[00:23] back later power peoples redoing power line to house >< [00:44] i tried installing ubuntu lucid amd64 desktop with the daily-live, and ubiquity does a big segfault :) [00:44] at the last summary window [00:45] i registered the syslog and messages log files, in which the segfault appears if someone is interested [00:48] eb 6 01:38:21 ubuntu kernel: [ 500.847290] ubiquity[12571]: segfault at 7f64b29e3840 ip 00007f64c63d1d64 sp 00007fff67769140 error 4 in libglib-2.0.s o.0.2302.0[7f64c6392000+c9000] [01:41] I'm trying to install lucid in a VM, to do a test-run of moving my home server to it in a few months. I'm consistantly getting a failure to install grub- i'm running lilo for now, but i'm wondering if its a known issue, and if i can install grub later [01:42] faileas, i didn't have any trouble installing in VirtualBox, what virt software are you using? [01:42] ZykoticK9: vmware server. [01:42] faileas, well I'm guessing it's an issue in vmware then... good luck man. [01:42] i've had it fail ~4 times, both with scsi and ide. [01:43] eh, its a test rig. Part of the point is i can muck about and not destroy a production system [01:44] i just found it odd that its broken [01:59] Anyone else lose their keyboard repeat [02:01] This is annoying if I checkbox key presses repeat in keyboard settings. I get double letters but no key repeat [02:02] histo: Happened a couple of days back for me; try updating :) [02:02] RAOF: yeah i'm updating now [03:36] I am getting this error when trying to start the gnome-shell any help would be great http://pastebin.com/d673f1a63 [03:39] Spirits-Sight, seems like gnome-shell might require 3d acceleration to work, last message "KeyError: 'server glx extensions'" do you have an nvidia gfx card? [03:39] I have nvidia card don't know for sure which one, its about a year ish old [03:40] Spirits-Sight, have you tried installing the nvidia driver? [03:40] ZykoticK9: what do I do to fix this issue [03:40] its installed as far as I know [03:41] 195.22 is verison [03:41] GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i (GPU 0) [03:42] Spirits-Sight, System / Admin / Hardware Driver - is it show as active? In the list i see green dot on "nvidia_current" but if i highlight it i have a message at bottom "this driver is activated but not currently in use" < but it is??? [03:43] jockey doesn [03:43] doesn't really work right now afair [03:43] check if you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf with nvidia entry [03:43] kklimonda, in Alpha2 release notes says jockey doesn't work -- but an update "sorta" fixed it [03:43] Spirits-Sight, ^ [03:43] OK ZykoticK9 thats strange nothing shows up in the hardware driver list NOthing [03:44] ZykoticK9, hmm - didn't work for me yesterday or maybe the day before [03:45] Spirits-Sight, i'd check the directions at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 in the Known Issues, near the bottom starting with "Jockey (Ubuntu's restricted..." [03:45] * kklimonda is really waiting for 3d support in nouveau.. just enough so we can run compiz :/ [03:46] right now all it support is basic composition and still I find it nicer than nvidia's blob.. [03:46] kklimonda, i know that using the Alpha2 on the 2nd or 3rd it DID actually work for me (i might have been lucky, stars and updates aligned sorta thing) [03:46] kklimonda, what do you mean by "basic composition"? i have compiz and 3d games both running smoothly. [03:47] ZykoticK9, with nouveau? I don't really feel brave enough to install 3d part of the driver [03:47] kklimonda, NO not with nouveau with nvidia binary [03:48] ZykoticK9: OK I just did that now what? [03:49] Spirits-Sight, reboot i'm affraid [03:49] Spirits-Sight, if by "that" you mean sudo nvidia-xconfig then reboot [03:49] kklimonda, good call ;) [03:49] ZykoticK9: I just finished the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current now I am trying to understand that next step [03:50] Spirits-Sight, instructions say "sudo update-alternatives --config gl_conf && sudo ldconfig && sudo nvidia-xconfig" [03:53] ZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/d18e2c393 after I do the update-alternatives ... ? [03:54] Spirits-Sight, you 'might' want to install libvdpau1 then try running that update-alternatives again [03:57] ZykoticK9: same issue / same report [03:59] Spirits-Sight, what if you try "sudo update-alternatives --config /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf" and difference? [03:59] s/and/any [04:00] ZykoticK9: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf [04:00] Spirits-Sight, well, i'm really not sure -- but you might just want to try a reboot [04:00] ok be back [05:36] heyo, will there be an option to dist upgrade from the previous LTS to the next LTS, which is lynx, right? [05:36] just curious [05:45] semitones: Yes. [05:46] RAOF: AWESOME! [07:18] RAOF, are you involved with launchpad bugs? i got a "branch linked" that starts off ~raof/ubuntu/lucid/gnome-desktop-sharp2/fix-lp-516920 is that the same raof? [07:46] ZykoticK9: Yes. [07:46] RAOF, and what is that link? [07:47] A branch which fixes the bug. [07:47] RAOF, ahhh thanks, didn't really seem like a web address :) [07:48] “bzr branch lp:~raof/ubuntu/lucid/gnome-desktop-sharp2/fix-lp-516920” would get you the branch. [07:49] RAOF, oh i'm not a programmer (IN ANY WAY) so the branch is of no use to me. I was just curious what it was/meant. Thanks for clarifying. [07:50] RAOF, and I'd like to thank you for working on fixing bugs -- Lucid is already AMAZING! [07:52] Which reminds me. Time to merge gnome-do-plugins from testing. [08:28] Hello, many function keys aren't working on my Asus Eee 1005HA. should I open one bug or what? [09:04] Damascene: yes, sounds like a good idea. Check it isn't logged already. [09:09] ok [09:09] hi, yesterday I could grep the iso from zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/lucid-alternate-amd64.iso.zsync [09:09] but it seems like today it's away - will it come back at this location ? - and whe will A3 be there ? [09:15] someone here? [09:20] benste: looks like nothing's there today. Don't know why, sorry. [09:20] as1965: :-) thx - grabbed the one from yesterday now - do you know when A3 will be released ? [09:21] in my calendar it's 4th. Feb - but it's not there yet [09:23] feb 25th? See : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [09:41] benste: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-10-04lucid-lynx-release-schedule.html [09:41] what is the problem with launchpad.net? [09:41] well i got boot-logo on nvidia yesterday with plymouth... now its again lost due to update, any idea? [09:43] infecto: that's the iste I used too, which is refering that A3 should have been released 2 days earlier - so where is it - was it postponed ? [09:44] infecto: February 4th, 2010 – Alpha 3 release [09:45] benste: i`m newbe, so please ask some one elese ;) [09:45] as1965: got the wiki page now, this one differs from the info infecto had - which is first Google result, so it looks like it has been postponed [09:56] Looks like the ubuntugeek post is out of date. I'd always go to the official wiki page. [09:58] against which package should I report the function keys problem? [11:26] Does any one here have Asus Eee Pc? === cjohnston is now known as wikipirate [14:15] this is a F**** joke [14:15] $ ubuntu-bug linux [14:15] fails [14:15] on Linux BluBUG 2.6.32-11-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 19 20:38:41 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux [14:15] can't bott -12 [14:16] cause my system locks up everytime [14:16] -11 is low resolution, dkms doesn't build it for nvidia [14:16] BUGabundo, have you tried to remove splash ? [14:16] yes [14:16] changed at grub [14:16] after login [14:16] if I press enter, insert a pass, click a single menu [14:16] BUGabundo, i guess it's time to use