| kwwii | rickspencer3: hi | 00:10 |
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| rickspencer3 | kwwii, are there icons for me to merge? I thought you mentioned something about it, and seeing new icons seems more fun that what I have to do no ;) | 00:11 |
| kwwii | rickspencer3: yes, I can get some together quickly which are better than the place holders but I cannot do it now (meeting) | 00:20 |
| rickspencer3 | kwwii, no rush AT ALL | 00:22 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm just looking for something to play with ;) | 00:22 |
| kwwii | rickspencer3: ok, I'll get something together nad propose a merge | 00:24 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks kwwii | 00:24 |
| kwwii | rickspencer3: happy to help ;) | 00:24 |
| jono | Nafai, hey | 00:29 |
| jono | hows things going? | 00:29 |
| Nafai | just a sec | 00:29 |
| jono | np | 00:29 |
| Nafai | sorry, was calling out my dinner order :) | 00:33 |
| Nafai | Oh, today's been frustrating (not feeling well)....so I'm working tomorrow. Sorry :( | 00:33 |
| Nafai | but I did figure out more of GObject | 00:34 |
| jcastro | Nafai: hope you feel better | 00:41 |
| Nafai | thanks | 00:41 |
| Nafai | getting used to my new early schedule from a few months of slackering while laid off :) | 00:41 |
| Nafai | are the indicator app libs and such fixed in the repos now? | 00:41 |
| Nafai | libdbusmenu-{gtk0, glib0} are broken packages for me right now | 00:42 |
| jcastro | Nafai: afaik they're working on it | 00:42 |
| jcastro | tedg: can you give us a quick 2 second update? | 00:43 |
| Nafai | ok, just curious :) | 00:43 |
| tedg | jcastro: Nafai: Everything should be working itself out. There shouldn't be any gtk0,glib0 anymore as they're migrated to gtk1, glib1 | 00:46 |
| Nafai | oh good :) | 00:47 |
| tedg | Yeah, there'll be some package rebuilds coming through. Basically the glib0,gtk0 ones can't be on a system with glib1,gtk1 -- so it'll take a little bit. | 00:48 |
| seg|ars | djsiegel: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2198/screenshot1vp.png | 01:17 |
| djsiegel | seg|ars: you are the man | 01:17 |
| djsiegel | wow | 01:17 |
| seg|ars | I'm still tweaking some of the details, but it's a pretty solid first pass | 01:17 |
| djsiegel | that looks awesome | 01:17 |
| seg|ars | thanks | 01:18 |
| djsiegel | you might want to drop that reflection if possible | 01:18 |
| seg|ars | yeah | 01:18 |
| seg|ars | I'm also thinking about making the icons full-size | 01:18 |
| Nafai | wow, that looks nice | 01:18 |
| djsiegel | seg|ars: yeah they could be bigger | 01:21 |
| djsiegel | would be nice | 01:21 |
| djsiegel | when i post, do you have the bubble come from the right? | 01:22 |
| seg|ars | no, but I might be able to do that | 01:22 |
| djsiegel | that send button needs some horizontal padding | 01:22 |
| djsiegel | seg|ars: empathy does that | 01:22 |
| djsiegel | alternating sides for from/to | 01:22 |
| seg|ars | yeah, I see from the template | 01:22 |
| djsiegel | seg|ars: can you talk to TheMuso in #ubuntu-desktop about accessibility? | 01:22 |
| seg|ars | yeah | 01:23 |
| seg|ars | accessibility in what sense? | 01:23 |
| seg|ars | are there specific things that need to be done to the design to accommodate certain accessibility requirements? | 01:23 |
| seg|ars | or is it just about accessibility in webkit in general? | 01:23 |
| kklimonda | seg|ars, why was it decided to render all buttons using webkit (well, at least that's how it felt when I've selected them all using mouse and then managed to get a 404 page). Is gtk not flexible enough? | 01:25 |
| seg|ars | I could achieve the same thing with gtk, but it would take me a few months and it would likely require about ten times as much code | 01:26 |
| seg|ars | custom gtk widgets are almost never worth the effort | 01:27 |
| kklimonda | sad | 01:27 |
| seg|ars | Qt, on the other hand, makes such things trivially easy because it has native CSS theming. | 01:27 |
| seg|ars | I'm hopeful that in a year or so Clutter and Mx will be mature enough to get the job done, at which point I'll probably replace the webkit bits for the UI | 01:28 |
| djsiegel | yeah | 01:28 |
| djsiegel | ok gtg | 01:28 |
| djsiegel | awesome work seg|ars | 01:28 |
| seg|ars | thanks | 01:28 |
| kklimonda | Mx ? | 01:29 |
| seg|ars | it's a widget toolkit for clutter. Intel is funding it | 01:29 |
