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BenkinoobyChr1z: Kicker -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Service Manager ?00:05
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AllenHey guys i have a little question.. i currently have ubuntu running on vmware... is there a way to on login login to kubunutu (KDE) instead of (gnome)00:41
Allenlike is there some particiular option i have to enable or some patch i have to install?00:41
Rav3nSw0rdIs there a way for me to disable kdm from autostarting every reboot? I'd like to log in from a tty session and if I want to use the gui, start it manually.00:45
jtholmestried everything but broadcom b43 wireless pcmcia card just wont get a dhcp address, scanning etc all works but no dhcp address any ideas00:47
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xpshey. i'm trying to install a downloaded .deb file but it refuses to install because it is a i386 program and i am running the amd64 version of 9.10. I thought the 64bit could still run 32bit code...?00:51
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wardred_you'd have to remove it from the default run level Rav3n00:59
wardred_For Ubuntu I'd have to google the command to do that as it's not something I do often.00:59
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Bsimsfullscreen isn't working for me on Ubuntu Karmic any ideas?01:08
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Rav3nSw0rdwardred_: I've seen the way to remove gdm from ubuntu, but removing it the same way from kubuntu doesnt work, I've already removed kdm and x11 services, but kdm still starts, lol, it's really quite persistant01:12
wardred_Hrm...01:15
avihay_Allen: you have to install KDE, and before you next login, select the KDE session from the sessions list01:21
yoPardus 2009.1 review http://distrocheck.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/pardus-2009-1-review/01:22
zoot365Hi, I'm using karmic.  it won't read my ntfs drive.01:36
zoot365ubotu01:38
zoot365oops...01:38
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deusrhi01:47
deusrsomeone help me?01:47
deusrhttp://pastebin.com/m5146723c01:47
deusrthe kmix does not appear on the computer of my aunt is gone, do not know how, because she lives in another city and do not know what he did, ms does not appear01:49
deusrhello01:54
Bsimshowdy01:54
deusrkmix no open in systray01:55
deusrhttp://pastebin.com/m5146723c01:55
deusrBsims, the kmix does not appear on the computer of my aunt is gone, do not know how, because she lives in another city and do not know what he did, ms does not appear01:55
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gojann-buntuholas01:56
Bsimskmix is replaced with pulseaudio volume01:57
yesitisjustmemy baud rate says 9600 if i try to higher the baud rate can i damage the modem?01:57
gojann-buntuno speek spanish?01:57
kaddi_!es01:58
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:58
gojann-buntutanks!!!01:58
nadermanhey everyone, when I try to connect to a network knetworkmanager just doesn't do anything at all, anyone have any idea why?01:59
nadermanI fill in the dialogue with security settings etc. then click ok and nothing happens01:59
nadermanthe network I added also doesn't show up in the list of wireless networks in the management view01:59
deusr??02:00
deusr:/02:00
nadermansyslogd says:02:01
nadermanFeb  5 02:50:46 Chaumont NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): device state change: 2 -> 3 (reason 0)02:01
nadermanFeb  5 02:50:46 Chaumont NetworkManager: <info>  Unmanaged Device found; state CONNECTED forced. (see http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889)02:01
nadermanFeb  5 02:50:46 Chaumont kernel: [533097.924373] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready02:01
nadermanFeb  5 02:50:46 Chaumont NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): supplicant interface state:  starting -> ready02:01
FloodBotK3naderman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.02:01
deusrhelp me ??02:01
deusrhttp://pastebin.com/m5146723c02:01
jc0694how do you change the master volume?02:17
jc0694nevermind02:19
yesitisjustmeanyone know wich baud rate i should put?02:19
geniiyesitisjustme: Weren't you here hours ago wondering if 9600 baud was some good setting for a Sprint wireless connection?02:24
yesitisjustmeya but i still haven't gotten a answer on wich baud rate i choose type in02:25
yesitisjustmechoose= should02:25
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geniiyesitisjustme: The thing is, a wifi connection shouldn't even have any kind of baud setting to begin with02:26
yesitisjustmeis a sprint usb wireless02:26
yesitisjustmeoh02:26
nadermansolved my problem ... ~/.kde/share/config/networkmanagementrc file was owned by root, it'd be great if you actually got an error message about that or could find that in a log anywhere rather than just silent failure without any explanation :/02:27
kaddi_happy to hear you solved your problem naderman :) And thanks for posting the solution here. :)02:28
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hippoHi everyone.02:30
hippoCan somebody tell me how to disable away messages in Quassel? They don't seem to be enable though.02:30
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nadermanhmm ok but apparently name resolution still doesn't work :( anyone have an idea if that could be a permissions issue too?02:35
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Tabmowjimmy51_: should still work...03:23
Tabmoweek03:23
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Angeluxwho installer urban terror ?04:11
Wolfcastle_hello04:11
genii!hi04:12
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!04:12
Angelux¡es04:12
Angelux!es04:12
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:12
DraggorHey all, been using kubuntu 9.10 for a little bit now, and my batter life compared to 9.04 is pretty terrible.  I've used powertop and all the same configuration guides, but I'm getting 1-2 hours less than the 9.04 install.  No compositing, most things minimal, etc.  Any suggestions?04:14
genii!info laptop-mode-tools04:16
ubottulaptop-mode-tools (source: laptop-mode-tools): Scripts to spin down hard drive and save power. In component main, is optional. Version 1.47-1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 105 kB, installed size 504 kB04:16
Wolfcastle_Angelux: I have installed urban terror04:17
Wolfcastle_why?04:17
hagabakawhen I reboot my computer, it doesn't automatically get a DNS. I have to use /etc/init.d/networking restart before it can resolve any hostname. any idea why?04:18
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scunizihagabaka: did you set a static ip? or is it still set on Auto eth0 (or wireless no matter)04:55
soerHello!04:55
soerWhat is it!04:56
scunizisoer: do you mean "What it is!"?04:56
genii!hi | soer04:56
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hagabakascunizi: I have auto eth0, using dhcp3-client05:03
scunizihagabaka: strange problem.. sorry I don't know the answer..05:07
Daughainhagabaka: Your router has dhcp enabled?05:08
DaughainSorry of covering ground already discussed.05:08
scuniziDaughain: nope.. continue on05:09
Daughainscunizi: Not sure I can be of much help, just figgered I would ask, though.05:10
scuniziDaughain: sure.. these things can be funky.. I've tried to set a static IP and although it works it doesn't stick through a reboot.. the "auto eth0" always takes precidence and there doesn't seem to be a way to turn it off.05:11
DaughainMy issue has usualy been with wlan0, but....=)05:12
DaughainI;ve also noticed that, with the wrong change, my system will lose auto-eth0 and auto-wlan0, then about three reboots later, it starts working again....???05:12
* Daughain shrugs.05:13
scuniziDaughain: I think the network manager appelate is a bit out of wack.. possibly it's not even that but something else in the underlying system.. just not sure.05:14
gudvinО_о05:14
gudvinрусские есть?05:14
gudvinбля05:15
Daughainscunizi: No clue. It usually happens when I manage to do something stupid and lose a desktop. =)05:15
Daughainscunizi: Right after re-install of environ it happens for about three reboots, then, everything is great again.SO I try not to lose KDE too often. =)05:15
gudvinI need an advice.Do you know some client like qip for kubuntu?05:16
scuniziDaughain: what's environ?05:16
Daughaindesktop environment.....KDE/Gnome/fluxbox/etc.05:17
DaughainI;ve managed to lose KDE about thre times so far. =)05:17
scuniziDaughain: ah.. it was the abbrivation that got me...05:18
Daughainscunizi: NP.05:19
scuniziDaughain: how have you "lost" KDE?  bombed? switched?05:19
Daughainscunizi: Twice I managed to delete a dependency while trying to remove apps....konq was one, and I forget what the other was. I forget what I did the third time.05:21
scuniziDaughain: nothing like breaking your system to learn how to fix it ;-)05:22
DaughainHOw else ya leaern how to fix it?? =)05:22
Daughainscunizi: If I dont break it, I dont learn how to use it either. =)05:23
DaughainI just wish I could remove konq w/o crashing kde.05:23
scuniziDaughain: very true.. for me .. it's a production machine I use for work.. so I don't mess with it too much.. I do that in a VM with vbox..05:23
* Daughain chuckles..05:23
* scunizi likes to reduce the pain as much as possible.05:24
Daughainscunizi: I;ve been debating about a VM. Trying to decide if I really need one, or if wine will work.05:24
DaughainThough, wine doesnt seem to want to install on this system.05:24
scuniziDaughain: vbox is great.  even if you're running kubuntu in kubuntu.. but I happen to need IE for some work sites so I run an old copy of win2kPro, crunchbang and kubuntu05:25
scuniziin there as well.05:25
Daughainscunizi: Whats crunchbang?05:25
Daughainscunizi: I need XP for my BB apps and a couple of other minor things.05:25
scuniziDaughain: it's the secret enemy of heavy WM's.. they have their own site and it's based on ubuntu.. check it out.05:26
Daughainscunizi: Umm...Whats a WM?05:26
scuniziDaughain: windows manager.. ie environment05:27
DaughainAh,ok.05:27
DaughainI tinker with it next relese......Jaiunty doesnt like my laptop. =)05:28
DaughainI need to make a list....Now waiting for two different ubuntu variants.05:29
scuniziDaughain: I'm running 8.04 ubuntu on my laptop..05:29
Daughainscunizi: I had 9.04 on mine, but it took me almost two weeks to get everything configured.......I have a gateway.05:30
scuniziDaughain: dell vostro here.. with the right vid card and wireles.. never an issue with either05:30
Daughain9.10 ran fine OOB, so.05:30