nouveau then >:) [14:16] X freezes [14:16] REISUB does nothing [14:16] but it gets logged [14:16] that bad? heh [14:17] and I can't file a bug, cause apport doesn't like -11 kernel [14:17] STUPID THING [14:17] GIVE ME BACK THE CONTROL [14:17] how does ubuntu-bug linux fail with -11 ? [14:17] let me try to file a manual bug [14:17] it should use -12 data [14:17] yes [14:17] I just told you that [14:17] can't use -12 [14:17] system frezes [14:18] * BUGabundo bookmarks https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect [14:19] but 10.04 is in a pretty bad shape recently [14:19] I'm actually afraid to reboot it right now because plymouth was updated and it doesn't have nouveau patches again :/ [14:20] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/518058 [14:20] Ubuntu bug 518058 in linux "[lucid] system freezes after GDM with nvidia and 2.6.32-12and " [Undecided,New] [14:20] adding logs NOW [14:21] As part of the bug reporting process, you'll be asked a series of questions to help provide a more descriptive bug report. Please answer the following questions to the best of your ability. Afterwards, a browser will be opened to finish filing this as a bug in the Launchpad bug tracking system. [14:21] BAH [14:21] gonna fail again [14:21] stuppid apport [14:22] heh? it workde? [14:22] * BUGabundo pushed F5 [14:23] Server error, please contact an administrator. OOPS ID:OOPS-1498EB391 [14:23] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1498EB391 [14:23] not my lucky day, is it ? [14:24] * BUGabundo wishes for a day to be able to upload MORE THEN one log at a time to Launchpad [14:25] yeah - apport-collect does it in a really ugly way [14:26] apw: bug 518058 [14:26] Launchpad bug 518058 in linux "[lucid] system freezes after GDM with nvidia and 2.6.32-12and " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518058 [14:28] wb gnomefreak [14:29] BUGabundo: thanks [14:29] mew [14:30] * BUGabundo hates bug work on weekends.... no dev to help out [14:30] BUGabundo: do you know the command to change login info? i cant recall it [14:30] login info??? [14:30] BUGabundo: to change log in prefferences [14:30] -f [14:30] don't know what you are refering to [14:31] is it the user details app? [14:31] "about me"? [14:31] BUGabundo: looking for a command to change System>Admin>login screen [14:32] $ gnome-about-me ? [14:32] it doesnt work :( seb gave me a command at one time [14:32] ahhh [14:32] BUGabundo: no path above [14:32] the new gdm tool [14:32] BUGabundo: yes [14:32] Login Screen Settings [14:33] * gnomefreak also have to find a theme that doesnt make everything so square [14:33] BUGabundo: yes but that isnt the command ;) [14:33] gdmsetup [14:33] BUGabundo: ill try thanks [14:34] yeah I know. but I have to open it, then pstree it to find the command :D [14:34] and yet it brings up the screen that is broken :( [14:34] WFM [14:34] unlike everything else [14:34] I'm on -11 kernel with low res vesa [14:34] bug 518058 [14:34] Launchpad bug 518058 in linux "[lucid] system freezes after GDM with nvidia and 2.6.32-12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518058 [14:34] need SERIOUS help on that [14:37] it freezes or is very slow? [14:39] total freezes [14:39] not even REISUB helps [14:39] but it gets logged in syslog [14:39] then only big change I did recently , was to install virtualbox [14:39] and probs started soon after that [14:39] time to purge the darn thing [14:43] using ubuntu-bug no package is acpeted as a Ubuntu one - fresh daily install - how can I report bugs now ? [14:45] benste: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect [14:45] or [14:46] benste: https://bugs.launchpad.net/u1 [14:47] BUGabundo: thx - is this normal that no package is accpeted ? [14:47] no idea [14:47] only if removed from archive [14:47] * BUGabundo checks [14:47] $ apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client Installed: 1.1.0-0ubuntu1 [14:47] nope, still