use gparted to make an exact copy of your partition and copy it to your other partition, what youre attempting to do is not reasonable, youre trying to perform a magic trick
[19:01] <blakkheim> Jason1: mpd , ncmpcpp
[19:01] <SPhcT> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu.com/369039/
[19:02] <pdg1> is there any way to auto add a filesystem to fstab?
[19:02] <blakkheim> pdg1: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[19:02] <_Tristan> mezquitale: well, the other option is to reinstall ubuntu
[19:03] <Jason1> thanks blakkheim.
[19:03] <mezquitale> webbb82, your problem is that you have about 4 extended partitions.  Yes, deleting the backup partition could help, it all depends on the location of the backup partition.  What you want to do is delete a partition, then free up some space on your hard drive, then create an extended partition
[19:03] <Pici> SPhcT: That is what the readme file looks like?
[19:03] <hwilde> _Tristan, what do u want to do?  sorry I missed the original
[19:03] <djtuxy> Hello
[19:03] <mezquitale> webbb82, my apologies, i wanted to say your problem is that you ahve more than 4 PRIMARY partitions
[19:03] <pdg1> blackkheim, that only opens it in a different editor. I'm looking to do the not so very manual way. if there is such a thing
[19:03] <SPhcT> Pici, no thats are likts to files what i have
[19:04] <webbb82> mezquitale: i did that last night i shrank my main partition in half so i now have 250 gb of unalocated disk space
[19:04] <Jason1> I'm trying to configure a remote,  to switch between playlists-  kinda like channels on a TV.  any thoughts on the best media player to start with?
[19:04] <pdg1> blakkheim, , that only opens it in a different editor. I'm looking to do the not so very manual way. if there is such a thing
[19:04] <blip-> hi, I just upgraded to xubuntu 9.10.   When I have xfce4-power-manager running, it makes the laptop brightness go up and down in steps of 2..... such that I only have 3 brightness settings.     If I kill the xfce power manager then the brightness controls are back to normal (but of course no OSD).   any ideas why this happens ?    gnome-power-manager doesn't have this problem
[19:04] <_Tristan> hwilde: I want to copy everything gtk-related from one partition to another because gtk can't find its engines on this partition
[19:04] <blakkheim> pdg1: it would be good to learn how to add things to it
[19:04] <mezquitale> webbb82, now create an extended partition and allocate the 250 gigs to the extended partition
[19:04] <SPhcT> Pici, so you can get them and see readme and all other stuff what is there
[19:05] <webbb82> i cant it says i already have 4 primary partitions
[19:05] <webbb82> the hp recovery partition is set as primary
[19:05] <SPhcT> Pici, i just paste 1st file readme begining because it asks to downloud sonthing..
[19:05] <djtuxy> i have a problem :S i want to know  if UNR supports rtl8187 because i want to install UNR but i don't have acces to internet by adsl
[19:06] <nytek_> djtuxy: what kind of netbook do you have?
[19:06] <djtuxy> an msi wind
[19:06] <pdg1> blakkheim, alright... I suppose I am looking for a lazy mans route. I know I've done it a few times before, I just find it a pain in the but everytime I install a new system and end up having to edit fstab for each machine
[19:06] <mezquitale> webbb82, that is OK, you can have up to 4 primary partitions but youre not allowed to have more partitions after that, you can have 3 primary partitions and an extended partition, the extended partition should allow you to create more than 4 partitions
[19:06] <djtuxy> msi u100
[19:06] <nytek_> djtuxy: you should consider just regular desktop 9.10
[19:06] <nytek_> djtuxy: it runs beautiful on my netbook
[19:07] <webbb82> so should i just del the hp_tools partition and recovery D: partition?
[19:07] <Jason1> thanks for leads guys-  have a great day.
[19:07] <nytek_> webbb82: do you have to?
[19:07] <webbb82> no but i dunno what els todo
[19:07] <hwilde> webbb82, you should stop immediately and make a complete image of your harddrive before you go any further.
[19:07] <Pelo> webbb82, do not delete the recovery partitons unless you never ever ever intend to restore your system to it's factory settngs
[19:07] <djtuxy> nytek_ yes i have it but, i cant install my wireless adapter because i have to do an update of the drivers and i can't connect by adsl :S
[19:07] <mezquitale> webbb82, i cant say unless i knew what your hard drive looked it, apparently running "sudo fdisk -l" would show us how you have your hard drive partitioned, use paste bin
[19:08] <nytek_> webbb82: it doesnt matter if you have them or not, because most os's have all the drivers anyways. especially the ones you need
[19:08] <webbb82> i got the recovery cd from the factory so no matter what i can reinstall windows 7
[19:08] <Pici> SPhcT: So what step are you stuck on?
[19:08] <ben_> thanx got it done
[19:08] <nytek_> djtuxy: can you get to a eth port?
[19:08] <manueljordison__> hi
[19:08] <SPhcT> Pici, i have both rars extracted in download folder
[19:09] <mezquitale> hwilde, he doesnt need an image of the hard drive, all he needs to do is first allocate space and then create an extended partition on the allocated space
[19:09] <djtuxy> nytek_ i cant.. i only have wifi =S
[19:09] <webbb82> how do i create a extended partition
[19:10] <mezquitale> i already told you
[19:10] <hwilde> mezquitale, he needs to backup his harddrive ASAP.
[19:10] <hwilde> he doesn't know what he's doing and he's about to break stuff
[19:10] <Pici> SPhcT: while inside the gspcav2 folder, cp *.c *.h Makefile Kconfig   into the other extracted folder.
[19:10] <hwilde> mitigate the worst case scenario
[19:11] <jtholmes> broadcom wireless card bcm4318 chip can scan, driver b43-fwcutter loads and all iwlist wlan2 scan returns 4 routers but card will not pull a dhcp address any ideas?
[19:11] <djtuxy> nytek_ because i'm not in my network of wifi.. is a free network here , so i'm not near the router
[19:11] <mezquitale> hwilde, only his data, has has recovery CD's from the manufacturer, those recovery CD's allow you to install the operating system along with software applications and drivers that are bundled with the system he bought
[19:11] <webbb82> i have the recovery cds from the factory so if all els fails i can get it back
[19:11] <SPhcT> Pici, how to put it in other folder?
[19:11] <quarkup> hey. anyone putadas do Movimento Humanismo e Democracia (Maria do Rosário Carneiro e Teresa Venda) votaram a favor e três deputados do PSD abstiveram-se.using celestia + addons?
[19:11] <quarkup> omg
[19:11] <hwilde> webbb82, mezquitale,  make a backup.
[19:11] <quarkup> sorry
[19:12] <quarkup> wrong copy paste
[19:12] <quarkup> anyone is there using celestia + addons ?
[19:12] <Pici> SPhcT: Do you know how to use the terminal?
[19:12] <mezquitale> LoL
[19:12] <webbb82> i have a backup on my external hard drive
[19:12] <mezquitale> !anyone | quarkup
[19:12] <SPhcT> Pici, im new user..
[19:12] <hwilde> Pici, any idea why talk doesn't work anymore?  Error on read for talk daemon connection refused etc
[19:13] <SPhcT> Pici, i now sothing but not much..
[19:13] <djtuxy> nytek_ are you there?
[19:13] <llcoolhodge> i am new to ubuntu
[19:13] <Pici> hwilde: You need talkd installed.
[19:13] <quarkup> I want to know if it is possible to use celestia + the educational addons under linux
[19:13] <llcoolhodge> and my audio stopped working
[19:13] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Welcome
[19:13] <llcoolhodge> thanks iwolf
[19:13] <quarkup> if anyone has tweaked those addons or something.
[19:13] <hwilde> Pici, I did that
[19:13] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: I remember I solved some bugs about this
[19:14] <webbb82> if i right click on the unallocated disk space it says create new simple volume, is that the same
[19:14] <Pici> SPhcT: Do you know where the other folder is located?
[19:14] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: I'll dig them up
[19:14] <hwilde> Pici, it doesn't seem to run the talk daemon
[19:14] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Please hold :)
[19:14] <llcoolhodge> thanks iwolf
[19:14] <Pici> hwilde: I'm not sure then, I havent used talk in ages.
[19:14] <llcoolhodge> i can hold
[19:14] <SPhcT> Pici, yes almoust same dir
[19:14] <christof> hello
[19:15] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Found one
[19:15] <SetiAmon> hey how everyone
[19:15] <christof> i need some help
[19:15] <christof> i have 2 pc's running karmic.need some help to configure networking.anyone can please help?
[19:15] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: 9.10?
[19:15] <llcoolhodge> yesh iwolf
[19:15] <Pici> SPhcT: While you are inside the gspcav2 dir, you need to run cp *.c *.h Makefile Kconfig /path/to/the/other/dir    I can't know where that is on your computer.
[19:15] <SetiAmon> hey is there anyway to EASILY recover deleted files,like a program you would have for windows,but linux of course.or is it all archiac command line programs
[19:15] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Open a terminal
[19:15] <quarkup> i want celestia addons working under linux. how is that possible ?
[19:15] <llcoolhodge> to be honest
[19:16] <webbb82> ok im at the extended volume wizard that should make the unallocated volume a partition for installing ubuntu onto?
[19:16] <llcoolhodge> i dont knw anything
[19:16] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Ok
[19:16] <SetiAmon> basically I am looking for a Graphical file recovery tool for linux
[19:16] <bullgard4> Karmic does not produce X on my tty7. After 'sudo service gdm stop' and 'sudo service gdm start' and allowing ubuntu-client-applet access to keyring I have a black screen. No keyboard echos. But in the upper right: "detlef@T43:~$'followed by ablinking cursor. How to fix this?
[19:16] <quarkup> because some work others do not
[19:16] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Goto: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[19:16] <llcoolhodge> what is a terminal iwolf
[19:16] <llcoolhodge> got it
[19:16] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Then, type in the following: sudo update-grub
[19:16] <SPhcT> Pici, done
[19:16] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: After that, please reboot and see what happens
[19:16] <djtuxy> nytek_ well thanks man :) i'm going to install and then i'm going to see what can i do
[19:16] <Pici> SPhcT: Now cd into the directory
[19:17] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: If it STILL does not work, please PM me or ask again
[19:17] <zig_> Will Linux/Ubuntu have a ReadyBoost equivelant any time soon?
[19:17] <christof> i want to share my internet connection between two ubuntu pc's.both got karmic and one of them has 2 network cards.can anyone help with the config?please
[19:17] <Pici> SPhcT: run sudo apt-get install build-essential    and then    make
[19:17] <llutz> !ics > christof
[19:18] <SPhcT> Pici, make says no targets. stop
[19:18] <zig_> I've been reading some articles on readyboost, and it is clear to me that none of them are on the right track. mkswap <thumbdrive> && swapon <thumbdrive> is _not_ ReadyBoost-equivelant
[19:18] <mezquitale> christof, i would use a router, it's easier plus the fact that some ISP's dont like you using ICS, they would rather you use a router
[19:18] <Pici> SPhcT: I don't know then, that is what thos instructions say to do.
[19:18] <christof> yeah,cant afford one this month
[19:18] <zig_> Additionally, most the articles that I read direct one to set the priority to the max, which also doesn't make sense to me. It would make more sense to set the swap files as the same priority to effect striping... maybe. But using a thumbdrive as swap is _not_ fast
[19:19] <christof> my bro (2nd pc) just switched to ubuntu
[19:19] <zig_> It has significantly slower throughput than a HDD. It's only useful for filecache
[19:19] <llutz> mezquitale: where do you see a difference from ISP-view between using ICS and using a router?
[19:19] <christof> before i was using his pc as a gateway(internet from his PC--win7)
[19:19] <zig_> That's what ReadyBoost is. It just uses your thumbdrive as a filecache _only_ for small files
[19:19] <christof> is it possible to do same i ubuntu?
[19:19] <zig_> Anyway. I was wondering if Linux will have something like this anytime soon.
[19:19] <llutz> mezquitale: if they don't allow ics, they don't allow router-usage too
[19:20] <SPhcT> Pici, make in directory where i copy  files?
[19:20] <axisys> why does the sound come from external speaker and the plugg'd in mic ? shouldn't the external speaker muted automatically as soon as I plug my headphones ?
[19:20] <Pici> SPhcT: wait, maybe I misread.
[19:20] <mezquitale> llutz, that was a bit ago actually but my ISP warned me about using ICS and they sent me a letter stating for me to get a router, never had a problem since
[19:20] <Pici> SPhcT: Please re-extract both tar.gzs and lets start over
[19:20] <llcoolhodge> iwolf
[19:20] <iWolf> Yes?
[19:20] <llcoolhodge> not shit happened
[19:21] <iWolf> You must reboot
[19:21] <mezquitale> llutz, i used to use internter connection sharing from windows back then though
[19:21] <llcoolhodge> i did reboot
[19:21] <iWolf> Alright, please hold
[19:21] <llcoolhodge> by reboot u mean restart right
[19:21] <SPhcT> Pici, done
[19:21] <llutz> mezquitale: don't know what win-ics does, but basically it's NAT like a router does
[19:21] <wasutton3> is there a way to log if a computer can access the internet or not?
[19:21] <KaffeeJunky123> I need help, my right alt key is supposed to be lvl3 modifier, but when I use my media keys it stops working and I have to reload the keyboard layout to get it to work again, i'm using a g15 on ubuntu 9.04
[19:21] <mezquitale> anyone here has done any encryption on their hard drive?  I want to encrypt a secondary hard drive on my laptop
[19:21] <orudie> hi, is anyone here familiar with OpenEMM ?
[19:22] <Pici> SPhcT: from gspcav2/ cp *.c *.h Makefile Kconfig into /path/to/other/dir/linux/drivers/media/video/gspca/
[19:23] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Reboot is restart
[19:23] <llcoolhodge> yea i did that shit already
[19:23] <Pici> llcoolhodge: Please mind your language here.
[19:23] <llcoolhodge> oh noes
[19:23] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Try and use the forums as a research tool (http://ubuntuforums.org)
[19:24] <iWolf> Or check the existing bug reports
[19:24] <llcoolhodge> i did that crap already i dont know anything about computers
[19:24] <llcoolhodge> is crap ok Pici
[19:24] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Did you check the forum
[19:24] <llutz> wasutton3: add a cronjob, ping -c1 somesite.com || logger  "I am offline"
[19:24] <llcoolhodge> yea i did
[19:24] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Search "No Sound"
[19:24] <llcoolhodge> ok will do thanks again
[19:24] <llcoolhodge> fuck i hate computers
[19:24] <maco> !language| llcoolhodge
[19:25] <iWolf> It will ask you a question below the query
[19:25] <emghazal> My HP laptop has some extra buttons (mute, volume up/down, play/pause, stop, wireless on/off, etc), they can be changed from System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts (they have names like "XF86AudioMute"). But I can't change the wireless on/off button (it turns bluetooth on/off instead of wifi). When I click a command in Keyboard Shortcuts then press that button, it doesn't get recorded, but all other buttons do. Any ideas?
[19:25] <iWolf> Answer it, then hit enter
[19:25] <Aethelred> llcoolhodge: is that a question?
[19:25] <wasutton3> llutz, does that create a timestamp with that?
[19:25] <llcoolhodge> is what a question
[19:25] <maco> llcoolhodge: it is quite possible you have hit a driver bug and simply need to file a bug and wait for it to be fixed
[19:25] <iWolf> maco: No
[19:25] <SPhcT> Pici, done
[19:25] <iWolf> maco: It's happened with SEVERAL other people
[19:25] <llutz> wasutton3: yes
[19:26] <llcoolhodge> it was working fine
[19:26] <iWolf> maco: I'm sure it would come up with a driver suggestion
[19:26] <maco> llcoolhodge: ok i missed the start of this. what happened?
[19:26] <llcoolhodge> and then i tried to watch some pron too and it cutout everything and i restarted the computer
[19:26] <Pici> SPhcT: now cd back into the gdspca-randomletters folder
[19:26] <iWolf> maco: No sound
[19:26] <maco> iWolf: that is meaningless
[19:26] <SPhcT> Pici, done
[19:26] <Pici> SPhcT: run make
[19:27] <maco> iWolf: could be muted, could be broken driver, could be the sound device hogged by another application
[19:27] <iWolf> maco: I'm sure it would alert you about a broken driver
[19:27] <SPhcT> Pici, works
[19:27] <llcoolhodge> the sound device at the time was hogged by another maco
[19:27] <maco> iWolf: just searching for "no sound" will get you 50-billion suggestions on ways to fix it and maybe one of them might work
[19:27] <Manii> Hi, is there a way to make a properly working session with gnome-shell?
[19:27] <llcoolhodge> i tried watching porn aswell as listening to Cher's believe
[19:27] <hwilde> !ot
[19:27] <maco> iWolf: since the driver issue would be specific to your motherboard and sound chip combination... not really
[19:28] <lekefly> Where do i setup thing to start at startup?
[19:28] <llcoolhodge> ny computer is sound
[19:28] <maco> llcoolhodge: keep it family friendly. ie. no porn
[19:28] <jrib> !startup | llcoolhodge
[19:28] <jrib> lekefly: sorry, that was for you above
[19:28] <lekefly> Thanks jrib
[19:28] <SPhcT> Pici, need some time still working...
[19:28] <llcoolhodge> u wanted to know what happened
[19:28] <llcoolhodge> so i told u
[19:28] <llcoolhodge> exactly
[19:28] <maco> llcoolhodge: cant you just say "a video"?
[19:28] <nefarious1> how's the new  gamers edition
[19:29] <maco> llcoolhodge: ok so you had a video program and a music player open?
[19:29] <llcoolhodge> this is 2010 i saw a 7 year old smoking a cigarette swearing at his mother
[19:29] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: What computer model are you using
[19:29] <hwilde> !ops
[19:29] <llcoolhodge> yes
[19:29] <llcoolhodge> and no
[19:29] <llcoolhodge> i had music player open
[19:29] <llcoolhodge> and internet
[19:29] <FloodBot2> llcoolhodge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:29] <llcoolhodge> i dont download those videos
[19:29] <llcoolhodge> i stream them
[19:29] <llutz> llcoolhodge: that's real-live, not IRC :)
[19:29] <maco> llcoolhodge: so flash and... what? banshee? rhythmbox? amarok?
[19:29] <llcoolhodge> rythembox
[19:30] <hwilde> llcoolhodge, did you reboot?
[19:30] <llcoolhodge> and sorry for the flooding or whatever
[19:30] <llcoolhodge> yesh i rebooted
[19:30] <hwilde> llcoolhodge, did your sound work after reboot
[19:30] <llcoolhodge> nope
[19:30] <iWolf> hwilde: No
[19:30] <hwilde> llcoolhodge, your speakers are broken, try headphones
[19:30] <Tex_D> anyone know how to convert .STJ in .avi file?
[19:30] <mculp> anyone point me in the direction of getting my laptop to work in clamshell mode? google'd to no avail
[19:30] <llcoolhodge> my speakers are a 600 dollar soundsytem
[19:30] <llcoolhodge> sound system
[19:31] <SPhcT> Pici, done
[19:31] <llcoolhodge> they are not broken
[19:31] <hwilde> mculp, what is clamshell
[19:31] <Fishscene> coolhodge: A bot automatically responded to the flood. To avoid future complications, try typing as much as you can into one text line.
[19:31] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: drivers then
[19:31] <maco> llcoolhodge: did you hear the login sound at boot?
[19:31] <SPhcT> pici get some erors
[19:31] <llcoolhodge> no login sound
[19:31] <maco> iWolf: if it worked before the drivers are fine
[19:31] <Pici> SPhcT: Can you pastebin them?
[19:31] <maco> llcoolhodge: unless.... did you by any chance just upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 ?
[19:31] <iWolf> maco: Didn't catch that
[19:31] <llcoolhodge> no
[19:31] <mculp> hwilde: laptop closed, external monitor on - but I just got it to work, thanks anyway
[19:31] <gholms> Anyone know who manages Ubuntu's EC2 images?
[19:31] <maco> llcoolhodge: ok
[19:31] <llcoolhodge> i hear the sound trying to work
[19:31] <llcoolhodge> it keeps making muffled scrackles
[19:31] <maco> llcoolhodge: and youve checked the mixer?
[19:32] <lekefly> jrib: thing is i wanna add ddclient to startup.. but doesnt seem like its there?
[19:32] <llcoolhodge> what is a mixer
[19:32] <maco> you didnt blow the speakers out, did you?
[19:32] <hwilde> mculp, its under power management
[19:32] <llcoolhodge> i play xbawks
[19:32] <pachu> UGLY
[19:32] <maco> llcoolhodge: the thing with lots of sliders to change all the different volumes
[19:32] <jrib> lekefly: if you intall ddclient from the repositories, it will automatically be added to startup iirc
[19:32] <SPhcT> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu.com/369055/
[19:32] <mculp> yeah just found it hwilde :) thx!
[19:32] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: External sound system?
[19:32] <llcoolhodge> no i cant have loud music i live in a military barracks
[19:32] <llcoolhodge> i will disturb others
[19:32] <llcoolhodge> external
[19:33] <pachu> eooooooooo
[19:33] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Try disconnecting the sound system, and let your built in speakers play
[19:33] <llcoolhodge> NOW I DONT HAVE A MOUSE
[19:34] <lekefly> jrib i installed it with sudo bla bla.. does that count? :P
[19:34] <llcoolhodge> iWolf i understand how to do most things i already troubleshot up to there
[19:34] <jrib> lekefly: depends on the bla bla
[19:34] <lekefly> jrib: sudo apt-get install ddclient
[19:34] <llcoolhodge> trust me first thing i did
[19:34] <jrib> lekefly: yes, that counts
[19:34] <lekefly> Woho
[19:34] <lekefly> Thanks
[19:34] <hipe> if i just did apt-get install ruby19  where did it go? 'tis not in my path
[19:34] <iWolf> maco: I'm out on this one
[19:34] <Danbo19> Hello, could anybody help me solve a problem? Update manager keeps giving me the error "failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net//ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found"
[19:35] <Pici> SPhcT: you'll need to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`  then run make again
[19:35] <emghazal> My HP laptop has some extra buttons (mute, volume up/down, play/pause, stop, wireless on/off, etc), they can be changed from System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts (they have names like "XF86AudioMute"). But I can't change the wireless on/off button (it turns bluetooth on/off instead of wifi). When I click an action in Keyboard Shortcuts then press the wireless button, it doesn't get recorded, but all other buttons do. Any ideas?