DaughainI have one of those HD sound/vid cards on this one, which caused me most of the grief.05:31
DaughainAnd, before Karmic, my sound never was quite right, either.05:31
scuniziDaughain: I have that on my desktop.. home built. xfx motherboard that needs pci=nomsi on the kernel line to boot.. weird05:32
Daughainnomsi?05:32
scuniziDaughain: yea.. it turns something off that is conflicting in the pci buss..05:32
scunizirally a bios issue.. but it took almost a week of googling to find the answer.05:33
Daughain9.10 came out two weeks after I installed 9.04, so I just went ahead and upgraded....And, we all know how well that goes, so, just did a fresh karmic install and been happy ever since. =)05:33
DaughainAh..05:33
scuniziDaughain: upgrades have been netoriously horrible for me.05:33
DaughainI have yet to see someone who has had an easy and god upgrade.05:33
DaughainAt least on 9.10.05:34
scuniziDaughain: I've been doing this since 5.04.. It's like watching your kids grow up .. time just flys05:34
Daughainscunizi: Current plan is; waiting for the 10.04 release of LinuxMCE for the desktop.05:34
* Daughain chuckles..05:35
Daughainscunizi: I;ve been sharing a system with the old lady for so long I just got the chance to start exploring it. If the system is down for a week while I try and figure out why the linux install crashed, she not gonna be happy, y'know?05:36
scuniziDaughain: ah yes.. I know it well.. my wife is still on XP.. but she needs it for work (at home). She doesn't like learning new "computer" things..05:37
Daughainscunizi: Ya, once I got comfortable with ubuntu, her desktop got it, and she bitched for a week, and has been happy ever since. =)05:38
scuniziDaughain: If I upgraded her to win7 and office (latest) she'd be lost.. I hate the "ribbon" thing MS did to office.05:38
Daughainscunizi: I dont use office, but, I cant stand 7. Got a netbook with the starter package on it, and it crashes almost daily.05:38
scuniziDaughain: starter is like xp with a makeover..05:39
Daughainscunizi: I left win7 on it because girl took it with her to visit family for a while, and, w/o me there to get linux setup, she will never manage to get online, so...05:39
Daughainscunizi: Well, the way they advertise it, it sounds like a limited version, which is fine, but, if the limited version cant stay up for 24 hrs w/o crashing, why would I spend money for a more 'advanced' version that has more ways to crap out? =)05:40
scuniziDaughain: yep05:40
DaughainIts getting UNR when she gets back.05:41
scuniziDaughain: why bother.. just put ubuntu on it if it's got enough horsepower05:41
MHz128How do I change the keybind for krunner, or "alt-F2" ?05:42
Daughainscunizi: I wanna try it. :P05:42
scuniziDaughain: do you have kde up to find the shortcut key assignment section for MHz128 ? .. MHz128 if you change the alt-F2 assignment to krunner then you should reassign another key combination for what currently pops up with that combo.05:44
DaughainI have kde up, but no clue what he is even asking.05:44
MHz128scunizi, ok, where is the short key assignment located?05:44
DaughainThis is only my third month on linux.05:45
Daughainscunizi: You in kubuntu-offtopic?05:45
scuniziDaughain: nope.. I gotta sign off.. got some stuff to do. Cya05:48
scuniziMHz128: maybe Daughain can help05:48
Daughainscunizi: Peace.05:48
DaughainMHz128: I;d love to help, but I have no clue.05:49
MHz128me neither! haha05:49
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Planetary_I just installed a 64bit version of 9.10. if i select the firefox installer to installed ff will it install a 64bit version of ff? I let konqueror install libraries that it recommended, it works too i just watched a 1080p Youtube video. How can I tell if i have the 64bit flash installed? where can I get it if i need to?  thanks06:08
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Daughain64bit flash you need to dl from thier site, no repo for it yet.06:14
DaughainStill in beta as I recall.06:14
Planetary_ok, is it worth it? is 32 ok.06:15
DaughainAnd, I dont bother with the installer thing, I delete it, but, from term ff installs whichever is compatible with your OS, so, yes, it will install 4bit.06:15
Daughain64bit, even.06:15
DaughainI dunno, I havent instaled it.06:15
DaughainToo many other things in the planning to worry about 64bit flash. =)06:17
Planetary_ok. I just want to make sure. My 64 laptop has issues with flash. flash goes grey, restarting FF restores it. I tried researching it and it seemed like i had 32bit FF with 64bit flash or something idk06:18
Planetary_what do you mean 'in the planning'? 10.04?06:19
DaughainNo, Gonna try :inuxMCE on the desktop withint the next two weeks, still tinkering with this lappy, etc...06:22
DaughainlinuxMCE, even.06:22
Planetary_ah,06:23
DaughainWaiting on lucid for this system, hoestly.06:25
Planetary_ah so i just built this computer and it turned off on me 3 times already, no warning. I go to click on somthing and bam. do you think thats a power supply thing?06:26
Planetary_whats lucid?06:26
macoPlanetary_: that or you forgot the thermal compound and its overheating06:26
macoucid is the current development version of ubuntu, due to be released in april06:27
Planetary_hmm well, I never forget to, however I did not put the heatsink on. hmm ill take it apart tomorrow06:28
DaughainLucid lynx 10.04 release.06:28
macoPlanetary_: the thermal compound wont work without a heatsink....06:28
DaughainWHat cpu, Planetary_06:28
macothe purpose of it is to conduct heat to the heatsink and up to the fan06:28
Planetary_oh ya after karmic. hope lucid is good06:29
DaughainBeen heraing 10 sec boot times on a dual core.06:29
Planetary_yes I know i have a water cooled P4 and overclock computers. this one with the issue is an athlon ii 6000+ with an amd upgrade heatsink06:30
DaughainWell, w/o a heatsink it will overheat.:P06:31
Planetary_I thought it could be related to teh cpu. maybe there is too much or too little thermal paste06:32
DaughainHey, I forgot to put the paste on my desktop when I built it, so, dont feeel too bad. =)06:34
DaughainTook me two days to figure it out.06:34
Planetary_haha what I meant was I bought the heatsink, cpu, mobo all together assembled. I never checked to see if it was done properly06:35
DaughainLOL   Ah, ok.06:36
DaughainRemember the lesson of the Xbox360. =) Never trust someone else to assemble.06:37
Planetary_I hope thats the issue, something simple like no paste is an easy fix.06:37
* Daughain nods.06:37
Daughain"A little bad will do ya."06:37
Daughainbad==dab.06:37
Planetary_haha ya i have 2 broken ones waiting to be reflowed06:37
Planetary_indeed06:37
Planetary_the xbox broke just when I got the game i wanted... i dont play them much06:38
fldcuse lm_sensors to keep an eye on the temperature :)06:38
DaughainI dont playb them at all, but, I fix them.=)06:38
DaughainSpeaking of which, I need to get around to finishing the editing on my sysmon.06:39
Planetary_I tried the temp widget but the numbers are way off like my laptop after i upgraded to 9.1006:39
DaughainI'm using a karamba sysmon in superkaramba.....Thats why I need to finish my edits. =)06:40
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Planetary_it said my cpu was 32*F06:40
DaughainLOL06:41
DaughainYa, thats a little off. =)06:41
DaughainWhats the raw output form lm-sensors showing?06:42
lukefeilgood morning06:42
DaughainSup, lukefeil06:42
Planetary_ah I left the computer off untill tomorrow. what do you mean. I can try on my latop which I am using now06:43
Daughaintyping lm-sensors in terminal.06:44
DaughainOr not....Now I need to remember the command...06:45
Planetary_command not found06:45
* Daughain nods.06:45
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DaughainTrying to remember the command...........06:45
Daughaindoh!!!!! Just type sensors.06:46
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Planetary_-*-06:46
Planetary_is taht a nod?06:46
Planetary_im installing lmsensors06:47
MHz128what is the name of the package that can apply GTK apps with KDE themes?06:47
titan_arkDaughain sup =)06:47
Daughainsuperkaramba, I think, MHz12806:47
DaughainSup, titan_ark06:47
MHz128 uh huh06:48
MHz128wrong answer06:48
DaughainMHz128: OK, I was wrong.06:48
titan_arknm flooded with classes and assignments, and trying to sort out a dual boot :P06:48
DaughainLOL06:48
DaughainWHats wrong with the dualboot?06:49
MHz128haha06:49
titan_arkyet to be able to sort out the powermanagement bug06:49
Planetary_Daughain: ok core0 and 1 are 49*C and 44  adapter is 4706:49
titan_arkeverytime the notebook recovers from sleep i am told there is no battery06:50
DaughainPlanetary_: Thats about right...06:50
Planetary_hmm i wonder why the graph is messed up06:50
Daughaintitan_ark: Yeah, that issue.....I solved mine by telling it not to sleep. =)06:50
titan_ark:D06:50
Daughaintitan_ark: Since the batt on this system is shot, its plugged in all the time anyway.06:51
titan_arkDaughain: well i found the bug has been reported and there is a fix, but i dunno how to add it and recompile the kernel06:51
titan_arkDaughain: ah :) i need to lug my book around06:51
Daughaintitan_ark: The fix requires a recompile?06:51
titan_arkhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/45396306:51
Daughaintitan_ark: Thats why I am looking for another lappy.06:52
titan_arkso they say06:52
Planetary_Daughain: I see the widget for the most part is off by C=F06:52
titan_arkDaughain: ah. found anything?06:52
Daughaintitan_ark: Bought a netbook, and girl swiped it for a trip to see her family. =(06:52
titan_arkah id like a weatherbug widget :)06:52
titan_arkDaughain: :D well you gotta keep em happy, or else ...06:52
Planetary_haha06:53
DaughainPlanetary_: I'm not using widgets. I'm using a karamba theme for my sysmon, so, I dont know anything about the widgets.06:53
Planetary_I have no idea what that is... i am using kde widgets06:53
DaughainPlanetary_: I do know that I needed to edit my karamba theme before it would display anything. =)06:53
DaughainActualy, need to get back to finishing it, too.=)06:54
DaughainPlanetary_: Try resetting the display to show C.06:54
Planetary_ok then, well Im calling it a night. thanks for input everyone06:54
DaughainHave a good one, Planetary_06:55
Planetary_you too06:55
titan_arkwhat else Daughain? sorted out that network issue you were facing?06:57
DaughainWHich one?06:58
* Daughain grins.06:58
Daughaintitan_ark: Prolly, everything is working fine right now,.06:58
titan_ark:D06:58
titan_arkokay06:58
DaughainI think I may take a shot at trying to compile 10.04.07:02
titan_arkah07:02
titan_arknice07:02
titan_arkGood luck =)07:03
