| seb128_ | chrisccoulson, sure no hurry | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| seb128_ | it's weekend | 00:01 |
| seb128_ | and other people are travelling this weekend | 00:01 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i can't believe how early some people go to bed | 00:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i should just go and wake them up really | 00:01 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 00:01 |
| seb128_ | hehe | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, hey, bzr seems confused about your quidgets merge | 00:02 |
| rickspencer3 | it doesn't seem to think there is anything new to pull or merge, any idea what I am doing wrong? | 00:02 |
| jcastro | itorrey_test: I'm looking forward to seeing what you've come up with! | 00:03 |
| djsiegel1 | ok awesome itorrey | 00:04 |
| itorrey | djsiegel1: jcastro : Ok I've attached the theme to the ticket | 00:08 |
| itorrey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/392488 | 00:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 392488 in hundredpapercuts "Empathy could use an Ubuntu-specific Adium theme" [Low,Triaged] | 00:09 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: sorry got distracted by a nasty njpatel :p | 00:09 |
| itorrey | And am of course at the ready to make any and all fixes | 00:09 |
| djsiegel1 | kenvandine: ^ can you land that? | 00:09 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: oopsss, not right project, fixing it now | 00:09 |
| kenvandine | djsiegel1, yup | 00:10 |
| kenvandine | djsiegel1, but i need to fix empathy first | 00:10 |
| kenvandine | djsiegel1, might be monday | 00:10 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: yeah, it was one line click away, take last one now (https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/bughugger/package/+merge/18732) | 00:10 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, k | 00:10 |
| * njpatel creates plan to kidnap didrocks to fix his builds | 00:10 | |
| * didrocks creates plan to fix upstream :) | 00:11 | |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, njpatel is your #1 customer | 00:13 |
| rickspencer3 | UNE ftw! | 00:14 |
| njpatel | didrocks, your going to wish rickspencer3 didn't say that <muhahaha> | 00:14 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, if it comes down to saving the world from annihilation and fixing njpatel's builds,m would be a touch call | 00:14 |
| didrocks | heh | 00:15 |
| rickspencer3 | fix the builds first, then save the world I suppose | 00:15 |
| rickspencer3 | ;) | 00:15 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: We don't even have a tool in teh standard install to modify those settings | 00:15 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: right, let's create some small steps :) | 00:15 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: (sorry, got caught in a discussion) | 00:15 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti ah, so it's just changing defaults | 00:15 |
| njpatel | lol | 00:16 |
| rickspencer3 | but the golden rule is that if you have defaults, we give you new defaults | 00:16 |
| rickspencer3 | so this only impacts folks who have downloaded that crazy compiz tweaker thingy | 00:16 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: if an user explicitly changed the settings, then it would be quite rude to clobber them | 00:16 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti right | 00:16 |
| rickspencer3 | if you no long have defaults, we don't change to new defaults | 00:17 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: not even mentioning the technical difficulties of changing /home settings during dist-upgrade, or breaking shared /home partitions, etc. | 00:17 |
| pitti | or even networked /home | 00:17 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti all this happens by tweaking compiz settings? | 00:17 |
| pitti | right, it's just new gconf keys, by and large | 00:17 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti but all these technical difficulties you mention? | 00:17 |
| rickspencer3 | that sounds rather dire considering the change | 00:18 |
| rickspencer3 | meh, let's discuss at next team meeting maybe | 00:18 |
| rickspencer3 | or on desktop list | 00:18 |
| jcastro | itorrey: that looks great! | 00:22 |
| jcastro | djsiegel1: should I ping segphault about using that look for gwibber? | 00:23 |
| ronoc | TheMuso will be able to test in a few minutes... | 00:24 |
| TheMuso | ronoc: Ok thanks. | 00:24 |
| djsiegel1 | jcastro: sure | 00:25 |
| djsiegel1 | jcastro: that would be awesome | 00:25 |
| jcastro | on it | 00:25 |
| seb128_ | mvo, hey | 00:30 |
| seb128_ | mvo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneHundredPaperCuts/Spec/495641 | 00:30 |
| seb128_ | mvo, we forgot to do the "Scale Window Title Filter Enabled" bit... | 00:30 |
| seb128_ | do you know where that option is? | 00:30 |
| TheMuso | ronoc: And one other thing. Does the ideapad have an external microphone jack as well? | 00:34 |
| ronoc | TheMuso so 0x1c details: jack-type: line-out | 00:39 |
| ronoc | TheMuso, it exposes on the ui only three check boxes -> hp, out and in which have no effect on the output | 00:40 |
| TheMuso | ronoc: Ok, looking at other code, I am pretty sure I also know what 0x1c is for as well. I dare say the same work is needed for the microphone jack as well, i.e autosensing. That will have to be tested as well however. | 00:40 |