[19:35] <llcoolhodge>   hmm
[19:35] <llcoolhodge> well
[19:35] <llcoolhodge> that sucks
[19:35] <FloodBot2> llcoolhodge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <iWolf> (NOTICE) Can I have someone attend to llcoolhodge for me please (NOTICE)
[19:35] <llcoolhodge> i fixed it
[19:36] <iWolf> llcoolhodge: Congrats, what did you do?
[19:36] <llcoolhodge> i found the mixer
[19:36] <llcoolhodge> hahaha
[19:36] <llcoolhodge> i didnt kno where it was
[19:36] <danielinho> holaa
[19:37] <sebsebseb> !es | danielinho
[19:37] <SPhcT> Pici, alredy have all new... http://paste.ubuntu.com/369058/
[19:37] <maco> iWolf[Away]: so ll's issue was simply "i had it muted" alrighty
[19:38] <pachu> ugly
[19:39] <SPhcT> Pici, 2 lines befor i did this asmob@Asmob-PC:~/Downloads/gspca$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[19:39] <pachu> sierra re
[19:40] <Pici> SPhcT: I'm not sure.  sorry :(
[19:40] <SPhcT> Pici, mm ok thanks for your time..
[19:40] <manueljordison> anyone near Amherst??
[19:41] <pachu> tus mulas
[19:41] <mezquitale> !ot | manueljordison
[19:41] <pachu> hnfjfjmfj
[19:41] <manueljordison> alright
[19:42] <Pici> !es | pachu
[19:42] <razla> Hi! Since a week or so, when I turn my volume (alsa) up to 'loud-ish', the whole sound output starts to stutter. I really don't know where to look for errors or how to see what's going on (nothing relevant in dmesg), could anyone point me in the right direction? There is also some noise in the background when playing not so loud music... Using ubuntu-current (desktop) pretty much
[19:44] <Fishscene> razla: For noise in the background - it sounds like a grounding issue.
[19:44] <razla> Wow, after hours and hours of research I ask in the channel. And within 1 minute I find out what the problem is (front mic boost not muted). How stupid. Thanks anyway!
[19:44] <Fishscene> rofl.
[19:44] <razla> wish I'd have asked days ago ;)
[19:44] <bambam_> lucky you razla... I have not got my answers
[19:44] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all
[19:44] <Myrtti> razla: usual "go talk it out with a teddybear" problem.. :-)
[19:45]  * razla grins
[19:45] <_UsUrPeR_> I'm having a problem with VNC... I am trying to set up and access a remote vnc session, but I keep getting the following error: *** x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":0", it cannot continue.
[19:45] <christof> hello again
[19:45] <_UsUrPeR_> I am trying to do this through an ssh tunnel
[19:45] <Myrtti> razla: happens to us all
[19:45] <pachu> hello
[19:45] <christof> i have now configured 2 network cards,i am eth1 and my bro eth0.how do i conf other pc to get internet from me?
[19:46] <NET||abuse> anyone else here use wakoopa?
[19:46] <pachu> somebody of spain
[19:46] <bambam_> how do I get internet services working on ubuntu 9.10
[19:46] <bombel> (Ubuntu 9.10) Can someone help me solving my sound problem? When I launch a game, the sound seems to be ok, but suddenly I start to hear a crackling noise superpositioned with the supposed sound. Sometimes the crackling sound disappears and then comes back after some seconds. Depending on the game this game be better or worse.. What files do I need to show you, in order to let you know more about the my
[19:46] <razla> Myrtti: hehehe, yep! lucky me :)
[19:46] <bombel> configs?
[19:46] <pachu> hi
[19:46] <_UsUrPeR_> christof: check ipv4_forward (abbreviation, can't remember full name) in /etc/sysctl.conf. ensure it = 1
[19:47] <jack5463> I'm on ubuntu 9.10 usb, my firefox isn't responding. How do i close it?
[19:47] <sebsebseb> !es |  pachu
[19:47] <Slart> jack5463: open a terminal and run pkill firefox
[19:47] <orudie> can someone recommend a nice program for email campaigns / newsletters
[19:47] <bambam_> yeah
[19:47] <emghazal> My HP laptop has some extra buttons (mute, volume up/down, play/pause, stop, wireless on/off, etc), they can be changed from System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts (they have names like "XF86AudioMute"). But I can't change the wireless on/off button (it turns bluetooth on/off instead of wifi). When I click an action in Keyboard Shortcuts then press the wireless button, it doesn't get recorded, but all other buttons do. Any ideas?
[19:47] <Slart> jack5463: if it still doesn't close try "pkill -9 firefox"
[19:47] <bambam_> kill -9 pid of firefox
[19:47] <bombel> Btw, I have no problems with sound while listening to music or movies or anything else but games...
[19:47] <mezquitale> bombel, that sounds like a bug, you should seriously file a bug report in launchpad or search launchpad for a bug similar to yours
[19:47] <_UsUrPeR_> christof: after that, do the following as root: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE
[19:47] <jack5463> Slart, thanks
[19:47] <Slart> jack5463: you're welcome
[19:47] <NET||abuse> bombel, your problem is pulse audio
[19:48] <krysis> Does anyone know how to verify a package is installed via source?
[19:48] <bambam_> Slart; can you help on connectivity issues
[19:48] <mezquitale> bombel, the problem could be related to the game you use and a library, what game are you experiencing this issue with?
[19:48] <NET||abuse> bombel, i've hit that problem too, i wanted to play a little Glest, but it blows up after about 30 seconds of plyaing the music
[19:48] <Slart> bambam_: nope.. internet usually works out of the box for me
[19:48] <Na2Th> \h
[19:48] <bambam_> damnnn
[19:48] <christof> _UsUrPeR_>done that
[19:49] <christof> other pc cant connect to any network
[19:49] <bambam_> it never worked for me out of box
[19:49] <bombel> I tried many different games, from deb-games. All of them show the same problem
[19:49] <christof> is there anything i need to configure on it?
[19:49] <bambam_> especially with 9.x releases
[19:49] <bombel> Should I do something with this pulseaudio ?
[19:49] <panfist_> what do i do if the gnome display preferences window is missing resolution modes that i know my monitor supports?
[19:49] <_UsUrPeR_> christof: are they on the same subnet? are you providing DHCP? what is the gateway set for ETH0 on your "internal" client computer?
[19:49] <jrib> !fixres | panfist_
[19:50] <christof> _UsUrPeR_>how do i check that?sorry but i am new to networking
[19:50] <_UsUrPeR_> christof: also, on client computer, make sure resolv.conf reflects your proper dns server
[19:50] <googleit> can anyone help with alsa issues
[19:50] <christof> okay.if i give you remote access to my PC can you fix it?
[19:50] <googleit> cuz no on is on the alsa channel;
[19:50] <mezquitale> bombel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/345627?comments=all
[19:50] <_UsUrPeR_> christof: in /etc/network/interfaces, set "gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" where gateway = ETH1 on your server computer
[19:50] <_UsUrPeR_> ifdown, ifup eth0 on client computer
[19:50] <_UsUrPeR_> try again
[19:51] <mezquitale> bombel, you can also try removing pulse audio but that's going to open another tape of worms
[19:51] <_UsUrPeR_> ok, so nobody in here familiar with IP tunneling vnc/starting VNC server on a remote server?
[19:51]  * _UsUrPeR_ scans the room
[19:51] <krysis> anyone know how to verify if i installed a source correctly?
[19:51] <ikonia> _UsUrPeR_: why don't you ask the real question
[19:51] <ikonia> krysis: installed a source ?
[19:51] <krysis> installed from source*
[19:51] <krysis> libdrm
[19:51] <hipe> sorry to ask a noob q. but i'm gonna need some help learning how to help myself w/ my new vps acct and 'karmic'.  If i just did 'apt-get install ruby19' where did it go?
[19:51] <bombel> mezquitale, can i remove temporarily the pulseaudio, just for test purpose ?
[19:51] <krysis> and others
[19:51] <christof> its all set to dhcp on both pc.s
[19:51] <ikonia> krysis: if it built without error - it's built
[19:51] <mezquitale> usurper, sounds like your config is not correctly set up
[19:52] <ikonia> hipe: distributed across the file system, binaries in /bin, config /etc - lookup linux fhs for more info
[19:52] <mezquitale> bombel, nope, once it's uninstalled it's gone for good, you can reinstall it again though and alsa should still work but it'll do funky things if youre on a laptop
[19:52] <krysis> ikonia: ok thank you, im trying to install a intel driver from intellinuxgraphics.org but im running into difficulties
[19:52] <christof> _UsUrPeR_>i can give you remote access if you can fix this.please,id be thankfull for the rest of my life
[19:52] <ikonia> krysis: why ? what's wrong with the intel drive shipped by ubuntu for xorg ?
[19:52] <ikonia> christof: what's the problem?
[19:52] <bombel> is pulse audion actually needed? for what ?
[19:53] <Yaroze> anyone know how to enable TRIM on an intel ssd device with ub 9.10 and ext4 ?
[19:53] <_UsUrPeR_> christof: ? nono. it's alright. pastebin your /etc/networking/interfaces file from your client computer, along with an ifconfig from both client and server.
[19:53] <christof> i have 2 pc's running karmic.1 has 2 network cards and internet access.other one im trying to get to share internet with first
[19:53] <krysis> as compared with Sabayan linux, ubuntu driver doesn't render correctly, while using Nexuiz on Sabaya the graphics render correctly but lag (due to hardware limitations) but on ubuntu the driver doesnt render anything right, ceilings and floors missing, guns, characters, etc
[19:53] <ikonia> Yaroze: hdparm may work
[19:53] <krysis> ikonia: as compared with Sabayan linux, ubuntu driver doesn't render correctly, while using Nexuiz on Sabaya the graphics render correctly but lag (due to hardware limitations) but on ubuntu the driver doesnt render anything right, ceilings and floors missing, guns, characters, etc
[19:53] <usuario> arluque
[19:54] <mezquitale> bombel, it looks like my comment is not entirely correct, you can disable pulse audio although I have never tried it:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[19:54] <ikonia> krysis: how have you verified xorg is using the intel driver ?
[19:54] <_UsUrPeR_> ok, well I have installed X11vnc on the remote server I would like to connect to. I have access to the server via SSH, and I would like to start x11vnc server on the remote computer, and access a desktop session remotely.
[19:54] <hipe> ikonia: ah thanks.  that's where i thought it would go but it was not in my path after that install. apparently i needed 'ruby' too.  ;) got it thx
[19:54] <llutz> _UsUrPeR_:asuming vncserver runs at host:5901 "ssh -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901 -f -N -l user host"  "vncclient localhost:5901"
[19:54] <krysis> ikonia: the new one i compiled? im not sure how to verify this
[19:54] <_UsUrPeR_> llutz: lemme try that. thank you
[19:54] <ikonia> krysis: no - how do you know the driver that is not working as you expect is the intel one ?
[19:55] <ZykoticK9> bombel, don't know if it will work - but worth a try --- to disable Pulse for testing try using "pasuspender $NAME_OF_APPLICATION"
[19:55] <bombel> gonna try all that now
[19:55] <christof> _UsUrPeR_>the PC that got internet says im connected to both networks,but the other one isnt finding anything
[19:56] <krysis> intel just recently released public open source drivers, im quite certain ubuntu hasn't integrated them yet, so im trying to compile from scratch. whatever graphics im using with ubuntu isn't working right, if its not intel then im not sure how to install the ubuntu intel graphics if it hasn't been posted in the restricted hardware section ikonia
[19:56] <christof> auto lo
[19:56] <christof> iface lo inet loopback (/etc/network/interfaces)
[19:56] <_UsUrPeR_> christof: pastebin ifconfig of both your server, your client, and /etc/network/interfaces
[19:56] <_UsUrPeR_> don't put all that in here. it'll probably get you kicked...
[19:56] <_UsUrPeR_> christof: http://pastebin.com
[19:57] <christof> ty
[19:57] <ikonia> krysis: I'll ask again - how do you know you're using an "intel" driver (the one that's causing you a problem) the intel drivers ARE open source so they are already intergrated into ubuntu, and they won't show up in the restricted drivers tool because they are open source - not restricted
[19:57] <krysis> well I assume im not using them because the graphics aren't being generated correctly ikonia, and in past Ubuntu version i had to take my card out of Blacklist to use compiz
[19:58] <amirite> hey, I'm a total noob to ubuntu but not to linux -- how do I search available packages with apt-get?
[19:58] <jrib> !apt | amirite
[19:58] <christof> hmm,what is pastebin
[19:58] <llutz> amirite: apt-cache search
[19:58] <ikonia> krysis: not all intel cards are fully functional, but that said most should work fine. What video card do you actually have
[19:58] <hobokie> Hi - I download Ubuntu from here - (http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download) - When I finished installing I had over 200 updates to download and install - I would like know if there is a site I can go to that has the most current version ? ? ?
[19:58] <rotmor> hi, what does this sed command exactly do: http://pastebin.com/m12c26eae ?
[19:58] <amirite> thanks llutz
[19:58] <ikonia> hobokie: that is the most current version
[19:59] <krysis> ikonia: Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller   but if all intel graphics arent right then why does Sabayan linux work flawlessly with my card?
[19:59] <ikonia> krysis: maybe because you're not using the intel driver included in xorg, you're using one of the 3 that will work
[19:59] <hobokie> ikonia: So it's just install and do updates ?
[19:59] <actionparsnip> Yo yo yo
[19:59] <tennessean> hobokie: it basically does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for you as update-manager
[19:59] <ikonia> hobokie: yup
[19:59] <daftykins> rotmor: swaps the localhost IP 127.0.0.1 with nothing, then i'm not sure what the 'g' does.
[19:59] <Danbo19> Hello, I am trying to sync my ipod nano using itunes in virtualbox. I have sucsessfully set up windows in virtualbox, my question is: where do I put my music so I can access it in the virtual machine?
[19:59] <krysis> so how can i edit xorg in 9.10 as the xorg.conf is gone?
[20:00] <ikonia> krysis: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is gone, but you can put one there to hard code options, it's not there as it's supposed to be dynamic, but it doesn't always get it right
[20:00] <actionparsnip> Danbo19: the latest wine and latest itunes work together enough to transfer somgs
[20:00] <Trek> ikonia, is an op around in #ubuntu-ops at all?
[20:00] <llutz> rotmor: deletes all 127.0.0.1 from that file
[20:00] <jamesd_> Danbo19, you can setup a share in virtualbox or use samba on ubuntu
[20:00] <ikonia> Trek: sure, one moment
[20:00] <hobokie> ikonia: Ok - No biggie have very fast connection anyway - Just like life simple as possible :)
[20:00] <rotmor> llutz: thanks
[20:00] <Danbo19> really? I was unaware itunes works in wine now
[20:01] <Danbo19> that sound easier than virtualbox
[20:01] <rotmor> daftykins: thanks too
[20:01] <actionparsnip> Danbo: if you wanna use virtualbox to use itunes you should ask in ##windows as itunes isn't supported here
[20:01] <daftykins> rotmor: np :)
[20:01] <hobokie> ikonia: By the way Thank You
[20:01] <panfist_> is it possible to, using apt or dpkg on an offline host, to select some packages for download and make a list of all those packges and dependencies,
[20:01] <Danbo19> oh, okay well thanks
[20:01] <panfist_> then to download all the packages on taht list and provide them to the offline host?
[20:01] <krysis> ikonia: ok i see, but i don't know what driver i am using currently, nor do i know how to edit the xorg.conf to switch the driver
[20:01] <ZykoticK9> panfist_, look into apt-on-cd
[20:01] <_UsUrPeR_> christof: pastebin is a web site where you can copy-paste lots of information for other people to look at. You submit all the stuff I asked you to give me, and give me the link to the site
[20:02] <mezquitale> Danbo19, I dont know how the access is done with iTunes meaning I dont know where the data needs to be stored but if you have files in your ubuntu hard drive then you can access it in your virtual machine, install guest additions first though
[20:02] <panfist_> ok
[20:02] <actionparsnip> Danbo19: check the appdb dude, silver rating now (I don't use apple's garbage so haven't personally tested)
[20:02] <ikonia> krysis: set the driver to "intel", look at an example xorg and take the video device section as an example
[20:02] <krysis> ikonia:  if i take a look at xorg.conf from sabayan could i potentiall find out what to edit for my driver to work? or does xorg depend on distro?
[20:02] <christof> thank you
[20:02] <Danbo19> appdb?
[20:02] <actionparsnip> !appdb | danbo19
[20:02] <ikonia> krysis: that would be a fine example
[20:02] <protojay> type /nick encoded to do something amazing!
[20:02] <krysis> ikonia: ok thank you, i'll look into it
[20:02] <ikonia> krysis: more so if sabayan is working
[20:03] <ikonia> protojay: why ? what has that got do to with ubuntu ?
[20:03] <ikonia> krysis: shout if you have a problem
[20:03] <Danbo19> thanks for the help
[20:03] <mezquitale> Danbo19, is your device being detected in the virtual machine?
[20:03] <krysis> ikonia: yeah as far as i can tell whatever sabayan is using is running alot better than the ubuntu driver, i'll take a gander and report back if your still on
[20:04] <roof> hi all
[20:04] <Trek> anyone need help today?
[20:04] <Trek> !hi | roof
[20:04] <mezquitale> Trek, why yes, I am trying to figure out how to encrypt a secondary drive in my laptop
[20:05] <roof> who can help me ? i need some healp in FreeBSD
[20:05] <ikonia> roof: the guys in #freebsd can
[20:05] <emghazal> My HP laptop has some extra buttons (mute, volume up/down, play/pause, stop, wireless on/off, etc), they can be changed from System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts (they have names like "XF86AudioMute"). But I can't change the wireless on/off button (it turns bluetooth on/off instead of wifi). When I click an action in Keyboard Shortcuts then press the wireless button, it doesn't get recorded, but all other buttons do. Any ideas?
[20:05] <roof> thx
[20:05] <actionparsnip> Roof: bsd isn't supported here
[20:05] <roof> #freebsd
[20:05] <roof> ??
[20:05] <Myrtti> mezquitale: cryptsetup is nice
[20:05] <roof> i can;t
[20:05] <ikonia> roof: it's a channel, type /join #freebsd
[20:05] <Trek> roof: /join #freebsd
[20:05] <actionparsnip> !shortcut | emghazal
[20:05] <roof> thx
[20:05] <ionut> hi all.does anyone can tell me how can i create a script for ubuntu 9.10 that makes the updates automatically ?
[20:06] <Samuel-NotAFK> Where can I get a Webkit 1.1.20 package for Ubuntu Karmic?
[20:06] <Trek> ionut, the updates require admin password, and auto-update anyways, so why do you need a script?
[20:06] <Davedan> how can I check if my server is swapping?
[20:06] <ikonia> !info webkit
[20:06] <ikonia> Davedan: swapon -s
[20:06] <roof> u... i don't have invite in this #freebsd chenal*
[20:06] <jellow> ionut: add a script with sudo apt-get update && upgrade to /etc/cron.daily/
[20:06] <Trek> roof, one sec
[20:06] <actionparsnip> Ionut: make the script then cron the script to run when you wish (as root)
[20:06] <ikonia> roof: ##freebsd
[20:06] <bombel> argh.... i lost the sound at all
[20:06] <ionut> yes
[20:06] <mneptok> ionut: create a root cronjob that runs apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade
[20:06] <ionut> actionparsnip: but how can i create that script
[20:07] <emghazal> actionparsnip: Thanks, I'll try that
[20:07] <roof> ok i wait
[20:07] <ionut> mneptok: i have no idea of how can i create that script
[20:07] <ikonia> roof: no - please join ##freebsd
[20:07] <actionparsnip> Ionut: its a text file with the top line: #!/bin/bash
[20:07] <roof> oh ok many thx
[20:07] <ikonia> ionut: read the script that mneptok has suggested
[20:07] <shacky> ubuntu-fr
[20:07] <macman_> question .. just installed 9.10 right and now i get a grub error
[20:07] <Trek> roof: it won't work
[20:07] <actionparsnip> Ionut: then the rest are just commands like you type in terminal
[20:07] <macman_> i did a grub find /boot/grub/stage1
[20:08] <Trek> roof: you'll need to register your nick first.  i just spoke to them
[20:08] <macman_> file not found .. what am i doing wrong ?
[20:08] <ionut> ikonia: what script ????
[20:08] <mneptok> ionut: there are tons of tutorials on the web about how to create shell scripts. take some time and read through a few.
[20:08] <ikonia> ubottu: you have to write it,
[20:08] <ikonia> oops
[20:08] <actionparsnip> Macman_: boot to livecd and reinstall grub
[20:08] <macman_> yea
[20:08] <ionut> mneptok: thx ,i'll do that
[20:08] <roof> ho ok.. how i can do this? (register my nick)
[20:08] <mezquitale> Myrtti, will I have to manually mount the encrypted drive with cryptsetup?