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DaughainI have a few months to learnm enough to try it at least. =)07:05
DaughainThough, I do have a bunch of other stuff I need to get organized as wwell.07:05
DaughainWorking on getting this sysmon edited right, though.07:05
titan_arkthats nice :)07:07
titan_arki am just not getting the time to play with stuff07:07
titan_arkgrad school is painful07:07
DaughainWHats the command to take a look at ul and dl rates in term?07:08
Daughaintitan_ark: Trying to start a business isnt easy either. =) And, since I havent found a job, I need to et something going to bring in some cash. =)07:09
MHz128How do I use kcm-gtk to apply themes to GTK apps?07:09
MHz128it's obviously installed, only the settings manager doesn't show any options for enabling it07:10
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lyhana8_hi, I'm trying to read my memory with my ENE Technology Inc SD/MMC Card Reader08:01
lyhana8_but got nothing08:01
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Daughainlyhana8_: Is it internal?08:08
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skyperoll around abit I promise it wont hurt08:20
skypeI am so well balance I fear I will never get commited again08:20
Rav3nSw0rdI'm trying to configure my network from the terminal, but it seems that kubuntu has some gui somewhere that is taking presedence. Any ideas as to what is taking control? I want to stop it... eh, that made no sense at all, did it?08:24
lyhana8_Daughain: yep08:25
lyhana8_Daughain: here is the `lspci -v` output for it http://pastebin.com/dff29c5008:25
DaughainRav3nSw0rd: Made perfect sense......brb, cat is trying to eat my dinner...08:26
Rav3nSw0rdwhew, well, asking the question succeeded so far XD now for a working answer lol, which seems to be the hard part08:28
DaughainUsualy, exp as I have only been in linux for 3 months. =)08:28
DaughainNOw the questions is can I remember what the damn thing is called...08:29
Daughainlyhana8_: That one is beyond me. Sorry.08:30
Rav3nSw0rdupstart? init? sorry, these might be possiblilities XD  had trouble stopping kdm earlier, which was finally solved not by init.d but by upstart in init, meh, yea, so I'm guessing the network thing that's starting up is starting up somewhere in there as well... maybe08:30
DaughainThats where I'm looking right now. =)08:34
DaughainAre you running samba?08:36
Rav3nSw0rdsamba... I am at run level 5... not sure about the others08:37
DaughainI dont even know what that is, but, a samba script may be the issue, if you have mounted shares08:37
Rav3nSw0rdhmmm, I can't connect to the network from terminal... samba doesn't take control of any network settings right? iwconfig essid and ap and key and such?08:38
DaughainI dont know. I know less tha you are, just trying to give you ideas. =)08:39
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Rav3nSw0rdah, hehe, I've used ubuntu for over a about 2 years ago, switched to kubuntu about .5-1 year ago, but still a newb to all the linux technicalities XD08:40
skypetry runing " apt-get install gdm " then rebooting should solve that glitch08:40
skypeit did for me08:41
DaughainI started with Ubuntu 9.10 :P08:41
skypemake sure to select gdm when the dialog box pops up08:41
Rav3nSw0rd8.04 XD08:41
skype8.0508:41
skypeit was a better version08:41
skypemore stable and mature08:41
Rav3nSw0rdskype, your confusing, you know that? XD08:42
skypethe other versions arn't worth it08:42
skypelike the whole new product line for solid state08:42
skypetempted at buying one but again cost restrictive08:43
skypeand I like the blue swirl on the packaging however I know enough to build my own08:43
skypedarn memory so expensive08:43
skypeIts only me I own canada08:43
skypelol08:44
skypeit seems muchmusic.com is drawing that nasty look up via AXS canada's search javascript pop up bug again08:44
skypeI want 1 million I am smarter than you all08:44
skypepleasant arn't I!08:45
skypeidiots08:45
skypebye08:45
Rav3nSw0rdhm, might be if I understood that08:45
DaughainWhat command do I use to take a look at my network traffic from term?08:45
DaughainWell, that was definitely random. =)08:45
Rav3nSw0rderrr.... closest thing I know of to what you are talking about is wireshark, but that's not exactly from term though =/08:46
DaughainI know there has to be a way, since they have plasmoids to watch it.08:46
DaughainI'm tyring to integrate it into the sysmon I am using.08:46
Rav3nSw0rdno idea what a sysmon is XD08:47
DaughainI have everything working, except network traffic.08:47
Daughainsysmon==system monitor08:47
Rav3nSw0rdah08:47
DaughainI managed to find exactly one that shows as a strip across the top of my screen, so, been editing it to show what I need. =)08:48
Rav3nSw0rdoooh, like, kinda like a stock ticker?08:49
DaughainNO, I *wish* I could find a ticker.08:49
DaughainHmmm........Now there's an idea.08:49
Rav3nSw0rdaww, a shame, I'd so like one like that too XD08:49
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DaughainMebbe I shoudl see if I can edit the pidgin 'buddy ticker'..... =)08:50
Rav3nSw0rdI would so like to develop apps for kubuntu, but I don't know much of the language at all, and I can't find the darn source codes for anything despite it being open source. I'm such a failure, lol08:52
Rav3nSw0rdI'm guessing it's extremely simple, and right in front of my eyes, but Im not seeing it, lol08:53
DaughainYa know more thsan I do.......The sysmon I'm using is a karamba theme.08:53
DaughainAnd, the edits I'm making I can only pull off because I been scripting for mirc so long....Mkes no sense, biut still true. =)08:53
Rav3nSw0rdah, well, you see, I have no experience with programming except for some of what's required for classwork... I'd like to work on some of my own things, but I really suck at finding places to start XD08:55
apersonRav3nSw0rd, sudo apt-get source <package>08:56
Rav3nSw0rdhuh... that is kinda right in front of me XD where will it be saved to?08:56
DaughainI'm a mechanic. :P This is just a hobby for me.08:56
apersonRav3nSw0rd, current directory if I'm not mistaken08:56
Daughainaperson: How would I go about checking my network traffic via term?08:58
Rav3nSw0rdsweet, well, thanks, now I just need to find some good places to start, like, some places that I might understand 10% of, lol... hmmm anyone have any ideas where to get started?08:58
apersoniftop is pretty good for that08:58
apersonRav3nSw0rd, all depends on the language you're using.08:58
Rav3nSw0rdhm, well, learned a bit of c, and am currently learning java, and from what I understand, c# is kinda just a bit similar to java... oh, and the totally pointless one, visual basic XD08:59
DaughainLemme get tht installed, and we'll see if it works for me.09:01
titan_arkhey, sorry to distrupt. I wanted to know how to update a particular software09:04
DaughainThats nifty, and it refuses to show traffic.09:04
apersonDaughain, run it as root.09:04
titan_arki installed thundebird from console, but its not the latest version :P09:04
* Daughain nods........DOH!!!09:04
Rav3nSw0rdsorry, this is slightly off topic, but how much sleep/food is needed to survive? I've been awake for like 31 hours so far, lol, and ate 1 meal over the last 48 hoursish, lol. It's related since the longer I live, the more coding and debugging I can do for k/ubuntu lol09:05
apersonor with root privileges, I should say09:05
apersontitan_ark, I'd add a repository that has the latest version.09:05
titan_arkaperson: ah okay. cant seem to find that in kde :P09:06
Daughainaperson, thats a nifty little app....Now to see if I can find a way to make it work how I need it.09:06
Rav3nSw0rdwhoa, iftop looks amazing09:06
apersoniotop is another good one09:07
DaughainI need something I can convert.......Lemme take a look at iotop.09:08
apersoniotop is for io :)09:08
apersonnot network09:08
brukerim gay09:09
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titan_arkwoot new kernel update :)09:09
brukerim gay!09:09
aperson!ops | bruker09:09
ubottubruker: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, tsimpson, jpds, seth_k, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, trappist, crimsun, seth, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici, jussi01, ikonia, Mamarok, ryanakca or maco09:09
DaughainSo I just saw.........Nice to remember, if I can... =)09:09
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noaXesshi all09:10
DaughainMorning, noaXess09:11
noaXesshow can i enable desktop spread acroos multiple display? in system settings, display, multiple monitor i get just a message that i don't have this configuration..09:11
noaXessbut with nvidia settings i can do that.. is it possible to do that also over system settings? need i install anything?09:12
apersonnoaXess, you want one big desktop?09:12
apersonalso, you have a nvidia cards?09:12
noaXessaperson: yeah.. in nvidia settings i can do that..09:12
noaXessyes.09:12
apersonthen use nvidia settings09:12
noaXessif i use nvidia settings and enable the second hdm monitor it works.. but if i then go inte system settings multiple monitr it breaks the config.. is that caus i do it with nvidia-sesstings?09:13
apersonjust use nvidia-settings09:13
noaXessôka..09:13
noaXessokay.09:13
apersonif you use that, don't use anything else. nvidia settings can do anything you need09:14
titan_arkaperson: cant seem to find the repository09:14
noaXessaperson:  is it normal, the the desktop compositing will be disabled if i enable the second monitor in nvidia-settings..09:16
apersontitan_ark, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=thunderbird+ppa09:17
apersonthat search will have all you'll need09:17
apersonnoaXess, works fine over here09:17
titan_arkaperson: thx a bunch!09:17
apersontitan_ark, no problem09:18
noaXesshm..09:18
apersonnoaXess, I could never get nvidia-settings to set a desktop span though09:20
apersonI had to manually configure my xorg.conf09:20
apersonif you'd like, I can post mine09:21
PeoplesAdvocatehello all, anyone here available to help?09:23
apersonjust ask PeoplesAdvocate :)09:23
PeoplesAdvocateOk, I was making sure because I asked in the Ubuntu IRC and no one replied and there is like 1000+ people in there lol:-D09:25
titan_arkaperson: whats with the daily releaases? is it advisable?09:25
titan_arki see that ppl advise not to go in for the daily update09:26
apersontitan_ark, if you want the bleeding edge, yeah09:26
apersonI'd find something for a stable build09:26
titan_arkaperson: okay09:26
titan_arkthe ppa search seems to find repos for daily only :P09:26
PeoplesAdvocateanyways I am having trouble updating a package in my freshly installed Ubuntu Server 8.04.4. It is intltool that keeps giving me problems in building transmission-daemon. any ideas on about doing this?09:27
