[04:17] <ouyes>  i want to add  two shortcuts of display desktop and open home folder in xubuntu, i do not know the command name of the two ,who can tell me ?
[05:28] <ouyes> there is no lock screen shortcut? how to add one?
[06:08] <tvaughn> how do i add a shortcut to my panel up top for terminal etc
[09:09] <jarnos> Is X restarted when you log out of Xfce session in 9.04 and 9.10?
[09:09] <Sysi-> yes
[09:13] <jarnos> Sysi-: thanks
[11:43] <jarnos> Can you use xinerama in 9.04?
[12:38] <ouyes> it is so strange, i can mount,  create files, delete files, but i just can not copy files, what is wrong? i can not copy files from a ntfs partition to a ext4 filesystem(my home directory0, can anyone help me
[13:06] <TheSheep> ouyes: what's the error?
[13:07] <ouyes> TheSheep, no error message
[13:07] <ouyes> you just can not paste files
[13:07] <ouyes> TheSheep,  it is quite strange
[13:08] <ouyes> TheSheep, you just can not copy files from the ntfs partition to ext4 home folder
[13:11] <ouyes> TheSheep, are you still there
[13:15] <TheSheep> ouyes: you issue the copy command and it prints no message?
[13:16] <TheSheep> ouyes: maybe you have no write access to where you are trying to copy to?
[13:17] <ouyes> TheSheep, but it is my home fold, how can i have no write access?
[13:17] <TheSheep> how about free space?
[13:22] <ouyes> enough
[13:37] <BeepBeep> Has anyone been having erratic behavior with mouse and then a total freeze? Using x64 v9.10
[13:37] <icek0ld> no
[13:37] <icek0ld> sry
[13:37] <BeepBeep> Mouse shows same prob with both PS2 and USB mouse
[13:37] <BeepBeep> ok tnx
[13:38] <BeepBeep> I feel it maybe SW related as I did not hv it at the start. Something I added on.
[13:38] <BeepBeep> Any suggestions as to what I cud try?
[13:39] <icek0ld> sound like a confilict of device try one usb at a time to isolate the prob same for ps2
[13:39] <BeepBeep> ok tnx appreciate it.
[13:39] <Pres-Gas> BeepBeep, I would look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log* and messages
[13:39] <icek0ld> it's just an idea
[13:39] <BeepBeep> ok
[13:40] <Pres-Gas> You can paste any anomolies to the pastebin and we can look at it as well.
[13:40] <Pres-Gas> !pastebin
[13:40] <BeepBeep> Ok great.
[13:40] <BeepBeep> Shall check
[13:40] <Pres-Gas> :D
[15:16] <yesitisjustme> i have a sprint wireless card and baud rate is 9600 is this to low or is it correct?
[17:13] <rosco> anyone - i'm shopping for a distro for an older laptop.  1Ghz and 128Rram.  32Gig HD.  would xubuntu work?
[17:16] <rosco> anyone?
[17:19] <charlie-tca> With 128MG ram, it will run very slow
[17:19] <charlie-tca> You would not be able to use the gui, as I recall
[17:21]  * charlie-tca wondering if I said it wrong?
[17:22] <vinnl> It will definitely not be pleasant
[17:23] <charlie-tca> so maybe it wasn't me?
[17:24] <vinnl> I believe we mention as minimum requirement 192MB
[17:25] <charlie-tca> yeah, but who reads anything these days?
[17:26] <charlie-tca> didn't put it on facebook or twitter, it ain't true, right?
[17:26] <vinnl> Obviously
[17:26]  * charlie-tca using weechat in lucid, seem to be missing most of the shifted letters
[17:29] <charlie-tca> (even the ceo of sun resigned via twitter today)
[17:29] <vinnl> 0.o
[17:47] <ubuntu> somone know of any graphical ubuntu application to write Floppy images?
[17:57] <charlie-tca> bittin: once you mount them, you can use thunar just like with any other drive, AFAIR
[17:58] <bittin> :o and that unpacks the image etc etc?
[17:59] <charlie-tca> unpack? a floppy should be just another disk formatted in fat16 or fat32, isn't it?
[17:59] <charlie-tca> or any other fs you format it too
[17:59] <bittin> yea but i downloaded an image of DOS 7.1
[17:59] <bittin> how do i write it to a floppydisk?
[17:59] <charlie-tca> image as in iso image?
[18:00] <bittin> the readme says winimage are it something like that out for Linux
[18:00] <bittin> charlie-tca, yes
[18:00] <charlie-tca> burn it to a cd, then copy it to the floppy, I would guess
[18:00] <charlie-tca> or try burn to floppy, if it is available when you right click the image
[18:01] <bittin> *facepalm*
[18:02] <charlie-tca> When I click an iso, I can "open with brasero", then I should be able to tell brasero which device to use
[18:02] <bittin> charlie-tca, Brasero can't use Floppy drives :(
[18:03] <charlie-tca> Oh! well, burn it to the cd, then?
[18:03]  * charlie-tca knows lucid can't burn at all
[18:03] <bittin> but the computer dosen't want to boot cds
[18:03] <charlie-tca> burn to cd, copy to floppy?