[20:08] <Trek> !register | roof
[20:08] <ikonia> !register | roof
[20:08] <macman_> do grub .. type in find /boot/grub/stage1 .. it didn't find it actionparsnip
[20:09] <actionparsnip> !register | roof
[20:09] <mneptok> ionut: you are automating complex functionality. just asking someone in an IRC channel how to do it is probably a Bad Idea. this is a case where you want to really understand what you're doing.
[20:09] <Davedan> ikonia: swapon -s says that 524428 is used out of 1048568
[20:09] <ikonia> Davedan: so that's what's used
[20:09] <roof> !register | roof
[20:09] <actionparsnip> Macman_: that's all I can advise. I have never had a grub issue
[20:09] <roof> i see
[20:10] <Myrtti> mezquitale: works well with fstab. i use it to encrypt my whole system with luks
[20:10] <ionut> mneptok: i wasn't asking the script, but just some ideas,any way.thx for all the help
[20:10] <Samuel-NotAFK> Where can I get a Webkit 1.1.20 package for Ubuntu Karmic?
[20:11] <bombel> Is there any possibility to have default configurations for sound ?
[20:11] <mneptok> Samuel-NotAFK: the webkit team has a PPA on Launchpad
[20:11] <actionparsnip> Samuel-NotAFK: websearch for ppa search
[20:11] <Samuel-NotAFK> mneptok: I don't think they offer a 1.1.20 package.
[20:11] <actionparsnip> Samuel-NotAFK: the top result will let you seach the launchpad ppas
[20:12] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all
[20:12] <DavidJHeinrich> I rebooted my computer using the latest LiveCD for Linux (10.04 Liquid LTS) to test recording with my onboard audio...it does not work. Should I report a bug in that driver? how?
[20:12] <roof> why i can't register.. i type all what you say but nothing dont heapen
[20:13] <ikonia> roof: join #freenode and ask for help
[20:13] <Pici> DavidJHeinrich : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[20:13] <Andre_Re> hey, i want to use stereo mix as input in mumble
[20:13] <Andre_Re> how does that work?
[20:13] <Samuel-NotAFK> actionparsnip mneptok: The latest I can fin is 1.1.19
[20:13] <PeterT> Do you recommend the CD installation of Ubuntu inside of Windows??
[20:13] <Samuel-NotAFK> s/fin/find/
[20:13] <Bigshot> after installing "new fonts" I only see "rectangle blocks" instead of "alphabetical characters" in "gdm" what should i do?
[20:13] <mezquitale> Andre_Re, use jack
[20:13] <ikonia> PeterT: personally no,
[20:13] <Andre_Re> i only get my microphone sound into
[20:13] <PeterT> ikonia: What would happen?
[20:13] <Bigshot> after installing "new fonts" I only see "rectangle blocks" instead of "alphabetical characters" in "gdm" what should i do? how can i fix this fonts problem?
[20:13] <Andre_Re> mezquitale: what? sorry, i don't use linux very often
[20:14] <actionparsnip> Samuel-NotAFK: then you will need to compile or contact a ppa maintainer to see if they will do it for you
[20:14] <net> hello
[20:14] <mezquitale> Andre_Re, ok go ask in #ubuntustudio
[20:14] <Andre_Re> thx
[20:14] <DavidJHeinrich> Pici: my onboard audio doesn't work in 9.04, I was told to boot using Lucid LiveCD and report bug if still there
[20:14] <actionparsnip> Samuel-NotAFK: or see if you can find a deb file sitting someplace
[20:15] <ikonia> PeterT: I don't rate the technology/how it does it, a real install is works
[20:15] <PeterT> ok
[20:15] <Pici> maco: Which package should DavidJHeinrich file a bug against if his audio does not work in Lucid as well?
[20:15] <maco> Pici: linux
[20:15] <PeterT> It seems that my screen turns black and does nothing when I try to install Ubuntu from a CD Boot, ikonia, that's why I'm asking
[20:15] <maco> Pici: alsa doesnt recognize his sound card at all
[20:15] <ikonia> PeterT: what video card do you use ?
[20:16] <net> ss
[20:16] <maco> Pici: and alsa is in the kernel
[20:16] <Pici> DavidJHeinrich: Run ubuntu-bug linux and describe your problem.
[20:16] <zwakikushtia> i need a information
[20:16] <PeterT> I'm not sure, ikonia
[20:16] <PeterT> I will look
[20:16] <PeterT> How do I check that on Windows, ikonia?
[20:16] <Bigshot> after installing "new fonts" I only see "rectangle blocks" instead of "alphabetical characters" in "gdm" what should i do? how can i fix this fonts problem?
[20:16] <ikonia> PeterT: join ##windows and ask for help
[20:16] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: "sound card not recognized by alsa" should be the basic description
[20:16] <zwakikushtia> i wana vedio and voice @ ubuntu 9.10
[20:16] <Pici> maco: Thanks.  Brain not worky today.
[20:16] <ikonia> zwakikushtia: skype
[20:17] <krysis> ikonia: hey its me again, im in sabayan and heres the xorg.conf for it, can you tell me if its something that isn't available on ubuntu? http://pastebin.com/d715d7ad
[20:17] <actionparsnip> zwakikushtia: amsn and pidgin too
[20:17] <DavidJHeinrich> maco, but it does work...I get output...I can hear input feedback, but it doesn't record input from headset mic
[20:17] <ivansmo> please can anyone help me on install codec pack for watching movies
[20:17] <VCoolio> for gtk-themers: how to theme the buttons at the end of a scrolling menu, like for choosing filetypes in 'save as' dialogs?
[20:17] <zwakikushtia> but douse it work with ym and gtalk
[20:17] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: bah youre the other person, sorry :P i told two people to file bugs on linux today
[20:17] <ikonia> krysis: line 25-37 is the key lines
[20:17] <actionparsnip> Ivansmo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:17] <ikonia> !code > ivansmo
[20:17] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: then itd just be that your mic doesn't work and you need a quirk but dont know which
[20:18] <Ox0000> How to install a package with all of its dependencies to be automatically installed with one single apt-get command?
[20:18] <actionparsnip> Ivansmo: also add the medibuntu ppa and install codecs there
[20:18] <krysis> ikonia: yeah i figured, are those lines dependencies available in ubuntu or do i have to install something for them to work?
[20:18] <ikonia> Ox0000: it auto does that for you
[20:18] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: I was here earlier and was told it was a driver issue if I played with ALSA stuff, can hear feedback from talking into mic, but still can't record
[20:18] <ikonia> krysis: they should be fine
[20:18] <Bigshot> ikonia, buddy can you tell me how to fix my fonts problem?
[20:18] <VCoolio> ikonia: there is also a switch to install recommended packages too, what was that again
[20:18] <krysis> ikonia: thank you! i'll go ahead and edit my xorg.conf in ubuntu and see how that goes
[20:18] <PeterT> ikonia: Are you still there?
[20:18] <ikonia> Bigshot: no idea if you, tell me the problem, maybe
[20:18] <PeterT> ikonia: ATI Radeon HD4350
[20:19] <actionparsnip> !fonts | bigshot
[20:19] <zwakikushtia> i need heelp
 what that means medibuntu ppa
[20:19] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: ok so just say that. you've got an analog audio feedback loop so it appears to record, but really it doesn't
[20:19] <ikonia> PeterT: ok, some ati cards do cause the installer problem, have you looked at the alternative install cd on ubuntu.com
[20:19] <ikonia> zwakikushtia: ask a question then
[20:19] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: ok, thanks
[20:19] <zwakikushtia> i wold like to use yahoo massenger and gtalk with vedio chat
[20:19] <actionparsnip> !medibuntu | ivansmo
[20:19] <PeterT> ikonia: No, could you link me?
[20:19] <ikonia> zwakikushtia: that doesn't work/not supported in ubunt
[20:20] <zwakikushtia> whats the soluation??
[20:20] <ikonia> PeterT: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[20:20] <wasutton3> does anyone know of a server that will respond to ping?
[20:20] <ikonia> zwakikushtia: don't use yahoo on linux
[20:20] <ikonia> wasutton3: google.com
[20:20] <jellow> wasutton3: google?
[20:20] <PeterT> ikonia: That's just the cd image
[20:20] <zwakikushtia> whynot
[20:20] <ikonia> PeterT: no it's not, read the text on the internet
[20:20] <ikonia> PeterT: on the page sorry
[20:20] <ivansmo> Now I installing codecs, how should I install medibuntu app?
[20:21] <DavidJHeinrich> arg, how do I get Shiretoko (FF 3.5) to be the web-browser that apps open links in? since I removed Firefox 3.0, links in other apps aren't opening up browser
[20:21] <ikonia> ivansmo: you shouldn't need to
[20:21] <wasutton3> ikonia , jellow: i get the following form that "From Serverbox (192.168.1.100) icmp_seq=1 Destination Port Unreachable"
[20:21] <actionparsnip> zwakikushtia: ikonia: gyache?
[20:21] <zwakikushtia> waht???
[20:21] <PeterT> ok
[20:21] <ikonia> wasutton3: so you can't ping that host
[20:21] <ikonia> actionparsnip: that doesn't support video
[20:21] <wasutton3> iknonia: correct. but the computer is online
[20:21] <actionparsnip> Wasuttin3: www.google.com will respond
[20:21] <ivansmo> OK thanks ikonia & actionparnship
[20:21] <VCoolio> Ox0000: apt-get --install-recommends <blah>  will get you recommended packages too
[20:21] <ikonia> wasutton3: probabnly firewalls or routing
[20:22] <wasutton3> ikonia: alright
[20:22] <zwakikushtia> wine is not working in ubuntu
[20:22] <zwakikushtia> what is the process to run it
[20:22] <ikonia> !wine | zwakikushtia
[20:22] <Davedan> free shows me that I only have free 30MB memory out of 512MB. but top shows me that I have one process with 66% memory and the rest only 1%
[20:22] <jellow> zwakikushtia: wine
[20:22] <ikonia> Davedan: system cache allocation probably
[20:22] <zwakikushtia> yes i knopw
[20:23] <zwakikushtia> know
[20:23] <Davedan> ikonia: what does it means?
[20:23] <ikonia> zwakikushtia: ok - that's how you do it then
[20:23] <actionparsnip> Davidheinrich: mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox_old; sudo ln -s /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 /usr/bin/firefox
[20:23] <DavidJHeinrich> does anyone know how to make Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko) the default browser for apps?
[20:23] <zwakikushtia> but its not working
[20:23] <ikonia> Davedan: it means it's using ram to cache the file system
[20:23] <actionparsnip> Ikonia: bah :(
[20:23] <ikonia> zwakikushtia: whats the problem, as "not working" doesn't tell us antything
[20:23] <Davedan> ikonia: my SSH is not responding and support said that it might be because of swapping
[20:23] <ikonia> actionparsnip: ?
[20:23] <wasutton3> yep that was it, thanks all
[20:23] <jellow> zwakikushtia: how is not working ?
[20:23] <ikonia> Davedan: VERY doubtful
[20:23] <Davedan> ikonia: is there a way to verify why SSH is not working?
[20:23] <actionparsnip> Ikonia: thought it did
[20:23] <VCoolio> DavidJHeinrich: set it to be your default browser in system > prefs > preferred apps
[20:23] <Davedan> ikonia: what can cause it?
[20:23] <ikonia> actionparsnip: ahh
[20:23] <Davedan> ikonia: Jabber server and nginx works
[20:23] <ikonia> Davedan: ssh not running is the most common problem, or a firewall
[20:23] <actionparsnip> Davedan: telnet to the socket
[20:24] <zwakikushtia> in wine no program is installed
[20:24] <ikonia> Davedan: ssh localhost will test it
[20:24] <ikonia> zwakikushtia: then install programs
[20:24] <Davedan> actionparsnip: what do you mean?
[20:24] <zwakikushtia> how kan i install a progam in wine???
[20:24] <ikonia> zwakikushtia: read the links you where sent
[20:24] <ivansmo> NOW installing fonts :D
[20:24] <zwakikushtia> where
[20:24] <actionparsnip> Davedan: telnet can connect to any socket. A socket is an ip + port number
[20:24] <blakkheim> zwakikushtia: /join #winehq
[20:24] <ikonia> !wine | zwakikushtia
[20:24] <ivansmo> One more question please
[20:25] <Davedan> ikonia: ssh localhost from the ajax console works
[20:25] <ivansmo> I cant hear sound, my sound card has been installed and system seeas her but no sound at all
[20:25] <Davedan> ikonia: what does it tells me?
[20:25] <actionparsnip> Davedan: if you are on the ssh server, connect to localhost as you were told earlier. If it connects then you know the service is ok
[20:25] <DavidJHeinrich> VCoolio: Thank you
[20:25] <Davedan> actionparsnip: it does connect to localhost
[20:26] <klappi>  #php
[20:26] <klappi> sorry
[20:26] <actionparsnip> Davedan: then ping from client to server
[20:26] <lifestream> Is there a program that I can just dump my entire music folder to it, and it will go through it and give it the right names, album pic, etc... wihtout interaction? because my library is huge and i have to do the dishes ;p
[20:26] <Davedan> actionparsnip: ping works
[20:26] <zwakikushtia> nobody is there
[20:26] <Davedan> actionparsnip: can I ping to the ssh port?
[20:26] <actionparsnip> Davedan: are you connecting to a system behind a router?
[20:27] <Davedan> actionparsnip: I'm connecting to a vps
[20:27] <actionparsnip> Davedan: no,ping is only ip based
[20:27] <erUSUL> lifestream: easytag?
[20:27] <Davedan> actionparsnip: my local machine is behind a router but it didn't cause truble before
[20:27] <zwakikushtia> What is VPN???
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> Davedan, you can't "ping" a port but you can use "telnet" to test a port
[20:27] <Davedan> ZykoticK9: what is the command?
[20:28] <actionparsnip> Davedan: telnet to the ip on port 22 unless you changed the ssh port
[20:28] <Davedan> ZykoticK9: will it tell me if the firewall closed it? I was able to connect few days ago and didn't change anything since
[20:28] <BitWraith> what program provides the network manager in the tray on Xubuntu?
[20:28] <Davedan> ok. trying
[20:28] <lifestream> erUSUL,  yeah, I've tried easytag, but it seems i have to babysit it.    it doesn't do anything unless i click here here and there for each single file
[20:29] <Myrtti> BitWraith: networkmanager
[20:29] <zwakikushtia> www.lawinbd.blogspot.com
[20:29] <actionparsnip> Bitwraith: you can use wivd in any DE
[20:30] <Davedan> actionparsnip: can't telnet to ssh port. it just hangs
[20:30] <Bigshot> yo i can't freakin change the "rectangles" that i see in gdm how can i bring it back to normal?
[20:30] <Bigshot> instead of fonts
[20:30] <Bigshot> very irritating
[20:30] <jokehead> will all wireless mice work on ubuntu?
[20:30] <Hilikus> how do i create a directory that belongs to a different user than the one creating it?
[20:30] <coz_> Bigshot,  rectangles?
[20:30] <actionparsnip> Hilikus: use chown after making it
[20:30] <Trek> jokehead: i haven't yet seen one that doesnt work on Ubuntu
[20:30] <Hilikus> if i sudo it the owner is root, eventhough the parent directory is owned by backup
[20:30] <Bigshot> coz_, i see rectangles instead of alphabetsz
[20:31] <Trek> unless its bluetooth
[20:31] <erUSUL> Hilikus: create it then change owner
[20:31] <SPhcT> how to delete unwanted files from terminal?
[20:31] <coz_> Bigshot,   this is at log on?
[20:31] <Bigshot> yes
[20:31] <`mOOse`> which is preferrable? jdkjre or the one direct from sun?
[20:31] <jokehead> Trek, are you one of the experts?
[20:31] <coz_> Bigshot,  mm   which video card are you r unning
[20:31] <Bigshot> radeon 3200 hd
[20:31] <benwa-ktm_> hi, i just installed ubuntu  9.04 on a power pc, but my user is not on the sudoers file. I can't do anything. Any idea?
[20:31] <actionparsnip> Sphct: rm is the command
[20:31] <amirite> normally i use a package called mktorrent to make my torrent metafiles in gentoo but i don't see that package when i use apt-cache search, what should I do?
[20:31] <Hilikus> ii know that one, there's no way to do it automatically in one command? sometimes i forget to chown it
[20:31] <Trek> jokehead: i've got 7 completely different brands of wireless mice on 7  different computers running the same version of Ubuntu
[20:32] <Trek> jokehead: if that makes me an issue on that topic, then good for me.
[20:32] <Bigshot> coz_, any ideas that would fix this?
[20:32] <coz_> Bigshot,  mm I know too little about ati   to check on the driver installation but y ou could talk with soreau  about this
[20:32] <actionparsnip> Hilikus: check: m.an mkdir
[20:32] <Andre_Re> hey, some sound eperts here?
[20:32] <erUSUL> Hilikus: mkdir folder/ && chown $USER folder/
[20:32] <uzi__> how can i make sans font point some other font?
[20:32] <coz_> Bigshot,  I am also checking so h old on
[20:32] <Bigshot> coz_, this isn't video card problem
[20:32] <zilkomaa> Would someone be so nice and tell me couple useful irssi scripts?
[20:32] <blakkheim> zeltak: /join #irssi
[20:32] <Andre_Re> which input must i select in mumble to record the output of the spekers instead of the microphone
[20:32] <daftykins> zilkomaa: i like nichcolor.pl :>
[20:32] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, and how to delete unwanted directory what i made at /home
[20:32] <blakkheim> zilkomaa: tab name error
[20:32] <Bigshot> i installed and changed the fonts to newly installed therefore everything changed
[20:32] <daftykins> er nickcolor.pl
[20:32] <mezquitale> benwa-ktm_, reintall, if your user is not in the sudoers file in a fresh install that sounds like a really bad bug
[20:32] <uzi__> how can i make sans to point to some other font?
[20:33] <Trek> zilkomaa: /join #irssi
[20:33] <zilkomaa> Thank you
[20:33] <coz_> Bigshot,  did you regenerate the font cache?
[20:33] <zilkomaa> Trek: cant wrote a thing in there
[20:33] <actionparsnip> Sphict: rmdir folder or rm -rf folder
[20:33] <benwa-ktm_> mezquitale, yes, i am afraid it's the best thing to do.
[20:33] <Bigshot> yes coz_
[20:33] <panfist_> i'm using karmic 9.10 32bit with an older generation intel graphics (82845G/GL Brookdale-G) and it's not detecting any resolution mode above 800x600, even if i try to set it explicitly with xrandr
[20:33] <Bigshot> fc-cache
[20:33] <Trek> hold on zilkomaa
[20:33] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, how delete x... here is path... /home/asmob/x
[20:33] <coz_> Bigshot,  ok did you also try to change the gdm theme
[20:34] <mezquitale> benwa-ktm_, you could search through launcpad first though and maybe post a bug report, I bet a lot of the developers would want to see what happened on your machine
[20:34] <Bigshot> coz_, yes but later not before it happened
[20:34] <actionparsnip> Sphct: rm -rf /home/asmob/x
[20:34] <emghazal> I have an update on my problem. I'll post it again then the update: My HP laptop has some extra buttons (mute, volume up/down, play/pause, stop, wireless on/off, etc), they can be changed from System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts (they have names like "XF86AudioMute"). But I can't change the wireless on/off button (it turns bluetooth on/off instead of wifi). When I click an action in Keyboard Shortcuts then press the wireless button, it doesn't get rec
[20:34] <jokehead> thanks Trek, ill need a couple of more opinions on this issue to be sure
[20:34] <emghazal> orded, but all other buttons do.
[20:34] <benwa-ktm_> mezquitale, even on a ppc?
[20:34] <coz_> Bigshot,  but the "main
[20:34] <roof89> hi all .can you please sand me invite to ##freebsd channel
[20:34] <Trek> zilkomaa: you need to register your nickname first
[20:34] <jokehead> does anybody know if all wireless mice work on ubuntu?
[20:34] <coz_> Bigshot,   but the "main" accoutn is ok?
[20:34] <Trek> !register > zilkomaa
[20:34] <koichirose> hi, how do I scan a directory for files different from a given extension? for example, scan /media/data for NON mp3 files
[20:35] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, big ty for your help
[20:35] <actionparsnip> !hcl | jokehead
[20:35] <mezquitale> ben_, what's a ppc???
[20:35] <actionparsnip> Sphct: np man
[20:35] <Bigshot> coz_, everything else is fine just the logon scree is f'ed up with rectangles
[20:35] <jrib> koichirose: you may use « find »
[20:35] <uzi__> how to make sans point to some other font?
[20:35] <eamon> what is this chat area for exactly?
[20:35] <jrib> eamon: ubuntu support
[20:35] <roof89> hi all .can you please sand me invite to ##freebsd channel
[20:35] <emghazal> I tried Keytouch, it seems that all the extra buttons are on /dev/event5 except that wireless button, which is on none of the event*. Does that mean I can't change it?
[20:35] <actionparsnip> |ot | eamon
[20:35] <koichirose> jrib, I tried to read the 'find' man page, but couldn't find anything useful for the purpose
[20:35] <actionparsnip> !ot | eamon
[20:35] <jrib> koichirose: search for "not"
[20:36] <eamon> where can i just chat what channel should i join?
[20:36] <jrib> koichirose: and "-iname"
[20:36] <coz_> Bigshot,  ok try these commands in order.... sudo dpkg-reconfigure libcairo2 libpango1.0-common     sudo fc-cache -fs       sudo update-pangox-aliases    then restart GDM or restart x properly  see if that helps
[20:36] <`mOOse`> just chat about what? the weather? vodka? your new car?
[20:36] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, do yo now how get webcam to work?
