[15:48] <sbalneav> Morning all
[16:19] <damianos_> hello
[16:21] <damianos_> I saw that italc is listed as an included package in the latest edubuntu 9.10 dvd. Is the italc client automatically added to the thin client image too?
[16:52] <Damianos> Hi everyone
[16:54] <Damianos> I have just a general question... I see italc is an included package in the DVD. Is the client auto installed on the thin client image when installing edubuntu with ltsp?
[17:01] <sbalneav> Damianos: Not sure, off the top of my head.
[17:10] <Damianos> I guess I will just have to install and see. Is italc recommended for school lab management?
[17:15] <sbalneav> Damianos: Yes, it's the default lab management app.
[17:16] <Damianos> Great! Thank you. I'm looking forward to the installation
[20:46] <sbalneav> Holey mackeral
[20:46] <sbalneav> So, as a *completely* arbitrary measurement:
[20:46] <sbalneav> Boot thin client
[20:46] <sbalneav> log in
[20:46] <sbalneav> let settle for 2 minutes
[20:47] <sbalneav> check free ram on thin client
[20:47] <sbalneav> launch firefox
[20:47] <sbalneav> browse to planet.gnome.org
[20:47] <sbalneav> check free ram again
[20:48] <sbalneav> 843860 - 830412 = 13448 or 13 megs ram used on thin client with firefox
[20:48] <sbalneav> do same procedure, but launch epiphany:
[20:49] <sbalneav> 843888 - 843724 = 164 K of ram.
[20:50] <sbalneav> I suspect there'll be some convergence with sustained browsing, but holey mackeral.
[20:54] <alkisg> I think firefox, Qt and openoffice use the local ram for pixmaps... gtk apps don't
[20:54] <alkisg> (neither webkit if I remember well)
[20:55] <alkisg> I had a problem with my nvidia drivers last week, every time I suspended/resumed my laptop, all pixmaps were corrupted
[20:55] <alkisg> So I could visually see which program used pixmaps for which areas of its window :)
[20:56] <alkisg> I wonder if there's an X setting to disable pixmaps completely
[21:00] <alkisg> Ah, I even got a screenshot of corrupted cached pixmaps: http://imagebin.org/83555
[21:06] <sbalneav> Well, all pixmap cacheing is is just asking the X server to allocate you some ram, then you use the ram to save your pixmaps
[21:07] <sbalneav> there's no "cache pixmap" primitive in X
[21:07] <sbalneav> It'd be like asking to turn off malloc() :)
[21:07] <sbalneav> One supposes you could do it, but your system wouldn't boot very fast :)
[21:08] <sbalneav> i.e. not at all :)
[21:11] <sbalneav> Actually, what you're doing is simply allocating more pixmaps that you're actually displaying within the graphcal viewport
[21:11] <sbalneav> Anyone know of a place where I can get the H264 codec?
[21:12] <sbalneav> Wonder if that place that does professional gstreamer development has 'em
[21:12] <sbalneav> fluendo
[21:14] <sbalneav> http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/complete-set-of-playback-plugins/
[21:14] <sbalneav> ah, yeah
[21:14] <sbalneav> they've got an h.264 codec