there [14:47] ? [14:48] $ apport-cli ubuntuone-client [14:48] seems to work [14:48] apport-cli ? I'm using "ubuntu-bug package" [14:49] should be the same [14:49] but do try apport [14:49] apport works fine [14:49] guess I'll have to file a bug against ubuntu-bug :-) [14:50] cool [14:50] sub me to it [14:50] cause I couldn't file one with kernel either [14:51] k I'll do [14:52] hey guys...just did another fresh install...and as last time...nothing shows up under hardware drivers...and if I install manually the system freezes...any good way to troubleshoot this? [14:53] coz_: I'm just about to report a bug that jockey-gtk doesn't detect my proprietary drivers :-) [14:53] benste, ah ok then it's not just me :) [14:53] BUGabundo: which package hosts ubuntu.bug ? [14:53] - [14:53] then I will just hold off until updates appear... [14:54] coz_: which hardware should it detect for you ? [14:54] may I subscribe you to the bug ? [14:54] benste, n vidia 6600GT [14:55] k [14:55] on the lucid box anyway [14:55] I havent put lucid on this machine yet [14:55] so I havent tested if the older hardware is the issue [14:55] coz_: that's my bug. bug 518058 [14:55] Launchpad bug 518058 in linux "[lucid] system freezes after GDM with nvidia and 2.6.32-12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518058 [14:55] BUGabundo, ah ok [14:56] coz_: what's your LP username ? [14:56] coz [14:56] :-) [14:56] :) [14:56] mail @ yahoo or gmail ? - there are multiple coz [14:56] gmail [14:57] pittsburgh [14:57] cosimo123@ ? [14:57] yep [14:57] err [14:57] what are you guys talking about? [14:57] I can't read the backlog at VESA :( [14:57] BUGabundo: subscribuing him to a jockey gtk bug [14:57] benste, it should be cosimo321 [14:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/518067 [14:58] Ubuntu bug 518067 in jockey "jockey-gtk doesn't detect a geforce7600go to isntall proprietary driver" [Undecided,New] [14:58] yeah [14:58] BUGabundo: which package is Ubuntu-bug in ? [14:58] but that's secondary to have system freezes [14:58] benste: apport [14:58] k [14:58] thx [14:58] so I'm using apport to file a bug against apport :-) ROFL [14:59] !info apport [14:59] apport (source: apport): automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12-0ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 50 kB, installed size 1984 kB [14:59] yeah benste [14:59] did that too [14:59] well its not in apport [14:59] but apport-gtk [14:59] benste: ^^ [14:59] I am just glad I am not the only one... i would had to do a thorough hardware test if so :) [14:59] coz_: I'm glad too [14:59] I was going mad [15:00] :) [15:00] no one else confirming such a serious thing [15:00] coz_: you read my bug? same steps ? [15:00] BUGabundo, i brouight this up the other day with no response other than to try to install the driver manually gut that just froze the system [15:00] guess its time I lose 3D and go with novue [15:01] so is it a nvidia bug ? [15:01] if so, I must reasin my bug [15:01] BUGabundo, well I am guessing so at least from this end it is [15:01] BUGabundo: subscribed you to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/518070 [15:01] Ubuntu bug 518070 in apport "Ubuntu-bug handles every package as "not a ubuntu one" " [Undecided,New] [15:01] he?? [15:01] not what I had in mind [15:02] more like: apport-gtk fails to file bugs, while apport-cli works [15:02] BUGabundo: coz_ - do you participate in http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Hardware/X/ProprietaryDrivers#Installation ? [15:02] benste: on VESA? [15:02] k will change this [15:02] benste: the bug is in apport-gtk not apport [15:02] k ll change this [15:03] benste, I dont think I have participated there let me read that hold on [15:03] coz_: the team started 2 days ago or so :-) [15:04] if you're interested there is a wiki description too [15:04] benste, ah ok i will bookmark this ..yes I think I am interested [15:04] BUGabundo: 