| seg|ars | updated: http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5489/screenshot3kh.png | 01:43 |
| vish | seg|ars: hi.. i noticed a few things , the icons[replies , inbox] dont change to the user's theme , not even to humanity , they are stuck at gnome icons.. | 04:45 |
| vish | also gwibber now has 2 menu items in the system>prefs, is that intentional? | 04:46 |
| seg|ars | vish: in the previous version, we used to use theme icons for the sidebar, but we had a lot of problems with it | 04:56 |
| seg|ars | some of those icons, like the inbox, aren't actually part of themes. That one comes from evolution, for example | 04:56 |
| seg|ars | we had a mix of static icons like that and we also used theme icons, and the result was a very, very inconsistent looking sidebar | 04:57 |
| seg|ars | another problem is that not all of the themes expose the necessary icons at all of the sizes we use | 04:57 |
| seg|ars | with the current sidebar, where we have three icon sizes, some of the icons from the themes would be either pixelated, or shrunken full-sized svgs, which looked really bad | 04:57 |
| vish | seg|ars: yeah, the old version had scaling problems with those icons , but we have included the icons in Humanity iteslf , it would help being more consistent | 04:58 |
| seg|ars | but humanity isn't necessarily available on other distros | 04:58 |
| vish | ah.. | 04:58 |
| seg|ars | the current behavior works better everywhere people use gwibber | 04:59 |
| vish | seg|ars: k..,. cool | 04:59 |
| vish | seg|ars: was the 2 menu items in sys>orefs intentional? | 04:59 |
| vish | prefs* | 04:59 |
| seg|ars | when I discussed it once before with david, what he wanted was a set of really generic silhouette style icons for inbox/reply/etc that we could ship with gwibber. I'd be open to that, but somebody would have to make those icons | 04:59 |
| seg|ars | no, that's not intentional | 05:00 |
| seg|ars | what menu items do you see there? | 05:00 |
| seg|ars | I didn't even know gwibber puts something in sys>prefs. That must be something kenvandine did | 05:00 |
| vish | seg|ars: Gwibber social accounts and Gwibber social settings | 05:00 |
| seg|ars | oh that's interesting | 05:01 |
| seg|ars | those are two separate dialogs. One is preferences and the other is account settings | 05:01 |
| seg|ars | imo we don't know the settings one in there | 05:01 |
| seg|ars | I'll talk to kenvandine about it and see what he thinks | 05:01 |
| * vish nods | 05:01 | |
| vish | seg|ars: silhoutte style icons as in , similar to the glyph panel icons? | 05:02 |
| seg|ars | yes | 05:02 |
| seg|ars | I think he was specifically envisioning something like tweetie | 05:02 |
| seg|ars | vish: like this: http://theocacao.com/images/content/000603-tweetie-timeline-buddies.png | 05:03 |
| vish | seg|ars: hmm , I already have a few of them somewhere , I'll try to get them done in a couple of weeks , | 05:04 |
| seg|ars | awesome. :-) | 05:04 |
| vish | seg|ars: do you have a bug report open for it? if so you can assign it to me | 05:04 |
| seg|ars | I'll file one. Thanks! | 05:05 |
| vish | np.. | 05:05 |
| Nafai | smithj: I'll be around for part of the day working, so let me know if you have questions I might be able to answer | 17:42 |
| jono | smithj, hey | 19:43 |
| Nafai | jono: Made it back to California? | 19:43 |
| jono | Nafai, back home :-) | 19:43 |
| jono | hows things Nafai? | 19:43 |
| Nafai | pretty good | 19:44 |
| jono | Nafai, what is the current state of progress? | 19:44 |
| Nafai | prolly about 45% on brasero, due to back day yesterday, but back into making progress for a few hours this afternoon | 19:45 |
| Nafai | can't wait to have at least one done :) | 19:45 |
| jono | sweet :) | 19:45 |
| Nafai | I'm going to shoot ken vandine an e-mail here soon (so he can get to it at his leisure, as it is the weekend) with a code question | 19:45 |
| Nafai | style stuff, abstraction in GObject/C seems a little different than I'm used to | 19:46 |
| jono | thanks Nafai, I am keen to get you unblocked on the things you mailed about | 19:46 |
| jono | brb | 19:46 |
| Nafai | me too | 19:46 |
| jono | smithj, ping? | 20:07 |
| Nafai | It's weird how people keep bringing up gnome shell and duplicated effort whenever someone posts about app-indicators (reading comments to jcastro's latest blog post) | 20:28 |
| jono | Nafai, lol, indeed | 21:06 |
| jono | smithj, are you around today? | 21:06 |
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