apersonPeoplesAdvocate, I hate to say it, but #ubuntu-server might be a better channel :/09:28
apersonthat, or #ubuntu09:28
PeoplesAdvocateahhh thanks! Didnt even cross my mind that there was such a channel. lol09:28
apersonyou just have to be patient, not everyone has time to answer every person that comes in09:29
PeoplesAdvocateI have been to ubuntu but no one could help, they were to busy arguing about a name change that someone did. lol09:29
apersonPeoplesAdvocate, ask once every ten-15 minutes09:30
PeoplesAdvocateaperson: alright, i will thanks.09:31
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noaXessaperson: that will be nice, your xorg.conf09:33
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apersonnoaXess, alright, lemme ssh into that box quick09:34
noaXessaperson: okay..09:34
apersonnoaXess, http://pastie.org/81077809:38
Rav3nSw0rdis there an application for kubuntu which can either have google wave in it's own... page, like a client, or give me a notification of when I get new waves? Or is this question better asked in a google related channel?09:39
apersonRav3nSw0rd, there's a notifier for google services09:40
Rav3nSw0rdreally? like, for more than one google thing? what's it called? sudo apt-get install <?>09:41
apersonit isn't in the repos09:41
Rav3nSw0rd*sigh* lol, knew it couldn't be that easy09:41
Rav3nSw0rdwhere can I find it?09:41
apersonsave for sounding like a jerk... google09:42
apersongoogsystray09:42
apersonsecond result for 'google wave notifier linux' :)09:42
Rav3nSw0rdah, was just about to ask for the name of it, thanks for the info aperson09:42
Rav3nSw0rdcurious, how do you know so much about so much?09:43
noaXessaperson: do you need restarting your X for aplying this config? why i ask.. i have a notebook, and sometimes i need the external display, sometimes not..09:43
apersonnoaXess, yes09:43
apersonRav3nSw0rd, I spend a lot of time on the internet, and if I don't know something, I just look it up :)09:44
apersongoogle-fu is an invaluable/powerful tool09:44
Rav3nSw0rdah, I guess I'm just bad at googling for stuff XD google-fu?09:44
jonahhey guys i'm using karmic and stuck, i need to set alsa default to dsp1 but can't as there's no alsaconf etc in karmic does anyone know how please?09:46
jonahalready set defaults in settings section under multimedia but this doesn't control flashplayer output09:46
apersonjust a sec jonah09:46
jonahand i want my usb speakers to play myspace and youtube sound09:46
apersonI just had to fix that not long ago...09:46
apersonI know it's in the ubuntu wiki...09:47
jonahaperson: ok thanks09:47
apersonjonah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems09:48
apersonany relevant info is on that page09:48
jonahaperson: can't see anything to help, i already know it's dsp1 i need i just need to set it09:49
jonahbut not sure how09:49
titan_arki just tried to install firefox 3.6 but still when i check its version it is the previous one09:49
titan_arkwhy is that?09:49
apersontitan_ark, how did you install it and from where?09:50
apersonjonah, it's there :)09:50
titan_arkaperson: i did this first: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable09:51
titan_arkfollowed by an apt-get update09:51
titan_arkthen: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.609:51
apersonthat's it :)09:51
titan_arkbut when i check now its still 3.5 :P09:52
apersonwhen you install firefox 3.6 separately09:52
aperson-when*09:52
apersonyou have two installed09:52
titan_arkwhoa09:52
titan_arkso what do i do now?09:53
apersonyou should be able to run firefox-3.609:53
titan_arki cant seem to find it in my applications list09:53
Rav3nSw0rdhm, aperson, do you know if the googsystray doesn't work with non-standard gmail accounts? It works perfectly for my standard GMail account, but my school email that runs through GMail doesn't work for some reason =/09:54
apersontitan_ark, alt+f2 then09:54
apersonRav3nSw0rd, apps for your domain?09:54
titan_arkaperson: alt+f2 and firefox still gives me the 3.509:54
titan_arkaperson: ah i see 3 updates for firefox :S09:55
titan_arklemme try that09:55
apersontitan_ark, like I said, I meant running firefox-3.6 literally :)09:55
apersonas in alt+f2 firefox-3.609:55
titan_arkah09:55
titan_arkokay shall try after this update09:56
titan_arkand supposedly there is no stable repo for thunderbird09:56
titan_arkit will be included for 10.04 only :(09:56
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apersontitan_ark, the mozillateam ppa not have it?09:57
titan_arkaperson: nope, or at least i couldnt seem to find it. ubuntuzilla does but its for 32 bit only i suppose09:58
apersonhmm09:59
titan_arkaperson: ah upgraded and lost all my tabs in the restart x-(10:01
titan_arki can never seem to remember how to install a s/w from a tar.bz10:02
titan_ark:(10:02
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titan_arkaperson: sick trying. could u pls help?10:08
Assurbanipalhello everyone. I have a pc of 2gb Ram, Cpu: q9550, nvidia 7800gtx,1 sata hd(root/home),1sata DVDRW,1 Ide HD. When i tranfer files from a partition to another/a hd to another or to a usb stick, i face very very slow transfer rate and the system becomes unusable because of cpu usage. What is happening? I am trying a long time to fix that (switched through diferent kernels) but with no result. I am on kubuntu 9,10 64bit. PLZ help10:09
Assurbanipal me!10:09
apersonI stick the the version in the repos, personally10:09
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Rav3nSw0rdhm, tar -xzvf to extract a tar.bz file10:09
Rav3nSw0rdthen there's usually a readme in there that you can read10:09
Rav3nSw0rd-x for extract, z for bz, v for verbose, and I honestly don't know what the f does...10:09
apersonRav3nSw0rd, that's why there are manual pages :)10:10
Rav3nSw0rdit helps if you understand it ^_^10:10
DaughainVLC is beginning to get on my nerves...10:10
Rav3nSw0rdlike, what does "use file or device archive" mean? =/10:11
Vroomfondleit means use a file or a device, rather than expecting input from stdin10:12
Rav3nSw0rdso if you don't put the -f there, you can specify the directory name?10:13
apersonI use unp and not worry about usage flags :)10:13
titan_arkDaughain: VLC? what happened? I am struggling with thunderbird update10:13
Vroomfondle(you can pipe data into tar via a command-line e.g. "myprogramwotgeneratesdata | tar"10:13
DaughainVLC is th only thing that seems to be able to detect my soundcard and actualy use it. SO, ofcourse, it keeps crashing.10:13
VroomfondleRav3nSw0rd: no, if you don't put the -f it will expect you to pipe data in as above10:13
Vroomfondlerather than it reading a file10:13
Rav3nSw0rdah10:14
titan_arkdamn10:14
Rav3nSw0rdok, I think I get it now, and how do you specify a directory name? tar -xzvf <tar.bz file>  to myfolder?10:14
noaXessaperson: what nvidia driver do you have installed? i have a flicker problem with mine.. see here.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133771610:15
apersonnoaXess, 185.18.3610:16
noaXessoka.y.10:16
apersoninstalled via envyng10:16
Daughainwell, let see if this will not crash.10:18
noaXessaperson: just installing 195.30 from vdpau..10:19
aperson Daughain #videolan is on this network fwiw10:19
BugsbaneAnyone know if there are plans to package a more recent version of Koffice (>2.02 ) for Lucid?10:19
Daughainaperson: HUnh?10:20
apersonDaughain, if you're having issues with vlc, they can help you :)10:21
apersonI was having vlc segment faults10:21
apersonthey helped me out pretty quick10:21
DaughainI'm actualy having sound issues. VLC just happens to be the only thing that will recognize my sound card.10:21
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skype#Bangs Head Rocks out Jamming *Listening to MuchLoud*10:29
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Assurbanipalhello everyone. I have a pc of 2gb Ram, Cpu: q9550, nvidia 7800gtx,1 sata hd(root/home),1sata DVDRW,1 Ide HD. When i tranfer files from a partition to another/a hd to another or to a usb stick, i face very very slow transfer rate and the system becomes unusable because of cpu usage. What is happening? I am trying a long time to fix that (switched through diferent kernels) but with no result. I am on kubuntu 9,10 64bit. PLZ help10:33
Assurbanipal me!10:33
apersonAssurbanipal, I think that's a known bug, if it's the one I'm thinking of10:35
apersonthough I haven't seen cpu spikes, I've just seen painfully slow file transfers across partitions10:37
apersonthe fix for it is in 2.6.3210:38
Assurbanipalaperson: so what can i do?install a different kernel?10:38
apersonAssurbanipal, apart from filing a bug report, no idea :/10:39
nnn0is there any unusual logging activity ?10:40
nnn0and have you checked the mode with hdparm -i or something10:40
Assurbanipalif i install 2.6.33-rc from kernel.ubuntu.com will it help?10:40
Assurbanipalnnn0: i don't really understand what u say..10:41
nnn0if your disk is sda, try: hdparm -i /dev/sda10:41
nnn0look for the mode with the star *10:41
nnn0you would have to do that from root10:41
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nnn0or use sudo10:42
Assurbanipalhttp://pastebin.com/d5c47695010:42
nnn0looks good10:42
Assurbanipalso,what now?10:43
nnn0hm10:43
nnn0have you tried to run top ?10:43
nnn0you should see whats using cpu10:43
Assurbanipalwhile copying u meen?10:44
nnn0yeah10:44
nnn0and have you checked the logs ?10:44
apersonI'd check the file transfer speed with dd, that's what I was reading in the bug reports10:44
apersonand does the speed start out fine, and drop?10:45
apersonor does it start out slow?10:45
Assurbanipalit starts and then drops...10:45
Assurbanipalin top, nothning seems to use my cpu that hard, but i have a plasmoid of cpu usage that shows all 4 cores are 100% used and the system doesn't respond10:46
nnn0have you checked the logs ?10:48
nnn0i use multitail usually10:48
nnn0:)10:48
nnn0sudo apt-get install multitail10:48
nnn0multitail /var/log/messages10:48
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apersonwhat does multitail do?10:49
nnn0tail files10:51
nnn0you'll see the end of the file10:52
apersonwell... I gathered that10:52
nnn0updating as it goes10:52
apersonit does multiple files?10:52
nnn0multitail can show you several files at the same time10:52
apersonah10:52
nnn0with highlighting10:52
apersonI was wondering what it offered over watch10:52
nnn0:)10:53
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nnn0you could also try to install sysstat11:03
nnn0and use iostat for more info11:04
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Wolfcastlehello11:15