| TheMuso | i.e tested to see whether a patch is needed to fix that. | 00:41 |
| TheMuso | ronoc: thanks. | 00:41 |
| ronoc | TheMuso: Nid 0x1a as a jack-type: mic | 00:43 |
| TheMuso | ronoc: Yeah I thouhgt so. Is there more than one mic nid? | 00:43 |
| ronoc | one sec | 00:43 |
| TheMuso | From the code output, it appeasr there is. It seems I don't need HDA analyser for everything, if I have the codec output, which I do. | 00:44 |
| TheMuso | I am learning more about this all the time as well. | 00:44 |
| ronoc | TheMuso: It also looks like 0x1b is a mic | 00:46 |
| TheMuso | ronoc: Ok, to be safe, I'll code the mic patch switching as well. | 00:46 |
| TheMuso | I can always get that tested on the launchpad bug. | 00:47 |
| ronoc | TheMuso 1a says its internal and 1b says its external | 00:47 |
| TheMuso | ronoc: Right, thats all I need. Thanks again. | 00:47 |
| ronoc | TheMuso cool good stuff | 00:47 |
| ccheney | bryceh: stat -C %u examples.desktop | 00:47 |
| djsiegel1 | itorrey itorrey_test: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2198/screenshot1vp.png | 01:17 |
| itorrey | djsiegel1: Sweet! | 01:18 |
| TheMuso | ronoc: Thanks for your help once again. I have made a good start on the patch, but won't have time to finish it today. I'll get it finished ASAP and post to the bug once I have packages for people to test. | 01:20 |
| === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac | ||
| RAOF | didrocks: I think your last liblauncher upload was broken; you seem to have renamed liblauncher-0.3-dev -> liblauncher-dev, but not renamed the .install file, so the dev package is empty. The package branch doesn't seem to have updated yet, though, so I'm not sure. | 05:55 |
| crimsun | you can always pull the source from LP | 06:06 |
| RAOF | Yah. | 06:13 |
| milanbv | chrisccoulson: great work with the packages! | 10:16 |
| chrisccoulson | hey there milanbv - no worries :) | 10:16 |
| milanbv | but please note that you we don't actually need libauthen-pam-perl | 10:16 |
| milanbv | that's a stupid line that should never have been committed | 10:17 |
| chrisccoulson | really? | 10:17 |
| chrisccoulson | so i can patch it out and it will still work? | 10:17 |
| milanbv | yeah | 10:18 |
| milanbv | what happened is that I had tried this method before going back to chpasswd | 10:18 |
| chrisccoulson | awesome, i'll do that now! | 10:18 |
| milanbv | OK, cool | 10:18 |
| milanbv | anyway I'll make a new release before Monday, for GNOME 2.29.90 | 10:19 |
| === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac | ||
| chrisccoulson | milanbv, uploaded now! | 10:41 |
| milanbv | great! | 10:43 |
| milanbv | don't bother with the bugs, I have a list off-hand, I'm going to close them | 10:44 |
| chrisccoulson | milanbv - no worries about that. i tagged them all in the changelog last night | 10:45 |
| chrisccoulson | so they should all close automatically | 10:45 |
| milanbv | oh, new nice feature | 10:46 |
| milanbv | I didn't realize that was working that way now | 10:47 |
| milanbv | hey, great news: a student contacted me to work on a master class project | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's worked that way for as long as i've been involved with ubuntu | 10:47 |
| milanbv | he will fix bugs in the gst until April | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | cool! | 10:47 |
| milanbv | the sad thing is - I've fixed too much of them :-p | 10:48 |
| milanbv | s/much/many | 10:48 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, yeah, you've fixed quite a few bugs with this release ;) | 10:55 |
| chrisccoulson | it took me a while to populate the changelog | 10:55 |
| chrisccoulson | anyway, i'm going to disappear now :) | 10:55 |
| chrisccoulson | have a good weekend! | 10:55 |
| milanbv | you too | 10:56 |
| milanbv | chrisccoulson: still working? :-p | 15:06 |
| chrisccoulson | hey milanbv | 15:07 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm just doing a few things ;) | 15:07 |
| milanbv | what do you mean by "the presence of it here makes it impossible to apply the profiles"? | 15:07 |
| milanbv | (about the scanner group) | 15:07 |
| chrisccoulson | milanbv - you could only ever select "Custom" | 15:07 |
| milanbv | sounds like a bug to me | 15:08 |
| milanbv | does this group exist in Lucid? | 15:08 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, possibly. but we don't have that groujp anyway | 15:08 |
| milanbv | sure, I'm just willing to fix that properly too | 15:08 |
| chrisccoulson | no, the group is not in lucid. i'm not sure when it got dropped | 15:08 |
| chrisccoulson | tbh, a lot of those groups aren't really used for anything anymore | 15:09 |
| milanbv | so that means a non-existent group can be a problem for profiles | 15:09 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it seems to be the case | 15:09 |
| milanbv | should fix that for other distribs too | 15:09 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, a proper fix would be nice :) | 15:09 |
| milanbv | yeah, there are at least two bugs about those groups | 15:09 |
| milanbv | the general idea is that if a group doesn't exist, we hide it and don't fail | 15:09 |
| milanbv | I'll give it a look | 15:10 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that would be better behaviour | 15:10 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks :) | 15:10 |
| milanbv | BTW, do you have re-enabled services-admin in the new packages? | 15:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i haven't re-enabled it yet. i need to discuss that with the others on monday | 15:10 |
