[00:10] rickspencer3: hi [00:11] kwwii, are there icons for me to merge? I thought you mentioned something about it, and seeing new icons seems more fun that what I have to do no ;) [00:20] rickspencer3: yes, I can get some together quickly which are better than the place holders but I cannot do it now (meeting) [00:22] kwwii, no rush AT ALL [00:22] I'm just looking for something to play with ;) [00:24] rickspencer3: ok, I'll get something together nad propose a merge [00:24] thanks kwwii [00:24] rickspencer3: happy to help ;) [00:29] Nafai, hey [00:29] hows things going? [00:29] just a sec [00:29] np [00:33] sorry, was calling out my dinner order :) [00:33] Oh, today's been frustrating (not feeling well)....so I'm working tomorrow. Sorry :( [00:34] but I did figure out more of GObject [00:41] Nafai: hope you feel better [00:41] thanks [00:41] getting used to my new early schedule from a few months of slackering while laid off :) [00:41] are the indicator app libs and such fixed in the repos now? [00:42] libdbusmenu-{gtk0, glib0} are broken packages for me right now [00:42] Nafai: afaik they're working on it [00:43] tedg: can you give us a quick 2 second update? [00:43] ok, just curious :) [00:46] jcastro: Nafai: Everything should be working itself out. There shouldn't be any gtk0,glib0 anymore as they're migrated to gtk1, glib1 [00:47] oh good :) [00:48] Yeah, there'll be some package rebuilds coming through. Basically the glib0,gtk0 ones can't be on a system with glib1,gtk1 -- so it'll take a little bit. [01:17] djsiegel: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2198/screenshot1vp.png [01:17] seg|ars: you are the man [01:17] wow [01:17] I'm still tweaking some of the details, but it's a pretty solid first pass [01:17] that looks awesome [01:18] thanks [01:18] you might want to drop that reflection if possible [01:18] yeah [01:18] I'm also thinking about making the icons full-size [01:18] wow, that looks nice [01:21] seg|ars: yeah they could be bigger [01:21] would be nice [01:22] when i post, do you have the bubble come from the right? [01:22] no, but I might be able to do that [01:22] that send button needs some horizontal padding [01:22] seg|ars: empathy does that [01:22] alternating sides for from/to [01:22] yeah, I see from the template [01:22] seg|ars: can you talk to TheMuso in #ubuntu-desktop about accessibility? [01:23] yeah [01:23] accessibility in what sense? [01:23] are there specific things that need to be done to the design to accommodate certain accessibility requirements? [01:23] or is it just about accessibility in webkit in general? [01:25] seg|ars, why was it decided to render all buttons using webkit (well, at least that's how it felt when I've selected them all using mouse and then managed to get a 404 page). Is gtk not flexible enough? [01:26] I could achieve the same thing with gtk, but it would take me a few months and it would likely require about ten times as much code [01:27] custom gtk widgets are almost never worth the effort [01:27] sad [01:27] Qt, on the other hand, makes such things trivially easy because it has native CSS theming. [01:28] I'm hopeful that in a year or so Clutter and Mx will be mature enough to get the job done, at which point I'll probably replace the webkit bits for the UI [01:28] yeah [01:28] ok gtg [01:28] awesome work seg|ars [01:28] thanks [01:29] Mx ? [01:29] it's a widget toolkit for clutter. Intel is funding it [01:43] updated: http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5489/screenshot3kh.png [04:45] seg|ars: hi.. i noticed a few things , the icons[replies , inbox] dont change to the user's theme , not even to humanity , they are stuck at gnome icons.. [04:46] also gwibber now has 2 menu items in the system>prefs, is that intentional? [04:56] vish: in the previous version, we used to use theme icons for the sidebar, but we had a lot of problems with it [04:56] some of those icons, like the inbox, aren't actually part of themes. That one comes from evolution, for example [04:57] we had a mix of static icons like that and we also used theme icons, and the result was a very, very inconsistent looking sidebar [04:57] another problem is that not all of the themes expose the necessary icons at all of the sizes we use [04:57] with the current sidebar, where we have three icon sizes, some of the icons from the themes would be either pixelated, or shrunken full-sized svgs, which looked really bad [04:58] seg|ars: yeah, the old version had scaling problems with those icons , but we have included the icons in Humanity iteslf , it would help being more consistent [04:58] but humanity isn't necessarily available on other distros [04:58] ah.. [04:59] the current behavior works better everywhere people use gwibber [04:59] seg|ars: k..,. cool [04:59] seg|ars: was the 2 menu items in sys>orefs intentional? [04:59] prefs* [04:59] when I discussed it once before with david, what he wanted was a set of really generic silhouette style icons for inbox/reply/etc that we could ship with gwibber. I'd be open to that, but somebody would have to make those icons [05:00] no, that's not intentional [05:00] what menu items do you see there? [05:00] I didn't even know gwibber puts something in sys>prefs. That must be something kenvandine did [05:00] seg|ars: Gwibber social accounts and Gwibber social settings [05:01] oh that's interesting [05:01] those are two separate dialogs. One is preferences and the other is account settings [05:01] imo we don't know the settings one in there [05:01] I'll talk to kenvandine about it and see what he thinks [05:01] * vish nods [05:02] seg|ars: silhoutte style icons as in , similar to the glyph panel icons? [05:02] yes [05:02] I think he was specifically envisioning something like tweetie [05:03] vish: like this: http://theocacao.com/images/content/000603-tweetie-timeline-buddies.png [05:04] seg|ars: hmm , I already have a few of them somewhere , I'll try to get them done in a couple of weeks , [05:04] awesome. :-) [05:04] seg|ars: do you have a bug report open for it? if so you can assign it to me [05:05] I'll file one. Thanks! [05:05] np.. [17:42] smithj: I'll be around for part of the day working, so let me know if you have questions I might be able to answer [19:43] smithj, hey [19:43] jono: Made it back to California? [19:43] Nafai, back home :-) [19:43] hows things Nafai? [19:44] pretty good [19:44] Nafai, what is the current state of progress? [19:45] prolly about 45% on brasero, due to back day yesterday, but back into making progress for a few hours this afternoon [19:45] can't wait to have at least one done :) [19:45] sweet :) [19:45] I'm going to shoot ken vandine an e-mail here soon (so he can get to it at his leisure, as it is the weekend) with a code question [19:46] style stuff, abstraction in GObject/C seems a little different than I'm used to [19:46] thanks Nafai, I am keen to get you unblocked on the things you mailed about [19:46] brb [19:46] me too [20:07] smithj, ping? [20:28] It's weird how people keep bringing up gnome shell and duplicated effort whenever someone posts about app-indicators (reading comments to jcastro's latest blog post) [21:06] Nafai, lol, indeed [21:06] smithj, are you around today?