Wolfcastlei installed some new splash screens but they don't appear in the list in system settings11:15
Wolfcastlemaybe the files get downloaded somewhere and I can add them manually?11:15
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Wolfcastlehow come kubuntu does not have an artwork theme?11:24
Wolfcastlethere are some community made ready to use11:24
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tiagofilipedoes anyone knows how to make fb keys work in a vaio fz21m?11:52
tiagofilipeI tried everything and just can't make it work11:53
reddragon45anyone in here to provide help?11:54
tiagofilipe11:54
aperson!patience11:54
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.11:54
reddragon45ok11:54
tiagofilipeyeah11:54
tiagofilipeI tryed the ubuntu forums and nothing to11:54
reddragon45my Kubuntu cd will not boot up live or install11:55
tiagofilipeand even forums from other distributions11:55
tiagofilipereally?11:55
tiagofilipethat's odd11:55
apersonreddragon45, does the md5 match?11:55
tiagofilipedid you check your bios for the boot order?11:55
reddragon45It worked when i got it two times from live boot but now nothing11:56
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BluesKajHowdy12:59
kaddihi :)12:59
BluesKajstill trying to figure out how to rid chrome -beta of those annoying bongo drum sounds when clicking on tabs etc13:01
kaddinever used chrome. sorry.13:03
kaddithe google newsgroup suggests that there is a --disable-audio switch, but that might kill sound entirely and not just the tabswitching sounds.13:04
kaddihttp://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=3b9f4cab1f94aed1&hl=en13:04
Peace-BluesKaj: sudo apt-get remove --purge mystuff13:05
BluesKajPeace-, that sounds dangerous13:06
Peace-BluesKaj: that rimove the software = mystuff13:06
Peace-for example sudo apt-get remove --purge kdenlive13:07
Peace-that removes kdenlive13:07
Peace-and stop13:07
llutz"apt-get purge package"  no "remove --" needed since a while13:07
BluesKajPeace-, what is "my stuff" on google-chrome ?13:08
DaughainI;dlike to know how to watch a dvd. =)13:08
Peace-!dvd | Daughain13:08
ubottuDaughain: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats13:08
DaughainPeace, if it was that simple, I would be enjoying my movie. :P13:09
kaddiPeace-: BluesKaj wants to disable certain sounds in chrome, not get rid of chrome entirely...13:09
Peace-kaddi: oh13:09
BluesKajI don't want to purge google chrome , just rid the sounds it makes when clicking on tabs13:10
Peace-BluesKaj: but you have installed google-chrome or crhoumim ?13:10
Peace-i suggest to test chromium ....13:10
Peace-and remove google-chrome13:10
BluesKajalready ran chromium for a while, I prefer chrome-beta13:11
kaddiDaughain: what have you tried so far? And what exactly isn't working?13:11
Peace-BluesKaj: mm i am sorry then... i have never used chrome-beta13:11
buckfastHi. For some reason, by Grub2 menu is all messed up. It loads Kubuntu but not other operating systems. How can I fix this13:12
BluesKajPeace-, it looks almost exactly the same but it crashes and freezes mor often than beta13:12
Peace-buckfast: have you tried sudo update-grub213:12
DaughainVLC, dragon, and totem. NOne are working. Totem crashes as soon as it tries to play, Dragon shows one still screen.....And VLC says it cant read the disk.13:13
BluesKajbuckfast, sudo update-grub , first of all13:13
BluesKajDaughain, do you have a windows OS to test it ?13:14
Peace-Daughain: ffplay myvstuff13:14
buckfastPeace-: BluesKaj: Okay, did this, and it seemed to have gone fine, found all the OS-es. Should it work now?13:14
DaughainBlueEagle: Test what? The hardware?13:14
Peace-buckfast: try to reboot13:14
BluesKajbuckfast, yes it should , reboot into another OS to check13:15
DaughainErr.... BluesKaj , Windows to test what?13:15
BluesKajthe dvd13:15
DaughainThe hardware, or the disk itself?13:15
BluesKajthe disk13:15
Peace-teh disk...13:15
DaughainStore bought copy of the HUlk, and I;ve watched it before....13:16
* Peace- robooting to lucid13:17
BluesKajthere are some issues with dvds on karmic , if you don't have the kubuntu-restricted-extras and libdvdcss2 installed13:17
DaughainI have bnoth ubuntu and kubuntu restricted extras13:18
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DaughainDisk is playing fine on this laptop.13:19
BluesKajyou don't need both13:19
DaughainI wanted to watch it on the desktop. Will not play on that system.13:19
BluesKajdoes your desktop play other dvdx?13:20
BluesKajerr dvds13:20
DaughainDOresnt seem to, the first one I tried was an import, so, I switched to a diff dvd, still nothing.13:20
DaughainOK, I give up for now.....Night, all.13:24
BluesKajDaughain, I think you may have a brohken cdrom13:28
merlin38test13:31
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BluesKajDaughain, have you installed w32codecs , or if you run 64bit, w64codecs13:45
merlin38Why nobody speak here ?14:02
Vroomfondlebecause we've nothing to say.14:02
merlin38ok i was wondering if i has something wrong. First irc !14:03
joe_im having trouble loading the Nvidia driver (the one from Nvidia directly)  I start up, then hit control tab F1, then I log on and do a sudo service kdm stop, then I try to run the sudo sh Nvidia and it says X is running??!!??  I do seeeee a kdm-greet process but a kill -9 will not even kill it14:03
merlin38and french speaking furthermore !14:03
VroomfondleAh. You're doing fine.14:03
Vroomfondlethere is a French channel by the way, in case you have not heard.14:03
Vroomfondle!fr14:03
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr14:03
merlin38thanks14:04
merlin38why don't u use nvidia from repository ?14:05
joe_merlin38, I don't want to and thats not my question14:06
Vroomfondletried the old-fashiioned "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"?14:06
merlin38sorry! A french habit that make exactly try english forum and irc. Whe respond other when we do not know the real respoonse !14:07
joe_Vroomfondle, doesnt that say we should be using service now instead?  Upstart u know...14:08
VroomfondleI haven't tried on the latest release, tbh14:08
VroomfondleI'd presumed that it would still work14:09
Vroomfondleelse there're probably quite a lot of broken admin scripts out there right now ;)14:09
kaddiwhen did /etc/init.d/kdm stop start working again? -.-14:11
joe_When I do a sudo service kdm stop.... Why does the process kdm_greet still exist?  and I can't kill it with pkill or kill -9 its an undead zombie! =P14:11
kaddijoe_: you could try booting into recovery mode, that shouldn't give you no gui and let you copy what you need to copy14:12
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joe_Why after I stop kdm is the Nvidia installer claiming that X is still running?14:13
BluesKajjoe_, you must stop it from the tty14:14
joe_BluesKaj, how?14:15
kaddiwhere do I check which language i have installed on my system? I seem to have a weird mix of German and English currently :s14:18
BluesKajjoe_, alt+ctrl+F1 , then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop14:21
BluesKajno patience14:21
kaddihehe14:22
[-Haza-]sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0551, should be 0440  <- when trying to run a sudo command... not a good thing? ;(14:24
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genii[-Haza-]: Very much not a good thing. The only way to fix is with boot from livecd and then to change the permissions that way. The local box is locked out now from itself14:26
[-Haza-]genii: oh dear.... how the hell did i do this?14:27
Wolfcastlehello14:27
Wolfcastleis it possible to install different independent versions of kde?14:27
WolfcastleI would like to try 4.4 without having to eliminate 4.314:27
genii[-Haza-]: Most likely with some command like: chmod      but with wrong options14:27
[-Haza-]genii: I think you're right! i think i made a type and chmod'ed the wrong directory :s14:28
[-Haza-]too many ../../../ 's14:28
scunizi[-Haza-]: sometimes using <TAB> helps auto complete14:29
genii[-Haza-]: Well, as I said you need to boot from livecd now to repair.14:29
[-Haza-]scunizi: indeed14:29
[-Haza-]genii: Okay, im running kubuntu 8.x, can i use a kubuntu 9.x live CD to recover this?14:31
genii[-Haza-]: So if you do now in Konsole:  mount         and then look for the line which says what /dev   that  /    is on, after cd booting, do: sudo mount /dev/that-name-it-reports-goes-here  /mnt            and then: sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers14:31
genii[-Haza-]: Yes any livecd will do14:31
[-Haza-]Gotcha14:32
[-Haza-]genii: This line? /dev/sda5 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)14:34
genii[-Haza-]: Yup, so thats the one you want to run the commands on from the cd14:38
geniiApologies on lag, working here14:38
[-Haza-]genii: Hey no problmes at all. Appreciate the help!! :)14:40
[-Haza-]*problems14:40
genii[-Haza-]: Keep in mind other files there may also be screwy now too14:40
[-Haza-]genii: Yeah i fear i may have done alot of damage.. should be so lazy14:40
genii(if you did some recursive chmod on the whole directory of /etc )14:40
[-Haza-]or no i was lucky not to use -r14:40
[-Haza-]but i think the command imust have run was chmod +x ../*14:41
[-Haza-]../ happens to be the /etc dir and NOT the dir i wanted14:41
genii[-Haza-]: Well, after you have the sudoers straightened out, you can fix it14:41
[-Haza-]genii: Okay, Im going to reboot and load the live CD. execute the command you mentioned above and i'll (hopefully) be back :D14:42
geniiSee you then14:43
badrHi15:04
kaddi!hi | badr15:04
ubottubadr: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!15:04
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badrwhat is new in ubuntu 9.1015:05
miquel_Hi! I cannot play my music with Amarok 2.2.2 with my user. I must use root user if I want that Amarok works15:06
miquel_I use Kubuntu 9.1015:06
miquel_I have reinstalled Amarok but any change. I have reinstalled Kubuntu but any change15:07
miquel_How do I know Photon and Alsa is working correctly?15:08
sparagnippideciao a tutti15:16
sparagnippide!list15:16
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »15:16
afd_hi! I'm trying to install KDE on ubuntu Lynx and I get this: http://dpaste.com/155000/15:20
afd_Any ideas what I can do?15:20
Mamarokafd_: please ask in #ubuntu+1, all thinks regarding Lucid should go there15:22
miquel_From Amarok in debugger mode I get this message: [EngineController] [WARNING!] Phonon failed to play this URL. Error:  "Cannot find demultiplexer plugin for MRL [file://home/miquel/M%C3%BAsica/01 We Are Golden.mp3]"15:25
miquel_I think I have a problem in Phonon. I don't know what is this and how could I solve it15:26