| milanbv | OK | 15:11 |
| milanbv | I'm wondering whether I should add support for upstart jobs | 15:11 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to figure out how to strip the translations from user-profiles.conf now, so that the descriptions can be translated in rosetta | 15:11 |
| milanbv | it's not really useful, since we mostly want to disable services that start unconditionally on start | 15:11 |
| milanbv | most services people want to disable are in /etc/init.d | 15:12 |
| milanbv | anyway, services-admin is now much more user-friendly, and shows services it doesn't know about too | 15:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll do a build with it enabled in a bit and have a look | 15:13 |
| milanbv | good luck with user-profiles.conf - I've had a hard time getting it translated with autotools :-) | 15:13 |
| milanbv | if you find services that should not be shown in the list, tell me - I'm now keeping a list of forbidden services | 15:13 |
| pitti | didrocks: bonojur; breakfast in 20? | 15:41 |
| kklimonda | pitti, any idea why libvirt-bin depends on hal? | 15:41 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, everybody jump on pitti ;) | 15:41 |
| kklimonda | he's really popular guy :) | 15:42 |
| pitti | just got online quickly to check in and sync mail before leaving :) | 15:42 |
| pitti | kklimonda: I haven't checked; would be nice if it would stop doing do, of course | 15:42 |
| * pitti cd ~ | 15:44 | |
| pitti | see you on Monday! | 15:44 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - if you haven't gone already - want me to update gnome-menus? | 15:48 |
| chrisccoulson | (whilst i'm in update-frenzy mode) | 15:48 |
| didrocks | pitti: hey, still around? | 15:58 |
| TheMuso | i/c | 17:03 |
| Nafai | A little annoyed I can't upgrade groundcontrol :( | 17:47 |
| hggdh | heh. I cannot even run it to begin with... | 19:52 |
| Nafai | the last version was broken for me, and I'd like to upgrade to the new version which supposedly fixes my bugs | 19:53 |
| Nafai | but there is a dependency issue currently in Lucid | 19:53 |
| crimsun | what dep issue? | 20:03 |
| Nafai | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 20:05 |
| Nafai | groundcontrol: Depends: python-lazr-restfulclient which is a virtual package. | 20:05 |
| Nafai | Depends: python-lazr-uri which is a virtual package. | 20:05 |
| TheMuso | c | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | jcastro - you seem to be quite familiar with app indicators, so i have a quick question for you | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson | do you know if there is any plan to support tooltips on the status icon? | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson | vish - after responding to your bug about screen blanking when it shouldn't do, i've just had my screen dim when not idle! | 20:58 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder if i can recreate that again :-/ | 20:58 |
| Nafai | chrisccoulson: as I understand it, no. The design idea is to move the information that would be in a tooltip elsewhere | 20:58 |
| chrisccoulson | Nafai - oh, ok. thanks! | 20:58 |
| chrisccoulson | i was just wondering what to do about gpm | 20:58 |
| Nafai | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomStatusMenuDesignGuidelines#What about tooltips? | 20:58 |
| Nafai | For example, with the gnome-typing-monitor, I moved the info that was in tooltip to a menu item | 20:59 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm. for the gpm status icon though, i would consider that to be a regression | 20:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i can currently hover over the icon and see the remaining estimated battery life, without having to open a menu | 20:59 |
| Nafai | I would say mpt is the one to ask about it, he seems to be the one leading up design questions | 21:00 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks:) | 21:01 |
| Nafai | np | 21:01 |
| vish | chrisccoulson: hehe , the crappy thing didnt blank[yet?] after i filed a bug ;) | 21:06 |
| chrisccoulson | vish - is this on battery or ac? | 21:07 |
| vish | ac | 21:07 |
| vish | battery disconnected | 21:07 |
| chrisccoulson | vish - i don't suppose you have idle dimming enabled on AC do you? | 21:08 |
| vish | chrisccoulson: nope | 21:09 |
| chrisccoulson | ah well, never mind ;) | 21:09 |
| chrisccoulson | i was going to ask if you noticed it dim before blanking | 21:09 |
| vish | i just have the put display to sleep when inactive for 5mins | 21:09 |
| chrisccoulson | 5 minutes? | 21:10 |
| chrisccoulson | thats not the default is it? | 21:10 |
| vish | well , thats my setting ;) | 21:10 |
| chrisccoulson | 5 minutes if the default session idle time, which activates the screensaver | 21:10 |
| vish | i have screensaver set for 4mins | 21:10 |
| chrisccoulson | Nafai - did you already start porting transmission to the app indicators? | 22:04 |
| Nafai | nope, I stopped working on it when I started contracting because it wasn't on my immediate list | 22:06 |
| Nafai | I didn't get very far either :) | 22:06 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, that's ok then. someone else just assigned the bug report to themselves. i just wanted to make sure people weren't duplicating work ;) | 22:08 |
| Nafai | nope | 22:08 |
| Nafai | thanks for checking up :) | 22:08 |
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