[20:36] <eamon> a new car
[20:36] <mezquitale> eamon, ubuntu support
[20:36] <`mOOse`> I recommend efnet
[20:36] <Bigshot> coz_, now i changed to xfce instead of gnome
[20:36] <eamon> ok thanks bye
[20:36] <roof89> why i con't to join to #freebsd ?
[20:36] <Bigshot> but still the problem persists
[20:36] <actionparsnip> Sphct: run: lsusb
[20:37] <actionparsnip> Sphct: use the id to find guides online
[20:37] <`mOOse`> roof89, is your nick registered?
[20:37] <coz_> Bigshot,  ok go back to gnome and run those commands if the log on is still scrambled
[20:37] <roof89> iep
[20:37] <Bigshot> coz_,  i removed gnome already!
[20:37] <coz_> Bigshot,  oh ok they should still work in xfce
[20:38] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, is it posable that any of drivers not working for my pc?
[20:38] <mezquitale> `mOOse`, have you ever encrypted a hard drive?  I want to encrypt a secondary hard drive
[20:38] <`mOOse`> roof89, I just joined and parted - I don't know
[20:38] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, no I haven't - sorry
[20:38] <Trek> !register > rof89
[20:38] <actionparsnip> Sphct: use the hardware you suspect is not working
[20:38] <Trek> !register > roof89
[20:38] <Trek> roof89, you need to register to get to ##freebsd
[20:39] <jrib> koichirose: if you used zsh,  you could do something like **/^*.mp3(.)   :)
[20:39] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, i had wierd things today almost 4h trying to get webcam work but i cant..
[20:39] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, noone can..
[20:40] <BitWraith> I don't know what happened to my network manager before... but I cold rebooted to fix something else and it seems to be working now. :-)
[20:40] <actionparsnip> Sphct: took me an hour to get sound working in vista here
[20:40] <koichirose> jrib, got it: -type f -not -iname "*.mp3"
[20:40] <ubuntu> 1
[20:40] <`mOOse`> BitWraith, we like those :)
[20:40] <jrib> koichirose: yes
[20:40] <ubuntu> test
[20:40] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, :D
[20:41] <guntbert> ubuntu: we hear you -  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:41] <BitWraith> I know, you hsould never have to reboot linux... but this machine has a wireless switch on it that is a bit flakey in linux and I thought a cold reboot would help to reset it to a usable state
[20:41] <actionparsnip> Sphct: works out of the box in all linuxes I tried
[20:41] <GreenDance> Hi, I'm stuck, I'm trying to use the "Make Startup Disk" but the option to "Make" is ghosted, http://i45.tinypic.com/sz7hqo.jpg
[20:41] <panfist_> i'm using karmic 9.10 32bit with an older generation intel graphics (82845G/GL Brookdale-G) and it's not detecting any resolution mode above 800x600, even if i try to set it explicitly with xrandr. a lot of google results about the problem are from the year 2007 so i'm not sure if those are safe to try
[20:41] <actionparsnip> Sphct: websearch the id. You'll find guides
[20:41] <ubuntu> hello, sorry, but I'm testing LiveCD only :)
[20:42] <actionparsnip> Greendance: run the app using gksudo
[20:42] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, i find a way but get lot of errors..
[20:42] <actionparsnip> Ubuntu: no bad thing
[20:42] <ubuntu> how can I change my username here...?
[20:42] <SPhcT> and i dont now if it realy works
[20:42] <guntbert> ubuntu: this is the ubuntu support channel - please test somewhere else
[20:42] <actionparsnip> !nick | ubuntu
[20:42] <GreenDance> actionparsnip, how would I do that?
[20:43] <amirite> how do I check what version a package is using apt-cache search
[20:43] <Bigshot> it didn't help
[20:43] <actionparsnip> Greendance: run alacarte to see what the command is then press alt+f2 and type: gksudo command
[20:43] <jrib> amirite: did you read the link I had ubottu give you before?
[20:43] <aropupu> amirite: apt-cache show packagename
[20:43] <actionparsnip> Amirite: apt-cache policy name
[20:44] <PeterT> Hello?
[20:44] <ubuntu> I don't understand all your sentences because my english... I'm from Poland...
[20:44] <actionparsnip> !hi | petert
[20:44] <PeterT> I'm assuming that the Ubuntu Windows Installer is uninstallable?
[20:44] <actionparsnip> !pl | ubuntu
[20:44] <GreenDance> actionparsnip,
[20:44] <Hilikus> what about files? is it possible to have a file be owned by the same person that owns the folder where it resides or it will always be owned by the person who creates it?
[20:45] <Soyo> !pl
[20:45] <ubuntu> szczerze mowiac jestem pierwszy raz na jakimkolwiek kanale IRC (mimo swoich 40 lat zycia) i nie za bardzo wiem jak sie tutaj poruszac...
[20:45] <amirite> how do I get mktorrent?
[20:45] <SPhcT> actionparsnip, Genesys webcam 05e3:0503 here it is and all i can find in google: problem not working etc..
[20:45] <amirite> I don't see it in apt
[20:45] <erUSUL> Hilikus: set the sguid bit in the folder ( g+s ) iirc
[20:45] <alexander_kudrin> You forgot Poland )))
[20:45] <Soyo> ./join #ubuntu-pl
[20:46] <actionparsnip> Sphct: that's all I cam suggest dude. Try logging a bug with it
[20:46] <DavidJHeinrich> alrighty all, since my onboard sound card doesn't seem to be working for mic-in, will a small simple USB SC work better than an in-the-case PCI sound card? i.e., USB linux SC (I just use headphones right now): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829111004
[20:46] <ubuntu> ./join #ubuntu-pl
[20:46] <amirite> how do I get mktorrent? I don't see it in apt but I use it in gentoo
[20:46] <ubuntu> :(
[20:46] <Soyo> niet .
[20:46] <PeterT> hey guys, what does "installation size" mean on the Windows Installer for Ubuntu?
[20:46] <andreeeee> Hy all, i need to rend permanent boot option "acpi=off" from livecd, how can i do it? Ty
[20:46] <actionparsnip> Amirite: websearch for: ppa search
[20:46] <mezquitale> DavidJHeinrich, have you tried installing "gnome-alsamixer" and enabling the mic?
[20:46] <amirite> thanks action
[20:47] <daftykins> PeterT: possibly how big you want the virtual hard disk to be
[20:47] <actionparsnip> Amirite: the top result will allow you to search for a ppa with one on
[20:47] <PeterT> daftykins: I have an entire harddisk dedicated for Linux, what then?
[20:47] <shane2peru> Does anyone know how to get the terminal to sound an audible alarm when a job is done?
[20:47] <amirite> I found the ppa, but how do I install a ppa
[20:47] <daftykins> PeterT: you'd want to boot from CD and install like that, not use WUBI then.
[20:47] <DavidJHeinrich> do simple USB plug & play Sound Cards work better than PCI-E sound cards?
[20:47] <actionparsnip> Shane2peru: you could tell it to run a sound player playon a sound of some sort
[20:47] <jrib> shane2peru: command1; command2ThatPlaysSound?
[20:48] <Bigshot> i see "rectangles" instead of fonts  in "logon" screen i am using xfce -- this happened after i installed new fonts and changed the default fonts!!!
[20:48] <PeterT> daftykins: It doesn't seem to work like then
[20:48] <actionparsnip> Shane2peru: command1; command2; mplayer sound.mp3
[20:48] <shane2peru> actionparsnip, jrib, ok that was my thought too, is there a simple command to play a bell?  or do I need to script that out
[20:48] <jrib> shane2peru: see echo's man page
[20:49] <amirite> action, the instructions on installing ppa give gui instructions
[20:49] <amirite> i'm on a shell
[20:49] <actionparsnip> Bigshot: try changing the font
[20:49] <amirite> what should i look for in etc
[20:49] <DavidJHeinrich> mezquitale, I have GNOME ALSA mixer, turned on the mic & mic boost...I hear feedback when I type or talk; so the mic pics it up and it goes to the headphones. But I still can't record
[20:49] <shane2peru> jrib, ok, I will check that out, thanks
[20:49] <Bigshot> actionparsnip, how?
[20:49] <jrib> shane2peru: echo -e '\a' apparently
[20:50] <actionparsnip> Amirite: use a web browser to follow, you can use lynx or use a different system
[20:50] <josh0x0> hey guys.  I just replaced a nvidia gfx card with an ATI.  I did a remove of the nvidia drivers with apt-get remove --purge nvidia* but the kernel is still trying to load it.  how can I safely remove it and tell it to load my ATI graphic driver?
[20:50] <amirite> no, i mean i want to install this ppa
[20:50] <amirite> wtf do i do
[20:50] <emghazal> !bot > emghazal
[20:50] <daftykins> josh0x0: modprobe -r nvidia
[20:50] <`mOOse`> anybody running firefox 3.6 on their boxes?
[20:50] <actionparsnip> Bigshot: it will be in preferences someplace
[20:50] <jrib> !ppa | amirite
[20:50] <amirite> the instructions on this page tell me to use some gui bullshit https://launchpad.net/~dcecchin/+archive/ppa
[20:50] <amirite> i'm not a gui user
[20:51] <jrib> amirite: erm, never mind ubottu's link
[20:51] <actionparsnip> `mOOse`: god no
[20:51] <josh0x0> daftykins: odd.  says it was not found but I still got an error on bootup that it couldn't find the driver "nvidia"
[20:51] <boourns> `mOOse`, i switched from firefox 3.6 to chrome... its much faster, for me at least
[20:51] <jrib> amirite: please watch the language though
[20:51] <zilkomaa> Hey! I updated firefox 3.5  to 3.62 and now i have firefox/namoroka combo thing is that a bad thing?
[20:51] <shane2peru> jrib, hmm, didn't work, I can just script it out so I have a simple bell command or something, thanks
[20:51] <actionparsnip> Amirite: ppa can be added at cli
[20:51] <zilkomaa> I want that firefox 3.62 only
[20:51] <amirite> right, how?
[20:51] <jrib> shane2peru: you've probably muted your terminal
[20:51] <`mOOse`> 3.6 is really hosed....I think I'll wait for 3.7
[20:51] <daftykins> josh0x0: that'll be because your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is still configured to use it then. backup the file and look up how-to's on setting xorg.conf to be configured for ATI
[20:51] <ZykoticK9> amirite, are you using karmic?  if so you can use "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dcecchin/ppa"
[20:51] <actionparsnip> Zilkomaa: if that's its codename then yes
[20:51] <`mOOse`> chrome is nice and fast but I gotta have my addons
[20:52] <amirite> i'll try that zyko
[20:52] <boourns> they have them now - and its basically like greasemonkey is built in which is awesome
[20:52] <actionparsnip> `moose`: add the mozilla ppa and you can have it today
[20:52] <Bigshot> actionparsnip, i don't see anysetting for fonts
[20:52] <shane2peru> jrib, I don't think I did, I'm using Ubuntu, I think K has this in konsole a way to have a bell sound after a job
[20:52] <shane2peru> jrib, maybe I did, but I certainly don't think I did.
[20:52] <amirite> fuck it, i'll just download the source and compile
[20:52] <kermit> how can i tell when packages have been used last so i know what i can delete?
[20:52] <amirite> ubuntu is stupid
[20:52] <actionparsnip> Bigshot: that's all I can suggest. I keep the logon screen stock
[20:52] <jrib> shane2peru: it's probably muted by default
[20:52] <actionparsnip> !ohmy | amirite
[20:53] <`mOOse`> actionparsnip...I'm hesitant...I put it on my suse kde install and the first thing it did was break about 5 of my well-used addons, then it seems to like to lock up for no apparent reason occasionally - I'll wait
[20:53] <shane2peru> jrib, ahh, that is probably more likely, no big deal, I can script it faster than figure out how to unmute my terminal. :)
[20:53] <actionparsnip> `moose`: your call. Chromium daily here
[20:54] <`mOOse`> I'll just stay at 3.5.7 for the time being - there's really nothing wrong with it for me
[20:54] <RS-232> Hi
[20:54] <`mOOse`> actionparsnip, yea, it's an addon thing really
[20:54] <guntbert> !hi | RS-232
[20:54] <RS-232> How can I set a BETWEEN DATES argument in views?? It does only let me to set one,
[20:54] <jrib> RS-232: wrong channel?  or be more specific
[20:54] <actionparsnip> `moose`there's a tonne of addons now
[20:54] <guntbert> RS-232: about what application are you talking?
[20:55] <RS-232> GUYS, sorry, wrong channel
[20:55] <RS-232> X-Chat automatically joins this channel, and I forgot to switch
[20:55] <actionparsnip> Between dates this man sleeps. BAM!
[20:55] <tcliam> I have added a ppa repository now I am wanting to know how I can download from it?
[20:55] <`mOOse`> yea it's been a while since I've looked any of those over - I should revisit
[20:55] <Bigshot> actionparsnip, i still see same crap there
[20:56] <zilkomaa> actionparsnip: You mean that is bad thing ? How it is bad could you be more specific?
[20:56] <erUSUL> tcliam: you do not need to do anything special.
[20:57] <actionparsnip> Zilkomaa: what's bad?
[20:57] <tcliam> well in the package manager it is still showing the older version however I havent installed the older version yet?
[20:58] <zilkomaa> actionparsnip: Your dad, he has a new way to love you.
[20:58] <cupofubuntu_> ooh
[20:58] <DavidJHeinrich> anyone here have advice on internal vs. external sound cards?
[20:58] <cupofubuntu_> ubuntu
[20:59] <erUSUL> tcliam: did you updated the lists after adding the new repositorie?
[20:59] <tcliam> nvm i got it
[20:59] <tcliam> yes just did it thanks
[20:59] <actionparsnip> Zilkomaa: so that's where he got that new more last night
[20:59] <mezquitale> DavidJHeinrich, just make sure the external card is supported by  ubuntu, i have both, the external card goes to my stereo, the internal card is for me to use with headphones
[21:00] <erUSUL> DavidJHeinrich: internal ones are good enough for 99.9% of things you do in a computer
[21:01] <rideh> can anyone help me out w/ acpid not working?
[21:01] <actionparsnip> !hcl | DavidJHeinrich
[21:02] <emghazal> When I try to use IRC commands such as /join and /msg in Empathy, I get "- Unsupported command", but this page says they should work http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ , am I missing something?
[21:02] <hemant> HI, Is there a way to map double right click?
[21:02] <hemant> or left+right click
[21:02] <hemant> to some action
[21:04] <macman_> i need to get my hdd back lol .. grub is gviing me errors .. my ubuntu is on /dev/sda5 but grub is giving me errors
[21:04] <macman_> find /boot/grub/stage1 isn't working
[21:05] <jerome__> cd\
[21:05] <erUSUL> !grub2 | macman_ that trick is for grub1
[21:05] <jerome__> vd
[21:05] <TruthTaco> Im having trouble with video on ubuntu, anyone know of a good guide that can show me how to uninstall everything video related, and then reinstall everything I need (correctly?)
[21:05] <jerome__> cd/
[21:05] <actionparsnip> Truthtaco: video in what sense
[21:05] <erUSUL> macman_: specify the exact error you get. "is giving me errors" helps none
[21:06] <TruthTaco> video playback, in general. flash sometimes gives problems, desktop videos that I know work slow down and stutter in all players (5 different ones ive tried)
[21:07] <`mOOse`> sounds like an acceleration problem with your vid card to me
[21:07] <TruthTaco> who me?
[21:07] <`mOOse`> yes
[21:08] <TruthTaco> I had 9.10 installed and had video working for the most part, except for high def videos. and ive had 9.04 installed with this video card and had video working
[21:08] <guntbert> !who | `mOOse`
[21:08] <actionparsnip> Truthtaco: run : lspci | grep -I vga
[21:08] <actionparsnip> Oops
[21:08] <actionparsnip> Truthtaco: -i
[21:08] <SPhcT> When i want install webcam i get this long warnings and erors can somone explain what is going out there??? here is paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/369116/
[21:08] <TruthTaco> I had to downgrade back to 9.04 and now, since reinstalling, I cant get video stuff installed right where it works
[21:08] <TruthTaco> ok ill try that
[21:09] <TruthTaco> ATI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900]
[21:09] <actionparsnip> !ati | truthtaco
[21:10] <TruthTaco> thanks
[21:10] <fale> hi
[21:10] <macman_> erUSUL: question .. i did an update-grub and it says .. gru-probe error: cannont find a device for /
[21:10] <TruthTaco> really i would like high def to work too but at this point id be lucky to get just normal videos working
[21:10] <macman_> ./dev/sda5 is where ubuntu is installed
[21:10] <erUSUL> macman_: wubi install? or normal?
[21:10] <buckyowch> trying to work on a .htcaccess file - I found 9 files with the AllowOveride Property - none of them http.conf which is what the docs say.  Does anyone know what file Apache 2.2 needs to be configured to allow .htcaccess files?
[21:10] <macman_> erUSUL: navitve /normal
[21:11] <actionparsnip> Truthtaco: your card is considered old by ati. The open driver will support it
[21:11] <erUSUL> macman_: paste sudo fidisk -l
[21:11] <guntbert> buckyowch: ask in #httpd please
[21:11] <buckyowch> ah thanks!
[21:11] <actionparsnip> Truthtaco: could double check on www.ati.com
[21:12] <Scrip> hello
[21:12] <ubuntar> Hi! The colors in xterm before was white text on black bg and now it is opposite.Using 10.04 alpha.Where i can fix that?
[21:12] <guntbert> !hi | Scrip
[21:12] <actionparsnip> !lucid | ubuntar
[21:12] <fradem> salve a tutti
[21:12] <guntbert> !it | fradem
[21:12] <ubuntar> thx
[21:13] <enrico__> excuse me again i don't find italian channel
[21:13] <recon69_lap> having problems with screen lockups when playing games, warzone2100 locks the screen regularly as well as urban terrorist (this loses sound, then locks on exit). anyone have any ideas?
[21:13] <erUSUL> enrico__: /join #ubuntu-it
[21:13] <DavidJHeinrich> erUSUL: do you have a recommendation for the best one to get? I just want it to work easily & well. Right now, I only use headphones or earbuds, so only 1 output + mic input
[21:13] <actionparsnip> !it | enrico
[21:14] <Darael> Does anyone in here have experience with davfs or fusedav?
[21:14] <DavidJHeinrich> erUSUL: I just want to be able to have music sound nice and have skype working easily, recommended SC for that?
[21:14] <jrib> Darael: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[21:14] <actionparsnip> Recon69_lap: can you restart x when it locks?
[21:14] <hwilde> how to make a directory recursively read-only ?
[21:14] <macman__> erUSUL: you there ?
[21:15] <jrib> hwilde: why?
[21:15] <hwilde> jrib, so that nobody can edit the code by accident
[21:15] <erUSUL> DavidJHeinrich: internal one is not working ? http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[21:15] <erUSUL> macman__: yes
[21:15] <jrib> hwilde: remove write permissions recursively
[21:15] <jrib> !permissions > hwilde
[21:15] <macman__> ok cool .. i had to log into the machine that has the live cd .. one sec while i paste fdisk -l
[21:16] <DavidJHeinrich> erUSUL: my internal on-board doesn't seem to be able to let me record...i can't record anything
[21:16] <recon69_lap> actionparsnip: well, been switching to a new terminal,logging in and rebooting. I would assume I could restart x
[21:16] <thunder000> l
[21:16] <actionparsnip> Recond_lap: ok restart x and run: dmesg | tail
[21:16] <kermit> how can i list the size and last use of all my installed packages?
[21:16] <recon69_lap> or start a new x anyway
[21:16] <DavidJHeinrich> erUSUL: my Asus P5Q-E motherboard uses the ADI AD2000B on-board sound chip
[21:17] <actionparsnip> Recond69_lap: you can also run games in terminal to hopefully get smart outputs
[21:17] <Darael> I've been trying to mount a webDAV share, which I normally can only get to through a godsawful MS ISA server browser interface.  I can't get it to mount with gvfs (places->connect to server), but I can mount it with davfs2 or fusedav.  Problem is, if I use davfs2 it takes... well, more than half an hour to unmount (I restarted in the end) and if I use fusedav I can't unmount it at all.
[21:17] <recon69_lap> actionparsnip: I'll do that next time i get a lockup and report back :)
[21:17] <krysis> ikonia: hey, i made the xorg with the preconfigured stuff, i havent tested nexuiz yet but im sure it wont work... as i try to use gtk-recordmydesktop the output comes like this: http://www.box.net/shared/49nt82clbm  its very blocky and the window being moved falls apart =(
[21:17] <actionparsnip> Recond69_lap: does the system feel hot when it locks
[21:18] <jrib> Darael: at least a year ago, it was really buggy.  I always ended up just using cadaver
[21:18] <hwilde> jrib, can't you just tell me the chmod command already
[21:18] <Darael> jrib: Never heard of it - sounds like an interesting fourth thing to try, thanks.
[21:18] <mezquitale> what filesystem is faster? im reinstalling ubuntu right now, i want to choose a fast filesystem, not interested in reliability
[21:18] <krysis> ext4 should be the best mezquitale
[21:18] <recon69_lap> actionparsnip: not that I noticed, but never found a temp reporting tool in ubuntu :)
[21:18] <krysis> for indexing and stoarge
[21:18] <shane2peru> jrib, aplay wavefile works like a charm, :)  simple, took me longer to find the wav file I wanted then to write the script. :)
[21:18] <jrib> hwilde: I could, but running recursive chmod commands you don't understand is a great way to break your box.  So take 2 minutes to read the wiki page instead
[21:18] <krysis> storage*
[21:18] <erUSUL> mezquitale: xfs
[21:19] <Darael> mezquitale: It depends on the sort of files you want to store and how you'll be using them.