_Rockethi15:29
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_Rockethow can i remove all packages installed from the repository with origin = LP-PPA-ricotz-unstable ?15:30
afd_what about this http://dpaste.com/155000/ error?15:37
Mamarokrockdisable the repository, then the packages should show as obsolete15:38
afd_Mamarok: which repository?15:38
Mamarokoops, wrong completion15:38
Mamarokafd_: that was not for you, sorry15:38
afd_oh, sorry15:38
Mamarok_Rocket: see above15:38
afd_I was hoping for an answer :)15:39
Mamarokafd_: and you should really ask in #ubuntu+1, we do not handle Lucid support here15:39
afd_ok15:39
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_RocketMamarok: how to disable it?15:43
Mamarok_Rocket: which package manager are you using?15:44
_Rocketapt-get15:44
Mamarok_Rocket: then you need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment or remove the PPA there15:45
_Rocketi already tried it15:45
Mike1hey! How much RAM does Kubuntu need approximately? I guess the good old 256MB are not enough anymore ;-)15:45
_Rocketand it doesn't work15:45
MamarokMike1: it wokrs, but very slow15:45
Mamarokworks*15:45
Mike1Mamarok: how much do you recommend for normal use? 512MB at least?15:46
Mamarok_Rocket: well, it will not be removed automatically, you need to tell it to remove those packages15:46
MamarokMike1: yes, more if you want to have compositing15:46
_Rocketso i tried also dist-upgrade, it should downgrade these packages15:47
Mamarok_Rocket: normally aptitude can do that very well, run sudo aptitude update and it will suggest to remove the obsolete packages15:47
Mike1Mamarok: okay, thanks for the info. Just writing an article about Ubuntu on old hardware in the german ubuntuusers-wiki :-)15:47
Mamarok_Rocket: unlikely, if those are newer version you will have to remove those explicitely15:47
MamarokMike1: it's the same for Gnome BTW15:48
Mike1Mamarok: does it not run quite well with 256MB or 384MB?15:48
MamarokMike1: both use the same amount for the libraries15:49
Mike1Mamarok: I once read from a quite trustworthy user that the requirements of GNOME have stayed the same since some time …15:49
Mike1*for some time15:49
MamarokMike1: so if you want to run compositing smoothly with Gnome or KDE you will need more than 512 MB anyway15:49
Tm_TMamarok: more than?15:50
MamarokMike1: so did the KDE requirements15:50
MamarokTm_T: to run compositing smoothly I said, it does run below, but it will be awfully slow15:50
kaddithe latest kernel update is amazing! :)15:50
* Mike1 is glad that he does not run GNOME or KDE :D15:50
Tm_TMamarok: hmm, depends ofcourse, but yeah it requires bit more of ram15:50
geniiMike1: I have a P3 which runs KDE on 384 but *JUST* . and without compositing15:50
MamarokMike1: it always depends on the applications you want to run anyway15:51
Mamarokrunning 10 apps + compositing will likely be very limit in both desktops15:51
Tm_TI have laptop running KDE4 with compositioning pretty well and 256 MiB ram15:51
Mamarokwiht less than 512 MB15:51
MamarokTm_T: how fast is your graphic card?15:52
Mamarokhe was talking about old hardware15:52
Tm_TMamarok: ati 920015:52
Mamarokso I assume a slow graphic card15:52
Mamarokwhich is not exactly slow :)15:52
Mike1Mamarok: yes, that’s something people often forget when looking at „needs XY MB of RAM” ;-)15:52
Tm_TMamarok: is not fast either (:15:52
Tm_Tanyway, running apps are more limiting factor than DE15:53
MamarokMike1: so if you have a fast graphic card of course you will use less RAM for the graphics15:53
Mike1Tm_T: is it a default KDE4? what apps do you run on it?15:53
geniiTm_T: On that P3 sometimes stuff takes 7-10 seconds after clicking before the cursor goes into "I'm doing something now"15:53
Tm_Tgenii: ouch15:53
Mike1Mamarok: my “yes, …” was meant for your “depends on the applications …” message15:54
Mamarokgenii: that sounds like a very slow processor15:54
Tm_TMike1: not default, I drop nepomuk, strigi and akonadi entirely and then I avoid running too many apps simultaneously, Konqueror as browser15:54
MamarokMike1: the graphic card has an influence, too15:54
geniiMamarok: Pentium 3 800, 6Gb hd,384Mb ram, 100Mhz bus15:54
Mike1Mamarok: if it’s a shared-memory one, but else?15:54
Mamarokgenii: sounds very slow15:55
MamarokPentium 3 was ages ago15:55
binarylooksAre nepomuk and akonadi really such memory hogs? I thought strigi alone would cause real slow downs at times15:55
geniiYes, it can be painful. Mostly it's a testing box15:55
Mike1Mamarok: very slow? Atom 1,6GHz isn’t that much faster …15:55
MamarokMike1: but it doesn't work the same way internally15:56
Tm_Tbinarylooks: no, but when you have only 256 MiB of ram, every bit counts, and nepomuk and akonadi each takes over 10 MiB I believe15:56
* Mamarok checks the Nepomuk/Strigi/Akonadi use15:56
daskreechMamarok: KDE4 requirements have dropped15:57
daskreechMike1: I'm glad you don't run them either :)15:57
binarylooksTm_T: I am a bit afraid that new users immediately think that nepomuk is bad when people on forums declare it as evil memory users15:57
daskreechIsn't choice grand :-)15:57
binarylooksThey miss a lot of cool stuff by disabling it, whereas strigi is not really useful15:58
Tm_Tbinarylooks: nah, it's not bad for modern hardware15:58
MamarokTm_T: Nepomuk runs almost nothing here, virtuoso is at 20, but X is taking up 300 MB15:58
* Mamarok has 4 GB though15:58
Mamarokso of course my apps have more available15:58
binarylooksTm_T: 256 Mb really sounds anciant :-)15:58
Tm_TMamarok: that's the thing, Nepomuk needs those backends and services (:)15:58
daskreechbinarylooks: NEpomuk is trying to keep an index of your drives  in RAM so I guess since most people have a dispportinate size ratio of RAM to drive space it would make some heavy use of RAM15:58
BluesKajI dumped virtuoso , it doesn't do anything for me15:59
MamarokBluesKaj: then you don't have Nepomuk15:59
Tm_Tanyway, time to kick this machine ->15:59
binarylooksdaskreech: I thought nepomuk handles tags, strigi keeps the index of files and their contents?16:00
daskreechbinarylooks: Keeps it in nepomuk if I recall correctly16:00
BluesKajyeah nepomuk is quite useless me too , i don't the point of it16:00
binarylooksdaskreech: hmmm, I might read up on that. I am not sure16:00
BluesKajfor me16:00
binarylooksBluesKaj: thats ok, it still is in its initial stage16:01
BluesKajbinarylooks, most files I need , I can find with the run box16:02
binarylooksBluesKaj: but the krunner gets its information from somewhere16:02
eagles0513875hey guys i need some help16:03
eagles0513875i just installed karmic on my usb hdd and for some reason im unable to use apt to uninstall anything or install anythign it keeps giving me an error16:03
binarylookseagles0513875: its easier if you immediately ask a question without warning us16:03
eagles0513875binarylooks: and i asked the question16:03
BluesKajbinarylooks, maybe i don't understand nepomuk's uses clearly , so telling me about krunner doesn't help :)16:03
eagles0513875let me pastbin the error im getting16:04
binarylooksBluesKaj: same for me actually :-)16:04
ilumiwhat is a good device to make it a linux media player? aka portable16:04
badri cannot use my camera benq 1300 in ubuntu 9.1016:07
* Mamarok wonders where that pastebin URL ended up...16:07
binarylooksbadr: #ubuntu16:07
eagles0513875Mamarok: maybe you can help me out but im not sure my question is about16:09
eagles0513875above16:09
eagles0513875and here is the pastebin to go with my question16:09
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Mamarokeagles0513875: where?16:09
eagles0513875basically Mamarok my problem is with apt after installing karmic to an external usb hard drive i get the errors as follows in the paste http://pastebin.com/m2c7bea1116:10
r00t_How do i upgrade ktorrent to its latest version? Also how do i check to see what versioni have now?16:10
binarylookseagles0513875: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.lst16:11
Mamarokeagles0513875: check your sources.list, something is missing there16:11
geniieagles0513875: Does: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/                      show the file "status-old" as being there and larger than 0 size?16:11
eagles0513875all repos are there just looked16:11
eagles0513875hold on16:11
eagles0513875binarylooks: http://pastebin.com/m360f3f0e16:11
mahasamootwhen is 10.4 due?16:12
eagles0513875!lucid | mahasamoot16:12
ubottumahasamoot: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+116:12
eagles0513875genii: and yes its larger then 016:12
binarylooksmahasamoot: the 10 means 2010, the 4 means april16:13
Mike1it is stable on my PC, ubottu is wrong!16:13
geniieagles0513875: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status             and then try the apt-get update   or so again16:14
eagles0513875genii: ok16:14
MamarokMike1: this is not up to discussion here16:14
mahasamootbinarylooks: thank you16:14
eagles0513875Mike1: join ubuntu+1 for lucid discussion16:14
eagles0513875ty genii :) that did the trick16:15
geniieagles0513875: np16:15
mahasamootif I want to use btrfs, am I better out with 9.10 or 10.4?16:15
* eagles0513875 learned somethign new today16:15
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Mamarokeagles0513875: just don't forget it, Knotes is nice for remembering16:16
binarylooksKnotes with akonadi will rock ! :-)16:16
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eagles0513875well Mamarok genii suggested i put sync in fstab so it doesnt happen again16:18
Mamarokeagles0513875: writre it down, I know you will forget it16:19
binarylooksI tried basket4 from git yesterday, really cool16:19
eagles0513875basket i really like16:20
eagles0513875!info basket16:20
ubottubasket (source: basket): a multi-purpose note-taking application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3.1-0ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 4866 kB, installed size 7592 kB16:20
eagles0513875:) glad ot see its still about i heard the original dev was no longer going to work on it but i contacted him and he said someone else was taking over16:20
Mike1binarylooks, eagles0513875: is it possible to set alarms with Basket?16:21
eagles0513875Mike1: dunno i havent used it in a lil bit as i have been off linux16:21
eagles0513875but now that i have an install on my external hdd im going ot install it again16:21
binarylookseagles0513875: it will be released on feb 12th or something16:21
eagles0513875binarylooks: new version of it?16:22
binarylookseagles0513875: yep, the website is not up to date yet. check the kubuntu-devel mailing list for info16:22