[18:04] <charlie-tca> or use k3b, maybe
[18:04] <charlie-tca> Not sure what will burn to floppy, now. They tell me lucid is trying to find floppy image on every boot now.
[18:05] <charlie-tca> even when there is no floppy controller present
[18:06] <bittin> i tried dd now will see if it works if it does i will write floppy #2 :)
[18:11] <charlie-tca> good luck
[18:27] <dimitris> hi folks
[18:28]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves.
[18:28] <Psilocybin_Elf> Hi
[18:28] <dimitris>  i am trying to play this stream....mms://sentrafm.live24.gr/sentrafm   but i cant with anyone player...any ideas?
[18:28] <Psilocybin_Elf> Not sure what the MMS:// tag is...?! :-S
[18:28] <Psilocybin_Elf> Anyone?
[18:29] <Psilocybin_Elf> Aha: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service
[18:29] <dimitris> mplayer...vlc..
[18:29] <dimitris> no solution! :(
[18:29] <Psilocybin_Elf> or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Media_Server
[18:29] <Psilocybin_Elf> Not too sure though...
[18:29] <dimitris> i tried the most of them....
[18:29] <Psilocybin_Elf> Have you asked the guys on the mplayer & vlc channels?
[18:30] <dimitris> not yet...you think is a good idea?
[18:30] <dimitris> i will do then!
[18:32] <Psilocybin_Elf> Yeah, I would ask on #mplayer or #vlc
[19:24] <tvaughn> how do i add a shortcut to my panel up top for terminal etc
[19:24] <vinnl> Right-click it, Add new item, Launcher :)
[19:24] <tvaughn> its not letting me
[19:24] <tvaughn> right click launches
[19:25] <vinnl> Ah, you have to make sure you're not clicking another item on the panel
[19:25] <tvaughn> oh
[19:25] <tvaughn> but wheres the bin im looking for
[19:25] <vinnl> Probably in /usr/bin
[19:25] <vinnl> /usr/bin/Terminal e.g.
[19:26] <tvaughn> i know im wondering what the default terminal is for xubuntu 9.10
[19:26] <vinnl> xfce4-terminal, also launched by /usr/bin/Terminal
[19:27] <tvaughn> /usr/bin/tty?
[19:27] <tvaughn> there is no terminal
[19:27] <tvaughn> theres an xterm
[19:27] <vinnl> Hmm, odd, but /usr/share/xfce4-terminal should be there I suppose
[19:28] <tvaughn> nope
[19:29] <vinnl> Oh sorry I mean /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal
[19:29] <tvaughn> got it
[19:29] <tvaughn> :)
[19:30] <blip-> hi, I just upgraded to xubuntu 9.10.   When I have xfce4-power-manager running, it makes the laptop brightness go up and down in steps of 2..... such that I only have 3 brightness settings.     If I kill the xfce power manager then the brightness controls are back to normal (but of course no OSD).   any ideas why this happens ?    gnome-power-manager doesn't have this problem
[19:48] <`mOOse`> guys, how do I pin an app to the status bar?
[19:48] <`mOOse`> or menu bar - whatever you call it
[19:48] <vinnl> `mOOse`, you mean to just have its icon on the panel?
[19:49] <`mOOse`> yea
[19:49] <`mOOse`> you know, like firefox and
[19:49] <vinnl> Right-click an empty part of the panel, select Add new item, then Launcher
[19:49] <`mOOse`> "places" do out of the box
[19:49] <`mOOse`> ok
[19:49] <vinnl> (This will be easier in the next version of the panel)
[19:51] <`mOOse`> I'm wanting to put terminal up there - do I have to add a command to the Command line? Or do I just want to click the Run In Terminal box?
[19:51] <vinnl> No, you want to enter "xfce4-terminal"
[19:51] <`mOOse`> sorry - I know this is pretty elementary
[19:51] <`mOOse`> oh...ok
[19:52] <vinnl> No, it's more complicated than it should be
[19:52] <tvaughn> vinnl: i thought it was too complicated
[19:53] <vinnl> I understand, it is :) Nick Schermer, the developer, has already written the functionality to be able to drag items from e.g. the menu onto the panel, so when the next version of Xfce is released it'll be easier :)
[19:53] <`mOOse`> ok, that puts it on the right side of the bar - any way to coax it over to the left where the other apps are?
[19:53] <vinnl> `mOOse`, right click it, select Move
[19:53] <`mOOse`> I did - it stubbornly ignores me
[19:54] <tvaughn> vinnl: i have another suggestion
[19:55] <tvaughn> add the ability to right click the icons in the application menu and add to panel
[19:55] <tvaughn> gnome does that
[19:55] <`mOOse`> yes
[19:55] <`mOOse`> yes!!
[19:55] <vinnl> `mOOse`, hmm, that's odd... Can you click Move or is it greyed out?
[19:55] <tvaughn> gnomes a piece of crap tho
[19:55] <vinnl> tvaughn, I'm not a developer so I can't make that into reality :) But you could file that against xfce4-panel in Xfce's bug tracker
[19:56] <vinnl> Unfortunately the panel's developer just announced he's taking a break from Xfce development, IIRC
[19:56] <Psilocybin_Elf> Yucky Gnome!