[21:19] <yaaar> hey guys. i've got an ldap process starting on boot that i don't want (because it keeps my zimbra services from starting...zimbra has its own builtin ldap) and i'm wondering how to keep it from coming up on boot. normally i'd use update-rc.d, but in this case there doesn't seem to be a script for it in /etc/init.d/ ...so where do i configure this behavior?
[21:19] <actionparsnip> Mezquitale: ext4 or xfs are fast. They are all pretty quick though. Speed depends on the hardware really
[21:19] <yaaar> oh yeah, this is 8.04 lts server
[21:19] <mezquitale> krysis, ext4 is faster than reiserfs?
[21:20] <mezquitale> actionparsnip, so ext4 is more faster than reiserfs then?\
[21:20] <erUSUL> reiserfs is dying has little future
[21:20] <jrib> hwilde: anyway, if you want me to check your command before you run it, that's fine
[21:20] <actionparsnip> Mezquitale: i'd compare filesystems with real tests online in tests
[21:20] <krysis> mezquitale: http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix/447378-reiserfs-vs-ext3-vs-ext4.html
[21:21] <yaaar> erUSUL: thought it was mrs-reiserfs that was dying
[21:21] <kermit> how do i remove large and unused packages?
[21:21] <actionparsnip> Kermit: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[21:21] <erUSUL> yaaar: bad taste
[21:21] <hwilde> how to make a directory recursively read-only ?
[21:21] <DavidJHeinrich> yaaar: LOL @ that
[21:21] <bscape> is it possible to use wine-doors without gnome?
[21:22] <jken146> hwilde: chmod -R
[21:22] <xangua> bscape: it only uses gtk
[21:22] <kermit> actionparsnip: that part i know, how do i know what package names?
[21:22] <bscape> xangua: gotcha, thanks :)
[21:22] <actionparsnip> Hwilde: chmod -R 555 /path/to/folder
[21:22] <mezquitale> ext4 it is then
[21:22] <xangua> or that's what i believe :S
[21:22] <actionparsnip> Kermit: search software-center
[21:23] <Scrip> kermit : try sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[21:23] <macman__> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m23043699
[21:23] <BedMan> actionparsnip: that's a bad idea... instead use chmod -R ugo-w /path/to/folder
[21:23] <actionparsnip> Kermit: openoffice and gimp are quite chunky
[21:23] <bscape> xangua: no, i think you're right, lack of gtk was in the error message
[21:23] <DavidJHeinrich> i've been on EXT4 since upgrading to 9.04
[21:23] <actionparsnip> Bedman: its to be set read only so is + not -
[21:23] <erUSUL> macman__: can you take a look at /boot/grub/device.map ?
[21:23] <DavidJHeinrich> for all partitions I think, except maybe root
[21:23] <DavidJHeinrich> i mean, except boot
[21:24] <actionparsnip> Bedman; isn't it?
[21:24] <erUSUL> hwilde: chmod -R uog-r folder/
[21:24] <actionparsnip> Bedman: I'm doubting myselfnow
[21:24] <BedMan> actionparsnip: nope... -w
[21:24] <BedMan> that removes the WRITABLE flag
[21:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> Evening. Anyone need help?
[21:24] <BedMan> on owner group and world
[21:24] <kermit> actionparsnip: i don't see how software-center will tell me what packages are large and unused
[21:24] <actionparsnip> Bedman: gotcha, I always use the number system. Makes it r and x for all users :)
[21:24] <BedMan> but leaves readability and executable if it's set
[21:25] <erUSUL> hwilde: BedMan right is --> chmod -R uog-w folder/
[21:25] <Riverthief> Sup all
[21:25] <Riverthief> My laptop numpad will not work anymore :S
[21:25] <Viking667> hey all. I'm trying to find an older kernel from jaunty so I can use it on Karmic, but I can't see one at the website   nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/*.
[21:25] <Scrip> kermit : I said try sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[21:25] <Besogon> Hello! Does somebody know what is similar program to mspaint?
[21:25] <hwilde> erUSUL, why doesn't   a-w  work ?  I thought a was == uog
[21:25] <actionparsnip> Kermit: so you want the installed size of a package?
[21:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> Hey Riverthief. I hope you don't have anymore of those silly commands :P
[21:25] <BedMan> actionparsnip: you don't want to do that because it makes regular files (that were 644) have the wrong permission
[21:25] <helper> hey! how i can turn my wine audio? there's no audio work :(
[21:25] <macman__> erUSUL: i will look
[21:26] <kermit> actionparsnip: and when it was last used
[21:26] <actionparsnip> Kermit: uninstalling old kernels can save space too
[21:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> actionparsnip, I prefer the number system instead of letters.
[21:26] <erUSUL> hwilde: dunno
[21:26] <Riverthief> SpaceGhostC2C, nope haha
[21:26] <actionparsnip> Bedman: good point
[21:26] <Darael> I've been trying to mount a webDAV share, which I normally can only get to through a godsawful MS ISA server browser interface.  I can't get it to mount with gvfs (places->connect to server), but I can mount it with davfs2 or fusedav.  Problem is, if I use davfs2 it takes... well, more than half an hour to unmount (I restarted in the end) and if I use fusedav I can't unmount it at all.  Have tried cadaver as well as the graphical clients (davex
[21:26] <Viking667> When I head down releases/jaunty/main/binary-i386/, I get left with a Releases file, which isn't obviously what I want.
[21:26] <jken146> actionparsnip: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' | sort -nr | less
[21:26] <Riverthief> Where is the manual way to turn off function keys?
[21:26] <erUSUL> macman__: did you recently added a hd to the machine?
[21:26] <actionparsnip> Kermit: not sure there dude. I think software center says how used the package is too
[21:26] <Darael> Besogon: TuxPaint?
[21:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> Riverthief, unplug the keyboard, plug in plain keyboard:p
[21:27] <actionparsnip> Darael: tuxpaint is aweosme
[21:27] <mezquitale> Besogon, that's an easy one, use gimp
[21:27] <jrib> hwilde: my guess is test.txt exists already and you are just changing the times on it, in which case you don't need write permissions
[21:27] <Viking667> Whoops. Just found what i wanted in the pool directories
[21:27] <mttr> anyone using btrfs
[21:27] <jken146> actionparsnip: as for when they were last used, there's really no way to tell from dpkg. Just look at the names near the top of the list and see if there's anything you recognise and know you don't uer
[21:28] <recon69_lap> Besogon: whats wrong with gimp?
[21:28] <Besogon> Darael: tuxpaint has got tease interface
[21:28] <Riverthief> SpaceGhostC2C, on a laptop, lol
[21:28] <erUSUL> helper: run "winecfg" choose esd for audio
[21:28] <Besogon> recon69_lap: It's very big program. I don't need it
[21:28] <helper> erUSUL i try with this + not all application can be install with wine! is that normal ?
[21:28] <jken146> kermit: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' | sort -nr | less
[21:29] <Darael> Besogon: xpaint, mypaint, tkpaint or gpaint then?
[21:29] <SpaceGhostC2C> Riverthief, good point :P
[21:29] <erUSUL> helper: yes wine is not perfect
[21:29] <Darael> Besogon: Or maybe rgbpaint...
[21:29] <erUSUL> !appdb | helper
[21:29] <SpaceGhostC2C> Riverthief, skip step one then.
[21:29] <recon69_lap> Besogon: well, there is mypaint , but not much like mspaint
[21:29] <kermit> jken146: thanks
[21:29] <Riverthief> SpaceGhostC2C, done haha
[21:29] <helper> erUSUL is there any program like wine ? thx
[21:29] <Besogon> Darael: thanks I'll look at that
[21:30] <Darael> Besogon: D'you think six options plus tuxpaint is enough?  I can keep looking if you like, it's quite fun.
[21:30] <erUSUL> helper: appart of wine itself? no; there are two wine derivatives cedega an crossover office
[21:30] <Riverthief> helper, there are a few other compatibility layers, but wine is the only free one I know
[21:30] <helper> ah ok thx =)
[21:32] <macman__> erUSUL: i have no /boot/grub/devce.map
[21:32] <macman__> man .. ubuntu 8.10 was easier
[21:32] <erUSUL> macman__: :/
[21:33] <quizme> hey guys
[21:33] <macman__> erUSUL: but i have ubuntu installed on /dev/sda5 .. does that mean anything
[21:33] <quizme> i have a weird problem.
[21:33] <quizme> when i try to ssh into a server
[21:33] <macman__> erUSUL: i can mount it and everything
[21:33] <quizme> i keep getting "Connection closed by 74.208.11.211"
[21:33] <erUSUL> macman__: follow the instructions to recover grub outlined in the wiki
[21:33] <erUSUL> !grub2 | macman__
[21:33] <yaaar> hey guys. i'm on 8.04 lts server and i've got an ldap process starting on boot that i don't want (because it keeps my zimbra services from starting...zimbra has its own builtin ldap) and i'm wondering how to keep it from coming up on boot. normally i'd use update-rc.d, but in this case there doesn't seem to be a script for it in /etc/init.d/ ...so where do i configure this behavior?
[21:34] <quizme> but only for my linux box
[21:34] <quizme> i can ssh in from my windows box
[21:34] <quizme> anybody know why that's happening?
[21:34] <c001os> h iall
[21:34] <kermit> jken146: is there a way to show what depends on package too?
[21:35] <saji> !hi> c001os
[21:35] <plitter> how do i connect between 2 computers that has ubuntu?? i tried rightclicking and then share folder without having to have an account, but i still didnt find it on my other ubuntu computer. I used nautilus and just clicked on the network... and nothing came up there, which is weird because it usually finds windows computers on the network and i know the network was up and running...
[21:35] <metricpiano> how do I "Go to the Restricted Drivers Manager" ?? Can't find it
[21:35] <mlopezqc> yaaar: yes there must be
[21:35] <Viking667> Is there anything precluding the use of a 2.6.28.18 kernel on Karmic?
[21:35] <miranda_82> is there any rreasy why does /etc/rc.local not run at start?
[21:36] <macman__> i can't even install grub2
[21:36] <c001os> plitter, system>administration>restricted drivers
[21:36] <Viking667> I'm trying to find something I can run my 3D programs under without them falling over.
[21:36] <eeelumbella> hi there
[21:36] <mlopezqc> yaaar:  it is called slapd
[21:36] <eeelumbella> is there an alternative to pidgin and empathy for gnome?
[21:36] <jken146> kermit: apt-cache depends packagename
[21:36] <jibadeeha> anyone find their network manager icon is sometimes the sound icon or corrupt
[21:37] <plitter> c001os: isnt that just graphicsdrivers? at least that is what i get up...
[21:37] <eeelumbella> because pidgin has maaany processor-wakeups that are bad for my battery
[21:37] <Reemo> Hey guys, I'm trying to set up my DVB-T USB Stick (Terratec Cinergy DT XS Diversity) with 9.10. Did anyone go through that already? I'm not sure where to start. Is there a recommended TV application (other than totem?)
[21:37] <eeelumbella> and empathy lacks some important features i had in pidgin
[21:37] <wasutton3> about how long would it take for an old celeron to search 23,040 lines in a text file?
[21:37] <c001os> plitter, when avaible other restricted driver that shows you there
[21:38] <c001os> ... i thunk
[21:38] <c001os> think
[21:38] <erUSUL> wasutton3: how? grep pattern file ?
[21:38] <erUSUL> wasutton3: grep is pretty fast
[21:38] <wasutton3> erUSUL: i dont really know, its output from ping with date and time
[21:38] <c001os> grep is super fast :)
[21:38] <recon69_lap> Reemo: have you tried kaffeine
[21:38] <eeelumbella> or can i prevent pidgin from waking up my processor that often?
[21:38] <erUSUL> wasutton3: but what are you using to search?
[21:38] <j_ack> Reemo: me-tv
[21:39] <Reemo> recon69_lap, not yet, do i need the whole kde* stuff? I'm running an EeePC 701G so disk space is rare ;)
[21:39] <yaaar> mlopezqc: oh man...seems like i knew that once upon a time. thanks
[21:39] <wasutton3> erUSUL: i dont know yet, whatever is fastest and least complicated to do
[21:39] <erUSUL> wasutton3: use grep then
[21:39] <mlopezqc> yaaar: you are welcome
[21:39] <recon69_lap> Reemo: it's in the repo and works in gnome
[21:39] <j_ack> Reemo: me-tv is for gnome
[21:40] <wasutton3> erUSUL ok
[21:40] <cata> hi, I have recently installed a new cd/dvd-drive. Problem is it wont detect cds or if it does there is a 5+ minutes delay. What can I do??. I  just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 9.04. But problem remains.
[21:40] <kermit> how do i remove a single package?  when i try to remove some, apt-get says it's going to remove others too.
[21:40] <Reemo> great :) how about v4l-dvb in official repos. Is it outdated or can i stick with it?
[21:40] <jken146> kermit: why not let it remove the others?
[21:41] <kermit> jken146: because i want to keep them
[21:41] <metricpiano> where can I find Restricted Drivers?  It's not under System > Administration and I don't see anything in Software Center
[21:41] <escanfraga> Hi there!
[21:41] <erUSUL> metricpiano: for what hardware?
[21:41] <metricpiano> ATI
[21:41] <miranda_82> is anybody aware of a bug preventing /etc/rc.local to be run at boot?
[21:41] <macman__> erUSUL: is that the only way to fix grub .. can i fix grub via the install cd setup ?
[21:41] <erUSUL> metricpiano: how old?
[21:41] <jken146> kermit: If you remove a package on which another depends, the other won't work, so will be removed
[21:42] <jibadeeha> solved it ... turns out i needed to lock the notification panel and now the icon is no longer corrupt
[21:42] <jrib> miranda_82: no, but check bugs.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <erUSUL> macman__: no; im afraid not
[21:42] <jrib> miranda_82: (or ask the real question)
[21:42] <jken146> metricpiano: jockey-gtk
[21:43] <miranda_82> jrib, i asked before, but no one answered then i read this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/471266
[21:43] <metricpiano> 2003, hp with "blacklisted" ATI M22/24... I'm stumbling aroudn not understanding what I'm doing :)
[21:43] <genus> how do I install the gcc compiler?
[21:43] <erUSUL> metricpiano: ati fglrx is known to drop support for hardware pretty quickliy
[21:44] <erUSUL> metricpiano: probably you have to use the free radeon driver
[21:44] <erUSUL> genus: install build-essential package
[21:44] <genus> thanks
[21:44] <Reemo> j_ack, how stable is me-tv? its not yet in official repositories, is it?
[21:44] <Reemo> recon69_lap, just checked it, needs a whole bunch of kde libs... but thanks
[21:45] <wiiguy> question, i have a old laptop with ubuntu 5.10 on it how can i make it detect mine wireless usb ?
[21:45] <Toink> Hello!   Does anyone build installation CD images with integrated updated packages, and if not, why not?
[21:45] <jrib> !5.10 | wiiguy
[21:45] <wiiguy> !eol
[21:45] <jken146> Toink: What do you mean?
[21:46] <metricpiano> wiiguy: lucid recognized my wireless... you might have better luck with a newer version (karmic did not)
[21:46] <Toink> jken146, I mean, if I were to install ubuntu karmic right now, I'll probably have to download tens of megabytes of updates.  Can't these be integrated into an .iso so that I get a fresh system out of the box?
[21:47] <MuffinPimp> yeah I always wondered why ubuntu did that
[21:47] <jken146> Toink: You can get a netinstall ISO(about 10 MB) that downloads the latest packages during the installation
[21:47] <Toink> mmkay
[21:47] <jken146> Toink: they do update the live CDs for the LTS releases
[21:48] <Toink> i see
[21:48] <jken146> Toink: but for normal releases they just don't bother; almost all effort goes into the next release
[21:49] <klappi> Toink: if youre lucky you get a jigdo link as shown here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JigdoDownloadHowto
[21:50] <Darael> I've been trying to mount a webDAV share, which I normally can only get to through a godsawful MS ISA server browser interface.  I can't get it to mount with gvfs (places->connect to server), but I can mount it with davfs2 or fusedav.  Problem is, if I use davfs2 it takes... well, more than half an hour to unmount (I restarted in the end) and if I use fusedav I can't unmount it at all.  Have tried cadaver as well as the graphical clients (davex
[21:50] <metricpiano> anyone want to come hand-hold in the #ubuntu-beginner channel?  Mainly about graphics cards and drivers... I'm so confused!
[21:51] <bobbytek> anyone have a clue on how to intstall nemesis?
[21:51] <EinoVirtanen> I can't open World of Warcraft through wine, can someone check this error report if there is some newbie mistake that I've made? http://pastebin.com/d56f8af6f
[21:52] <archboxman> metricpiano: confused about what???
[21:52] <archboxman> EinoVirtanen: TRY playonlinux :)
[21:52] <recon69_lap> metricpiano: well, first thing is what video card you got?
[21:52] <Rubyiris> Would someone be able to explain to me why even though ubuntu is advertised to run basic programs, and even some games faster than windows, ubuntu actually runs significantly slower? Also would someone be able to help me improve my performance?
[21:53] <mleger> hello: may I ask a question regarding a ubuntu application here? more specifically, gnome-do? If not, is there a chat room I can get help on this app? Thanks!
[21:53] <artistx> Hello all
[21:53] <klappi> EinoVirtanen: try wine "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe" -opengl
[21:53] <EinoVirtanen> Rubyiris where have ubuntu been advertised to run windows games faster than windows itself? :o url!
[21:53] <EinoVirtanen> klappi okay
[21:53] <archboxman> metricpiano: accessiories > terminal > type lspci
[21:54] <archboxman> metricpiano: better yet lspci | more
[21:54] <MuffinPimp> Ohhh
[21:54] <Rubyiris> It's been advertised to do so on alot of websites. It's not like I've taken the liberty to memorize them. Use googlefu.
[21:54] <EinoVirtanen> oh silly me Hardware Drivers had a window open that suggests me to reboot the computer for the drivers to work properly :D
[21:54] <Kibby> anyone know a great mp3/aac tagging software for linux?
[21:54] <xangua> !ask | mleger
[21:54] <metricpiano> what amd I looking for in lspci?
[21:54] <lekefly> Anyone using DynDNS?
[21:54] <EinoVirtanen> Rubyiris yeah that is pretty common "it has been advertised" and the next thing people say "well I dont remember exactly where" etc
[21:55] <archboxman> metricpiano: video card you will see it
[21:55] <EinoVirtanen> Rubyiris I've seen cannabis advertised as a drug equally lethal with heroin :O
[21:55] <Rubyiris> I've seen it on -SEVERAL- websites.
[21:55] <xangua> if no one can help you here you can go to do's channel mleger: #gnome-do
[21:55] <Darael> lekefly: I am, what's up?
[21:55] <EinoVirtanen> ofc you have
[21:55] <lekefly> Anyone using DynDNS? at the end of the config file should it contain myhost.dynds.org ?
[21:55] <lekefly> Darael
[21:55] <archboxman> metricpiano: nvidia, ati or intel??
[21:55] <Rubyiris> But thats not important.
[21:55] <lekefly> Im using ddclient
[21:56] <Danbo19> can anyone tell me why I get an error while updating? It usually says a certain repository is not found... specifically: "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net//ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found"
[21:56] <archboxman> metricpiano: do you know how to pastbine?????
[21:56] <Darael> lekefly: Umm... I'm using a client built into my router, so I don't actually know about ddclient, sorry.
[21:56] <tsimpson> lekefly: it's whatever hostname you registered
[21:56] <mleger> Thanks. Gnome-do seems to run fine if I launch it manually after startup, but if I load it as part of my startup applications it hangs and generally takes up 100% of the cpu and freezes. Anyone familiar with this issue and a possible fix? I tested removing all plugins and still happens. And it happens sporadically
[21:56] <metricpiano>  this? ATI Technologies Inc M24 1P [Radeon Mobility
[21:56] <metricpiano> X600]
[21:56] <urlwallace> does ubuntu slowdown with too many temp files?
[21:56] <lekefly> tsimpson okey.. since it was not created there auto.. so i could edit it in then.. ?
[21:57] <Rubyiris> Would someone be able to explain to me why even though ubuntu is advertised to run basic programs, and even some games faster than windows, ubuntu actually runs significantly slower? Also would someone be able to help me improve my performance? <- reposting because people got off-track and didn't actully bother to help.
[21:57] <actionParsnip> urlwallace: if it makes your hdd reach capacity then yes
[21:57] <xangua> mleger: add the gnome do repository (a.k.a. ppa)
[21:57] <archboxman> metricpiano: I dont have a Ati card anyone can help with ati card install?? for metricpiano
[21:57] <curtmack> I think the universe build of python-poker2d is broken, it says there's a module missing and google searches turn up nothing.
[21:57] <metricpiano> archboxman: no I don't know what pastbine is
[21:57] <Danbo19> mleger: I had the same problem w/ gnome-do, I re-installed it and it very rarely happens now, I'm pretty sure there is a bug report for it on their launchpad.
[21:57] <curtmack> Rubyiris: Are you using wine?
[21:57] <urlwallace> what is the command to clear cpu slowing down files?
[21:57] <actionParsnip> Rubyiris: drivers or settings in the game, if the game is running via wine there can be slowdown, games made for linux run great
[21:57] <mleger> xangua: will do and will see if an updated version is available.
[21:57] <Rubyiris> I am.
[21:57] <klappi> Rubyiris: your question is quite generic what application is slow?
[21:57] <llutz> Rubyiris: ".. ubuntu is advertised to run basic programs, and even some games faster than windows,.." who told you that nonsense?
[21:57] <Viking667> I think I've got a weird bug here... On a 2.6.28 or 2.6.30 (on Karmic) I have a process starting from init called modem-manager. It opens the serial card, then tries to close the serial port, and stops dead. The only way I can stop it is the three finger salute...