binarylookseagles0513875: there is a ppa with snapshots16:22
eagles0513875nice16:22
eagles0513875i might just go to the site and grab the source16:22
eagles0513875dunno what it is with me but i like compiling stuff from source16:23
BluesKajwell, some apps aren't available in the repos , so I occasionally compile , usually linux versions of windows apps16:24
Mike1compiling is cool … if it works16:25
jasj#openbravo-es16:31
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r00t_How do i upgrade ktorrent to its latest version? Also how do i check to see what versioni have now?16:52
binarylookshow do I get python plasmoids running in karmic with kde sc rc2?16:52
binarylooksr00t_: check in the about dialogue16:53
r00t_I have ktorent version 3.24 how do i upgrade tot eh current version of 3.3.?16:55
binarylooksr00t_: karmic?16:55
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r00t_binarylooks:  Is karmic stable yet? thats the new *buntu right?16:56
binarylookskarmic is the current stable ubuntu16:56
binarylooksthe new one will be lucid in april16:56
r00t_how do i see what version of kubutnu ihave?16:56
r00t_lsmod something?16:56
werfactr00t_: uname -a16:57
Vroomfondlelsb_release -a16:57
binarylooks^that gives the kernel number16:57
Vroomfondleuname will give kernel number. lsb_release will give Kubuntu version.16:57
r00t_it says im on karmic.16:58
werfactok16:58
binarylooksr00t_: so if you fully updated, ktorent 3.3 is not in karmic yet. you will have to see if you can get it from  somewhere else16:58
r00t_Darn... Would downoading the newest ktorrent and installing it manulaly cause me to loose my current torrents? Its very important i dont loose them as i need them for work.16:59
r00t_urrent downloading torrents^17:00
binarylooksr00t_: do you know what a ppa is?17:00
r00t_Nope.17:01
binarylooksr00t_: u will not loose current torrents, but a backup is always good17:01
binarylookshmm, i have to run..ktorrent 3.3 is in ht efollowing ppa17:01
binarylooksppa:futurepilot/ppa17:01
r00t_well i actuaLLY I DO KNOW WHAT ppa is but i dont think your talking abuot phenylpropylamine17:01
binarylooksppa's are additional sources but they come with a risk, because pacages a re not really tested17:02
r00t_awesome,how do i add that to my sources.list?17:02
binarylooksr00t_: https://launchpad.net/~futurepilot/+archive/ppa17:02
binarylooksr00t_: follow from there or ask around, i have to leave now. Good luck17:03
r00t_thanks17:03
eagles0513875hey guys i have a question are these warnings something i should worry about http://pastebin.com/mf47edff17:06
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r00t_i added teh  PPA but now it says he following packages have been kept back:17:08
r00t_  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good kipi-plugins ktorrent ktorrent-data libgegl-0.0-0 libgphoto2-port0 libgpod-common libpurple0 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic mozilla-plugin-vlc neverball neverball-common17:08
r00t_  neverball-data neverputt pidgin pidgin-data vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse17:08
FloodBotK3r00t_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:08
r00t_How would i force it to just upgrade ktorrent??17:09
greyhat# klkid /path/disk  to see UUID ?17:09
greyhati mean blkid17:09
werfactr00t_: WELL, IF THERE ARE NO NEEDED PACKAGES, YOU CANT UPDATE IT17:10
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r00t_Even if thers a newer version in my repos? Thats sounds silly,there has to be someway to upgrade a package to its latest version,17:11
werfactyou cant if you cant satisfy dependencies17:12
WaltzingAlongr00t_: sudo aptitude install ktorrent ?17:26
WaltzingAlongr00t_: could be held back for various reasons - one being that the required dependencies are not (yet) available17:28
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bowserhi all, can I somehow extract RARs with passwords on a samba share?17:48
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eagles0513875is anyone else experiencing connectivity issues with konversation?18:55
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Peace-eagles0513875: mm no18:59
Peace-eagles0513875: but i am on lucid xD18:59
daskreechr00t_: Where are you getting the update of ktorrent from/19:18
bjb1959I upgraded to kde 4.4 and everything works great so far. the only issue is dpms. for some reason I have to enter xset -dpms at a command prompt to shut it off even though it is shut off in power settings. any ideas?19:22
Iskorptixwhere I could set default browser ?19:27
geniiHm. 52 seconds is hardly long enough to wait for an answer19:32
travershi19:32
Ike_CoastHullo there19:32
genii!hi | travers19:32
ubottutravers: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!19:32
traversgot 2 go see u19:34
somekoolare KDE 4.4 RC3 packages on their way? usuallly kubuntu is faster than the entire world at packaging KDE.... I'm not used to waiting for so long ;) hehe ..... 4.4.0 has been tagged as well19:39
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dawidHi you lot ;D19:59
titan_arkdamn wireless stopped working again!19:59
dawidxD it always stops20:00
titan_arkwas working fine until last night20:01
titan_arki reboot20:01
titan_arkand now i need to plug in a wire20:01
titan_arkgawd this is irritating20:01
titan_arkDamn, my wireless is not working. was working fine until last night. i reboot and now i need to plug in a wire20:05
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seb_salut ^20:25
seb_^^20:25
titan_arkneed help with knetworkmanager20:31
Peace-titan_ark: ?20:37
Peace-what's up?20:37
Peace-10 seconds and i will go out20:37
Peace-920:37
Peace-xD20:38
Peace-520:38
Peace-020:38
titan_arkPeace-: my wireless is not working. was working fine until last night. i reboot and now i need to plug in a wire20:38
titan_ark:O20:38
Peace-titan_ark: mmm20:38
Peace-titan_ark: could you create a new user ?20:38
Peace-test if you get the same issue?20:39
Peace-if yes that is bad20:39
Peace-if no :D20:39
Peace-enjoy20:39
titan_arkPeace-: okay shall try. could you tell me what is the package name for knetworkmanager20:39
titan_arki cant seem to remove it20:39
titan_arkor install20:40
Peace-titan_ark: anyway if you get the same issue you could think to install wicd20:40
Peace-titan_ark: you have not to remove it20:40
Peace-just try before to create a new user20:40
Peace-then if even with the new user you can't get the stuff working20:40
titan_arkokay20:40
Peace-maybe you could try to reinstall20:40
Peace-knetworkmanager20:40
Peace-ok lets see the package20:40
titan_arksure :) thx20:41
Peace-apt-cache search knetworkmanager20:41
Peace-knm-runtime - KDE NetworkManagement infrastructure runtime files20:41
Peace-network-manager-kde - KDE system tray applet for controlling NetworkManager20:41
titan_arkcool thx Peace-20:42
Peace-titan_ark: you can get my personal  apt- service menu20:42
Peace-on kde apps20:42
titan_arkdint get you?20:43
Peace-http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Apt-servicemenu?content=10808720:43
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Peace-it's not perfect but it works20:43
titan_ark:) cool20:44
titan_arkthx a bunch20:44
Peace-now :) i going out20:45
titan_arkPeace-: :) cya20:45
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titan_ark*reboots*20:45
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theclawhi21:13
theclawhow exactly do I enable dualhead support? system settings shows both screens, but I can't find an option to enable dualhead :/21:13
theclawI can set the size and orientation for both screens, but I can't "drag" the screens on the right side like in gnome21:14
somekooltheclaw: depends on your video card21:14
theclawsomekool: my video card supports xrandr21:15
somekoolnvidia ?21:15
theclawsomekool: no, ATI with opensource drivers - it works in gnome21:15
theclawI just don't know how that system settings GUI is supposed to work :)21:15
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somekoolunder kubuntu 9.10 ? you have twinhead under gnome but not under KDE ?21:16
theclawsomekool: yes, it's (k)ubuntu 9.1021:16
xrandrtheclaw: i thank your video card for supporting me.21:16
theclaw:)21:17
theclawsomekool: yes - I just don't know how to use the KDE GUI ;)21:17
theclawsomekool: I go to system settings -> display and it lists both displays; I however can't enable dualhead21:18
theclawsomekool: I'm pretty sure it would work with xrandr at the command line, but I don't want to do that as this will get overwritten every time possibly21:18
theclawnobody uses dualhead on gnome? :/21:23
theclawerr, on kde21:23
jrdnyquistI do21:24
theclawjrdnyquist: do you use the system settings to configure it?21:24
jrdnyquistwell obviously xorg.conf has to be setup with 2 monitors first21:25
theclawjrdnyquist: it's not an X.org problem!21:25
theclawjrdnyquist: I don't use xorg.conf - just xrandr21:25
theclawjrdnyquist: I have a rather empty xorg.conf ;)21:25
theclawjrdnyquist: I just tried doing it with xrandr manually - it basically works, but it sets the wrong screen as primary21:26
jrdnyquistwell it was effortless for me I jsut ran nvidia-settings and it happend automagically21:26
theclawoh.. okay :/21:26
theclawkinda sad that system settings doesn't seem to be capable of setting up dualhead :(21:26
jrdnyquistsystems settings -> display -> multiple monitors21:27
jrdnyquistnever had to touch it though21:28
theclawjrdnyquist: it says: "This module is only for configuring systems with a single desktop spread across multiple monitors. You do not appear to have this configuration.."21:28
jrdnyquistoh I misunderstood21:29
jrdnyquistI am jsut running a single desktop across two21:29
jrdnyquistyou want two separate X session on each head?21:29
theclawno21:29
theclawI want a single desktop across two displays, and I don't know any way to configure it with KDE21:29
theclawit works *fine* with xrandr at the command line21:29
theclawI'll take a screenshot21:30
jrdnyquistwhat type vid card?21:30
theclawradeon. it's xrandr 1.2 capable21:30
theclawjrdnyquist: http://i.imgur.com/3iCYf.png21:32
theclawjrdnyquist: I want to setup my desktop to span the two displays21:33
theclawjrdnyquist: I thought I could simply drag one screen above the other, but this doesn't work21:33
jrdnyquistwell not something I've had to worry about but are you doing something along the lines of: http://en.opensuse.org/Configuring_graphics_cards/Dual_Head_Mode ?21:33
MHz128how do I change the *root* desktop image? without using 'feh'21:34
teageCan anyone tell me why, everytime i exit the kde menu konqueror opens up. Gives me a message and says "kde.org contacted" whats with that and how do i end it?21:35