[19:56]  * Psilocybin_Elf agrees that would be a good feature though...
[19:56] <`mOOse`> no, I can click move alright - it greys out the whole bar though
[19:57] <tvaughn> `mOOse`: its supposed to do that
[19:57] <vinnl> Yeah I believe you should be able to drag it after that
[19:57] <tvaughn> brb
[19:58] <`mOOse`> I just clicked the "freely moveable" box in the panel properties and that just made it go crazy - all my apps windows got larger and ocluded the panel somewhat...then when I re-clicked the box it put the panel on the bottom of the screen bar
[19:58] <`mOOse`> now that panel's on the bottom of my screen mixed with my apps icons
[19:58] <`mOOse`> hehe
[19:59] <vinnl> Oh haha
[20:00] <`mOOse`> ack - I can't move it back
[20:00] <vinnl> You have to do that in the panel properties, I suppose
[20:01] <`mOOse`> haha - no - I was trying to move it by using the move function - all I had to do was left-click on it and move it
[20:01] <vinnl> The panel?
[20:01] <`mOOse`> yea
[20:01] <vinnl> Ah cool
[20:02] <`mOOse`> yes, thank gof
[20:02] <`mOOse`> d
[20:02] <`mOOse`> that would have driven me spastic
[20:02] <vinnl> But to make it sit in a fixed position again you'll need the properties, IIRC
[20:02] <`mOOse`> k
[20:03] <`mOOse`> ooohh kaaay...I think I understand now
[20:03] <`mOOse`> there's a panel 1 and panel 2
[20:03] <`mOOse`> they refer to top and bottom?
[20:03] <`mOOse`> yes?
[20:05] <vinnl> Well, there's just two panels named 1 and 2, and one happens to be situated at the top and one at the bottom
[20:05] <vinnl> You could, if you wanted (which you probably don't :P) add some more panels and have multiple panels at the top, for example ;-)
[20:05] <`mOOse`> ok, and they each have different settings choices
[20:05] <vinnl> Yes
[20:05] <`mOOse`> which is confusing me :-)
[20:05] <`mOOse`> now I can't seem to get the top one to stretch across the whole desktop
[20:06] <vinnl> Yeah it's a bit of a power user feature but nice to have, and mostly isn't in the way unless you click it accidentally
[20:06] <`mOOse`> it's just slightly bigger than the icons that are in it
[20:06] <`mOOse`> I don't mind panels! I'd just like to understand their behavior first though :-)
[20:07] <`mOOse`> man I'm really really liking this DE
[20:07] <vinnl> I'm trying to find out what the setting was named to restore that behaviour :)
[20:07] <`mOOse`> after gnome and kde this is such a pleasure
[20:07] <vinnl> Ah, here, you need the drop-down menu next to the selection of the position
[20:07] <`mOOse`> well thanks for it if/when you remember
[20:07] <vinnl> See this screenshot: http://www.23hq.com/Vincentt/photo/2872764
[20:07] <`mOOse`> ok
[20:07] <vinnl> It's the "Full Width" part :)
[20:10] <`mOOse`> whoa... somehow I managed to get the top panel BEHIND the bottom panel!
[20:10] <vinnl> xD
[20:14] <`mOOse`> if I make panel 1 freely moveable I can get it up to the top and stay there, but as soon as I click the fixed position to get to the normal width/full width button, it pops back down to the bottom of the screen again
[20:15] <vinnl> Yeah then you have to select its positions with the button to the left of that drop-down menu, I presume
[20:20] <`mOOse`> sorry - had a drive-by conversation here - yes that worked lol
[20:20] <`mOOse`> thanks
[20:20] <`mOOse`> that never occurred to me
[20:21] <`mOOse`> and that's probably why I can't move that terminal icon because the panel's stretched across the whole top of the screen and it snaps to the left or right depending...
[20:22] <`mOOse`> makes sense, sorta
[20:22] <vinnl> It might also be that the terminal icons is locked :)
[20:22] <vinnl> Right click it to unlock it :)
[20:22] <`mOOse`> hmm
[20:23] <`mOOse`> when I click on it, it just gives me the panel menu
[20:24] <`mOOse`> ok, now I got the launcher
[20:24] <`mOOse`> no choices in there to lock/unlock
[20:24] <vinnl> I believe "Locked" was just an entry in the right-click menu of a launcher
[20:25] <`mOOse`> when I right click on the icon the menu comes up for the panel and the launcher entry is at the top of that menu, but it's greyed out
[20:28] <`mOOse`> I think I'm nuking my xp/win7 dual boot and installing xubuntu and win7 on here
[20:29] <vinnl> Oh OK, then perhaps I'm wrong about any lock functionality
[20:29] <`mOOse`> I can't seem to figure it out (no surprise there)
[22:04] <homebrewcider> Hi there, I have a fresh installation of Xubuntu 9.10. Auto login fails every time and I get taken to a manual login screen. It takes usually between 4 and 8 attempts to login using my user name and password. How can I check the cause of the problem. I'm assuming there's a log somewhere but don't know what to look for.