[21:57] <truthtaco> hello, trying to fix my video issues, trying to get the open source driver to work properly. Ive went to this page and tied configuring my card https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver but that hasen't helped. (also made sure there were no conflicting drivers)
[21:58] <Viking667> doesn't happen with 2.6.31 kernels.
[21:58] <archboxman> metricpiano:  its ok you need to ask the room to help install ati video card
[21:58] <jpds> Danbo19: Ask the person in charge of the PPA, PPA's are not supported on Ubuntu.
[21:58] <macman_> sheesh it didn't fix my grub
[21:58] <actionParsnip> Rubyiris: some commercial games have native installers for linux and usually run better than windows
[21:58] <tsimpson> lekefly: yes
[21:58] <macman_> erUSUL: normally my error is grub erro 15 mine is 17
[21:58] <curtmack> Viking667: ...So use 2.6.31?
[21:58] <macman_> grub stated it installed fine
[21:58] <Rubyiris> Alot of applications are slow. Firefox slows to an absolute crawl if I have even a total of three tabs open. A problem I don't have on windows.
[21:58] <actionParsnip> Rubyiris: you are running a windows game on not windows so slowdown canbe expected
[21:58] <metricpiano> archboxman: I'm trying... I don't know what to ask!
[21:58] <erUSUL> Viking667: sounds like a kernel bug
[21:58] <Anden21> hi
[21:58] <Rubyiris> I'm not specifically asking for game help damnit. Learn to read.
[21:58] <macman_> erUSUL: should i just reinstall ?
[21:58] <urlwallace> thanks action
[21:59] <actionParsnip> Rubyiris: same applys to any app
[21:59] <orudie> пиздец подкрался незаметна
[21:59] <archboxman> metricpiano: system > administration > hardware drivers? see if the computer already has a driver selected for you to install...
[21:59] <Danbo19> jpds: really? I was unaware of that. Thanks.
[21:59] <macman_> erUSUL: i think its a bios thing
[21:59] <Rubyiris> Then why is ubuntu advertised to run basic apps, and -some- non linux games faster than windows?
[21:59] <Rubyiris> :|
[21:59] <xangua> run basic apps¿¿
[22:00] <metricpiano> sys > adm > h.drivers has ONLY the wireless broadcom driver, I see no other driver or option or anything
[22:00] <Rubyiris> music programs, firefox, etc.
[22:00] <lekefly> tsimpson is there a way i can make it update now?
[22:00] <truthtaco> Rubyiris, where did you see that?
[22:00] <Darael> Rubyiris: It's not advertised at all!  However, if people suggest it does it's probably because /in/ /their/ /experience/ it, does!
[22:00] <llutz> Rubyiris: ".. ubuntu is advertised to run basic programs, and even some games faster than windows,.." who told you that nonsense?
[22:00] <Rubyiris> use your googlefu, truthtaco.
[22:00] <tsimpson> lekefly: you can do that manually from the dyndns website
[22:00] <Rubyiris> darael, it's advertised all over the internet. use your googlefu.
[22:01] <jken146> Rubyiris: you are making a claim. *You* should cite some evidence
[22:01] <Rubyiris> llutz, it's everywhere to be honest. use your googlefu.
[22:01] <macman_> haha
[22:01] <macman_> it was the bios
[22:01] <llutz> Rubyiris: it's called "fanboy-blabla" and now pls troll off
[22:01] <macman_> 0_o
[22:01] <maco> Rubyiris: thats not advertising, thats random people saying *in their experience* it does
[22:01] <archboxman> Can someone help metricpiano install a ati driver for his video card to work????
[22:01] <Rubyiris> I'm not trolling, llutz.
[22:01] <maco> Rubyiris: do you see it anywhere on http://ubuntu.com ? no? didnt think so
[22:01] <llutz> you are
[22:01] <DavidJHeinrich> I have this sound card from my old computer, supposed to be PCI, ut it has 3 tabs...my PCI slots on the motherboard look like only has 1 long & a short slot...will this work with PCI slot? http://www.esaitech.com/commerce/ccp17878-creative-labs-sound-blaster-32-bit-pci-sound-card-ct4870-17878.htm
[22:01] <Darael> Rubyiris: It's not advertised - it's advocated.  That's not the same thing at all.
[22:01] <Rubyiris> I'm not.
[22:01] <truthtaco> so your suggesting that "someone" "somewhere" on google advertised that.....and now your mad that this random source was wrong?
[22:01] <archboxman> !ati
[22:01] <DavidJHeinrich> (I don't want to force it and damage the mobo)
[22:01] <klappi> Rubyiris: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ubuntu+fast&word2=windows+fast
[22:01] <maco> Rubyiris: only what is on http://ubuntu.com is the official advertised stats of it
[22:01] <Rubyiris> I came in asking for help and i'm suddenly trolling?
[22:02] <Rubyiris> what bullshit.
[22:02] <kaell> I'm having a problem with sound on Ubuntu.  It was working before I installed updates and rebooted, most of the time (I'd have to exit out of firefox for it to work in games, etc).  Now it doesn't work at all.  Any help?
[22:02] <kaell> Ubuntu 9.10
[22:02] <erUSUL> macman_: can youtake a look at grub configuration files?
[22:02] <jken146> !sound | kaell
[22:02] <maco> Rubyiris: that firefox is slower on ubuntu than windows is a known issue
[22:03] <Rubyiris> by slower, it's like a damned snail.
[22:03] <maco> Rubyiris: supposedly firefox in wine on ubuntu is 2x as fast as native firefox
[22:03] <maco> Rubyiris: because mozilla does special tricks when they compile firefox for windows
[22:03] <OerHeks> disable IP6 in firefox, that speeds up !
[22:03] <DavidJHeinrich> any help with making sure my old "PCI" sound-card will fit in my mobo?
[22:03] <xangua> ip6 or ipv6 OerHeks¿¿
[22:03] <maco> Rubyiris: by in-wine, i mean, the windows version in wine is faster than the native linux version
[22:03] <Rubyiris> hm.
[22:03] <truthtaco> hello, trying to fix my video issues, trying to get the open source driver to work properly. Ive went to this page and tied configuring my card https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver but that hasen't helped. (also made sure there were no conflicting drivers)
[22:03] <maco> OerHeks: that'll just get rid of the dns timeout...
[22:03] <Rubyiris> brb i'll give that a try.
[22:03] <DavidJHeinrich> it looks the right length, but has 3 tabs (2 short, 1 long), my mobo slot has 2 tabs, 1 long 1 short
[22:04] <curtmack> Rubyiris: Besides that, different computers can run the exact same program (in this case, operating system) at vastly different speed just because of how computers work.
[22:04] <aropupu> Rubyiris: out-of-the-box ubuntu is probably slower than something like winxp, sure
[22:04] <kaell> thanks jken146, it's working now, though I'm not sure what i did ><
[22:04] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: are you sure its not like PCIE1 or PCIE16?
[22:04] <ubuntu_> je cherche de l'aide pour installer ubuntu !
[22:04] <curtmack> It's not necessarily that other people are lying, it's that you have a different computer and therefore a different experience.
[22:04] <Rubyiris> it's slower than vista.
[22:04] <erUSUL> !fr | ubuntu_
[22:04] <Rubyiris> :|
[22:04] <curtmack> But yeah, the firefox thing is known.
[22:04] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: no, this is from an old Gateway desktop, like 2002 or 2001 even
[22:04] <jken146> kaell: That is always the way with linux sound
[22:04] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: check the appdb incase you need extra settings
[22:04] <erUSUL> Rubyiris: you will have to give details of the setup and thngs you tried and what failed/is slow
[22:05] <metricpiano> klappi & archboxman:  been doing that and trying to understand... I've got ATI catylist control center, and it says open "Restricted Driver Manager" which I don't have, I've done the Compiz-check and I don't even know what that is... I have the latest jockey-gtk apparently... I still don't know if I need to do more, or less or what...
[22:05] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: you can always add the wine repo to get a newer build
[22:05] <curtmack> I can't play the Sands of Time trilogy on this computer because the mouse controls are inverted horizontally.
[22:05] <curtmack> I don't know why and it completely stumped Ubisoft's support.
[22:05] <erUSUL> Rubyiris: until that you are trolling like llutz said
[22:05] <Rubyiris> whats wine repo?
[22:05] <actionParsnip1> curtmack: theres a wine hack for that
[22:05] <Rubyiris> I'm not fucking trolling, god dan.
[22:05] <Rubyiris> =\
[22:05] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: websearch and you will find it
[22:05] <maco> Rubyiris: dont swear
[22:05] <actionParsnip1> !ohmy | Rubyiris
[22:05] <llutz> even worse, trolls are funny sometimes
[22:05] <maco> and will you all please *listen* to Rubyiris instead of running your mouths?
[22:05] <Rubyiris> Then don't treat me like trash, then?
[22:05] <curtmack> Rubyiris: winehq.org
[22:05] <erUSUL> Rubyiris: the say what is going so slow in what machine and with what configuration/set up
[22:06] <curtmack> on the download page, it has Ubuntu installation instructions
[22:06] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: it is the Creative SB CT4870 -- http://www.esaitech.com/commerce/ccp17878-creative-labs-sound-blaster-32-bit-pci-sound-card-ct4870-17878.htm
[22:06] <maco> native firefox is slow. this i a known issue. wine +win32firefox is a known work around
[22:06] <klappi> metricpiano: you are the wow guy? you need to have you gfx driver working descently first, try with a linux opengl game and then run wow in opengl mode as i have shown you
[22:06] <metricpiano> i am not the wow guy
[22:06] <maco> erUSUL: Rubyiris said that native firefox is slow
[22:06] <Anden21> Hey, how do I sort out read-only sectors on my hard disk
[22:06] <erUSUL> maco: ok; ty
[22:06] <metricpiano> how do i tell if my gfx driver is working decently?
[22:06] <maco> erUSUL: so i suggested windows firefox + wine because that is twice as fast
[22:06] <actionParsnip1> maco: i think its slow
[22:07] <erUSUL> Anden21: with badblocks or the -ck option to fsck
[22:07] <curtmack> actionParsnip1: The horizontal mouse control thing is on native Windows.
[22:07] <Anden21> ok ty
[22:07] <xeco> boa noite
[22:07] <actionParsnip1> curtmack: then i'd ask in ##windows
[22:07] <erUSUL> !br | xeco
[22:07] <curtmack> I wasn't asking, I was giving an example for Rubyiris
[22:07] <actionParsnip1> curtmack: make sure the game is fully updated
[22:07] <xeco> preciso de ajuda para deletar uma impressora instalada aqui
[22:07] <klappi> metricpiano: glxinfo | grep "direct render" should show "yes"
[22:07] <archboxman> metricpiano: found a website for you to follow directions :) to install graphics card :)
[22:07] <xeco> alguem pode me ajudar?
[22:07] <maco> actionParsnip1: there were some benchmarks a while ago saying firefox in wine was faster. i talked to someone at uds barcelona about it. its because the windows build is profiled and the linux one isnt. this person was working on getting profiled builds of FF and OOo (I think?) for ubuntu
[22:08] <Rubyiris> how do i check the "appdb"?
[22:08] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: does this look like a PCI? http://www.esaitech.com/commerce/catalog/showpic.jsp?product_id=17878&czuid=1265320839917
[22:08] <jken146> Rubyiris: using FF 3.6 (there is a ppa for karmic) might help, as might various tweaks like disabling ipv6
[22:08] <erUSUL> Rubyiris: is a webpage
[22:08] <curtmack> of how the same game running on different systems can have different results
[22:08] <erUSUL> !appdb | Rubyiris
[22:08] <curtmack> or the same program
[22:08] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: i dont know. i dont play with hardware much
[22:08] <DavidJHeinrich> ahh
[22:08] <Reemo> Hey guys, i have a quite special question regarding what linux (in general) can do with fat32. You probably heard about conficker spreading via autorun.inf on portable media. Is there a way to lock this specific file so there is no way to overwrite it (like armoring the usb stick against the virus)?
[22:08] <actionParsnip1> maco: interesting stuff duder. truly staggering
[22:08] <DavidJHeinrich> anyone ave any idea?
[22:08] <actionParsnip1> maco: i use chromium daily now, kicks ass lots
[22:08] <klappi> metricpiano: then you can try if glxgears runs and wath the framerate i get 40833 for example
[22:08] <metricpiano> klappi: it says no and to set LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[22:09] <Rubyiris> and wehats ipv6?
[22:09] <Rubyiris> whats*
[22:09] <metricpiano> archboxman: I've been following websites but I'm willing to try another ... what is it?
[22:09] <klappi> metricpiano: what is the model of your card?
[22:09] <archboxman> klappi: what about this ???  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168263.html
[22:09] <curtmack> anyway, actual question: universe build of python-poker2d says that the module _pokerinterface2_6 is missing and google searching hasn't turned up anything
[22:09] <maco> Rubyiris: ipv4 is the current version of the Internet Protocol
[22:09] <maco> Rubyiris: you've seen IP addresses like 192.168.1.102?
[22:09] <metricpiano> ATI M22/M24
[22:09] <Rubyiris> Yes.
[22:10] <maco> Rubyiris: thats not enough addresses for the whole world, so IPv6 is the new version that will hold many more
[22:10] <Viking667> The reason I don't want to use 2.6.31 is because it keeps killing 3D programs. That's why I'm looking for something earlier
[22:10] <archboxman> metricpiano: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168263.html
[22:10] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
[22:10] <hss> hi guys im trying to make ati binary drivers to deb its give me 1 error can anyone help ?
[22:10] <DavidJHeinrich> ahhh, I see, looks like I have a universal PCI card: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PCI_Keying.png
[22:10] <macman_> grub2 is crazy
[22:10] <Darael> I've been trying to mount a webDAV share, which I normally can only get to through a godsawful MS ISA server browser interface.  I can't get it to mount with gvfs (places->connect to server), but I can mount it with davfs2 or fusedav.  Problem is, if I use davfs2 it takes... well, more than half an hour to unmount (I restarted in the end) and if I use fusedav I can't unmount it at all.  Have tried cadaver as well as the graphical clients (davex
[22:10] <Rubyiris> does the wiki explain how to disable it?
[22:10] <Rubyiris> >_>
[22:10] <maco> Rubyiris: most stuff is currently on IPv4 but those are expected to run out by 2012 so there's migration to IPv6 as a replacement
[22:10] <DavidJHeinrich> set up to work in 3.3 & 5V PCI slots
[22:10] <actionParsnip1> macman_: its very strange indeed
[22:10] <metricpiano> archboxman: thanks... consider me afk for a bit.
[22:10] <sudobash> hey I just got a new laptop with ATI HD 4200 integrated graphics and I installed Ubuntu 9.10 next to Windows 7 should I use the Restricted Drivers in the Hardware Drivers section or download the latest ati graphics driver from the website?>
[22:10] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: no, i thought you were asking what it was
[22:11] <archboxman> metricpiano: wait question???
[22:11] <erUSUL> sudobash: the former
[22:11] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: you can add it in /etc/default/grub
[22:11] <maco> Rubyiris: if you want to turn off IPv6 DNS lookups in firefox, type "about:config" into the firefox address bar
[22:11] <metricpiano> archboxman: yeah?
[22:11] <klappi> metricpiano: i have nvidia sorry
[22:11] <maco> Rubyiris: turning off DNS lookups will *only* affect how much time between you hitting enter and it starting to download the webpage. if switching tabs is slow, it has no effect on that
[22:11] <Rubyiris> i can add what?
[22:11] <archboxman> metricpiano: do you know how to use gedit or vi??? to edit script???
[22:11] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1281820.html
[22:11] <hss> sudobash, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:11] <Rubyiris> Oh alright.
[22:11] <sudobash> so that will be the best with FGLRX
[22:11] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: its also an option in firefox (if you use it)
[22:11] <metricpiano> archboxman: ye
[22:12] <metricpiano> s
[22:12] <cowguru2000> Hey all, I'm having trouble with my sound. It won't work altogether for some applications, and for others it is "laggy." I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. Can someone please help me?
[22:12] <sudobash> compiz fusion
[22:12] <erUSUL> metricpiano: told you your card is probably to old for the restricted ati drivers and you have to use radeon free driver (that is installed and used by default)
[22:12] <archboxman> metricpiano: ok good luck on that wesite
[22:12] <hss> yea im trying to install with those method but looks like something wrong :)
[22:12] <archboxman> erUSUL: what about this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168263.html for metricpiano
[22:12] <oktek> hi all, i have a question about graphic library under console mode (i've got a pc running ubuntu with console only, i would like to display 2 simple images), could you give me some tips on what library i could use ? You know like anaconda ?
[22:12] <Toink> Does it make any sense to install Netbook Remix instead of Desktop on an eee pc if I'm going to use classic menus anyway?
[22:12] <ccraze> What's that Ubuntu program called that can write a new model number to a HDD?
[22:13] <erUSUL> oktek: vgalib ?
[22:13] <artistx> It is my first time to see Artistix , men I am blown away pls Thank all the people for me a Billion times thx
[22:13] <Darael> Alternative method of resolving the problem with ipv6 lookups in Firefox: get an ipv6 tunnel!
[22:13] <Dobigeon> test !
[22:13] <actionParsnip1> Toink: define "classic menus"?
[22:13] <MeGaPk> Hello people, how increased desktop in netbook remix (used crtl+alt+delete)?
[22:13] <jbwiv> can someone point me to where I can change the default editor and pdf viewer for gnome?
[22:13] <erUSUL> !find vgalib
[22:13] <oktek> thx erUSUL, i try to see
[22:14] <cowguru2000> !find audacity
[22:14] <maco> Rubyiris: in the about:config screen you can search for ipv6
[22:14] <actionParsnip1> Toink: if you are just gonna switch to classic desktop you may as well download the desktop ISO
[22:14] <actionParsnip1> Toink: its a smaller initial download
[22:14] <archboxman> MeGaPk: what is your question??? not sure what your asking??
[22:14] <maco> Rubyiris: one is network.dns.disableIPv6 .. youd set that to true
[22:14] <Toink> actionParsnip1, is there less software preinstalled?
[22:14] <Viking667> And, why does the Gnome sound applet PERSIST in muting my sound volumes on BOTH my sound cards?
[22:14] <ZykoticK9> jbwiv, open Nautilus right click on a textfile and/or PDF click Preperties and go to the "Open With" tab
[22:14] <jken146> Toink: the kernel might be different for netbooks (check this, I'm not sure)
[22:15] <actionParsnip1> Toink: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[22:15] <erUSUL> !find zvg
[22:15] <actionParsnip1> Toink: depends which flavour you use
[22:15] <Viking667> It's frankly really really annoying to have to pump up the volume 95% of the time
[22:15] <Toink> actionParsnip1, flavour?
[22:15] <MeGaPk> archboxman: i bad know english.... all know, crtl+alt+ left or right....
[22:15] <actionParsnip1> Toink: XUbuntu will use less, you can use the minimal ISO to only install what you require
[22:15] <metricpiano> archboxman:  ok, so I tried to vi xorg.conf and there is no such file in /etc/X11... (eg. it comes up blank and ls does not show it either)
[22:15] <cowguru2000> Hey all, I'm having trouble with my sound. It won't work altogether for some applications, and for others it is "laggy." I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. Can someone please help me?
[22:15] <Toink> actionParsnip1, I see
[22:15] <actionParsnip1> Toink: KUbuntu, Ubuntu, XUbuntu or LUbuntu'
[22:16] <jbwiv> ZykoticK9, great, thanks
[22:16] <auska1714> hi!
[22:16] <Viking667> metricpiano: sounds like it's using defaults then.
[22:16] <40FAABZGW> hi folks; how do i get my bluetooth headphones working on ubuntu 9.10?  they are already paired and headphones service is connected via bluetooth icon
[22:16] <Toink> jken146, I believe 'generic' kernels are used for netbooks
[22:16] <archboxman> metricpiano:locate xorg | more
[22:16] <auska1714> my computer says that it's using aproximetly the 50% of the CPU, is that normal?
[22:16] <erUSUL> !find zgv
[22:16] <archboxman> metricpiano: find the folder location :)
[22:17] <jbwiv> ZykoticK9, what about changing all scripts (.rb, .py, pl, .sh, etc) to open in gVim instead of gEdit
[22:17] <MeGaPk> archboxman: how in netbook remix increased desktop (in crtl+alt left or right)
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> jbwiv, you'd probably have to do that on an extension by extension basis
[22:17] <jbwiv> ZykoticK9, ugh...that sucks
[22:18] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: run: top    what is chewing the cpu?
[22:18] <Darael> jbwiv: ZykoticK9 isn't quite right - system->preferences->default applications would let you change the default plain-text editor - I /think/
[22:18] <protojay> .nick encoded
[22:19] <erUSUL> Darael: nope just checked :(
[22:19] <archboxman> MeGaPk: there is no increase desktop for a netbook that is why we have magnifer to see what you are looking at and that is why people use Netbook remixes to use the desktop relistate the best you can...
[22:19] <auska1714> sorry actionParsnip1 what i have tho run?
[22:19] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: top      like I said
[22:19] <Darael> erUSUL: Oh, whoops.  Never mind, just ignore me then.
[22:19] <metricpiano> archboxman: there are a few xorg directories but no xorg.conf file (locate xorg.conf:
[22:19] <metricpiano> /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz)
[22:19] <metricpiano> same results with | grep "xorg.conf"
[22:20] <infid> i changed /usr/share/applications/gvim.desktop from 'Exec=gvim -f %F' to 'Exec=gvim --remote %F', which works fine on my desktop running ubuntu, but not my laptop running ubuntu. I restart gvim and the change is still there but when it's not lauching with my new change. any idea why?