theclawjrdnyquist: there's no option for "position" here21:35
jrdnyquistwish I could help man but I'm in nvidia-settings world over here I'd just be googling etc21:37
skypeHi Tortue , Can I get compensated for mine?21:37
theclawjrdnyquist: thanks for your help, thoguh21:38
skype7 weeks in Denver getting severly beaten and druged for trespassing wow seems worth a million to me21:38
skypewhat you all think?21:38
skypepaypal katovic@shaw.ca21:39
macoer what was that?21:39
theclawmeh21:40
somekooltheclaw: try using the gnome GUI to setup dualhead under KDE21:47
neimadhhello21:47
somekooli've heard of some twinhead problems with Kubuntu/KDE and ATI cards21:47
neimadhwhat sort of problems??21:48
theclawsomekool: nope, doesn't work (it's not an ATI card issue)21:48
neimadhi've have a problem with grub. After each update he show me each version of kubuntu21:49
neimadhcould you help me??21:50
neimadhso now i've 3 version of kubuntu in grub (each runs perfectly and it seems they are the same)21:51
somekooltheclaw: what is the issue then ?21:52
mahasamootdo I need alt install for LUKS, or can I use the normal install disk?21:53
theclawsomekool: KDE doesn't allow me to position the screens relative to each other!21:53
theclawsomekool: I want to say something like "screen 0 above screen 1"21:53
somekoolI'm not suprise the KDE GUI does not allow it.21:53
jrdnyquisttheclaw, I'm think you need to add two screen sections in xorg.conf21:53
jrdnyquistmine is bare and stock, other than that21:53
theclawjrdnyquist: no I don't, xrandr supports it without xorg.conf21:53
jrdnyquistthat's all nvidia-settings modified to make it happen for me21:53
jrdnyquisthmm ok21:54
theclawjrdnyquist: yes, but nvidia doesn't use xrandr 1.2 I guess21:54
jrdnyquisthmm ok21:54
theclawjrdnyquist: they use their own configuration interface21:54
jrdnyquistnot familiar with it21:54
theclawsomekool: why aren't you surprised? ;)21:55
theclawI actually thought that's where KDE is better than gnome :-/21:56
somekoolnot having one feature does not mean it aint better21:57
somekoolKDE is far better, but I'm not surprise to hear this one is missing21:58
somekoolthat's it21:58
jrdnyquisttheclaw, I'm sure you've googled to death but did you see this... http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/0121:58
theclawjrdnyquist: yeah I tried that, it works but I'm not able to set up the primary screen21:59
somekoolhave a good weekend21:59
theclawI'll probably try KDE sometimes later again. There are other problems too (graphical glitches in some GUI elements like radio buttons)22:00
jrdnyquistand there's all those K's22:01
theclawI wouldn't mind that ;)22:02
theclaw(the graphical glitches are video driver problems that occur in gnome too, just not as often)22:03
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len__Is KDE 4.4 rc3 going to be released for 9.10?22:20
jerem_slt tlm22:25
jerem_french here?22:25
jc0694has anybody ever had problems on startup having kubuntu recognize an external hard drive? it will recognize it if i unplug and plug in again but it won't see it if already plugged in at startup.  any ideas?22:27
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Daughainjc0694: If you are leaving it always plugged in, you could always mount it in fstab.22:39
jc0694Daughain: thanks for the info... i'm reading up on fstab now... is this something that can be done quickly and easily?22:44
Daughainjc0694: I nwver mounted a US drive, but, once you know the path, it shoudlnt be that hard, I thin it took me a whole ten min the first time I set a drive in fstab.22:44
DaughainUSB.22:45
DaughainI need sleep.22:45
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kebomixhello , any idea about how to install gnome network manager instead of knetworkmaanger and make it default ?22:52
jc0694Daughain: do u have to do this manually by editing the fstab file or can i configure this with a gui?22:56
DaughainManual edit with gedit, or another text editor.22:57
petr_hello22:58
darthanubissound from mutiple sources simultanesously does not work out the bok with kubuntu22:58
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darthanubisanyone have a link to the fix22:58
asdfsaf123tell me please  what is this?   http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/11/07/%23kubuntu.html22:58
darthanubisI think it involves .asoundrc file and its settings22:58
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NewUserhttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/11/07/#kubuntu.html22:59
NewUserwhat is it?22:59
NewUserhow to remove my talk in this list?23:00
kaddi_that is not possible I believe23:01
kaddi_that is why you get the following message when you log in: "This channel is publicly logged. The official Ubuntu logs are at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/"23:01
NewUser(((   there are my IP23:01
NewUserOne way to hide my IP is to go to my provider  and ask him23:02
kaddi_do you have a static IP?23:02
NewUseryes23:02
kaddi_ah23:02
NewUserah ah ((23:03
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kaddi_I'm afraid I don't think there is anything that one can do now. Sorry.23:05
tsimpsonif you want to hide your IP, you should register your nick and ask for a unaffiliated cloak in #freenode23:06
NewUserno-no  I write my IP in some talking   and so...  I input my IP in google and I see link on log of kubuntu...23:08
NewUserand there are my nikname and all my talks23:08
NewUsersomebody ues TOR?   Or this programm should not be used ?23:10
NewUserBecause if I use TOR then I want to hide my IP   and it is strange23:10
jussi01NewUser: gpg tor you can use, but best to ask this on #freenode23:10
tsimpsonwhy do you need to hide your IP so badly?23:11
NewUserno no no !   I am self  write MY IP in one of messages in this chennel23:11
NewUsertor is another question23:11
tsimpsonok, so?23:11
BenPAhelp ... just did an update on 9.10 and can only boot into 2.6.27-16-generic all other img freeze23:13
NewUserI find out that I can not delete IP  from old log of kubuntu... and all history of records located in kubuntu server23:13
tsimpsonI still don't get what the big deal is23:14
e_t_Is there a way to disable the window "snap" feature in the 4.4 RC? Almost every time I click on a title bar, it thinks I want to adjust the window size, but I don't.23:15
NewUserbye23:15
BenPA just did an update on 9.10 and can only boot into 2.6.27-16-generic all other img freeze .... can I or should I add noapic to boot and what is the format?23:18
htcوينكم23:22
ton#ubuntu23:25
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tonhello23:28
kaddi_hi :)23:28
ton^^23:29
tonum....23:29
tonso i was hoping irc would be better for help....23:29
kaddi_how so?23:29
tondoes anyone know where "system tools" is????23:29
toneverywhere on web it says applications>system tools23:29
tonmaybe I'm missing something23:29
kaddi_what is system tools supposed to do? I haven't heard of it23:30
tonits apparently just supposed to be the directory for things like VirtualBox, etc.23:30
tonbut ubuntu 9.04 there's no directory like that...23:31
ton*sigh*23:31
kaddi_ton: i don't have  afolder called system tools either. virtualbox is located in utilities for me23:33
BluesKajton there should be a an icon in the K-menu23:33
tonutilities? K-menu?23:34
tonsorry, noob here...23:34
kaddi_go to k-menu->applications->utilities23:34
ton=_=23:35
toni don't have a clue....23:35
tonwhere would it be on the screen lol?23:35
kaddi_do you see the k-menu?23:35
tonmaybe it's because I'm on plain vanilla ubuntu o_o23:36
kaddi_o.o23:36
tonbc no i dont23:36
kaddi_ah yes23:36
kaddi_that would explain it23:36
tonarg23:36
kaddi_try asking the same quesition in #ubuntu please. I don't have gnome and hence can't help you with that then23:36
tonwhy did konversation take me to kubuntu room anywayz lol....23:36
BluesKajton:  it's called system settings , not tools23:36
tonsystem settings?23:37
BluesKajyes23:37
tonI don't even know how to get to #ubuntu ><23:37
kaddi_in ubuntu as well?23:37
kaddi_ton type "/join #ubuntu" without the ""23:37
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tonokay thanks so much :D23:37
tonhave a real good day ^^23:38
BluesKajoh, that was a noob, din't know the diff between kubuntu and ubuntu...i should have guessed :)23:42
kaddi_he did warn us though :D23:42
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BluesKajkaddi_:  wasn't paying close23:46
BluesKajattn23:46
gyohiï·’<23:47
CalimeroTeknikwahaha23:47
kushou_CalimeroTeknik: ?23:47
kushou_go23:47
CalimeroTeknikbig shot, 38 casualties23:48
gyowoot23:49
kaddithat wsa weird :s23:50
kaddiBluesKaj: i didn't mean to criticize.23:50
BluesKajhmm, konversation just crashed , been trying to avoid that by sticking with karmic...my desktop is now on gnome 10.04, kde 4.4 is broken on my setup23:50
CalimeroTeknikyou're using konversation23:51
CalimeroTeknikit's a bug23:51
kaddiyou're konversation just crashed too?23:51
kaddicause mine did as well. I suspect it's because of a string send then?23:51
BluesKajyes kaddi23:51
gyoyes23:51
gyoim so sorry, but this was fun ^^23:52
kaddiis that already reported? the only report I saw for that was listed as fixed23:52
gyokaddi: #konversation people experienced this bug :-°23:53
kaddioh i c. lol. They're probably aware of it then XD23:53
CalimeroTeknikyes, we tried to explain them "the hard way"23:54
CalimeroTeknikI think they're working on it now x)23:54
gyosooooorrrrry :﷐Ð23:54
BluesKajkaddi:  that was my first konvi crash in several months23:54
kaddiit might actually be my first ever to be honest :o23:55
* kaddi loves konvi23:55
gyoyou can /kickban me if you want :)23:55
jc0694when you use the mount command does it automatically edit fstab?23:55
kaddilet me make a channel, invite you and kickban you from there. :p23:55
kaddijc0694: not that I'm aware of. You need to edit the fstab yourself if you want something mounted on boot, i think23:56
jc0694kaddi: so anything that is mounted using the mount command will be lost when u restart the pc?23:57
kaddijc0694: i think so. yes23:57
jc0694kaddi: but if i actually edit the fstab it's for keeps right?23:57
kaddiit will get mounted on every boot, yes23:57
darthanubis!sound23:59
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP323:59
jc0694kaddi: hmmmmm... i'm trying to mount my external hard drive so that it always loads on startup... currently, if the device is plugged in at startup kubuntu will not set it... i have to manually replug it back in for it to see it.  supossedly/hopefully if i edit the fstab it should always see it and i don't have to replug23:59

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