'apport-gtk' is a binary package. This bug has been assigned to its source package 'apport' instead. [15:04] ok [15:05] coz_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/ProprietaryDrivers/WeeklyProgram [15:05] benste, thanks :) [15:05] np [15:06] coz_: smart thing - my first test - FAILED - cause of jockey, as you'Re reporting other issues I'm sure I woun't go on installing the nv driver manually :-) [15:06] benste, ok i will read through this [15:11] popey: this is perhaps a better place [15:11] anyone on lucid please run lucid and tell me what you see beside library in the left frame [15:11] it should be either +/- or a small triangle [15:12] popey: ok, can you tell the bug numeber here? [15:13] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/518012 [15:13] Ubuntu bug 518012 in rhythmbox "Inconsistent collapse/expand icon placement" [Undecided,New] [15:13] given I'm using a fresh iso I fail to see how it will be a triangle for anyone running the exact same iso [15:13] beats me too! [15:13] besides which it's kinda irrelavent given the bug is about the position of the icon, not the icon itself [15:13] nigel_nb: your iso is older than mine by a day [15:14] you have yesterdays iso, mine was built at 08:09 this morning (7 hours ago) [15:15] popey: how do I get to know that? [15:15] I mean.. where do I check? [15:15] ls -l the iso image [15:17] popey: My iso is from 2010-01-13 and yours from 2010-02-06 [15:17] finally, nice to have figured that one out [15:17] you should use testdrive :) [15:17] it updates the iso before booting it :) [15:18] I regret not using [15:18] hehe [15:18] ok, thats easily fixed [15:18] anyway, my point being [15:18] now that its not a +/- its consistent anyway [15:18] * nigel_nb bangs head on wall [15:18] I'll confirm it [15:18] sorry... so now, it is inconsistent [15:19] what's inconsistent? [15:19] oh, the icons .. i get you :) [15:20] coz_: stupid question: do you have virtualbox installed? [15:21] BUGabundo, no not on any of my systems sorry [15:21] ok [15:21] BUGabundo, were you considering a connection with the bug? [15:22] I added that, and after it my system went unstable [15:22] ah [15:22] it could have been the rout cause [15:24] BUGabundo: if you dont mind me asking :) ... i was reading your wiki and noticed that folks mentioned your karma.. was wondering how much was your karma ? [15:24] 5k I think [15:24] it droped a lot after they changed LP ratigns [15:24] ah ... :) [15:24] I used to have 27k [15:24] everyone dropped a lot [15:25] where is rhythmbox gone? [15:25] BUGabundo: 27k... i was about to mutter something.. but realized Pici would jump on me ;p [15:25] what? [15:25] tell me ! [15:25] lol [15:25] yeah, back on the days... [15:26] where I would file 5 new bugs per day [15:26] one ANY thing that was in LP [15:26] LP inclusive :D [15:26] lol [15:26] I did a lot of triage too [15:26] consider applying to bug squad [15:26] but never did [15:26] I had more bugs in my head and firefox cache then the bot it self [15:27] BUGabundo: you should there are a lot of bugs still unattended :( [15:27] ppl would come here, start typing about a bug, and I was pointing them to it before they hit Enter [15:27] should apply* [15:27] hehe [15:32] popey: confirmed [15:33] thanks nigel_nb [15:33] popey: np! this is what happens when you dent about it ;) [15:35] Well, here we go, gonna install Lucid today. Any suggestions? [15:35] DSpair: if u have nvidia, Id say pray [15:36] I've got a Radeon 3200 [15:38] oh, well that's much better. the ati drivers are bullet proof [15:39] that's why people love ati so very, very, very much [15:39] eeewww lol [15:40] that was a humorous dig about at just incase no one got it :) [15:40] ati [15:40] bjsnider: I disagree. Under Karmic, I had to disable the Radeon proprietary drivers because they would cause intermittent crashes. [15:41] i'll not stand for this anti-ati talk! [15:41] :) [15:41] * bjsnider throws furniture