[22:20] <archboxman> metricpiano: hold on should be in /etc/xorg hold on
[22:20] <jbwiv> Darael, I thought so too, but under Karmic, it doesn't. Just Browser, Email, Music Player, Terminal Emulator, and Accessibility options
[22:20] <ikonia>  /etc/X11
[22:20] <infid> *restarted gdm i meant
[22:20] <auska1714> actionParsnip1, http://pastebin.com/m195a9d48
[22:20] <zoug> did a kernel update and xorg.conf washed. no drivers. how to prevent that?
[22:20] <jken146> jbwiv: It'll be buried somewhere in gconf
[22:20] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: Cpu(s):  5.1%us looks fine to me
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> Darael, are you using Karmic?  i don't have a "default applications", I have a "preferred application" but no reference to text files...
[22:20] <ikonia> zoug: kernel is nothing to do with the xorg.conf file
[22:21] <zoug> ikonia, my nvidia drivers were gone
[22:21] <Darael> ZykoticK9: Yeah, just ignore me - it used to be there but having actually checked on my kermic box it seems to have gone.
[22:21] <actionParsnip1> zoug: keep a copy someplace else and copy in afterwards is a workaround until you find out how
[22:21] <infid> nm i figured it out
[22:21] <mneptok> zoug: i'm guessing you installed the nVidia proprietary drivers?
[22:21] <ikonia> zoug: what do you mean "gone" a kernel update will not touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:21] <auska1714> on the dock, gnome do shows 50% :S
[22:21] <auska1714> oqs then its oq
[22:21] <auska1714> thanks ;)
[22:22] <zoug> actionParsnip1, okay..
[22:22] <archboxman> metricpiano: try /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:22] <zoug> mneptok, yeah from envyng
[22:22] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: you do know that compiz and gnome-do are taking 10% of your ram
[22:22] <zoug> ikonia, but it did..
[22:22] <ikonia> zoug: no - it didn't, that must have been another update
[22:22] <mneptok> zoug: you have to reinstall the nVidia drivers every time there is a kernel update. those drivers build against the currently running kernel.
[22:22] <metricpiano> archboxman: thre is no such thing here is my ls of /etc/X11: app-defaults             fonts    xinit       Xsession          Xwrapper.config
[22:22] <metricpiano> cursors                  rgb.txt  xkb         Xsession.d
[22:22] <metricpiano> default-display-manager  X        Xresources  Xsession.options
[22:22] <auska1714> ups! i didn't know it
[22:23] <cowguru2000> Hey all, I'm having trouble with my sound. It won't work altogether for some applications, and for others it is "laggy." I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. Can someone please help me?
[22:23] <erUSUL> zoug: everytime you upgrade the kernel you have to reinstall the nvidia kernel module ....
[22:23] <zoug> mneptok, ah, il keep that in mind
[22:23] <auska1714> i will look about what to do
[22:23] <auska1714> thanks
[22:23] <zoug> thanks all!
[22:23] <archboxman> metricpiano: is this a livecd???
[22:23] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: its one reason why i dont use it
[22:23] <metricpiano> no it's Lucid 10.4 installed
[22:24] <metricpiano> and updated
[22:24] <archboxman> hmmm hold on
[22:24] <actionParsnip1> !lucid | metricpiano
[22:24] <auska1714> actionParsnip1, it's possible use gnome do with out compiz?
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> auska1714, i don't think so
[22:25] <auska1714> sh%&!
[22:25] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: gnomedo needs compositing (kde does compositing on its own afaik) but you need compiz to run gnomedo under gnome
[22:25] <metricpiano> I know but Karmic doesn't recognize my wireless adaptor and I got sick of working on it, under Lucid it works.
[22:26] <auska1714> well, i will look for somthing diferent then hehe
[22:26] <actionParsnip1> metricpiano: its fine to use it its just not supported in this channel
[22:27] <metricpiano> k, no prob I'll try #ubuntu+1
[22:27] <actionParsnip1> metricpiano: i use lucid myself
[22:28] <archboxman> metricpiano: should think about another distro that supports both lucid is in a alpha 2 vase and is not released till april... good luck :)
[22:29] <metricpiano> archboxman: thanks for your help
[22:29] <Darael> I've been trying to mount a webDAV share, which I normally can only get to through a godsawful MS ISA server browser interface.  I can't get it to mount with gvfs (places->connect to server), but I can mount it with davfs2 or fusedav.  Problem is, if I use davfs2 it takes... well, more than half an hour to unmount (I restarted in the end) and if I use fusedav I can't unmount it at all.  Have tried cadaver as well as the graphical clients (davex
[22:29] <archboxman> no problem
[22:30] <j_m_williams> I am wanting to build ubuntu packages from source does anyone know of a good tutorial
[22:30] <arooni-mobile> hi folks; how do i get my bluetooth headphones working on ubuntu 9.10?  they are already paired and headphones service is connected via bluetooth icon
[22:30] <actionParsnip1> Darael: http://samiux.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/howto-webdav-on-ubuntu-9-04-server/
[22:31] <archboxman> metricpiano: if your trying to get the latest and greatest to work your going to need a rolling release distro or just wait till april for support :)
[22:31] <CyL> Is there a way to automatically disable the computer's touchpad everytime a mouse is inserted?
[22:31] <Darael> actionParsnip1: I don't administrate the share.
[22:32] <Xpistos|work> Hey everyone
[22:32] <j_m_williams> Anyone? I am wanting to build ubuntu packages from source does anyone know of a good tutorial
[22:32] <CrashOverride> hey guys
[22:32] <CrashOverride> !sources > j_m_williams
[22:32] <actionParsnip1> Darael: try cadaver
[22:33] <j_m_williams> thanks!
[22:33] <Xpistos|work> j_m_williams: Linux reality had a good episode about compiling from source
[22:33] <CrashOverride> No problem
[22:33] <CrashOverride> :)
[22:33] <Darael> actionParsnip1: It's a client, but it won't let me mount it which is what I'm really after.
[22:33] <actionParsnip1> Darael: sudo cadaver http://servername
[22:33] <CrashOverride> !sources > CrashOverride
[22:33] <CrashOverride> ^_^
[22:33] <actionParsnip1> Darael: is this what you meant earlier: Go to “Place” > “Connect to Server“. Select “WebDAV (HTTP)“. Enter the IP of your WebDAV server and then press “Connect“. Submit the username and password. An icon will be displayed on your desktop. Double click it and go.
[22:34] <archboxman> lol ubottu
[22:34] <actionParsnip1> Darael: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202761
[22:34] <Darael> actionParsnip1: If you reread my original question, that was the first thing I tried.  It don't work.
[22:34] <CyL> Does ubuntu has any applet to deal with the disable touchpad button on the keyboard?
[22:34] <archboxman> !bot
[22:34] <joel___> .
[22:34] <CrashOverride> !bot > ubottu
[22:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> Don't play with the bot please.
[22:35] <Darael> actionParsnip1: davfs was the second thing I tried, but it takes a very long time indeed to unmount.  So long that I've never actually seen it complete.
[22:35] <actionParsnip1> Darael: thats all i got, maybe someone else can contribute
[22:35] <lekefly> My DNS wont work.. :(
[22:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> Darael, what's the sitch bro?
[22:35] <Darael> actionParsnip1: Yeah, it's been a while trying to do this one.
[22:35] <actionParsnip1> Darael: before, instead of writing that long snidey remark, a simple "yes" is not only quicker but politer
[22:36] <Darael> actionParsnip1: Point.  Sorry!
[22:36] <actionParsnip1> Darael: np
[22:36] <j_m_williams> Guys, I'm just looking for some pointers on building packages. Any help (links) is appreciated.
[22:36] <macman_> guys question .. what is the default file for grub2
[22:37] <Darael> SpaceGhostC2C: Attempting to mount a webDAV share, unable to mount with gvfs, big troubles /un/mounting with both davfs and fusedav
[22:37] <archboxman> actionParsnip1: what ever happened to a simple question now everyone wants the lastest and greatest to work right out the box... Darael what is boxnet????
[22:37] <Darael> archboxman: I haven't a clue!
[22:38] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: ive not bout hardware in AGES
[22:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> archboxman, probably ever since ubuntu started looking more and more interesting.
[22:38] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: itd be nice if it would but linux doesnt have the support or funding which the others get
[22:38] <CyL> Is there a way to automatically disable the computer's touchpad everytime a mouse is inserted?
[22:38] <j_m_williams> Anyone?
[22:39] <kermit> jken146: the Installed-Size seems to be quite inaccurate: # dpkg-query --showformat='${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' -W torcs .. 31476 torcs .. # dpkg -L  torcs .. Package `torcs' does not contain any files (!)
[22:39] <novato_br> hi everyone? what's default user name and password of ubuntu mint 8?
[22:39] <actionParsnip1> !compile | j_m_williams
[22:39] <Darael> CyL: Probably not an easy graphical one.  I'd think it could be done with udev rules...
[22:39] <actionParsnip1> !mint | novato_br
[22:39] <Rikki_Tikki> If I want to boot ubuntu from an external hard drive, is there anything special I need to do?  Or do I just install it from the live CD onto the hard drive?  There are a million tutorials for this out there, but they all say different things.
[22:40] <archboxman> actionParsnip1:  and SpaceGhostC2C I use archlinux because for the latest and greatest I have to use a rolling distro and the setup is not that easy and ubuntu is trying implament udev I see with upstart....
[22:40] <recon69_lap> novato_br: not sure , but would guess the one you used when you installed it :)
[22:40] <macman_> i have 2 grub entrys for windows i would like to remove 1 of them .. how would i do this ?
[22:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> Rikki_Tikki, you just install it to the externel and then make sure to boot from the externel.
[22:40] <actionParsnip1> Rikki_Tikki: change bios to boot cd, there is a usb install option on the livecd
[22:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> archboxman, I actually roll my LFS distro.
[22:40] <Rikki_Tikki> Ok, and that will write to the partition on the external drive only?
[22:40] <j_m_williams> !compile
[22:41] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: i use ubuntu because all my hardware works out of the box and ive got to the point where i dont care as long as my system works
[22:41] <j_m_williams> !packages
[22:41] <CyL> Darael: may just an app that could deal with the the button on my keyboard that eneables/disables the touchpad?
[22:41] <actionParsnip1> Rikki_Tikki: providing you use the right installer, yes. you can always shutdown and pull the power from the internal drive to be sure
[22:41] <Darael> CyL: I'm afraid I don't know.
[22:41] <Viking667> bah stuff it all. Sound doesn't work.
[22:41] <Rikki_Tikki> Probably not happening.  I'm using a laptop.  =/
[22:41] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: so i use older hardware and have zero issues :)
[22:42] <Darael> Does anyone know of an app that can open SMART notebook files?  Besides SMART Notebook, that is!
[22:42] <CyL> Darael: okay, thanks for your time buddy...
[22:42] <actionParsnip1> Rikki_Tikki: then tread carefully and read, you will be fine
[22:42] <rdvonz> Hey, having trouble with my monitor resolution. It used to go to 1280x1024 now it's at 800x600 and I can't change it.
[22:42] <Rikki_Tikki> actionParsnip1: alright, thanks for the help.
[22:43] <rdvonz> Darael: Similar to the smartboards schools are using now?
[22:43] <Darael> rdvonz: Same app, yeah.  I've got to get one open, and the free viewer is windows-only.
[22:44] <daftykins> Darael: seeing those at a place i worked had me thinking they'd use an evil proprietary format. is it not just bmp renamed then?
[22:44] <actionParsnip1> http://en.sourcews.com/smart-notebook-now-available-all-core
[22:44] <archboxman> actionParsnip1: Ubuntu is on its way to becoming the Windows of linux with all these support questions people and want there desires meet??? just to much there is a lot bloat on ubuntu :)
[22:44] <Kibby> anyone know a great mp3/aac tagging software for linux?
[22:44] <rdvonz> Darael: Assuming you don't want to use wine for any of this, I did a quick google search: http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Support/SBS/SBSv97Linux.htm
[22:45] <tyler_d> when I go System->Admistration->Hardware Drivers and select the recommended video driver, the download/install only gets 50% complete, then just hangs, brand-new 9.10 install.?? any help would be awesome.
[22:45] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: kinda yeah
[22:45] <archboxman> Darael: playonlinux :)
[22:45] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: not if you use the minimal install though ;)
[22:46] <Darael> rdvonz: I did look at the SMART website, but it looked like I'd need a key for the versions that would run on Linux.
[22:46] <archboxman> actionParsnip1: I agree ,but most people don't know about the minimal install of ubuntu...
[22:46] <Darael> archboxman: Nice as playonlinux is, I'd be surprised if they had a smart-notebook install script.
[22:46] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: some dont know about linux
[22:47] <archboxman> Darael: for what???
[22:47] <archboxman> Darael: I run this program on my laptop ;)
[22:47] <Darael> archboxman: You suggested playonlinux - I need this nasty closed SMART notebook file open.
[22:48] <archboxman> Darael: what are you trying to do make a connection via internet to a windows computer
[22:48] <Darael> archboxman: I moved on from that one, I'm now trying to get a SMART notebook file open.
[22:49] <mneptok> Darael: http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Support/Downloads/SBS/NBS10Linux.htm
[22:49] <archboxman> what is a smart file???
[22:49] <archboxman> lmao
[22:49] <actionParsnip1> Darael: does the file open if you install the windows app in wine then run it
[22:49] <schiggy> hi
[22:50] <Darael> mneptok: The only ones I found on SMART's site require me to both a) pay and b) give a random file from the internet a root password - I don't /think/ so.
[22:50] <schiggy> i have a problem with ubuntu 9.10 grub2 and eeepc 901go
[22:50] <actionParsnip1> !details | schiggy
[22:50] <mneptok> Darael: the Windows version requires you to pay, as well.
[22:50] <schiggy> i never see the menu for kernel choise
[22:50] <archboxman> Darael: what is in this smart file????
[22:50] <Darael> mneptok: There's a Student Version for Windows - a free viewer.
[22:51] <Darael> archboxman: Some presentation I have to give...
[22:51] <homebrewcider> Hi there, I have a fresh installation of Xubuntu 9.10. Auto login fails every time and I get taken to a manual login screen. It takes usually between 4 and 8 attempts to login using my user name and password. How can I check the cause of the problem. I'm assuming there's a log somewhere but don't know what to look for.
[22:51] <mneptok> Darael: check the WINE appdb to see if the viewer is known to run in WINE
[22:51] <Viking667> I've got modules loaded for my sound, but alsa still insists there are no soundcards.
[22:51] <archboxman> Darael:oh your taking a college course via internet??
[22:51] <Viking667> even when the command "alsa reload" unloaded all the sound modules, then reloaded the exact same ones....
[22:52] <Darael> archboxman: Close enough.
[22:52] <Viking667> So... what the heck am I missing?
[22:52] <loops> Viking667,  what does dmesg say?
[22:52] <_dreamy> do the HyperZ 3d cards, go seek for the systems RAM has a Resource? anyone helping?
[22:52] <Viking667> finds that the ES1371 is there, as well as the on board AC97
[22:52] <Viking667> snd_via82xx
[22:52] <Darael> mneptok: Doesn't even have an entry!
[22:53] <Darael> I have to go.  Thanks anyway.  G'night!
[22:53] <Viking667> I even hear clicks when I modprobe the es1371
[22:53] <mneptok> Darael: so see if it works, and then update the WINE appdb :)
[22:53] <loops> Viking667, what are you seeing that suggests alsa isn't seeing the cards ?
[22:53] <archboxman> Darael: those webservers are maintained the campus and files like that should be accessed by the campus requirements...Or vist a library and print out the article is the way I would go... if it is only for one presatation... good luck
[22:54] <th3voic3> Hi. I have used backintime for a while to backup my home folder. the backup-folder is now almost 100gb in size. Now I'm trying to delete that folder. it moved to trash and the "file operations" dialog has now disappeared, too. however there is still disk activity and when I try to disconnect the external hard drive on which the backup folder resided it says gfvsd-trash is keeping it busy. what can i do?
[22:54] <Spreadsheet_> Is it possible to have certain fonts appear anti-aliased and others normal?
[22:54] <Viking667> alsactl store; alsactl: load-state(1608):   no soundcards found
[22:54] <DavidJHeinrich> does anyone here know what the PCM slider on the ALSA mixer is?
[22:54] <Viking667> do I have to nuke asound.ctl and restart alsa?
[22:54] <truthtaco> having video issues, using open source driver = not working, no ATI restricted driver available
[22:54] <DavidJHeinrich> is it only there for onboard sound, or also for sound-cards?
[22:55] <truthtaco> (need help etc etc)
[22:55] <loops> Viking667, perhaps; worth a shot
[22:55] <Zarrex> evening all
[22:56] <archboxman> TruthTaco: try another distro that supports the ati card ... like suse since they were the ones working on support for ati cards in the first place...
[22:56] <Viking667> hm. Didn't work. Alsamixer still insists there's no such device (default)
[22:56] <macman_> anyone using a custom grub splash theme on grub2 ?
[22:57] <archboxman> !opensuse
[22:57] <macman_> timfrost: the website says we can't 0_o
[22:57] <macman_> err.
[22:57] <macman_> my bad
[22:57] <Zarrex> need help with lvm2 please, am getting multiple mounts for one volume.  have # out fstab lines but still the volume shows multiple time in 'disk utility' and can not mount other then read only
[22:57] <archboxman> !bot
[22:57] <schiggy> i am using ubuntu 9.10 with grub2 on an eeepc 901go. when i did the update the 2.6.31.17 kernel was installed but i never see the grub menu for choise. do anyone knows that problem?
[22:58] <archboxman> !Opensuse
[22:58] <Viking667> Weird thing is: I've got sound devices in /dev and even a couple of control devices in /dev/snd/
[22:58] <hyperstation> hey i want to ask a question....do u know why APTonCD on my ubuntu 9.10 can't backup all of the packages?? and do you have a solutin for it?
[22:58] <archboxman> stupid bot :/
[22:58] <Viking667> ... that point to two control devices in dev
[22:58] <hyperstation> i am not bot anyway
[22:59] <Viking667> hyperstation: weren't talking about you.. more what archboxman said
[22:59] <loops> Viking667, you don't have a buggered ~/.asoundrc do you
[22:59] <Viking667> hm. Could do. I never thought of that, as I didn't know it existed until now.
[22:59] <hyperstation> hey i want to ask a question....do u know why APTonCD on my ubuntu 9.10 can't backup all of the packages?? and do you have a solutin for it?.....no one answers my question..
[22:59] <loops> Viking667, you probably don't have one then
[23:00] <iceroot> hyperstation: dont backup all packages is not very detailed, what packages for .e.g?
[23:00] <danbhfive> hyperstation: maybe it is only backing up the packages you have in cache
[23:00] <archboxman> hyperstation: why do you want to backup old packages???
[23:01] <hyperstation> no, actually my package is all new
[23:01] <Viking667> urk.
[23:01] <Viking667> wrong damn machine.
[23:01] <archboxman> hyperstation: burn them to a cd???
[23:01] <loops> Viking667, lol.
[23:01] <hyperstation> no, i want to burn them on dvd
[23:02] <danbhfive> hyperstation: what is missing?
[23:02] <archboxman> hyperstation: go ahead what is your point?? they'll be outdated in about 3 months.. what exactly are you saving the .deb packages for??
[23:03] <hyperstation> examples : audacious, vlc, and something important for KDE environment and my gambas :(
[23:03] <hyperstation> i want to install it to my desktop PC
[23:03] <vincenzo> I am looking for help on installing makeinfo in my ubuntu distro
[23:04] <archboxman> hyperstation: that is why we use apt-get install program  and program and program
[23:04] <vincenzo> I have tried that but it says that the package is not found
[23:04] <marc__> I have 3 computer plugged in a Gigabyte Switch, the switch is plugged in my router, the router is plug in the cable modem... If I want to use port 58846 to connect from one computer to another, do I need to configure the router or it's not necessary since they are all plugged in the switch?
[23:04] <hyperstation> lol..my internet connection cannot do it
[23:04] <xentek> can anyone point me towards a resource about modifying ubuntu's init.d for memcached to start multiple instances?
[23:05] <Viking667> I think I found what's wrong. alsactl's only looking for stuff in /dev/snd, and of course, there's bugger all there.
[23:05] <Viking667> one directory, called "by-id"
[23:05] <aaron_> im having some trouble with LVM, i've created an md raid (working fine) and added it to a pv, created a vg and added lv's they all show up under pv/vg/lvscan. but in most docs it says there should be a folder in /dev/<vgname> with the lv's in it, its not there, any ideas?
[23:05] <Viking667> and inside that directory, are two entries pointing back to two entries in /dev
[23:05] <archboxman> hyperstation: you want to know location of the .deb files to burn to disk??? yes no
[23:05] <Viking667> So I'm rather wondering what the hell happened to the sound and to the device manager
[23:05] <fenix`> damn irssi default settings.
[23:06] <diegobestlinux> ola
[23:06] <Viking667> fenix`: did you realise that if you start irssi with --nick whatever   it'll save that to your config? From then on, you'll start off as "whatever" nick.
[23:06] <hyperstation> if i had better internet connection i would never ask this question hehe
[23:06] <nocleader> marc_ : If all 3 hosts are on the same subnet you won't need to change the router ( I assume you don't have an ACL on router )
[23:07] <hyperstation> yes of course...anyway, where is it?
[23:07] <nocleader> marc_ : also I assume you are NOT using vlans on the switch
[23:07] <danbhfive> hyperstation: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep vlc        anything show up?
[23:07] <garymc> Hey my webserver is on the net I know the IP but I need to tunnel somehow to a polycom phone on the subnet of my server. Anyone know how I can do this?