and has a fit [15:41] out of curiosity..... who else got the big snow on the US east coast here? [15:41] * BUGabundo strains bjsnider to a chair [15:42] I wish that the desktop installer would allow for using LVM2 during install. :( [15:42] coz_: Well, I'm near Louisville, KY; and it wasn't "BIG" snow, but there's quite a lot of ice and snow. [15:42] DSpair, oo I didnt think it was that far south [15:43] DSpair, I am in Pennsylvania here [15:43] coz_: We got about 3 inches of snow on top of 1/2 inch of ice. [15:43] DSpair: alternate cd? [15:43] BUGabundo: I tried that and couldn't get GRUB to install. [15:44] filed a bug» [15:44] ? [15:44] BUGabundo: I was using the Karmic alternate CD. [15:45] But I should still file a bug. [15:45] i'm not sure if it's going to hit here or not. it's sunny right now [15:55] MUAUAUA firefox 3.7a2 came out and broke all my addons :( [16:18] hi guys; would you consider it a bug for amarok to ignore directories or tracks with e.g. O umlaut in the name? [16:21] jorgen, do you mean zero umlauts? don't get it... [16:23] i have a directory: motorhead which has umlaut on the second 'o'... amarok doesnt see this directory in the collection, also it skips individual tracks with these kind of characters in it. [16:24] i figured, if the filesystem can handle these things.. so should amarok / kde ? [16:24] yeah, i think your right: that's a bug [16:24] it's actually kind of funny, i created these OGG's with amarok :-) [16:25] ok [16:25] nice, add this to your report ;) [16:25] i will [16:25] tnx [16:26] no prob [16:33] booting to the logon prompt appears to be broken any help [16:34] robin0800, plz tell us a bit more... [16:35] robin0800, did you try booting from the tty prompt ? [16:39] ok bug reported, now back to the real world :-) [16:39] ciao [16:41] BluesKaj: yes if I do startx from there it works but its not a proper login and no shutdown etc available [16:42] robin0800, yeah , I'lived with that problem for a while after installing kde4.4 RC [16:42] BluesKaj: allso comblains of not finding theme on start up [16:43] BluesKaj: thanks is there a way to shut down session started with startx [16:43] yes , robin0800 , same prob here , I installed gnome to rescue my setup ..managed to kde running again but I don't know what will happen when I reboot :P [16:44] yes robin0800 , sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop [16:45] at the tty prompt [16:45] hey all [16:45] guys, any sollutions available to fix the boot issue? [16:46] all the way cant boot lucid after dist-upgrade from karmic [16:46] BluesKaj: do you have a bug number? [16:46] boot stucks somewhere before spawning getty and gdm [16:47] avb, try booting without splash [16:47] robin0800, no ..sorry [16:48] avb: you can use tty prompt and startx [16:48] BluesKaj: lets hope they fix it soo [16:49] kklimonda: same problem [16:49] avb , there is a way to rescue it , but you have to install gnome first> the upgrade killed the kde login screen [16:49] robin0800: boot stucks somewhere before spawning getty and gdm [16:50] so i cant login [16:50] robin0800: I've got the same issue on my desktop, and the boot stops before ttys or network are up [16:50] guess I'm luck i can get a tty prompt [16:50] BluesKaj: i dont have kde. so thats seems different issue [16:51] yeh ^) [16:51] upstart out to make logs ... [16:51] avb: ctrl alt F1 then start x [16:51] hmmm, strange cuz my gnome install rescued my kde [16:51] first time in 10 years i have no idea how to fix the problem [16:51] thats kinda a windows behavoir [16:52] robin0800: boot stucks somewhere before spawning getty and gdm :) im telling you one more time [16:52] there is no nothing [16:52] just a blinking cursor [16:52] no hotkeys except ctrl-alt-delete works [16:52] bbl ...gotta do some work on the tv room setup , my sat receiver needs attn [16:54] avb, have you tried running a daily livecd? it may be some sort of dist-upgrade issue [16:55]