[23:07] <thinkwritemute> For some reason my System Monitor is showing CPU1 at 70% and CPU2 at 80%~, but I can't find the source!
[23:07] <thinkwritemute> Now my computer is extremely sluggish.
[23:07] <marc__> nocleader, don't think so, basic 5port home router
[23:08] <nocleader> marc_ : yes I agree,  simple stuff
[23:08] <B3rz3rk3r> thinkwritemute, have you opened System Monitor and arranged the tabs accroding to CPU usage?
[23:09] <nocleader> marc_ : don't forget a possible firewall on your hosts; that could affect things
[23:09] <thinkwritemute> B3rz3rk3r: If by tabs you mean columns, yes I have. The worst offender is System Monitor at 20%-40%
[23:09] <thinkwritemute> The remaining processes are 0%
[23:09] <B3rz3rk3r> yeah i did, thats odd
[23:10] <marc__> nocleader, so all communication between computer is going only through the switch and only on the router to go on the net.  do I understand correctly?
[23:10] <hyperstation> nothing happened...btw it is not only that package...even aptoncd cannot backup my gnome-ppp
[23:10] <Talon_> gnome is not shutting off my monitor, I went to preferences>Screensaver, bumped it down to 1 minute, clicked power management, set my screen to shut off at one minute, i wait a min, it fades to black and then jumps back to being fully bright n never shuts off
[23:10] <garymc> Anyone know how I can tunnel???
[23:10] <B3rz3rk3r> thinkwritemute, running flash?
[23:10] <garymc> to a subnet ip on my server. Its a web interface and its a phone?
[23:11] <nocleader> marc_ the router should only be involved if you are going off network ... ex... if you need to leave your local subnet to go to internet for example
[23:11] <recon69_lap> thinkwritemute: try use htop instead of system monitor
[23:11] <thinkwritemute> B3rz3rk3 I use Chrome, so I would have noticed.
[23:11] <danbhfive> hyperstation: you can try the same command, replacing vlc with gnome-ppp.  If nothing shows up, you don't have the package, and you will have to download it again
[23:11] <garymc> the web ip is something like 81.123.345.34 and the subnet i want to connect to is 192.168.0.34
[23:11] <Zarrex> garymc: you mean vpn ?
[23:11] <garymc> possibly
[23:11] <garymc> how do i vpn?
[23:12] <hyperstation> actually i am not sure what package is not shown up on aptoncd....but i m sure it is more than just what i expected
[23:12] <Talon_> anybody else have this problem with gnome? I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[23:12] <Zarrex> garymc: client on phone config, whatever that is and a vpn server like openSwan (I think)
[23:12] <thinkwritemute> INstalling HTOP. I wish System Monitor wasn't such a crappy program.
[23:12] <garymc> in the short iam at home and need to get into a phones software thats on a Subnet of my server can i do this now?
[23:13] <archboxman> danbhfive: they can just do a locate???? pkg tar.gz if it exsists
[23:14] <danbhfive> archboxman: sorry, I dont follow
[23:15] <archboxman> danbhfive: thought they were looking for a pkg in the long list and could find it so use locate
[23:15] <Zarrex> garymc: tried to setup a private chat. not working.  I dunno what you have setup on your server to best help u
[23:15] <garymc> i just run LTSP server
[23:16] <danbhfive> archboxman: I dunno, the grep should have done the finding for them
[23:16] <hyperstation> excuse me....my aptoncd cannot backup all of the packages, how to solve it?
[23:16] <thinkwritemute> Ok, HTOP shows CPU1 at 50% and CP2 at 60%, but only maybe 10% usage in the list.
[23:16] <bensa> Hi. I am new here. Does anyone know who I can turn too when I need advice about removing packages?
[23:17] <Zarrex> garymc: do you have a thin client on yr phone?
[23:17] <obaid> bensa, what do you want to remove
[23:17] <archboxman> hyperstation: there compressed files in the first place how many are you trying to backup ???
[23:17] <bensa> Bluez-utils
[23:17]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves at everyone...
[23:18] <Zarrex> bensa: hi. what packages?
[23:18] <obaid> bensa, sudo apt-get remove bluez<tab> will complate
[23:18] <obaid> complete*
[23:18] <recon69_lap> thinkwritemute: you scrolled through all the processes?
[23:18] <bensa> I tried, that didn't work
[23:18] <nitemovz> hello all
[23:18] <bensa> can I post the error message here?
[23:18] <obaid> bensa, what error msg you got
[23:18] <hyperstation> so many times of course, but it just get the same result
[23:18] <obaid> no
[23:18] <nitemovz> Can anyone help me install makeinfo on my computer through the command line? I am working on a program that requires me to use makeinfo
[23:18] <erUSUL> !paste | bensa
[23:18] <obaid> bensa, paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[23:19] <Zarrex> bensa: have you tried the synaptic package manager (GUI)
[23:20] <thinkwritemute> recon69_lap: I have it sorted.
[23:20] <archboxman> hyperstation: this is a dvd you should be able to write 4 gigs of data to this disc... you selecting the write way to burn the data...???
[23:20] <thinkwritemute> What is console-kit-daemon and why is it running 15 times?
[23:20] <Zarrex> can anybody help regarding LVM2 read only problems
[23:21] <JenniferB> how do I reverse an update with SVN ? ( go back to a previous revision)
[23:21] <macman_> anyone mind helping me setup a printer .. the printer is on the network and it is not shared .. it has its on built in network
[23:21] <macman_> i have the ip and all
[23:21] <hyperstation> yes, because i want to use that repo to distribute it to someone who need it
[23:21] <simmerz> hi. I've added my ppa to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo but when i do an aptitude update, it doesn't even get looked at. any ideas?
[23:22] <teknomage> macman  sure  what do you want to know?
[23:22] <macman_> teknomage: i want to connect ot and print to it
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> nitemovz, have you tried installing texinfo from the repo -- according to some people in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16734 it worked as a drop-in replacement for makeinfo
[23:22] <macman_> teknomage: its a esponda30f0 .. it shows up on the network as a workforce printer
[23:22] <nitemovz> textinfo?
[23:22] <gerrin> in search of internet browsers other than firefox, any suggestions?
[23:22] <nitemovz> I will give that a try
[23:22] <archboxman> hyperstation: what is it giving that you don't have permissions to folder or what?? what is the error msg???
[23:22] <bensa> yes, I want to upgrade, but it wouldn't let me, cause I have defetive packages, but when I try to remove it with sudo apt-get remove, I get the same error message, when I try to force install: error-url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/369177/
[23:23] <alexmonkeyboy> Shouldn't it be /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo.list ?
[23:23] <teknomage> macman  just go to administration and select printer, then add
[23:23] <Talon_> Ubuntu 9.10 > Gnomes Start Menu > System > Preferences > Screensaver: If i go to power management, and set a time for my screen to shut off it never does.. and if I enable spin down hard disks when possible, it assumes my USB keyboard is a hard disk and disconnects it. only way to get the keyboard back is unplug n plug back in.
[23:23] <nitemovz> ZykoticK9: I get "E: Couldn't find package textinfo"
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> nitemovz, it's texinfo as i wrote it
[23:23] <macman_> teknomage: i don't see it
[23:23] <macman_> let me go see if it is on
[23:23] <hyperstation> no there is no error messages, it is just the program cannot backup all of the packages completely
[23:24] <recon69_lap> thinkwritemute: thats about all I know about processes, but if it's any help both my cpu's are at about 50% as well :)
[23:24] <nitemovz> thanks! I read it as "text"
[23:24]  * Psilocybin_Elf recommends Swiftfox, Kazehakase or Chrome...
[23:24] <nitemovz> It seems to be working!
[23:24] <teknomage> macman  you don't see main menu, places administration?
[23:24] <hyperstation> no there is no error messages, it is just the program which cannot backup all of the packages completely
[23:24] <archboxman> hyperstation: burn it 2 dvd
[23:24] <thinkwritemute> recon69_lap: Arrrgh, that's crazy! Oh well, meh. Thanks for the help.
[23:25] <archboxman> hyperstation: burn it 2 dvds ... problem solved
[23:25] <macman_> teknomage: i see the printer section i just don't see the printer .. by the way its not cups or anything .. like i stated aboce its a printer that is connect to the network via wifi
[23:25] <recon69_lap> thinkwritemute: might be a reporting glitch with multi cpu's.
[23:25] <teknomage> macman  it should still be showing up though, are you sure you have those ports open?
[23:25] <kyon-MTfr> I've made a mess with my sound configuration after a hardware failure, could someone help me please ?
[23:25] <git__> anyone have problem with ext4 on Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:26] <hyperstation> so how to do that?
[23:26] <git__> i kept getting data corruption random when doing large files
[23:26] <macman_> teknomage: other computers in the hose print to it inculding thi mac i use for work
[23:27] <archboxman> hyperstation: select half the list files and burn to disk... hyperstation are you trying to do this from the command line or in a gui???
[23:27] <hyperstation> from a gui
[23:27] <teknomage> macman if printing doesn't see it when it does a search there must be some network issue maybe?
[23:27] <hyperstation> aptoncd-->gui
[23:28] <SeaPhor> where can i go for help/support with apache???
[23:28] <archboxman> hyperstation: are you playing with the program or the folder location of all the files
[23:29] <teknomage> macman   it's pretty straightforward with most printers even networked
[23:29] <hyperstation> i dont know what u mean but i just use aptoncd as is..
[23:30] <hyperstation> without any extra command or something
[23:30] <archboxman> hyperstation: are you in folder with all the tar.gz files are located
[23:31] <simmerz> Hi, any reason why a debootstrapped ubuntu install wouldn't look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[23:31] <hyperstation> not yet...anyway, i download all of the packages using synaptic..
[23:31] <Flimm> How can you get RSS feed updates using Ubuntu's new notification system?
[23:31] <macman_> teknomage: it should find a network printer also even though this is linux and it uses cups ?
[23:32] <Milp> Hi there, can someone tell me why high amounts of blocked ips slow my server down? And how can i circumvent this problem?
[23:32] <teknomage> macman  yeah, i've never had any problems
[23:32] <zephead> does anybody have experience with external channel changing script using USB-UIRT in MythTV?
[23:32] <macman_> ok i have to see if it is connected .. let me reboot to windows and see if it finds it
[23:33] <Nooneshere> Bonjour. I have googled this already, but how do you untar something? If someone could help me? I am trying to install what pulse. I have the SH file done. This is all.
[23:33] <hyperstation> hello..
[23:34] <archboxman> hyperstation: no no no places > my computer > file system > open folders /var /lib /apt /cache select form the list half the files and right click burn to disc should work...
[23:34] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: install unp and do 'unp <filename>' instead of bothering with right flags with 'tar xczf etc'
[23:34] <Nooneshere> vcoolio, i will do
[23:34] <cdr_> i need help getting my video card to work i have a nvidia geforce4 440 go can someone plz help me and the distro im using is ubuntu 8.04lts
[23:35] <SuperDefenderX> !Eggdrop
[23:35] <cdr_> i need help getting my video card to work i have a nvidia geforce4 440 go can someone plz help me and the distro im using is ubuntu 8.04lts
[23:36] <chriszf> Hey, sometimes when I apt-get remove something, sometimes bash seems to think it still exists, eg: -bash: /usr/bin/gm: No such file or directory
[23:36] <Nooneshere> Okay i have it unpacked, now how to i install it?
[23:36] <hyperstation> anyway, the package in that folder is just as same as the package i just burned...it is not complete yet...
[23:36] <Gorash> Howdy people. I have a small webdav issue. My vhost info: http://pastebin.com/m4d37d521    -- the problem I face is that my webdav functions 100%. When I surf to my IP/webdav (it is an internal IP) i have to auth myself. Problem I have.. when I surf to my <IP> alone it displays the contents of the <IP>/webdav map and I dont want that :) Anyone can point me in the right direction!? Thanks
[23:36] <chriszf> That is, if I try to run it without path.
[23:36] <archboxman> hyperstation: that is why danbhfive gave you the location to the files so you could select the folder and burn the selected amount should have wrote down the path to the cache and gone to the folder selected half the packages and drag and droped the packages to the program aptoncd
[23:37] <Nooneshere> vcollio, its done, how do i install?\
[23:37] <xentek> what's the cleanest way to manage multiple memcached instances on ubuntu?
[23:37] <hyperstation> i am getting confused now hehe...so what should i do next?
[23:38] <kyon-MTfr> Hello, my sound card "disappeared" from the sound manager because of (long story) after a (now fixed) hardware failure, can someone help me please ?
[23:38] <cdr_> i need help getting my video card to work i have a nvidia geforce4 440 go can someone plz help me and the distro im using is ubuntu 8.04lts
[23:38] <kyon-MTfr> (ubuntu 9.10)
[23:38] <kaell> how can i play a sound from command line to test if it is working?
[23:38] <archboxman> hyperstation: what are you taking about did you finalize the burn on aptoncd or burn to disc... your confusing me...??? did you burn list to disc
[23:38] <iflema> kaell canberra-gtk-play --file=/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/sonar.ogg
[23:38] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: depends on what kind of stuff is in there; read the README or INSTALL file, also use 'checkinstall' rather than 'make install'; what are you trying to install anyway?
[23:39] <kaell> cool, thanks
[23:39] <Tiggers> so,I uuhhh... accidently removed myself from the sudoers list, am I screwed?
[23:39] <hyperstation> about that one, i have burnt it well...
[23:39] <cdr_> i need help getting my video card to work i have a nvidia geforce4 440 go can someone plz help me and the distro im using is ubuntu 8.04lts
[23:39] <archboxman> hyperstation: or is it not letting you burn to disc because you have selected to many files delete half the list and burn to disc.. this is not rocket science you need to learn how to use the program
[23:40] <Nooneshere> vcoolio, i am trying to install whatpulse. www.whatpulse.org/download/ No install file.
[23:40] <danbhfive> cdr_: have you considered using the latest distro?
[23:40] <cdr_> danbhfive: its an older video card
[23:40] <kyon-MTfr> @Tiggers : there is a way, but it won't be easy
[23:40] <cdr_> danbhfive: i dont think the xorg would approve of it
[23:40] <hyperstation> yes i have burnt it...all of the package is on my dvd now
[23:41] <danbhfive> cdr_: why is that?  There are 3 nvidia drivers, one is the latest, and the other two are for the older cards
[23:41] <iWolf> Would I shrink my W7 partition, boot up the LiveCd, run the installer, etc; then I choose, "USE FREE SPACE" for the install (Dual-Boot)
[23:41] <V4mpire> cdr_, i should have thought it would im using ubuntu on an old card
[23:41] <Tiggers> kyon-MTfr, hows that?
[23:41] <archboxman> hyperstation: great sounds good stop complaining about having to do maintence tasks... every person has same takes ... even me..
[23:41] <danbhfive> cdr_: you should have System > Admin > hardware drivers
[23:41] <V4mpire> 1 that linux doesn't work to well as 3d hard to setup so haven't bothered to setup for 3d
[23:41] <cdr_> V4mpire: it works great with ubuntu 9.04
[23:42] <kyon-MTfr> Tiggers : you may log in as root via grub
[23:42] <cdr_> danbhfire: i tried went to blank screen
[23:42] <kyon-MTfr> I'm looking for my notes, because it's not easy to do
[23:42] <cdr_> i will try to upgrade then do you think it will mess it up
[23:42] <Tiggers> ok
[23:42] <danbhfive> I don't know.  You could just try out a livecd
[23:42] <V4mpire> cdr_,  i had that with mine just means u have to manual do the xorg.conf to get things done temp
[23:43] <cdr_> okay
[23:43] <Tiggers> what if I never set the root passwd explicitly?
[23:43] <cdr_> thanks
[23:43] <hyperstation> what should i do next? i think it is still uncomplete yet
[23:43] <cdr_> okay i will upgrade then
[23:43] <cdr_> thank you
[23:43] <hyperstation> anyway do u know where is the rest of the package?
[23:44] <V4mpire> Tiggers, then you wont need to login if you never set 1
[23:45] <Krai> hi
[23:45] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: it looks like a bin file, just 'sudo mv WhatPulse /usr/local/bin && sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/WhatPulse' then run it (my guess)
[23:45] <Krai> hiwhat is the file ext .linux ?
[23:45] <V4mpire> Tiggers, when u boot look on grub it says to press a certain key to get to boot menu or something u then add single to the boot line or something like that
[23:46] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: this means: copy the file to a convenient place and make it executable
[23:46] <Krai> there is a file whose extension .linux ?
[23:46] <Tiggers> ok
[23:46] <Nooneshere> vcoolio i just run that command. now what do i do?
[23:47] <V4mpire> Tiggers, here you go
[23:47] <V4mpire> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[23:47] <cAs-karmico> hi everyone
[23:47] <cAs-karmico> Ive got a serious question about conky...could anyone help me??
[23:47] <sarthor> Hi, How can i redirect all the my users traffice comming from 192.168.0.1/24 to 192.168.0.1:80 using iptables,(my thtpd running here) browsers traffice only.
[23:48] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: I don't know the app, so I don't know what it's supposed to do, but if it's some standalone thing you can now execute the command 'WhatPulse'
[23:49] <Nooneshere> Vcoolio It doesn't sadly
[23:49] <derek__> Hey I've been having a serious problem with 9.10. Whenever I open my laptop lid to come out of suspend mode, all I see is a black screen and a white cursor. What do I do?
[23:49] <cAs-karmico> Could anyoone help me with a conky problem???
[23:49] <Woolman> how do I change the computer name in Karmic?
[23:49] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: what is the error message?
[23:50] <Chr1z> In Ubuntu where how do I view and modify the list of services that automatically start during bootup?
[23:50] <Nooneshere> cannot find whatpulse
[23:50] <Nooneshere> I must go sorry
[23:50] <CShadowRun> Chr1z: system > preferences > startup applications
[23:50] <Chr1z> CShadowRun: thx
[23:50] <lmk> hey - is there a way i can block a specific usb input device at boot up ?
[23:50] <Woolman> Chr1z: Go to System>>Administration >> Services
[23:50] <dhmhtrhs> eiparxh kanenas ellhnas
[23:51] <derek__> Hey I've been having a serious problem with 9.10. Whenever I open my laptop lid to come out of suspend mode, all I see is a black screen and a white cursor. What do I do?
[23:51] <CShadowRun> Woolman: there is no services there :P
[23:52] <DavidJHeinrich> is it safe to remove a PCI card while the case is on?
[23:52] <Chr1z> CShadowRun: different in Kubuntu?
[23:52] <CShadowRun> Chr1z: dunno, this isn't the kubuntu channel though :P
[23:52] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: while the computer is powered up? heck no!
[23:52] <ascheel> Anybody here ever use DarkPlaces in Ubuntu and have any sound issues (no sound at all)?
[23:52] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich   definitely not!
[23:53] <DavidJHeinrich> damn
[23:53] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: you'll give yourself or the computer an electric shock that neither of you is likely to take well
[23:53] <DavidJHeinrich> well, my old sound card from 2001 or 2002 doesn't work :-(
[23:53] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich   yeah and probably fry the card or MB to
[23:53] <DavidJHeinrich> shows up in ALSA, but no sound
[23:53] <DavidJHeinrich> well, glad I didn't try it
[23:53] <zig_> Anyone have trouble with microphone & built-in ATI-chipset sound?
[23:53] <zig_> With Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:53] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich   did you run alsamixer in terminal?
[23:54] <kyon-MTfr> I can't reinstall my sound card after it disappeared" from the sound manager because of (long story I can explain) after a hardware failure, can someone help me please ? (ubuntu 9.10)
[23:54] <DavidJHeinrich> teknomage: in the terminal, how do I change the sound card I'm modifying? I ave onboard sound, the plugged in creative SB PCI card, and the sound-chip on my radeon GPU
[23:55] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich   does it should show which device it's on?
[23:56] <Chr1z> CShadowRun: any way to control sevices starting during bootup from the command line?
[23:56] <DavidJHeinrich> its on he HDA Intel (the onboard sound)
[23:56] <kyon-MTfr> alsaconf just doesn't detect my card while lspci shows it
[23:56] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich i mean in the term it says chip xxx  ?
[23:56] <jose__> Hi, I'm having problems with printing to my usb printer. I always have to use "sudo". Any help?
[23:56] <DavidJHeinrich> chip is AD1989B
[23:57] <Random832> jose__; what port is it on?
[23:57] <Random832> also, are you using CUPS?
[23:57] <jose__> Random832, usblp0
[23:57] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich  and the card  shows up in sound preferences also?
[23:57] <Random832> ls -l /dev/usblp0
[23:58] <icek0ld> Anyone know of code or prog to combine Multiple wifi connections for greater Bandwidth?
[23:58] <DavidJHeinrich> teknomage: in GNOME Alsamixer, it shows up as "Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev 4" (It's an old SB Live card)
[23:58] <Random832> also are you using cups?
[23:58] <jose__> Random832, It's installed on cups, but actually I'm printing using JavaPOS driver and I have tu run my POS software as root always to get it to print.
[23:58] <Random832> ok, ls -l /dev/usblp0
[23:58] <DavidJHeinrich> teknomage: and the oon-board shows up as "Analog Device AD1989B"
[23:59] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich  maybe it's loading the wrong driver?  run lsmod  in the term
[23:59] <derek__> Hey I've been having a serious problem with 9.10. Whenever I open my laptop lid to come out of suspend mode, all I see is a black screen and a white cursor. What do I do?
[23:59] <enrico__> can you give italian access
[23:59] <jose__> Random832, one moment please
[23:59] <hyperstation> excuse me...i have another problem...i cannot open root on 9.10...do u know the solution?
[23:59] <jose__> sorry
[23:59] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich  sometimes old cards won't work with the new drivers